That is exactly what I ' m implying Insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results . We have gotten the exact same results over and over again . We haven ' t tried UBI , except in experiments , where it has been a huge success . But ok , lets pretend every single social program that has failed to be part of some elaborate journey to the promised utopia . I ' m not sure what you think my position , but it isn ' t this . I ' m not sure whose argument you ' re referring to . Social programs have failed , and utopia is not something we can attain through social programs . From my perspective your mindset hinges on social programs being grouped in a lump , and that there is no such thing as a new social program , just the same old thing rehashed . I think you ' ll need to show how basic income is just like other social programs for this to make sense .