A lot , but it ' s always of a morbid andor sarcastic nature . <| sep |> And PA has no paper trail . Any recount would cost a heck of a lot of money , lawyers , and time . <| sep |> Lol . All of those players have had up and down years their entire careerI would say that isn ' t true . Ariza has never hit 40 % from 3 before his stint with Washington . The only year Webster made 40 % outside Washington , he did it on roughly 33 % less attempts 2 . 9 to 4 . 3 . And Dudley I didn ' t even include him with Ariza and Webster , implying that I don ' t think he ' s as reliant though a good shooter , had 100 % of his 3 s assisted last year . My argument wasn ' t that they ' re incapable NBA players , it was that they were reliant on Wall for efficient offense . And the numbers support this statement . You think Wall is turning Dion Waiters into an efficient player ? Maybe , but that ' s just a hypothetical . That wasn ' t my initial claim though . I argued Kyrie wouldn ' t make Ariza and Webster 40 % from 3 shooters since he isn ' t as good a playmaker . It ' s easier to make the claim that Kyrie wouldn ' t elevate a teammate ' s play to a degree , than making the claim that John Wall would elevate a teammate ' s play I think , based on what we ' ve seen from their careers . Some players are remembered and some players are forgotten . Unfortunately for you , I doubt many people remember who Wall is in 20 years . That was an amazingly clutch play , but does Kyrie get the opportunity to make that shot without LeBron at his side ? The outcome of most stars ' careers really comes down to the competence of their front office . Is the front office able to assemble a good enough supporting cast ? So I don ' t see how the incompetence of the Wizards ' front office probably the worst ownerGM tandem in the league is an indictment on Wall . If he doesn ' t win a title it just means he was not as lucky as Kyrie and other stars . And that ' s more unfortunate for him than for me . Edit If Wall is such a point guard extraordinaire , and hes the leader of their offense , why has his offenses always been so shittyForgot to answer this . I would argue having elite offenses requires better coaching and a better collection of talent . Case in point the 20142015 Warriors whose offense became elite after the hiring of Steve Kerr , a coaching effect . The 20162017 Warriors ' offense is on pace to be even better with Kevin Durant , a talent effect . So it ' d be pretty hard for Wall , who ' s the only AllStar on his team , and who for the majority of his career has had coaches who run outdated , midrangeheavy offenses , to lead his team to an aboveaverage offense . But it ' d be pretty hard for Kyrie too , so it makes no difference to the basis of this argument . The only player capable of that is LeBron , who is an extraordinary talent . You won ' t see many Wizards fans calling Wall a point guard extraordinaire like you exaggerate , because he isn ' t . Being an elite playmaker and extraordinary are two different things .