I don ' t understand how you feel that it plays just like OW since your a pretty high level but everyone has the game they like . I don ' t mind OW but I just don ' t like how it plays . Ult spam , long ass walking , etc I really like dota and fps ' s so maybe that ' s the reason I like paladin ' s better . <| sep |> Christmas is coming early <| sep |> What I took was powdered Borneo leaves , can ' t speak as to the vein color or dose . This was a sample and I eyeballed like half of it 5 g , put it in some cola , drank half of it , realized it was an awful idea and that I shoulda capped it , then was very thankful when it kicked in that I had not drank the full dose . It got too strong at one point for my liking . I ' ve done prescription painkillers in the past , just so you know I have somewhat of a basis of comparison with these experiences . I , however , just got all this Kratom . I ' ve done it maybe 2 x now . The first was Maeng Da powder at like 2 g and it was mildly stimulating , the effect was moderate , not over bearing , and uniquely identifiable as being from the Kratom . The more sedating experience came from the Borneo leaves . Went and looked , RED veinedI am by no means a Kratom expert , but after having done this plant , I feel as if it could have serious implications for treating pain . Whether it could completely replace prescription pain killers , I am not sure , but it DEFINITELY has medical value to certain people .