Awesome , thanks for the response ! It seems that my friend ' s brother talked him out of it because of a lack of upgradability and having to boot windows from an external hard drive . While I still think it will be really hard to findbuild a gaming pc for anywhere near this price point , it seems like he has lost all interest . Thanks again for your reply ! <| sep |> yeah , I ' m in a similar boat , too many mods to try out , base layouts to experiment with , etc . I always stop with a factory as soon as I know how the rest is going to look like , since the actual building is more of a chore , and the design is the true fun part for me . <| sep |> As a 2012 macbook pro owner , theyre pretty nice . Idk about $ 1000 nice , but theyre nice .