Forge works fine for me . Are you running build 13 . 19 . 0 . 2157 ? <| sep |> I ' ll go redeposit in a moment , gotta face a kahuna first lol <| sep |> Savage fam <| sep |> You focused on only the first bit , and ill admit it was a shitty example . Being gay is a mutation not something that can die out , just something that just switch that fails to turn on or off during pregnancy , how ever you want to look at that . It is a flaw in nature . A person that has no desires for the opposite sexIt was mainly just that first bit of the first line . That alone is all you needed to take away from all that . You are fundamentally broken if you don ' t want to fuck the opposite sex . I know it feels like you are being attacked for who you are , I ' m not trying to do that . No need to be so aggressive . Everything said about the DSMII is true though , can ' t argue with that . Being gay was considered a mental disorder until gay people got mad , there were no new facts or breakthroughs that warranted the removal from the list . They did it out of outrage from the gay community . nbspEDIT more thought experiments Just think of yourself as a observer watching nature , remove the human emotional element that you have because it ' s about you . Say you are watching a species , some little critters in nature and one day you see a few members of the species that refuse to mate and are doing things off on their own being gay . They have no desire to participate in the natural cycle . As an outside observer that has been watching them you would think something is wrong with those few members . That aren ' t doing what is normal for them .