A really good portion of those subs are just upvote bots . <| sep |> 1488 ProzentAfD wrde es noch besser treffen . <| sep |> At least on digital we don ' t pay tax . <| sep |> Their is the spia . Get em '<| sep |> S right click <| sep |> The 308 Norma is very close to the 300 Win , both are belted cases . 300 Norma is pretty close too , according to glossy pamphlet . According to it , the difference between 300 Norma shooting the 230 gr Berger VLD with a 0 . 743 BC and 300 Win Mag shooting the 230 gr Berger Tactical with a 0 . 714 BC is 46 FPS at 1600 meters , both are still supersonic , and the subsonic transition range difference is 80 meters . I think one of the troubles of even arguing about this is that the 300 Norma is such a wildcat that it is difficult to get reliable velocity and load data to begin with .