Can you get to the under side ? Sewing would be the best way . <| sep |> Comparing two shits in a toilet now are we ? <| sep |> I just can ' t even imagine that mentality . It ' s sad to me that some people would hear something like that and think you ' re just being cheap . It ' s like they completely miss what the ring is even supposed to represent . I think it ' s a great idea , anyways . I ' d do that as well , but I have more faith in professionals , and the ring making class I took wasn ' t the best , so I ' m kinda put off from bothering with it again . <| sep |> The admins are mostly remote . If you ' re in SF working as an engineer I don ' t want to insult you by telling you what you might already know , but this kind of behavior is EXACTLY what I would expect from a company founded by bay area developers .