I keep on hitting the ' upvote ' button but it just won ' t give more than one upvote . This is the reality of the situation Any pain that the kids suffer now losing this relationship is nothing compared to what they will suffer later in life if the relationship continues . These people will not treat the kids with respect . They will manipulate and use them , the same way they do everyone else . These are people who are willing to intentionally hurt their grandchildren in an attempt to manipulate and punish the kid ' s mother . There is a 100 % chance that having them in the kid ' s life will only cause more pain and suffering . This is a textbook NC situation . <| sep |> We don ' t know this for sure , and we don ' t know if soros is funding it for sure . Best thing to do is not believe either for now and remain vigilant . Don ' t let down guard and assume anything , we fight until trump is in that fukking white house