So much wrong with this comment holy shit . Let ' s start with this part because I think your complete misunderstanding of what this word actually means in this context is the reason the rest of your post is so off base . This shit ' s gonna be long because this attitude this sub has about people who want to do content with other people of similar gear score is super annoying . Trivial content is some you can ' t get anything from . By this definition nearly no new legion content is trivial . Normal mythics can drop legendaries and 895 gear . So by your logic , it ' s only trivial to people who have at least 895 gear in every slot . Obviously this is a shit definition , not sure why you even thought it applied . Trivial content is content that is so easy for me that it is trivial . If regular mythics are trivial for you , you have neither a reason to be there nor to complain . No reason to be there ? Did you miss the part where gear can roll up to 895 ? Why would I not do every single lockout I possibly can every single week for the off chance that something rolls way up for me especially when BiS gear is in these dungeons ? To not do these simple dungeons would be absolutely moronic . Do you think Mythic guilds don ' t still run Heroic EN every fuckin week ? Which version of WoW do you play and in what universe ? I think if you ' re so bored by mythics you shouldn ' t run them . Everyone in this game that takes raiding seriously does boring shit in order to maximize their gear score so they can progress . Do I have fun farming mats ? Fuck no . I still do it because it ' s required so that I can have fun progressing . It ' s WoW . It ' s a grind . That ' s part of it . Regular mythics allow me to kick back during some down time , throw on some music , a TV show , a stream , or a podcast , not use voice and just breeze through some dungeons hoping for a sick roll . How can you stand to waste your time like this , especially because for WQs , Heroics are still more convenient ? Heroics are basically meant for doing WQs . And the AP from a mythic run isn ' t really worth it , if you could threechest mythic 234 at the same time , which you easily could as 880 tank . I think I already covered how it ' s not a waste of time , still baffled that anyone would think that . For your specific pointsI do my daily heroic with my M group before we do our keystones . Why worry about queuing for a specific heroic dungeon to do a WQ when I can knock it out while doing the dungeon on Mythic in the exact same amount of time because I don ' t have to worry about getting a shit group ? AP is always worth it . It ' s free AP sitting there waiting for you to take it . My WQ map stays empty . I don ' t bother with anything under 7 because when I actually have my M regulars on , it ' s not worth it . That ' s not my downtime . That ' s when I ' m focused , grinding hard content and pushing the limits . The concept of down time vs grind time seems lost on you though . So for someone so elitist When did the word elitist come to mean literally nothing ? It ' s the new hipster or something . Please , tell me what is elitist about wanting to do content with people that are the same gear score as me . I ' ll wait . If there ' s a single thing you address in this long ass post I ' m writing for no reason , make it that point . I ' d love to know . Was I an elitist when I was 815 wiping on Helya for 45 min the day it came out ? I mean I don ' t get it . I did all that shit . I spent my hours in regular mythics now I ' m expected to want to do it some more because if I don ' t I ' m elitist ? lmfaoyou ' re making a lot of poor strategic choices . It ' s not the others being unreasonable , it ' s your lack of understanding what the different aspects of the game can do for you . A poor strategic choice is to not do your lockouts every week . Full stop . The fact that you think otherwise is . funny ? weird ? incredibly wrong ? If you ' re running them for AP and WQ you ' re being awfully inefficient for someone so efficient about his runs . You believe that running a Mythic for a WQ is inefficient . You think that queuing for a heroic and having the potential of a group that ' s 815 is more efficient than posting up on LFG , grabbing four 870 players and knocking out not only the WQ , but getting the free AP and potential loot upgrades that lock out every week . If anything more than that single sentence is required to help you grasp how wrong you are then there ' s no hope . So again , it ' s about being productive in your down time . After a long day of grinding M , I want to breeze through some content while I listen to music or watch a streamTV show . I want to kick back and be able to pay half attention to my screen while still dumpstering content and clearing my lockouts . Now let me ask you something . I put in the time to get to where I am . What in the ever living fuck is wrong with me wanting to play with people who ' ve done the same ? People who I know are capable of holding their own and not making things take longer than they need to ? I mean this is the part where someone just says ur an elitist ! !! right ? Was I an elitist when I was 830 doing content with 830 people ? 840 with 840 people ? All the times I ran my Mythic group ' s alts through NH EN ? Is there a quota of low level people I have to cater to every day to not be elitist ? How many 850 players do I have to carry every day to not be elitist ? Is the limit just if X player my item level elitist ?