Yesterday solo still up ? <| sep |> Neither of these are very strong . The type faces in the second one are not only poor choices for this identity , but poor choices for anything . The first mark does look like an icon , which essentially means it ' s not strong enough for an identity . The second could pass as an identity , not a particularly good one , but as noted , for a seeding type company . Go back to the drawing board and figure out what an outdoors company does . Then think about what elements and principles you will need to use to visually communicate that . <| sep |> The freezing starts instantly . It ' s not like you can moveaim freely during those two seconds . <| sep |> Hey Teambuilders . I Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving , I pulled SSJ 3 Gotenks last night and i ' ve been trying to complete the event since then , and i ' ve had no luck . My box is pretty versatile but I don ' t have any of the New Mono Cards so it ' s extremely difficult to beat this . Any advice would be great , Thank you ! My box