I volunteer my tongue as tribute ! <| sep |> Mundane ' s not good anymore , no . I prefer mine raw . You just need the stats to wield it , the rest can go where you like . My 150 build has the required strdex , 50 vgr , 32 adp 105 agi , with 10 att for 1 slot so I can buff it with flame weapon , and the rest into end , which amounts to 53 if I remember right . I really like high stamina on my builds , so santier ' s spear is one of the easiest ways to get some extra points while retaining very high damage . <| sep |> No joke when I first heard about it I just moved along and made that connection . Came as a bit of a surprise later . <| sep |> Spoken like a veteran Ken player <| sep |> works for me <| sep |> I swept the back half of the game with Gyarados after setting up on anything without an electric move in the same way .