Just because of the alcohol they might order at a restaurant ? Most of us don ' t even eat out that often so I would say no , thinking about the grand scheme of things . Edit anyone know any popular brands that are vegan ? I ' ve been ordering offline but it ' s pretty inconvenient . <| sep |> Every time Mitro posts , I get lost in my feels . <| sep |> It took me nearly four years to figure out that my expartner ' s mother was a narcissist . He showed bigtime FLEAS , intermittent narcissist behaviors that I pegged early on as narcissist , but I thought it came from a very authoritarian father . Only recently did I realize that his dad is just an eDad , enabling and enforcing his narcissist mother ' s tantrums and obsessions . Authoritarian still , but not the one in control . My expartner still doesn ' t believe it he NEEDS to believe that his mother can love him , or all the crap he ' s gone through , and continues to go through now for her sake , means nothing he does it to try to let her show that she loves him , but a narcissist cannot love . She loves her control of him , and he can ' t face that . So I ' m not all that surprised that it took you longer to realize , since it ' s a rather harsh truth to have to swallow he ' s 29 and he can ' t face it yet , and it ' s screwing up his life bigtime because he ' s still trying to please her she ' s dying of terminal cancer , and it turns out that ' s the lever she needed to guilt him back under her control . It was rather fulfilling when I met someone else he ' s spoken more truth to than anyone else , and her opinions exactly echoed mine . At first she thought he had been twisted by an overlyauthoritarian father but since she ' s realized it ' s his mother who has all the control and power in the family , and she uses and abuses everyone else . the only thing she was missing was the word narcissist , which she agreed matched exactly . It was nice , if sad , to find my opinion validated by a third party I haven ' t influenced at all , so I know it ' s not just my own bias .