TB is slow with meta and even at max ms suffers from lack of chasing ability . <| sep |> I wasn ' t saying you were being pompous because of what you said specifically regarding his comment . It was the generalizations you made about Civ players and then gamers . <| sep |> To make Florida go away and fix the Electoral College ? Yes please . <| sep |> yep , you ' re right . three 21 s instead of 2 . my bad . either way , the dna issue just causes their bodies to form a bit differently than most . <| sep |> Traditional fighting games are based on lowering the person ' s health with complex moves stringed together with other complex moves . If you want to do anything beyond basic punches and kicks , its a nightmare for anybody who doesnt dedicate time to it . There ' s like a couple dozen special combos in Soul Calibur , and theyre difficult to pull off and even harder to figure out what to combo into . Its very twitchy and very claustrophobic , Street Fighter being face to face smushed up together . Smash is entirely based on movement . The stages are big . There ' s space to breathe . The move are simple . Just directional physical attacks , and then 4 simple special moves that are easy to pull off , and familiar to Nintendo players . There ' s no hard set death . You can be at 180 % and still make it back . Attacks are made to control the other person ' s movement . Attacks are easy to pull off . Movement is fluid . The skill floor is low and the skill ceiling is high . You dont really feel helpless playing against the most basic computer . Compare that to daunting fighting games . High skill floor , very high skill ceiling . Fighting games are much less forgiving . I ' ll see a match between two pro players who are very evenly matched . One will just lock the other in a combo and its over . Smash matches are drawn out more and theres more back and forth and it can get tense . You feel like your losses are fairer and you had more of a chance . Sometimes ill just drop my controller and wait til the match is over with fighting games . Losses in smash can be frustrating for sure , but losses in fighting games are depressingly defeating .