how many bananas <| sep |> Only in systems without selfmanagement market socialism is built on competing selfmanaged firms . No , that isn ' t what the word ' profit ' means . What if I told you , being able to control the profits is the workers receiving the full value of their product . Again , there are no profits if the workers receive the full value of their labor . Profit is the surplus value that is extracted by the capitalist . Without a capitalist , there is no profit . I ' m not a Marxist . I think this is all nonsense . But I at least know what the terms mean . <| sep |> As pretty solid i meant its a nice starterbase tree that can get worked on . I agree with all the points you mentioned tho . <| sep |> She ' s probably the most perfect woman out there .