Didn ' t they buy trams and burn them ? <| sep |> Eh , I think spamming at Rein shields is still better than just hitting everyone once and charging their healers ' ults . <| sep |> She ' s already explained it before the event . Said she wasn ' t going to bother . <| sep |> The key system gives satisfactionSoo . it does the same thing that fancy design does , almost as if the analogy would fit . <| sep |> Ik haalde Sisyphus en Tantalus door elkaar en met mij ging er zo ' n 70 man de mist in . Wat een kwelling <| sep |> Humans aren ' t returning to any original form , just Dagda . I didn ' t say they were ? Easily . Eternal suffering , wars , and genocide are all that YHVH ' s created universe has to offer . This is shown , over and over , and IVA shows just how dubious hope is as a solution to such a hellhole . Wiping the slate clean and ending that barbaric system is a positive . I ' m not sure what game you played , but it actually acts very optimistic about that changing . The endings never presented that as the distinction , and steven never implies any failure of humans to be totally free once you kill him . The wars and genocides happening in short order was implied to be a feature of the fact that even if you kill lucifer and merkabah yhvh is still there and can slowly rebuild his armies to make the same thing happen later on . If you kill him himself it changes . Which is why bonds is implied to be the peace oriented ending . Massacre is not about a greater peace . Its about greater individuality and self reliance , and related low level magic abilities humans would have . From ivas perspective , the white were complaining about how none of ivs endings got rid of yhvh . Nevermind that they claimed to be trying to destroy every world . No , all it said was they ' ll be sending Messiahs , so what ? Humans will be gods by then and the power of observation can easily cancel out such problems . It ' s openended , but definitely in Nanashi ' s favor . Sure if you ignore that flynn and steven and some goddesses also say there ' ll be gods , and the scale of the fight is implied to be much larger than individual messiahs , with casual mention of extremely large amounts of death . Its not an offhand comment from a non story npc you ' re ignoring . You ' re handwaving multiple characters painting the same narrative that intersects specifically because they wanted to let you know that this is a feature . Not only that , but no one ever says that some people in the new world won ' t potentially give power to gods willingly . You are after all told that you need to feed on human attention too now , and so the humans obviously don ' t as a whole reject giving any . You also seem to be ignoring that messiahs bring groups of gods with them .