it is in their financial interest to ensure games are short , with as little RPLions distributed as possible . You ' ll have to explain me that last part . In terms of low rewards , is there any difference between a 15 mn awarding 2000 RP and a 30 mn game awarding 4000 ? In fact , if Gaijin wants to keep rewards low , should they instead make very big maps , such that people waste a lot of time driving to the front and looking for enemies , i . e . not scoring points ? <| sep |> Apparently it makes you welsh . <| sep |> EVE is not casual . Any game you play where a loss is permanent is not casual . EVE teaches you to care about losing your ships , or to make sure you ' re able to replace them fast . But when it goes poof it ' s not coming back . Don ' t ask for casual , that ' s not the kind of place it is . There are plenty of other places where they ' ll be happy to hold your hand and to make sure there ' s a big soft net to catch you when you fall . In EVE they ' ll place a really thick slab of concrete where you ' re going to land and that ' s one half of two , the second one slamming into you as you hit the first bit , sandwichwise . It is not a place for everyone . That ' s the attraction . That means it ' s not going to be WoW any time soon , it also means you get a better class of player , because you have to be a special kind of asshole to go there and say Ok , alright , it sucks . I ' ll do it . I agree that the interface could use some updates , but CCP have been working really hard on exactly that for years . Used to be they got a lot of heat over that , now they say We ' re planning this and that change , we ' ve got early builds of that on SISI . Go check it out , tells us what you like , tell us what you hate , we ' ll make some changes . They ' re doing an awesome job for a gaming community that is easily one of the most mollycoddled gamer communities in existence . There is a ton to learn , there ' s always more to learn . Bitter vets who left 3 years ago and now come back , find themselves in a place that looks familiar but behaves radically different . In EVE you keep studying or you can ' t succeed . I had no idea how to steer the boat on my first undock . It was so surreal . How the fuck do I make it go anywhere ? So cute . The thing that keeps people back , and I have that same tendency , is that it eats a lot of time if you want to do something serious . But then , when you actually do something meaningful , serious news papers the world over write about it . That ' s the difference .