I agreed above that that critfishing build is the exception to the it ' s not imbalanced rule . I ' m sorry if that wasn ' t clear . But doesn ' t the injunction against animals using weapons predate the Hunter class entirely ? Or am I mistaken ? I ' m just arguing that it doesn ' t seem likely that paizo advised against animal weapons for the sake if balance based on just one or two rather unconventional builds from the perspective of a lowtomid system mastery group . I suppose on the other hand paizo doesn ' t have the best track record for recognizing which things are and aren ' t imbalanced in their material . They may have thought weapons for animals were imbalanced in the general case . Whatever . nbd . <| sep |> Woops , yeah I did .