Agreed . You need 4 for Panamax for sure . <| sep |> If this isn ' t sarcasm then you ' re just just a dickhead . Some people might not be able to understand stuff like this . By the sounds of it , you take physics in high school and know the basics and you think you ' re the shit . You sit there and look down on these filthy common peasants who don ' t understand algebra . Maybe some people just don ' t get it but they ' ll be the nicest people you ' ll ever meet . So if anyone actually has this mindset , they ' re the stupid ones . <| sep |> Maybe a wild turkey in captivity will live to 10 but 4 years is very old for one out in the woods <| sep |> Two much pushing , ideally you should have 2 pulling movements for every 1 pushing movement . Drop the arnold press and add rear delt , drop dips and do skullcrushers