About 23 Tbs . I have 3 ip cams . 2 dahua and 1 hikvision . Again depending on your requirements . there are domes , turrets , PTZ as well has 2 mm , 4 mm , 6 mm lens . A good resource is ipcamtalk . com . Good luck . <| sep |> As a vanillacreamsicle , I don ' t like it either . I share those ideals . <| sep |> Reminds me of kids ' modeling ' on toddlers in tiaras . I really wish I had never watched that show . Ruined a perfectly good bird gif for me . Sorry . <| sep |> Sigh . Life in my cage is a dreary , repetitive existence , devoid of purpose or change . This hole in the wall provides contact with another species why ? What can I possibly gain from this superficial interaction ? Still , I guess I otter shake his finger . <| sep |> I ' m going to guess you ' re a young guy . You haven ' t experienced anything like pregnancy before . The physical toll on your body , the health risks as well as the career limitations are just a couple of reasons why a woman doesn ' t want to go through pregnancy . It must seem so simple to you because it ' s not even a possibility . You know what ? Just STFU when it comes to women ' s issues .