THanks will have a look at that too . Yeah I have a bunch of 7 VMs too which use firewalld so that module is going to be sweet for them . <| sep |> How does McAfee punt with such big balls ? <| sep |> Das statistische Bundesamt ist dein Freund . <| sep |> Don ' t have a honedge but could I get a tododile ? it ' s like one of my fav pokemon D <| sep |> Fuckin ' McAfee man . What a goddamn character <| sep |> Forging is harder and takes more tools and gear , but the steel is objectively made worse in the process . It is way more awesome though , and you can make Damascus and cool metal effects . It depends on what you like , but I really suggest starting with stock removal , and moving on if you want . If you are already blacksmithing , go for forging , otherwise I would suggest waiting on that .