Gotta start somewhere . I know that cream can get expensive . <| sep |> This is the kind of thing rkpophelp exists for <| sep |> Yeah , kinda . The game has been out for a while . Since you ' re new , I ' d recommend you look up Trump ' s Teachings on Youtube . <| sep |> uDrBiju understands . thank you . What do you think uxBlamzy ? <| sep |> I here all this screeching about ABA and no recommendations that provide better outcomes . The point is to get people functioning in society with as little assistance as possible . Actually , the original and standard goal of ABA was and is to render children indistinguishable from their peers . This has nothing to do with functioning without assistance and everything with forced normalisation . Every little difference is trained out of them so they hopefully become good little robots . This goes well beyond what they ask of normal children . Nobody hopes for their normal child to be indistinguishable . While functioning with as little assistance as possible is a good goal , that shouldn ' t come at the expense of a person ' s wellbeing . There ' s a reason suicide rates are so atrociously high among autistics . Forced normalisation whether through ABA or good old spanking and bullying really takes a terrible toll on people . A better outcome would be a good balance between independent functioning and personal wellbeing . Where exactly that balance is , is different for everyone . The ABA my kid has gotten isn ' t abusive . Its work though and we kept the hours down because kids need downtime . And ASD kids need lots and lots of downtime . Yeah , they do . I ' m glad you ' re respecting that . Many ABA practitioners and parents don ' t . The buzzword is IBI , intensive behavioural intervention , with emphasis on intensive . Those poor kids don ' t get to be themselves or have a childhood at all . Everything they do is therapy . I honestly think there were some who were abused and not ABA ' d . The original ABA method , as described by Ivar Lovaas , includes electric shock torture . This is mostly abandoned now except at utter hellholes like the Judge Rotenberg Center , but it ' s very much part of the ABA tradition . These people were abused because they were ABA ' d . You really shouldn ' t discount their experiences .