Upvote for cat <| sep |> I wish I didn ' t . You don ' t get the relationship you fantasise about , you get the relationship you make . First off , usually when you bring this kind of thing to a guy it puts him under pressure because he takes it as a personal criticism . The simplest way of dealing with it is to resist it . It takes quite a lot of opening up communication and understanding each other before you can get past that . <| sep |> IRC suits the regulars who use it . We don ' t care for voice and the IRC is much easier to use including the bot stuff and security . We ' ve had this discussions several times and have yet to change off it . If you want to operate a discord server by all means do so but at least a dozen of us probably won ' t ever use it .