All valid points I agree . Although having that Hoplite in just took the Redeemers place in the ' Verse which I ' m sure was their intention . Sure the Redeemer got a lot of shields and stuff , but the Hoplite is tons of armor . redundant systems , long range , awesome weaponry and more and more . And yeah I know , more ships of the same role is great but there isn ' t much about the Redeemer any more that makes it unique in a way that would make one pick it up instead of a Hoplite IMO . On Around the Verse one could even see Paul Dalessi think that ' s his name drive a Grey cat in the cargo space of the Hoplite . Now is that with or without men inside ? Would be freaking cool to have 68 guys along the walls and some light Armour driving out and drawing fire in the drop zone . Don ' t get my wrong , I ' m still having my chips on the Redeemer . I just hope that Foundry 42 makes something more with it . Edit Fixing typos and whatnot