He and camo do the scores now ? <| sep |> Do you guys think that if the AAA crash happens , the ideologues will go away , since they can ' t get any money and groveling from big publishers ? <| sep |> I hear you . We decided to tell them primarily for two reasons 1 Neither of us liked keeping secrets from our parents , and honesty was stressed to us growing up 2 We felt that as the potential grandparents , they had a right to know . In hindsight this reasoning wasn ' t as much valid as it was an attempt to show respect . Bonus reason it was a hard decision for us and we each thought that our parents might be more supportive , which would have helped . <| sep |> Unfortunately , often times , people are not sensible . That ' s why things like brexit and Trump happen . The UK isn ' t really such a fantastic model for liberalism . In a lot of ways they are the worst of the english first world nations , with all their spying and all that , which is about to get worse . Their OTA TV is far superior to what we get . The people downvoting me and upvoting the original idea just think oh great , I ' ll pay a small fee , and I ' ll get commercial free CBC . But they aren ' t realizing that CBC can ' t monitor who is or isn ' t accepting their OTA channels . They could maybe set it up with a password , but the whole point of national federally funded TV , is so that all canadians can have access to neutral information about canada and the world , and have canadian content for free . That ' s a good service . If you make it a pay service , a lot of people won ' t pay , which defeats the purpose . If you make everyone pay , then all you did is raise taxes . That ' s just simple reasoning . Those people are also not doing the math , they don ' t know how much money the advertisers are giving the CBC , if everyone has to pay a fee , it might not be so expensive , but if only the people that want to watch CBC pay for it , then it will get more expensive . They also want to remove the profit incentive for CBC because that turns it into trash , and this is something BBC avoids relatively well . All you have to do is disallow anyone to have any personal advantage over profits at CBC . You make CBC consume all of its own money . You control wages as you would any branch of government , and you don ' t have stocks or dividends , or bonuses , or anything like that , so that the people who work there , work there because they are interested in making television . Because they are interested in making something great , in delivering news , whatever it may be . Rather that having people in suits that are only interested only in profit telling everyone what to do , which would deteriorate the service . That ' s a real and fair concern , but we can still have ads pay for it , and use our taxes elsewhere .