30 is pretty ideal for me <| sep |> By Steve J ' s ghost that is retarded . <| sep |> Doom or Far Cry Primal . Such a tough choice for me . <| sep |> 1 . Their team is super super farmed , with a baraveno on your team you should be looking to end before the game gets to an hour . 2 . Your bara has a terrible build , aghs is a waste of 4200 gold . 3 . Troll is not a great hero . 4 . This is a bad team to be up against as tinker , Mirana can escape you , the rest of the heroes are tanky and rubick null field reduces your damage . If you picked first , don ' t do that as tinker , if you picked later on , don ' t do that against these heroes . It ' s also not a great team for ww given there is a lot of magic burst available and only ckmirana are real rightclickers . ww is a v good counter to ck tho