Oh then you ' re ok lol . Happy thanksgiving buddy <| sep |> Normal loopers or painted ? <| sep |> But you are antinational . It ' s the same thing . Off to the camps now ! <| sep |> I found a shiny cubone randomly while looking for a female Salandit . I like AMarowaks shiny but I wish the flames changed colors . <| sep |> The way capitalists approach socialism is from a perspective of having lived in reality . The reality is that people do not like to give away the stuff they worked really hard to build just because somebody comes along and expresses a desire to use it . This is not something inherent to capitalism . You can observe this behaviour in animals running all the way down the phylogenetic ladder what ' s mine is mine and you have no claim on it . If Karl builds his lemonade stand and Friedrich comes along and asks hey , can I use that when you ' re not ? then Karl could say yeah sure no problem as long as you maintain it . Or , he could say sure , but you have to maintain it and pay me 5 % of your revenue . Now , prima facie which one is he going to choose ? The one where there is no conceivable benefit to himself other than feeling good that other people get lemonade , or the one wher he feels good that other people get lemonade and also he gets money ? Obviously , he ' s going to opt for the money . This is where the dreaded human nature argument comes in , and socialists seem to think they can handwave it as though it ' s even just one argument away simply in virtue of having attached a name to it . They can ' t . And even if Karl does give away his lemonade stand when he ' s not using it , the fact is that he will be less able to reinvest in more lemonade stands . Now , Ludwig who does get 5 % revenue per lemonade sold , will be in a better position than is Karl to make more lemonade stands . Take this simple and obvious scenario , and extrapolate it to a whole economy , and people like Karl are going to be buried under a deluge of people like Ludwig . It ' s not a conspiracy . It ' s not structural inequality or any other piffle like that . It ' s reality . Socialists have to posit unreality to make their ideas workthey have to say that people will be upset at Ludwig and will praise Karl . Thus unreality is the only condition under which socialism will work .