Look it ' s a punching bag ! !<| sep |> Well I did . But I slept though it <| sep |> I ' ve often heard first hand accounts of how dated and depressing places such as this looked as well as parts of what was Soviet Ukraine . So no , IMO it ' s not the photographer ' s MO , this looks like the norm . <| sep |> Something I ' ve always wonderedHow much mass can someone who has been using steroids for years keep if they quit using ? I have seen lots of discussions on how much gains someone can keep after a few cycles but what about say a pro who has been blasting and cruising for years ? Or even say someone like Calum von moger , who isn ' t very heavy compared to some guys but still well past the natty limit . what would they look like if they quit pinning and decided to give up steroids forever ? Would they stay much bigger than lifters who remained natty their whole life ? I ' ve heard that doing steroids can raise your natty limit after you come off but by how much ?