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 Very nice for warlocks if you are far from seeing a Full nemesis Set bonus ( 20 % reduced threat ) . 
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 These gloves with the + 20 shadow power is great for any warlocks dps set . I believe that these gloves are way better than the nemesis gloves just because of the damage they have on them . But if you are going just for the nemesis set bonus then these gloves have no value for you . 
 " Black Flame " 
 FWCogs is obviously a looser . he has nothing better to get out a maths textbook and study the game rather than play it , if a priest is shadow specced he is better at doing dmg u dumb wit . Yes i am a shadow priest btw . 
 Warlock gloves . 
 All you shadow priests how there going on about your dps . Understand the vast majortiy of your dps is coming from our debuffs , not your 15 % shadow debuff . .. 
 So you boost my dps by 15 %? Thanks , honestly , i ' m thankful 
 However my CoS will boost your damage by 15 - 25 %, and my Improved shadowbolt debuff will boost it a futher 20 % ( which during the raid , enough locks are critting that it almost always stays up ) , for a total of 35 - 45 % additional damage . 
 Now lets get this straght , we both can wear it , so lets see who can do the msot damage from it . 
 We , being warlocks , will almost always have bane , increaseing our shadowbolts from 3 seconds to 2 . 5 seconds . Our primary PvE damage spell 
 You , have mindflay and mindblast . 
 We ' ll exclude your dot , and also point out that we have far more of them , and our dots can give us an instant shadow bolt , futher increasing our dps . 
 Now onto who can make the most damage . 
 You have mindblast , its not spamable , and is a 1 . 5 second cast time on a ( with talents ) 5 . 5 second cooldown 
 Shadow damage bonus is calucated at the bonus of cast time / 3 . 5 seconds 
 Thus anything equal to or longer then 3 . 5 seconds receives the full duration , anything less receives a relative reduction in bonus . This works off the base cast time 
 There is also the fact that since your mind - flay leaves a debuff on the target , its considered a binary spell , and thus receives only 1 . 5 seconds damage bonus 
 Your 3 second long Mind - flay will receive an 18 . 4 damage bonus ( Maths : 1 . 5 / 3 . 5 *) 
 Your mindblast will receive 18 . 4 damage bonus 
 Assuming you mind blast and then flay twice , the total damage bonsu you would receive in a repeatable / spamable 7 . 5 second period is 55 . 2 Additional damage ( this is the maximum bonus damage output ) 
 Now lets see what warlocks can do in a 7 . 5 period 
 Shadowbolt with talents is a 2 . 5 second cast , however bonus damage is calucated by the base cast time 
 2 . 5 Second shadowbolt receives 36 . 8 bonus damage 
 A warlock will be able to fire 3 of these bolts off in a 7 . 5 second timeframe 
 Thankfully the burst damage cycle fits in perfectly with a 2 . 5 second shadow bolt , so comparasions will be easy 
 Bonus damage acheaible by a Priest in 7 . 5 seconds : 55 . 2 damage , 63 . 48 in shadow - form 
 Bonus damage acheaible by a Warlock in 7 . 5 seconds : 110 . 4 , 121 . 44 with DM , 126 . 96 with succusbus DS 
 Shadow - Priests are only able to acheave 50 - 57 . 5 % of what a warlock can acheave with the same gear 
 There are two final factors that need factoring . Firstly : : SM / DM / DS vs Shadowform 
 Priests can acheave a 15 % bonus to their shadow - damage by shadow form , warlocks can only acheave 10 % bonus via SM / DM . They can however with talents sacrafice a minion to acheave 15 % shadow - bonus . 
 Now lets take Crit rates into account . 
 Warlocks can crit with ruin , for 200 % normal spell damage . Priests can only crit fot 150 % normal spell damage . 
 Warlocks also aquire a 5 % crit bonus via talents leading to ruin 
 I ' m going to assum a crit rate of 20 % for warlocks , and 15 % crit rate for priests 
 Warlocks bonus damage will be an additional 20 % ( 20 %* 100 % bonus damage ) 
 Priests bonus damage will be an additional 7 . 5 %( 15 %* 50 % bonus damage ) 
 Thus , if we modify the base damage by average crit rates , we get : 
 Bonus damage acheaible by a Priest in 7 . 5 seconds taking average crit bonus ( from their single crit spell , mindblast ) into account : 56 . 58 damage , 65 . 067 in shadow - form 
 Bonus damage acheaible by a Warlock in 7 . 5 seconds : 132 . 4 , 145 . 7 with DM , 152 . 4 with succusbus DS 
 A shadow - formed priest vs a DS Warlock . all factors accounted for , the damage potental of a priest relative to a warlock is 42 . 7 % 
 Two things i care not to look into is Vampiric Embrace , and the fact that in pvp , a warlock can use 3 shadow dots , as opposed to a priest who has one , and since dots get full shadow bonus in 1 . 5 seconds global cooldown , they gain a bonus damage lead of 4 seconds , or 49 additonal damage . But these facts are trivial compared to the big picture . 
 I do belive shadow - priests deserve a shot at it , but frankly , we make a lot more use from it then you . A priest who can ' t see these facts is blind to the truth of the matter . 
 Were the gloves built for warlocks ? No 
 Should priests be allowed to roll on it ? Yes 
 Should priests be allowed to roll equally on it ? Not IMHO , simply because you can ' t make anywhere near as much as a warlock can from this item , and it effects all warlocks , were as this only effects shadow - priests 
 Also if anyone is still reading thsi comment , it ' d be nice to know if you appreated it or disagree with it 
 I ' d appreate it if people marked this , and part 1 up if they valued the content , rather then letting them fade into obscurity 
 I have a mage as main and a shadow priest as alt . My shadow priest has + 350 shadow damage gear , that ' s pretty good i think . I play shadow priest in MC and mage in BWL . 
 In terms of damage dealing shadow priest is the worst effective one compare to mage / lock in end game instance . 
 1 ) mana problem . If you load on all your + damage gear for DPS you will end up with less than 6 k unbuffed mana . If you doing full DPS your mana pool will be empty in less 1 mins but a typical boss fight usually last 5 mins . Unlike mages have mana gem / evocation , warlock convert HP to MP , shadow priest don ' t have a effective way to regen mana . 
 2 ) + damage gear problem . shadow priest recieve the worst bounus from + damage gears . Mind blast is 1 . 5 s cast spell , get 42 % from the total bounus and it has 5 . 5 second cool down . Means you get only 42 % bonus every 7 second . Mind Flayer is 3 second channeled spell , unfortunately it has a slowing effect blizz consider it ' s a binary spell . It only receive 42 % bonus too . 42 % bounus every 3 seconds , better than Mind blast but still very bad . SW : P get full + damage bounus but that ' s every 24 s . While warlock / mage ' s main nuke spell frostbolt / shadowbolt receive 81 % bounus very 2 . 5 second . 
 3 ) crit problem . SW : P and mind flayer can not crit . Mind Blast can crit but only deal 1 . 5 times damage . Warlock / mage all have talent doing 2 times damge when crit , not to mention warlock ' s insane crit with CoS . Crit make significant different in terms of DPS . 
 4 ) range problem . mind flayer is only 20 yards . In some enconters you need to stay max range , it ' stoo risky to stay in 20 yards for casters . Mind blast has 30 yards range but it has cool down and very mana consuming . This will gimp your DPS too . 
 Not saying shadow priset is useless in end game instance ( I am still playing shadow priest in regular MC runs ) , 15 % bounus to warlock ' s damage and doing considerable damage is a big contribution to raid . ( Vampiric Embrace dosen ' t make much any difference in 40 man raid ) 
 That ' s all in theroy tho . Practically shadow priest sure can out damage any other DPS class that ' s coz other DPSers are AFKers / slackers / noobs 
 And yes I will definately bid this glove for my shadow priest coz I hate locks they outbid my mage on so many things : ( 
 You guys obviously are just focusing on points to just help one side 
 I try to offer concise infomation , the conclusions are left to the reader , but one fact remains uncontested over these gloves , is that they will enhance a warlocks dps more then they will a priests ( by a margin of upto about 234 %) 
 All you guys are stating are ONE spell from both sides . Its usally Shadowbolt vs Mindblast and Mindflay , simply because those are the dps spells cast in instances 
 Priests gain a huge bonus from + damage / healing since mind flay is their primary spell and it gains 100 % of the damage 
 Unless i ' m mistaken , the damage bonus is on a 3 . 5 second window . So mind flay only receives 3 seconds of the 3 . 5 second bonus or 86 % 
 Point of interest however is that a warlock , given the same 3 second window , will have acheaved greater damage bonus because of talents that lower the cast time of the shadowbolt while retaining the shadow - bonus . Also mind - flay can not crit . 
 once you have reached max shadow weaving you can start throwing out mind blasts to get the full 15 % damage boost 
 This effects not only your damage , but other warlocks damage as well , just like CoS effects your damage . 
 In the case of these gloves , CoS and Shadow - weaving are outside the arguement because both sides already use both damage enhancements . You can ' t justify these as priest gloves because of your debuff which warlocks can and always will use , this is also vice versa with warlocks and their CoS . 
 but in the end priests are inflicting layered damage at a constant every second , since mind flay is so strong and just ticks away life warlocks will fall behind in damage on end game bosses since they require lots of cast time . 
 1 . Warlocks have erratic damage , but given long engagements , it can be looked at as an average damage . MC and BWL minions don ' t die in seconds , they take 30 seconds or longer to kill . Thats more then enough to dismiss constant damage , as sustained dps is what i ' m talking about , and sustained dps is what my lock does . 
 2 . Mindflay has a 3 second channel time , it is not instant 
 Shadowbolt has a 2 . 5 ( talent enhanced ) second cast time . 
 Shadowbolt does more damage and crits ( with talents for 200 % damage ) . Mindflay does not . 
 That entire point is nothing but babble . Futhermore , what can a shadow - priest do when they run out of mana . My warlock just life - taps his mana back and goes back into action . Will you wand ? I ' m more of the opinion that warlocks will surpass shadow - priests in damage , as we can sustain ours indefenility , where as a priest cannot 
 Regardless this item is great for both classesAbsoutly Correct . 
 but I still think warlocks should be more focused on their set bonuses than just to have this piece and substitute it later when they get their set pieces . At least in my case , that would be my endgame pve gear . Nothing would replace it . But thats just me . Most other locks arn ' t as obsessive over damage - gear as i am 
 . .. a job ? Are you people ( the whiners ) so engrossed in this video game that you consider it a vocational choice ? Is THAT your reason for attempting to deny equipment to others ? 
 Yes , I ' m a shadow priest . The only reason I don ' t have these gloves yet is because I didn ' t have the DKP when they dropped , or wasn ' t at the raid . Yes , my guild has spanked Nefarian like the proverbial red - headed stepchild . Yes , I was there for the majority of those kills , and I was a contributor to their success . 
 Funny thing is , the warlocks in my guild don ' t load themselves with damage gear like this . Not in instances , at least . Know why ? 
 THEY DRAW AGGRO AND DIE . KER - FRICKIN '- SPLAT . Even a MD ' lock , with imp , gets him / herself crunched with gear like this . It simply draws too much threat . Therefore , they roll on items of this sort for PvP / solo play . Priests of - any - sort need all the stamina they can get in PvP , and + damage is desperately sought - after . 
 The only real reason to deny a particular class an upgrade of this sort is to boost your own ego . Well uh , your ego can cram it . I ' ll be melting faces , enjoying the - game -, while you rage against others who ' d just like to do the same . 
 Have fun , and stop trying to destroy the fun of others . None of us are paying $ 15 a month to do a job . : / 
 I play in a guild with FRIENDS , I ' m sure that ' s hard to understand , but let me explain . That means if Ebony Flame Gloves drop then regardless of whether or not I ' m a Shadow Priest ( which I am ) or a Warlock , as long as I have the dkp , I ' ll be allowed to bid . Happened with Sash of Whispered Secrets and with Ring of Spell Power . The Warlocks let me bid , and congratulated me when I won too . I would do likewise . 
 I play a Warlock and I would have no problems having a Shadow Priest bid DKP on these gloves . Having a Shadow Priest in the raid gives us Warlock ' s 15 % extra damage , not to mention the fact that the Priest themselves can do comparable damage to us with endgame gear - and even better threat reduction . It seems that the sole reason people feel Priests should be excluded from bidding is greed . It is amusing to see people throw phrases around like ' a Priest ' s role ' etc , when clearly not realizing the huge benefit a Shadow Priest gives to us Warlocks . 
 As a warlock , I love shadow priests . Their shadow weaving is my best friend , EVER . And I ' m sure they love our curse of shadow . If you have a shadow priest that ' s been raiding long enough to get these gloves , there ' s no reason on EARTH they should not be allowed to bid over a lock . Assuming they have the highest DKP , they should get the gloves . It ' s simple , really . 
 Oh hey , I have a question about an earlier post from a lock . How do you get 3 k crits all the time when your base line shadow bolts are 900 ? 
 To be honest , WTF cares who gets priority in this and who doesn ' t . .. 
 In a perfectly set up raid - group this would go to the shadow - damage casters , without giving a damn if it is a priest or a warlock . 
 If it ' s a DKP - System , may the one with the most points get it . 
 If you are playing in a raid with friends , it ' s all about talking about drops with each other . .. 
 So generally in the end , all the ' best item ' discussions are pure bull &*!@, and nothing more . 
 These are nice gloves for every " Shadow Damage Caster " 
 in response to your q " how do you get 3 k crits all the time when your base line SB is 900 ? " 
 Im guessing that hes exaggerating a little , and he gets them occasionally only , but its quite possible he gets them on a regular basis . 
 first crit - 1800 , 2 nd crit ( with shadow vulnerability ) circa . 2200 . add CoS and priest debuff your getting up there easily , esp if hes using gear like sageblade that lowers target resistances . 
 lastly , entirely possible that SB could be landing for base of over 900 , i know that raid buffed / potted my lock base hits around 1 k , and thats running only 2 epics so far , just with gear optimised to + dmg . Add the debuffs , slap on a flask of power , get you ' re pumping out the crazy 4 K plus crits locks are so famous for : P 
 First off , I ' m specced Disc / Holy . So you know I ' m not a shadow priest . 
 Priests will roll on this . Personally , I think that at least the first pair of these should go to a lock . They ' d be great for a priest sure but get them later . If we ' re needed for healing we have that option and can always get another pair of healing gloves to help out our heals . 
 Priests in the expansion will be able to regen mana more effeciently . So getting damage gear now will be necessary for the future , too . If you toss the shadow priest in a group of locks or other casters later on . He ' ll be able to regen your mana too . The more damage he deals , the more mana you shall get . Priests will also get a " pet " so to speak which will allow the priest to gain mana for each attack the fiend lays down . While not great , however coupled with the priests ability to regen mana in the first place ( that ' s pretty darn good ) and the 41 point talent the shadow priest has available , all this math will mean nothing . 
 If there ' s already a priest in shadowform in your BWL raid . Your guild has no problems with it and most likely enjoys having him / her around in the first place . Let bygones be bygones and the priest to have a shot at these as well as any warlock . 
 Priests are already bidding against druids and paladins for healing gear . Why should locks be the only class to have a spell type of their own ? They shoudln ' t and they don ' t . Happy raiding ! 
 But what are the blue chest / robes the undead priest is wearing in the picture above ? 
 *!@#$%^ wEapON ! 11 ! 
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 really guys this post makes just as much sense as the arguement . i have lost " ints " on crystal web robes 2 times due to priest , what can i say they had cap dkp . but you dont see me saying anything . come on guys think about it . they will drop again , deal 
 Just got these for my priest last night . : ) 
 Very nice shadowpriest / warlock gloves if you ask me , don ' t really see why warlock ' s should get priority over priests for this , since + damage gear for priests is a lot harder to find then + damage gear for warlocks . And yes , warlocks do more damage , but a good raid group has both shadowpriests and warlocks . That ' s WoW , you need all classes to be succesfull , so yeah BOTH PRIEST AND WARLOCK GEAR . End of . . 
 yeah im going aswell for full + shadow dmg instead of all like 15 dmg 1 crit on nemesis 
 Dropped from Ebonroc . Best gloves for a warlock going for + shadow / dmg . 
 150 dps drain life here i come : ) 
 Equally good for both warlock and priest , I don ' t see how it could be better for one over the other . If you are a holy / disc priest , You should be passing . Same for if you are a Destro lock , and there is a shadow priest around . Equally good for both classes no arguing . 
 Man there ' s so much warlock dps *!@# in BWL . Makes me scared cause the warlocks in my guild always pull aggro first . 
 win win win . . got them today : D woha 
 Edited , Wed Sep 14 20 : 43 : 53 2005 
 yes these are good for shadow priests but not meny priests that do bwl are shadow 
 These and a 20 + shadowdamage enchant would be sweet as candy for my warlock ! 
 right now i got 520 magic / shadow dmg with talisman . .. that would make me extremely happy ! 
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 enchanted + 20 shadow - dmg 
 Awesome raiding / affliction warlock gloves . : D 
 A possible + 63 shadow damage from a glove slot . 
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 After I got these , my Nemesis became riding gloves . 
 Edited , Sat Dec 31 14 : 01 : 41 2005 
 Got these yesterday since the other locks were horny for nemesis , lucky me . These are better : ) 
 I must have these for my shadow priest ! For pure damage , I don ' t think there ' s anything better to be found . 
 I would love a priest after bidding on this : / 
 Sorry . . double post . Crappy system : ) 
 Edited , Fri Aug 26 08 : 54 : 29 2005 
 Nothing in the game compares to these gloves . They ' re really just amazing . Got them for my warlock just a bit ago , second person on the server to get them : ) 
 got em yesterday , nice priest gloves : ) 
 These babies dropped right onto my hands just a few minutes ago . They are indeed every dmg - warlocks wet dream : ) 
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