This seems a bit similar though . <| sep |> Have one . it ' s not superduper stiff . It ' s about the lower limit in stiffness for acceptable in fullsize OWB carry . That said , it is still within the limit . Very comfy and quality hardware . <| sep |> Slip 40 cc 3 s for lime ? <| sep |> House , student loans , car , credit card . <| sep |> Are you kidding ? So you ' re defining a person based on their selfdependency and cognitive ability . They ' re not kidding . Personhood as it ' s used for abortion rights is a mix of a few things Philosophy , science , and Law . Philosophy , where the concept of personhood came from defines a person as any humanor nonhuman who can possesses continuous consciousness and is capable of framing representations about the world , formulating plans and acting on them . Essentially cognitive ability . However , we don ' t use only that . We also use the philosophy of ethics in our determination of personhood when concerning abortion . Which means we consider the developing babies capacity to suffer as well . Science helps us test when a developing baby ' s neurological pathways are active . If a reaction to stimuli are due to actually feeling or just the neurological reflexes . Law is of course what governs what we can and cannot do . It has to find a middle ground to what most people believe and what science knows as fact . Just because science proves a thing , doesn ' t mean everybody in the population will believe it , or even be able to understand what was proven without going through years of school . So a middle ground needs to be put in place . So your example of a 16 year old who is brain deada Vegetable not being a person is actually a good one . Scientifically they would not be a person . But this is much harder for the average person to swallow so I think in many places they would still be legally a person . I mean , many people still believe in the concept of a soul , which is not factored in personhood at all . Or that life begins at conception , which is wrong , it doesn ' t begin at conception . Human life is a continuum , it only ends . That ' s essentially why a fetus is not a person . It simply doesn ' t fit the definition .