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 GnarGnar 의 댓글 
 This item is used in a variety of crafted epic armor pieces and weapons at level 70 . The items can be found at : 
 CrazedWarrior 의 댓글 
 Primal might is used in many differnt trades , they are Alchemy , Blacksmithing , Enchanting , Leatherworking , and tailoring . 
 The recipe to make Primal Might is called " Recipe : Transmute Primal Might " and requires the following : 
 1 x Primal Earth 
 1 x Primal Water 
 1 x Primal Air 
 1 x Primal Fire 
 1 x Primal Mana 
 This item will probably be the best seller in the AH for a long while once TBC goes live since so many top level recipes need it . 
 It seems like Primal Air is the hardest ingredient to find , so be prepared to use your transmutes to make the Airs and then the Mights . 
 Lakestone 의 댓글 
 None of them are hard to get , except one , if you ' re non - arcane specced mage : ). 
 ultigus 의 댓글 
 Actually everyone of the mats is easy to comeby . Each one is a drop for mobs all over outland . Primal earth , water , and air are all in nagrand . ... just need to kill the elementals . .. Fire i found in several places and in mining . ... Mana is a little difficult at lower levels but at level 66 in netherstorm killing phase hunters and mana wraiths have a good drop rate 
 QuadeHale 의 댓글 
 Does anyone else get the Captain Planet reference ? " Earth ! Fire ! Wind ! Water ! Heart ! ( aka . Mana ! )" GO PRIMAL MIGHT ! . .. guess not 
 ( From Robot Chicken ) : " Save the environment or I ' ll cut your **** ing head off ! !" 
 BuzzHonkyFresh 의 댓글 
 GO TRANSMUTE ! 
 With your powers combined I am PRIMAL MIGHT ! 
 Gorfob 의 댓글 
 Earth , Water , Air and fire Fire are found in Nagrand at the Elemental Plateau above the Throne of Elements , where fast spawning level 70 elemental ' s can be found . 
 Mana is from mobs in Netherstorm like th fishes and Nether Rays 
 In an hour you can generally make at least enough matts for Earth , Fire , Air , Water primal ' s if its quite on the plateau . Take you a little longer to get the Primal Mana because the mob ' s are spread out in Netherstorm . 
 That being said it wasn ' t to painful to farm the 40 of each mote I needed for my specialisation . 
 madi 의 댓글 
 Motes of fire are not that easy to come by . " Several places " i found as a useless reference , and it has not dropped off a single mob for me so far . I ' ve seen it drop in mining , though . 
 Mana - every non - human and non - elemental mob in Netherstorm drops it 
 Earth - elementals in Netherstorm 
 Air from air elementals in Nagrand 
 Water - all water creatures in Nagrand 
 It ' s a bit harsh ( time - consuming and expensive ) to go with a not - so - well dressed char lvl 68 to farm for lvl 70 elementals at the Throne of Elements ( especially as a rogue with mobs immune to poison ) , so I guess it should be more advisable to buy the primal fire in AH . .... 
 Alchemists , who craft this , may have decided to persue the transmute specialty . This yields the slight possibility to create more than one primal ( up to 5 ) even though it just uses the mats for one . This multiple result is reflected in the group log , and as such is visible to all group members . 
 When dealing with an Alchemist and buying this transmute , it is generally expected that since he has taken extra time and money to pursue this specialization , that the extra yielded primals will belong to him , and that whoever provided the mats and paid for the transmute is only owed what they paid for : one primal might . 
 If you feel otherwise , it is recommended that you discuss the possibility of a transmute yielding multiple primals , and who should get them . It can ’ t hurt to ask , and you may be able to pay a premium for the transmute in return for the extra primal if it drops . 
 ( aside from the fact that there are better places to post comments on motes of fire . ..) 
 This is not the best place to grind . The elemental plateau , even with up to a half - dozen competitiors , has a better drop - rate , has no imps to get in the way , and has a MUCH shorter corpse run if you die . 
 Yes , it requires a flying mount , but if you ' ve got it , this is the place to go . 
 Hightech 의 댓글 
 I sell my Primal Might transmutes for 25 G . 
 Primal Mights varies from 80 G to 200 G each . 
 US Jaedenar Horde 
 Morvran 의 댓글 
 There ' s another option : 
 ( As the alchemist ) Tell the buyer that , for Xg you will give him 1 Primal Might . You keep any extras that may appear . Or for X + X / 2 ( or some equation - you can decide ) he can have any additional primals if they are crafted . BUT . .. he has to pay up front . So , here ' s a scenario ( prices may not be correct ) : 
 Alchemist : I will do the transmute for 10 g . You will get 1 primal might . If any additional ones are created , I get to keep them . BUT . .. if you want , pay 15 g up front , and if any additional primals are created , you have them . 
 Basically , it ' s a gamble for the buyer . They can get a deal , or they can really lose out . It was suggested in a forum I was reading and it ' s worked for me so far - people have been pretty agreeable . 
 Phorenn 의 댓글 
 Has anybody kept track of their Transmute Specialty success ? 
 Since specializing , I have transmuted 8 Primal Mights and have never gotten more than one . 
 thadigitaldj 의 댓글 
 I have done between 10 - 15 primal might transmutes , and have had a double - might proc twice , for anyone that is interested . 
 Also , I was just doing a might transmute and my character cheered which was followed by this emote / text : 
 DISCOVERY ! * your toons name * has discovered how to transmute primal mana to fire . 
 You have learned how to create a new item : Transmute : Primal Mana to Fire . 
 ferregammo 의 댓글 
 i found it pretty dissapointing to make this as the mats themselves sell for about 105 g and the primal might on lightnings blade only goes for 90 - 100 g in the ah unless i get extras when i make it im not sure its even worth it 
 Adimax 의 댓글 
 How accurate is that buyout price for everyone ? On Steamwheedle I ' m not seeing them go over 80 - 90 ish gold . 
 erol 의 댓글 
 120 - 130 g + on stormscale 
 dawa 의 댓글 
 Around 100 g on Stonemaul 
 Sonicblast 의 댓글 
 I have a guild mate who does the transmute for 10 - 20 Gold and tells the person that if any extras are created , he gets to keep them . However , if there is an extra , as a service to the buyer , the transmute is free . 
 He never seems to have any trouble getting transmute customers . 
 Caelir 의 댓글 
 If an additional primal is created the transmute fee will be returned , or give the guy who provided the mats with a discount , either way it ' s something to look forward to ^^ 
 swelt 의 댓글 
 This is an excellent example of social engineering or ' scamming '. If you do not group with the alchemist , he can quite easily deny that an extra product was produced but still charge the uplifted rate . 
 Moral of the story - do not agree to these terms unless you can group with the alchemist . 
 altk 1 ll 3 r 의 댓글 
 quick question , 4 the mastery proc , do u need to have skill 375 ? ?? cuz i have done MANY Xmutes a none have proc yet , i have 371 of skill atm 
 Squirldude 의 댓글 
 btw , you can ' t hide that you made 2 from a smart person . .. it shows up in the combat log . .. : P 
 Afakaz 의 댓글 
 It only shows up in the combat log if you ' re partied . 
 thx 4 at least answer the questiong instead put it a low rating ( sarcasm ) , im just want to know that , many of my friends have told me that u the proc alot , they just dont remember if they start to get it on 375 of skill 
 thernody 의 댓글 
 try to typ you ' r question with decend english . don ' t use 4 instead of for . it makes it harder too read . 
 answer to question : from what i have heared i can proc on any skill level . 
 Syladen 의 댓글 
 Once you become a Transmutation Master , you have a possibility of getting the proc anytime you transmute something . Skill level does not matter . 
 Zyzio 의 댓글 
 Well , I do believe that having the transmutation spec gives alchemist right to choose whether they want to give extra primal mights or not . 
 Of course there are many ways to discuss first , get in a deal etc . 
 Mushki 의 댓글 
 I farm the mats for primal mights , usually two at a time . Then i go to a city , and ask in trade channel for a Transmute spec ' d alchemist . On my server most people charge 5 g , and upon asking for a transmute spec , i make sure that i will get anything tht procs , and i am in party so i can see it . So it has to be a agreement before any trading , and make sure you both understand what will happen to the procs . 
 Fromundah 의 댓글 
 I was able to successfully grind Primal Air , Water , and Earth for this within 2 hours in Nagrand . 
 Granted , I was level 70 at the time and able to fly above the beasts to just find the Air , Water , and Earth elementals roaming around to kill ( which I strongly suggest doing , it saves time to just fly over other beasts ) . However , anyone level 65 and above should have no problem grinding these 3 Primals within 3 - 4 hours * max *. After that it ' s just a hop skip and jump to the other 2 Primals to get Might . 
 Also , I should note that now that all elementals have the chance to drop their respective Essences , grinding motes for primals has become even more lucrative , with each essence selling ( At least on Dentarg ) for 2 - 5 g a piece . This is free gold ! They drop relatively often and is just another reason to take just a couple hours and grind up some primals . 
 FatBot 의 댓글 
 ok so an alchemist gets the fruit of your labours , why ? he farmed his 4 primal mights ? no one forced him to choose that specialisation , if u went out and farmed all the mats for x number of primal mights , its pretty screwed that someone else is gunna be able to take the resulting " spares ", especially when they sell for 120 g + ( Thaurissan ) . 
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 For the ones who said they would want people to pay additionally up front - how hard is it to say you are transmute specced , when you aint and get additional gold ? 
 I would preffer saying something like " 10 g to transmute , if it proccs you can pay 10 g extra and get the procc ". After all , you wouldnt have gotten the 2 d might if they guy didnt want to transmute it in the first place . 
 wowheadere 9090 의 댓글 
 I can easily gather mats for 1 Primal Might in an hour or less if I ' m quick about changing farming areas for the different primals . 
 My usual spots are : 
 Primal Earth - I never have the need to farm this because I take in ALOT off mining . 
 Zyro 의 댓글 
 I find that ppl who keep all the extras to be lame . When you ask someone to disenchant something and it results in 2 + essences or dust , they don ' t just hand you 1 back and keep the rest . 
 I sure as hell don ' t go out and farm for hours so that someone can charge me 10 g for a transmute , then turn around and make 100 - 400 g profit off of pressing one button with my hard earned mats . 
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 The cooldown on Transmute : Primal Might is 23 hours . 
 stefanstan 95 의 댓글 
 well . .. for Alchemysts The Primal Might isn ' t rly that good for earning money , but it is good for gaining skill . sense you spend 59 g for mats aproctimatly it can be soled for 70 g , with a cooldown of 23 hrs . i suggest that you can give away primal might to the player that gives you mats . : ) no fee sort to speak . 
 Vesitin 의 댓글 
 Earth ! Fire ! Wind ! Water ! Heart . ... err Mana ! GOOOOOOO PRIMAL ! 
 ZynAr 의 댓글 
 Motes of Water can be found at the Elemntal Plateau in Nagrand ? ? 
 Well I haven ' t found any . 
 Motes of Fire , Motes of Air , and a few Motes of Earth ( only two rock elementals spawn at the location ) can be obtained there easily - except there ' re usually many people camping the area , and many don '¨ t mind ninjaeing . 
 On a side note : Apropos ninjaeing . .. It ' s not necessarily enough that you hit the target . Another can still steal it from you , if he happens to have higher dps than you did . - At least this is what happened to me over the last few days , when a mage ninjaed my targets after I had begun hitting them . 
 lightmuse 의 댓글 
 The best way I found to resolve the transmute issue is this . Tell them that you will sell them the 1 Primal Might for Xgs . and that any procs would be sold for a discounted rate if they so chose . So for example , If you were to sell the transmute for 20 G ( just an example , the price would be to your choosing ) you could sell any additional procs for 15 G . If they didn ' t want to pay the 15 G then the procs are yours . 
 Another way I have seen Alchemests do this , is sell the transmute , but if it procs , the Primal Might is free , and then the Alchemest keeps the procs . So the Customer get a free primal might and the alchemest gets his paycheck , . 
 Correct me if I ' m wrong , but couldn ' t an alchemist who hasn ' t taken the Transmute specialization claim that he has , and give the same option to the buyer , essentially making them pay even more for just one primal ? This would be another way to scam . .. personally , I wouldn ' t agree to gamble on a sale even if I was grouped with the alchemist . 
 psilocybe 의 댓글 
 Transmute issue : "/ 2 WTS primal might transmute ". Buyer puts mats in trade window , you put a premade might in the window , click trade . Then you laugh all the way to the bank , where you make a new might . 
 Frederiksen 78 의 댓글 
 You still can ' t get any guarantee that he is in fact a master of transmutation . 
 So , it ' s a gamble for the buyer . I ' d settle for the one primal deal . 
 it ' s been my experience that 1 x on the AH is almost always cheaper than the cost of the individual primals , so be sure to price it out before farming ( the flip side is that it ' s almost always more profitable for alchemists to sell the individual mats instead of transmuting mights unless they ' re transmute spec ' d ) 
 DrAgRoS 의 댓글 
 Primal might requires a veritable group of planeteers to create . 
 Wind errr Air ! 
 Heart errr Mana ! 
 ( bah , its close enough ) 
 sadly you ' re right , there ' s no way to know what spec an alchemist is , it does not show up on armory at all and certainly wouldn ' t show on inspection in game 
 this sounds like a good scam actually : / thankfully my elixir specced alchemist is too nice to do this to people 
 Spinx 의 댓글 
 Ok no one has mentioned this Earth , wind , water , fire , heart ( mana ) GO PLANET ! !!! Captain Planet being Might odviously . 
 creepwood 의 댓글 
 Also paying halv of the crafting cost is not in proportion of the chance of getting an extra . If there is 10 % chance to get an extra might he should pay 10 % extra in " gambling - cost ", not 50 %. 
 bestonearound 의 댓글 
 It should be noted that nowdays there are so many people trying to use this to level their Alchemy , that no one should need to pay for a transmute . I am on a medium population server , have had over 20 transmutes , and can always find someone that values the intrinsic value of a skillpoint over someone who just wants 5 g ( which is what people try to sell thier transmutes for on my server ) . 
 Bodes 의 댓글 
 I think your tipper needs to read Bestonearound ' s post . 
 2 . 4 . 2 PTR patch notes : 
 - All 23 - hour profession cooldowns are now 20 - hour cooldowns . 
 - All 4 - day cooldowns are now 3 days , 20 hours . 
 MageCynge 의 댓글 
 mana - kirin ' var village 
 fire - throne of kil ' jaden ( east of kil ' jaden circuit is nice ) 
 air - netherwing pass 
 water - sylmar lake ( just east of shatt , undewater eels ) 
 earth - sucks but canyon north of telaar ( crap tho if anyone wants to append plz : ) ) 
 skweebl 의 댓글 
 When I have trouble remembering the correct primals , I just think of the Captain Planet theme and it usually gets me by . Except heart , which was really just a poser element to begin with . 
 Cloud 8690 의 댓글 
 Cooldown was reduced to 20 hours instead of 23 . 
 loneranger 의 댓글 
 The eels do drop motes of water as of patch 2 . 4 . 2 . As for the drop rate , I gathered ~ 15 motes doing the quest from Seth in the Lower City . Happy hunting ! 
 As for the extra procs with transmutes allways talk it over before doing the transmute and how to pay if there will be procs . 
 There are a lot different ways like said above , you can gamble and get the extras or you can get your money back and let the transmuter get extras and i guess there are several more ways of dealing with this . 
 But as i said make a deal before transmute how to deal with procs . 
 And BTW 15 g is a fair price for the transmute as the mats goes for average 95 g due to wohead prices and the BO of the primal is 150 g you still get it a lot cheaper . 
 anthongy 817 의 댓글 
 Personally I think it ' s unfair . I do not believe an alchemist should be asking for a tip since they ' re getting a chance to get the proc . It ' s like asking for an enchanter to DE something that has the chance of 1 . 5 x Greater Planar Essence , and it procs for 2 , you give the person 1 x planar essence and get tip as well . Most people would think that ' s unfair . 
 jclement 30 의 댓글 
 What a bunch of whiners . Yes , I understand you busted your butt to either farm or buy the mats , but I busted my butt to get xmutation mastery . 
 You may be tipping for the proc , but what you are really buying is the 20 hour cooldown . Your alchemist cannot transmute anything again for another 20 hours . So if I xmute for you , I have absolutely 0 opportunity to process anything for myself till tomorrow . 0 gold for me . Yay ! 
 As for multiples from xmutation master , since the latest patch went live , I have processed only 2 multiples , and they were both only 1 extra . It ' s supposed to give a chance to produce up to a total of 5 . I ' ve done that only once , and that was before the latest patch . But I used to produce multiples 20 % of the time , anywhere from 2 - 4 extra , usually 2 or 3 . At least once a week , sometimes twice - I was in the money . 
 I make a deal with people for whom I sell my cooldown . I get a tip regardless because I won ' t be able to process again till tomorrow . If it produces multiples , buyer keeps odds , I keep evens . In other words , if it produces 5 , you keep might # 1 , 3 and 5 . I keep # 2 and 4 . AND I still get the tip for selling my cooldown . 
 But again , since the latest patch , 2 months now , I ' ve only gotten 2 multiples ( processing every day ) and they were both 2 mights out of the deal . Xmutation master just doesn ' t pay like it used to . In fact , I ' m thinking of giving it up for Pot or elixir master . At least that doesn ' t have a cooldown and really pays off better than xmute mastery - always has . 
 Follow up : After 2 months of processing might and getting only the 2 instances of multiples , I contacted Blizzard Support . I did not get a response to my query , but the next 3 days , I got 3 multiple xmutes : all 2 each . At first I thought they had changed xmutation mastery to be like other masteries : where processing always produces 2 . Well , that ' s not true . But it does seem that xmutation does produce multiples a little more often . It ' s still not like it was prior to August , but better . 
 I ' m still debating switching to another mastery . 
 Just curious as this says no CD at least when im on wotlk . wowhead . com . In LK / Patch 3 . 0 . 2 , will this Xmute have a CD ? Just curious . .. : ) 
 squirrelbot 의 댓글 
 Complicated answer : if someone specializes in alchemy , especially transmutes , the extra proc is a major component of their income . They could already be making more money by transmuting their own mats from then to the AH than they get from tips . Taking away the random specialization proc would only makes their profession even less effective . 
 So basically . .. an alchemist is already stupid if they ' re wasting a cooldown on a random scrub vs . their own mats . 
 That ' s for transmutes that have a cooldown . For potions or anything without a cooldown . .. basically , who cares : ) no big deal either way . You paid him for 1 you get 1 , be happy if someone gives you 2 when you only paid for 1 . 
 Abomination 의 댓글 
 It no longer has cooldown since 3 . 0 . 2 patch . .... last night an alchemist made me 8 
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 It ' s very very difficult after doing a Primal Might will have to wait 20 hours . Things are easy to take , but it expects too much . 
 ironyupie 의 댓글 
 Just incase anybody was as lost as I was finishing this quest . .... Before you can make the primal mights , you need the receipe which can be bought from Skreah In Shattrath City . 
 Used to make Runed Adamantite Rods for enchanters . Only real use for these in WotLK besides a couple enchants from 350 - 375 is to make the Arcanite rod you need next . 
 Actually they are still used for Master of Transmutation . You need 4 of them if you haven ' t chose an alchemist specialization already . 
 A note for anyone who ' s an engineer , you can use the Zapthrottle mote extractor to get motes of mana in netherstorm . 
 A note for anyone who ' s an engineer , you can use the Zapthrottle Mote Extractor to get the motes of mana in netherstorm 
 These suckers can fetch a mighty nice price on Auction house . If you have an engineer / alchemist . you can faceroll your way to getting it quicker ( aclh to craft , herb to get green , engineer to get air ' s . rest are easily farmed ) . 
 A fledgling enchanter will have trouble with this , which is why you might want to wait till 80 pick up quicker on leveling enchanting , where you ' ll have a substantial income to support it . 
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 These babies have gone up to the mid 300 gold mark on my server . Thanks to alcs flocking to transmute mastery for truegold procs . 
 Earthenlady 의 댓글 
 people on nagrand will feel PAIN when tryin to get those mights . after my last check they are roughly 500 g a piece . and the primal prices where always around 40 - 50 g a piece . 
 still requires this , as does . Check prices on your realm and watch for movement , as there is a niche market here , even at this stage of the game . Just pop some values into a spreadsheet and see if there is profit to be made , then keep your eyes open for the primals on the AH . : ) 
 The best way I ' ve seen to farm for these , is as well as killing the mobs , is to use a 기압 조절 가스 추출기 . However , you have to be a engineer of sufficient skill level to use . This doesn ' t mean you have to have your character know engineering and alchemy , you can just have another character with engineering farm them . 
 Ionite 의 댓글 
 Still fetches quite a price . On Argent Dawn EU it even goes to 400 gold for one of those . 
 rslogic 의 댓글 
 These are going for 700 g a pop if I remember correctly , so I ' ll confirm the best ( imo ) spots to farm each " element " for the primals . 
 Mote of Air : You actually start NW of the Altar of Shatar ( NE Shadowmoon Valley ) and run behind the hills behind the Altar and keep going East along the edge until you find no more Eles . After that , fly down to the giant crystals in SE Shadowmoon Valley finding Eles all around there , then head south through the pass to the East of Sanctum of the Stars and around South and West of that area . Repeat as needed . ( Also , there are Water Eles in the very few water areas in SMV , East of Coilskar Point , which will help supplement a few Motes of Water before you head off to that farm site ) 
 Mote of Water : VERY SE Terokkar Forest , the waters NW of Skettis . You probably won ' t even have to go into the water , but as a S . Priest it was fairly easy to levitate while running across and throwing a SW : Pain to kill them . 
 Mote of Earth : Be a miner . Apart from that , Nagrand has plenty of spots where Earth Eles are gathered ( as well as some Wind and Water opportunites in the hills , all around Nagrand , and the lakes ) . I believe I farmed my Earth mostly in Netherstorm , however , south of Area 52 from the earth eles . 
 Mote of Mana : DEFINITELY South and NE to NW of Area 52 in Netherstorm . Mana Wraiths . At the same time you ' ll be seeing a lot of earth eles too . Good combo spot . 
 Mote of Fire : I chose the NE - most plateau of Hellfire Peninsula , from the fire eles there . Didn ' t take long at all . I noticed a lot of Fire Eles in SMV also , but I ' d already taken care of fire and didn ' t care to farm more . 
 Also , Primal Earth and Primal Fire were relatively cheap on the AH , whereas Mana was about 15 g each , Air was about 25 , and water about 20 . 
 tufty 1961 의 댓글 
 Absolutely ridiculous price in AH for these Primal Mights on my server at the moment ( Eonar ) . Would you believe 1500 g ? That I am afraid is just sheer greediness . > 999 % above market value . .. 
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 It ' s literally a sin how much these and the adamantite rods cost currently on the ah . I think it ' s about time Blizzard helps out a leveling enchanter . 
 wowkardy 의 댓글 
 Kinda nice drop rate , 1 primal in 3 - 4 mobs 
 wartowar 의 댓글 
 hi i need pirmal might for inchant rod help me ty 
 No longer needed for Enchanting rod . 
 No longer needed for Alchemy Specialisation 
 No longer needed at all really . 
 i need them im a bs and most my bc need this item ! 
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