I think the they are both as bad should elicit a much stronger response than whichever preference people have . One is a preference possibly terrible , but to each his own , the other one is a world view at odds with reality , with terrible consequences . <| sep |> I ' ll take a source on the electro gay stuff too if you got it . Mike Pence wants US public funds to go into gay conversion t h e r a p y n e w s o m t r u e m i k e p e n c e a dvocatedconversiontherapy . He ' s never been stupid enough to go on the record with what exactly he thinks that theraphy should contain . But electroshock therapy is used . <| sep |> Yeah of course it is . It ' s an antivirus <| sep |> Seeing this struck a note with me . My neighbor asked if I could help her get her husband up off of the floor the other day because he had fallen . The night before . And she left him there because he couldnt get up , all night . The man had dementia and was 87 years old . The next morning she called because he wasnt drinking his water and wouldnt move . I went over amd tried to give him water but he was blue in the lips , wouldnt respond , and come to find out was dead . br br We were never close but she has not one person who ever called . She will be joining my family at Thanksgiving dinner tonight hosted by my mother .