I agree . People like to botch about the grind . At least blacktop allows you to progress over time even if you lose . whereas MTO puts up the brick wall if you can ' t figure out how to win <| sep |> Always thought a group of Asians was called a Bowl of Noodles <| sep |> Doesn ' t that require unlocking the bootloader ? <| sep |> Thanks guys , I really needed some shit in my mouth this morning <| sep |> You should tell her . <| sep |> A DEFENSE OF CHIRON , THE UNDERVALUED HORSEMANGood Chirons Know that he is quite undervalued right now . Especially since the cooldown improvement on his 1 , he now has one of the better laning phases out of all the hunters . His niche is that he is a sustained dps utility hunter . Chiron especially shines in double hunter comps or with a secondary magical adc because of his great utility cc cleanse , easy to confirm slow , good hp sustain , knockupdisplacement and bonus % protection reduction you don ' t have to build trans on him , he has naturally high base attack speed which works well with Death ' s Toll . Something that people overlook all the time is the extra 3 % protection reduction combined with executioner this is almost 40 % pen , this reenforces his role as a somewhat passive teamfighter who ' s job is to constantly pepper their front line with basic attacks and use his cc cleanse well . His dash , although not as good as a hard leap , is probably the best dash in the game nox and mercury also contenders It ' s a mini sobekpluck and good Chirons will cancel it right after the knockup to continue attacking , making a SobekChiron duo lane very difficult to deal with . A last point and something that I like to abuse a lot is that he is a good counter to Athena , not necessarily the ult , but he completely shuts down her dashtaunt combo in teamfights . she dashes in and taunts , chiron uses the 1 cleanse to save the victim of the taunt then dashes at athena firing an auto while dashing , she gets knocked up and back and her protections are reduced by 3 %, then chiron uses his 2 , she is now slowed when she comes down from the knockup and is then shredded by executioner and whatever damage Chiron ' s teammates do . TLDR Pick Chiron into Athena , build Executioner , spam laugh and win .