Exactly . I mean , as much as I liked the Windup Girl , it ' s pretty stock in most ways , it ' s certainly not changed the genre . If nothing else , it ' s too new . And no Stand on Zanzibar ironic with Stephenson and Gibson both in the list , when they both cite it as a core inspiration . <| sep |> Apologies actually , I had several replies far more volatile than yours that wasn ' t meant to be directed at you . Appreciate the explanation of the EC . <| sep |> He also skipped a weight class on the way . Going from lightfly to superfly , beating the arguable number 1 at each of them at the time . This happened within 8 months of each other . <| sep |> hugs I hope your weekend gets better ! xoxoxo <| sep |> Vadis OdjidjaOfoe ? Seen him in the Champions League with Warsaw a few times but wondered how his performances were in the league . Still bewildered as to why he wasn ' t given more game time for Norwich , outside of injuries .