It took root surprisingly well when the Europeans introduced it , though . If the legend isn ' t a modern joke , it ' s likely a few centuries old . Probably the result of some small Christian community mixing some syncretic beliefs in before settling on the idea that a specific spot was holy . <| sep |> I think you ' re doing philosophy a grave injustive . I agree , but as of yet nothing made me change my mind . Perhaps you ' ve never studied it seriously . I studied it for 3 years in highschool , I ' m by no means an expert , but of the things I studied , to quote a friend , the 95 % is wrong or I already thought of that . And nothing I heard or read after highschool falsify that . And of course , some of it is not wrong , but just wonky theories that should not be taken seriously we all have weird theories about life and the universe , writing them in pompous words doesn ' t make them any more legitimate . ZFC is compatible with our intuition . That ' s not the same way as capturing it . You got what I meant , you ' re being argumentative for no reason . There is no reason there is a philosophical reasonThat ' s what I said s . Of course you can see my utilitarian reason as a philosophical justification , but then every abstract thought is philosophical , obviously there is no formal definition , but if you read Brouwer ' s argument and mine , you ' ll surely see that his is philosophical and mine isn ' t . I also think you may want to reconsider your views on philosophyFor one professing to hate philosophy I sure as hell spend a lot of time in philosophical discussions , I ' ll give you that .