We know Itachi curbstomps Orochimaru , we actually see it happen . And Jiraiya ' s feats put him above the likes of Orochimaru and his scaling is much better as well since he was fighting the likes of Pain despite the numerical disadvantage . Kisame lost to Guy and would ' ve lost to Bee were it not for his disadvantages . I would agree that the statements are true . <| sep |> Time also begins a few seconds after kickoff to ensure the match keeps going , if I ' m not wrong . <| sep |> The discrimination both positive and negative you experience depends on those who hold power . Alsothis is discussing who holds powerDiscussion was about who is more entitled . <| sep |> My thought was are there any more of you up there ? <| sep |> As always the real lpt is in the comments