In my 2000 ish hours of Warframe , I more or less played all Warframes with Ivara being the most played , I think . Perhaps , Banshee and Inaros were up there , too . I ' ve never seen anybody claiming Loki to be a difficult to play Warframe . I see absolutely no connection between Androxus and Loki . The vast majority of the Warframe community refers to him as the master race quite clearly because he has few weaknesses . He ' s blatantly overpowered in most mission types . His low health pool makes little difference with Quick Thinking and Primed Flow . In fact , with a permainvisibility Zenurik build , he doesn ' t even need Quick Thinking . He can easily achieve maximum Power Efficiency with just about any build including his Irradiating Disarm build since he never needs to invest in Power Strength . He can permanently render enemies useless and kill everything . Loki ' s the definition of cheese and is quite possibly one of the easiest Warframes to play . He has no mechanical nor strategic demand . Androxus is NOTHING like that . I do like Androxus myself , but I ' m very objective by nature . I don ' t care enough about him enough to have an ulterior motive since I care more about Damage and Support not that I have one for those either . While what you said isn ' t incorrect , here ' s the problem . All projectilebased Damage or Flank champions who don ' t shoot logs and require sharper aiming than Androxus are long ranged . In short to medium range , Androxus demands the most measured against vulnerability . In the damage category , the only mid range is Viktor . Let ' s not talk about his aiming prerequisite . Bomb King needs better aiming than Androxus but is compensated with a lot of crowd control . In the Flank category , Buck and Skye are short to medium ranged just like Androxus . However , Buck has a huge reticle while Skye sprays . Therefore , you ' re pretty much back to Androxus . Remember that my comment was relative . It wasn ' t to say that he required godlike aim . It ' s that in comparison to his peers , he requires better . He doesn ' t have the luxury to be far away . He has to be in 100 % danger zone . Missing more than a few shots usually means failure or death or both . So , you can ' t compare him to people like Sha Lin . There ' s no doubt that they demand sharper aim than Androxus . But , they are compensated with a level of safety Androxus typically isn ' t . But , with all of that said , yes , I wouldn ' t mind if he received some recoil . I ' d still keep him at 4 , then .