Correct . But these people are still out there in and outside the stadium too . You would do a disservice to everyone if you claim homophobia does not exist in English football . It does . <| sep |> Weedwhack used on a knockdowngrabbed enemy will have 8 s cooldown . Grasping Root has no cooldown reduction , however , so I guess they change it so even Grasping Root can have cooldown reduction . Force an opponent to SS opens an opportunity for techchase , especially when Thorn Strike is now 16 meter which can serve as a quick dazeknockdown techchase . Only TOI bots with reset weapons can spam SS , not in pvp arena . If the opponent decides to not SS and wait for 4 s root to run out , then they offer themselves for free SunflowerBee spam and other cat ' s CC . Plus , if Seed Shroud still reset the root , then when the opponent makes a mistake to hit into the counter while their SS is down , they will get rooted again and cannot SS .