Birdshot is 4 . Target loads are 78 and are much smaller than what ' s pictured . It does look like it could be a . 177 BB . <| sep |> The principle though is that the VP still ascended into the role and it wasn ' t a power struggle . <| sep |> I was waiting for the therion 167 but after reading about Auto firing on the 133 and also realizing I have way too many mods I ' m not even considering it I ' d rather just use a sigelei 150 TC 4 larger than 22 millimeter atomizers then spend that money and deal with nonexistent customer service I mean Auto firing ? Come on that ' s about the worst thing in the world that your mod can do . I did however order an h cigar vt 200 for $ 79 shipt . I was never a fan of lipo butt hcigar produced high quality products when they made the VT 133 in the vt 200 and the nice thing is as you can cram a different battery in there . Anyway I ' m just ranting