yeah man five minutes thats not half bad <| sep |> And because Cuba has fucking standards and isn ' t going to let in some privileged crybaby with zero practical skills . <| sep |> No I stated he ' s better further forward as his shooting was on point , more crucial for the team as he would be in more scoring opportunities as opposed to playing centrally . Not even going to get into a debate I watched him week in week out for 15 years and his range of passing was immense , only Beckham or Alonso could spray a better pass in my opinion , also he was a solid tackler one of the last few players in the game to tackle hard like the old guard . You ' re just clearly a bitter United fan using sweeping statements like he always gave the ball away , plus you mention natural skills I listed in the previous comment what ' s required for a midfielder to be competent and he excelled in them all . You also talk about discipline and not being effective , he sat in front of the back four in Suarezs last season and orchestrated the quarter back role to full effect , so much so we was instrumental in a team that very nearly won the league . Everyone ' s entitled to their opinion but I ' ve watched every game he ' s ever played and some of the stuff you just about him just doesn ' t ring true at all .