As a Warlock , I don ' t wanna talk about it . <| sep |> Yeah but i don ' t want to post on their fb page , i want to keep my privacy <| sep |> Meh . I ' ll bite . Mens rights groups do have some merit for some serious social imbalances due to outdated laws and unfair societal views . These are the type of privileges that people refer to when they tell you to check yours . As for the things you referred to in your first comment . Poor arguments only proven by cherry picking exceptional strawmen . Though you did explain in your second comment that you don ' t agree because the data shown didn ' t account for pregnancy , career choice , and that women generally don ' t have the traits for success in areas that are mainly dominated by men . These things could be true to an extent but not nearly enough to explain away the generally accepted causation suggested by the data . Your primary defense against womens issues seem based on a mantra of Sure , they have it tough , but what about me ! ! The height ceiling ? ! Seriously ? Yes it does exist , but that doesn ' t solely apply to men in the business world . Women are generally shorter so i could safely assume a high likelihood of height bias disproportionally affecting women . Gender discrimination does exist . Maybe not to the degree touted by the loudest socalled feminist SJW , but it is still happening . Class , gender , and race play huge roles in America . Each deal of the cards gives you sets of advantages and disadvantages at birth . Many things aren ' t fair and that ' s something that society is slowly making progress , at times tilting the scales of fairness too far to one side or the other . It ' s not about saying people should feel guilt for their advantages , but people should still be aware of them , lest they point a finger at the next person to say I can do this , I worked hard and earned it , you can ' t do it because you dont deserve to . If any of your excuses were true , it would cheapen my accomplishments . It ' s like you ' re accusing me of cheating ! I get it . You feel persecuted . You legimately are to a degree . Now realise they also feel the same exact way about their societal disadvantages and realise that women had expected sociatal roles just like men did , except they had fewer choices . A simplified description would be huntergatherer or breadwinnerhomemaker . These societal roles were still quite rigid until the eras when Generation X started growing up . Now the rules that were made to protect women when they were limited to certain jobs and roles in society now appear to give an unfair advantage to women in some circumstances . The issue with the feminist and mens rights movements are that the loudest speakers are ususually on a narcissistic fringe that creates unempathetic , misinformed , misandrists and misogynists that create excellent strawmen for the opposition . Real feminism is about equality the same as the more moderate section of the mens rights movement , surprisingly also known as feminists since it is an equality movement . They ' re not the ones that make the strawmanesque statements for outrageous clickbait articles . The feministmensrights label isn ' t loudly worn as they ' d have to explain that they ' re not part of that # feminist 4 lyfe womyn Social Justice Warrior that blames the patriarchy for everything or a Mens Rights chauvinist misogynist that believes in the rigid gender roles of yesteryear and discounts womans contributions to society . There is no such thing as an easy fix to an issues as complex as these . Our laws are a bit archaic , but at the time they were correcting the prior imbalance . Your proposal is even more archaic than the current laws ! Blood money to the man for terminating the pregnancy against HIS wishes ? ! Were you attempting to contrast with an abortion money shakedown or something ? Ridiculous ! No financial claim on the father for keeping a child against HIS wishes . To an extent this sounds fair on the surface , but at the time before these laws were enacted women didn ' t have as many job opportunities , unwed mothers and widows carried huge social stigmas , and children were abandonned to orphanages . Marriage was practically a necessity for a woman .