Yeah . That ' s a different story . Those motherfuckers should not be eligible for any of our benefits , but some people think that because they ' re already here they should get some kind of help . Fuck that . <| sep |> This happened in a very liberal area , some of the employees who where hiding were black . Ive got the feeling that there is more to this story than the article says . <| sep |> the rest is just meaningless ramble that can be disproved with a simple says who ? , when it ' s not just flat out wrong . I think you ' re doing philosophy a grave injustive . Perhaps you ' ve never studied it seriously . Basically ZFC captures well ? our intuition of a collection of objects . ZFC is compatible with our intuition . That ' s not the same as capturing it . There are things in ZFC that go well beyond intuition . the fact that they had a philosophical reason for their choice of axioms doesn ' t mean we all need one , I , and lots of people I bet , are pretty content with our utilitarian reasoning . Sure , me too . But that doesn ' t mean that philosophical considerations must be rejected . There is no reason to say intuitionistic logic is more right than propositional , first order , whatever logic . Well , there is a philosophical reason because I agree with your utilitarian perspective I , too , don ' t think it is conclusive at all . The fact that you personally hate philosophy is also irrelevant . I also think you may want to reconsider your views on philosophy . I am fairly certain that you hold beliefs that cannot be solely justified based on a utilitarian view , and even the choice of a utilitarian view requires a philosophical step to justify that this is all that ' s required . I ' ll try to watch it with an open mind then ! You should . I really enjoyed it , even though I disagree that this is how all math should be conducted .