If you want my opinion those 2 mons aren ' t that great . I ' ve typing is terrible defensively and though hail got a buff its hard to use ice types . No one used ninetails for drought and I don ' t think hail changes that . If you want a hail team I think vanilluxe is the best hail setter and beartic might nudge out sandslash but even then that ' s the problem with hail , no one really abuses it . I also feel like it ' s more of a doubles strat , but that ' s not to say it couldn ' t work . I also wouldn ' t run them along side lucario , who already provides great steel stab . Vgc is a great format that let ' s you run more types of strategies , however the teambuilding process is completely different . I feel like that sandslash might see more luck in vgc but my biggest problem is hail wants to abuse blizzard , which sandslash doesn ' t do well . My main vgc team last year revolved around gravity and blizzard with sableye and scarfed kyuerem . Very strong , very fun . Always made me want to abuse hail because of how strong a spread 100 % accuracy stab ice move is . Call me up when they give slush rush to my boy glacion tho