Did you mention it was refurbished ? I kinda left that part out haha and the guy helping me probably knew but didn ' t care . It all depends on who is helping you I guess . Also , you can still get it at Frys apparently for $ 77 new with a promo ? <| sep |> Forever in our hearts and gravestones <| sep |> I know . If they could only educate their rep , instead of trying to pull a fast one . But I ' m in the sales industry and I know how they operate . <| sep |> Hub wheels aren ' t very good at absorbing shocks huh ? <| sep |> Yeah and the coal miners are getting their jobs back . <| sep |> hey me too ! except instead of ducking I didn ' t , and instead of imaginary , it wasn ' t . haha <| sep |> Why ? Style is a form of self expression . <| sep |> It is above the second seam .