Non , j ' aimerais qu ' ils dbattent . Que l ' un critique , que l ' autre rponde , que le premier soit interpell et rponde nouveau . Si pour toi un dbat c ' est de la politique spectacle , c ' est assez triste . Si tu veux les couter rciter leur programme , va lire leur site web , c ' est peu prs aussi utile . <| sep |> I don ' t disagree , we had to switch because we didn ' t want to pay for the TS 3 server anymore . <| sep |> Oh wow that is a good point , I completely forgot Na ' Vi don ' t play Cache . These are all of Zeus ' s matches on Cache that are on HLTV Look at the dates . <| sep |> I ' d check out this post that I made a few days ago . Even though it ' s intended for mid to low challengers , you might be able to learn something from it . Also , what platform are you on ?