Could be a SBC reward <| sep |> Does not computer . DOES NOT COMPUTE . <| sep |> I come from an Irish bias , but at the time I saw Scholes as the guy who played beside Roy Keane . Good player but below Keane , Giggs Beckham in the pecking order <| sep |> This is the most consistent hypothesis . When Odin was first put into the crystal , it was as rider and blade , and thus tempered believer and primal sword . When it was first defeated , the primal was picked up by its defeater , and that person became the new Odin . The old tempered was released , and as the primal has no use for failed followers , let him go . There is always just one Odin , and it follows where Zantetsuken goes . This is a key element to the effective nature of primals . Primals aren ' t just summoned beings , they are summoned forces and aspects . This also lies at the heart of the problem with the belief that primals exist as in intrinsic entity somewhere in the Lifestream . Presumably , you can summon different aspects of the same primal at once , but not of the sake aspect . Here , the primal is an enchanted sword of sorts , and very much real . Defeat of the primal just results in defeat of the tempered , to be lifted in battle once again . We ' ve never actually defeated the primal , just its vessel . If we were successful , it might return to the Lifestream , but because it exists as a solid thing , much akin to the eyes of a dragon , there is in fact only possibly one Odin at any one time . And for some reason , he stays in the Shroud , never wandering far . Can he ? Hmm .