You know where I first heard of this idea of prayermeditation ? You ewk . You created that idea as a skewed characterization of something . You ' ve created connotations with that word which conflate the actual practice with something it ' s not . Also , you characterize various Zen sects and schools as church ' s also a term I ' ve never seen applied anywhere except by you . The issue is , I ' ve read the works of various scholars of Zen , and nothing you say is in accord with anything I ' ve come to understand through my studies . In fact , your characterizations appear incredibly dishonest , in that they are meant to be demeaning and dismissive yet are unfounded in anything . No doubt , you will reply by saying something about me or my character . Maybe say something about alts or perhaps make a claim about my religiousity . The truth is , you just had you tongue cut out here , but you can ' t seem to cease your unintelligible blubbering .