This happened to me this morning . I spawned into someones tank and got some MG kills using the map . But the only way to fix it was to quit and rejoin a server . <| sep |> Bilbo Baggins , who is dead . <| sep |> No , please , accept my apologies as i should have passed on this one and since i cannot tell a lie have to admit that i , too , hail from the Great White North , NS to be exact , take er easy by . <| sep |> That ' s easy . Ask them where the standards for objective morality come from . They will probably respond with , I think it ' s common sense not to rape or kill . That moral standard relies on your own reasoning , which is moral relativism . For a moral standard to be objective , it must transcend individual reasoning . In a society without an objective standard you can ' t actually say that rapekilling is wrong if someone else does it .