I only have carpet so if I do get some I will have to buy a big blanket for them to play on . Thanksfor all the info . <| sep |> I focused primarily on the derivative because that ' s the context in which it ' s usually initially taught . You are correct though that it isn ' t limited to derivatives drumsnare . It was just the first way it was described to me . I was also trying to avoid doing any counting or math in my description . Probably to the detriment of the description . Yours worked much better . <| sep |> After all those donuts it can be hard to tell . But hey , after that many donuts you can say that they ' re ' all natural '<| sep |> Ok thank you , this tells me everything I needed to know ! <| sep |> character change for Ortiz ' s altName Axel Ortiz Faction AzuresBio Axel is a exswat team who after some events decided to try and put his talents to use in attempts to make more money