yeah ill spend some more time on the wiki i think i was adding in a few extra steps . the extra times always worth a better end result . one more thing , does this matter ? the left is the KCP codecdecoder thing i mentioned earlier on the left with ffdshow on the right . are they both trying to work at the same time ? do i need to specify what decodes what ? btw all the KCP ones are apparently directshow so i think that means they should work with avisynth . wait does avisynth do the same thing as ffmpeg ? <| sep |> They are bought and paid for . The FBI is illegitimate . <| sep |> You keep playing that fiddle of a small semantic victory whilst the city of your actual point burns . <| sep |> I wouldn ' t say it ' s a shame he has a bad reputation , I ' d say it ' s a shame he has done things such as make racist comments and bite other players in order to receive that reputation