This kicks in when confronted with conflicting claims about what a label used for self identification really means . How should we assess the claims ? Which criteria should we use to decide which claim is more reasonable ? I argue that one important criteria should be Has the claim been confirmed by people that identify using the label ? A background is the observation about how difficult it is even for some good intentioned knowledgeable people to give a fair description of positions they do not hold . <| sep |> They ' re ascending to the next level of nervous . Super nervousjinn 2 <| sep |> Better than Foldgers in my cup . <| sep |> And how exactly are your 2 graphics of ANY significance ? You are claiming stuff here without any proof . I could do those graphics in 5 mins in excel and be done with it .