That looks like a real nice and effective platform for free discussion . Please see what you can do in regards to bringing back that format in a new kind of siteforum for this sort of stuff . <| sep |> hm , dont think they will change it . all the other nodes also count to different dailies . <| sep |> Did you even read my comment ? Because I already answered the question in my comment before you even asked it . <| sep |> You ' ve nearly won the wooden spoon the last couple of years . Does that count ? <| sep |> I love how you competely ignore the stats I provide and continue with your braindead narrative of MOST working class people do not own a car , house , etc . That ' s just too funny . I ignore your stats because I ' m not American and even if I was things like average number of cars owned is no indication of the economic reality , some people own many cars . The only statistic that I refer to often about the US is over 46 million Americans live in poverty . Financial mobility in the U . S . is pretty good , sorry , but you can definitely get out of the lower classes and get rich . Mobility from middle class to upper class , but people stay in poverty for generations . Waaaah waaaaah is literally all I ' m hearing . 0 stats . 0 economic of financial insight . Nothing at all . Just a bunch of bitching about problems that exist all over the world with 0 actual solutions . I gave up of trying to convince you of anything , you think capitalism works , despite there being more vacant houses than homeless people in my country and especially in the US , more food than there are hungry people , more medicine than there are sick people . The solution to me is very simple , produce things for human need not for profit . You probably disagree with that or don ' t see a way that it could work . That ' s fine , we disagree . But I ain ' t searching through statistics to prove some fundamental realities , working class people don ' t own capital , they can build up capital by selling their labour , but compared to business owners , stock holders and all other owners of private property , the worker is in ' last place ' so to speak . If you want to know more with actual sources then read a book on the labour theory of value or marxism . But I get the feeling that you ' re not really curios you just think I ' m wrong and everyone has it as easy as you .