While i agree with you that some people will always be dumb no matter what kind of measures you take , i do , however , have a problem with their stupidness negatively impacting others . Here you have a strained police force in a small town and search and rescue teams from the Red Cross who are all unpaid and have regular jobs to tend to . They have to go up there time and time again to help people who put themselves in risky situation without preparation . This is all done free of chargeMy argument is therefore that you have to be pragmatic towards allemansretten and realise that there might be a need for some restriction in the best interest of everyone involved . <| sep |> i was so lit i didnt notice smh