I hold a large efund , but mostly because I ' m self employed and need to plan for the lean times . <| sep |> Of course im using ar <| sep |> Yea only for me <| sep |> I don ' t know why but the fact she ' s wearing a male cover didn ' t jump out at me . Glad they ' re moving away from separate uniforms . Women need a different cut , but not a completely different uniform . <| sep |> I have mentioned several times about the player making the choice to fall , I alluded to this being the case when I said the DM warns him that what he ' s doing breaks his oath and continuing to do so . If he doesn ' t want to fall he needs to stop breaking his oath . The Fall is unique though because it ' s the only case where the DM can decide that the character changed his feelings or his character , to use a better word . Which points at the core of the problem the DM changes something that should be offlimits for him . He can do everything with the world , but he can ' t change the thoughts and motivations of player ' s characters . If a player chooses a paladin , I ' ll continue using my example of a paladin of pelor , who then goes on to murder and torture , as I have said before , the DM isn ' t changing anything , the player has already changed the characters feelings , he has gone from being a good man to a murderer , the DM didn ' t make him do that , he doesn ' t make him break his oath , he provides a response to those actions . If your paladin has decided that he wants to be a murderer then he should be instigating the fall and becoming an oathbreaker , but if he says nah , I want to stay a normal paladin but continue to murder people then the DM should be giving him the ultimatum stop it , or fall , otherwise it defeats the purpose of being a paladin . I actually believe that only Paladins and Clerics can have real falls . All other classes have no necessary rules that can ' t be explained away somehow . Then you aren ' t using your imaginationWarlock Patron exacts revenge for them breaking their deal , goes out of their way to make their life a living hell unless they agree to return their powersDruid Loses his connection to the powers of nature his powers of life become powers of death and decayI picked these two specifically because they are both like paladins and clerics tied to a source of power in a particular way . There are other more mundane ways of other characters falling .