GRID seems pretty good , and is indeed quite cheap . We don ' t care about racing games with powerups , we actually don ' t like Mario Kart that much . We love racing games with high speed , crashing and EXPLOSIONS . But yeah i ' m gonna get GRID and give it a goEdit She told me to add that we don ' t play multiplayer , we just pass the controller around . <| sep |> I gotta say , when I first read about survival from the PTS folks , I was in full doubt thinking oh god . a game mode ? Really ? Sounds really boring and lameI played last night PvE to get my feet wet with my friend and we basically ran through it for about an hour . Hella fun until we got downed by a heavy cleaner lolI did a solo PvP one , and man , I haven ' t been to the DZ since August and forgot how AMAZING it felt to be at risk , getting shot at by another player , and attracting nearby NPCs . It was great . I killed the guy that ambushed me though lolI ' d really wished the division were like survival when it first came out . Probably for the first 10 levels or so involving hunger , sickness , etc . and as you progress , all of that goes away via the storyline . I hope . really hope Massive does year 2 content and goes down this route somehow . I really enjoy survival , and like you OP , not for the loot , for the feeling and thrill of surviving . Anyone can spend 10 minutes doing HVTs and other stuff and get maybe more loot than you would in 1 hour of survival IMO .