yes they are VERY pleasureable <| sep |> Odd it was front page for me . It ' s looks like your comment is 16 minutes old . <| sep |> I ' m pretty sure that this has always been the case and is intentional since it recovers much faster after doing it . <| sep |> I think Lupin is the scientific name for the family of plants , so that ' s where the English name comes from . I see . Here we ' ve most probably just had it for so many centuries that the popular name just stuck all the while . In fact , the name derived from arabic altormuz , kept in common language from way back when the Iberic peninsula was dominated by a northafrican caliphate , and the region was called alAndalusAndalus . I may grow some this year , I have a back yard now , I want to get a small fish pond for growing brown trout or tilapia and use the waste water to feed a garden . I don ' t really use my back yard for anything else . Dude , do it ! Champion the tremoo !