If theism is true , killing or not killing a person for example is a matter of personal taste . I want to see the atheists refute this . Fixed that for you . Now go learn the difference between the two and stop equating your specific flavor of religion to equal theism . Atheism nor theism give moral guidelines . <| sep |> The US has a distinction between what we would consider coops , worker owned ones , and Consumer Cooperatives . The idea is that the consumers own the cooperative as members . REI is theoretically this but in practice has simply become a huge corp . Credit unions would be another example . <| sep |> Elephant Man with the soul of Jesus Christ Himself would probably die without ever having had a romantic relationship .