I feel you , it ' s the reason I like the small msp I am working for . I get access to nearly everything . <| sep |> The first time I moved in with someone everything apart from go to work may as well have been in prison <| sep |> Misspk ? Anyways , toasterchat is the only one that matters . p <| sep |> Hey bro , mark my words this will happen . I just drank a gallon of koolaid and sacrificed my liver for this . <| sep |> It ' s more like admins hate SRD and are trying to kill everybody here off by drowning us in popcorn . <| sep |> Your motors are probably too small and high kV . Armattan suggests 1306 3500 kv motors for the frame , which sounds closer to what I ' ve seen on other 3 builds . F 4 flight controller for dRonin ? I really think Betaflight is just straight up better these days . I ' ve seen plenty of people move from dRonin to BF and have found BF ' s default PIDs fly better than dRonin ' s autotuned PIDs . I ' ve never seen someone go from BF to dRonin and not come back . The frame doesn ' t come with the pod section for the camera , you would have to buy that separately . The Runcam Owl Plus is an exceptional night camera , but pretty shockingly bad during the day . Lots of comparisons on YouTube . If night flying is what you ' re looking for then go for it , otherwise compare the Runcam Swift or HS 1177 basically the same camera and the Runcam Eagle , see which you prefer .