Don ' t worry , no offense taken ! I feel really stupid for taking this long to get them ready . Truly . If I didn ' t have the OH ' s to sell , I could have realistically had the UT done in a month . It just was such a low priority especially with summer I love the nice weather . Now that the OH ' s are almost gone , I pretty much have to get the MI ready soon . The UT is fine and all instate person gave it a 1010 out of state , 810 in state and that seems about right . But UT just isn ' t a great state , geographically speaking . MI is better for that . I ' d say OH is better still , but the lack of higher security features makes it a nogo for the future . I don ' t bring it up often , but I actually used to vend old MI back in the day not on here . I did the cheap trick of using thin PVC like IDGod did and printing the magstrips like Dion did . It came out a lot better than that sounds things were muc simpler in the fake ID world back then . Point being , I am looking forward to offering MI again . And doing it the right way this time EDIT at least I ' ve never done a presale . So no monies were tied up . I ' d feel much worse if I had . Although I probably would have gotten the UT done much sooner too .