That ' s a nice lead you ' ve got there <| sep |> Good way to keep yourself in business . <| sep |> If you have any extra , feel free to send em my way ! Stoked to see your future posts . <| sep |> Pretty interesting to watch when under the influence of certain alcoholic beverages . . <| sep |> Yeah , there ' s a way to go about it . When I first became vegetarian I started following veg message boards and had vegans scream at me that DAIRY IS RAPE ! !!! without explaining what the heck that meant . I knew nothing about the dairy industry , so I just thought they were totally nuts . I might have gone vegan sooner if they had calmly explained it to me instead of just screaming dairy is rape over and over . <| sep |> gonna break this down for clarityto me , bringing something new to the table is creating an IDENTIFIABLY unique soundthat ' s a point we agree on So as your example states Jauz , didn ' t create that sound . So then , is Crankdat the first person to make future bass and trap ? hell no . I didn ' t come close to saying this so I ' m not sure where you got this from . I said Jauz repackaged an underground style and brought it to the mainstream , which is great ! Hence why I ' m a huge Jauz fan probably one of the biggest around here , I ' m all about the Jauz sound I certainly don ' t think Crankdat is the first to make Future Bass and Trap . I don ' t know where you got that from . Actually , even if you scroll up , I never once said that Crankdat brought something new . I just don ' t think that ' s a valid reason to dismiss an artist when new is subjective . and there are plenty of other artists that have objectively pioneered new styles of production . Lido , Justice , Munchi , Mura Masa , it ' s a bigger list than you ' re giving credit . Again , a point we agree on . I listed three artists that I could think of that have objectively brought a new sound in bass music . I left out Daft Punk , Justice , Deadmau 5 , and Prydz because I said bass music . Lido is a good example of one I missed , though I do think there ' s probably an argument to be made that Cashmere Cat is a better example than Lido , because Cashy influenced a lot of what eventually became his sound . Mura Masa is an excellent call and I would add that to my previous list without second guessing it . But I think we are getting lost in the weeds and getting away from my original point , which wasWe obsess over artists that don ' t have an objectively new sound all the time see NGHTMRE , HeRobust , Ekali so I don ' t know why we would choose to draw the line at Crankdat .