So we agree that a varial flip done in street skating or a flat does not involve any hands ? And btw I ' ve been skating long before the game came out , and we used the terminology before <| sep |> Maybe . You didnt answer . <| sep |> Follow the downvotes <| sep |> I have been upset since we lost . I call it our loss not only Hillary , s loss . I volunteered 5 straight Saturday for the campaign and donated a couple of hundreds dollars . But I still thought what I could have done more . <| sep |> Which makes you a fossilized dinosaur . I bet you haven ' t learned anything new or admitted to a mistake in decades . Enjoy senility ! <| sep |> Yes , the pen I have has a chamber and coil made specifically for concentrates . It can hold shatter , budda , melt , glass , whatever your heart desires but just not dry flower . The PAX as far as I know cannot hold concentrates since the oven is on the bottom and everything would leak out onto your hand but I haven ' t done research on it or anything .