It is a bad starting point to think you have all the facts behind you . Isn ' t environmental protection historically a conservative position ? To be more specific In the video the presenter connected liberals to values like equality , fairness , care and protection . Is this correct in your opinion ? I like these values and I try to hold onto them like religious dogma as good as I can . Doesn ' t have much to do with rationality though . I also think that a society based solely on rationally deducted values would be quite terrible , if it was even possible to distil them in the first place . disclaimer I am not American , just very interested in this discussion . <| sep |> If you have to ask the answer is no . <| sep |> Really ? How many jobs have you taken where you weren ' t required to prove citizenship or authorization to work ? Because even McDonald ' s makes sure your legal before they hire you . What are these great competitive jobs that don ' t require you to be legal ? Because at that point your issue is with an employer who is willing to knowingly break the law and fuck over its own country to undercut their budget . So the problem isnt illegal immigrants but in not holding companies accountable for their hiring practices . Its all just false misdirected rage . Nobody is stealing jobs . Companies choose to fuck theit employees over . Immigrants cant take jobs that companies arent willing to break the law to provide them .