Thanks ! Will try that out now <| sep |> Thanks ! I have quite a few disc so I might get a cheap one for my tobe PC until I can get rid of them . ! check <| sep |> Years back I would wake up at eat about 57 eggs every morning for about 6 months . if I just eat plain scrambled eggs I will still trigger my gag reflex ! I know the pain ! Could you give me an example of an average meal you would eat ? <| sep |> I take my wire and fold it in half using a pair of pliers to get the fold perfect . You don ' t want the legs to overlap or it will make wrapping harder . After that I just use my coiling stick and wrap like a regular coil . It does take some practice , my first few parallel coils were messy but now I can make them very clean .