Sweet . I am currently on a run through vanilla . About halfway through hardmode . Will look into modding once I am done . <| sep |> I understand your points . But my main problem is with the sandbox stuff . I hope the bank update will bring everything . But since we can ' t transfer items through the bank , will the update also open up new stuff for Sun and Moon ? For example , will I be able to get a Swampertite ? A second lucky egg ? I know it sounds like I ' m bashing the games too much . I love them and think they ' re much better than the gen VI games and a highlight of the series , but right now I don ' t see myself getting the same amount of playtime as I did in XY and even in DPPt . I ' m almost 60 hours in and have done most of the things I can . On the other hand I have 300 hours in Y and about 200 in Pearl . To me it all boils down to only 300 obtainable pokmon ingame . Even DP had more 445 combined .