Forgive my ignorance , but is there no longer the spinal tap test ? I still see no reasons this would be ever used if so though , it seems dangerous almost . <| sep |> You look an alliance where they don ' t take a fight if they can lose something ? First it ' s going to be hard to get 0 lost , second , most of big entity in nulllow have SRP thing , that mean you pay your ship let ' s say 300 mil you insure it , you fight with it , you lose it , you request SRP and the alliance will send you the price of the ship the insurance payout so you pay 1 time a pvp ship then you can wreck it every time you want with the right fit and in the right fleet ofcNow because i ' m a goons , i will try to make my ad here , so , in goon we got a lot of fleet some to just roam until we lost our ship , other to have fun , and other to try to win timer at the cost of isk don ' t matter we rat in super and have SRP i think this kind of fleet can intrest you and we got a lot of good ppl ready to help you in fleet , help you how to align etc etc we even have some pilot who run training fleet how to anchor etc anyway if you are intrest look to join Karma Fleet our newbee corp