I found this video pretty useful when I was doing something similar 8 PM 4 OsidawgHope it helps you too <| sep |> Armoron fights in F 2 P take forever to end and they are extremely boring because both players will hit consistent zero ' s against rune armor and the skill level is low because you almost never have to react . Safing is frowned upon because if you have no opportunity to kill your opponent during the fight then you can only die from a death match . Some players will say this to newer players to make them eat lower , but it ' s just a mind game and sometimes you just have to realize that . The players commenting on this post are having a rough time understanding honor PvP , and I can agree that it seems illogical at first but as with all things it takes time to learn . I wouldn ' t know the first thing about the meta of PvM , so I wouldn ' t argue with maxed mains about the right way to kill Corp . Same thing applies here . This post came out more condescending than I meant it to , but it ' s irrational to seek and then follow the advice of players saying that it ' s okay to use Protection Prayers and to safe in the Edgeville wilderness . OP , if you want a quick run down of the unspoken rules then shoot me a PM on here .