1010 would cringe again . <| sep |> Would workI didn ' t say it was <| sep |> i dont believe you . <| sep |> Man say what you fucking will but tolzein played with balls tonight i respect that <| sep |> I hear you , I ' m also quite into the competitive scene and know pretty much all there is to know , from Smogon to league format , you name it . You have to admit that when you see how defense is working in Pogo with the current system , with Rhydon hitting that # 3 spot without even a need for Eviolite I ' ll add lol it clearly isn ' t right . To take Chansey as an extreme example , capable of timing out very strong attackers the problem is , when you take it ' s sp . def and make that the only thing that matters essentially raising the def to be equal , that really doesn ' t represent what Chansey does in the main games . Yes , it ' s a huge bulky threat when played right , but there are ways to play around it . In a world where it ' s defense is as high as it ' s special defense , good luck with that . So yes , of course you can build a team with dedicated special or physical walls , make appropriate predictions , and switch them in accordingly to choose what to be hit with , but that really doesn ' t translate to pogo . Chansey can sit in a gym and stall , not switching out or playing strategically , and there ' s no possible way for anyone to ever hit it physically and bring it down , no statuses either obviously . There ' s no team composition or predictions when you plop something in a gym . So of course , other things like Rhydon are way up there with unrealistic bulk , eating supposedly quad effective water and grass hits for days because it ' s impossible to just smack it with a Scald or Grass Knot that actually does damage . I really do think averaging is better for defense .