Obama was telling them to vote , and evidently millions of them did 3 million is the last estimate I ' ve seen . FWIW , I was never asked to prove my citizenship when I registered to vote so I doubt anyone else was either . That needs to change . <| sep |> I can ' t I can record a song to youtube and shout you out the one acoustic I have left was given to me from a deceased friend ! <| sep |> Olympus OMDEM 5 mkIII found a refurb for ~$ 700 . definitely in my price range . Do you have a lot of experience using this camera ? What ' d you think of the images ? <| sep |> What logic leads you to that conclusion ? From my outlook The US will not give up access to Californian ports The US military will not allow the pacific coast to go undefended . And will not protect an independent nation pro bono You ' ll never find 38 states willing to ratify a secession amendment The US is under no obligation to honor a request for independence and will occupy Californian territory indefinitely . Unless CA has a secret army we don ' t know about . Not to mention any Republican president worth their salt will simply threaten to deny Intellectual Property rights to businesses in California . Silicon Valley , Hollywood , and anyone with something worth protecting will come out against secession . The US can and would survive being a huge bully to California . Short of winning a Civil War there ' s just no way this happens