Loving the half time entertainment ! <| sep |> My experience has been somewhere between 3234 with Outlier pants . I ' m 6 ' 1 and 200 lbs . 6030 Chinos 32 I have a couple pairs of these and they fit better at 32 than any pants I ' ve ever worn . Part of that is definitely that the waist is stretchier than all the other pants on my list , but I ' ve found this more comfortable due to the massive freedom the pants offer . SD 33 Had to size up from 32 , where the waist was simply too tight . The calfs are still pretty tight , but they relax over time and have come to fit pretty well . Futureworks 33 Again , had to size up from 32 , where the waist was too tight . Strongworks latest 34 Took the advice to size up and they fit like a dream .