It ' s a joke . <| sep |> Agreed . I remember when we ' d get up at 12 or 1 am on Friday and go stand in lines for a few hours for a chance at the 10 TVs that were a couple hundred off . Now if you don ' t skip out on family time you ' re unlikely to get most of the deepest discounts . Is it too much to ask for the holiday to be for family , then the shopping to actually start the next day ? <| sep |> What ? How do you reckon that ? Did you even think about what you said ? What ? <| sep |> lol just contacted you on craigslist . glws <| sep |> Not really time wasted if I ' m having fun . Do you not know what hitting on people is or something ? <| sep |> Hey sir , does PraxisPaua Ring 8 % of Damage taken gained as Mana when Hit stacks ? <| sep |> or at the very least wish they would try to always act that way can consider themselves utilitarians . There are arguments for being a little stricter , but I feel safe in saying that this is the bare minimum . I think that this is a similar situation to a Christian whose actions evince only belief in belief and not actual belief . If you claim to have been convinced of a particular ethical system , but you don ' t even wish you would try to act in accordance with it , then I would point to this as evidence that you haven ' t actually been convinced .