Zarya is bad atm . Ther is not any good reason to play her now . The nerf to her shields is just ridicolously huge . Roadhog is just there to get a pick with his hook . He always was and he always will be there only for the hook . <| sep |> Rights exist when we humans make them up . I don ' t how that ' s difficult to comprehend . That sentence was your sentence , with my point switched out for yours . See how useless that is ? It ' s literally just me saying I ' m correct . I additionally said if we assume they feel about their life as we do . They can feel any way humans can , except there is no concept of rights in their heads , they don ' t act as if rights exist etc . In short imagine a reality where no human has ever had a thought about rights . Ever . And never will . That ' s it . Everything else is identical to this reality . The point of the hypothetical is to get you to explain how rights exist in that reality because they will , if you ' re correct , and then I ' ll see what the hell you mean when you say rights exist independently of humans in this reality . Now , is it something like Platonic Forms ? Do you believe rights are like plato ' s forms ? And therefore have some existence external to us , somewhere ? Do you think they exist the way some philosophers think numbers exist , independently of humans ? Can you please , please , please , give at least the smallest indication of what your argument is ?