congratz , you are still bad af lmaoimpressed by a silver elite who pressed mouse 1 <| sep |> Check gw 2 efficiency , sort locked items by gold value . <| sep |> The argument is that abortion is murder . Bullshit . That ' s a facade . The real objection is to sex , not abortion . <| sep |> umm i got stache for 19 . 5 if you want . your prices differ from title and body <| sep |> That song is so fire ! <| sep |> Should ' ve said long hair then <| sep |> The russian civil war was still going on in 1921 and the whites were for private property of the means of production and supported by most imperialist nations . The soviet union was only founded in 1922 . <| sep |> I saw a comment the other week condemning the welfare state socialism because it takes away the personal responsibility of giving to the poor . It ' s pure rhetoric . It ' s not actually a sincere reason to oppose welfare , it ' s just a way to counter the Christian liberals who argue these concepts as an extension of Christian charity . In truth , welfare is entirely unconnected to concepts of charity . The people who use this line of thought to oppose welfare are giving in to an extremely bitter perversion of charity that cares more about the act of giving then the needs of the recipients . The people who use this line of thought to argue for welfare are giving in to a joyless and impersonal conception of charity that would replace humanity with public policy . I haven ' t really talked about socialism here because I ' ve found that most people don ' t actually know what that word means , but the quick and dirty of it is that socialism also is unrelated to charity . Socialism just means collective ownership and control of capital . It has nothing at all to do with charity . Now there is a Christian argument in favor of these built around the option for the poor . This really is a different argument , though . I do believe that Christians should favor a public policy that favors the poor , but no one actually believes this takes away from our duty to help the poor with charity . tldr I am in favor of a welfare state , but this absolutely cannot be argued by referencing Christian concept of charity . It ' s a bad argument , regardless of which side is using it .