Get your high vis on and you ' re set mate <| sep |> DE have been pretty much crap until the jinksnap shot change that JUST happened . They haven ' t had much ability to survive and dish out damage , which was their issue . With the FAQ update I think they will be good , though . As for CSM , the base Codex is just bad . KDK is good and Daemons are good , and they often take a CSM ally just for a drake . The reason this is is because nothing else in the book is worth any investment . Every infantry model in the book is cost inefficient and the lack of ATSKNF means your marines are pretty trash . There ' s a reason the book is cherry picked highly . <| sep |> Ah I see thanks <| sep |> noone actually thought , that it can be released on december 12 10000020 PM ?