Thank you ! I looked for that but couldnt find it . Thanks for linking ! <| sep |> While that may be the case , I don ' t think that necessarily means they ' re allied andor working for each other . Bloodraven was arguably the most powerful political figure in Westeros for two decades from his appointment as Hand in 209 AC to his arrest in 233 AC . He was also a sorcerer , as were many close advisers to various rulers throughout ASOIAF history . However , given how hushhush and subtle are GRRM ' s allusions to such magicallyenabled advisers I think it very likely that they constitute a shadowy elite of political power brokers operating behind the scenes . Indeed , the more I look for clues of this the more I start to find . So while Bloodraven and the Kindly Man may be aware of each other , that doesn ' t necessarily mean they ' re political allies . They might even be members of rival political factions .