Yeah , well you think it ' s easy calling plays based around your strengths as a team ? We keep trying too okay but the spinner keeps landing on checkdown . <| sep |> But they have become a problem . You are saying that the people who have funded your health service are the problem . I am saying that it is more realistic to say that people who have not yet contributed the cost of the care they have received are the problem . I didn ' t claim you said to kill the old people . I ' m not saying immigrants should be denied access to the health service or that they should be prevented from coming into the country because of it I ' m all for immigration . What I am claiming is that your claim that old people have become a problem is demonstrably false , and were it not for them you would not have received health care as a child from the NHS . I don ' t think anything will exist in its current form in 3040 years time , and I don ' t think that the change will be for the worse I think it will have improved through the use of better technology and more sophisticated and targeted drugs , probably at the genetic level . And at that time you and I will be the elderly people who have paid for it all our lives and are glad that we and our children and their children will benefit from it .