The case doesnt but the motherboard does . <| sep |> I think the poster , and I , draw a strong distinction between groups and individuals who happen to be members of a group . I ' m glad you ' re able to engage with what the author implies as well as what has been specifically outlined . That ' s what I was getting at too . Her examples are specifically extreme and abnormal for the groups they represent . . . But it seems to require a hypothetical situation where the majority of a group is hostile instead of a few outspoken voices . That ' s the point of her identifying those examples , though . They are extreme , yes , but not abnormal to hear from individuals in that group . And the other point I raised is that at a certain point it will stop to matter whether it is a few outspoken voices or the majority that is alienating allies . If the alienation goes unchallenged by the group the alienation will occur . This is not hypothetical . I think the recent election illustrates this perfectly .