the retail version is likely an empty case with a steam product code . i did this with skyrm and it accepted the DLCs just fine . <| sep |> Looked great to me during the beta on my original PS 4 <| sep |> Oregon , southern Willamette Valley area Eugene , Corvallis , etc <| sep |> Ok so a guy enters the 2016 draft . But he ' s not signed or paid until 2019 for whatever reason and he beasts . Could he win rookie of the year at like 27 ? <| sep |> Uh , the quote in your post isn ' t from me . I said I didn ' t think it would cause a civil war , and there would be limited violence nutters and the sort of violence that large protests about hot button issues engender , usually instigated by police You , on the other hand , did talk about a ban at least with regards to cellphones . I ' m just pointing out that I ' ve never seen a workable , enforceable plan for a ban that didn ' t involve turning a large swath of the country into criminals anymore than we all already are . I agree that curbing gun violence , and violence in general , is a worthy goal . There are lots of ways we could address the problem from the sides instead of headon from improved education and economic standards which reduces crime in general , better funding for mental health , etc . The headon approach doesn ' t have any viable schemes , though . Blanket bans are a nonstarter because they ' re not very enforceable . Registration doesn ' t do much , even if we table the issue that the violent felons aren ' t going to go the legal route , that would only apply to new guns . Guns aren ' t consumer , useandtoss appliances . They have an incredible shelflife . Even with minimal , basic maintenance they can last well over 100 years , so they get handed down from parent to child , traded among friends , sold second , third , or fourth hand , etc with no paper trail . Hell , even as a gun owner , if we were starting fresh with a country that didn ' t have any guns in it , I might be in favor of a blanket ban on civilianowned firearms , but we ' re so deep in the red on this problem that the logistics of making a significant change at this point are astounding . Admittedly , it ' s only ever been tried locally and with limited financial incentives , but turnin periods have been tried and largely have failed to accomplish anything . The only way I can see that working is if the federal government is willing to shell out serious cash , enough to really make it worth people turning them in , and even that wouldn ' t get rid of all of them though it might make a serious dent . As for shoot all the bureaucrats , well yeah maybe we should , but because their corrupt andor incompetent vagbadgers rather than because they want our guns .