Stairmaster always gets me sweating around the 10 min marker vs a treadmill . This is on moderate on both machines . Just be sure to not grab the handles if you end up getting a stairmaster . It reduces the effectiveness of the exercise by ~ 25 %.<| sep |> Perisic is a fucking god <| sep |> If you happen to live in TX around DFW , sure . It ' s totally worth the money . <| sep |> It also looks like it is the older model there was a recent upgrade with a new GPU which is probably why its cheaper . Its still a pretty good deal and it got good reviews . Just be aware that SteamOS doesn ' t have all gameslinux does have Dayz though . <| sep |> Thank you , thank you , thank you ! !! I managed to snag two for my twins ! ! You are BEAUTIFUL ! !!!