Yeah people sometimes underestimate how flight works and what is possible . I bet most people here never saw a helicopter fly vertically nose straight to the sun either , but it ' s absolutely possible . <| sep |> Ah makes sense . Going to trust you just cause of your username . <| sep |> Just Wonder Traded a boxful of Dhelmise . Now I have Yungoos for days <| sep |> That ' s the problem with philosophy , you can argue against anything with it . In that I can argue that with the ever growing population on this planet we need all the plants we can get to recycle all that CO 2 we are pumping out back into O 2 for us . Animals are eating those planets we need and using up all our O 2 . SAVE THE PLANTS ! !! See how pointless this conversation can get ?