the gay community is quite diverse well here in Montreal and Ottawa anyhow You have those who live clubs and bars , you will find many also who prefer a movie with a few friends , walking around the city or just talking over a meal . best I can suggest is check online , classified like Kijiji are pretty good for starters , or check out the gay village in Quebec , most big cities have a gay scene . <| sep |> They make good to great linebraid . I have heard that pretty much all of their reels are really bad in one way or another . <| sep |> So really , either could be older . I mean if Oryx had already been fighting for millennia before he decided to create his Dreadnaught , then it would suggest the Hive are older still .