Nice I ' ll have to try to find a local option ! I actually hate all US processed creams and don ' t use them . Which is why I was so surprised the Irish versions were actually delicious ! <| sep |> I found the most awesome bread dip the other day . Duck Fat Candles Duck Fat , Butchers twine for the wick . Bacon bits , chives , thyme , oregano and salt . Then freeze them for a few hours until set . End results should be similar to this <| sep |> rdwut A Celestia episode would be 22 minutes of her sitting on a throne reading scrolls . <| sep |> My main point was not the software engineers , but the HB 1 visa program does drive down wages . I have been in the software industry for over 35 years and know the importance and contributions in RD and operations guys from overseas . At the same time the skill shortage you speak of would be much greater if not for the HB 1 Visa program . Labor shortages hurt companies , but help workers . Many clearly remember the negative effect of software developers shortage on companies in the late 90 ' s , many also remember the positive effects on tech workers , salaries soared . HB 1 workers are paid the prevailing wage , but their presence means the prevailing wage is less than it would be with less Visas available . An increase in wages could drive many more college students into the IT industry . Because of the annual limitation on Visas I like the HB 1 visa program , it brings great workers and people to America and is a targeted immigration program , but it is not without cost to American workers . I don ' t like the way outsourcing companies are fronting the majority of Visa Holders , another topic for another day . The 24 years educationalskill requirement is a strong barrier to entry in IT , but good middle income jobs need only a few months of nonacademic training to get started and the rest is on the job learning . After a couple of decades , still only 700 k HB 1 tech visa holders are in America , due to strict quota limits . There are no such limits with illegal immigration , or their American born offspring . In the trades , and service industries ambition and work ethic are the only barriers of entry . The impacts on low and middle income wages has been dramatic . Many , many economist have written on this , one example is attached below . found in 30 second search , much better studies are available , but I am s l e e p y a n d t h e a m e r i c a n w o r k e rreviewacademicliterature