How foolish of me not to notice . The presence of cars alone tells us that it couldn ' t be Detroit . Edit I don ' t actually have anything against Detroit and I think it ' s a fine city . I just couldn ' t resist the joke . <| sep |> I ' m with you . It ' s good if you ' re running in a team with multiples , I use it as my summoned 90 % of the time , but I also am usually running with guildies , and that makes a big difference . When I run solo I use air . <| sep |> i dont know . i got some cole haan wingtips a couple years ago for $ 199 ? i still wear them often at the office . i also have 2 AE park avenues , but those are for weddings and stuff . <| sep |> Anyone know whether these will work plugged in a PS 4 controller ? I see it has a mic with single button controller , which sounds a bit vague . I ' m looking at picking them up mainly for my stereo but would be a nice plus if I could use them for party chat while playing a game .