Is this list current ? Would be helpful to include last updated date . <| sep |> Anything can work for field and stream if your brave enough <| sep |> But the sweet green plant makes everything better . And I ' m fully excited to throw on my headset , love me some green and live the game . <| sep |> You are debating disingenuously here . I never claimed there was specific bullshit , but other posters have cited instances where victims and their families have crafted narratives that are not 100 % truthful in the past to make the victim look as good as possible . The idea that we must necessarily accept the victim ' s tale of how things went down as truthful is not using good judgement . Obviously we should distrust the cops version of events and for similar reasons we have to distrust the victim ' s versions of events . I mean , I don ' t know how many times I need to specify why there are motivations for her to lie before you can understand the concept of what I am saying here . No one has proven the truth for either side . Even if one side is caught in a lie that doesn ' t make the other side correct . The idea that we need proof that there is a lie before suspecting dishonesty doesn ' t make any sense when there is motive on both sides to not be truthful . You are attempting to skew my argument into something that it isn ' t . It ' s suspicion , not an accusation . Your entire premise was that her injury is proof enough to believe her .