ask the downvoted below . Friend . <| sep |> Just treat him like a toddler , or a dog . Tell him No . That is not acceptable behavior . Bad . Bad . Drop it . Droooop iiiit ! Or no dessert ! Drrrroooop iiiiit . Good boy . Who ' s a good boy ! <| sep |> She isn ' t ? <| sep |> I think you meant Ralph there buddy . <| sep |> Those prices have been like that for a while . Not exactly sure why it seems to be a random few , but worth noting Marc Jacobs beauty is owned by Kendo who are a division of LVMH Sephora parent company <| sep |> Does anyone have an opinion on how I know when I ' ll be ready for what they have to offer , I want to respect their wishes and come back when I ' m worthy <| sep |> I personally believe in accepting our habitsaddictions along with our powerlessness to changeI do too . That is the whole point of grace . i . e . a mindset that says if I could stop watching porn I would have by now this is for people that have tried to stop again and again and have failed and then giving up on trusting on our own strength to quit the habit and instead relying on God to do the work . Hmm , I think I may have misunderstood your initial statement then . Because what you are saying now sounds a lot like what I ' m saying as well . Though I do not know anything about Celebrate Recovery . I ' m generally against group therapy as a method to enforce moral compliance . Accountability groups I can see as having a way of making someone feel continually shameful because the continuous personal failure is repeatedly put in your face . If sex of any sort , including sexual stimulation , orgasm , etc is intended for marriage , then obviously masturbation is a HUGE shortcut . Scripture doesn ' t break it down like that . Actual sex with an actual person outside of marriage is called fornication . Sex which violates a marriage bond is called adultery . There are no other categories listed as far as I know . Masturbation or any form of solo sexual release doesn ' t fit into either of these categories . Furthermore , it ' s proven that long term lack of sexual release is harmful to the body and mind . Forcing one ' s self to refrain from sexual release also increases things like lust , sinful thoughts , and a heavy motivation temptation to commit actual adultery . Masturbation is an excellent vehicle to prevent these things while a person is forced to be without a marriage partner . It is lazy because You don ' t have to meet a person , date , get married , etc . The problem with your argument is the ambiguity . Let ' s assume that a person wanted to just use masturbation for the rest of their lives to avoid the responsibility of marriage . I ' d call that lazy and agree with you . But let ' s say that a person wants to be married , but due to circumstances , cannot . Is that lazy ? Your argument needs further qualifications , with the exception that some people cannot marry for whatever reason , be it temporary or permanent . But if you don ' t think sex is for marriage then you probably won ' t think masturbation is lazy . I do think that sex is for marriage , and I also think that many people , even Christians , will find themselves caught up in actual fornication when they cannot marry . Masturbation is a much preferrable alternative , though it does not solve the problem because it does not provide that critical element of intimacy which a marriage partner provides . For this reason , fornication is still a risk , but much , much less so . The psychological damage of being entirely without affection is also significant , and unfortunately , masturbation cannot solve it . But since , in my view , sex is for marriage , I believe masturbation is lazy . For those who choose not to marry . Not for those forced into singleness . Personally , I think the motivation to be intimate could be a great motivation to take action that could result in healthy intimacy . For example , if I ' m a young man and I want sex , I could go look up porn I could funnel that energy into school work , professional work , social interactions , and eventually find myself in a marriage Lord willing . Ideally , you ' d be correct . But sometimes , even years of earnest searching does not produce a marriage . And sometimes , one must wait until their life circumstances are such that they can actually take on a marriage partner responsibly before they should even look for one . This is especially true for young males who are in no position financially or psychologically to take a wife . But it is also true for many others who are forced into circumstancial hardship . Is it really that hard to get married ? It seems to me Christian women are generally willing to be married and that its us guys that want to put it off . ? You ' d be surprised . The world has changed in recent years . The vast majority of women are not marriage material . Permanently binding one ' s self to the wrong woman will destroy a man ' s life . This is a whole other topic worth discussing . From personal observation , the old adage , all the good ones are taken seems to be accurate . There is also no system for connecting quality Christian men and women together . There is no Christian version of Tinder , and the dating sites are woefully inadequate . There are no Christian singles clubs or other organized ways of helping these people find one another . It ' s pretty bleak out there right now . If you ' re a person that can ' t be celibate as scripture says then you should get married . The answer is not masturbation . The second statement does not follow the first . I agree with the first . In fact , 1 Corinthians 791 cor 7 % 3 A 9 versionNKJV literally says this . However , that does not mean a person should not use masturbation while they wait to be married . If prostitution isn ' t okay why is masturbation okay ? This is just silly on its face . Prostitution is fornication , literally . Maturbation isn ' t . The analogy does not follow . Are you saying guys should sleep with their girlfriends since you think it ' s so hard to get married ? No , obviously . That would be fornication . See my earlier arguments .