As a 50 year old . Just . <| sep |> Hey Oliver <| sep |> They will again go on sale during winter . But , both the games are pretty bland and boring . JC 3 is a bit better than FC 4 . because of explosions and stuff ! <| sep |> It isn ' t about the ethical values of war or no war . It ' s about the fact that any disturbance of peace destroys Sinbad ' s credibility , and the morality of his actions . War causes a lot of suffering , but Sinbad promised no suffering . So the argument well , there ' s no war now is inconsequential because Sinbad didn ' t say there ' ll be a little suffering but not a lot , he said no more pain . No war is just the only good thing that comes out of his actions , and even that ' s questionable if you assume that freedom is greater than a lot of peace but not really . It isn ' t confusing , it ' s the basic principle that the entire discussion stands on . Otherwise the manga would be over by now . If the only thing worth discussing or thinking about is well , there ' s no more war and that ' s the best thing ever regardless of the larger circumstances then shit , Sinbad ' s right . Let ' s go home Alibaba . then the comic would be over by now . But anyone who understands living as a human knows that ' s a piece of crap line of thinking . If you ' re confused by this then why are you even reading Magi in the first place ? You say that you understood my point , but again and again you ' ve proven not to understand it at all . Your last paragraph says as much , because , AGAIN , you equate my argument to mean that war isn ' t bad . And I ' ll state AGAIN that is NOT the case . I ' m sorry if I ' m curt , but you ' re really not getting what I ' m saying and it ' s really starting to annoy me . So I ' ll break it down very very simply . 1 What Sinbad offers is no suffering at the expense of freedom . Without the ability to decide for yourself , you are not responsible for any suffering caused by your actions . 2 Any suffering caused in the new world order by Sinbad is Sinbad ' s fault , since people have no free will . 3 War causes suffering , but it is not the ONLY cause of suffering . Only a great cause . This is the most important point , emphasis mine . My argument is , and has always been , that Sinbad ' s argument is that people won ' t suffer if he forces them all to work together and follow him . But suffering doesn ' t only come from war . Suffering comes from a lack of resources in the world . Even if we assume Sinbad is a perfect actor , and can broker fair and reasonable trade between all nations and all people forever , he cannot get rid of suffering because suffering isn ' t something any person Magi , beast , human , sage , wizard , djinn , god can control at least in the Magi universe . There will always be people who have less than others . Sinbad doesn ' t run a perfect goddamn communist state , he rules a global monarchy . Kougyoku ' s will was overwritten by Sinbad with his current act , much like what he did to her before . Just because she ' s not aware of his actions doesn ' t mean she would be ok with it if she was told about it suffering . Are we to assume that slaves living long and painful lives under Sinbad ' s rule is preferable to a violent but quick end in wartime ? Or the ability to rebel and gain freedom without Solomon ' s Will ? Under Sinbad ' s , logic apparently yes . Sinbad can ' t control the weather , so what happens if there ' s a drought , or famine ? Or if there ' s a plague ? What happens if two men are in love with the same woman and the woman chooses one of them , what if the man who was left behind and his suffering ? What about the children born with birth defects and illnesses they can ' t cure ? What about people attacked and killed by wild animals ? What about the fledgling mage turned down by the kingdom of magic who can ' t learn to use her powers properly ? What about the people who enter magi dungeons in the hopes of gaining fortune only to die ? What about people waylaid by pirates ? War has fuck all to do with any of that . We ' ve only seen one war , and it wasn ' t even that great of a war , with three armies showing up and everything being resolved in an afternoon . Hell , MOST of the suffering in the war over the kingdom of magic was caused by the racism of goddamn magicians sucking the life out of goi to turn into laser beams . Do I really have to explain this ? Sinbad did what he did because he thought he could end suffering , but he caused suffering between Alibaba and Morg at the start of all this . Even though it was small , a joke , and ended quickly , the fight between the couple was caused directly by Sinbad . Therefor , Sinbad ' s justice is cruel and unethical . He promised a peace that he can ' t deliver , only kindasortamaybe make not bad . And not even . I think you ' re making things much more confusing by trying to twist this into something about how war isn ' t bad since you can ' t argue with the fact that no free will makes Sinbad culpable for anything bad that happens . By misunderstanding my argument and assuming that it ' s this other stupid piece of shit nonlogic you ' ve thought up you can tilt against windmills . If you don ' t understand what I ' m talking about I suggest you read some Philosophy 101 and get back to me . Here ' s a good place to start ,