I love the show but the background laughter is annoying as fuck <| sep |> Muffins and crumpets . When it comes down to it that ' s all that matters . Muffins and crumpets . And tea . <| sep |> DRAT , DRAT AND TRIPLE DRAT <| sep |> For a step further in this insane direction , try the ImmersiveGameplay mod . <| sep |> Nah , as someone who lived on Svalbard , it ' s fine . Deaths are rare . Just bring a gun , fire warning shots if you see it , shoot it if it attacks , don ' t go walking far from the town , if you want a trip go on a snowmobile . They have warning systems if a polar bear comes into town . <| sep |> Yes , what the White says is absolutely true for humans . But the people of Mikado are not normal humans they ' ve been genetically and mentally altered by the Archangels , which is why they can be transformed into demons by strong negative emotions andor exposure to significant enough technological progress without the presence of the Archangels . The people of Mikado don ' t have free will like normal humans do , and without exposure to normal human behavior and thought patterns their utopia is confirmed by the ending narration to last forever . No , every shred of evidence , especially the White , prove otherwise . Furthermore , the genetic modification is literally an embodiment of Chaos . All said and done , Chaos is more likely to influence them once totalitarian pressure becomes too much . This is explicitly shown in SMTIV itself , no less . First of all , Godwin ' s Law ain ' t a great place to take a discussion , but to address that matter the comparison doesn ' t hold up . That genocide was committed based on an assumption of inferiority , while the genocide in SMTIV is done under the assumption of all lives being equal it ' s just that the number benefiting are infinitely larger than those who aren ' t . To use a better comparison , it ' s similar to murdering 10 people to give a utopia to 1000 , but even that comparison doesn ' t quite work since we ' re talking about an infinite number of people living in a utopia over an infinite amount of time . The point is that if we operate under the assumption that the lives of all people are equal , then it makes sense to side with the larger number that ' s the basis of utilitarianism . Though I ' d remind you I ' m not particularly fond of the SMTIV Law utopia since it ' s not what I ' d consider an ideal world . They murdered millions of Jews under the basis that Jews were corrupting their society through shady bank deals and preventing equality alongside the idea of racial superiority and cleansing impurities . It ' s exactly like SMT 4 ' s Law path . In fact , the end goal was the Third Reich lasting for as long as possible , usually 1000 years at least . The world the White show you isn ' t a Law world it ' s a world where the forces of Law largely succeeded over the forces of Chaos , but still didn ' t achieve their goal . The plan in that world was to annihilate all the remaining humans and repopulate the world with the new humans in the cocoons who were presumably altered like the people of Mikado Flynn arriving and interfering derails that plan . Also , the White are neither omniscient or trustworthy they ' re the literal embodiment of humanity ' s despair and thus are literally incapable of presenting things as anything but hopeless and nihilistic . 1 . It would have turned into a Chaos world with the cocoon people anyway . 2 . That is false . The White aren ' t the embodiment of despair . They ' re the first race of humans who became the embodiment of what humanity itself wishes for . The nihilism and despair are representative of humanity ' s secret feelings about itself on a multiverse level . The White aren ' t despair in the sense that they exist like that from the start , they became that way because humanity kept suppressing their nihilism . The Axiom is most certainly a part of the deciding factors , but the Goddess of Tokyo very clearly provided guidance alongside Stephen in order to identify people who could restore and protect the city of Tokyo , and that guidance is what led Flynn and Nanashi to become messiahs . The concept of them being a messiah isn ' t some kind of explicitly defined power it ' s just a designation of them being heroic figures trying to save the world in accordance with their own beliefs as an answer to the suffering of people within that world . So you didn ' t pay attention to the Bonds ending at all ? The Messiahs are chosen by the Axiom . The Goddess of Tokyo does absolutely nothing apart from giving hope to people . She doesn ' t appear to have any explicit powers , yes , but her guidance has most definitely given rise to two extremely powerful messiahs , so there ' s no reason to doubt she couldn ' t do that elsewhere . That ' s the Axiom . The Axiom granted the world those Messiahs . Goddess of Tokyo did nothing and has no powers beyond giving a sense of hope to people , and even then Flynn had to fillup the Chalice himself . No , but we have no reason to doubt that an asshole Nanashi would be opposed to killing any humans that directly opposed him or using humans as canon fodder to fight any gods and demons entering from other universes . Up to you . The humanity that ' ll be fighting will be the most powerful type of humanity with godly powers and a belief in individual responsibility for one ' s own actions .