Yeah I ' m not disagreeing with you that spez fucked up spectacularly and shot himself in the foot on this one I ' m just saying that it ' s still vastly more likely that someone just doesn ' t agree than it is that they ' re a plant and when they insist otherwise they ' re absolving themselves of any kind of motivation to examine their own arguments or positions and it makes me insane <| sep |> I will need to burn everything and move to another country . <| sep |> Ya there was just too many things going on that did not make this sound legit at all . Ugh when I got scammed those years ago I just fucking quit the game and stopped playing until madden 16 . I mean I lost like my best players worth quite of bit of coins , and those were players I pulled . And I had no coins saved so like my team was done