Remember that time when a bunch of subs shut themselves down to protest Pao ? Can we get something like that going for uspez ? <| sep |> You sound like every conor hater ever , but opposite . <| sep |> No , that ' s all for now . Thank you , Captain . I ' m sorry for my behavior earlier I just thought things would be . different here , somehow . I ' m pleasantly surprised . And hopefully , whoever I ' m working with , they can look past the helmet . I have my reasons for wearing it , but I assure you I do not sympathize with the Empire in any way . She hoped she ' d get cleared soon . She also hoped she hadn ' t made too poor of a first impression . <| sep |> Really beautiful photo , but that ' s a lily , not a tulip . <| sep |> I feel that this is a viewpoint many nontrans people have , but sometimes are less than willing to speak out about for fear of backlash , especially in many trans oriented spaces . I also get the feeling you ' re coming from a neutral and logical view , and not necessarily from bigotry and hostility , although realize that many trans people will rightfully interpret this at the latter . Our different views stem from different definitions of the same word gender . For you , and many others I ' m sure , the want to be a gender does not equal actually being of that gender . You argue that , as an analogy , a dog who thinks they ' re a cat isn ' t a cat . You also see gender as tied to sex if you ' re biological physiological sex is of a man , then your gender is male , and vice versa for females . For me , and most people here , gender does not have to correlate with natal sex . What you call the want to be a gender is our definition of a mismatch between gender identity and physical appearance based on sex . Your definition of gender is what arguably most people in gender binary countries hold . My definition of gender is more akin to the one found in sociology , and to cultures that do not conform to a binary system . Although fighting for a particular view is important , and I ' d argue that the former definition is an incomplete way of looking at the world , I think it ' s also important to step back occasionally and realize that both views are just trying to describe the same , objective reality . Also semirelated questions because I ' m curious 1 How would you view , say , nadleehi third gender people in Navajo culture in terms of gender andor sex ? 2 What do you think would be ideal for trans people as it applies to medical treatment ? Edited because bullet points are cool