yay oh well , guess i ' ll have to try finding a new one , thank you so much for the help though <| sep |> Testing spez this is the best sub ever <| sep |> It ' s been that bad for years . Even in source I fucking hated using it lol <| sep |> You ' re in a food comatose state . The only remedy is more food . <| sep |> The link doesn ' t work for me . <| sep |> Animal ethics presupposes a need for such ethics . If you a priori believe animals are individuals with the ability to think and therefore act with rationale then the answer would be no . But if animals are indeed lying on a spectrum from Descartes automata to an evolutionary model of some unique behavior that may classify it as somewhat intelligent as to require some care . In this way yes you could ethically eat the animal if it is killed somewhat humanly . Though that word suggests that we know how to kill gently . I ' m of the personal belief that ethics here is misplaced . It is more about human to human belief structures around pain and suffering than any intrinsic value the animals have as beings . It is clear though that a good steak has its own value .