Ahhhh makes sense <| sep |> How about Shell of a Man ? <| sep |> This , this is the issue . I ' m not even a tank or healer and I can tell you exactly what happens . Someone makes a group and immediately 415 dps apply . Some are ilvl 830 . Some are ilvl 870 . so , easy choice , take the highest ilvl for the smoothest run . No big deal . But people keep applying , more and more dps . It can say , tank only and dps still apply . Then get salty when they aren ' t invited . Whatever , their life . Their issue . But the idea of whispering 30 people to politely tell them that I declined them because their ilvl is too low , or I wanted a different class , or I just don ' t like their name . Man , that ' s opening the leader up to so much harassment it ' s not even funny . As a perfect example back in WoD I joined a heroic hfc pug that was about to start kromog 3 rd boss forgot his name . As I got there two people were kicked . While they were waiting for the 1 minute timer to port them out they kept asking , why did you kick us ? Now keep in mind I had literally just joined the raid . Hadn ' t done the previous bosses , but I ' m curious . I inspected them . They were both in lfr and pvp gear . And not very well itemized . And running specs that required high end gear to be viable sub rogue and ww monk . Plus they had pvp talents chosen . Being the naive bastard I am . I whispered one and said something along the lines of , hey , I just got here . I ' ve got no stake in the raid , but it looks like you ' re a little undergeared for heroic and don ' t have optimized talents for raiding . BOOM , my computer nearly blew up . I didn ' t know what I was talking about , it wasn ' t their fault their ilvl was so low . They deserved to be here . Who was I to tell them they were undergeared . At this point i had two charscters i had pugged into mythic hfc and was working on my thirs for heroic . I better invite them back . The one I whispered told his buddy and they both went off . This went on for about 5 minutes while I tried to explain you can ' t just skip normal hfc from lfr to heroic . And they just didn ' t get it . I had to put them on ignore before the pull . Suffice to say , being polite and helpful fucking sucked for me . So why would anyone put themselves out there like that ? People forget that this is a multiplayer game . And no one owes anyone their time in any way shape or form . I do not have to help you , and you are not owed a carry .