s The battle of TarValon in TAR couldn ' t happen unless Elayne made new copies of the twisted ring that worked because the users weren ' t mistyinsubstantial using them during the battle . And all the other sleepweavers fully functional or not caused you to be insubstantial , so the ring had to have been perfectedElayne ' s prior attempts at the twisted ring had failed because they were inexact , she mentions not being able to get all the colors right . Presumably this was likely a materials problem since the rebel Aes Sedai couldn ' t throw money and materials at her since they were broke and Elayne was only Accepted , but once she ' s in Andor and settled she has all the resources in the world . <| sep |> My friend told me . Is usually an excellent source of non biased accurate information . s