laughs Oh you were serious ? laughs harder <| sep |> Yeah it is he very essence of ' stooping to their level '<| sep |> Not directly answering your question , but I want to get this information out there 1 . The Engineering Ultimate itself is terrible . 2 . The Engineering Skill tree is generally the weakest of the three profession trees in terms of benefits gained on a nodetonode basis . 3 . Engineering captains in particular derive the least utility from the Engineering skill tree most nodes over Commander rank focus on increased subsystem power , and that ' s generally the last thing an Engineering captain will need , so there ' s a strong case to be made that Engineering captains can afford to invest lightest in the Engineering skill tree of the three careers .