I agree with you completely . Although I have an iPhone , an iPad , a MacBook Pro , and a desktop computer I spend 90 % of my time on my iPad . And my sister and my daughter both have eliminated computers from their device lists . These devices are all the computer that most users will ever need . <| sep |> I ' m good with all of of today ' s games going to OT . What about you guys ? <| sep |> As far as the others listed above , I also think he would not have liked their music . There ' s difference between being harmonically curious , exploring new realms of harmony , and making music atonal . I disagree here . The only way you could call Beethoven ' s music atonal is if you define the term very loosely . And then , if Beethoven ' s music is atonal , what are we to make of Prokofiev , Ligeti , and the contemporaries ? ! I argue that truly atonal music doesn ' t really come into play until the late 1800 s , although you could make the argument that its introduction had already been foreshadowed in the midRomantic works . Either way , both are far ahead of Beethoven ' s time . I would argue , instead , that much of what Beethoven did would fall under the category of being harmonically curious . Bach , in many respects , made at least equally radical explorations of harmony that are mostly on the same level as Beethoven one needs look no further than the second half of the Chromatic Fantasy and especially the final thematic section to see that .