Did you have enough sailors ? <| sep |> I usually get home at 9 pm from uni , then I have to do groceries , make dinner , eat it , and by that time it ' s usually 1030 already . There isn ' t really a chance for me to go to bed earlier than I already am right now . Yes I know it ' s self discipline , but it baffles me that I am able and highly motivated to read books 8 hours a day for university , and go to bed happy and motivated to wake up early and finish all my readings , and wake up groggy and in a comatoselike state that I can ' t escape out of . <| sep |> Dis Gon b gud <| sep |> Stay away from kickstarters if you ' re new to the hobby ! There ' s tons of board games you can buy with 0 waiting and 0 risk , so don ' t back a kickstarter game when you could just buy a game on amazon instead . It ' s also pretty rare for a kickstarter game to never hit retail these days . Don ' t kickstart it unless you really want it just as a collector ' s item . Apart from the stuff you mentioned , you might take a look at Krosmaster Arena or Krosmaster Quest if you want something coop . DungeonRPG style combat with a lot of depth and tactics . Not supercomplicated . Playing in teams is also a good option for larger groups . Also has a ridiculously massive number expansions for both maps and characters but don ' t be intimidated , it ' s fun with just the base set . Mice and Mystics seems like exactly kind of the thing you ' re looking for . Coop , has a campaign , combat with lots of enemies , RPG mechanics , and a nice story . Not too complicated , either . And it has expansions if you finish the campaign and want new stuff to fight .