But is there a competent list for these materials for those who are looking for specifics ? The wiki wasn ' t much help in this regard <| sep |> I have deal alerts setup on slickdeals and been looking here . That is about it . <| sep |> I think he ' s talking about when you add an upgrade to one of the categories and none of the attributes associated with that category actually raise in value . <| sep |> Do you think the sub is a person ? Because you talk as though it is . <| sep |> they are ! and they were relatively easy to make too ! <| sep |> Do they need to list every kind of damage that can be taken ? This is quite easy to test for yourself . <| sep |> I thought it was ME trial stings like salt on a wound like his trial by fire