Tbh ethinylestradiol isn ' t that bad . I ' ve been using it since I started hrt and it works pretty much fine . It ' s risky only for pep who are older than 40 I believe . It also has pretty good antigonadotropic effect , so antiandrogens may not be necessary . Yeah , estrogen levels can ' t be measured on it , but you can measure SHBG , and it should be elevated 300 nmollAlso estrogen isn ' t a pill that will magically make u all girly next morning , so be patient . <| sep |> Man this sub is full of dirty babies <| sep |> Better start using Sparky lol <| sep |> Because one branch ain ' t enough , and two is too low , it ' s me , Three Branch ! <| sep |> Whoaaaa , OMG wow , thanks a lot for telling me man ! EDITCan ' t purchase it , everytime I tried checking out with paypalmy credit card , it always says that there ' s an error with the billing address or whatnot Oh well