Not really , no . TBH a lot of games have much higher skill ceilings than DOTA does . Crap , chess has a higher skill ceiling , and it ' s a bajillion years old . <| sep |> Oh at all ! <| sep |> I think science has not gone too far enough ! <| sep |> Now ask Gruden about that onside kick . <| sep |> It ' s an entire experience unto itself . <| sep |> Unlike yourself I generally dont tell people how to play this game . I questioned the height of your horse and it just gets higher and higher . I ceded in the last post . <| sep |> The fact that they brought takeaway containers . BOUGHT containers . That ' s what ' s killing me . Those arent even repurposed takeout containers . They spent money on those containers with the intent of stealing food .