shouldNo normative statements please . Also the person you are responding to is wrong , it has nothing to do with being productive . It has to do with supply . If you want to be well off you need to train yourself to do something difficult because if not there will be a line out the door a mile long of people applying to those positions . <| sep |> I think Grandma ' s smart saying it was a joke . That way no one will ask her for any money . <| sep |> F 111 ' s while working EOR at Incirlik and B 1 ' s at Nellis as my row was close to the south EOR were just crazy loud . They ' d go into burner and hold brakes and the ground vibrated like crazy , we used to joke that we felt like those old metal vibrating hockey game things standing out there .