the tools have always existed . if anything it ' s less likely now as the spotlight is on them after this stupid thing <| sep |> What ' s the PS pro discount ? <| sep |> why not ? he ' s rich <| sep |> Is honky really a racial slur ? <| sep |> While I agree that all weed is amazing , this is very pretty . <| sep |> I hear ya . Mazak machines base price is one thing , but with all of the options you can stack up quick style . C and Y , programmable tailstock , load detection , air blast through coolant lines and some other goodies . Our 200 2 msy was 170 k installed with all of our options without riggers with one week of Mazak training for 2 people . And none of this takes into consideration the bar feeder we got from LNS or the tech support from them both to get the bf and lathe to talk to each other . This was 7 years ago so I don ' t imagine anything costs less .