OP is the type of person to fuck another man in the ass and not even have the goddamn common courtesy to give ~~ me ~~ him a reacharound . <| sep |> because you can ' t have a discussion about the games industry without sinking into vitriol <| sep |> Yeah , I dunno why they can ' t just take drugs like normal people , instead of trying to shape the world to the way they want it instead . You ' ve mentioned this before , but I don ' t understand it . Possibly because I live in the middle of nowhere and think most British towns are utter hellholes to be avoided no matter the colour or religion of their inhabitants . Is it just people leaving each other the hell alone , as tends to happen on the tube , or the hideous prospect of them actually Doing Things and Talking To Each Other ? I like liminal spaces where the rules change and people talk to each other because there ' s interesting things going on around them , rather than the idea of some sort of permanent community with regular rules that requires participation , but I ' m also aware that others think differently , so would welcome an insight . So , this is going to perhaps not sound appealing to you , but I ' ll give it a bash . It may even shed light on the UHN thing , me and utotallynotgwempeck have speculated somewhat about that . I ' ve tagged him because i may fuck up this explanation . For some people , the idea of being part of a collective sort of wider family is very reassuring , and makes them feel like they ' fit in ' or ' belong '. Events and shared traditions where people interact provide safe social spaces to get to know others , see the faces of people in their area so that there ' s a sense of familiarity when walking about and it ' s fairly easy to chat to people you meet . Essentially a community can provide both structure to people ' s lives in terms of values and events , and even expectations , and also positive feelings by involvement . It also helps support people who are lonely or struggling materially , at times . There are downsides , but i ' m mostly considering the appeal . Let ' s take a protoUHN , say , and instead of raising him in our current society , we raise him in a society where people are more involved in each other ' s lives . First effect you ' d notice is that he would be far better socialised because you have to be . So his social skills wouldn ' t suck quite so bad . Second of all , such societies tend to be involved either formally or informally in matchmaking our protoUHN is above all probably smart , and thus going to be an ok earner in all likelihood . He will probably be pushed none too subtly at a similarly retiring lass and seen as a good match . So our UHN is not allowed to sit on the sidelines of society getting angry , they are channeled into beneficial situations which left alone they would be too inept to manage . The thing about community cohesion is that it really isn ' t about race , at all . I know places with good cohesion with loads of black and asian folk , and places with crap cohesion full to bursting of white folk . But for some people in our society , I think it would be much , much better if general community was stronger . One downside depending on perspective might be communally held values are much harder to change , potentially , so you might find more social conservatism . Shirley , it ' s the opposite of brigading , because it moves the issue away , rather than bringing people in ? That ' s my point . probably so , but the use of ruleslawyering to harm those they dislike would probably occur , and the site admins don ' t really tend to hear cases so much as make snap decisions from what I hear .