In Canada where I ' m from it ' s a harvest thing . In America it has become adulterated with ideas of Natives and settlers joining in friendship , putting their differences aside , etc . There ' s also a pushback against that narrative which has recently overtaken the pilgrimnative narrative in my opinion which accuses the narrative of whitewashing what amount to war crimes , and emphasises the disintegration of native culture in the face of White oppression . <| sep |> Quite rare these days . They had a nasty habit of shocking the hell out of anyone who had 1 dropped one then 2 reversed the polarity on the plug . Source Grandpa . Then Dad . Then me . <| sep |> The reality is , shit happens . Antibiotics can make hormonal birth control not work . The pill and condoms can fail . Rape happens to people who arent on birth control . People get pregnant and then find out that their longterm partners are cheating and plan to leave them . And getting permanently fixed is very very difficult unless you already have kids or are older . So for those of us in our 20 s or 30 s with no kids will have one hell of a time getting them . Are we supposed to just suck it up if we get pregnant unintentionally ? How about married couples who are poor ? Are they not supposed to make love ? Lack of sex , in reality , affects most couples negatively just check out rincels or rdeadbedrooms for proof on that . Are people who are poor not supposed to have sex now because they couldnt afford a child if they needed one ? Like you said , even if they ' re on birth control , that can fail , so by your standards they should be celibate . Do you really want to have a child grow up with a parent who didnt want them because you care so much about people taking responsibility ? I don ' t agree with your convenience argument . A baby is not inconvenient and defining one that way tells me you believe abortion is a get out of jail free card , like children are a sentence . No child should be a burden . All children should be wanted and loved . The world would be a better place if all children were wanted and had happy childhoods . Further , having an abortion because you are too poor to support yourself and not to mention a child is not convenience . It ' s survival and knowing that when you do have kids you want them to grow up with enough food to eat . Having a child when you ' re not ready isn ' t convenience , it ' s knowing that you cannot give a child the love and support it needs anf that you ' re going to wait until you can . That is not convenience and minimizing people ' s major life decisions into a word like convenient shows a lack of empathy , for the parent and the potential baby . NO ONE likes abortion . It ' s not pretty , it ' s not fun people don ' t get abortions because they want them . They get them because they need them . I believe that all children deserve to be wanted , so we should allow abortion because the alternative is worse . I also dont believe that it ' s murder in the first place . A group of cells smaller than the top of your pinkie finger , with no sentience or feeling or thought , is not a life . Do you kill flies ? Do you use antibiotics or spray surfaces with antibacterial solution ? Those beings have more selfawareness than a fetus when most abortions are performed .