I like to say that the body can do three things when faced with a deficit 1 Make you ravenously hungry 2 Reduce your metabolism calories out 3 Use your body fat for fuel . Keto diet helps you jump directly to 3 without 1 or 2 . Other diets as mentioned can make you hungry 2 , but more importantly they can reduce your metabolism 3 which reduces calories out . Calories out is not something we can measure or control directly . So imo it ' s not particularly productive to focus narrowly on CICO when we don ' t know CO . <| sep |> What were you using ? <| sep |> Maybe they could buff the gather rate to be the same as hatchet but only when chopping the small trees , so it feels more macheteish . <| sep |> bring in both tight ends to block .