I just had a weird moment . I was driving along and I passed a van with Balmora Tanks on the side of it . OK , I looked again and it was Balmoral Tanks and presumably referred to central heating rather than mechanized warfare . Still , it did start me wondering is there any history of armored fighting vehicles in Tamriel ? There ' s Numidium and the events of Chimarvamidium hmm another idium . But has anyone experimented with tanks of some description . Just idly curious . <| sep |> THE CHEEEEEEEEEPS ALWAYS FALL FOR IT . GG EA RIP THEM OFF MORE ! <| sep |> I haven ' t read the book yet but until I get to , I did check out the brief of it on the web . True that it seems like a lot of what I view kind of old school social and other capital sc org ' s may be going away . I ' m definitely not an expert , but in my opinion a lot of those org ' s sprouted and thrived when towns and cities were much smaller essentially when it seemed everybody knew everybody . In my opinion , the advancement of social tech , urbanization , etc . Are significant factors causin sc decline , Honestly , when I hear of org ' s like the Lions , Kiwanis and other club , I think rural even though they may be active in all over the place . In addition , when an sc org knocks on my door for support , I rarely give any because I believe now and for good reason that my support won ' t be used for purposes stated in their sales pitch a few bad apples can really screw things up . My wife is a member of an sc org , and some of the back biting and other ego driven craziness she sees are turnoff ' s to me I know that ' s part of life but I personally don ' t want voluntarily be in that environment life ' s too short in my opinion . I ' d rather anonymously buy a meal for a homeless person instead . I hope sc doesn ' t die out but that it ' s capable of evolving to keep up with the inevitable increases in social diversification , technological advancements , etc . As I mentioned earlier , I ' m no expert . Thanks for bringing my attention to the book and the decline of sc !