white knighting at its finest <| sep |> Or maybe they didP <| sep |> Shotgun Academy , coming soon . <| sep |> I know the hive mind downvoted you but this is also the sub that shit on people who spent money on the game then changed their tune a few months later . Children man . So many children . <| sep |> happy black friday <| sep |> Many people will tell you that Elo Hell does not exist , but that is because they either do not understand what Elo Hell is , got super lucky and did not experience it , or are just elitist jerks . Elo Hell is not necessarily a low band . It is more complicated than that . It varies per person , you can hit it multiple times as your rating increases , and how long you are stuck depends partially on how fast you improve and partially on luck . Elo Hell is when you are better than the people you play with and against , but you are unable to leave that band of players due to circumstances beyond your control . Someone stuck at the top of Master who just can never quite move into Grandmaster is stuck in their own , personal Elo hell , but they are less likely to use that phrase because top of Master is not generally that hellish . Many people will dismiss this concept saying If you are really better , you will move up . Sure , on a long enough timeline , that is true . If you are better than the average person you will play withagainst both groups should be in the same pool of people , your higher skill will eventually push you higher , but there are two massive problems with that argument as it applies to the most people . First is that not every player is equal . You may get Hanzo mains , people who felt like trolling that day , your teammates may disconnect , a much higherlow Elo opponent because the matchmaker took too long and it decided to ease up on the fairness requirement , etc . If all 11 people who are not you were literally clones playing on the exact same computer in the exact same physical location , your individual skill level would matter a lot more . You need to remember that you are playing against humans and the same person will not even perform exactly the same in every game . All that variance and you have no control over who gets placed into your game . While you can somewhat correct for this by forming your own team , that requires you to know five people who are roughly the same skill level , have the same play times , get along well even when you lose , and are able to play mostall heroes to make sure you can counter the people you play against . Even if you do form your own group , you could still get screwed by a disconnect beyond anyone ' s control . The second problem is statistics . You are going to need thousands of games played for factors such as random disconnects to no longer be meaningful . 99 . 9 % of people are not going to play a large enough sample size of games for that to happen . Without that large sample size , you are at the mercy of luck . If you happen to get that attack Symmetra multiple games in a row , it is going to screw you for a long time . A smaller problem is that some heroes carry better than others . If you are the best Mercy in the world but somehow placed low , you are going to have a really rough time moving up . TLDR Elo Hell is not one specific band of rating . It is a very personal experience and very luckbased , unless you play thousands of games per season . Incidentally , you were extremely lucky to get no trolls in the Diamond band .