I think the Conservative movement has interpreted the limit as intercourse , which is at best cutting it close . Specifically with Orthodoxy I haven ' t seen what the limit is , but it ' s a safe bet than any contact is forbidden since that ' s the norm for nonmarried people of any gender combination . To answer your question about conversion , I ' m not an expert , but my guess would be that one would have to do a lot of convincing to their sponsoring rabbi and court for them to believe that they would remain celibate . By convincing I mean being celebrate preconversion for an extended period of time . Again this is my speculation . <| sep |> One of the main reasons a person is considered good is their control over movement and placement in gun fights . I don ' t know how you think that a 1 , 000 elo trials player and 1 , 600 trials player titan skate the same way , that ' s just simply not true . Feel free to express your opinion , I am just disagreeing with it based on a bunch of experience i have with destiny PvP .