Yes , do that <| sep |> I think it ' d be interesting to show a protagonist who ' s on a neutral side of things . <| sep |> So far , a couple million more <| sep |> I agree , quite disrespectful to say the least . <| sep |> You ' re arguing three different things at this point . You started off by arguing that he ' s not an elite player . Okay , that ' s a legitimate argument . You presented a few statistics and anecdotal arguments which to be fair , Joe also did , but to a more indepth extent . Then , in the same post , you argued he ' s not worth the contract . That ' s entirely separate . How much a player is paid to their skill , it is based on market conditions , the team ' s need for that player , and most importantly for younger players POTENTIAL . Here , you implicitly argue that he ' s not even that good . Which , I don ' t need to even prove myself , would get you laughed off rnba . If you wanna claim he ' s not elite . sure , fine . But you can ' t deny he ' s literally a part of every conversation of best centers in the league . If you even remotely paid attention to the pistons , you ' d know he doesn ' t have attitude issues , and he has done everything he can to improve FT %. which he has , by 12 % last time I checked ! Seriously . You post a 2 paragraph explanation that only provides a cursory review of the stats you present along with it . and then bash people who disagree with you , bash this sub , bash Joe . Take the fucking L man . Just cause you got 300 upvotes on rnba doesn ' t mean you ' re some hot shit .