Some of us have realized this for years now . Greg is an idiot and has been making bitcoin suffer needlessly . <| sep |> tfw papa is in the house <| sep |> So this really comes down to a question of Do the ends justify the means ? I am of the conviction that how you do something is just as important as what you accomplish . You obviously aren ' t . It ' s a very contentious debate that I doubt a comicbook will anwser <| sep |> Not for me , I ' ve left mine on the table for about 5 min sometimes when it was turned on . Still drift and shiftswimming . Have currently 3 units around , nothing seems to help me to get rid of it and I ' m sick of it . <| sep |> I was just about to check out <| sep |> So it seems like 1 . 13 . 1 still ships with puppet 3 . 8 . 5 and the enablepuppet 4 flag doesn ' t work right . So the series will be on installing with 3 . 8 . 5 and using puppetagent to perform upgrades after install