Or anyone with a stealy wheely . <| sep |> Yeah dude I understand how you feel . I graduated from high school and was like aww yeah no more bullshit ! Then they pop me in Chemistry , Calculus , Physics , and Gen eds for the entire first year tested out of all the entry level classes . Was really pissed the entire year too . Your situation may be different , but I have been hacking since I was in 7 th grade or so and I knew a good amount going into college it really sucked . What helped me with the math courses was I got a tutor for those courses and I took physics at a community college over the summer class was a complete joke . I am good at what I do which is reverse engineering , penetration testing , malware analysis , forensics , vulnerability research , etc . but I will never have an interest in mathematics or physics for the sake or mathematics or physics so I know how you feel . A lot of the math and physics classes I took was they literally told you to memorize formulas so I would say that I was learning script kitty calculus and script kitty physics since I had no idea how anything actually worked behind the scenes I might as well have been running python scripts without understanding how they worked . The college I go to at least the students don ' t give a shit about learning just drinking and fucking around playing video games and stupid shit like that . The university doesn ' t give a fuck about it as long as they get paid . I always wondered how people got by partying in college and still ended up getting jobs , but after doing an internship in a corporate environment I realized that you could teach a monkey to do what a lot of these people do . I ' m talking generic bureaucratic mindless monkey jobs like HR , account manager , sales , etc . The sad thing is I have met wonderful people who cannot get these jobs who work really hard , but could not afford to go to college and are stuck working shit jobs . Very smart emotionally mature individuals who really deserve better in life . But , the people with rich parents and degrees who spend four years drinking and graduate with some fucking joke liberal arts degree get those jobs . Being fairly isolated in high school spending most of my time in my room reading and hacking I must say I was very shocked when I went to college and realized how much bullshit and inefficiency there is in the world and how lazy and stupid a lot of people are drinking , gossiping , sex , they behave like fucking apes my god . Then the thing is college educated people are touted as being more sophisticated then your average working person . lol . some people have their heads so far up their asses I cannot help but chuckle . A lot of the courses which are gen eds and outside of the STEM field are like 50 % learning and 50 % professors pushing their own liberal political agendaphilosophies which I find annoying since I want to actually learn and learn how to think and not be indoctrinated by ideas , but for some reason people seem to tout this and call it being educated . Basically a college degree is like a passport which gets you past HR , but it really only scratches the surface , but it will give you a good background in computer organization , mathematics , etc . A lot people have jobs where they are just cogs in this giant machine really and that is what the education system conditions you to be . They don ' t REALLY care about developing critical thinking skills really it is just a lot of memorization from what I have done even in the more technical computer science classes . What they are training you to be is not an innovator , but a cog in the machine . I swear I have been team leaders for projects , a lot people don ' t know how to take initiative or make things happen for themselves . But , the thing is you need to do much more than that if you want to succeed . If you want to do pentesting , netsec , reversing , etc . do that ! If you want to get a job in that field do that whatever it is you want to do , but in your free time ! Read books , take classes , watch videos . Don ' t give up on your CS degree , get decents grades if you can A ' s and B ' s mostly with a few C ' s . I got a C in Calc II , but that is life my friend . I could have worked harder in the course and done better , but I really didn ' t give a shit especially since the teacher would tell us to memorize stuff for the test without explaining how any of the underlying mathematics actually worked . My advice for you would be to stay in school and be very focused . Learn whatever they want you to memorize for the test as fast as you can and get the homework done efficiently focus , dont procrastinate . Then put away your school work get out your laptop and start reading books on information security , generic IT stuff , whatever it is you want to learn for what you want to do in the netsec realmThe thing is nobody cares about whether or not you accomplish your goals or not in life . Everyone thinks they are entitled for money and shit without working for it . If you want to make things happen you have to do it yourself society and the education system are fucked up enough as it is . Your not helpless and if you work hard and are smart about what you are doing you can accomplish your goals . Don ' t be a victim in life that is not fun , either you accomplish your goals or you die trying . What I recommend you do is the followingGet some certs depending on what you want to do eCPPT , eWPT , OSCP , etc . Do Cyber Defense Competitions and CTF competitions I have been able to win several cyber defense competitions and it really helped me and my friends to network with employers and to show off our skills and get internships in information securityJoin your universities infosec club if they have one and give presentations and be active in that thats how I got a really cool internship doing penetration testing , DFIR , malware analysis , etc . Start a blog and github account and start coding useful tools , reverse engineering malware , finding vulnerabilities in sites and writing about them , etc . This is what I have been doing and it has been working out well for me so far . This should allow me to get an InfoSec job out of school since I have experience with a lot of IT stuff from learning on my own and also have internships in information security . There really is not shortage of jobs in the information security field , or at least that has been my impression from the internships I have done a lot of it is not really all that complex either as the security issues most companies face are pretty simple credential reuse , OWASP top 10 , unpatched software , spear phishing , really shitty physical security , very broad access controls , running executables off of public file shares , weak passwords on service accounts , service accounts with domain admin , hardcoded passwords in scripts in pubicly readable areas , MM security , etc . anyway . But , a lot of people don ' t know this stuff because they don ' t teach it in school so learning on your own gives you a huge advantage if you do . There is also a lot of bullshit in the information security field and plenty of companies are more than happy to sell you magic beans security software that literally doesn ' t do shit and charge you $ 30 , 000 dollars to run fucking nessus against your public facing IPs and export it as a PDF missing lots of issues in say web applications because they just ran automated scanners against those sites as well . I recommend staying in college as it is a good opportunity to network with employers . Hang out with some cool smart people and work on fun projects on the side outside of classes related to security . It also gives you time to develop important life skills like knowing how to eat healthy foods and work out since your not busy working all the time . This is something a lot of people don ' t do and trust me from doing internships in the corporate world I have seen a lot of people who have not been eating healthy and they lack energy , have healthy problems , their brain does not work as well they forget things , etc . I know how you feel I am on my second year of college right now and it is boring as hell . One other thing to look into is doing martial arts as if you are ever pissed about this kind of shit it is a fun way to relieve stress p . That , meditation , and working out are good ways to deal with that stupid shit that comes up being active also makes you more efficient and stops you from procrastinating as it drastically improves focus and really the best most innovative ideas I have had has not been at my desk , but when I am doing other things . I hope my insomnia has been useful for you I am home over break and can never sleep when I am home for some reason . Enjoy the rant ! It felt good to get some of my frustrations out on paper .