it can cause back problems <| sep |> thish shub <| sep |> I gotta hear how you pronounce Bernard and Arnold for this to make sense . Is it Barnard or Ernold ? <| sep |> Don ' t use ant hills as pillows my friend <| sep |> Everyone knows that Belgium is a made up place , your analogy has no meaning <| sep |> they had me at supporters <| sep |> The emotional or health impacts are in my opinion not moral objectionsTrue . They are rational objections . Rationality and morality in this case reinforce each other . Given particular goals and Bayesian epistemology eating trash is not a useful or logical way to live . If a vegan encounters a situation in which the investment has already made and will not be repeated as a result of the consumption , the suffering involved in eating the product is zero . This is what I tried to address in my second paragraph . Yes the nonhuman is already dead but consuming it anyway enables the exploitative industry . It lowers their costs of operations yes only in a small manner compared to the whole , no that doesn ' t make it more moral . It also gives legitimacy to the system making additional consumption through similar or other means more likely therefore increasing the chance more nonhumans get hurt which is immoral for obvious reasons . This is similar to the following hypothetical situation Your family calls to ask you over for dinner , it ' s gonna be lots of fun hopefully and they assure you that there will be vegan food . On arrival they say well vegan food just didn ' t make it today , but we ' ve made steak for you . Can ' t you just unvegan yourself for tonight ? In this case too the damage is done and food will go to waste if it is not eaten . But our lives are not a single moment . We have to take into account the indirect repercussions of our actions on top of the direct harm we causedo not cause . In one sense eating the steak is not wrong since it is already prepared and there is nothing you can do to change that and eating broccoli instead on top of the steak might kill earthworms . But this action will not cause a shift in the perceptions of others around you and they will very likely think everything is just a fad and make steak next time as well , and the dinner after that , etc . By choosing not to abandon animal products entirely it signals to others that it is apparently okay to consume this and nothing changes , eternal treblinka for the animals indeed . The same applies to trash meat and culled animals .