Looper was not a top 3 toplaner in China lmfao . <| sep |> Even the mildest predictions are that we are going to reach 10 billion within a few decades . We are already above a sustainable level and the numbers need to go down WAAAAYYYY down if we want to keep it sustainable . There s a biased view of conservatives trying to use false interpretations of statistics against population control . Population IS growing and HAS BEEN growing as far as we can remember . <| sep |> For $ 140 you could get Mikrotik ' s base CRS Switch 8 G 4 SIN which will give you the option of having fiber but you don ' t have to use it . I ' ve never put a CRS Switch into production . If you want to spend around $ 200 you could obtain a Netonix WISP Switch and have support for multiple PoE protocols as well . Used you can usually find a used Dell or HP switch for under $ 100 . I ' ve got one of the older Dell Switches circa 2006 in my office in a staging rack and it has 4 SFP ports and 24 gigabit ports . It was a freespare switch so we utilized it .