Watch the movie Clerks IIRC , the guy personally gets a $ 250 fine for selling cigarettes to a child . Actually it was his friend who was manning the register for him . I assume the law is no less lax with alcohol . That ' s the other think about the USA their incredibly vicious legal system . You can do years in jail for what would be minor crimes in Europe . USA has the most prisoners per capita in the world , and is right up there with paragons of justice like Saudi Arabia and China when it comes to executions . <| sep |> Do people ever read the FAQ ' s . <| sep |> Just like my father before me , haha ! <| sep |> Means nothing , two games against an entire career <| sep |> To use selfcontainment as a measuring tool for personhood , you cant then have nonfetuses who aren ' t self contained as well . There are cases of people with no brain activity , on a ventilator , not able to feed themselves , etc , waking up and continuing about their lives . Were they just not a person during their period of vegtablism ?