$ 485 delivered is a solid price . I can live with the lack of a rear sling swivel for that . says it comes with a magazine , so really all you need to be ready for the range besides ammo is a rear sight or optic of some kind . and that is par for the course on sub $ 500 AR 15 s . <| sep |> sorryi just wanted to make that clarification . it was not intended to offend or be obnoxious . <| sep |> Then they used the AIDS drugs to price fix and drive up the cost domestically for American AIDS patients . Wait that actually is pretty scary . <| sep |> My grammar was correct , re read . <| sep |> Yeah still is . <| sep |> If these cars jump over potholes , they would just hover down the streets of New Orleans . <| sep |> I second Teksavvy no issues other than a modem provisioning problem that customer service was able to handle quite quickly , been on them for 3 years now , only been down due to that bad provisioning once and that was during Shaw ' s upgrades to the system so more likely a Shaw issue than Teksavvy as it uses their infrastructure if cable