Well that explains why I get stomach pains and acne . <| sep |> It wasn ' t that bad it was interesting for me but L relies on logic and N pulled conclusions out of his out of his ass tbh <| sep |> No one is coming back for the ball <| sep |> Noooooo so many things wrong with that sentence . You have good one <| sep |> the black rock . <| sep |> Has anyone ever heard his questions in his native language , and seen if they are regular or still very long winded ? <| sep |> Technology has achieved more freedom for people than ever before . Certainly there is more surveillance than before , but people has never been so free neither . I would argue that we are no more free today than 10 years ago . Rather , we are less free . The internet was hard for the government to get a handle on but they are learning and they are persistent . The technology is also making it more feasible over time . A lot of information technology is made by people for the people , for their convenience . And when it is mass produced it becomes subject to big government . Right now , they don ' t put in too much draconian stuff but that ' s because they don ' t want to scare the populace . The elite are predators stalking their prey ever so slowly inching closer . Now that people are starting to realize that the technology is being used to spy on them , we are seeing pushes back everywhere if you open your eyes . The resistance is not much greater now than it was before . While surely snowden ' s leaks have helped the cause a lot the fact is that most people aren ' t willing to die on this hill . A lot of people are increasingly even coming out as antidemocratic wishing for a benevolent dictatorship to take all of their worries away as they come to terms with the harsh reality made plain by the internet . VPN achieves with extremely high convenience this to a degree , if you trust the VPN provider . . The government really doesn ' t need to see the internals of a network freenet and other closed networks excepted to deanonymize traffic . They need only look at the end point and starting point with advanced analytics software . This is software that is relatively recent and only getting better . By obfuscation I meant steganography over IP . In either case , this is all much less convenient than the open internet and requires periless precaution by users all of which can be subverted by cracking down on the tech or long term record keeping with automatic analysis software or simple OShardware level intrusion on private machines . I imagine that their software would observe networks of people and when a bad egg is found it would automatically determine whom in their network need also be searched based on the frequency , timing , and amount of data sent between them . Yet many countries the courts have decided IP is not an identifier of user . Guilt by association ? People will rise against that . Unless packets starts carrying a state issued UUID from biometric identity card , IP is useless to identify people apart from guesstimating . IP addresses have been used in court to this effect . Successfully even . They will certainly be enough to issue search warrants that upturn your life and if the media elite had their way it ' d be happening already . Only the most paranoid and careful users would be able to use local encryption to protect themselves assuming their hardware or OS didn ' t coopt them from the beginning . Sensible countries also require court proceedings before records of who was holding what IP can be revealed . Once again , quickly bypassed with VPN , Tor or Freenet . Surpassed with VPN ONLY because of international rivalry . Treaties are quickly encroaching on that as VPNs are forced to comply with local legislation . I haven ' t been able to use a VPN with true anonymity without resorting to actual crime stealing a credit cardcell phone for 5 years now . Tor is already heavily monitored and most users have been deanonymized due to weaknesses being exploited and the high amount of state controlled nodes . Additionally , private people can deanonymize IP addresses through doxing but that ' s not what I ' m worried about . The elite ultimately control the courts so they ' ll not hinder them very much . You seriously think something like that would be allowed to be passed on law ? You seriously over estimate the power malicious people have . Very few countries have the potential to get something like that through . Yet how many countries have or were ready to pass many laws that severely restrict your freedom ? What country can you possibly name whose momentum is against the surveillance state right now besides rogue states or subversive substates ? You will wind up in situation where 90 % of the people is flagged to use illegal encryption methods How so ? Very few people use anything other than popular software . Popular software will change to comply with the law . One needs to look no further than the close cooperation between facebook , google , twitter , and federal US agencies to see that . The most powerful digital companies have already fallen into line and the revised form of SOPA will be put into the books whether piecemeal or in one fell swoop . You do realize people have things to protect , and hence want privacy . Yes , but the closest you can come to making people understand digital privacy is john oliver ' s dick picks . All that , and south park comes down on you by explaining the reality that nobody gives a shit about you or what you ' re doing they only care about movements and what groups are doing . And they don ' t even need individuals to review the data to achieve that . How many people really care enough to put their own well being at risk by protesting and doing strikessit ins ? Not enough , I assure you . I mean , look at hong kong ' s insanely huge protests and what victories they have gained have been fleeting . And why do you think people are starting to hate the US ? I would be careful in thinking your country is somehow different than the US on this file . I can tell you that no australian or brit has considered themselves remotely as bad and the past decade has proven them both worse than the US . Canada and Germany are not much better . Russia , China , NK , SK etc are all far worse . I mean , where are you from that gives you so much confidence that the antifreedom lobby is not powerful , pervasive and gaining ground consistently ? And why do you think people are starting to hate the US ? SOPA failed , TPP is about to fail , and i expect TTIP to follow suit . SOPA failed because digital elites took a stand . TPP failed because of concerns over the environment and a weary population in democratic states . It was helped by individualists like trump and murdock elites who want to be kings in smaller kingdoms rather than richer in a united kingdom . However , these same elites are very delicate or egotistical . They ' ll support internet controls and collaboration internationally if it means they can get at the people saying nasty things about them . Digital freedom was rarely talked about outside of the technocrat circle when it came to TPP . When people realize what has happened is the final time when they will rise , if not sooner like with SOPA , ACTA . It may result in civil war however . People don ' t care enough about digital freedom to die for it .