you should be running tons of 1 mana spells so it shouldn ' t be hard to cast two on turn 2 . boggles is really hard to beat as mono blue delver if they are on the play . <| sep |> Yeah , its pretty cool , however you don ' t want them eating your Life Fruit plant , or all your farm I didn ' t at least . So much work taking care of them , and the zombies ate half of it on the first night ! I don ' t care about the tomatoes , but the rare plants . damn <| sep |> Posting to other subs . They want us contained here <| sep |> Same question here . I have Miller , Ware , RKelley and DLewis <| sep |> In general I am very probanning , antiexploits . However . let ' s try a thought experiment . It ' s next year , and a top guild is working through Nighthold and hit Gul ' dan . After a night of wipes the MT has to bail to take their partner to the hospital they shuffle the raid team around and bring in a brewmaster . Expecting the worst they find that . Gul ' dan doesn ' t use a lot of his abilities against brewmaster tanks . Apparently BrM tanks are so rare that Bliz forgot to even test the fight with one . So . now what ? Can the guild keep going with their easymode BrM tank ? They don ' t really have another appropriate geared tank without losing too much DPS . Do they have to just abandon attempts until the regular MT gets back from the hospital ? If they get the kill , have they exploited ? Should they be banned ? My answer is Yes they should keep going , and if they get the kill they haven ' t exploited and they shouldn ' t be banned . I think there ' s a difference between inadvertently hitting a bug , and purposefully exploiting a bug . And for me the difference comes down to whether the strategy would be viable without the bug . Think back to LK 25 H . Saronite Bombs did very weak damage nobody actually believes Ensidia had their entire raid team switch to engineering and power level it for the DPS gain . They did it because they wanted to exploit the interaction between the bombs and the platform , and if the bug hadn ' t existed they would never have done that , nor would their spam bomb strat have actually worked . But in our hypothetical Gul ' dan example , the use the best tank you ' ve got strat is viable , it wasn ' t chosen because of the bug , and it would be used even if the bug didn ' t exist . I think that matters . And in the actual ToV case From Scratch and Exorsus were trying to use totally viable strategy against Helya . It was an obvious strategy to try since it had featured in the strats for the immediate prior difficult progression endboss , it was totally viable , and it would work without the bug . Consider this In 8 days , From Scratch and Exorsus will be unbanned , and they ' re going to send the same team of raiders in , follow the same strats against an unbugged Helya , and get the kill again . I recognize this is a difficult judgement call , and that reasonable minds may disagree . But I think From Scratch and Exorsus got completely screwed over here . I believe that there is a clear distinction between ToV and LK 25 H , and that Blizzard erred in suspending them . Even if Bliz is trying for a stricter enforcement policy and I think they should this was the wrong test case . TLDR If you break the encounter , you fucked up and should be banned . If the encounter is broken by design , Blizzard fucked up . This was a Blizzard fuck up .