Loopers or Lightning wheels for a key . <| sep |> Hey thank you so much ! Have a happy thanksgiving if you ' re in the states ! <| sep |> Can you quantify how much ass they ' re actually hauling here ? <| sep |> Not really . Kakuna has much higher defense , but slightly lower attack . The evolved Kakuna could probably beat the Weedle . But CP is calculated to weigh attack more heavily , because . I don ' t know , because attack is shinier ? So the CP system makes it look like weedle would win . Even though he wouldn ' t . <| sep |> Shhhh don ' t bring Plan C into this too it ' s totally not worth the exotic slot <| sep |> I disagree , trinkets have a huge impact , and can account for several percent of a character ' s DPS . It makes way more sense to say if I had X legendary we would ' ve killed boss than to say if my trinket was titanforged we would ' ve killed the boss . But what about if I had X trinket or if our tank had X trinket ? While we don ' t have them yet , set bonuses in the past have been incredibly impactful I ' ve read stories of players in WoD going almost the entire BRF tier without getting their 4 set despite clearing weekly . Also legendaries are guaranteed due to pity timer , it ' s just that the legendary you get is random . This is a bit more of a fair point , but again I do need to point out that these bosses are not tuned expecting players to have 2 legendaires , much less the two best ones . More importantly , if you ' re trying to win people over on this argument , telling we were denied this boss kill because I got the wrong legendary is not a great way to do it , IMO .