It also helps to cover up the smell of shit . <| sep |> I aaw people doing it before i quit . Though i don ' t play anymore . <| sep |> What part of option did you not understand ? <| sep |> By not paying them , and moving money around . <| sep |> What we really need is a big quad HD arrow going across the banner into a knee <| sep |> Looks like a font size issue . <| sep |> Haha this is exactly why I posted . friend of mine was driving me around and started changing from shoes to slippers while going 30 kmh ! <| sep |> I ' d say yes . I normally put winters on my rides anyway even if I don ' t really drive in snow storms , since I have to take the great winter parking lot 401 . I also used to teach winter driving , performance ice driving and offroading as a part time job when I was a teen . Why yes ? Well having experienced the relaxed winters in the GTA where there ' s hardly any real snow and seeing how inept drivers are even when the roads aren ' t terrible . Forcing them to have pure winters will give them better braking ability on coldwet surfaces and maybe not run into a wall because they hit a patch of slush . The advantages of softer compounds start at 7 degrees , which most of our winters are below that . There ' s also the odd people who can ' t move forward to save their lives when the light turns green if there ' s some snow on the ground . I don ' t think people really understand how a car works at its basic levels . That thin layer of rubber is what ' s basically keeping you alive and in control . If you can ' t afford the winter tires , maybe you bought a car that ' s out of your league 17 min wheels for big brakes or large SUV tires , etc . or maybe it ' s time to think about the whole driving situation . Having said the above , our insurance rates in Ontario are frustratingly high and the 5 % discount won ' t do much for those having to pay 18 % interest on winter tires credit card vs paying cash . It should be a legal mandate to have winter tires but the government should also force the insurance to give a 15 to 20 % discount on rates , that will pay for your tires in 2 to 3 years . I ' d like to add an idea of segregated driver ' s permits , a summer and winter license . You need winter training to obtain the winter permit . I say this because winter tires won ' t help bad drivers at all . I see it more often than not some person going 30 kmh taking up TWO lanes , scared to death and you could safely travel 50 or even the speed limit of 60 . There ' s also the over confident driver that takes a hard lesson in physics from time to time . It ' s not easy to drive out here in the GTA even if our roads are pretty good , coming from Quebec , I find it funny , frightening and frustrating seeing how it goes in the GTA . Heck , even a wet 401 can make my commute go from a 30 minutes to a little over an hour Either way , stay safe and play nice on our roads Cheers !