Wasn ' t feeling the hook <| sep |> That ' s entirely reasonable , actually . Sorry to interrupt that . Have a nice , shitpost filled Thanksgiving . <| sep |> So imagine the population of Alabama as dogs . <| sep |> I ' d allow it . Perhaps the goliath can ' t speak , or is a voodo zombie of sorts . So the gnome is the sentient mind , while the goliath is the loyal servant . <| sep |> Well then certainly not in the finances at the moment . Which is fine because I don ' t have a VR tool anyways . <| sep |> I had a Rebel v 2 . It was the most comfortable fullsized 20 disc bag that I tried on I also tried on a Grip AX , a DD Ranger , and a Lat 64 Luxury bag . It was relatively light , rode well on my back , and had plenty of storage . That being said , I traded down to a Shift v 4 , and haven ' t looked back . I carry 16 discs in it , which is plenty for me the 2223 I was carrying in the Rebel was overkill . The layout is so intuitive , and as others have mentioned , it is surprisingly useful to be able to see at a glance that all my discs are accounted for . There is adequate storage space below the interior vertical slots . The one thing I thought might be an annoyance , the single water bottle holder , has turned out to be a nonissue . I can easily fit a 48 oz . Nalgene , which is more than enough for me . And with the bottle holder in use , the bag is quite stable it can be prone to tipping if the bottle holder is empty . Most important the bag is INSANELY comfortable . I have had chronic back issues for years , so I am particularly sensitive to this the Rebel was good , but the Shift has no comparison . If you play a lot of allday tournaments or multiround days , the Rebel is a great option , since the storage advantage is significant . But if comfort is the most important factor for you , as it is for me , get the Shift .