I ' m surprised no players took a knee Becuase they were getting tired of standing . <| sep |> Couple of things I want to addressPlayer is actually role playing very decently and GM just ignores CHA score in favor of better story . This is entirely wrong by what you ' re inferring here , which is roleplaying very decently means ignoring the stats that represent your character . To put this into context you ' d laugh at someone roleplaying as if their character was immensely strong when their STR score was 6 , and there ' s no way you or any other GM would ignore STR in favour of a better story . If the player has a lowCHA character , and yet the GM is ignoring this for what you ' re calling a better story , well is it ? Because a story is supposed to follow characters , not the players playing the characters , which is what is happening when the GM ignores the characterrepresentation in favour of the player . IE that ' s favouritism . Now , I want you to think hard on a time when you ' ve met anyone who has said , gee , I ' m really in favour of a GM playing favourites with us players . Chances are , you haven ' t ever heard this , or anything similar , unless said sarcastically . Strangely enough , this caused lots of disagreement and misunderstanding , especially by players that don ' t participate in dialogues at all . Some even argue that it ' s not fair to let people who play charismatic characters have their way without spending stats on this side of character . I think that when you do this , you ' re cutting out an element of the character . Roll vs role playing aside , charisma and its variations are a representation of the character , so if you take that away , you ' re making the character less than what they were . And while those players shouldn ' t be reaping the benefits of things they don ' t use , and even though they aren ' t participating in dialogues and apparently in your opinion are people would should not be complaining their point is still especially valid . More about why they shouldn ' t be reaping the benefits of things they don ' t use if they aren ' t participating in a dialogue , then they shouldn ' t have the opportunity to roll a charismabased skill . This is the case for every other skill or test if their character isn ' t going over to lift the gate , then they wouldn ' t be making a strength check . Really , and I think this is your fault here if you ' re a GM and your players don ' t understand that not every skill is the same . In order to use a charismalinked skill or ability , they need to actually say something or perform the appropriate action beforehand . Now , their ability to string together a sentence may be lacking , but any effort they put forth is better than no effort , which should net them a roll of the die . However , like cleverness in the use of other skills and abilities should be rewarded , so too should good speakers , or speakers playing their characters ' appropriate charisma . In the former case , a good speaker might be rewarded with a circumstance bonus to the roll , whereas in the latter case , a player RPing the characters ' appropriate charisma score should be rewarded with exp , because in both cases , the player is going above and beyond the minimum requirement and adding to the game in different ways . However , unlike my initial disagreement with your point above , in the one case the GM isn ' t ignoring the characters ' charisma , they ' re just adapting to the circumstance .