When family talk to me about the labels that the world uses to identify them I often use the same logic back to highlight that they shouldn ' t be Christian . They will claim they are but then when I ask them if they are willing to accept the Christian statistic for teen pregnancy . Or suicide . Or family size . Or political affinity to a cause . They always want to know how LDS church statistics is outside of the larger Christiandom . So I agree purely on the concept that they break themselves out of the Christian larger group when pushed . You don ' t even have to discuss doctrines like trinity Vs godhead , heavenly mother , and creeds . <| sep |> I ' m trying to use this 20 % sale but idk when it goes lives because it ' s currently 112416 957 AM and everything is still same price