Cool , thanks a lot for your help ! <| sep |> Totally agree . Have used protein shakes 13 times a day for almost 20 years and hands down ON is my favorite . Great taste , good nutritional stats , winwin . French vanilla probably my favorite . For casein I like Muscletech milk chocolate . <| sep |> I saw that coming <| sep |> Would be nice if we could stop them on 3 rd down . <| sep |> You realize people get silenced for picking the wrong heroes in hots as well ? And yeah see the other response . <| sep |> so lebron has completed 13 full seasons , when comparing both of these guys first 13 seasons , lebron actually scored more per game , and scored with more efficiency . so lebrons actually a better scorer . Its a huge fallacycognative bias that Kobe is a better scorer . Furthermore , hes a way better passer and a smarter player , and a better defender . Lebron dragged a team with meh players to 66 wins , whereas kobes team with scrub players won 34 , 45 , and 42 games . Lebron has never lost more than 35 games a season and that was his rookie year . After his first 2 seasons when he was 19 and 20 , he won less than 50 games once . and his cavs teams sucked . All advanced stats point lebron ' s way . Among smart people that follow basketball closely writers , analysts , smart fans , its no debate at all . Its kind of the same for messi and Ronaldo . Messi pretty much usually scores similar to ronaldo , and possibly a bit more , and takes less shots . Then you factor in that messi is a better passer , and his involvement in games is much greater . Its really not even a debate