Replace in this paragraph the words Vicki with Tamra discussing Tamra ' s constant belittling of Gretchen , Alexis , Jeana , Slade Vicki this might as well be the reason I stopped watching this show for 4 years straight . I only started watching again this year because of the huge cast change I hated Alexis Gretchen , but it seems the only constant throughout this series is Tamra ' s stupid instigating loud mouth . At least Vicki came off somewhat sane during at least 1 season the past few years . It ' s so strange to see this all go down like this , though . I feel like people who have stayed with the show watched it in real time seem to forget some of the subtle bullshit that happens . I ' ve noticed it with RHOBH , too . Maybe because I just blazed through 4 seasons of OC in the past 4 months , some of the more awful nonVicki related situations are just more fresh in my mind . One of the most reprehensible things I notice about this franchise is that Tamra uses people ' s children every single season as a deflection tool . Gretchen ' s fiance ' s kids allegedly hated Gretchen , according to Tamra . Alexis was a bad mother her kids stroller rolled into a pool . Slade ' s child support issues . Using Vicki ' s daughter as a weapon against Vicki in arguments . Didn ' t Tamra say something terrible about Lizzie ' s parenting , too ? As we saw on this season , if people even remotely attempt to use Tamra ' s kids as a story line the way that Tamra does to them , she loses her effing mind . It ' s really gross not even remotely interesting to watch . I ' d rather watch Vicki be a horrible person in her own right than see Tamra dragging people ' s kids through the mud every season , but clearly as I ' ve noticed on these forums . that ' s just me