I wish those bakelite slants were still available . <| sep |> Dude I realise that you can bash buildings if the permissions allow you too but what I ' m saying is that hashirama on the Zurrgle account did not have the permissions to bash the buildings in the first place . The account you show the screenshot from Fantoom that you use as proof that the Kratos permissions were set incorrectly in your other Evidence Horden implies are fake or atleast not from the same time period as it showed permissions which were not options for the deed at the time . Therefore any evidence that you have that what Hashirama did is legitimate is worth nothing at all to me . You say he countered with evidence that is valid however if it was so valid why are the GMs calling his evidence lies and simply denying his claims that he performed some actions such as bashing buildings ? From my understanding of it , Hashirama only avoided a perma ban when we was playing by selling his accounts I don ' t know how many alts he had and whether the GM staff knew about any of them but it seems as though they waited until they had 100 % knowledge that Hashirama was back before banning any accounts . If they didn ' t know Hashirama had any accounts , how could they ban them ? Where have the staff stated that hashirama didn ' t use a bug to steal from kratos ? Even if this is the case then it was stated from the beginning that his ban wasn ' t ONLY because of the Kratos ban anyway so it really bares little relevance anyway . Hahaha I ' m glad I could give you a laugh anyway , I enjoy being able to entertain people . Please stop being so mad at things that are both out of your knowledge and out of your control , you ' ll be alot happier if you do .