You check the swords after completing the action , which would include resolving the effects of failing the quest . I ' d say you lose due to siege engines before you win due to swords <| sep |> pretty sure you can kill oghren if his approval is low enough and you confront him at the camp , you even get an extra dialogue option when you meet him in Awakening asking why he ' s alive or something like that , he just tells you he woke up naked later that day and all that he remembers is that the warden tried to kill him even if you choped his head off . also , you can kill shale if you side with brankaand you can kill morrigan too in the witch hunt dlc <| sep |> They ' re talking about their race . <| sep |> This is probably the most single important point . The Germans accepted defeat , moved on and now have an incredibly prosperous country . The Palestinians have kept up their delusions for 100 years . And now their entire nation is nothing but a steaming pile of shit . Who made the right choice ?