I ' m arguing semantics if you haven ' t noticed you fucking retard . <| sep |> That ' s possible ? OOh my god . That giant spider in VR mode . i ' d die . <| sep |> The major problem I have with this argument is that it assumes all events require a cause . Though everything we see on earth has a cause it is fallacious to assume all things , especially the beginning of the universe have a cause . You are misunderstanding the argument , which is sad because I told you during and before this argument that we ' re not dealing with temporal causation a cause that happened prior in time such as a before the big bang but a constant , sustaining causation . This goes on and on to infinity because the assumption that all things have causes necessitates an infinite line of causes or an initial causeAs we ' re dealing with a constant , sustaining causation each line of causation we ' re examining is one that is within a single moment in time . It ' s an immediate but still essentially ordered line of causation . In such a case as thing there must be a first cause within that moment so to trigger the chain . Being infinite is not an answer as it fails to address the problem altogether and being mutual is both against our understanding of reality and is not logically sound as it would require selective selfcausation and ultimately be special pleading in essence . and as we do not know the nature of this cause or chain of causes , it would be absurd to assume that such cause is a god of any kind without having evidence to suggest that . The end of this argument isn ' t God , it is pure actuality . In its original Latin it would be Actus Purus . Did you even read what I presented to you ? Aquinas Five Ways only gives the answer of god at the end in abbreviated versions . In the arguments in full , each ' way ' gives a specific result that is then examined for logically necessary attributes . After that , a proof is given to how all five results must be speaking of the same thing and how this thing is synonymous with , and rightly deserves the title of , God . This is not immediately connecting it to Christian history at all , however .