My whole family is TBM and this doesn ' t reflect them at all thankfully . We normally start with the pie and EVERYBODY helps . Because of this my extended family 6 parental siblings and kids about 50 people end up with close to a hundred pies , 6 turkeys , 2 hams , and a whole lot of mashed and sweet potatoes . Mmmhmmm ! <| sep |> Hey man I had to look up the guy you mentioned but yeah its totally possible to get that type of physique without using roids . See many old timers that are natty who have been lifting for like 10 years , have good bodies as long as they took care of their diet . I ' m 6 ft and like 175180 . The thing about roids is most of them push you to your potential alot more quickly and if you continue to use them , they can push you over your limit . But I ' d say keep working it , making sure your eating enough foods and the right foods to make those gains bro . Also maybe post a pic for reference ? Cause your build might be a little different , everyone ' s is .