They already swore vengeance against the orcs leader after he kicked their ass . The way orcs work in my setting is that they ' re tribal and nomadic , but once a generation they ' re united by a warlord who leads them to war . Their goal is to kill the warlord , and convince the orcs to go home , wars over . Trying to pivot them to negotiations would be taking away player agency . They ' re seeking a portal to shadowfel , so that ' s where they ' re going . <| sep |> My brother can ' t stand them . Even more so that I spent time actually coming up with them . <| sep |> Not over yet . Better get it back quick tho <| sep |> ERROR 402 REASONS NOT FOUND <| sep |> What are you talking about ? The only knowledge that has changed was that we weren ' t sure dmo wasn ' t accepting any offer . Now all of a sudden we are sure that he ' s not accepting anything and they start changing their opinion . That ' s what a debate is , stating your opinion . I used all the information that I had to make an opinion and now people are starting to open their eyes . Just cause you fake , it doesn ' t mean that you have to start insulting me about me basing my opinion without some knowledge that didn ' t even change .