At first I was like , uh alright you fuckin party pooper ? And then I saw your name lmao . Upvoted <| sep |> That ' s a great victory story . Keep fighting the good fight ! I don ' t personally know you , ' pede , but I ' m proud of you ! Happy Thanksgiving , friend . <| sep |> I ' m not saying that USWestern interventions are a good thing I ' m just saying that the interventions may have other reasons aside from resource extraction . I am not saying that those reasons are good . Gaddafi was massacring his own countrymen some of them , at least , those who wanted him gone . It was a civil war . So , yes , he did provide better living conditions than the current state of Libya , after the tragic and unneeded disintegration . Yes , the USWestern intervention was a mistake Hillary , or Kerry , as well as Hollande and Obama and the other leaders presiding over the intervention are culpable for the complete and utter shitshow of horrors that came forth from their halfassed cowboy adventurism . But that doesn ' t make Gaddafi a saint , that doesn ' t mean cherubs are hovering around him singing Holy ! Holy ! Holy ! Saddam provided better conditions for people in Iraq than the US occupation did , postSaddam Iraq was a nightmare . The US invasion was unjustified and wrong . But that doesn ' t mean Saddam is not a monster , as in the past he used nerve gas on Kurds and Iranians and yes , the nerve gas ingredients were sourced from the West , the targeting information was probably sourced by Western intelligence , and the US and the UK did block UN condemnation of the chemical weapon use during the 1980 s IranIraq war . . The undeniable truth of WesternUS hypocrisy doesn ' t mean dictators like Qadaffi or Saddam are nice people .