I played him <| sep |> Both are great alliancesAlso check out rblacksharkcult to connect with another cal mil group <| sep |> K just clarifying <| sep |> So to my understanding , no one can see Savitar but people connected to the speed force ? Then how come Joe West , Iris , Caitlin , Cisco , HR see the lightning in the security footage of Rivals death . if he did die . <| sep |> Greinke had his worst season in a decade and Miller had his worst season of his career Yea he was awful last year but he was an AllStar in 2015 , he ' s looking like a textbook Comeback Player of the Year nominee . If they can both bounce back and Ray Bradley Walker can all improve it ' s a real solid rotation . Another fun part of it is that outside of Greinke , all the SP ' s are 24 through 26 years old . Edit Also to be clear they will be # 1 , that ' ll be Cubs , Nats , or Mets again . But they could be a Top 5 if everything goes right .