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European travellers warned they may have to self-isolate in UK
People vaccinated in an EU or Schengen zone country are being warned that they may have to self-isolate if they travel to the UK, since the British contact tracing service does not recognise them as being fully vaccinated.
Published: 25 October 2021 11:49 CEST
Updated: 26 October 2021 09:35 CEST
Arrivals in the UK should know about self-isolation rules. Photo: Ben Fathers/AFP
After initially refusing to recognise any Covid vaccine administered outside the UK, the British government now counts as 'fully vaccinated' for travel purposes people who had both doses of the vaccine in an EU or Schengen zone country.
That means that those fully vaccinated can enter the country without having to quarantine.
However, once in the country, if they are alerted by the Test and Trace service as a contact case, they will have to self-isolate for 10 days.
Fully-vaccinated people are exempt from the requirement to self-isolate if a contact case – but this only applies to people who received their vaccines in the UK. The Test and Trace programme refuses to recognise any vaccines administered outside the UK, meaning that anyone vaccinated in the EU faces a 10-day self-isolation period. The ten days are counted from the time of contact with the person who tested positive.
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The Local asked the Department for Transport how they could justify the different treatment of people who had received the exact same vaccines in different countries and were told: "If a person has been vaccinated abroad they are required to self-isolate if they test positive or have been identified as a close contact of someone who has tested positive, even if they have received a vaccine equivalent to those approved by the MHRA for use in the UK.
"Our domestic verification process currently only recognises the vaccination status of individuals who received their vaccine in the UK. We continue to keep this under review."
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The UK government rules also state that anyone who has Covid symptoms should self isolate for 10 days, unless they have had a negative Covid test. This applies to everyone, including people who were fully vaccinated in the UK or abroad.
Self-isolation can be done at a private address if you are staying with family or friends, but those staying in hotels or Airbnb face having to extend their stay and rearrange transport home while they complete their 10-day self-isolation.
New cases in the UK are currently running at an average of about 50,000 – by far the highest in western Europe – so coming into contact with an infected person while on a visit to the UK is not unlikely.
Although most people vaccinated in Europe can now travel to the UK without having to quarantine on arrival, the UK government does not recognise people who had a single dose after previously recovering from Covid – which is standard policy in many European countries – so people with this option will still have to quarantine.
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Find more detail of the UK Test and Trace rules here.
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Rob - 25 October 2021 at 15:10 CEST
Bit of a cheek that considering the state of play on Plague Island…
bumpsies_60dee4b62eafc - 30 October 2021 at 08:55 CEST
I was contacted by the Track and trace in September, just said I had been vaccinated (I didn't tell them where ) and that was it.
paulbains7 - 30 October 2021 at 21:03 CEST
Well that's good to know!
gordonjbarnes - 25 October 2021 at 15:33 CEST
This happened to me at the end of September. There is no need to isolate on arrival if you are fully vaccinated but if you are identified as being in contact with someone (e.g. on the flight to the UK) then you have to isolate until the 10th day after contact. Those vaccinated in the UK don't need to isolate, just non-UK vaccinated. I didn't have to isolate until the 6th day there when I was contacted by the NHS Track and Trace. Schrödinger's Vaccinated.
E.Rothsky - 25 October 2021 at 16:05 CEST
What the actual f**k is this about. Someone explain it to me like I'm 5.
Rebecca - 25 October 2021 at 17:31 CEST
My first reaction, as someone who has London reservations for early December, was that this was bullsh*t. But, come to think, if I were notified in France that I'd been in contact with an infected person here, I'd probably be inclined to self-isolate even though I'm vaccinated. Given the much higher likelihood of that happening in the UK, with its much higher infection rate … well, I've been considering cancelling my trip anyway, and this may cinch it. Tough luck, London hotels and concert halls.
Pat - 25 October 2021 at 23:51 CEST
Is this actually across the whole UK, or is it true only for England? My daughter lives & was vaccinated in Scotland & she has told me she had to self-isolate when Track & Trace identified her as a contact case.
I know it's hard to keep up with all the details but 'UK' is so often used as a proxy for England when the devolved governments are often following different policies.
Chris Ley-Wilson - 26 October 2021 at 16:50 CEST
So "Track and Trace" recognises only English (or is it UKGBNI?) vaccinations, presumably including non-Brits worldwide who have been vaccinated in England (or is it UKGBNI?). Will "Track and Trace" or the person/authority concerned please tell us why. If he/she/it/they won't, why not?
Could it be one of these reasons: 1) England (or is it UKGBNI?) considers itself the only country capable of properly delivering vaccinations? 2) Does England's (or is it UKGBNI's?) choice of vaccines rule out the relevance or efficacy of other vaccines? 3) Is the special treatment viewed as an aide to preventing further spectacular increases in England's (or is it UKGBNI's?) covid count from new cases to deaths? 4) How wide is the contact area for "Test and Trace" to feel compelled to act – eg. an aeroplane cabin, a train or chunnel carriage, a cross channel ferry, an airport terminal, a motorway service station – you get my drift? 5) Is this because Morocco has put England (or is it UKGBNI?) on its red list? 6) Was it a misprint in some administrative/governmental memo?
Can someone throw some light on the matter, apart from being bewildered?
Chris L-W.
Lin - 29 October 2021 at 22:42 CEST
I was pinged from the NHS track and trace in August and had to stay in the UK an extra week which caused me problems with my German employer
I have just started a gov.uk petition for this to be reviewed. Unfortunately it won't be published for a week due to the review process. But if you can, please search under https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions?state=open&q=covid for "Recognise EU COVID Vaccination Certificate for NHS Test and Trace exemption" next week and join the petition.
angadoberoi93 - 15 November 2021 at 17:58 CET
Hey, do you know if your petition is already online? A search turned up no results on the link!
Eich19a - 1 November 2021 at 13:22 CET
This happened to me. While I was visiting the UK from October from Germany, I got pinged by NHS Track and Trace 2 days before my flight home (presumably they automatically sign you up from details on the UK Passenger Locator form?). I was told that I was "Legally Mandated" to self isolate for 10 days BUT ONLY because my double-vaccinated status was not recognized due to being given in Germany (incidentally where my BionTech vaccine was developed). I took absolutely no notice whatsoever (apart from doing 2 negative lateral flow self-tests before leaving), and took my flight as normal. Don't worry, the NHS TnT people are so incompetent, it is very unlikely that they would ever catch anyone, and I was fully prepared to legally challenge this purely political spite. So, will absolutely sign up to the UK petition when available online. Thanks!
Christopher Hobday - 4 November 2021 at 18:13 CET
Track and Trace has been a failure and they are just going through the motions. I plan to travel by train from Provence to Wales in March. The French Govt continues to apply sensible précautions and the majority of French people (at least where I live) continue to répond in a responsible manner. Most of those on the TGV and Eurostar will have been double jabbed and will be wearing masques. I will not feel unsafe until I alight at St Pancras. I may be inclined to voluntarily self-isolate on my return to France. There is a far greater risk of me bringing infection back from the UK than carrying it in.
Happened to me last week! Is there any way you guys can keep an eye on this and update the article if they update their rules in the UK? That would be super helpful!
Unscheduled stop: Baby born aboard high-speed train in France
Travellers on a high-speed rail service train in France experienced an unusual delay at a station at the weekend -- while a fellow passenger gave birth to a baby boy, local media reported.
The pregnant woman began to feel contractions shortly after taking her seat on the Paris-Strasbourg train, run by German rail operator Deutsche Bahn.
She alerted staff and the train was held at the Lorraine TGV station in the eastern French town of Louvigny to allow a medical team on board which then delivered the baby, the Republicain Lorrain said.
The other passengers were asked for patience during the birth of the baby boy, Felix, which took just over 80 minutes.
Felix was "a little premature", the paper noted.
Mother and baby were taken to a nearby hospital by the local firefighter service, which reported later that both were doing well.
The Republicain Lorrain said that everybody was now wondering whether the German rail operator would send a birth gift, or grant its youngest passenger free trips on the network.
French public transport services have a history of providing such gifts. In 2018, after a baby was born on an RER Train in Paris, the child was offered a free Navigo pass until his 25th birthday.
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