Jakob Lenz (1748-1821), Vinedresser, 52 Ancestors #128
Posted on July 31, 2016 by Roberta Estes
Today, I get to write the article I thought I'd never ever write. For a genealogist, this is red letter day! Not only the fact THAT I get to write about this person that I never thought I'd identify, but WHAT I get to write about him just defies any hope or expectation I could ever have had. I could never have dreamed this big. I'm really not exaggerating. You'll see!!!
Jakob's story begins like all genealogy stories, but it ends very, very uniquely with information that was unknown to even Jakob himself! No cheating and peeking ahead.
Jakob Lenz is the father of Jakob Lenz, or Jacob Lentz as he was known here in the States. The younger Jacob, Jacob Lentz, my ancestor, is the man who immigrated to America.
Until just recently, with the help of Tom, a retired genealogist who specialized in German records, no one had ever been able to determine where Jacob Lentz, the immigrant, was from, or who his parents were. It wasn't for lack of trying. It was for lack of being lucky.
Partly, as you can see, it was because the first and last names were spelled differently in Germany, and partly because his wife's name was remembered incorrectly, so I was looking for a marriage that didn't exist, and partly because there were no online records until recently, so searching was a needle-in-a-haystrack proposition.
In the blink of an eye, that all changed with Tom's discovery and opened the door into the world of my ancestors in the beautiful village of Beutelbach in Germany. Along with finding Jakob Lenz came several generations of ancestors, literally until the church records run out. Jakob and his ancestors were firmly planted in Beutelsbach and had probably been living there "forever" as far as they were concerned.
That's what people in Europe often say when you ask where their family was from before where they live now. "We've lived here forever." While that's true from their perspective, which generally reaches back a couple to a few generations, sometimes, forever isn't really "forever," as we'll discover.
Jakob Enters the World
Jakob Lenz was born on February 1, 1748 in Beutelsbach to Johann Jakob Lenz and Katharina Haag.
Jakob's baptism is shown here in the original church records, now available, albeit poorly indexed, at Ancestry. Genealogists must possess the minds of sleuths, and an intimate knowledge of German customs and records was critical for this process as well – skills I didn't and don't have and thankfully, Tom does.
His translation tells us that Jakob was born on February 1st and baptized the next day, on the 2nd and that his father was a vinedresser.
Godparents:
Gottfried Jacob Bechtel, baker's helper
Maria Catharina, wife of Johann Reinhold surgeon (for minor wounds) here
Anna Katharina, wife of Johann George Dobler, citizen and vinedresser, here
We don't know how the godparents are related to the Lenz or Haag families, but they likely were. The child was generally named after godparents, with the idea being that if something happened to both parents, the godparents would raise the child and assure their religious education. In other words, without a will, this is how Germans universally provided for the possibility that both parents would die, a situation that happened all too often.
The records at Family Search originally discovered by Tom provided us with his birth information, and lists the source as well. We therefore knew this information was taken from the church records – we just needed to obtain that church record.
Beutelsbach has provided an invaluable service to genealogists seeking their family by reassembling the historical families from church and other records and providing the information online, and for free.
Here we find the records for Jacob with his parents listed at the bottom of the page, his siblings, his wife and his children, along with any notes found in the records.
In genealogy parlance, this kind of information is "to die for." I had struck gold again on this line! Twice in a month – I'm definitely on a roll!
Jakob's Marriage
Jakob Lenz married Maria Margaretha Grubler or Gribler on November 3, 1772 in the church in Beutelsbach when he was 24 years old.
The document above, from the Lutheran church in Beutelsbach shows his marriage record. It says they were "married the 18th Sunday after Trinity and that Jacob Lenz was the legitimate unmarried son of the citizen and vinedresser, Jacob Lentz from here. Maria Margaretha is the legitimate unmarried daughter of the late Johann George Gr_bler, citizen and vinedresser from here."
It's interesting that his first name is spelled both Jacob and Jakob in various records and Lenz as both Lenz and Lentz. No wonder we are confused today! German spelling wasn't any more standardized than it was in America during the same timeframe.
Maria Margaretha was the daughter of Johann George Gribler (as it is spelled in the Beutelsbach heritage book) and Katharina Nopp, also of Beutelsbach.
You can see the church spire in the center of Beutelsbach, like all European villages where the original church still exists. It is here that Jakob and Maria Margaretha sealed the union that lasted just 16 months shy of 50 years. A half century marriage in a time without antibiotics and where early death was far more common than elder years, is truly remarkable. They both, individually and together, certainly beat the odds.
Jakob's Children
Jakob Lenz would not have been allowed to marry were he not financially stable and able to support a family. The last thing Germans wanted was people that the church and villages had to support, so they assured that people were truly financially "ready for marriage" before the marriage was authorized. Of course, that just meant that some children were born before the official marriage took place. Most people weren't thwarted by administrative details.
Jakob Lenz and Maria Margaretha Gribler had 9 children, their first child being born just days after their first wedding anniversary.
Katharina Barbara Lenz was born November 17, 1773 and died September 4, 1817 in Beutelsbach of epilepsy. She never married. This makes me wonder if she was epileptic for her entire life. I expect she lived with her parents. Perhaps it was a blessing she died before they did.
Jakob Lenz was born July 12, 1775 and died less than 2 months later on September 1, 1775 in Beutelsbach.
Maria Magdalena Lenz was born October 1, 1776 and died November 1, 1849 in Beutelsback of old age. She never married.
Johannes Lenz was born January 16, 1779 in Beutelsbach and died October 29, 1813 at 34 years of age in Beutelsback, single, cause of death stickfluss (bronchitis or pneumonia). Occupation not given.
Philipp Jakob Lenz was born April 30, 1781 and died March 1, 1789 in Beutelsbach, just a few weeks before his 8th birthday.
Jakob Lenz was born March 15, 1783 and emigrated to America. This is my ancestor whose story is absolutely incredible. So incredible, in fact, that we had to tell the story in two parts, plus one for his wife, Johanna Friedericka Ruhle whom he married on May 25, 1808 in Beutelsbach. The church records tell us that Jakob left with his family to immigrate on February 12, 1817.
Wandert mit K. Erlaubnis vom 12.Februar 1817 mit seiner Familie nach Nordamerika aus.
Translated as:
Emigrated with children permission from the 12th February 1817 with his family to North America.
Katharina Margaretha Lenz was born November 2, 1785 and died January 6, 1858 in Beutelsbach at age 73 of old age. She married Johann Conrad Gos on April 21, 1807 in Beutelsbach and had 5 children. Johann Conrad immigrated to Russia in 1817 where he eventually died, but Katharina's last child, Jakob Freidrich Gos, was born in 1823. Son Jakob Freidrich died in the poorhouse of emaciation and "wasting" in 1857, the year before his mother. Occupation: hafner (potter). It's unclear whether Jakob Freidrich was the son of Johann Conrad Goss, perhaps home for a visit, or the son of a different father. We'll never know, because Jakob Freidrich Gos never married, so never had children, at least none that we know about. If he had produced sons, we would have the possibility of Y DNA testing to see if his sons' descendants match Gos men or men by some other surname. Katharina Margaretha's secret has already gone to the grave.
Johanna was born July 2, 1788 and died October 10, 1788 at 3 months of age in Beutelsbach.
Christina was born January 1, 1793 and died "8-13" but no year given, probably 1793 at about 7 months of age.
Of their nine children:
4, 2 boys and 2 girls, died as children at 2 months, 3 months, 7 months and just under 8 years of age, respectively
2 died as adults, but before their parents, having never married
2 married and had children
The son who had children immigrated to America in 1817
The husband of the daughter who had children left for Russia in 1817
1 additional daughter lived to adulthood but never married
Only 3 children outlived their parents
Vinedresser
Based on multiple church records, we know that Jakob's occupation was that of a vinedresser in the vineyards surrounding Beutelsbach, the center of the wine region in Germany. The ancient vineyards on the sides of the hills, as you can see below, have been carefully pruned and lovingly cared for by generations of vinedressers, an occupation proudly passed from father to son.
In fact, according to the church records, we know that Jakob learned this occupation from his father and passed this occupation to his son Jakob who was also a vinedresser before he emigrated.
I can see the two Jakobs, father and son, working in the vineyard together, talking, making small talk, but the kind of small talk that sustains one's soul after the other person is gone. Those are the moments that are bonding forever, even though at the time they seem routine and mundane. Like plowing the fields in Indiana or picking green beans on a hot summer morning when the grass was still slippery with dew. What I wouldn't give today to pick a day, any day, to return back in time to visit the farm in Indiana – and I'm sure that Jakob Lenz, the son, especially during his hellish immigration to America, felt the same way.
War – The End of the Political World
In 1803, the Napoleonic War threatened and for the next 12 years, the Germans lived under constant threat of upheaval as Europe fought internal wars and redefined itself. The French empire, led by Napoleon was pitted against an array of other European powers formed into various coalitions.
The battles were bloody and devastating, and the countryside was often laid to waste. This History of the Kingdom of Wurttemberg tells us the following:
Once a Duchy within the Holy Roman Empire, on 1 January 1806, Duke Frederick II assumed the title of king Frederick I. He abrogated the constitution and united old and new Württemberg. Subsequently, he placed the property of the church under the control of the kingdom, whose boundaries were also greatly extended by the process of "mediatisation," the loss of immediacy. Immediacy is the status of persons not subject to local lords, but only to a higher authority directly, such as the Holy Roman Emperor.
In 1806, Frederick joined the Confederation of the Rhine and received further additions of territory with 160,000 inhabitants. Later, by the Peace of Vienna of October 1809, about 110,000 more people came under his rule. In return for these favors, Frederick joined French Emperor Napoleon in his campaigns against Prussia, Austria and Russia. Of the 16,000 of his subjects who marched to Moscow, only a few hundred returned.
After the Battle of Leipzig in October 1813, King Frederick deserted the French emperor, and by a treaty with Metternich at Fulda in November 1813, he secured the confirmation of his royal title and of his recent acquisitions of territory, while his troops marched with those of the allies into France.
In 1815, the King joined the German Confederation, but the Congress of Vienna made no change to the extent of his lands. In the same year, he laid before the representatives of his people the outline of a new constitution, but they rejected it, and in the midst of the commotion that ensued, Frederick died on 30 October 1816.
The End of Jakob's Personal World
For the decade beginning when Jakob was 55, war and the threat of war was ever present. That alone would be enough to cause a great deal of stress in the life of a German citizen who lived not far from the French border. Furthermore, many Germans lost their lives and Germany switched sides late in the war. I'm sure the populace was both confused and disenchanted, not to mention, afraid for themselves, their children and the future. Germany's army was fueled by mass conscriptions and many Germans had already died in Napoleon's war.
Beginning in 1813, when he was 65, Jacob's personal world began to unravel as well. In October of 1813, his 34 year old son died of pneumonia.
In 1814, Jakob would have stood by the grave while his grandson was buried.
Towards the sunset of Jakob's life, he would have lived through the year with no summer, as 1816 was called. Jakob had been born during what was termed the "Little Ice Age" in which Western Europe experienced a general cooling of the climate between the years 1150 and 1460 and a very cold climate between 1560 and 1850 that brought dire consequences to its peoples.
The colder weather caused social strife impacting agriculture, health, economics, emigration, and even art and literature. The eruption of Mt. Tambora in April 1815 in Indonesia propelled ashes into the atmosphere, blocking the sun, reducing temperatures even further – although at the time, no one could have put 2 and 2 together to deduce cause and effect. The Tambora eruption caused a particularly cold year in 1816 in which crops failed throughout both America and Europe, forcing prices for what little food did exist in Germany and other parts of Europe into record high territory. Riots ensued.
Additionally, this famine was added onto the effects of the aftermath of the Napoleonic wars which lasted from 1803-1815.
Notice on this map of 1812, Germany really doesn't exist, although it would by 1815 with Napoleon's defeat.
From Jakob's point of view, it probably seemed like the world he knew was coming to an end, between the wars, the cold weather and finally, 1816 with no summer.
It was reported that many people in 1816 spent the summer around a fire. The grape vines in many places died and few, if any, produced grapes. If Jacob loved those vines and vineyards, knowing each one personally as most vinedressers did, he would have grieved for them and been sickened at the pathetic sight of his beloved vineyards, always within view, on the hillsides.
Jakob practiced his craft as a vinedresser probably for more than half a century – and maybe longer if his health held. He probably began working in the vineyards when he was perhaps 15, or maybe younger, joining his father. He probably worked at long as he could. He died at age 73, so it's conceivable that he walked to work in the vineyards every day for 58 years or so. I would wager that he found the hillsides and vineyards both beautiful and peaceful.
If Jakob had not already retired, perhaps it was the year of 1816 that prompted him to do so. He would have been 68 years old and may have wondered what the world was coming to. Many people interpreted the climate change as a whole, and 1816 in particular, in Biblical terms.
Furthermore, Jakob may have had tuberculosis.
Jakob, his only surviving son, left in 1817 for America in the springtime, the year after the worst of the famine and when his father was 69 years old. Both men knew they would never see each other again. This must have been a gut-wrenching goodbye.
Jakob, the father, must surely have been terribly torn – wanting a better life for his namesake son and family, but also wanting Jakob's company and help in his final years. Perhaps Jakob walked up the hills into the vineyard to watch his son's wagon disappear into the distance so that no one would witness the hot tears he surely cried. With his only son gone, he must have felt terribly alone and vulnerable in the face of an uncertain future combined with old age.
Jakob the son would likely have been terribly torn between providing for his future and that of his wife and children by immigrating to a land with more opportunity, and staying in Germany to care for his aging parents. Not knowing if 1817 was going to repeat the agricultural devastation of 1816, not to mention the political unrest, made the decision particularly difficult, but it's obvious that Jakob wasn't taking a "wait and see" approach, since he had clearly made and acted upon his decision by February and probably departed Beutelsbach shortly thereafter, perhaps looking back one last time to see if his father was in sight and to sear the vineyards on the hillsides above the village that he would never see again in his memory forever.
Jakob, the father, would say a different kind of goodbye to yet another child a few months later on September 4, 1817 when his firstborn, Katharina Barbara, would die of an epileptic seizure. Given that she never married, she very likely lived with her parents. At 45 years of age, if she had been epileptic for her entire life, perhaps her death was a release. Still for an aging parent, Katharina Barbara's decline and death must have been utterly devastating and horribly traumatic to witness. Watching your children suffer and being powerless to help is its own special kind of hell on earth. Your worst nightmare come true.
Having witnessed seizures where the person stopped breathing, I can only imagine with horror watching your child seize and die. How many times had they literally held their breath as she seized, but eventually resumed breathing. This time, she didn't. I shudder to even think. My heart just breaks for them, almost 200 years later.
Yet another catastrophe visited this family in 1817, which Jakob may have come to regard as the year from Hell. Katharina Margaretha Lenz's husband, Conrad Gos, emigrated to Russia, leaving his wife and children behind. Their support may have fallen to Jakob.
Jakob may have wondered just how much more he could take.
Jakob's Death
Jakob Lenz died July 2, 1821 at 6AM in Beutelsbach and was buried two days later, July 4th, at 10 AM, as shown in the church record, above. Jakob's death entry in the church records, according to the Beutelsbach website is as follows:
Ist hier geschult und aufgezogen worden.
Todesursache: Zehrfieber
Beruf: Weingärtner
Translated, this means:
Has been trained here and raised.
Cause of death: Zehren fever
Occupation: Vinedresser or liternally, wine gardener
It also gives his parents names and his father's occupation as a vinedresser. The record gives Jakob's age at death as 73 years and 5 months.
Zehren fever translates as "hectic fever," which, according to the dictionary, is described as a remittent fever, with stages of chilliness, heat, and sweat, variously intermixed, usually present in wasting diseases, in particular pulmonary consumption or tuberculosis.
Jakob's body may have died, but his absolutely incredible Y DNA lives on in his male Lentz descendants who carry his Y chromosome. The Y DNA is passed from father to son and follows the surname path, so all Lentz males today who descend from this line through son Jakob/Jacob who immigrated to America, barring an adoption of some sort, carry Jakob's Y DNA signature. Let's take a look!
Jakob's DNA, Another Chapter
Several weeks ago, cousin C. Lentz, a descendant of son Jacob Lentz, agreed to test his Y DNA. Never, in my wildest dreams did I expect results so unbelievably unique. C. Lentz was not the first Lentz male to test, but my previous Lentz cousin who tested is now deceased, and if we wanted to test additional markers, and order additional tests, we needed to have a new candidate.
Am I ever glad cousin C. Lentz agreed, because the information forthcoming that was not available at the time the previous Lentz cousin tested is nothing short of phenomenal. As in jaw-dropping fall-off-your-chair incredible.
The last chapter, at least as of today, in the epic journey back in time comes from Dr. Sergey Malyshev, a geneticist at the Institute of Genetics and Cytology of Belarus National Academy of Sciences who specializes in plant genetics. Plant or human, genetics is genetics and the underlying foundation is the same. As Dr. Malyshev said, the methods of DNA analysis are universal. There are no big differences in the methodology between the DNA analysis for plants or humans.
Dr. Malyshev is one of the volunteer project administrators for the R1b Basal Subclades project at Family Tree DNA. Cousin C. Lentz is a member of that project. Dr. Malyshev asked me to request the BAM file for cousin C. so that he could analyze the results. I want to emphasize that Dr. Malyshev is not affiliated with any other company or organization, and the information went no place other than to Dr. Malyshev.
I received an e-mail from Dr. Malyshev detailing the SNPs, or mutations, and the order they are found on the Y DNA tree, grouped by the older haplogroup designations, in bold below. Underneath the headings are the SNPS that must be found positive (+) to indicate the individual is a member of that sub-haplogroup.
R1b1a1a2a2
CTS1078/Z2103+
Z8128/Y4371+
Z2105+
S20902/Z8130+
CTS9416+
R1b1a1a2a2c
R1b1a1a2a2c1
The exciting part was yet to come.
Dr. Malyshev said:
Under Z2109, Mr. Lentz's haplotype (his personal results) and 2 other kits form the new branch, KMS67:
442223 (Lentz)
Unlike Lentz, kits 181183 and 329335 are much more closely related to each other. They have 45 common SNPs. Thus, they form an additional subclade of R-KMS67 which is KMS75. The R-KMS67 branch is probably a very rare subclade. 181183 and 329335 belong to Burzyan Bashkir people. The relationships between Lentz and these Burzyan Bashkir men is very ancient. For example, the KMS75 marker was found in ancient DNA samples of the Yamnaya culture.
Ok, now I'm sitting bolt upright and wide awake. And not believing my ears.
The Yamnaya culture, as in 5,000 years ago?? Seriously? This ancient DNA was only recovered about a year ago! In fact, ironically, I wrote an article about the Yamnaya discovery because I found it utterly fascinating. Now that just seems like an uncanny coincidence.
Dr. Malyshev continues:
Thus, the separation of Lentz's line from the Bashkir line could have occurred even before the Yamnaya culture appearance. At the moment, the distribution of R-KMS67 line in Europe is completely unknown. It will take time to understand it. It is clear that this line is very rare. Germany could be an important place for the Z2109+ people because several different subclades of R-Z2109 were found here. It will be important to check the 14168106 (A/G) marker that was also observed in samples from the Yamnaya culture. This is only possible by using the BAM file.
I ordered the BAM file, sent it to Dr. Malyshev and attempted to wait patiently, which was no small feat, let me tell you. Not being a carrier of the patience gene, I wrote to Dr. Malyshev and asked if he had been able to discern anything in cousin C. Lentz's BAM file relative to marker 14168106 and the Yamnaya culture?
Dr Malyshev replied:
Yes, 14168106 (a change from nucleotide A to G) is positive for Lentz. I have prepared a special chart combining all data for the R-KMS67 branch.
Next, I had to know if the mutation at 14168106 preceded the Yamnaya culture or did it emerge during the Yamnaya culture, or can't we tell for sure? In other words, is there any way to know if our Lentz ancestor was part of the Yamnaya, or did his common ancestor with the Yamnaya reach perhaps further back in time?
Dr. Malyshev again:
I think the correct answer on your question is we can't tell for sure. The problem is that we do not have ancient DNA samples from the Western Yamnaya culture. It occupied a very big territory from the Balkan peninsula to the Severski Donietz and Don rivers in steppes near the Black Sea. We have only ancient DNA samples from the Eastern Yamnaya culture that occupied a territory to East from the Volga river in steppes near the Caspian Sea. At the moment we can only speculate that the Western Yamnaya culture was a source of R-Z2109 for both Europe and Asia. In such case the R-KMS67 branch has appeared in the Black Sea steppes, and then a main part of this branch has migrated in the Eastern direction to the Caspian Sea and formed the Eastern Yamnaya culture. Its descendants can be found around the Caspian Sea in Bashkortostan or even Iraq. However, a second small group of the R-KMS67 branch (including Lentz's ancestor) could stay near the Black Sea for a while and then migrated to Europe together with the R-CTS7822 and R-Y14414 lines. This is only hypothesis, of course.
Dr. Malyshev mentioned the extensive area covered by the Yamnaya culture, which is shown on the map below, from Eupedia.
Dr. Malyshev is kind enough to allow me to include the chart he created that shows the branch of haplogroup R that our Lentz ancestor belongs to. As you can see, so far, our Lentz family is the only one found in Europe but we distantly match two men from the Burzyan Bashkirs in Russia and one man from Iraq.
I wrote about the Bashkir and the Yamnaya and events in history which could have propelled these cultures into the part of Europe that would one day become Germany in the first article about Jacob Lentz, the immigrant.
You can see the region where the Yamnaya people are found, and the Yamna culture. The river transecting the middle of the yellow region North to South, passing between the n and the a on the map below, is the Volga.
Now that we know a little more about the Yamnaya as a whole, I had to ask where, in Russia, are the excavations that produced the remains that match our Lentz ancestors? On the map above, the locations are just above the last a in Yamna, on the Volga.
However, we can be much more specific in terms of the locations of the Yamnaya burials.
The burials were found in close proximity to the city of Samara in Russia. Samara, today Russia's 6th largest city, was home to "nests of pirates" before 1586, at the bend around the island on the map above. Samara was a frontier post that began with a fortress on the island that protected the eastern-most boundaries of Russia from forays of nomads. Samara was the gateway between east and west, a crossroads of many trade routes. The Yamnaya were likely early inhabitants and could have been traders as well, some 3500 years before the first written records of Samara appear.
Maybe our ancestors were early pirates or perhaps the equivalent of toll takers, assuring safe passage for traders needing to cross the Volga or pass by the island on the waterway. Maybe they were soldiers or traders, or all of the above at different times.
This website tracks the locations where ancient DNA has been retrieved, and the maps below show the locations of the ancient burials from this website.
Three of the 4 Yamnaya burials are found on this map and all were from about 5,000 years ago, or about 3,000 BC.
The first burial was located just above the curve in the Volga River, above the island, on the River Sok, shown above. The mileage legend on the maps is in the lower left hand corner.
The second burial is shown just east of the Volga River bend, above.
The third burial is shown just below the bend in the Volga River, just below the island. As I'm sure you've noticed, there's a theme here. I surely wonder about the importance of that island, perhaps a neutral ground for trade or a fortified island that was easy to defend? A settlement site perhaps, or a village maybe? All of the above at one time or another?
There were additional burials found on the River Sok, above, but the quality of the DNA recovered wasn't sufficient to determine if they are a match to our Lentz line and to the other burials.
Dr. Malyshev indicates that site 370 (above) can't be eliminated either, although it is a bit further south and east.
Looking at the region as a whole, we can see the cluster of burials, above.
Our Lentz line eventually settled in Beutelsbach, near Stuttgart, Germany, shown above on the same ancient burial map. Need I mention that Stuttgart is no place close to Samara, Russia? In fact, it's more than half way across the entire Eurasian continent, as you can see on the map below. That's a massive distance interrupted by mountain ranges and inhospitable territory.
Looking at Google maps, you can see that it's nearly an 8 hour plane ride.
This trip translates into about 3,500 miles, or the distance across the US diagonally from Key West, Florida, the furthest Southeastern point to Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada which is in essence the end of the driving road in the Northwest.
I don't know about you, but I have no desire whatsoever to make either one of those journeys, let alone by horseback, or chariot, or even perhaps on foot. If armies of that day and time moved at the same rate wagon trains did in the early US, they covered about 10 miles a day, on average. Of course, armies may well have stopped to fight and hunt and pillage and such – so their progress may have been much more sporadic and slower. One could not expect to travel for 3,500 miles through unknown terrain unimpeded and without being challenged by whomever the current residents were. People are funny that way – they don't take kindly to invaders – especially not invaders that might have their eye on either their food or their women – or both. And an army has to eat!
That epic migration might not have been a single event, but a series of migration events separated by a significant amount of time, even generations.
Genetics and genetic genealogy, even though with our Yamnaya discovery we're far beyond lineages we can track through paperwork back in time, isn't much different than regular genealogy. You find one answer and it opens the door to hundreds of new questions. Genealogy and genetic genealogy are the pursuits that never end.
Now, of course, I want to know more about the Yamnaya and more about ancient Yamnaya burials with their ceremonial red ochre.
More about these mysterious tall steppe-dwelling people who may well have developed the gene for and introduced lactose tolerance into the European population as they migrated westward, probably as unwelcome invaders.
More about men who will be found in eastern Europe who will carry our terminal SNP of KMS67, shared with the current day Burzyan Bashkirs and one man in Iran.
More about that intriguing DNA location 14168106, the location of an unnamed SNP just waiting to be named. Our SNP, our very own SNP, the one that belongs to us and some, but not all, of the Yamnaya, our relatives for sure and our probable ancestors. So far, that unnamed SNP belongs to no one else! No other living person so far discovered. No one else in the world except for our Lentz men and the ancient Yamnaya – reaching back some 5,000 years into the mists of time on the Volga River.
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39 thoughts on "Jakob Lenz (1748-1821), Vinedresser, 52 Ancestors #128"
caith on July 31, 2016 at 6:13 pm said:
Thank you for sharing the excitement of your new find. Although, I think I remember that you indicated there is not a book in you, I still see your writing a book in the future.
Celia Lewis on July 31, 2016 at 6:23 pm said:
Fascinating! Absolutely fascinating!! So much more to learn, to study, to tease out… history and genetic genealogy mixed in together. I'm sure you'll enjoy the journey you're on!!
Rod on July 31, 2016 at 7:01 pm said:
BOY, I love your articles…WOW. I wanted to share an immigration song, not about German immigrants but Irish, that illustrates that painful separation and goodbye…
robertajestes on July 31, 2016 at 7:17 pm said:
Just ripped my heart right out…..
Yea, I should have had a "GRAB A KLEENEX" warning…but I use it when I teach to illustrate that aspect of the immigrant experience that we really don't emphasize in our histories.
I know how hard it was to say goodbye to my parents when I moved away and I knew I would see them again. I can't even begin to imagine what it was like to climb on a ship knowing you were leaving your entire family behind.
Shanti Miles-Kelley on July 31, 2016 at 11:36 pm said:
I look forward to every post! You have such a beautiful and thoughtful way of bringing life to our ancestors, and remind us not only to search thoroughly for documents and records, but also to "fall in love" with our precious families!
Nancy Laney on August 1, 2016 at 12:04 am said:
What an incredible story!!
Roberta Fox on August 1, 2016 at 2:35 am said:
First, interesting and moving.Then a fascinating leap into ancient Dna, state-of-the-art science, and history and migration. Kudos.
Jean Herrmann on August 1, 2016 at 3:12 am said:
Our ancestors' paths keep crossing!
In February, I read your ancestor, Phillip Kirsch, was from Mutterstadt – very close to my Bingemann and Ort/Orth ancestors in Fussgoenheim.
Now, Jakob Lenz is a Weingaertner from Beutelsbach, two hamlets away from my Herrmanns and Hutts who were Weingaertner in Weiler, Rems-Murr-Kreis, near Schorndorf. I have also visited Beutelsbach. In both cases, my ancestors have lived there "forever" – as long as the church records exist. I may have Hermann ancestors in Beutelsbach as well. I just haven't confirmed the paper trail as of yet. They surely knew each other living so close and sharing the same profession!
Have you seen Andreas Kieser's landscape of Beutelsbach from 1685?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Beutelsbach,_Weinstadt,_Andreas_Kieser.png
robertajestes on August 1, 2016 at 3:34 am said:
I have Orths in Mutterstadt. Also Ortwer. Oldest known Orth ancestor is Johann Georg Orth 1655-1696 married Anna Maria Steiger born 1734. Is this your line too? I don't descend from the Bingeman line but they married into the Kirsch line. Very, very small world. Does our DNA match? I'm kit T524738 at GedMatch and at all 3 testing companies.
Jean Herrmann on August 1, 2016 at 7:10 pm said:
No DNA match to my mother or two first cousins (different parents) until I lower the segment size to 4 cM. I've found dozens, if not over a hundred, Bingemann/Bingaman DNA cousins, due to a fair amount of unintentional endogamy and very large family size. Unfortunately, very few are on GEDmatch or FTDNA, so I can't compare their DNA. I have not explored my Orth ancestors, choosing to spend my time seeking the lines of five great grandparents.
I will echo the words of Sharon Hockensmith about the area around Stuttgart. I have visited there several times, most recently 2009. Only once did I drive a rental car. It was a real bear in the city, too many winding one-way streets, but that was before GPS. I almost always traveled by train / S-Bahn / U-Bahn. Funny, I usually purchased tickets in German. The only time my tickets were goofed up was the time I bought them in English.
I was able to get by speaking very little German, but outside of Stuttgart not as many people spoke English as I expected. I found many people understood slowly spoken English, but could not speak it.
By the way, one of my 9th great grandfathers, about 1611, was recorded as a "tenant" Weingaertner near Beutelsbach. None of the others were designated.
I should have given you Mom's kit number since she is a generation closer. T167724
Our mothers share a 5.2 and a 5.0 segment. People who match both kits don't share the same segments, so any match is too diluted. If I return to Fussgoenheim or Beutelsbach, I'm taking a bunch of kits – hoping to persuade some people to test.
I second that idea!!!
Marianne on August 1, 2016 at 6:46 am said:
I didn't expect the Lenz family to be back this quickly, but with the kind of info you got from y-DNA, I guess you just had to share. ^__^
Tom and you seem to have manage to find quite a few generations behind the brick wall, even comparable to Antony Lore's floodgate it seems. Congratulation!
As for the y-DNA, what a tale! So the Lenz ancestor could have lived on the shore of the Volga… or maybe it was already a distant cousin and your ancestor lived closer to the R1b point of origin (location of which we may never know).
robertajestes on August 1, 2016 at 1:14 pm said:
I think in time we will know a lot more, but today we don't. It's still all very exciting. You just never know what you are going to find.
Elaine Murphy Gaudet on August 1, 2016 at 12:15 pm said:
I bet you could find my relatives in Ireland late 1700-early 1800's. You are great.!
Thanks for sharing. Amazing find.
Sharon Hockensmith on August 1, 2016 at 2:40 pm said:
I enjoyed seeing the pictures you posted of Beutelsbach because they bring back wonderful memories of my junior year abroad from Stanford University. In the 1960s and into the 70s, Stanford maintained an extension campus in a manor house above the vineyards surrounding Beutelsbach. I was there in 1963 and again in 2013, 50 years later, for a reunion of the Stanford students who attended "Stanford in Germany" ("Stanford in Germany" is now in Berlin). Conveniently, the manor house where we lived and took German classes is now a modest hotel, Hotel Landgut Burg, which I recommend should you decide to visit (it has a web site). In 2013, we presented the mayor of Weinstadt (the town that now combines Beutelsbach and two other nearby villages) with a Stanford banner to hang in his office, near the church whose steeple you see in one of your pictures. It's a beautiful area to visit (nearby Stuttgart has a major airport) and I highly recommend it for a taste of rural Germany and a sense of your true ancestry.
How is driving there for Americans? Did you drive from Stuttgart? Did you happen to take any photos of the town and surrounding vineyards? The manorhouse must have been where the aristrocracy lived what the vinedressers worked for. In 2013, did the local people speak English?
Alice Fairhurst on August 1, 2016 at 2:42 pm said:
Fantastic story! Your Lentz family must be ecstatic over this find. A fabulous trip back in time and across the world.
My cousin who tested and his family are just over the moon:)
Christopher Schuetz on August 2, 2016 at 5:08 am said:
Fantastic story.
That Grubler/Gribler in the document above looks like an umlaut (the way it is handwritten is two short strokes, not dots) so probably "Grübler" which pronounced sounds like "Gribler".
Marianne on August 2, 2016 at 3:50 pm said:
I second, it really look like an umlaut, and it would explain how some see u and others i.
Mark Deutsch on August 2, 2016 at 5:38 pm said:
Ausgezeichnet! Were you able to compare STRs and determine a possible MRCA to the split from KMS67? I 'not sure how some are able to determine Y-DNA ages without aDNA or STRs but I see it all the time. I guess Dr. Malyshev wouldn't go on a limb with that.
I know he is working on more, but I don't think there is enough to reliably do those calculations yet. I have my doubts about the accuracy of those calculations anyway, truthfully.
Beth Gatlin on August 3, 2016 at 5:22 am said:
What an exciting find!
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Joel Hartley on September 3, 2016 at 2:20 am said:
I'm a bit late in reading your article. I was quite interested as my Lentz ancestors were also from Beutelsbach. My immigrant ancestor was born about 20 years before yours and was Johann Jacob Lentz.
See http://jmhartley.com/lentz/lentz001.htm
Joel Hartley
robertajestes on September 3, 2016 at 3:24 am said:
What fun Joel. We connect at your generation 2. So glad to hear from you.
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Brian on December 6, 2016 at 2:38 am said:
http://www.jmhartley.com/HBlog/?p=1787 Another Jacob Lentz story.
robertajestes on December 6, 2016 at 4:27 am said:
It sure would be interesting to find a male descended directly from this Jacob carrying the Y DNA and test him at Family Tree DNA.
It would also be interesting to see if that Jacob's descendants' autosomal DNA matches any of the DNA of the Jakob Lenz (1748-1821) descendants.
Douglas Buchholz on December 14, 2016 at 4:05 am said:
"It is clear that this line is very rare. Germany could be an important place for the Z2109+ people because several different subclades of R-Z2109 were found here." I am studying a Bowman lineage whose Y-DNA is R-Z2109. There are Bowman's and Bauman's in the USA from Bacharach, Rhineland-Palatinate, Deutschland, Germany, and it does intrigue me that the Bowman's in Saratoga County, NY may descend from those in Bacharach. Or from a lineage of Bowman's that migrated to Scotland/England perhaps. Or could the Bowman surname be an appropriated surname, differing from the original surname?
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vaud (@vvaldric) on January 1, 2018 at 1:19 am said:
Hi Roberta
I enjoyed reading this article. Especially as my BigY results came in this weekend and I have been assigned KMS67 . Not many of us at the FTDNA subclade project. Family originally From Calvados, Normandie .
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