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How long has Mourinho got at Man Utd?
Discussion in 'Sports' started by Barbara Fan, Oct 6, 2018.
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I have never quite got over the fact he left Chelsea and will always think of him as their manager but is the Special One's time up at Man Utd?
And i have to ask are the players really trying, they are way over paid and they owe it to the fans who turn up match after match to put in a good performance. And it shouldnt be about egos
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45772318
Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho is undoubtedly under pressure.
His side have gone four games without a win and are nine points behind Manchester City and Liverpool at the top of the Premier League.
It has led to intense speculation about his position, including one report in Saturday's Daily Mirror that he would be sacked after the game against Newcastle, regardless of the result.
However, BBC Sport understands Mourinho retains the support of the club's board and there is no immediate threat to his position.
Should he continue in the role? BBC Sport's pundits give their views.
'He is the fault in all of this'
Former England, Arsenal and Everton defender Martin Keown: "You just can't see Manchester United turning this around. The five-at-the-back formation in last week's 3-1 defeat by West Ham didn't work and they are all playing as individuals.
"Mourinho creates an amazing energy when it works, but a massive negative energy when it doesn't. He's the fault in all of this.
"I don't think you can go for the people who appointed Jose Mourinho. This is a serial winner of trophies and he's lost his way. He's got to go back to basics."
'Mourinho delivers success'
Former Scotland, Chelsea and Everton winger Pat Nevin: "With Jose Mourinho you will always get trophies and success.
"It might not be a happy place, but he does deliver success.
"The system he has adopted through his career has been very successful, but the question has now arisen as to whether he is a dinosaur and if he is outdated? I don't think he is.
"If Mourinho doesn't start winning games, he'll get the hoof and he will deserve it. You can play the way that Jose plays, in comparison to the way Liverpool and City play - but you'd better win all the time because the fans and the players will get sick of it otherwise."
'Philosophy doesn't fit with the club'
Former England, Manchester United and Inter Milan midfielder Paul Ince: "It is so messy and it has become the circus. The hub of the United fans still want Mourinho to stay, and I think you will see them back him at Old Trafford against Newcastle.
"But the biggest issue is the way that Manchester City and Liverpool have come to the fore and the way that they are playing. Manchester United under Sir Alex Ferguson won trophies and in style - but Mourinho does not do that.
"It is all right to win the Champions League at Inter in that way, but there will always be a tension at United if you play in that conservative fashion.
"The club have always been built on entertainment, but they want to win as well. Mourinho's philosophy doesn't fit with the club and they have to be playing attacking football."
'He looks isolated'
Former Chelsea and Reading midfielder Steve Sidwell: "When I played under him at Chelsea during his first spell, he had everyone in the palm of his hand - players, media, everyone in football. He didn't pick fights and chose his words carefully.
"Now he's picking little fights with everyone. It's always little niggly comments. It's so unlike Jose. He looks isolated, a lonely figure."
'He knocks attacking flair out of players'
Former England, Newcastle and Tottenham winger Chris Waddle: "Something has to give at Manchester United. There has been a problem with Paul Pogba and I just don't think those players enjoy playing football for Jose Mourinho.
De Bruyne was sold to German side Wolfsburg for £18m during Jose Mourinho's second spell at Chelsea
"I have got a lot of respect for Jose Mourinho but he doesn't play the Manchester United way.
"He has never liked entertainers or risky footballers. What happened to Damien Duff and Joe Cole in his first spell at Chelsea? In his second, he couldn't fit Kevin de Bruyne, in the team and sold him. Mohamed Salah was loaned out and left out.
"He doesn't like players who take risks. When they play they don't look the same."
'Clutching at straws'
Former Republic of Ireland and Everton winger Kevin Kilbane: "That negativity has set in. In the goalless Champions League draw with Valencia on Tuesday, they started the first five minutes brightly but that fizzled out and they offered very little throughout.
"The game against West Ham was the most baffling. His team selection included players playing out of position with Scott McTominay asked to do a job at centre-back.
"When that happens, you're clutching at straws and that is why he won't turn it round."
Manchester United's situation is going to improve - Mourinho
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Barbara Fan, Oct 6, 2018
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They're 2-0 down at home to Newcastle at the moment, I think he's on the way out!
Swami, Oct 6, 2018
They managed to come back from 2-0 down to beat Newcastle 3-2, but I reckon the knives will still be out for Mourinho!
Felt sorry for Newcastle and to lose 3-2 with a Man U goal in the 90th minute
I think Mourinho will be out before Christmas and Zinedine Zidane will be installed as the new Man Utd manager in time for the January transfer window.
Angela Channing, Oct 7, 2018
Jose Mourinho: Manchester United sack manager
Manchester United have sacked manager Jose Mourinho after identifying a catalogue of his failings at the club.
The Portuguese, 55, took over in May 2016 and led United to League Cup and Europa League titles, but they are 19 points behind league leaders Liverpool.
The club have made a change after no progress with results or style despite spending nearly £400m on 11 players.
They also say the new manager will understand the philosophy of the club, including their attacking tradition.
It is understood players and staff are not happy after a disappointing and unsettling period during which young players were not developed.
United are sixth in the Premier League, but closer to the relegation zone than to leaders Liverpool, who beat them 3-1 on Sunday.
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The decision to sack Mourinho, which will cost more than £18m, has been taken in the long-term interests of United with a view that the club is bigger than any one individual.
Mourinho is understood to have wanted his own structure, but the new manager will be appointed with a head of football above him reporting to executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward.
A United statement said: "A caretaker manager will be appointed until the end of the season while the club conducts a thorough recruitment process for a new, full-time manager.
"The club would like to thank Jose for his work during his time at Manchester United and to wish him success in the future."
The club hope to appoint a caretaker manager before they face Cardiff City on 22 December but it will not be assistant manager Michael Carrick or academy boss Nicky Butt.
The candidate will be drawn from outside the club, but will not be former Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger.
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Barbara Fan, Dec 18, 2018
I think Mourinho always had an extremely inflated opinion of his own abilities, although even so long gone are the days in football when either players or managers were primarily thinking of performance and pride in representing their clubs rather than the number of zeroes on the pay packet.
Mourinho was in many ways typical of that.
Swami, Dec 19, 2018
Mourinho was always a bad choice for Man Utd and it was always going to end badly. Why on earth they extended his contract last season is beyond me. The boring and defensive way his teams play is alien to the club and his abrasive matter always rubs players up the wrong way. His past success was largely the result of having the cash to buy the top players but now other clubs like Man City have even bigger financial resources, Mourinho has been shown up to be little more than a very average manager whose teams play very negative football.
Angela Channing, Dec 27, 2018