With or without Romney, D.C. a surprising Mormon stronghold
By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor
Alexandria, Virginia (CNN) – A few hundred Mormons filed into a chapel just outside the Washington Beltway one recent Sunday to hear a somewhat unusual presentation: an Obama administration official recounting his conversion to Mormonism.
"I have never in my life had a more powerful experience than that spiritual moment when the spirit of Christ testified to me that the Book of Mormon is true," Larry Echo Hawk told the audience, which stretched back through the spacious sanctuary and into a gymnasium in the rear.
Echo Hawk's tear-stained testimonial stands out for a couple of reasons: The White House normally doesn't dispatch senior staff to bare their souls, and Mormons hew heavily Republican. It's not every day a top Democrat speaks from a pulpit owned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
And yet the presentation by Echo Hawk, then head of the U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs, is also a perfect symbol of a phenomenon that could culminate in Mitt Romney's arrival at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue next year: The nation's capital has become a Mormon stronghold, with Latter-day Saints playing a big and growing role in the Washington establishment.
The well-dressed crowd gathered for Echo Hawk's speech was dotted with examples of inside-the-beltway Mormon power.
In one pew sits a Mormon stake president – a regional Mormon leader – who came to Washington to write speeches for Ronald Reagan and now runs a lobbying firm downtown.
Behind him in the elegant but plain sanctuary – Mormon chapels are designed with an eye toward functionality and economy – is a retired executive secretary of the U.S. Supreme Court.
A few pews further back, the special assistant to the U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan sits next to a local Mormon bishop who came to Washington to work for Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah and now leads a congressionally chartered foundation.
Mitt Romney, who would be the first Mormon president if elected, is the son of a Cabinet secretary under Richard Nixon.
"In a Republican administration, there will be even more Mormons here," whispers the bishop, Lewis Larsen, pointing out prominent Washingtonians around the chapel. "Every Republican administration just loads up with them."
Regardless of which party controls the White House, Mormonism in Washington has been growing for decades.
CNN's Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories
When Larsen arrived in Washington in the early '80s, there were a just handful of Mormon meetinghouses in northern Virginia, where he lives. Today, there are more than 25, each housing three separate congregations, or wards, as they're known in the LDS Church.
"There's been an absolute explosion in Mormon growth inside the beltway," Larsen says before slipping out of the pew to crank the air conditioning for the swelling crowd.
The LDS Church says there are 13,000 active members within a 10-mile radius of Washington, though the area's Mormon temple serves a much larger population – 148,000 Latter-day Saints, stretching from parts of South Carolina to New Jersey.
Signs of the local Mormon population boom transcend the walls of the temple and meetinghouses.
Crystal City, a Virginia neighborhood just across the Potomac River from Washington, has become so popular with young Mormons that it's known as "Little Provo," after the Utah city that's home to church-owned Brigham Young University.
Congress now counts 15 Mormon members, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, according to the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. That means the 2% of the country that's Mormon is slightly overrepresented on Capitol Hill.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat, is the highest-placed elected Mormon in Washington.
Even many Latter-day Saints joke about Washington's "Mormon mafia" – referring to the number of well-placed LDS Church members across town – though they cringe at the thought of being seen as part of some cabal. (Echo Hawk, for his part, left the Obama administration a few weeks after his chapel presentation for a job in the LDS Church hierarchy).
"No one talks about Washington being an Episcopalian stronghold or a Jewish stronghold," says Richard Bushman, a Mormon scholar at Columbia University. Talk of "Mormon Washington," he says, "represents a kind of surprise that people who were thought of as provincial have turned up in sophisticated power positions."
Bushman and other experts note that, despite Mormons' growing political power, the official church mostly steers clear of politics. It's hard to point to federal legislation or a White House initiative that bears distinctly Mormon fingerprints, while it's easy to do the same for other faiths.
For example, the White House's recent "compromise" on a rule that would have required religious groups to fund contraception for employees was mostly a reaction to pressure from Roman Catholic bishops.
Nonetheless, Mormon success in Washington is a testament to distinctly Mormon values, shedding light into the heart of one of America's fastest-growing religions.
And though the official church is mostly apolitical, most rank-and-file Mormons have linked arms with the GOP. Romney's own political evolution mirrors that trend.
Such forces help explain why Mormons' beltway power is poised to grow even stronger in coming years, whether or not Romney wins the White House.
'A ton of Mormon contacts'
For many Washington Mormons, religion plays a key role in explaining why they're here.
Larsen, who sports a brown comb-over and tortoise shell glasses, arrived in Washington in the early 1980s as an intern for Hatch, also a Mormon.
He landed the internship courtesy of Brigham Young University, his alma mater. The Mormon school owns a four-story dorm on Pennsylvania Avenue, not too far from the White House, which houses 120 student interns each year. It's the school's largest such program in the nation.
"Part of our church's tradition is to be connected with civic life, to make our communities better," says BYU's Scott Dunaway, who helps place students on Capitol Hill, at the Smithsonian and other Washington institutions. "We don't believe in being reclusive."
It's a perfect characterization of Larsen. He grew up in Provo, in the shadow of BYU, and wanted to prove he could make it outside of Utah.
"Kids growing up in the LDS Church have been told, 'Go ye out in the world and preach the gospel of Christ - don't be afraid to be an example,' " Larsen said, sitting in the glass-doored conference room of the foundation he runs on K Street.
"So we are on our missions, converting people to Christianity," he continued. "And coming to Washington, for me and probably for a lot of people, came out of that interest. We see it as our career, but also we're going out to preach the word of Christ."
For Larsen, that usually means correcting misinformation about Mormonism or explaining Mormon beliefs and practices – you really don't drink coffee, ever? – over lunch with co-workers or at business functions, rather than on-the-job proselytizing.
He learned about integrating work and faith from Hatch. He was initially shocked to discover that the senator prays in his office each morning. Larsen and Hatch developed what the bishop calls a "father-son" relationship, with the intern rising up through the ranks to become Hatch's chief Washington fundraiser.
"We would go on trips, and I'd quiz him on the plane: Why did the church do this? Why didn't the church do this?" Larsen said. "He was like a tutor to me."
Now, as the head of a foundation that educates teachers about the U.S. Constitution, the bishop helps other young Mormons with job leads and introductions. Larsen was appointed to the role by Hatch and the late U.S. Sen. Ted Kennedy.
Much of Washington's Mormon professional network is still anchored by BYU, which operates a handful of big, well-connected alumni groups with major Washington chapters. The most prominent is BYU's Management Society, a global organization whose biggest chapter is in Washington.
At the chapter's recent alumni dinner, former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was the guest of honor. She has strong ties to the Mormon community and has hired Mormons as top aides. Says Larsen: "Condi's got a ton of Mormon contacts."
Patrice Pederson also knows how to work a Rolodex. A lifelong political activist, she moved from Utah to Washington last year and soon tapped into BYU's local network.
Pederson served as the U.S.-based campaign manager for Yeah Samake, a Mormon running for president in the West African nation of Mali.
Samake traveled frequently to the U.S. to raise money and build political support, so Pederson enlisted the help of BYU's Management Society and other groups to host events for the candidate.
Both in Washington and across the U.S., many Mormons are watching his candidacy.
"Members of the church on Capital Hill were anxious to introduce the candidate to other members of Congress," says Pederson, sipping an herbal tea (Mormons eschew black leaf teas) in a strip mall Starbucks near her apartment in Alexandria, Virginia.
"It's cool to have a member of the church running for president in Africa."
Beyond making connections, many Washington Mormons say the LDS Church provides an ideal proving ground for careers here.
Unlike most churches, it has no professional clergy; from the bishop to the organist, each role is filled by everyday Mormons, most of whom have other day jobs. As a result, Mormons take church leadership roles at an early age, speaking publicly at Sunday services almost as soon they learn to talk.
"My kids grew up in the church, and we get together for three hours on Sundays, and each member needs to get up and speak," says U.S. Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah. "By the time they graduate, they have all these speaking assignments that other teenagers just don't have.
U.S. Rep. Jason Chaffetz, a Utah Republican, says Mormonism provides ideal training for aspiring politicians.
"For those who grow up in the Mormon church, they are taught skills that allow them to be successful in a tough city like Washington," says Chaffetz, who converted to Mormonism shortly after college.
Young Mormons also hone leadership skills by serving missions away from home. The missions last from one and half to two years and happen when Mormons are in their late teens and early 20s and often include intensive foreign language training.
"Young Mormons are more formidable in public settings and international settings than others," says Terryl Givens, a Mormon scholar at the University of Richmond. "Normally you would have to acquire more age and work experience before you feel comfortable and useful at NGOs and think tanks."
Chaffetz, whose son is serving a mission in Ghana, says the experience is the perfect preparation for political careers.
"They learn rejection early on," he says. "If you're going to be in politics, that's a pretty good attribute."
Christina Tomlinson served her mission in nonexotic Fresno, California. But working with the Laotian community there, she acquired the foreign language skills that landed her first internship at the U.S. State Department.
"I look back at that and it's nothing but divine providence," Tomlinson says one night at an office building-turned-chapel in Crystal City, after a weekly discussion about Mormon teachings. "I would have never made those choices."
When she arrived at her foreign service orientation in the late 1990s, Tomlinson was surprised to find that a half-dozen of her State Department colleagues were also Mormon. The thriving LDS community at State even runs its own e-mail list server so Latter-day Saints can find each other wherever in the world they're stationed.
Like former presidential candidate Jon Huntsman, who used the Mandarin language skills acquired through a Mormon mission to Taiwan to help secure his job as President Barack Obama's previous ambassador to China, Tomlinson leveraged her mission to get ahead at State, where she now serves as special assistant to the U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan.
"I'm basically the chief of staff for the president's representative charged with implementing U.S. foreign policy towards Afghanistan and Pakistan," she e-mailed on a recent plane ride back from the region.
Language skills acquired on a Mormon mission helped Christina Tomlinson get her start at the State Department.
At the point of a bayonet
Like many Mormons, Tomlinson says her professional life is driven by a faith-based patriotism that sounds old-fashioned to modern ears: "I just really wanted to serve my country."
But that distinctly Mormon patriotism was hard-won. From their very beginning, Mormons had tried to forge a special relationship with Washington. And for decades, they failed.
Joseph Smith, who founded Mormonism in the 1830s, petitioned the U.S. government to protect his fledgling religious community from the violent persecution it was experiencing, even meeting repeatedly with President Martin Van Buren.
But Washington refused, provoking Smith – who Mormons consider their founding prophet – to run for president himself in 1844. He was assassinated by an anti-Mormon mob in Illinois well before Election Day.
In the face of such attacks, Mormons fled west, to the territory that's now Utah. But they continued to seek ties with Washington, dispatching representatives to the capital to lobby for statehood.
Congress refused to grant it. Instead, Uncle Sam disincorporated the LDS Church and sent the U.S. Army to police Mormon territory.
In the eyes of Washington, Latter-day Saints were flouting federal law by practicing polygamy. The feds saw the LDS Church as an undemocratic rival government that threatened Washington's power.
Joseph Smith, Mormonism's founding prophet, ran for president in 1844 but was killed before Election Day.
Mormons would eventually ban polygamy, paving the way for Utah statehood in 1896. But Congress nonetheless refused to seat the new state's Mormon senator, who also served as a top church official.
For four years, the U.S. Senate held hearings to grill U.S. Sen. Reed Smoot and other church leaders, alleging that Mormons continued to practice polygamy despite promises to the contrary.
"The political trial was as much a galvanizing cultural moment as was Watergate," says Kathleen Flake, a scholar of Mormonism at Vanderbilt University in Tenneessee.
When Smoot was eventually seated – after the LDS Church took further steps to stamp out polygamy – he managed to become a Washington powerbroker. He would chair the Senate Finance Committee and act as a presidential adviser.
"He was Mr. Republican," says Flake. "For a while there, he was the Republican Party."
Smoot's unflagging pursuit of legitimacy in Washington, despite the city's bias against him and his faith, symbolizes what many call a uniquely Mormon appreciation for American civic life. It helps explain the Mormon fascination with Washington to this day.
It may seen counterintuitive, but Mormons' early exposure to persecution at the hands of other Americans – aided, Mormons say, by the U.S. government – wound up strengthening their patriotic streak.
In the face of attacks, Mormons clung to the U.S. Constitution and its unprecedented guarantee of religious freedom. They distinguished between the document and those charged with implementing it.
Mormon scripture goes so far as to describe the U.S. Constitution as divinely inspired, establishing a unique environment in which Mormonism could emerge.
"Mormons are superpatriots," says Columbia University's Bushman. "Joseph Smith said that if the government was doing its job as laid out in the Constitution, it would protect Mormons from their enemies."
Mormons began to shed their Utah-only siege mentality and fanned out in the early part of the 20th century. Their patriotic streak, which translated into military enlistments and applications for government jobs, led many to Washington.
That wave included J. Willard Marriott, the hotel chain founder, who launched his business career by opening an A&W root beer stand here. He would go on to forge the kind of deep political connections that would help make Willard "Mitt" Romney his namesake.
Washington's Mormon community got another boost in the 1950s when President Dwight Eisenhower appointed a top church official, Ezra Taft Benson, as his agriculture secretary.
"Mormons took it as a sign of maybe, just maybe, we're being accepted," says Flake. "It signified a cultural acceptance of Mormonism. People thought Mormons believed weird things, but also that they were self-reliant, moral and good neighbors."
As Mormons became more accepted, they became more upwardly mobile, landing in parts of the country that could sustain careers in commerce, academia and government - another reason Washington was a big draw.
By the time there were enough Mormons in the eastern U.S. to justify the construction of the first Mormon temple east of the Mississippi River, the church chose a site just outside Washington.
The temple opened in 1974, shortly after another high-profile Mormon – George Romney, Mitt's father – left his post as Richard Nixon's secretary of Housing and Urban Development.
"The Washington temple served as a symbol of the triumphant return of Mormonism to the east," says Givens, the University of Richmond professor. "Mormons left from the point of a bayonet in the 1800s and the temple is this gigantic symbol that says 'We're back – and we're back in the nation's capital.' "
The Mormon temple outside Washington was the first such temple built east of the Mississippi River.
Unlike Mormon meetinghouses, where members meet for Sunday worship, temples are grander buildings reserved for certain rites, such as proxy baptisms for the dead.
To this day, the first monument many Washington visitors see isn't a federal landmark. It's the massive Mormon temple, its Georgian marble towers and gold-leafed spires looming above the trees on the Washington Beltway like an otherworldly castle.
The temple houses a J. Willard Marriott-financed mural of Jesus Christ's second coming, which features a picture of the Washington temple itself in the background.
"Are you implying that the millennium will begin in Washington?" a temple visitor once asked Marriott, referring to Jesus' return.
Replied Marriott: "What better place is there?"
Good at organizing
These days, the Mormon impulse toward Washington is often as much political as patriotic.
Patrice Pederson - the campaign manager for the Mormon running for president in Mali - made her first foray into politics at 15, hopping the bus from her home in the suburbs of Salt Lake City into town to intern with a Republican candidate for the U.S. House.
"I remember that when Bill Clinton was elected, I wore all black to school that day," says Pederson, who was in junior high at the time. "I was mourning the death of liberty."
When then-Vice President Al Gore visited Utah, Pederson protested his speech with a homemade poster that said "Blood, Guts & Gore – Healthcare'94." (She can't recall the poster's exact meaning).
Pederson's activism as a "total hardcore right-winger" continued into her 20s. She put off college at BYU to start a "pro-family" advocacy group aimed at lobbying foreign governments and the United Nations. The work brought her to Washington so frequently that she decided to relocate last year: "I had more friends here than in Utah."
Pederson's path to D.C. speaks to the growing Mormon/Republican alliance since the 1960s, driven largely by the emergence of social issues such as abortion and gay marriage and the rise of the Christian Right.
"In the 1950s and '60s, Utah became Republican," says Bushman. "It's partly about being anti-communist, but it's also a response to the 1960s and the decay of old-fashioned moral virtues. It's an anti-1960s movement, and the Republicans seemed to be the party of old-fashioned virtues."
Pederson's roommate, Kodie Ruzicka, grew up squarely in that movement, with her mom heading the Utah chapter of Eagle Forum, a conservative Christian group founded by rightwing icon Phyllis Schlafly.
In the 1970s, when the Catholic Schlafly led a successful grassroots campaign against the Equal Rights Amendment, which would have made gender-based discrimination unconstitutional, she enlisted the help of Mormons.
To its opponents, including the LDS Church, the ERA was the work of radical feminists who wanted to upend traditional gender roles.
Much of Schlafly's organizing was among evangelicals, and "given the sometimes hostile evangelical line on Mormons, [Schlafly's] Mormon outreach was kind of revolutionary," says Ruzicka, who now works at the Justice Department. "But we're good at organizing, and we have a lot of useful structures for it, so that was useful to her."
Today, Mormons head Eagle Forum chapters across the West, including California, Arizona and Nevada, as well as Utah.
Bridge-building between Mormons and the conservative movement helps explain the Reagan administration's push to hire many Mormons into the White House - which further cemented the alliance. That bond continues to lure Mormons to D.C.
Ruzicka, for one, continued in the political footsteps of her mother, arriving in Washington in her mid-20s to lead a nonprofit that promotes safe haven laws, which allow young mothers to legally abandon young children at fire stations.
Beyond hot-button social issues, U.S. Rep. Chaffetz says the Mormon faith engenders support for limited government.
"The church is very adamant about personal responsibility, and for people to voluntarily participate in service," the Utah Republican says. "There's this feeling that service is not something that should be mandated by government."
The LDS Church, for its part, insists it is politically neutral and that it avoids pressuring Mormon elected officials to tow a church line. "The church's mission is to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ, not to elect politicians," the church's website says.
Mormon experts say the church's support for a relatively strict separation of church and state is born of the U.S. government's refusal to help Mormons in the face of early persecution.
And after being accused of setting up a rival government around the turn of the last century, the church is loath to be seen giving marching orders to LDS politicians.
The church did, however, play a leading role in passing Prop 8, California's gay marriage ban, in 2008. Church officials called it a moral cause, not a political one.
Plenty of critics disagree. But neither Mormon bishops nor church officials are known to lead the kind of church-based legislative lobbying efforts that Catholic bishops or evangelical leaders do.
Mitt Romney himself embodies the reluctance of Mormon politicians to connect their religion and their public policy positions, in contrast to politicians of other faiths.
That reluctance also appears to be born of anxiety over Americans' lingering questions and doubts about Mormonism. When Pew asked Americans last year what word they associated with the Mormon faith, the most common response was "cult."
In recent weeks, Romney's newfound position as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee has produced a mix of excitement and worry among Mormons. That's especially true in Washington, where politically savvy Latter-day Saints send out frequent e-mail round-ups of Mormon media coverage to their LDS networks.
"A lot of us know it's ultimately a good thing, but it's hard to feel like it's a good thing because so much of the publicity is about things you wouldn't talk about in polite company, like my underwear," says Pederson, referring to the enduring fascination with Mormon undergarments.
Like many conservatives, Pederson is suspicious of Romney.
"I don't like his waffling, to put it gently, on life and family issues," she says. "But if it comes down to Romney versus Obama, hand me the pom-poms. I'll be president of the Romney-Is-the-Best-We-Can-Come-Up-With-for-President Club."
For now, Pederson is working with the National Right to Life Committee's political action committee to raise money for the Romney effort, even as she makes up her mind about how actively she wants to promote his candidacy.
Some of her calculus is about weighing political reality against her conservative idealism. And some of it is about her next professional move. It's a very Washington place to be.
- Video by CNN photojournalist Jeremy Moorhead
Dan Gilgoff - CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor
Filed under: 2012 Election • Barack Obama • Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints • DC • Jon Huntsman • Mitt Romney • Mormonism • Politics
Next entry »Across country, black pastors weigh in on Obama's same-sex marriage support
« Previous entryText of Mitt Romney's commencement address at Liberty University
RickBangkok
What the article does not do is really tell the story.
BIA is a complete mess! Mormon Indian or not.
Mormons are as messed up as any other kind of religious people. They have a fake front they show the public like many other religions.
Tell me again why Marriotts all serve alcohol? hmmm
rochdoc
hmm. Did n't think about it. But I forgot, we are talking about presidential election!!
111ken111
Jesus is the answer not religions.
budshot
Anybody who believes in this crap has some serious problems.
biologixco
Google: Kolob, Magic Underwear and The White Horse Prophecy
Learn why mormonism is a cult and not a religion.
seedenbetter
Google virgin birth, resurrection and see why Christianity is a cult.
Cult or religion, leaders who worship mythological sky fairies and goblins is not what this country needs
Or go to Mormon.org and get the real story on Mormons. If you want to know about something go to the source and then make your own judgment.
Go to EXmormon.org for a real and independent view of mormonism
Donald do not insult the American intelligence. The source is the fox in the hen house.
OK, the right is always talking about how screwed up Washington is. Mormons are dominating the politics there . Do we actually want a gay-bashing Mormon as president? I don't.
I know quite a few Gay Mormons. They are nice, do not drink usually. I figure that when you see 2 Mormon missionaries at least one is Gay. Suggest watching the film Latter Days if you want to see how Mormons really treat Gay Mormons.
I work for company who has offices in Utah. I'm in another state, but I deal with Mormons over the phone daily and I've visited our offices there many times. I have never worked with such amazing, honest, caring, hard working people in my life. They are ALWAYS nice no matter how stressful things get at work. I could care less about what religion these people (or anyone for that matter) believe in. What I care about is you morals, values, how you treat your family and others, etc. Isn't that what REALLY counts? As for Mitt, I don't know the man so I don't know if he fits into the Mormon mold that I have experienced, but I pray that he does. All of us should HOPE that he does because they are an amazing group of people. (PS, I'm a practicing Catholic)
I lived in Utah for 20 years and (thankfully) just left. The people in that office you contact will be nice on the surface but will stab you in the back the first chance you get. If you're a Mormon, too, they'll still stab you in the back but then deny they did it to you to your face.
I have never experienced a more hypocritical, nasty, bigoted, dishonest, false group of people in my life. They are taught so many backward things that the cheating and lying becomes second nature. They actually don't think they're doing anything wrong! All non-Mormons are sinners to them and cheating and lying to them is okay. They will do anything to try and get ahead in their jobs and to make money and for influence. They'll cheat like mad to get there and then they'll cheat harder and lie bigger once they do. I will never set foot in that hell-hole of a state again and I will NEVER vote for a Mormon for any office no matter what party they may be a member of.
Dr,Montalvano
Hawk, oh yeah! they are so nice ! until 1979 their Church maintained an official declaration of racism! Also may be you should explain why Mormon self proclaim prophets have written and spoke extremely racist remarks about non-whites. All that plus the fraudulent fabrication of a cult bringing the same words from parts of the Old Testament and New Testament, plus all kind of fraudulent lies!
Welled
So to a Christian a stronghold is something you pull down. This ought to be fun and laughs today. The Christians get to tear down Mormonism "online" no less and the Mormons get to defend the stronghold with whatever they think is real. This is a really great religous tourist trap. It should be entertaining.
Please stay tunned. Better than the Joel Olsteen fake teaching with some sarring the truth.
TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND SCIENCE??? TRY RELIGION!!!!
mormonism is a C U L T!
Google: The White Horse Prophecy.
Learn what the mormoons are REALLY up to
America, would YOU elect a cult leader as President?
Think, think. Think about it...
All religions are a cult, it's just a numbers game.
Maybe. but read The White Horse Prophecy and understand why Mitt Romney cannot become POTUS.
With Mitt Romney and Harry Reid they will have co-opted 2 of three branches of our elected government.
No Good.
All religions are cults.
DON'T PUT A MORMON IN THE PRESIDENCY! THEY DO NOT SUPPORT WOMEN'S RIGHTS, AS EVIDENCED BY THE FACT THEY DID NOT SUPPORT THE EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT!
Yes, there are lots of mormons in DC, but there are lots of EXMORMONS as well! Check it out: http://www.exmormon.org
Well there you go, Mormon or Republican, neither supports equal rights.
DeeCee1000
Mormon founder, Joseph Smith taught his followers that the reason black people have black skin is because "God" saw that they were evil and made their skin dark for that reason. Joseph Smith taught his followers some very disturbing things. Mormons also believe that everyone will be judged by their Joseph Smith on "Judgement Day".
Dee, we SHOULD care what his "religion" is because mormonism is NOT a religion.
It is a CULT!
Read up on The White Horse Prophecy.
Decee1000, yes, you are correct. It is a fraudulent and dangerous cult or manufactured religion
Alert Citizen
And we think we are first world....having these kind of discussion............there is more discrimination based on religion in this country than any other we call "third world"!
Who care what religion he comes from? It a job of a president....we dont want him fighting for a religion....we want him to fight for freedom ..period!
I think your name should be inert citizen. People kill each other over religion in some countries. I think we are exercising our "freedom" by discussing what is a very unusual set of beliefs by someone who wants to lead our country.
Korndog Lobstertail IV
Washington is a Stronghold of money and power. Which Dog they worship has nothing to do with anything.
kerfluffle
why do you hate dogs?
Under Karl Rove and George BUsh (who didn't have a clue), Mormons were hired in large numbers (qualified or not) in many positions in the Federal government. It wasn't pretty because during those eight years, no one else had a chance of a Federal job. Internships were automatically given to LDS. When Pres O took office, one of the first things his admin should have done was clean house to keep his policies from being undermined.
God loves all no matter what religion and scripture shows this (If one see the creations in this world sun, rivers, and believe in a creator and not the creation then he may well be saved). Same a Mormon may be saved. Scripture says there is only one God (Creator) but Mormons teach there are many gods. Believing in many gods is not believing in a creator but believing in the creation of many gods' in one's mind and these are not of God and are not saved. Joel Olsten is a deceived one who does not know the will of God for supporting the Mormon religion. Mormanism is the religion of Satan even though many may believe in one creator then they may be saved.
People who quote their bible to give credence to what they are saying have no concept of corroborative evidence.
Try again, this time with something other than your bible that provides evidence your god said whatever.
Factually wrong. And how did Joel Osteen get into this? He's not Mormon?
Load the Dog atop the car!
Planet Kolob ain't too far~~~
Poor little pooch up top the Roof?
THAT"S why mormons are so aloof!
Like my little Romney spoof?
Just say NO to Romney 2012~!
Does Mittens wear the Magic Underwear?
America wants to know!
Learn what the mormoons are up to.
Its evil and no good.
When America discovers Planet Kolob, Magic Underwear and Joseph Smith
Mittens is toast.
A cult leader to lead the free world>???
Think, think. Think about it
Morman Smorman Who Cares
Who cares of the religion the man is a phoney and out out touch with reality.
He makes so much money he is out of touch with all the other 99% of Americans. So please replucblcans qqit thinking your going to make millions by pretending to be associated.
He also grew up spoiled and the bu lly in High school as we read recently of his friend who owned up to holding down a g a y person and cuttting all ther hair off too. "Oh gosh I can't remember having a sharp instrament and cutting off a kicking and screaming person while we laughed and chopped away at his hair at the audlt age of 18"
Yep another selective memmmory person in office who implemeneted what America hates which is affordable health care for all.
Way to go G a y bashing flip flopping millionaire out of touche with the US and building a house wiith a four car garage and elevator for the cars person. This Buds for you man!
JerryD
The first Mormon temple east of the Mississippi river was in Nauvoo,Illinois which was the site of Joseph Smith's cult not in Washington!!!! Joseph Smith the founder of Mormonism was a cult leader before he and his brother were killed by an angry mob while in jail in Carthage Illinois!!!....get the facts Mormons are now back controlling Nauvoo and have built another huge temple after the first one was burnt down!!
No it was Kirtland, not Nauvoo.
cbrown
oops you forgot Kirtland Ohio. Facts indeed!
Way to go G a y bashing flip flopping millionaire out of touche with the US and building a hour with a four car garage and elevator for the cars person. This Buds for you man!
superlogi
Yes, why the article in the first place. Don't you people ever get embarrassed at your obsequiousness toward Barry and his merry band of Marxist sympathizers.
Jatovi
Why does religion matter so much?
Because people are scared to make their own decisions and accept responsibility, so they turn to religion to solve all their problems.
Because mormonism is a C U L T!
Learn what mormons are REALLY up to
Because you have people like George Bush who invade other countries under the belief that their god told them to.
Religion is a sick, disgusting, filthy disease of the mind and we don't need people in power who guide the legislation of the country to conform with their fantasy.
« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 Next »