can you just tell me the question you are you're going to address in this meeting? Yes. What should be done before the meeting by the people who will be coming to the meeting while they can still formulate new policy choices? Because once you're at the meeting, all you do is argue about the text that's been sent out, and every 197 delegations have been sent there with very explicit instructions by their country. There's no problem solving that can happen at the meeting. But before the meeting, everyone is busy figuring out what they want everybody else to do. There's no joint planning beforehand that, and it, because it can't be done in an official way. If it's done an official way, then everybody's there reading the script from their country saying everybody else is responsible, this is a problem, that's a problem, nothing can happen. So we're trying to get a different kind of conversation amongst a substantial number of the people who will be at the conference representing their countries into conversations between now and the summer, not in their official capacity, just in terms of problem solving and not just technical, the others as well. But people say, well, how would you decide who participates? And my argument is it doesn't matter. They're not going to decide anything. They're just going to put forward good proposals. Let's just have a diverse group that wants to put forward proposals in the collective interest. Well, where would you have it? When would you have it? I said