you need to have the institutional capacity to do that. Sure. To build the institutional capacity to think and act systematically, to build the capacity to adapt, adapt, act adaptively. And so the person who's talking about taking action, I think, needs to think about the institutional design could the process that makes this list possible and that itself becomes an item on the list. Sure, good point. Any other thoughts? All right, let's see whether we can. So essentially that what we are arguing, so I hope I convince you that there is no established methodology exists to resolve complex problem because these problems are not deterministic not random. So that means you cannot use classical physics or you cannot use statistical mechanics to do this. Then at the same time these problems can neither be fully explored by the positive is meaning this hypothesis testing type of framework that I was arguing that with five senses so you cannot just use scientific methods nor can you use just interpretations. So it's not that basically you can use either or methods really. So you cannot use purely scientific method, you cannot use purely subjective ethnographic matters to address these problems. What then you have to do really is some way to basically combine your scientific facts and social facts. So that's what is all about. And if you look at the paper that I sent you to read the arsenic contamination problem essentially tries to do this is to explain the problem. So