barry warsaw pjaxqpythonorg begin pgp signed message hash sha1 may 1 2008 633 pm andrew mcnabb wrote thu may 01 2008 125522pm 0700 guido van rossum wrote im proud dont see way around alternative would make keyword seemed excessive plus would odd super keyword self long discussions various possible ways implement something like downsides pep still isnt fixed describe status quo remember brainstorms treating like self im sure thought way remember seeing something like class myclasssuper1 super2 method requires super requires_super def __init__self super kwds superkwds method doesnt require super def some_methodself pass im sure drawbacks fits head using super python 20 verbose simple however im little scared super python 30 guess im probably wimp certainly makes uncomfortable think alternatives pep 3135 id probably prefer self__super__foo except id call selfsuperfoo although dont mind reserving nonunderscoreadorned name python 30 could see adopting self__super__ using superselffoo shortcut addresses main rationale pep without magic ie need repeat class barry begin pgp signature version gnupg v148 darwin iqcvawubsbpwlhejvbptnxfvaqjmoapnw1tj67lsm6pcbf9wypprqht2rj1210 0qdyxyyz8aky5i1qjtp3bn5erdlw1sawgckvp2phw7rvb3pxf8fghyg8du7kag zam96xdanlpiatvdazzhuowz3s6zubmx6qtpjueaoxhwqcotdhdme9qypdi2 kaoldsxrm bbrp end pgp signature _______________________________________________ pythondev mailing list zvlllneumpythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythondev unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspythondevpythondev40tangomucom fri 08 aug 2008 031958 0400 pythondev problems new super