michael watterson uvtjseircomnet frlinux wrote 101007 michael watterson wrote clear dishes disguised dishes even point dish indoors window floor balcony plastic sheet wonderful require line sight case possible steph complain td dtt situation fudged nearly 8 years government needs bite bullet pay roll done 1999 2000 people forced get pay tv 20 cant receive tv3 8 cant receive tg4 irish speaking areas line sight 20 degree elevation south east closer 30 deg elevation slightly west south sky pinched central europe satellite slot uk governmentcompanies sold original slot norwegians almost unique satellite service riding coat tails nonbritish murdoch system designed uk lots places even main cities dont get cable even cable good enough quality broadband digital due neglect network 20 years least upc upgrading mike wed 06 aug 2008 052256 0100 ntl digital tv quality ilug broadband dublin