philip prindeville bwdbqts_twnvredfishsolutionscom matt kettler wrote philip prindeville wrote matt kettler wrote philip prindeville wrote matt kettler wrote philip prindeville wrote depends whether equate bare domains urls suppose muas equate urls spammers use spamassassin use much braindeath uas bend rules clearly involves breaking erm rule actually break rule rfc somewhere specifying must interpret bare domains uris text emails rfc defines url looks like bare domain doesnt cut yes theres nowhere says cant interpret text want url rfcs general interpreted strict generate liberal accept urlizing text segments fits spirit violate letter rfc im aware lots caveats rule security certainly one region youll find liberal accept antithetical prove otherwise please want forbid bare domains email go ahead forbid anything like dont call test urls since clearly well dont call test uris actually slightly different really point however general intended test anything muas interpret uri ok conceded fix stop uas broken behavior dont copy besides braindeath norm exception de facto standard particularly absence rules yeah ill talk outlook folks file bug thunderbird think latter compatible former id venture guess neither started eudora predates products quite extensive period time could originated netscape mail sorry highly doubt blame microsoftism think kind wild incorrectness strongly postulate standard feature email long time recent development long standing hardly equates correct case dayone bugs would never get fixed also feature quite important accuracy spamassassin spammers regularly take advantage muas urlizing text regularly every day adding ability detect domains increases sas hit rate spam thats good thing yes causes sa trigger spam reports generally parts spam messages anyway lets face problem isnt sa detecting spam domain idiot filterrejecting abuse box lot spam uses constructs arent wellformed according standards like broken date lines im happy reject email cant get something simple date line correct kintata whatever called emails get bounced im fine maybe light fire beneath get fixed theyre minority anyway applies interpreting uris id rather suffer broken applications case user cut domain name email paste web browser able simply click message body helps maintain clear distinction wellformed messages gray area hamspam philip wed 06 aug 2008 155024 0800 clearly bogus false positives abuse contact point less