Re: [ILUG] localhost.localdomain considered harmful On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 15:40 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> On Tue 09 Oct 2007, Brendan Minish wrote:

> >
> > Sometime shortly after that expect IPv4 addresses to get very hard to
> > get and ISP's will start Natting customers for IPv4 access
> 
> I'm OK, Jack.
> Let the Chinese eat ipv6 ...

Actually much of the far east is a lot further along than us with IPv6
deployment. I can watch Chinese TV streamed in IPv6 ;-) 

> > XP fully supports IPv6
> 
> XP might support it, but does Sir Anthony?

Thieving Tony no longer has much to do with the incumbent, it's now the
plaything of a bunch of Aussie bankers.

Eircom's Core network is already using IPv6 and they are IPv6 peering at
the inex, it's not that big a deal when the time comes to push it out
further. I expect that as the ATM bits get removed IPv6 capable kit will
replace it 

We hope to be deploying IPv6 to the customers within the next 12
months   


> > IPv6 solves lots of problems for end users too, lots of things that
> > don't work very well though NAT will work better. Each user will get
> > a /48 from their ISP which is enough public address space for almost any
> > conceivable end use.
> 
> Which ISPs give out ipv6 domains like this?

here is a list, it may not be very up to date ?
http://www.sixxs.net/faq/connectivity/?faq=native

 /48 is the ripe recommended end user allocation, this is 65536 subnets,
should be enough for most folk but they would like to hear from you if
you think you need more space than that as an end user ;-) 

> > IPv6 auto-configures a lot more elegantly than IPv4 and fixes many of
> > the IPv4 Shortcomings
> >
> > I would strongly recommend that anyone interested at all with networking
> > take time to learn about IPv6
> > If you want some real live IPv6 connectivity to play with you can use a
> > tunnel broker such as sixxs
> > http://www.sixxs.net/
> 
> I looked at this once, but it made me dizzy.

Why, what is hard to get about it? It's just a tunnel.

> > Tim, Heanet have IPv6 well implemented throughout their network already,
> > you may already be using IPv6 and not have noticed !
> 
> Heanet is part of the plot.

Heanet are lovely people, working in nice warm places well insulated
from the total train-wreck that is the current state of telecomms in
Ireland  

> IPv6 is evil.

NAT is nasty 

> It makes computers ill.

Hmm, in IPv6 land port scans will be a thing of the past (too big) so
that's going to alter the spread of many nasty things 

> 2^{32} is a nice large number, almost infinite.

Each ISP gets IPv6 allocations in /32's 

> When I am elected Taoiseach I intend to put a tax on IP addresses.

You won't need to. indications are that there will be a trading system
for IPv4 post 2010 but there are not a very large number of route-able
blocks that can be freed up so expect IPv4 space to get rapidly
expensive 

When you are Taoiseach can we have cheap Oil and old fashioned
light-bubs back again please  

brendan


