martin v löwis qpnyslvloewisde web browser posts data standard way communicating encoding using thats true web browser use encoding web page originally contained form hints make easier acceptcharset attributes encoding used send page browser guarantees true latter guaranteed unless assume bugs present specific browser bug email smaller problem usually helpful contenttype header thats guarantee assume windows1252 mailers dont use mime nonascii characters mostly died 10 years ago people continue use likely accept occasional mojibake else would switched long ago moment data support claim experience drproject nonenglish locations im one sorts problems ill go back unicode dummies web forms always encode pages utf8 always works email added encoding processing pipermail mailman archiver also always works ill go back take another look problem come back new revelations appear good luck martin _______________________________________________ pythondev mailing list zvlllneumpythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythondev unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspythondevpythondev40tangomucom fri 08 aug 2008 002407 0200 pythondev encoding detection standard library