[DMDX] Re: RE: RE: long non-alphabet sutimuli If we can't replicate it here you'll have to send me  (jforster@psy1.psych.arizona.edu, not the list) the item file and the MS  Mincho font.  Clearly there's something in it that DMDX's parser isn't  dealing with correctly. At 03:38 AM 5/22/2004 +0900, you wrote: >Hallo, > >Thank you for the suggestions! > >My DMDX is the latest version and there are no missing frame delimiters. > >Your sample of Chinese sentences reminded me of the font I was using. > >Your example works perfectly, and it is Simsun font (for Chinese.) > >I was using the MS Mincho, which is the standard Japanese font. > >My guess is that somehow MS Mincho is not really recognized by DMDX,  >because the same sentence in Simsun font is all right, but not MS Mincho.  >The problem is Japanese sentences in Simsun font look very unnaturalÂ¡Â­. Is  >there anything I can do to make MS Mincho displayed without problem? Or  >would I have to use picture format if I stick to the Japanese fonts? > >Below I attach some examples. The second item will cause an error. HummmÂ¡Â­. > >Nahoko > >+1 / "ÃÃÂÃÂTÂ¤Â¬ÃÂ¬ÃÃÂ¤ÃÂIÃÃÂ¤Â¬Â}ÂÃ¬Â¤ÃÂºÃÃÃ¯Â¤Ã²Â½Ã¬Â¤Â±Â¤Â¿Â¤ÃÃÃÂ¤ÃÂ¤Â¿" /  >"ÃÃÂÃÂTÂ¤Â¬ÃÂ¬ÃÃÂ¤ÃÂIÃÃÂ¤Â¬Â}ÂÃ¬Â¤ÃÂºÃÃÃ¯Â¤Ã²Â½Ã¬Â¤Â±Â¤Â¿Â¤ÃÃÃÂ¤ÃÂ¤Â¿" ,   >"ÃÃÂÃÂTÂ¤Â¬ÃÂ¬ÃÃÂ¤ÃÂIÃÃÂ¤Â¬Â}ÂÃ¬Â¤ÃÂºÃÃÃ¯Â¤Ã²Â½Ã¬Â¤Â±Â¤Â¿Â¤ÃÃÃÂ¤ÃÂ¤Â¿"  *; > >+1/ "ÃÃÂÃÂTÂ¤Â¬ÃÂ¬ÃÃÂ¤ÃÂIÃÃÂ¤Â¬Â}ÂÃ¬Â¤ÃÂºÃÃÃ¯Â¤Ã²Â½Ã¬Â¤Â±Â¤Â¿Â¤ÃÃÃÂ¤ÃÂ¤Â¿" /  >"ÃÃÂÃÂTÂ¤Â¬ÃÂ¬ÃÃÂ¤ÃÂIÃÃÂ¤Â¬Â}ÂÃ¬Â¤ÃÂºÃÃÃ¯Â¤Ã²Â½Ã¬Â¤Â±Â¤Â¿Â¤ÃÃÃÂ¤ÃÂ¤Â¿" ,   >"ÃÃÂÃÂTÂ¤Â¬ÃÂ¬ÃÃÂ¤ÃÂIÃÃÂ¤Â¬Â}ÂÃ¬Â¤ÃÂºÃÃÃ¯Â¤Ã²Â½Ã¬Â¤Â±Â¤Â¿Â¤ÃÃÃÂ¤ÃÂ¤Â¿"  *; > >-----Original Message----- >From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu  >[mailto:DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu]  >On Behalf Of Kenneth Forster >Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:07 AM >To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu >Subject: [DMDX] RE: long non-alphabet sutimuli > >Nahoko, > >There isn't anything special about displaying more than 4 Chinese > >characters.  At a guess, I'd say that you must have something like the > >following in your item: > >+001  "ÃÂ¿ÃÃ©ÃÃ" "ÃÃÂ´ÃÂ³Ã¶ÃÃÃÃÃÂ°"  etc. > >That is, more than one set of quotation marks within a frame.  That's why > >DMDX is suggesting a missing frame delimiter. > >The following is one way you can do S/D matching: > >+001 "ÃÂ¿ÃÃ©ÃÃÃÃÂ´ÃÂ³Ã¶ÃÃÃÃÃÂ°" %140 / !*  "ÃÂ¿ÃÃ©ÃÃÃÃÂ´ÃÂ³Ã¶ÃÃÃÃÃÂ°"; > >Note that the "%140" builds in a delay before the second comparison stimulus > >is presented.  This gives the subject time to read the first sentence and to > >get ready for the second.  The "!" in the second frame prevents the first > >from being erased.  Also, the entire display stays on the screen until the > >subject responds (or the timeout is reached). > >--k.i.f. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu [mailto:DMDX- > > > owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu] On Behalf Of nahoko > > > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:35 AM > > > To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu > > > Subject: [DMDX] long non-alphabet sutimuli > > > > > > Hallo, > > > I am a master's student at University of Essex. I am planning to conduct > > > Sentence Matching Experiment in Japanese, > > > And have problems in displaying a long sentence containing several > > > Chinese characters (Hiragana and Katakana are okey to be displayed). > > > When the string of Chinese characters are more than 4, the error message > > > "frame has multiple test segment, possible missing frame delimeter". > > > If someone knows how to display long sentences in Chinese chracter, > > > please let me know. > > > Also, if someone has a format for Sentence Matching, I would appriciate > > > if I could take a look. (Mine uses <% 0>, maybe not a good idea). > > > > > > Nahoko KAMEO > > > > > > ==================================================================== > > >    Send mail to DMDX-request@psy1.psych.arizona.edu with the word > > >   'unsubscribe' by itself with no quotes in the body of the email > > >   to be removed from the list.  The list archive is available here: > > >  > http://psy1.psych.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/DMDX/thread > > > ==================================================================== > > >==================================================================== > >    Send mail to DMDX-request@psy1.psych.arizona.edu with the word > >   'unsubscribe' by itself with no quotes in the body of the email > >   to be removed from the list.  The list archive is available here: > >  >http://psy1.psych.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/DMDX/thread > >====================================================================                                                 /"\\   -jonathan (j.c.f.)                            \\ /                                                  X      ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL  / \\    If it wasn't so warm out today, it would be cooler.