Re: The GOv gets tough on Net Users.....er Pirates.. >>>>> "A" == Adam L Beberg  writes:     A> I'm not displeased you're trying to help, just frustrated that     A> employers can demand such rediculous combinations of skills     A> with insane years of experience. >>>From my 25+ years in the playing field, IMHO the art of job-hunting (for those not yet de-jobbed) is the art of getting past the HR-stage interview and into the engineer-to-engineer interview.  HR is not being honest with you so there's no ethical quandry to be totally honest with them: If they want experience numbers that would place you in the OAK project, lead them to believe that you have "something roughly equivalent" (ie "it wasn't 5 years, but it was three intense years with plenty of overtime") -- they are playing a bluff in saying /they/ know the job requirements so you're perfectly within poker rules to bluff back to say you have it. If you /don't/ have the requisite Right Stuff, the engineers can usually suss it out pretty fast during the second interview.  Most often, their choice is based 90% on "who can I work with" and only maybe 10% on "how much/little will we have to tutor this candidate?" --  Gary Lawrence Murphy  TeleDynamics Communications Inc  Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)