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Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed Warning: (Original Message.B64). What? ----- End of forwarded messages [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, Carl, please wake up so I can  welcome you to Real World. Now you have seen why I believe the so-prevalent idea of using email filters (as opposed to a much more agressive approach of 'hunt them down, torture and kill them') is such a dismal failure. Why is email filtering such a failure, with its 'white lists', 'black lists', 'grey lists', search for certain words/phrases, IP addresses, and other gyrations?  Well, aside from the fact we should not have to go to that effort just to send/get a piece of email, the smart-mouths around here tell us that (1) we have no right to take a more aggresive stance with the cretins who have essentially ruined email for all of us, and (2) the cretins may 'get even' by suing us for denial (of their) service, and (3) most of us are brain-diseased idiots with our tin foil hats and how would we know we had chosen the right person to experience our wrath; we couldn't possibly know anything about anything since 'knowing anything' is a monopoly exclusive to themselves, and (4)[one of my favorites] as the nitwit said to me one day here, "Oh, we have no right to tell others what they can and cannot do with their sites". My isn't that _so precious_. To my response, he wrote back and ordered me to NEVER SPEAK TO HIM AGAIN!! and I have not, but he occassionally writes me again here and pops off his mouth each time he overflows.  So he, and his ilk will continue to struggle along, filtering their mail while I and my ilk will continue to (as time permits, there being so much of it to spend our time on) continue to forward the most choice and juiciest bits of spam each day to trained investigators who will correctly identify the spammers and viri writers _on a one for one basis_ telling them to LEAVE US ALONE, and allowing the investigators to act as our agents in making these statements to the offenders. You see, Carl, you cannot filter based on name or IP address; they  have gotten so smart they use _our real names and email addresses_ to  send us their stuff ... although 'ptownson@telecom-digest.org' is not exactly how I send legitimate mail out from here but please do not  tell them how my stuff is _really addressed_ least they start using that instead.   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