Re: [sugar] Rebe I think the biggest point to be made here is an argument for a "document" or
"object" of sorts.  Etoys definitely seems to have most of the types of
interaction and media embedding solutions I believe Rebecca and I both want,
but (as far as I know, though I admittedly don't know that much) it does so
in an all encompassing environment.  What we really need is a lightweight
format that lets one pass around these "scratchpads" or "collages" as
objects, so the teacher can create a file, pass it out as homework, etc.  I
could be very wrong in my assumptions, though, so please correct me where I
am.  I see lots of potential for Etoys, and I'd like to better understand
how it integrates with Sugar now, and how we can push it in the most
effective direction.

- Eben

On 6/21/07, Bert Freudenberg  wrote:
>
> Indeed, "scratchpad" describes Etoys pretty precisely ;)
>
> You can draw, write (even with multi-column text layout flowing
> around abjects), and of course calculate.
>
> It's not just "type anywhere and a curve pops up", although in fact
> such an extension exists (but not included in the OLPC Etoys
> version): called MathMorphs and MorphicWrappers done by the
> Argentinian Squeak community a couple years ago:
>         http://www.dm.uba.ar/MathMorphs/
>
> and updated to work in recent Squeak releases
>
>         http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5855
>
> If there is enough interest in this (and I agree it's a great
> environment for exploring Math) we might try to find someone porting
> it to the OLPC version. Or maybe it just works if installed, I
> haven't tried (unfortunately our plates are still full with lower-
> level stuff).
>
>
> - Bert -
>
> On Jun 21, 2007, at 22:01 , Eben Eliason wrote:
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> > Rebecca -
> >
> > This sounds similar to some of my ideas for "Collage"...allowing
> > combinations of text, drawing, image, and other media formats in a
> > freeform canvas.  The response there seemed that Etoys was, in many
> > ways, already providing such a thing.  I think this is a really
> > interesting area though, and the potential to be able to send
> > multimedia documents around, specifically in an educational
> > environment, is huge. Do you have more thoughts on specifically how
> > this could be distinguished from Etoys?
> >
> > Additionally, there is the Sophie project, but I'm not that
> > familiar with it or how far along they've come with the project on
> > the XO.
> >
> > - Eben
> >
> >
> > On 6/21/07, Rebecca Gettys  wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > I had an idea while playing witha green machine...this may be a little
> > late, I don't know. What if ther was some sort of "scratchpad"
> > activity,
> > not draw, or write,or calculator but a kind fusion of all three.
> > mathimatical equasions could be typed out and then they could solve
> > with
> > typing and or drawing for their work, and they could write guides and
> > picture books and such with this activity as well. Is this in
> > possible/in the plans/something similar is being made???
> > ~Rebecca Gettys
> >
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