skippoboxcom skip montanaro greg case wasnt obvious im strong proponent filtering greg junk mail early possible ie right smtp data greg command completed filtering spam mua seems greg stupid time gets mua spammer greg already stolen bandwidth two problems see filtering early 1 everyone receiving email via server contribute ham stew making bayesian classification less effective 2 given false positives absolutely put mail somewhere cant simply delete also dont like tmdaish business replying msg says heres really get message puts extra burden correspondents individual would prefer put spammish messages somewhere review anonymous sysadmin might trust personal email nothing greg personally prefer manage stuff user agent level bandwidth heck lot cheaper time skip fri 6 sep 2002 134835 0500 spambayes deployment