Re: What I want to see in SA RBL support Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> On 08.10.07 14:56, John Rudd wrote:
>> I see in another thread a discussion about what people want to see in SA 
>> RBL support.  I thought I'd throw in my $.02.
>>
>> I want a non-binary setting for "use RBLs or not".
> 
>> I want:
>>
>> use_rbls	zen.spamhaus.org list.dsbl.org foo.bar.baz
> 
> AFAIK you can always disable checking specified RBLs by setting their score
> to 0, e.g.
> 
> score __RCVD_IN_ZEN 0

I think you need to re-read what I wrote.  I specifically was arguing 
against that technique.  It's obtuse and a waste of people's time to 
force them to track down these scores with every new release (yes, you 
put them in your site wide cf file, but you still have to track them 
down, because they sometimes change names and sometimes new ones show up 
or old ones disappear).  If had read what I wrote the first time, you 
wouldn't need to be re-told that now.


>> Advantages:
>>
>>    1) if new RBLs get added in an upgrade or update, I don't have to 
>> track them down and disable them (I only use RBLs which I locally cache, 
>> to keep performance from being terrible, so when SA adds new ones, it's 
>> incredibly annoying).  If they're not in my explicit list, then they're 
>> disabled by default.  If someone wants to always use the SA 
>> current/default RBLs, they can just set it to "all".
> 
> I used RBLs even when they were not cached and I didn't have problem. Even
> if/when they timeout, it only causes small delay between receiving mail and
> delivering it to mailbox.

The mail flow on my machines is heavy enough that when the zones I use 
aren't cached, I notice the difference.  And I'm not on a slow network link.


>>    2) the zone name never changes, so I don't have to care what the 
>> rule names might be (in case they get changed, as has happened a few 
>> times, and, as above, the result tends to be rather annoying).
> 
> wrong. the zen.spamhaus.org changed some time ago from sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org
> and others may change in the future too.

wrong.  sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org did not change names.  It was a different 
zone with different content.  They specifically _created_ the 
zen.spamhaus.org zone _instead_ of changing the name of 
sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org to sbl-xbl-pbl.spamhaus.org.  For a while (and 
perhaps still) sbl-xbl still existed while zen was in operation. 
Different zones.  Different content.  One did not change names to become 
the other.


