I think that's what Priest, I mean I don't know, Priest probably has a whole history of how he got is Esquire style, but Vincent went over there and had something to do with it, and I really think that taking the old style stuff and giving it a new spin helped, and the difference between what we're doing and what the California crowd was doing and this was also the time of punk rock was that we were using traditional typefaces and they were
