 these are hopefully the points you addressed in  your pre  presentations you're going to show me in a few minutes .  requirements are  teletext , docking station , audio signal , small screen , with some extras that  button information .  does somebody have any comments on these requirements ? Maybe ? No ? These are just the the things we thought of , so maybe if you figured something else or thought of something else , just let me know . So now everybody knows what we're do we're doing ,  I suggest let's get started with the presentations . 'Kay I'm  gonna inform you about the trend-watching I've done over the past few days . And  besides that  I deployed some trend-watchers to Milan and Paris to well get all of the newest trends . And I've consulted some additional trend-watch trend-watchers , after the original trend-watchers return , about what the the best design would be .  for our  group , we're focusing on the people of sixty to eighty y years old , this is  , these factors are slightly more equal .  this is , this image will give you a little bit of an impression about  the look-and-feel that  the remote should have . Just keep it simple and Well the docking station and small screen would be our main points of interest , because this would be the These would  be the innovativeness in the remote control .  well the trend-watchers I consulted advised that it b should be , the remote control and the docking station should be telephone-shaped .  besides that we would advise  to bring two editions , one with a wood-like colour and maybe feel , and one with a grey-black colour . Any questions about the the trends ? marketing: Any questions ? project manager: Mayb user interface:  no . So  only  buttons  for  sound ,  for  on-off ,   shifting u up  sa  ca channel or  down shifting down .  you can think about   when you lost your  remote control , you can  call it and  it gives an  sig signal . And and  for  shifting up a sen  c ch channel or  for   putting out  sound or something , you can  just give a sign  say  sound off or A and  yeah .  double push push  , if double click ,  so  you get  big  subtitles , for  people    which c f  who can't  read small  subtitles . So   Yeah and w we have to keep  in general buttons  so  we've got  the buttons we have to use . The on-off , sound on-off , sound higher or lower ,  the numbers ,  zero to   nine . And  we can  build in a function f which  shows the channel or some  which the t television is on . Just  we can put  the on-off button  over in this  corner ,  almost  e all  remote controls  are using a on-off button on that place . So   and a special  button for shifting up  and  shifting down  channel ,  it's  on place where  the thumb of of the So you you can  easily  shift up or shift down . So  and  all the f functions for subtitle  one button ,  for sound   and  for our design ,   we have to discuss about it  I think  so  the form of it so project manager: Okay .  for the energy source we can use a basic battery or , a as an optional thing , a kinetic energy , like in a watch , which you just shake and it produces energy .  for the casing ,  the  manufacturing department can deliver  a flat casing , single or double curved casing .  as a case supplement , we could  , I thought of that l later ,  a rubber  belt , like a anti-slip . And the chip-set ,  it says simple here , but it should be advanced , because we're using an L_C_D_  screen . And as  the trend-watcher presentation showed ,  people like wood , but it raises the price and it doesn't really fit the image , unless we would start two product lines .  first I think we can talk about the energy source , since that's  has a pretty big influence on production price ,  and image . user interface: project manager:  so  f I think first of all we have to see  it is possible to introduce kinetic energy in our budget , I think . marketing: And how exactly does the kinetic energy work ? industrial designer: Well y you basically shake your remote , and then it powers up . Well personally I don't think that older people like to shake their remote control before they use it . marketing: And I think our docking station could be one of the marketing issues with which we can  get great popularity for our product . user interface: But marketing:  wel user interface: what's the function ? Yeah f for loading up  the batteries . marketing: Yeah you could load up the batteries , user interface: B b marketing: you could  insert the find the lost remote control function in there .  it's  just a small display so I believe  it will run on one battery for  six months or f or or more . project manager:  user interface:  so project manager:  well I think  elderly people just like to have everything in place . project manager: And I don't think they they like  remotes just laying everywhere in their rooms . project manager: But I think it's  more efficient and cheaper to put it in the docking station . project manager: So you have a but button on your docking station which you can push , and then it starts beeping . project manager: And then we can we can still use the voice recognition , but maybe then for only the the channels . marketing: I'm wondering  what will the voice recognition mean for the production price ? project manager: Yeah . marketing: 'Cause in our earlier  market research , if you'd allow me to go to the flat board , SMARTboard .  we also  asked if w they would , if people would pay more for speech recognition in a remote control . marketing: So if that would increase the price for which we're selling our remote control user interface:  . user interface: marketing: I think that would be better to  insert in our other product , that is meant for the project manager: Yeah . industrial designer: But that would also go for the L_C_D_ screen then I guess . It's a bit higher percentage , but marketing:  well this is Yeah but this is here the question was , would you prefer it . And on top of that the L_C_D_ screen would  help in making the remote control easier to use . user interface: But  is  our  research  about  bi large  L_C_D_ sh  display , or  just a small one  we want to  use ? marketing:  well this was for like an L_C_D_ screen like you would have on a on the the most advanced mobile phones . project manager: I personally think the L_C_D_ screen we wanna use , with the extra information , I think nobody has anything against it . And I don't think the I don't think it will be a lot easier to use , as well . If we don't have the voice recognition , it will it won't use a lot of energy to use . project manager: So in that case we could use kinetic  energy , but I think just a simple battery which you can reload on a docking station is just as good . industrial designer: Well there isn't any choice there because we're using the the the the display . project manager:  but I think it will attract elderly people who wanna have something exclusive , which they can show off to their grandkids . project manager: Look I've got a new remote control , and  industrial designer: user interface:  I dunno . project manager: But with colour was a lot more expensive ? Or ? industrial designer:  I dunno . project manager: It's a lot more difficult to to handle and to to get in the right shape . So   you 'cause  Yeah with  mobile phones   so  like the Nokia mobile phones ,  when you can change the case of it . So   you have just to make one  standard  remote control , and  yeah you can sell  few  project manager: You can sell the cases . Because  then you can advertise as well with the Give your grandfather a new case for his remote control , or whatever . industrial designer: marketing: project manager: Because that's a it's something extra , it's something other remotes don't have , user interface: Yeah . marketing: 'Cause we would have to make one w  control which would fit in with a wooden cover and a plastic cover . So marketing: So that would project manager: you suggest we should design two different telephones on which you can apply , yeah remote controls , on which you can apply different case covers , for example . marketing: Well I wouldn't design a telephone industrial designer: marketing: but user interface: marketing: Well no I think w we should just , we should then just design one  project manager: Remote . marketing: one remote , but it would have to be fancy with either the wood cover or the plastic one . project manager: So everybody's okay with the changing covers ? I think that's a good  good option . marketing: Could you explain that a little more ? industrial designer: Well the the general like most older remotes are flat , just straight . marketing: And what would single curved and double curved mean ? industrial designer:  it would just only affect the form , for as far as I know . project manager:  but the form has to be  It has to It's has to be possible to stand up ? Or just only to lie down ? marketing: No just to lie down . project manager: And the the cover of the the docking station is also marketing: We'll go for that . What type of interface do we want to use ?  maybe you can make a little drawing of it on the marketing: project manager: Does somebody have ideas for a form or user interface:  we can just use the regular form of it , but it's  not quite  fancy . marketing:  you  said you wanted to put the  changing channels button on the right side , user interface: Yeah . marketing: Well  I think that was a very good point 'cause I pointed out earlier that a lot of remotes cause R_S_I_ . Yeah we Is it possible to  program it s so  you got on the left side  or on the right side  buttons for for shifting u up and shifting up ? And on the  other   o other side  buttons for  shifting ,  for for the sound ? Or Or isn't it ? marketing: For the volume . marketing: that could Yeah we could do that but I'm not sure if that would be very good for the easy , ease of use . project manager: Usabili Yeah ease of use will be a lot more difficult , user interface: Yeah okay . project manager: marketing: But if we would make  a changing channels and changing volume button on both sides , that would certainly yield great options for the design of the remote . Or we have to make a left  For lefties project manager: Can't we make  Can't we make a remote which you can flip over and use on the same user interface: and  project manager: functions as the normal one ? user interface: You mean  project manager: Then you have to user interface: Yeah if project manager: Let's see if I ca A blank one . But is it a problem that left-handed persons use a different hand ? I think the functions are that basic that nobody should have any problems with  choosing a channel marketing: Yeah . user interface: So  it's project manager: I think we could just  leave it a normal shape . industrial designer: The the single curved so I'm not really sure what they're gonna look like , but I think it's something like this . project manager: I suggest  the single curved , because maybe the curve is pretty good to put the the screen in . user interface: project manager:  so that elderly people can  use the remote control and at the same time look easily at the screen , because it's a bit , it has a bit of a angle . user interface: So  Do you say this  S   you got like  sort of a I believe There ? marketing: user interface: So  you want to put a display over here ? Or not ? project manager: Yeah .  project manager: But now it's user interface: we can make it  project manager: Do you have it upside down or user interface:  ? project manager: Do you have it user interface: That's the top . user interface:  rem project manager: So just flip it a hundred and eighty degrees around then you get here . user interface: Yeah but this place  project manager: If you can have this one , you turn it like this . user interface:  it's Yeah I dunno  project manager: Because  maybe your hand is in the way , if you have the display here . user interface: industrial designer: It's more logical to have it on top as well project manager: I think i industrial designer: because , like on your mobile phone , it's always above . But  the on-off button ,  still on the top  project manager: Yeah still here user interface: Yeah . Where's my mouse ? Then We've got a general idea of the concepts and the materials we're going to use . So now for the next meeting  we'll have to look at the look-and-feel design . project manager: And then we're going to  try to finish our project , and  make a good design for all the grandfathers and grandmothers , I think . I'm not sure if you're going to start right away to work together or I think you're going to fill in the questionnaires first <doc-sep>project manager:  minutes from the last meeting which were essentially that we  had decided on roles for each of you , however ,  there are some changes that I've got from on high user interface: Okay . project manager: that  are a bit  well w what I didn't actually realise it was that the  this is for a specific television . project manager: actually I'll get to that at the end point number four ,  we'll get what you've got and then we can see what we can adapt from it . marketing: user interface: marketing: Sh do you want me to hold it ? project manager:  there we go , just screw 'em on in . Gonna have to swap them round so marketing: So , after that ? project manager: now , it was function F_ eight .  , as we have decided in the last meeting that I have to find out , sorry , yeah sure . project manager: marketing: yes , I have to look at the  market potential for this product , like consumer likings and everything , what is the potential for this product and are we able to achieve our a net profit or our aims or not ? Then project manager: P press F_ five to start it first . A a detailed market survey on consumers was done to find out their likings and dislikings , what they prefer what they not prefer , w what problems they do encounter in all this type of things . And what we got was , we found that if you  , what they th what problems they are having with different  remote controls available in the market . So , we have to put stress on this ,  we have to take care of this fact also like our design ,  should be appropriate , should be good looking for the consumers .  and even  the good thing about this is that eighty percent of users they are willing to pay high  pay more for this  good looking remote controls also . So even if the available market goes for the available  even if the market goes for the available remote control is less even then we can sell it at twenty five Euros , which maybe which may seem quite high but if our looks are are if the re remote control we design have a good better  better look  designs , then we can hope that consumers will prefer these g remote controls . marketing: Then And the second thing , some some companies they think that they should have more and more functions of the users  or in their remote controls , but rather than those having more functions in the remote controls we should emphasise what actually consumer want , what they operate , rather than making it too complicated . Because mostly it has been found that fifty percent of the users they use only ten percent of the buttons , so there is no point of having ninety percent buttons making the remote controls too bulky , too complicated too expensive a because I think I believe that technology is useful only if  the consumers they want to use it . user interface: So , sorry I was just gonna say , what was the question for this ? Or is are you coming on to that ? marketing: Ah t look all the market potential , what  how we should design consu our remote controls , what they should be there so as to en enhance our profit , enhance our sales . So these percentages are are what ? marketing: Yeah , these are different age group persons like  sorry , I can open it in another way . If we look at the costs whether the consumers they are willing to  pay more for speech recognition in a remote control or not , we can find that they up to a thirty five years age group we have a very good disliking for this  this  point , like for speech recognition in a remote control . industrial designer: marketing: So we can emphasise on this point also like , because it will definitely enhance our sales in this ag in this particular age group from  fifteen to thirty five , user interface:  . marketing: and I  and I think that most of the users of the rem  T_V_ are belong to this age group . marketing: So , and project manager: marketing: And then project manager: Fifteen to twe marketing: Yes .  if we look at this data how how  h how what are the problems the consumers are facing with the existing remote controls in the market . project manager: marketing: They find that thirt  thirty five percent  thirty four percent of the consumers they find too difficult to operate a remote control . So it should be in such a way that it should be easy to learn how to operate these remote controls and we should provide pl  spe  proper manuals for its use also so as that people consumers could easily learn . They need not to have any , much technical knowledge to see  to know how to operate these remote controls . marketing: So this is also a very goo  major factor to loo  take into consideration to enhance our profits and sales . user interface: Yep , sure , that's cool ,  marketing: Yeah we have to take that out . user interface: Okay , and then what do I press , F_ eight ? marketing:  F_ eight . user interface: Okay and then how do I press the the big one , to get it on to the big project manager:  F_ five . user interface: F_ five and I press that again to get it off as well do I ? marketing: Escape . project manager: F_ five and escape'll bring it back and just  the left button for advancing . user interface: Okay , so  I'm the interface design designer , User Interface Designer sorry ,  I'm concerned with  w what effect the apparatus should have on the user and  I'm I'm also I want to point out that our motto , put the fashion in electronics , project manager: user interface: so obviously we as a company we want to make our products trendy and fashionable , it's a big concern of ours . Okay , and how do I press n just the next button ? project manager:  just a left  user interface: The arrow ? Okay . user interface: So  I looked at existing designs and also  the information that Raj gave us was very useful about what people like , what people dislike .  and what people fashionable , because we said people between twenty five and thirty five were the main  buyers of of our T_V_ I think . user interface: And ergonomics , we said  , I don't know I haven't actually been able to do any of this myself , project manager: industrial designer: user interface: but  maybe that comes up , I don't know . user interface: And the findings , well the basic that was the basic function to send messages to the television set .  , so they need to be included , but I've got some pictures here of some leading ones . I don't know how to get to them , project manager:  if you if you escape then you can see your bar . user interface: You know they're grey , they've  this one's got loads of buttons , it's hard to tell from here what they actually do , project manager: user interface: and they don't look very exciting at all .  , personally I prefer this one just because it's looks easier use , it's a bit more sleek with more of this silver stuff , project manager: user interface: but there you go , that's what we're up against , project manager: user interface: and I think we can do much better than that .  , well I think we need to l I think the ergonomics is quite  important ,  project manager: Yeah , particularly if we've  there was a bit in Raj's about R_S_I_ and things as well . And  I thought not too edgy and like a box , more kind of hand-held more  not as  computery and project manager: Organic .  simple designs , like the last one we just saw , not too many buttons and as Raj pointed out , only ten percent fifty percent of people only use ten percent of the buttons , marketing: project manager: user interface: so I think what we can miss out on the buttons we can make up for in design and and how nice it looks . user interface: hand-held and portable I think is portamint is important because T_F_T_ have just  released  I think is it a a remote control for presentations or  and a big seven inch big screen , anyway , so  project manager: Yeah it's like a , yeah . user interface: Yeah , no seven inches isn't that big but  anyway  so hand-held and portable and  m I thought about other functions for T_V_ but as you pointed out people don't actually want that , project manager: Right . project manager: And also the company want to keep it stuck to the T_V_ for  to keep down the production time . And so the last thing I thought w which I quickly mentioned in the other one was maybe a bit of a gimmick to set us apart from other people , like glow-in-the-dark project manager: user interface:  which does already e exist but it's not very widely used I don't think . user interface: or rechargeable station because it's a pain when you run out of batteries . industrial designer: So  , I noticed your talk about speech recognition and whistling , user interface: Okay ? industrial designer: and  I was just curious to know , have we done any research into how many people can whistle ?  , or if project manager: user interface: industrial designer: is that a function we want in the remote ? project manager: do you have trouble whistling ? user interface: I haven't been able to industrial designer: I don't , but I I know a lot of people do right . industrial designer:  it has to be a certain kind of whistle too , right ? project manager: Yeah , I suppose that's true . user interface: - , yeah project manager: Well I suppo  you could y you could have the user interface: or some sort of voice project manager: you could have the basically  instead of a whistle if it's got the voice recognition you could have it just , you know , where are you ? . industrial designer:  a much easier thing is just any loud noise like clapping  , shouting , you know , project manager:  . industrial designer:  and then , what would the response be ? It beeps back at you or something ? project manager: Sounds good . So I plug it in , press F_ five ? Function F_ five ? project manager: Function F_ eight for the  the  industrial designer: Or function F_ eight ? Okay . So as the Industrial Designer my job is to take an input from you guys , user interface: industrial designer:  so it's good you went first , project manager: Alright . industrial designer: and I jotted down some notes as to what are the b needs and  what kind of novel features we can add to differentiate our product from the others . industrial designer:  so Raj told us that  consumers are willing to spend more for fancy products , and  he also mentioned that  the current products don't always match users' operating behaviour .  , a lot of the buttons aren't used , and  he mentioned that they're not fun to use . And  a novel feature which  we just brought up was this this automatic speech recognition feature or noise detection feature for when you lose the remote , project manager: industrial designer: there could be a little microphone on it , and any noise over a certain threshold  it'll pick up as a a distress signal  from you and it'll beep back and say you know oh here I am or something of this sort . But sure surely that would have to be  sort of specific rather than above a threshold 'cause if you had a loud movie on you're likely to get it beeping back at you . industrial designer: Well maybe you could have a   tha that would be a consideration to take into account yes . industrial designer: Yeah well tha that's  for later down the road  , and then as for the user interface it should be trendy ,  and not computery , user interface: industrial designer: right , so more low tech and not too many buttons . project manager: industrial designer: And so I did a little research and unfortunately all I had to work on was our  our corporate archives of the great products we've made before , user interface: industrial designer: which include , you know ,  space craft , coffee makers , and bullet trains Or  or a high speed train . project manager: Ah is that what that is ? user interface: industrial designer: Right and having personally worked with all these products  I have a great deal of experience with  with industrial design of these . If you if you can build space craft you'll have no problem with a remote control , yeah . project manager: industrial designer: You got a a caffeine powered space shuttle train transport to your T_V_ , and  user interface: project manager: marketing:  . Give it one button user interface: industrial designer: and and it's a you know , for the the cowboy in all of us marketing: project manager: industrial designer: I I'm not quite sure what the the function is there but project manager: Right okay . industrial designer: Yeah it's a g  you could have a you know a project manager: Is that just switches on the speech recognition and it's entirely speech operated , is it ? industrial designer: Right . marketing: Fifty million was  prof project manager: Ah now it's fif fifty million Euros we've gotta  we've g marketing: As a profit . project manager: gotta make profit , so we're making that at twelve and a half Euros a time . Well I guess more realistically then , we need a product that's got some kinda nifty outer casing , cheap plastic  , you know ,  that should be just like  a tenth of the price maybe or less . industrial designer: we don't wanna have it project manager: Would it be possible to have the rechargeable idea ? Is that is that gonna mark up a lot ? industrial designer:  . user interface: That might cost more though , 'cause obviously with batteries we don't need to provide , well we provide the first batteries , but it's more , it's that's cheaper to just provide batteries . project manager:  if you think about these base stations now it's essentially just a a lead with a sort of self connecting brake in it , user interface: A battery in it , kinda . industrial designer:  the canonical user interface for these would be just a bunch of buttons , but since we're a cutting edge company , we  of course will have alternatives like  speech recognition , whistling recognition and rocket power project manager: Okay . user interface: industrial designer:  and lastly the transmission interface is  , just some engineering thing you don't have to worry about . industrial designer:  so here's you know , a great schematic that my  apprentice designer gave me . project manager: user interface: industrial designer:  as you can see the the remote control have parts and those parts look like that and  you know it's got a little operating procedure that looks something like that . And I suppose you all know how it works because we've all used it and we wouldn't be in a company designing remote controls if we didn't know what they were so  personal preferences , I think  programmable options which  just require a small amount of memory ,  non volatile memory , just  so the user can put in their favourite channels and maybe their preferred volume settings so that when they turn it on it's not blasting . And the  , the bells and whistles that we mentioned you know , they take more budgeting ,  more technical  expenditure of effort project manager: user interface: industrial designer: and it's also much more likely to not work if if we add these bells and whistles . project manager: Right , also so  a notice I got not very long before the meeting , so didn't manage to forward it on to you , it is let's see , I'll find it myself ,  Ta industrial designer: Okay , I don't think we need to screw it in . project manager: We had that  to dis-include teletext  because it's become outdated , and everybody uses the internet anyway . project manager:  it's only for the television , which I'm presuming means it's for a specific television , user interface: Okay . project manager: and  instead of colours and sorta colour options , they want corporate colour and slogan somehow implemented in the new design . project manager: And the logo  the sort of slogan we put the fa fashion in electronics  I don't know exactly how sort of incorpor  , I guess if you're going for a sort of globular shape you could kind of have it working its way round it or something . project manager: Okay , so , we have to decide on which functions we're going to actually have . project manager: now , we had as listed options we had industrial designer: project manager: speech recognition potentially , flat screen interface , L_C_D_ interface  we also want to limit the number of buttons so we'll pretty much take that one as read . project manager: So sorta strike a balance between a a few and a user interface: Well project manager: or it looks like we're just cutting on the  user interface:  . project manager: I do however have this from over my head , that they don't want teletext on it . project manager:  maybe Raj you could find out what people would think about that , or maybe they'll send marketing: About cost . project manager: some information about that , about  what people , whether people would require  teletext in a remote teletext option in a remote control . So  I take it your position Arlo is that the bells and whistles we've gotta come up with the a gimmick but not too complicated a gimmick . project manager:  so  a a the sort of inkling I'm getting from little bits of  web chatter that I'm getting sent is that they're quite interested in a T_F_T_ display , interactive display . However that does sound a bit like the more complicated design that rav  sorry Raj  said people didn't like . project manager: If you think about standard interfaces that people use already , sort of Windows-style drop down menus or whatever , user interface: project manager: I think maybe that's a bit , going a bit far user interface: Yeah . project manager: but you know like in a basic sense that you could have your basic selection of buttons , and if you hit a sort of menu at the top you have  it goes to a different selection of buttons , so it sorta keeps it simple . project manager:  glow in the dark , is that sort of with a light inside it or is it sort of glow in the dark material ? user interface:  marketing:  . So marketing: I user interface: so I I guess that would be cheaper than a light I think . marketing:  actually I think it's really really very important point  as if we look at the market because people mor fifty percent people they find that the remote controls are often lost somewhere in the remote , in the room . But user interface: Often lost s was that , marketing: yeah are lost project manager: Lost , yeah . But if we add speech recognition as well as glow in the dark then both these factors will help their locating the remote control , user interface: marketing: like if they come and speak something at the remote control  replies to something something and it glows in the dark . Both these factors  both these points will help them to locate the where they have kept this remote control , project manager: That's cool . user interface: - , marketing: and this will definitely enhance our  market sales , project manager: That's cool . project manager:  speech recognition I take it user interface: industrial designer: Oh it's project manager: I don't , I've I know of no products  that use speech recognition well . industrial designer: They're act there there was a remote control that came out two years ago that had a some basic speech recognition on it . You could programme it with your channels and then you say you know like  B_B_C_ one and it goes to that channel . project manager: Really ? industrial designer: Yeah , it didn't work very well though because of this noise interference problem . project manager: Yeah , or a yeah an advert an advert for B_B_C_ two on B_B_C_ one'll switch the channel for you kinda thing . user interface: industrial designer: Right , right , and so there was a lot of this , you'd be watching the T_V_ and then all of a sudden it'd it'd pick up a noise and turn it off or you know or turn the volume off or something , project manager:  . user interface: Well what about industrial designer: user interface: this might get a bit too expensive actually , but what about  something that's built into the T_V_  that you can press and it'll send out a little signal you know like the ones that we can't hear or something project manager: Ah , that's a good idea . user interface: If you find if y industrial designer: Right and then it would do just you know ,  subtractive kind of cancellation of the noise . industrial designer: What you could do then would be you have  a remote controlled by the T_V_ speaker , or not a remo I'm sorry , a microphone by the T_V_ speaker and a transmitter there that sends back to your remote , 'cause you can't  expect  the the television manufacturers to to put that feature into their T_V_s . industrial designer: But yeah , then you have like the little se separate module by the T_V_ speaker project manager: That we should just stick on , yeah . industrial designer: Right , and then the remote control would know  what's being produced by the television . project manager: And that's a sort of basic R_F_ kind of frequency so it'll be cheap . Yeah that's certainly possible then an another thing was about this losing the remote and trying to find it again . If you do have this sorta speech interface to it , you don't even need to find it . You just say you know ,  whatever you whatever you want the remote for , you know to change the channel or to  turn the T_V_ on and off , you just shout your command to it and it would do it for you if it's within you know , within hearing range . And  you know it could be somewhere in the room y that you've no idea where it is and it would still do its job . user interface: That could also be built into the T_V_ though , which might make our remote control a bit obsolete .  so I think rather than and that also kind of takes out the speech recognition in terms of the interference of it not working very well and things like that , user interface:  . project manager: So I think if we're going to go well  like the thing about the there's the problem with the T_F_T_ or the L_C_D_ kind of thing is if you're also wanting the the kind of  organic globby sort of feeling to it then you might have trouble incorporating the screen . project manager: but I guess not I thin we'll just we'll just pretend that's not a problem . user interface: Maybe not even all of it 'cause we said  colours and fashion w were important so maybe  just like a little l line that's kind of around the outside and then you can make the rest a different colour . industrial designer: Yeah , no th the material's cheap but it's just  the the glow in the dark material needs some light to charge it you know , and then  if you're , if you're sitting in the dark for too long it  it won't glow any more . project manager:  Okay , well we can use we can still use the glow in the dark as a gimmick essentially , user interface: Yeah , project manager:  if we're gonna have to user interface: 'cause what I thought , main project manager: if we're gonna have the logo on as well , bright yellow logo in our our  slogan . project manager:  then you know they're gonna be fairly brightly coloured anyway , and we can have sort of a a a trimming as well , of the glow in the dark material , just as gimmickyness . 'Cause yeah , that w more than finding it , that was more like you know if you're watching a film in the dark , you can  still see the remote control . project manager: Alright , so n sorta if if if we're gon if we're gonna go with the idea of   of feedback , sort of remote finder , then that kinda stuffs that one out then .  so we've got do we want to go with the T_F_T_ idea or the is that far too expensive ? industrial designer:  yeah we're getting a lot of features now , I I think project manager: Well  I think I think the sort of find the finder things  it's  I could probably write the circuit diagram for that myself . project manager:  industrial designer: Well , I think a consideration too is that these  remotes get abused a lot , you know they get thrown around , user interface:  . industrial designer: there's a good chance the the T_F_T_ screen would break or  get damaged . user interface: So is that one of our definite requirements that they wa that it needs a T_F_T_ screen ? project manager:  no ,  that was going on ravs  Raj's sort of  marketing research I guess . So that's sort of included in your sub-module kind of stuff ,  industrial designer: Yeah  . project manager: If you could find out that  marketing: Totally , it takes cheap speech recognition , she they wi project manager:  I think we're gonna scratch the speech recognition as a bit of a industrial designer: Oh . project manager:  expensive , user interface: Yeah you think so ? industrial designer: Oh no it's it's much cheaper than the T_F_T_ , it's just a microphone and some some integrated circuits . industrial designer: And it'd it'd be a small vocabulary speech recognition system , project manager: Is it not the circuits that cost industrial designer: like a project manager: Oh right , okay . industrial designer: project manager:  well that kind of takes back the R_F_ the R_F_ remote sort of idea as well . marketing: project manager: Excellent , so we'll go with speech recognition , yeah ? industrial designer: Okay . And what else was I thinking of that I haven't written down and therefore fallen out my head , user interface:  project manager: programmability . project manager:  user interface: if it's not too expensive s I think it's a good gimmick .  can you put all these reports in the project documents folder if they're not already in there as well . industrial designer: project manager: And  I'll put any I'm I'm putting anything I do in there anyway , so  user interface: And where is it sorry ? project manager:  pro  project documents . industrial designer: So it should be when you save project manager: On A_M_I_ scenario controller . marketing:  it is in shared documents ? industrial designer: And then  hit that little folder up thing again . project manager: And I will tr getting strings of  information , I'll try and forward any specific to anybody in particular , as soon as I get them now , rather than industrial designer: project manager: I was about to sort of tell you about the changes before the meeting , and then the meeting turned up , so user interface: Okay . project manager: So user interface: What I thought as well about the material is  maybe not this kind of material , but maybe more like  this kind of rubbery material , it's a bit more bouncy , like you said they get chucked around a lot . user interface: The rubber rather than project manager: More sort of  flesh-like than plasticky sort of . marketing:  but we have to take care like project manager: industrial designer: user interface: marketing: But we have to take care of our children also if they means if children catch hold of your or if they chew it it shouldn't be too harmful . user interface: marketing: So we have to safety point of view also , we have to take care . industrial designer: user interface: Oh I think wi with the more organic shape of it it won't be as it won't as have many sharp corners as that , so that's something good ,  project manager: Yeah . user interface: industrial designer: We could go completely out of the box and make the thing a big red ball foam ball . marketing: project manager: industrial designer: And there's no buttons at all , it's always on , and just yell at it , and it works . project manager: yeah it's gonna have to be it's gonna be have a big yellow foam ball , yeah , sorry . user interface: Yeah , d with the colour ,  does it have to be all yellow , do you know ? project manager: Please God no . project manager: my reaction to an all-yellow remote control wouldn't be anything other than horror , so I think just having it user interface: Yeah . project manager: And I'll see if I can argue with boss about putting the user interface: Cool . project manager: what was it ? We put we put fashion into Whoops , it's not working . project manager: Okay , that felt a bit more like a something with order and and reason to it than the last one <doc-sep> I'll briefly go through the  notes of the of the last meeting  just done in in note form and I haven't attributed anything to individuals , because we're working strictly as a team here and  n nobody's working equally , user interface: Sorry .  we we s we saw that the the problems with existing remote controls were the  b a boring shape and boring colour .  and and we s we saw that the  what we needed to do was to to make sure the device  controls several items , that switching was easy , that you shouldn't need to point the thing at  anything in particular ,  that it need to be contoured to make it interesting , that the keys might be concave , simply because that hasn't been done before that we know of .  should have interchangeable fascias so people can personalise it ,  illuminated so that people can see it in dark rooms .  before I do that , however , I will go through some new project requirements that  the the management have placed on us and  will be challenging in terms of what we discussed at the first meeting .  the  the ma the management has had it's own thoughts on this and  the they don't necessarily agree with with what we  we thought .  and and then we'll as a result of that we will then talk through the the functions that we see the the device  actually b carrying out , and we have  forty minutes to do this in and I  Anyway . Now , the n the new requirements are  the the management team see that  teletext is no longer of any importance given the  the rise of the internet .  now , what is not q quite clear from their directive is whether they mean th they don't want it to cover teletext or whether they don't want it to cover , you know , videos , D_V_D_s ,  satellite boxes , which   we saw as being fundamental to the  to the exercise .  and on that basis  I I think we we need to bear that in mind ,  but possibly  keep at the backs of our minds that the reality that people even when they  no longer they don't look at teletext anymore , they certainly do look at other things .  the the logo  being at b the bottom of the screen there , the the the two R_s in grey against  a yellow background .  now this doesn't necessarily mean that we have to give up some of our ideas about making it attractive to the t to the market .  it also has to be simple , which to some extent goes along w with the first one , and that we've already said that it must be simple 'cause that's what people want anyway .  but they also want it to be simple to get it to the market quickly , which    is is is their choice , but   we we need to talk that through .  okay , so  after the meeting it'll be summarised and  industrial designer: user interface: project manager:  notes sent out and  etcetera .  again I there is no order of precedence here  so I I I'll leave it up to you to who who who thinks they would like to go go first ? marketing:  I don't mind . project manager: marketing: I got a how do I start there ? project manager: Oh , if you click on the   the one that that looks like a projection screen , no the one to the right of that . Took hundred people and covered all the aspects of what  is needed by people and what they want to see .  everything kinda from functionality and how individual functions are how mu how how often they're used and how much their necessary and stuff .  along with  looking less ugly , if it looks better , eighty percent of people said they'd spend more money on it . Which is a a plus for us , if we can make it look better , it'd be  more cost effective and we can put the price up . I can empl I kinda take that to mean as  they they don't  they , yeah , they only use they only work for the television or yeah like as in in my flat I've got six remote controls for a stereo system , a digital box , a D_V_D_ player , a video player and T_V_ . If it was   th my behaviour is to use multiple things at the same time and multiple remotes aren't really matched well to my behaviour . I took to mean that they just they use it a lot , they use it regularly rather than standing up and manually change channels or volume . And  yeah ,  I think the big issue is fifty percent users only use ten percent of the buttons , 'cause  wh if we got a remote that like well we'll have some buttons taken off by the lack of teletext , but  oh and we're going to see  on the  that some of the functions like audio settings aren't h hardly ever used and used very aren't considered relevant by the user . marketing: I dunno maybe some kind of system of you press a button on the T_V_ or maybe that's b it would have to incorporate , but like some kind of system where you can f use something else to find the remote control . And  , yep , the  time taken to learn new remote controls is  don't want to make it too complicated , easy to use for  new like first time users and stuff . And  repetitive strain injury , I suppose we should make it more comfortable and make ma possibly even use have to make it , yeah , fewer buttons , like I was saying about the whole mice the mouse idea of it feels more comfortable . project manager: Gosh , must be some telly addicts out there if they get R_S_I_ from their television remote , is all I can say . It also asked  if we would if people would pay more for speech recognition project manager: marketing: and younger people say they would . And  there was another section on our on the report for  L_C_D_ displays , but the data wasn't there , so . project manager: Yeah , I must say that  the  I c can't remember what  f you know phone service I was using the other day , but that had sorta speech recognition which worked  remarkably well , so that is indeed a   a thought marketing: And  it would cut out the R_S_I_ as well if you project manager: and it it cuts out  I was was gonna say , you can't get a lot of R_S_I_ , industrial designer: project manager: j just get jaw ache . marketing: Yeah ,  oh yeah , so possibly the speech recognition is possibly something could add into the design .  functionality ,  like people's opinions on functionality , the relevance to the remote and how often they're used . Using the using the d swi the power switch to switch on T_V_ is a high relevance of nine , but it's not frequently used . So m we can maybe even start to cut down on or I was possibly even thinking of a design that maybe some of the buttons are hidden from everyday use . And keep the v volume selection and channel selection very easily user interface: It could be oh  I was just gonna say  maybe like the flip phones that they use ? industrial designer:  . user interface: that flip out and they have the like texting , and then the numbers on one side , marketing: Oh yeah . project manager: If people really don't use those buttons to any extent at all  remove them altogether . marketing: Just remove them completely ? project manager: We we could actually have we could actually have a remote control with  user interface: That might be the project manager: I wonder whether we could get the remote control with no buttons at all if we went for voice recognition , given that  the  now the the age structure we were looking at   w we had usage by age structure , what we didn't have was what proportion of people using remotes were in those particular age groups . project manager: Forty no sorry for forty five to fifty five age group ,  to put myself right in the middle of it ,  u use remote controls to a great extent . marketing: industrial designer: project manager: Yes we marketing:  no this is for pay more for speech recognition . So , we're looking at  well again , we don't know the relative proportion the relative numbers in the age groups . project manager: If we wanted something different , truly different , then the buttonless remote control w would be it . industrial designer: P Well the only problem I can think of with that is if you've got a lot of people that don't wanna be bothered learning how to use new rem remote controls . If you just kind of take away everything that they're used to knowing , that's gonna be quite a change . project manager: But if you just lift it up and say , channel one or B_B_C_ industrial designer: It might marketing: Or even  you could even just have it left on . user interface: Maybe i marketing: You could just put it down once on top your T_V_ and never have to user interface: Yeah , have a big kind of like the satellite box or the cable box project manager: user interface: and have it just go on the T_V_ and then it doesn't matter where in the room you are , industrial designer:  . project manager: It c well it I can I can see technical problems with that in terms of the , you know , the sound from the television , industrial designer:  . project manager: because if somebody actually on the television says   , you know , I_T_V_ and you're watching B_B_C_ then then it might  change itself , marketing: B_B_C_ one . marketing: project manager: so it probably needs to be  possibly actually need a button on it user interface: Yeah , that's true . project manager: Or or something just to identify that you've lifted it up and it's use . And and then just say , oh I don't know , a thought and and then user interface: Yeah . project manager: marketing: Relevance of two out of ten , project manager: Vol volume , marketing: yeah . project manager: yes  industrial designer: They're not used often project manager: th industrial designer: but they are quite important when they're used . And  I would say ignoring ig ignoring power for the moment ,  the channel and volume industrial designer:  . project manager: and th w w given given that we've been told to ignore teletext . So if we can design something that that looks interesting , know , or looks different ,  incorporates the the logo and and the colours and  we can still have our interchangeable fascias even if it's the yellow and grey ,  and  I dunno , buttons or or buttons as an option . marketing:  you were saying about  it could technical problems of like  someone on the television saying a channel number and it changed project manager: marketing: 'Cause I've seen I've seen this used on computers before , where you just you address the remote , project manager: Depe  i depends whether  industrial designer:  . project manager: if we want to make this so simple that anybody can walk into the room and lift it up and say marketing: Oh I see . marketing:  I'm just thinking of the point of view of peop you could still like lose this remote . project manager:  and I I I s so I suppose one  could make it so desirable that if people lose it they immediately go out and buy another one . Do you want to just carry on with marketing: Oh no project manager: or marketing: I I interrupted you , project manager: no no , no  b I was in the middle of in the middle of your report there . We could make things much more f I think the the eighty percent of people would spend more on  a remote  that looks better , combined with  decrease the or take out the limited functio functions that we don't really use much . alright take out teletext , but as for channel settings and stuff it might it might  turn people somewhe peop some people that want the whole functionality away . But , since if we're marketing a more kind of fashionable approach then it'd it would be fashion and fashion over practicality . S s we could we could make it dual function voice recognition and still have buttons on it  marketing: Oh , we could , yeah . We c yeah , project manager: 'cause we're marketing: we could even have it as like a yeah the buttons control this and the voice functions control the f things that you would do all the time , so . marketing: So  yeah , if we could  power on and channel selection and and volume selection , wouldn't have to really project manager: The  the the advantage of doing away the buttons altogether is it makes the thing cheaper . project manager: No , it cou certainly opens up the possibility for making it  , you know , visually very distinctive . Okay , who sorry , have you have you finished there Andy ? marketing:  yeah , yeah , that's everything . marketing: Do you want the cable ? user interface: Yeah , let's see if I can make this work . user interface: So the method , I looked online for examples of other similar products and then just kind of was trying to brainstorm some possible design ideas and  identify what the necessary things are , what people are what you really wanna have a remote control do . There's a user centred one and an engineering centred one which I will have pictures of and then we kinda have to decide which one this should be . This one  this is the user centred , it has  quite a few    fewer buttons marketing: user interface: and then this is the engineering centred , which has a lot more buttons , project manager: user interface: and probably this is one that people complain about , about having too many buttons that you don't use . So basically , what a remote control is is you it's to send messages to the television set , you know , turn on , off , switch the channels and the volume and things such as that . And so for this product it's gonna be television only , and then it has to have the  logos for the company and the colours . And so , for my personal preferences , I think this one is easier to use and has quite a you know , fewer buttons .  we want something that sends messages easily to the television and I was kind of wondering about this example that they have . It looks kind of narrow at the top , and I was thinking maybe if it were wider at the top , project manager: yeah . E the unique style , maybe have it light up so it's visible in the dark ,  the changeable face-plates , and the lighting up and visible I was when we were talking about havi losing it , maybe to have a button on the television that you press and it maybe if it makes a noise or lights up or something like that , so it's easier to find if someone has hidden under the couch or something like that . project manager: Okay , can I  I'm actually gonna use the  it's gonna cause great technical problems over here . industrial designer: Oh yeah , they're all they're not connected to anything on the table , you just leave 'em on and walk around with 'em . project manager: Yes , rather than the  the the traditional in fact ,  I won't even go that far .  something like this shape , you know , sort of something that you can that's sort of a more vertical shape ,  that you you sort of hold in your hand , well I'm trying to think    l  l such as   something you hold up like that , possibly with a couple of buttons like that , but with the the entire top with the , you know , the  the infrared or whatever source . project manager:  so that you know , it's flying off in all directions , industrial designer:  . project manager: so that    again the n need to look at the the the technicalities of  actually achieving that in terms of whether the , you know , the power requirements of the  such a source ,  you know , compromise the our our need for  you know , it it being   permanently  you know , available . industrial designer: project manager:  whether whether different technology   th all all these remotes are presumably infrared , and like they have been for a long time .  we we possibly need to be looking at at at something different ,  you know , short range , not like the old  radio remote controls where you'd change next door's telly when you change yours .  industrial designer: user interface: project manager: but   I think basically i if we're going for i if minimum number of buttons is our priority , then we should , as I say , r know , really bite the bullets and and reduce the buttons to absolute minimum , you know , possibly with backup channel and volume buttons and on off .  so that it can al it could  almost end up like that , but again , except that  you know the risk of losing it .  anyway okay  so Kate , wh what are your  your thoughts on this ? industrial designer: Yes ,  . industrial designer: Which one does this plug into ? user interface:  I think it's all there . user interface: H industrial designer: I can't did you could you see it on you screen when it user interface: Oh yeah .  the basic function of the remote control is to send messages to another sh system , the the T_V_ or the D_V_D_ player or whatever . marketing: industrial designer:  and it does this  by well , you need to start off you need an energy source and this energy source will feed into an integrated circuit chip and the circuit chip is the part that actually composes the different messages  within the remote  which will then be sent to the  the television , the D_V_D_ to tell that what to do .  and you need a user interface , which controls the chip and thus the messages and  the user interface is that's basically just you kn the s sorta design of the actual remote which you hold in your hands and what buttons will be on it .  what we need  technically speaking for the remote control is some sort of energy source ,  some sort of user interface , which I think we've mostly been talking about the user interface and the design of that . industrial designer: which feeds into the circuit chip  which maybe then we could have that feed into a switch which would send signals f to  a subcomponent and on to a light bulb between so it'll light up once we start once you start pressing buttons .  also send signals to the  infrared bulb , which will be the part that actually what ? Sends signals to the the television . user interface: industrial designer: And so my personal preferences I I just think we need sorta big  energy source that won't die out ,  perhaps some sort of rechargeable battery or a battery dock you could place it in , so it'd constantly be charged , so you wouldn't have to  be worrying about it running out of batteries and not changing channels for you .  a wide range  sender-receiver , so that you can hit the buttons from basically anywhere in the room , and the channel'll still be changed .  also definitely a user-friendly interface  and I think we've all sort of mentioned adding a a locating device on it , so when it does get stuck under the couch cushions , as they inevitably do , you can find them easily . project manager:  I don't suppose we've got any statistics on the the life expectancy of  remote controls , particularly sort of independent ones .  given you know , the number of things you buy these days , which you know , have a a a lithium whatever battery in , that's  , you know never needs replacing . industrial designer: project manager:  perhaps we should have the the disposable remote control ,   you know , one some sort of typical usage . By which time  when all's said and done , the digital television will be taking over in that time scale . project manager:   p perhaps we should , know , reduce the  , you know , the sort of moving parts even more by not even having a battery compartment and  industrial designer: Just having one that's guaranteed to last five to ten years ? project manager: Yeah , and if if anybody manages to run it down , we'll we'll give 'em a new one . user interface: project manager:  it's , you know , it's what it saves in cost and you know there there's a well , it's actually a marketing gimmick .  so I th think you know the idea of a rechargeable one is   unless you're really high tech and it sort of just recharges itself if it's n by , you know , magnetic waves or whatever , if if it marketing: It could have like  know like a cordless phone in your house it s got like a base that sits there all the time . industrial designer:  yeah user interface: I would think that people might forget project manager: I I th I think user interface:  people forget to put their cordless phones back on there , marketing: industrial designer: project manager:   I know that somei times my my wife goes out in the morning and says oh I should have put the phone on to charge industrial designer:  . project manager: and then then she's had those for so long that if she hasn't worked that out by now . Yeah , when it turns itself off , that's when I plug it in , project manager: Yeah , yeah , yeah , so   industrial designer: yeah . user interface: project manager: what so wh what what do we think about the  the the permanent  battery ? industrial designer: Yeah , think that's a good idea . project manager: Is the  you know , we we we are really going for the ultimate in ex  external simplicity here . project manager:  you know , cut cost within the manufacturing and  you know , if we have a high tech interior , then then that that sh may well be cost effective .  I can't think of anything off the s top of my head , industrial designer: They usually have the little light  source , project manager: but there are certainly things that you buy . industrial designer: I dunno what the heck they're called , user interface: Yeah , they have that little solar industrial designer: the but project manager: Som well some do , industrial designer: yeah , the little cells that project manager:  th th but there are battery ones industrial designer: Yeah . industrial designer: Most of them , don't they have sort of a combination of the two , like when there is light , they'll work off the light , project manager: Yeah , industrial designer: and if there isn't , they'll kick into this battery , project manager:   industrial designer: so we can maybe do something like that whereas there is a battery , but if there's enough light , then it's using the light , so that it's not actually draining the battery all the time , but you will have the battery there for when you need it . project manager: I would think is i is is probably , you know , no more than minutes in its entire life . industrial designer: Oh , it depend if it's  depends who who's using it , who's just sitting there clicking clicking clicking clicking , user interface: Yeah , some people are project manager: If , but I say if if people are getting R_S_I_ from it then  then  then then perhaps we're looking at the wrong market industrial designer: yeah . marketing: W project manager: n marketing: like like this  this  market research thing says number of times per hour that it's used , channel selection a hundred and sixty eight user interface: Per hour ? project manager: Right . project manager: Oh , I must admit I hadn't  I'd I'd missed that . user interface: marketing: But then again , if you think it of the amount of , you know amount of use it's like project manager: Yeah . project manager: Well that's right , and and I I don't I don't even know whether the I don't even know whether the s the signal lasts as long as you actually keep the button pressed , industrial designer:  . project manager: sorta tenth of a second , no matter how long you press it for , I don't know I don't actually know . user interface: Though I think with digital T_V_ , like I know on my cable box , you're not supposed to do that because the channel can't keep up with it if you just press it like that , project manager: Yeah . user interface: so you're supposed to use the menu and go through the different project manager: industrial designer: project manager: Right , so I've got a message to say five minutes , I dunno how long ago that appeared . Possibly no buttons at all  , but if you can incorporate  channel change and volume buttons  in into the design , then then that's fine .  in the  the the role of the of the  the user interface des designer becomes b you know more important here , because , you know , shape is no longer an a   a serious constraint .  I don't see why we shouldn't go for voice recognition  and the the only buttons that I think we need are channel control , volume control and on off .  it needs to incorporate the corporate logo ,  the the grey and yellow colour scheme and there's no reason why we can't introduce  interchangeable  covers . So are we doing just the television or are we doing so not D_V_D_ players , project manager: No . project manager: I think that's quite clear from the the information that we've been given , industrial designer:  . marketing: Didn't you mention the teletext , just television only ? project manager: Oh yeah well th that's one I s that's one I sent you , industrial designer:  . industrial designer: project manager: Okay , so  we can all give some thought to that  for for the next meeting , thank you very much indeed <doc-sep>industrial designer: So yeah , I've The only the only remote controls I've used usually come with the television , and they're fairly basic . industrial designer: So  project manager: Yeah , I was thinking that as well , I think the the only ones that I've seen that you buy are the sort of one for all type things where they're , user interface: Yeah the universal ones . project manager:  'cause  , what  twenty five Euros , that's about I dunno , fifteen Pounds or so ? And that's quite a lot for a remote control . As you said they come with the T_V_ so it's normally just your basic grey black remote control functions , project manager: -huh .  , and as you say , we need to have some kind of gimmick , so  I thought maybe something like if you lose it and you can whistle , project manager: Okay . marketing: being as a Marketing Exper Expert I will like to say like before deciding the cost of this remote control or any other things we must see the market potential for this product like what is the competition in the market ? What are the available prices of the other remote controls in the prices ? project manager: Okay . marketing: What speciality other remote controls are having and how complicated it is to use these remote controls as compared to other remote controls available in the market . So before deciding or before finalising this project , we must discuss all these things , like user interface: Okay . marketing: and apart from this , it should be having a good look also , because people really li  like to play with it when they are watching movies or playing with or playing with their C_D_ player , M_P_ three player like any electronic devices . marketing: They really want to have something good , having a good design in their hands , project manager: user interface: industrial designer: what do we think a project manager: So , we're looking for 'Kay . industrial designer: What do we think a good size would be for this ? project manager: We're marketing: industrial designer: 'Cause I I know as you add more buttons to the remote it sometimes gets so big and clunky project manager: Sorry , carry on . user interface: industrial designer: and there's just like a hundred buttons on it , project manager: user interface: Kind of  , maybe more like a P_D_A_ kind of , just hand held , like , project manager: For for  user interface: 'cause project manager: remember we're trying to make it for twelve Euros fifty . No , I wasn't , no sorry I wasn't thinking of the screen of like a P_D_A_ project manager: Okay well right we'll have to  I'll user interface: but project manager: we're k having another meeting in half an hour so  user interface: Okay . project manager: we should all look into a bit  , oh actually , no , we'll allocate . project manager: if you could maybe come up with sort of shapes and suggested shades or whatever , and you could look into  basically how how it's made I_E_ like how you make it all in one , how what sort of materials are available to you whatever . project manager: Which will probably just usurp what I said so user interface: So you want me to look at shapes and everything you said ? project manager: Shapes and colours and  basically how to make it attractive . marketing: project manager: So industrial designer: project manager: we have  industrial designer: Wait for emails ? marketing:  
Age group data for remote control use was not available, but it is acknowledged that many people may not want to learn how to use a new remote control. Despite this, certain buttons such as channel control, volume settings, and on/off are still necessary. The Industrial Designer raised concerns about the size and bulkiness of remote controls with too many buttons, while a small and slim design was deemed prone to being lost. The User Interface suggested a PDA or hand-held type of remote control, but this was deemed unfriendly in terms of unit price. Marketing expressed concerns about the cost and price implications of implementing voice recognition, arguing that the elderly would not find it user-friendly compared to an LCD screen. The Project Manager agreed with Marketing's opinion and prioritized the LCD screen over voice recognition. The Project Manager also noted the difficulty of implementing speech recognition in remotes due to noise interference, which was expensive to solve. However, the User Interface proposed a solution involving a signal-emitting device built into the TV and a microphone and transmitter on the remote control, utilizing subtractive cancellation of noise.
Why did the team have doubts about relying solely on speech recognition and eliminating buttons for the remote control? What challenges did they face in implementing speech recognition in the new remote controls?