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For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Oh my, what does John Stewart do now.... Thread starter Dzapper Start date Aug 2, 2022 1 2 Next 1 of 2 Go to page Go Next Last D Dzapper Well-Known Member May 5, 2019 3,177 4,959 1 Aug 2, 2022 #1 Typical of a Hollywood has-been trying to look relevant after his days as a celeb are well over, Stewart (a Leftist liar) came out strong against the Republicans for killing a veterans' health care bill on a procedural vote. Stewart (the new self-proclaimed champion of vets everywhere) alleged the mean old Republicans hate vets and were just trying to harm the Big Guy by opposing passage of the bill. He noted that Ted Cruz and other rep Senators were fist bumping and smiling after they accomplished their evil act. He made the rounds to all the Leftist Sunday talk shows and (in his best celeb turned activist mode) screamed and cursed and he really REALLY put a serious, disgusted look on his unshaven face .... so he must have really REALLY had the Reps by the short curly ones this time, right? Well, no. In fact, it turns out the Republicans were all for the bill until the Dem/Soc leadership in the Senate tried to insert a provision into bill (buried in an obscure provision) that would make $400 Billion in UNRELATED spending permanent instead of discretionary. Oops. Senator Toomey (and Cruz) and the Congressional bi-partisan watchdogs who oversee such bills all told the world what was going on, but Stewart insisted that the House version and the Senate version were identical and that those evil Republican rascals were LYING. They really REALLY hate the nations' veterans. Since then, it has been verified that the Dem/Soc did insert the provision, thinking that if it went unnoticed they would get another big win the only way they know how to.... by deception and lies. If it was discovered and the Reps voted against it, well, they had the John Stewarts of this world (and the board Leftist bobbleheads) to whip up anger against the Republicans, knowing their supporters were either too dumb or too loyal to look into it and acknowledge what had actually happened. So, now, here is how things stand: 1. The Dem/Soc have been caught using needed veteran health services as a ploy in their covert attempt to spend yet more money in an inflationary economy. They now look like the Dem/Soc party who hates veterans and just used them for their own purposes just to make the Reps look bad. That should get them a lot of veteran votes in November. 2. Sen. Toomey reiterated that the Reps would overwhelmingly support the bill as originally written and without the Dem/Soc sneaky provision included in it. He's filed an amendment to that effect. 3. Major veteran organizations have come out and called Stewart and the Dem/Socs out for their attempted deception and agreed with the Reps that the health provisions should pass and the unrelated spending provisions must go. They also said to Stewart, "You aren't a vet. You don't speak for vets." STFU and go away. No one asked you to "help" us at all. Was Stewart too dumb to figure this out? Or was he totally aware of what was going on and, in the tradition of so many Hollywood and sports celebs, just thought he could convince people if he really REALLY came out strong with his lies? I suggest he shave and go back to every show he spread his lies on and recant his story and apologize for being a dumbass (or a liar). I'm sure he'll take the high road.....it's the Leftist way, isn't it? Last edited: Aug 2, 2022 Reactions: WeR0206, ChiTownLion, TN Lion and 15 others I interrobang Well-Known Member Aug 21, 2016 21,996 31,841 1 Aug 2, 2022 #2 Stewart already admitted he knew about the 400 million Reactions: WeR0206, The Spin Meister, Ski and 2 others D Dzapper Well-Known Member May 5, 2019 3,177 4,959 1 Aug 2, 2022 #3 interrobang said: Stewart already admitted he knew about the 400 million Click to expand... 400 billion Last edited: Aug 2, 2022 Reactions: WeR0206, dailybuck777 and bourbon n blues KnightWhoSaysNit Well-Known Member Jul 19, 2010 8,642 8,686 1 Aug 2, 2022 #4 Dzapper said: Typical of a Hollywood has-been trying to look relevant after his days as a celeb are well over, Stewart (a Leftist liar) came out strong against the Republicans for killing a veterans' health bill on a procedural vote. Stewart (the new self-proclaimed champion of vets everywhere) alleged the mean old Republican hate vets and were just trying to harm the Big Guy by opposing passage of the bill. He noted that Ted Cruz and other rep Senators were fist bumping and smiling after they accomplished their evil act. He made the rounds to all the Leftist Sunday talk shows and (in his best celeb turned activist mode) screamed and cursed and he really REALLY put a serious, disgusted look on his unshaven face .... so he must have really REALLY had the Reps by the short curly ones this time, right? Well, no. In fact, it turns out the Republicans were all for the bill until the Dem/Soc leadership in the Senate tried to insert a provision into bill (buried in an obscure provision) that would make $400 Billion in UNRELATED spending permanent instead of discretionary. Oops. Senator Toomey (and Cruz) and the Congressional bi-partisan watchdogs who oversee such bills all told the world what was going on, but Stewart insisted that the House version and the Senate version were identical and that those evil Republican rascals were LYING. They really REALLY hate the nations' veterans. Since then, it has been verified that the Dem/Soc did insert the provision, thinking that if it went unnoticed they would get another big win the only way they know how to.... by deception and lies. If it was discovered and the Reps voted against it, well, they had the John Stewarts of this world (and the board Leftist bobbleheads) to whip up anger against the Republicans, knowing their supporters were either too dumb or too loyal to look into it and acknowledge what had actually happened. So, now, here is how things stand: 1. The Dem/Soc have been caught using needed veteran health services as a ploy in their covert attempt to spend yet more money in an inflationary economy. They now look like the Dem/Soc party who hates veterans and just used them for their own purposes just to make the Reps look bad. That should get them a lot of veteran votes in November. 2. Sen. Toomey reiterated that the Reps would overwhelmingly support the bill as originally written and without the Dem/Soc sneaky provision included in it. He's filed an amendment to that effect. 3. Major veteran organizations have come out and called Stewart and the Dem/Socs out for their attempted deception and agreed with the Reps that the health provisions should pass and the unrelated spending provisions must go. They also said to Stewart, "You aren't a vet. You don't speak for vets." STFU and go away. No one asked you to "help" us at all. Was Stewart too dumb to figure this out? Or was he totally aware of what was going on and, in the tradition of so many Hollywood and sports celebs, just thought he could convince people if he really REALLY came out strong with his lies? I suggest he shave and go back to every show he spread his lies on and recant his story and apologize for being a dumbass (or a liar). I'm sure he'll take the high road.....it's the Leftist way, isn't it? Click to expand... This is what the Dems do all the time. They throw in something extremely partisan and wasteful into a bill that they know would otherwise be not only popular, but necessary. It's called "pork." Now they are naming bills inappropriately so that people will get behind passage. The deception is criminal. I wish they could be exposed for what they are among Democratic voters. But the MSM is so entrenched with the Dems that the average voter doesn't get turned. I see this in my own family. They'll see people in need or impoverished and think the government should be doing more to fix it. They think the Democratic Party is the pathway to a solution. They don't see business growth as a solution. Though highly "educated," they understand nothing about our economic system, why it works, and why socialist policies do not work. Reactions: WeR0206, Sullivan, The Spin Meister and 7 others psuted Well-Known Member Gold Member Nov 26, 2010 27,638 23,097 1 Aug 2, 2022 #5 It’s always a poison pill with these clowns and theatrics Reactions: WeR0206, The Spin Meister, bison13 and 4 others M m.knox Well-Known Member Gold Member Aug 20, 2003 106,209 59,998 1 Aug 2, 2022 #6 KnightWhoSaysNit said: They think the Democratic Party is the pathway to a solution. They don't see business growth as a solution. Though highly "educated," they understand nothing about our economic system, why it works, and why socialist policies do not work. Click to expand... Sad how brainwashed people can be. The democratic party is part of the problem. Soft on crime. Soft on education. Soft on family. Soft on religion. Soft on accountability. Strong on people depending on handouts. Reactions: jjw165, Sullivan, The Spin Meister and 5 others Lesgo_Brandon Well-Known Member Nov 11, 2021 453 858 1 St Louis Aug 2, 2022 #7 I think his heart is in the right place. He's supported numerous veterans causes and is standing in the front of this one. He's just wrong here. Reactions: Hotshoe R rumble_lion Well-Known Member Aug 7, 2011 22,596 5,457 1 Aug 2, 2022 #8 Dzapper said: Typical of a Hollywood has-been trying to look relevant after his days as a celeb are well over, Stewart (a Leftist liar) came out strong against the Republicans for killing a veterans' health care bill on a procedural vote. Stewart (the new self-proclaimed champion of vets everywhere) alleged the mean old Republicans hate vets and were just trying to harm the Big Guy by opposing passage of the bill. He noted that Ted Cruz and other rep Senators were fist bumping and smiling after they accomplished their evil act. He made the rounds to all the Leftist Sunday talk shows and (in his best celeb turned activist mode) screamed and cursed and he really REALLY put a serious, disgusted look on his unshaven face .... so he must have really REALLY had the Reps by the short curly ones this time, right? Well, no. In fact, it turns out the Republicans were all for the bill until the Dem/Soc leadership in the Senate tried to insert a provision into bill (buried in an obscure provision) that would make $400 Billion in UNRELATED spending permanent instead of discretionary. Oops. Senator Toomey (and Cruz) and the Congressional bi-partisan watchdogs who oversee such bills all told the world what was going on, but Stewart insisted that the House version and the Senate version were identical and that those evil Republican rascals were LYING. They really REALLY hate the nations' veterans. Since then, it has been verified that the Dem/Soc did insert the provision, thinking that if it went unnoticed they would get another big win the only way they know how to.... by deception and lies. If it was discovered and the Reps voted against it, well, they had the John Stewarts of this world (and the board Leftist bobbleheads) to whip up anger against the Republicans, knowing their supporters were either too dumb or too loyal to look into it and acknowledge what had actually happened. So, now, here is how things stand: 1. The Dem/Soc have been caught using needed veteran health services as a ploy in their covert attempt to spend yet more money in an inflationary economy. They now look like the Dem/Soc party who hates veterans and just used them for their own purposes just to make the Reps look bad. That should get them a lot of veteran votes in November. 2. Sen. Toomey reiterated that the Reps would overwhelmingly support the bill as originally written and without the Dem/Soc sneaky provision included in it. He's filed an amendment to that effect. 3. Major veteran organizations have come out and called Stewart and the Dem/Socs out for their attempted deception and agreed with the Reps that the health provisions should pass and the unrelated spending provisions must go. They also said to Stewart, "You aren't a vet. You don't speak for vets." STFU and go away. No one asked you to "help" us at all. Was Stewart too dumb to figure this out? Or was he totally aware of what was going on and, in the tradition of so many Hollywood and sports celebs, just thought he could convince people if he really REALLY came out strong with his lies? I suggest he shave and go back to every show he spread his lies on and recant his story and apologize for being a dumbass (or a liar). I'm sure he'll take the high road.....it's the Leftist way, isn't it? Click to expand... Stewart been supporting this kind of things for years. While Stewart built his reputation as a liberal firebrand throughout the 2000s on his famed Comedy Central show, he has devoted an enormous amount of his career to advocating for healthcare for veterans and first responders. He’s a regular feature on Capitol Hill, excoriating politicians who drag their feet on providing funding for injuries men and women sustained while serving their country.​ ​ He is widely credited with helping break a 2009 Congressional deadlock on providing healthcare for 9/11 first responders, and he has continued to push for the government to take better care of the men and women of New York Police Department, Fire Department and more who ran into Ground Zero. In 2019, he laid into lawmakers’ “rank hypocrisy” and “shameful” actions that had cost 9/11 first responders “their most valuable commodity: time.”​ ​ Reactions: NJPSU gjbankos Well-Known Member Jan 16, 2006 58,933 37,110 1 Aug 2, 2022 #9 Lesgo_Brandon said: I think his heart is in the right place. He's supported numerous veterans causes and is standing in the front of this one. He's just wrong here. Click to expand... And he is wrong because his heart is full of hate and it is clouding his mind. Reactions: WeR0206, IIVI and psuted D Dzapper Well-Known Member May 5, 2019 3,177 4,959 1 Aug 2, 2022 #10 rumble_lion said: Stewart been supporting this kind of things for years. While Stewart built his reputation as a liberal firebrand throughout the 2000s on his famed Comedy Central show, he has devoted an enormous amount of his career to advocating for healthcare for veterans and first responders. He’s a regular feature on Capitol Hill, excoriating politicians who drag their feet on providing funding for injuries men and women sustained while serving their country.​ ​ He is widely credited with helping break a 2009 Congressional deadlock on providing healthcare for 9/11 first responders, and he has continued to push for the government to take better care of the men and women of New York Police Department, Fire Department and more who ran into Ground Zero. In 2019, he laid into lawmakers’ “rank hypocrisy” and “shameful” actions that had cost 9/11 first responders “their most valuable commodity: time.”​ ​ View embedded media Click to expand... Democrats Accuse Republicans of Heartlessness over Vet Bill, but Are Dems the Ones Exploiting Vets? | National Review Democrats loaded the PACT Act with pork, then blamed Republicans for voting it down, while the media follows along. www.nationalreview.com Comedian Jon Stewart reacted to Republicans blocking the bill saying, “What Ted Cruz is describing is inaccurate, not true, bulls***.” Stewart continued, “It’s nonsense. There’s nothing in the bill that’s not related to veteran spending . . . There was no budgetary trick and it was always mandatory [spending] . . . There was no reason for them to switch the votes.” Stewart, of course, is wrong. Cruz debunked Stewart’s claims, telling him, “you’re wrong here”: The bill gives a $400B blank check—separate from vets care—for unrelated pork that will supercharge inflation. I support the PACT Act & the $679.4B it would dedicate to vets. It’s ppl trying to use PACT to shovel more pork who are exploiting vets. Click to expand... Cruz further pointed out that the Republicans made clear to the Democrats that if they passed Senator Pat Toomey’s (R., Penn.) amendment making the spending discretionary, the Republicans would have overwhelmingly voted for the bill. Cruz said that the Democrats “want to cram $400 billion in unrelated spending onto this bill that has nothing to do with veterans.” Code of Vets, a veterans’ nonprofit organization, responded to Stewart as well, countering his claims: Cruz and Code of Vets are right on point. The Democrats did change the spending from discretionary to mandatory in the PACT Act. Stewart is either ignorant or lying about that fact. The last thing America needs right now is another $400 billion in wasteful spending that will only drive up inflation. That Democrats and their media allies are gaslighting the public by smearing Republicans as cold-hearted and anti-veteran is a disgrace. One simple question. Why would the Republicans arbitrarily reject this bill for no cause other than they "hate" vets. I can name more Republican Senators who are vets than their are Dem/Soc Senators who are vets. Republicans have consistently supported vet benefits. They discovered this gimmick and offered immediately to pass an amended bill that only eliminated the gimmick, none of the benefits. But the MSM, TooLyin and John Stewart would have us believe a fantasy about hatred of vets instead of the obvious truth of what happened here. Oh,well, Dem/Soc have never been known for their honesty and have had lots of success BSing the American public on such matters. So, we shouldn't be surprised the slimy bastards tried it again here. Reactions: WeR0206, jjw165, roswelllion and 3 others Yanks49 Well-Known Member Oct 31, 2001 378 221 1 Aug 2, 2022 #11 Dzapper said: Typical of a Hollywood has-been trying to look relevant after his days as a celeb are well over, Stewart (a Leftist liar) came out strong against the Republicans for killing a veterans' health care bill on a procedural vote. Stewart (the new self-proclaimed champion of vets everywhere) alleged the mean old Republicans hate vets and were just trying to harm the Big Guy by opposing passage of the bill. He noted that Ted Cruz and other rep Senators were fist bumping and smiling after they accomplished their evil act. He made the rounds to all the Leftist Sunday talk shows and (in his best celeb turned activist mode) screamed and cursed and he really REALLY put a serious, disgusted look on his unshaven face .... so he must have really REALLY had the Reps by the short curly ones this time, right? Well, no. In fact, it turns out the Republicans were all for the bill until the Dem/Soc leadership in the Senate tried to insert a provision into bill (buried in an obscure provision) that would make $400 Billion in UNRELATED spending permanent instead of discretionary. Oops. Senator Toomey (and Cruz) and the Congressional bi-partisan watchdogs who oversee such bills all told the world what was going on, but Stewart insisted that the House version and the Senate version were identical and that those evil Republican rascals were LYING. They really REALLY hate the nations' veterans. Since then, it has been verified that the Dem/Soc did insert the provision, thinking that if it went unnoticed they would get another big win the only way they know how to.... by deception and lies. If it was discovered and the Reps voted against it, well, they had the John Stewarts of this world (and the board Leftist bobbleheads) to whip up anger against the Republicans, knowing their supporters were either too dumb or too loyal to look into it and acknowledge what had actually happened. So, now, here is how things stand: 1. The Dem/Soc have been caught using needed veteran health services as a ploy in their covert attempt to spend yet more money in an inflationary economy. They now look like the Dem/Soc party who hates veterans and just used them for their own purposes just to make the Reps look bad. That should get them a lot of veteran votes in November. 2. Sen. Toomey reiterated that the Reps would overwhelmingly support the bill as originally written and without the Dem/Soc sneaky provision included in it. He's filed an amendment to that effect. 3. Major veteran organizations have come out and called Stewart and the Dem/Socs out for their attempted deception and agreed with the Reps that the health provisions should pass and the unrelated spending provisions must go. They also said to Stewart, "You aren't a vet. You don't speak for vets." STFU and go away. No one asked you to "help" us at all. Was Stewart too dumb to figure this out? Or was he totally aware of what was going on and, in the tradition of so many Hollywood and sports celebs, just thought he could convince people if he really REALLY came out strong with his lies? I suggest he shave and go back to every show he spread his lies on and recant his story and apologize for being a dumbass (or a liar). I'm sure he'll take the high road.....it's the Leftist way, isn't it? Click to expand... psuted said: It’s always a poison pill with these clowns and theatrics Click to expand... Is there a reason why Toomey cannot initiate a bill that only covers the veterans concerns? Kill two birds with one stone, pass needed legislation and amplify how stupid most of the add-on crap is. Reactions: Sullivan and psuted psuted Well-Known Member Gold Member Nov 26, 2010 27,638 23,097 1 Aug 2, 2022 #12 I’m not sure he can. The Spin Meister Well-Known Member Nov 27, 2012 24,233 27,889 1 An altered state Aug 2, 2022 #13 Yanks49 said: Is there a reason why Toomey cannot initiate a bill that only covers the veterans concerns? Kill two birds with one stone, pass needed legislation and amplify how stupid most of the add-on crap is. Click to expand... He would have to start the entire process all over. It would be introduced in a committee, discussed and voted on by committee, and then to the Senate. It was already passed in the House and it have go through the House again. Far far better to expose the rat 🤡 for their evil duplicity then get the bill passed quickly. Reactions: WeR0206, junior1 and bourbon n blues P Petch Well-Known Member Mar 28, 2012 3,499 5,519 1 Aug 2, 2022 #14 rumble_lion said: Stewart been supporting this kind of things for years. While Stewart built his reputation as a liberal firebrand throughout the 2000s on his famed Comedy Central show, he has devoted an enormous amount of his career to advocating for healthcare for veterans and first responders. He’s a regular feature on Capitol Hill, excoriating politicians who drag their feet on providing funding for injuries men and women sustained while serving their country.​ ​ He is widely credited with helping break a 2009 Congressional deadlock on providing healthcare for 9/11 first responders, and he has continued to push for the government to take better care of the men and women of New York Police Department, Fire Department and more who ran into Ground Zero. In 2019, he laid into lawmakers’ “rank hypocrisy” and “shameful” actions that had cost 9/11 first responders “their most valuable commodity: time.”​ ​ View embedded media Click to expand... Yeah…it’s pretty sad he got bamboozled by the sneaky, lying Democrats. Your party is truly despicable. No offense. Reactions: TN Lion, Hotshoe and bourbon n blues M maypole Well-Known Member May 9, 2022 1,433 600 1 Aug 2, 2022 #15 <https://www.vox.com/2022/7/30/23284976/senate-republicans-pact-act-veterans> They apparently voted for the very same bill earlier. P Petch Well-Known Member Mar 28, 2012 3,499 5,519 1 Aug 2, 2022 #16 maypole said: <https://www.vox.com/2022/7/30/23284976/senate-republicans-pact-act-veterans> Click to expand... So bottom line…Dems got caught with their hand in the cookie jar again and now have to walk back the other BS. I’m sure they will try to sneak another pork sandwich in before all is said and done though. Reactions: bourbon n blues and Hotshoe M maypole Well-Known Member May 9, 2022 1,433 600 1 Aug 2, 2022 #17 Petch said: So bottom line…Dems got caught with their hand in the cookie jar again and now have to walk back the other BS. I’m sure they will try to sneak another pork sandwich in before all is said and done though. Click to expand... Not quite. It was a separate bill that got the Nazis panties in a bunch. “Republicans are mad that Democrats are on the verge of passing climate change legislation and have decided to take out their anger on vulnerable veterans,” Murphy argued. “News emerged that there is an agreement that makes it likely that a climate change bill is going to proceed on the Senate floor, and magically 30 votes flip.” Reactions: rumble_lion Hotshoe Well-Known Member Gold Member Feb 15, 2012 26,336 42,643 1 Aug 2, 2022 #18 Nazis. What an idiot. Reactions: bourbon n blues SLUPSU Well-Known Member Aug 5, 2018 4,548 2,622 1 Aug 2, 2022 #19 So much for all the manufactured outrage, the republicans changed their votes with no changes to the bill. Copy and paste... behind WAPO pay wall Republicans reverse course as Senate passes burn pits legislation after days of pressure​ The Senate overwhelmingly gave the final sign-off Tuesday on legislation designed to aid veterans fighting diseases they believe are linked to toxic exposure, particularly those who served in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. On a 86-11 roll call, the vote served as a political surrender by Senate Republicans, a week after they blocked consideration of the popular legislation seemingly out of political pique because Democrats clinched a party-line deal on an unrelated massive domestic policy bill that could be considered later this week. Republicans tried for several days to contend that last Wednesday’s blockage of the PACT Act had to do with a technical argument about which portion of the federal budget would fund $280 billion worth of new allocation for veterans health programs. But 25 Republicans who had recently supported the exact same bill switched their votes last Wednesday, less than an hour after Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) announced their deal on the ambitious legislation unrelated to the PACT Act. Republicans absorbed a series of political blows, led by comedian Jon Stewart and several prominent veterans groups, that, by lunchtime Tuesday, left many ready to settle the matter and vote to send the legislation quickly to President Biden’s desk. “He just beat the daylights out of them,” Schumer said Wednesday in a celebratory visit to a couple dozen veterans who have set up a vigil on the Capitol’s north lawn since last week’s failed vote. Democratic leaders allowed Stewart and dozens of veterans, their families and other supporters into the chamber’s public gallery for the final series of votes — something that has happened less than a handful of times since the onset of the global pandemic in March 2020 prompted officials to not allow the general public into the House and Senate galleries. In the end, 37 Republicans joined 49 members of the Democratic caucus to vote for the legislation, which compels the Department of Veterans Affairs to presume that certain illnesses came from exposure to hazardous waste incineration, mostly focused on the issue of burn pits from recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. That would remove the burden of proof from the injured veterans. Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) missed the vote because of a recent hip-replacement surgery. In the final moments of debate, the activists grew emotional. Stewart, who took up the cause following a similar effort he helped lead for first responders who suffer lingering effects from the 9/11 site, put his head in his right hand and started to cry as the roll call began. The crowd lit up with brief cheers when the gavel fell, getting quickly admonished by officials for breaking decorum that requires silence. Asked to explain the GOP reversal, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) offered no broad explanation and acknowledged the legislation would pass with broad support. “These things happen all the time with the legislative process,” McConnell told reporters at his weekly news conference, conceding defeat. “I think in the end the veterans service organizations are going to be pleased with the final result.” Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.), chairman of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee, credited the veterans groups and Stewart with taking what was previously a relatively obscure health issue and turning it into a national cause. “That’s who really did it, that’s who elevated it,” Tester said as he joined Schumer at the impromptu celebration outside the Capitol. Biden also gave the issue prominence in his March State of the Union address, followed by a trip to a Texas community the next week to drive home its importance. “We’re following the science in every case, but we’re also not going to force veterans to suffer in limbo for decades,” Biden said during the March visit to Texas. In his remarks, the president has noted that his son Beau served in and around Baghdad as a judge advocate general in the Delaware Army National Guard, on bases where waste was burned in an open-air site. The state’s attorney general, Beau Biden died in 2015 from brain cancer, although no diagnosis ever connected the cancer to his service in Iraq or other overseas postings. “While we can never fully repay the enormous debt we owe to those who have worn the uniform, today, the United States Congress took important action to meet this sacred obligation,” the president said in a statement after Tuesday’s vote. “Congress has delivered a decisive and bipartisan win for America’s veterans.” In a sign of his own devotion to the issue, the president planned to surprise the veterans holding vigil outside the Capitol over the weekend with a pizza delivery, but he tested positive for a rebound coronavirus case and resumed his quarantine. Instead, Veterans Affairs Secretary Denis McDonough arrived with the pizza. Experts are often uncertain of a direct link between specific cancers or diseases and the burn pits in Afghanistan and Iraq, where the military often burned large amounts of waste — including plastics, batteries or vehicle parts — that released plumes of dangerous chemicals into the air. Veterans then have to prove there is a direct connection between their cancer and the burn pit chemicals, a threshold that can at times be difficult to meet, particularly if the condition doesn’t develop until years after a deployment. Studies have shown that Veterans Affairs rejects the vast majority of claims. “You could talk to any one of these people and they would say we would rather not be here,” Tester said. Schumer took a similar approach, happy the legislation finally passed. “All’s well that ends well.” psuted Well-Known Member Gold Member Nov 26, 2010 27,638 23,097 1 Aug 2, 2022 #20 SLUPSU said: So much for all the manufactured outrage, the republicans changed their votes with no changes to the bill. Copy and paste... behind WAPO pay wall Republicans reverse course as Senate passes burn pits legislation after days of pressure​ The Senate overwhelmingly gave the final sign-off Tuesday on legislation designed to aid veterans fighting diseases they believe are linked to toxic exposure, particularly those who served in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. On a 86-11 roll call, the vote served as a political surrender by Senate Republicans, a week after they blocked consideration of the popular legislation seemingly out of political pique because Democrats clinched a party-line deal on an unrelated massive domestic policy bill that could be considered later this week. Republicans tried for several days to contend that last Wednesday’s blockage of the PACT Act had to do with a technical argument about which portion of the federal budget would fund $280 billion worth of new allocation for veterans health programs. But 25 Republicans who had recently supported the exact same bill switched their votes last Wednesday, less than an hour after Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) announced their deal on the ambitious legislation unrelated to the PACT Act. Republicans absorbed a series of political blows, led by comedian Jon Stewart and several prominent veterans groups, that, by lunchtime Tuesday, left many ready to settle the matter and vote to send the legislation quickly to President Biden’s desk. “He just beat the daylights out of them,” Schumer said Wednesday in a celebratory visit to a couple dozen veterans who have set up a vigil on the Capitol’s north lawn since last week’s failed vote. Democratic leaders allowed Stewart and dozens of veterans, their families and other supporters into the chamber’s public gallery for the final series of votes — something that has happened less than a handful of times since the onset of the global pandemic in March 2020 prompted officials to not allow the general public into the House and Senate galleries. In the end, 37 Republicans joined 49 members of the Democratic caucus to vote for the legislation, which compels the Department of Veterans Affairs to presume that certain illnesses came from exposure to hazardous waste incineration, mostly focused on the issue of burn pits from recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. That would remove the burden of proof from the injured veterans. Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) missed the vote because of a recent hip-replacement surgery. In the final moments of debate, the activists grew emotional. Stewart, who took up the cause following a similar effort he helped lead for first responders who suffer lingering effects from the 9/11 site, put his head in his right hand and started to cry as the roll call began. The crowd lit up with brief cheers when the gavel fell, getting quickly admonished by officials for breaking decorum that requires silence. Asked to explain the GOP reversal, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) offered no broad explanation and acknowledged the legislation would pass with broad support. “These things happen all the time with the legislative process,” McConnell told reporters at his weekly news conference, conceding defeat. “I think in the end the veterans service organizations are going to be pleased with the final result.” Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.), chairman of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee, credited the veterans groups and Stewart with taking what was previously a relatively obscure health issue and turning it into a national cause. “That’s who really did it, that’s who elevated it,” Tester said as he joined Schumer at the impromptu celebration outside the Capitol. Biden also gave the issue prominence in his March State of the Union address, followed by a trip to a Texas community the next week to drive home its importance. “We’re following the science in every case, but we’re also not going to force veterans to suffer in limbo for decades,” Biden said during the March visit to Texas. In his remarks, the president has noted that his son Beau served in and around Baghdad as a judge advocate general in the Delaware Army National Guard, on bases where waste was burned in an open-air site. The state’s attorney general, Beau Biden died in 2015 from brain cancer, although no diagnosis ever connected the cancer to his service in Iraq or other overseas postings. “While we can never fully repay the enormous debt we owe to those who have worn the uniform, today, the United States Congress took important action to meet this sacred obligation,” the president said in a statement after Tuesday’s vote. “Congress has delivered a decisive and bipartisan win for America’s veterans.” In a sign of his own devotion to the issue, the president planned to surprise the veterans holding vigil outside the Capitol over the weekend with a pizza delivery, but he tested positive for a rebound coronavirus case and resumed his quarantine. Instead, Veterans Affairs Secretary Denis McDonough arrived with the pizza. Experts are often uncertain of a direct link between specific cancers or diseases and the burn pits in Afghanistan and Iraq, where the military often burned large amounts of waste — including plastics, batteries or vehicle parts — that released plumes of dangerous chemicals into the air. Veterans then have to prove there is a direct connection between their cancer and the burn pit chemicals, a threshold that can at times be difficult to meet, particularly if the condition doesn’t develop until years after a deployment. Studies have shown that Veterans Affairs rejects the vast majority of claims. “You could talk to any one of these people and they would say we would rather not be here,” Tester said. Schumer took a similar approach, happy the legislation finally passed. “All’s well that ends well.” Click to expand... Democrats suck, is that what you’re trying to say? Reactions: bourbon n blues The Spin Meister Well-Known Member Nov 27, 2012 24,233 27,889 1 An altered state Aug 2, 2022 #21 SLUPSU said: So much for all the manufactured outrage, the republicans changed their votes with no changes to the bill. Copy and paste... behind WAPO pay wall Republicans reverse course as Senate passes burn pits legislation after days of pressure​ The Senate overwhelmingly gave the final sign-off Tuesday on legislation designed to aid veterans fighting diseases they believe are linked to toxic exposure, particularly those who served in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. On a 86-11 roll call, the vote served as a political surrender by Senate Republicans, a week after they blocked consideration of the popular legislation seemingly out of political pique because Democrats clinched a party-line deal on an unrelated massive domestic policy bill that could be considered later this week. Republicans tried for several days to contend that last Wednesday’s blockage of the PACT Act had to do with a technical argument about which portion of the federal budget would fund $280 billion worth of new allocation for veterans health programs. But 25 Republicans who had recently supported the exact same bill switched their votes last Wednesday, less than an hour after Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) announced their deal on the ambitious legislation unrelated to the PACT Act. Republicans absorbed a series of political blows, led by comedian Jon Stewart and several prominent veterans groups, that, by lunchtime Tuesday, left many ready to settle the matter and vote to send the legislation quickly to President Biden’s desk. “He just beat the daylights out of them,” Schumer said Wednesday in a celebratory visit to a couple dozen veterans who have set up a vigil on the Capitol’s north lawn since last week’s failed vote. Democratic leaders allowed Stewart and dozens of veterans, their families and other supporters into the chamber’s public gallery for the final series of votes — something that has happened less than a handful of times since the onset of the global pandemic in March 2020 prompted officials to not allow the general public into the House and Senate galleries. In the end, 37 Republicans joined 49 members of the Democratic caucus to vote for the legislation, which compels the Department of Veterans Affairs to presume that certain illnesses came from exposure to hazardous waste incineration, mostly focused on the issue of burn pits from recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. That would remove the burden of proof from the injured veterans. Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) missed the vote because of a recent hip-replacement surgery. In the final moments of debate, the activists grew emotional. Stewart, who took up the cause following a similar effort he helped lead for first responders who suffer lingering effects from the 9/11 site, put his head in his right hand and started to cry as the roll call began. The crowd lit up with brief cheers when the gavel fell, getting quickly admonished by officials for breaking decorum that requires silence. Asked to explain the GOP reversal, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) offered no broad explanation and acknowledged the legislation would pass with broad support. “These things happen all the time with the legislative process,” McConnell told reporters at his weekly news conference, conceding defeat. “I think in the end the veterans service organizations are going to be pleased with the final result.” Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.), chairman of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee, credited the veterans groups and Stewart with taking what was previously a relatively obscure health issue and turning it into a national cause. “That’s who really did it, that’s who elevated it,” Tester said as he joined Schumer at the impromptu celebration outside the Capitol. Biden also gave the issue prominence in his March State of the Union address, followed by a trip to a Texas community the next week to drive home its importance. “We’re following the science in every case, but we’re also not going to force veterans to suffer in limbo for decades,” Biden said during the March visit to Texas. In his remarks, the president has noted that his son Beau served in and around Baghdad as a judge advocate general in the Delaware Army National Guard, on bases where waste was burned in an open-air site. The state’s attorney general, Beau Biden died in 2015 from brain cancer, although no diagnosis ever connected the cancer to his service in Iraq or other overseas postings. “While we can never fully repay the enormous debt we owe to those who have worn the uniform, today, the United States Congress took important action to meet this sacred obligation,” the president said in a statement after Tuesday’s vote. “Congress has delivered a decisive and bipartisan win for America’s veterans.” In a sign of his own devotion to the issue, the president planned to surprise the veterans holding vigil outside the Capitol over the weekend with a pizza delivery, but he tested positive for a rebound coronavirus case and resumed his quarantine. Instead, Veterans Affairs Secretary Denis McDonough arrived with the pizza. Experts are often uncertain of a direct link between specific cancers or diseases and the burn pits in Afghanistan and Iraq, where the military often burned large amounts of waste — including plastics, batteries or vehicle parts — that released plumes of dangerous chemicals into the air. Veterans then have to prove there is a direct connection between their cancer and the burn pit chemicals, a threshold that can at times be difficult to meet, particularly if the condition doesn’t develop until years after a deployment. Studies have shown that Veterans Affairs rejects the vast majority of claims. “You could talk to any one of these people and they would say we would rather not be here,” Tester said. Schumer took a similar approach, happy the legislation finally passed. “All’s well that ends well.” Click to expand... The WAPO? Seriously expect an honest run down from that rag? Reactions: WeR0206, Sullivan, bourbon n blues and 1 other person SLUPSU Well-Known Member Aug 5, 2018 4,548 2,622 1 Aug 2, 2022 #22 The Spin Meister said: The WAPO? Seriously expect an honest run down from that rag? Click to expand... LOL, they made it all up, prove it wrong, or move along. Reactions: psuted and maypole psuted Well-Known Member Gold Member Nov 26, 2010 27,638 23,097 1 Aug 2, 2022 #23 SLUPSU said: LOL, they made it all up, prove it wrong, or move along. Click to expand... Fake Reactions: bourbon n blues The Spin Meister Well-Known Member Nov 27, 2012 24,233 27,889 1 An altered state Aug 2, 2022 #24 SLUPSU said: LOL, they made it all up, prove it wrong, or move along. Click to expand... Looks like they made up most of it. Reactions: WeR0206 and bourbon n blues SLUPSU Well-Known Member Aug 5, 2018 4,548 2,622 1 Aug 2, 2022 #25 The Spin Meister said: Looks like they made up most of it. Click to expand... YOU LIE!!!!! L LioninHouston Well-Known Member Gold Member Dec 12, 2005 26,805 40,480 1 Aug 2, 2022 #26 Hotshoe said: Nazis. What an idiot. Click to expand... People who throw that term around are doing nothing but mocking the deaths of millions of Jews and destroying whatever argument they had. Reactions: Dzapper, palmettolion, bourbon n blues and 1 other person M maypole Well-Known Member May 9, 2022 1,433 600 1 Aug 2, 2022 #27 LioninHouston said: People who throw that term around are doing nothing but mocking the deaths of millions of Jews and destroying whatever argument they had. Click to expand... If the shoe fits…. TN Lion Well-Known Member Sep 6, 2001 33,332 13,306 1 Aug 2, 2022 #28 SLUPSU said: So much for all the manufactured outrage, the republicans changed their votes with no changes to the bill. Copy and paste... behind WAPO pay wall Republicans reverse course as Senate passes burn pits legislation after days of pressure​ The Senate overwhelmingly gave the final sign-off Tuesday on legislation designed to aid veterans fighting diseases they believe are linked to toxic exposure, particularly those who served in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. On a 86-11 roll call, the vote served as a political surrender by Senate Republicans, a week after they blocked consideration of the popular legislation seemingly out of political pique because Democrats clinched a party-line deal on an unrelated massive domestic policy bill that could be considered later this week. Republicans tried for several days to contend that last Wednesday’s blockage of the PACT Act had to do with a technical argument about which portion of the federal budget would fund $280 billion worth of new allocation for veterans health programs. But 25 Republicans who had recently supported the exact same bill switched their votes last Wednesday, less than an hour after Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) announced their deal on the ambitious legislation unrelated to the PACT Act. Republicans absorbed a series of political blows, led by comedian Jon Stewart and several prominent veterans groups, that, by lunchtime Tuesday, left many ready to settle the matter and vote to send the legislation quickly to President Biden’s desk. “He just beat the daylights out of them,” Schumer said Wednesday in a celebratory visit to a couple dozen veterans who have set up a vigil on the Capitol’s north lawn since last week’s failed vote. Democratic leaders allowed Stewart and dozens of veterans, their families and other supporters into the chamber’s public gallery for the final series of votes — something that has happened less than a handful of times since the onset of the global pandemic in March 2020 prompted officials to not allow the general public into the House and Senate galleries. In the end, 37 Republicans joined 49 members of the Democratic caucus to vote for the legislation, which compels the Department of Veterans Affairs to presume that certain illnesses came from exposure to hazardous waste incineration, mostly focused on the issue of burn pits from recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. That would remove the burden of proof from the injured veterans. Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) missed the vote because of a recent hip-replacement surgery. In the final moments of debate, the activists grew emotional. Stewart, who took up the cause following a similar effort he helped lead for first responders who suffer lingering effects from the 9/11 site, put his head in his right hand and started to cry as the roll call began. The crowd lit up with brief cheers when the gavel fell, getting quickly admonished by officials for breaking decorum that requires silence. Asked to explain the GOP reversal, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) offered no broad explanation and acknowledged the legislation would pass with broad support. “These things happen all the time with the legislative process,” McConnell told reporters at his weekly news conference, conceding defeat. “I think in the end the veterans service organizations are going to be pleased with the final result.” Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.), chairman of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee, credited the veterans groups and Stewart with taking what was previously a relatively obscure health issue and turning it into a national cause. “That’s who really did it, that’s who elevated it,” Tester said as he joined Schumer at the impromptu celebration outside the Capitol. Biden also gave the issue prominence in his March State of the Union address, followed by a trip to a Texas community the next week to drive home its importance. “We’re following the science in every case, but we’re also not going to force veterans to suffer in limbo for decades,” Biden said during the March visit to Texas. In his remarks, the president has noted that his son Beau served in and around Baghdad as a judge advocate general in the Delaware Army National Guard, on bases where waste was burned in an open-air site. The state’s attorney general, Beau Biden died in 2015 from brain cancer, although no diagnosis ever connected the cancer to his service in Iraq or other overseas postings. “While we can never fully repay the enormous debt we owe to those who have worn the uniform, today, the United States Congress took important action to meet this sacred obligation,” the president said in a statement after Tuesday’s vote. “Congress has delivered a decisive and bipartisan win for America’s veterans.” In a sign of his own devotion to the issue, the president planned to surprise the veterans holding vigil outside the Capitol over the weekend with a pizza delivery, but he tested positive for a rebound coronavirus case and resumed his quarantine. Instead, Veterans Affairs Secretary Denis McDonough arrived with the pizza. Experts are often uncertain of a direct link between specific cancers or diseases and the burn pits in Afghanistan and Iraq, where the military often burned large amounts of waste — including plastics, batteries or vehicle parts — that released plumes of dangerous chemicals into the air. Veterans then have to prove there is a direct connection between their cancer and the burn pit chemicals, a threshold that can at times be difficult to meet, particularly if the condition doesn’t develop until years after a deployment. Studies have shown that Veterans Affairs rejects the vast majority of claims. “You could talk to any one of these people and they would say we would rather not be here,” Tester said. Schumer took a similar approach, happy the legislation finally passed. “All’s well that ends well.” Click to expand... Washington Post, the "news organization" run by a mega wealthy individual that has ultimate control over what it publishes. Why would you expect anyone here to believe what they print when polling clearly shows that a vast majority of the public believe it to be biased and dishonest? I'll take the leadership of veterans orgs word and who agree that democrats are the liars in this case. Reactions: WeR0206, bourbon n blues and Ski SLUPSU Well-Known Member Aug 5, 2018 4,548 2,622 1 Aug 2, 2022 #29 TN Lion said: Washington Post, the "news organization" run by a mega wealthy individual that has ultimate control over what it publishes. Why would you expect anyone here to believe what they print when polling clearly shows that a vast majority of the public believe it to be biased and dishonest? I'll take the leadership of veterans orgs word and who agree that democrats are the liars in this case. Click to expand... SLUPSU said: LOL, they made it all up, prove it wrong, or move along. Click to expand... Jason1743 Well-Known Member Jan 23, 2006 20,052 13,751 1 Aug 3, 2022 #30 John Stewart has more honesty and integrity in his pinky finger than the entire Senate. Stewart has worked tirelessly for 911 survivors and Vets for over fifteen years. The Republican Senate was wrong and they folded like a cheap suit when Stewart called them out. Good job John! Reactions: Hotshoe I interrobang Well-Known Member Aug 21, 2016 21,996 31,841 1 Aug 3, 2022 #31 Jason1743 said: John Stewart has more honesty and integrity in his pinky finger than the entire Senate. Stewart has worked tirelessly for 911 survivors and Vets for over fifteen years. The Republican Senate was wrong and they folded like a cheap suit when Stewart called them out. Good job John! Click to expand... which is why he cried about a bill that he knew was full of left wing pork Reactions: bourbon n blues D Dzapper Well-Known Member May 5, 2019 3,177 4,959 1 Aug 3, 2022 #32 Jason1743 said: John Stewart has more honesty and integrity in his pinky finger than the entire Senate. Stewart has worked tirelessly for 911 survivors and Vets for over fifteen years. The Republican Senate was wrong and they folded like a cheap suit when Stewart called them out. Good job John! Click to expand... Well, it remains to be seen whether or not the Senate Republicans were right or not. They couldn't get their amendment passed so the gimmick provision is alive and well and waiting to be used to add fuel to the inflation fire in the future by the Dem/Socs. Will the press remember how their ability to do so came about? I doubt it. We'll see. The Republicans did fold here. I was in the military for 4 and 1/2 years and I can assure you that vets are like any other group of citizens with rightful claims against the government. They focus on their needs and the government's responsibility to address their service related problems. If their needs are urgent enough, they don't have any interest in looking at the nuances of how those benefits are provided. The Republicans correctly concluded that even though they were right in their objections, the political narrative was stacked against them Feelz> facts once again. They cut their losses and gave in. Good work Dem/Socs, you should be proud. I would venture to guess that 90% of those people camping out on the steps of Congress and the other vets suffering from burn pit health problems would not be able to tell you anything about why the Republicans opposed the bill's passage with the gimmick spending bomb planted in it. They would, most likely, just repeat what the Dem/Soc propaganda machine put out on the matter. The other 10% may be able to explain it, but just don't give a shit about it, so long as their needs are met. That's natural and I can't fault them for that. It's the Dem/Soc pols who manipulated the situation, frontrunners like Stewart and dopes like you who support the deceptive way the PACT bill was presented/passed that I have a problem with. Here is the bottom line. The Bill had overwhelming Republican support for the vet health care provisions it contained. They opposed only the spending gimmick. The vets affected, the MSM (of course) and the loyal brain dead can make all sorts of claims to the contrary, but it doesn't make that narrative true. The Dem/Soc have succeeded with another dirty trick and the vets were used as pawns in order to accomplish that. If that is your definition of "honesty and integrity" it matches up perfectly with the Dem/Soc actions here. I can only hope that more people figure this out at some point. Last edited: Aug 3, 2022 Reactions: psuted, bourbon n blues, Ski and 1 other person W WPTLION Well-Known Member Jan 7, 2002 3,068 2,999 1 Aug 3, 2022 #33 maypole said: Not quite. It was a separate bill that got the Nazis panties in a bunch. “Republicans are mad that Democrats are on the verge of passing climate change legislation and have decided to take out their anger on vulnerable veterans,” Murphy argued. “News emerged that there is an agreement that makes it likely that a climate change bill is going to proceed on the Senate floor, and magically 30 votes flip.” Click to expand... ****TARD ALERT!!!! You really are that DUMB! Reactions: WeR0206 and bourbon n blues W WPTLION Well-Known Member Jan 7, 2002 3,068 2,999 1 Aug 3, 2022 #34 Jason1743 said: John Stewart has more honesty and integrity in his pinky finger than the entire Senate. Stewart has worked tirelessly for 911 survivors and Vets for over fifteen years. The Republican Senate was wrong and they folded like a cheap suit when Stewart called them out. Good job John! Click to expand... Well he just doubled down on STUPID so there goes his honesty and integrity Reactions: bourbon n blues B bourbon n blues Well-Known Member Nov 20, 2019 21,640 25,158 1 Aug 3, 2022 #35 Jason1743 said: John Stewart has more honesty and integrity in his pinky finger than the entire Senate. Stewart has worked tirelessly for 911 survivors and Vets for over fifteen years. The Republican Senate was wrong and they folded like a cheap suit when Stewart called them out. Good job John! Click to expand... Stewart has no honesty or he would’ve been better informed and done due diligence. He’s an irrelevant comedian who was pushing the lies of the left . Reactions: WeR0206, Ski, psuted and 1 other person Hotshoe Well-Known Member Gold Member Feb 15, 2012 26,336 42,643 1 Aug 3, 2022 #36 Jason1743 said: John Stewart has more honesty and integrity in his pinky finger than the entire Senate. Stewart has worked tirelessly for 911 survivors and Vets for over fifteen years. The Republican Senate was wrong and they folded like a cheap suit when Stewart called them out. Good job John! Click to expand... Please. Literally, millions of Americans have worked for, and stood up for Vets. Gary Sinise has done far more than Stewart has ever dreamed of. It's amazing how some of you believe in your God complex of being better than others. It's an absolute fact, many on the left absolutely loathe the military, so spare us the false bravado. Reactions: Ski, Yanks49 and bourbon n blues B bourbon n blues Well-Known Member Nov 20, 2019 21,640 25,158 1 Aug 3, 2022 #37 Hotshoe said: Please. Literally, millions of Americans have worked for, and stood up for Vets. Gary Sinise has done far more than Stewart has ever dreamed of. It's amazing how some of you believe in your God complex of being better than others. It's an absolute fact, many on the left absolutely loathe the military, so spare us the false bravado. Click to expand... They’re all dishonest and they’re all morons. How hard is it to pass a veterans funding bill without the excessive pork? Reactions: Ski, Yanks49, Hotshoe and 2 others Hotshoe Well-Known Member Gold Member Feb 15, 2012 26,336 42,643 1 Aug 3, 2022 #38 bourbon n blues said: They’re all dishonest and they’re all morons. How hard is it to pass a veterans funding bill without the excessive pork? Click to expand... Obviously, very difficult for the Dems. They do this sh&t all the time. This is particularly true when it comes to the military. They hold sh&t up all the time to hold military funding hostage. Reactions: Ski, Yanks49 and bourbon n blues B bourbon n blues Well-Known Member Nov 20, 2019 21,640 25,158 1 Aug 3, 2022 #39 Hotshoe said: Obviously, very difficult for the Dems. They do this sh&t all the time. This is particularly true when it comes to the military. They hold sh&t up all the time to hold military funding hostage. Click to expand... They’re so dishonest I do not believe they are capable of telling the truth . Reactions: Ski Jason1743 Well-Known Member Jan 23, 2006 20,052 13,751 1 Aug 3, 2022 #40 Hotshoe said: Please. Literally, millions of Americans have worked for, and stood up for Vets. Gary Sinise has done far more than Stewart has ever dreamed of. It's amazing how some of you believe in your God complex of being better than others. It's an absolute fact, many on the left absolutely loathe the military, so spare us the false bravado. Click to expand... The fact that John Stewart has done good work doesn't preclude others from doing good work as well. I totally agree, Gary Sinise has done good work. The Republican Senate and Republican politicians in general, not so much. They talk a good game, but when it comes time to back up their words, they come up short. Rudy Giuliani was a horror show when it came the health of 911 first responders. (My sister is a DOL attorney who handled many of the claims). Donny famously held a fund raiser for vets in early 2016 instead of participating in a debate. He "forgot" to turn the proceeds over to the Vets until the liberal rag WAPO called him out on it 3-4 months after the event. 1 2 Next 1 of 2 Go to page Go Next Last You must log in or register to reply here. Similar threads D Manchin: He's OK with spending ANOTHER $400Billion on this latest boondoggle because it will reduce inflation.... Dzapper Jul 31, 2022 Test/Politics Board 2 Replies 50 Views 1K Test/Politics Board Aug 2, 2022 Vic Vaselino V D Is the partisan hack "Of No " Merritt Garland our generation's Benedict Arnold? 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