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ModeratorLegendaryActivity: 2674Merit: 2017 Re: Miners: Time to deprioritise/filter address reuse! November 15, 2013, 05:18:23 AM #4 I'd previously run something similar on my miners.



Beyond encouraging behavior that improves privacy for everyone and making censorship more of a non-starter, this has a benefit of giving naturally more equitable access to the shared resource of the blockchain: If someone is self-identifying as a single user by using an address over and over again, why not use that information to give other transactions (which may all be from independent users) more equal access?



The specific details of what form the deprioritization takes are less clear. Right now this patch implements a hard prohibition on reuse that has a one block scope. E.g. if there are 10 transactions with 1APPLE and if all miners ran this patch it would take 10 blocks for them all to make it in. I'd probably prefer something softer (e.g. treat reuse as having half or quarter the fee/priority), but with longer memory... but the important thing is to get it out there and explore the ideas and effects, and also clean up some of the Bitcoin ecosystem which was lazily reusing addresses constantly for no reason except nothing was incentivizing them to fix it.



We need to get some things (like BIP32) deployed to eliminate some of the sources of reuse, but it does no good if only the paranoids use it, faster confirmations will be an added incentive for the changes than the amorphous and indirect benefits of inoculating our economy against censorship and loss of privacy.

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LegendaryActivity: 1750Merit: 1002 Re: Miners: Time to deprioritise/filter address reuse! November 15, 2013, 05:23:10 AM #6 So you're going to make it harder for people to spend coins they legitimately earned. I have no intention on slowing down transactions on the network by forcing people to implement changes to how they receiving mining payments/accept donations due to overreaction to some Coin Validation scheme that I doubt will ever actually come into existence. I'll react if it shows the slightest sign of ever actually being implemented, but I highly doubt it ever will be in the first place. RIP BTC Guild, April 2011 - June 2015

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NewbieActivity: 58Merit: 0 Re: Miners: Time to deprioritise/filter address reuse! November 15, 2013, 05:35:46 AM #11 Quote from: phillipsjk on November 15, 2013, 05:28:16 AM Quote from: jimmydorry on November 15, 2013, 05:21:05 AM How would this effect things that require a static address? (Donations, etc.)



I personally would prefer to see those HD addresses, or address scopes.



Those things don't require a static address; it is simply much more convenient to use one. Ostensibly, deprioritised transactions may still go though, but it may take hours of days. If you are only emptying such addresses monthly, should not be much of a problem. Fees can likely be used to bump the priority back up.

Those things don'ta static address; it is simply much more convenient to use one. Ostensibly, deprioritised transactions may still go though, but it may take hours of days. If you are only emptying such addresses monthly, should not be much of a problem. Fees can likely be used to bump the priority back up.

Except if you are expecting more than a single transaction every 8mins. Are you saying we should make it harder to use bitcoins? I am all for the change, but there does not appear to be the infrastructure in place to support this change. Implement HD addresses and we would be ready to go. Except if you are expecting more than a single transaction every 8mins. Are you saying we should make it harder to use bitcoins? I am all for the change, but there does not appear to be the infrastructure in place to support this change. Implement HD addresses and we would be ready to go.