these glove be not the worst I have ever have , but they be really not up to the rigor of outdoor work in cold climate . Wet snow seep right through the material . and if it be rain , forget it . you hand will be wet and numb with cold in minute . and to top it off , they smell musty and mildewy -- eeew ! I be still look for a decent pair of outdoor work glove , so I would love to hear some suggestion .