I live in a area be it rarely reach below freezing but rain often . I buy these glove for extended work session where ski glove would shred quickly . the last pair of ski glove I be use to work outside have a Goretex liner . my hand stay dry , but the glove themselves would eventually become waterlogged . before purchase these Ironclad Tundra I be careful to check that there be a outside layer of protection of the element so this would not happen . they have work well for I in this respect . these work great for my purpose . I do not treat they like leather work glove , or expect they to keep I warm at temperature far below freezing . I like the extended wrist , it help keep cold water from run up my sleeve under my jacket . the thin layer of Thinsulate keep I warm enough in my climate and do not make it hard to do my work . these glove have last I through a couple of winter so far , but I do not work outside all day every day . design be compromise and these glove make all the right compromise for my purpose , include ... cost , weatherproofness , breathability , Coverage , durability and warmth !