these be fantastic glove . I get a pair for my mechanic son , who work in he shop without heat once in a while . get they a year ago , he be finally wear they out . bought new pair -lrb- this one -rrb- and he be tell everyone how good they be , put they down in a locker at a roller derby game and they be go within a few minute . have to buy another pair , he can not live without they . say the palm extra material make they fantastic .