despite the wide variation in review and the negative review from very knowledgable people , I decide to try these headphone . the selling point for I be the design of the headphone , and the brand also carry a lot of weight with I . my initial impression of these headphone be horrible . like so many of the other who post , I find the bass to be very , very weak , leave a tinny , high\/mid-heavy sound , which be very annoying . I decide to up the bass boost on the eq setting in my ipod , think that perhaps this would loosen up the driver in the headphone . I play they at full volume for a few minute , while not wear they . I come back for a listen after do this and they sound much better . I then experiment with the fit on my head . I find that if the ear pad be not well seat on my ear the perceive bass be heavily attenuate . now that I have work all this out , I have to say I be very , very impressed with the sound . I have compare they with other , around the neck headphone that I have , and I like the sound of the Sennheisers much better . I like the over the head comfort of this style , but it be somewhat annoying that I have to fiddle with the fit on my ear so much to get the sound right . I think the user must try to get the same kind of seal you get with full size headphone , with these smaller-pad style headphone . there be thing to like and dislike about this style of headphone - but I do not think you need to be scare off by concern of lack in bass . keep in mind that you be purchase a audiophile brand name , but the product be , like so many other thing , make in China . I think this be probably to be expect at this price point .