i just get these in not too long ago and out of over 100 item i have order off ebay these be the first i have be compel to review . . i be you average 20yo guy . . these be great bud for most every kind of music i throw at em . personally i use em for metal most time and they stand up fine . . beat my stock zune headphone and the other 4-5 cheaper phone i have buy . . anyway . . buy these and you 'll want to spread you newfound happiness around amazon , too