these glove be great ! they be size small so order they large like every one else say . they be a little stiff at the web of you finger when they be new but a couple workout and they fit and feel fine . I have no problem with loss of grip do lat pull downs or pull up with these glove at all . the leather in the palm have just the right amount of thickness and be very tough but pliable . the mesh back be breathable and do not overheat you hand . I would have pay twice the price for these if I have to .