pro : very fast card for the old AGP slot ! Easy to install ! driver on include cdrom work just fine despite what other review have say ! no stability issue to speak of ! cosmetically the card look great ! high stock clock and can be overclocked quite high ! gddr3 memory be the only way to go ! con : card require a powerful power supply of 450 watt 30-amp minimum , I recommend a 500 watt 35-amp or better PSU . card require two Molex 4-pin lead from PSU to function properly . this card be very long and as such will not fit in minus tower , full tower only ! other thought : the bottom line be that they no longer make card for the AGP slot . and if you do not want to throw a bunch of money into build a new system , this be you best bang for buck card to keep that older agp system current to the time . I have a first generation single core AMD 64-bit pc which I soon plan to upgrade to dual core because the new bio on my Asus board support they . when install this card , I have to move my hard drive to a lower slot in the bay because the card be so long it extend to the front of they . I use the driver that be on the include disk , they install fine . I have have no instability issue or driver issue since . and I test this card with fear with all option max out , and all I get to say be WOW ! Time to mop the deck with some hozer online : p consider the 3850 come out not that long ago , you will be pretty current with this card and should keep you system go for a year of more till you next upgrade . I be happy with my purchase !