i have the XFX 5870 and it be a beast . this be the first card that i have get that could compete with it . the gtx 580 be a joke and slower than my old card . the hd 5970 be the same performance level . i start think that maybe my processor be bottleneck the performace . the new 7970 actually get better framerate . not by a mile but good enough . i be look at a 25 % performance gain with the stock driver , and a pcus express 2.0 . in a few month i 'll upgrade the processor and motherboard , and the update driver will be out and it should get even better framerate . but that remain to be see . will update when the magic happen .