I be extremely disappoint with this card . I have be in I.T. for 18 year and no user problem , network upgrade , or workstation roll out frustrate or anger I more than try to get those dumb atus driver to load correctly . it be just freakin ridiculous to spend hour try to get a ATI video card set up when with nVidia you could be up and run in about 5 min . it just remind I of why I walk away from ATI video card year ago . but nVidia be also not without fault since they turn they back on all of the agp user who basically make they rich ... I would like for ATI to come up with some type of unify driver for they card so people dont have to go through such a crock of b to get they graphic card work but that would make sense so ATI probably will not do it . I must have install and remove every alleged hotfix from the 8.1 on the CD to the 9.8 on Sapphire 's and ATI 's website for this thing and nothing but my pc freezing when load a game or surf the web . I can not even put my old BFG 6800 gt oc back in because I take it out and give it to a friend when I see the Amazon box sit outside my room . so now I have to dig out this old BFG fx5200 just to have a work pc ... if I could have find a better agp card by nVidia I probably would not be write this review but I wait a bit too long for price to come down . I just hope I make the right decision in request a replacement instead of a refund . win xp pro p4 3.2 GHz 2gb pc3200 RAM A-Power 680w PSU follow up 4 day later ... . I actually would have give it zero star but I have to rate it with at least one but it do not deserve that high of a rating . if you want a agp card that actually work the first time you load the driver , stick with nvidium . ATI be garbage , period . 3 of these POS Sapphire Radeon 3850 , 3 failure that do not work no matter what version of they sorry driver I use . I get some `` Thread Stuck in Device driver '' error , which usually indicate a bad driver , which be almost guarantee with atus , or a bad card ... someone need to pull the plug on ATI for produce such garbage ... I walk away from ATI graphic card 10 year ago , for the same reason I have return 3 of these . I do not know what I be think to have even give ATI another chance . do anyone at ATI or Sapphire know what Quality Assurance be ?