I buy the tundra to work outside , do heavy labor out here on the east coast during the snow storm . they be totally worth every penny . these glove keep my hand warm and stand up to hour of abuse . these guy definitely know what they be do . I have see company copy they look , but do not be fool . they function be second best . I love ironclad and recommend they to everyone . I try Youngstown once because they be cheaper and well , you know the say , `` you get what you pay for . '' my hand be worth more .