I order these as a gift for my boyfriend . I do not order the stand that be suggest . they arrive 3 day after I place my order without pay extra for expedited shipping . con : they do make a little noise when use they . pro : compact , reasonable price , great for a beginner , easy to use , stand be not need if you have a hard , flat surface to place they on . this set be too light -lrb- 24 pound max -rrb- for my boyfriend to get a really good workout . I know they would be light for he so I that be why this be not a con . the more appropriate set for he be out of my price range . I would like to order the next set up as well as the stand , but I have to wait until I can save up the money . other than be on the light side for the boyfriend , we be happy with this set .