"We were trying to think of something that Karen could make a gambit to hang out with Jen, and we thought, 'Oh, it would be so funny if she was super into something so niche,'" Hutchinson shared. As the writers were tossing out ideas, Klein brought up orange wine . "We all just broke out laughing because we all knew about it, but hadn't really had it. We were all like, 'have you had it? Maybe once. Have you had it?'" she said. "It's just a little off-center and not something that Jen seems like she would be into and we just loved it."