"If we’re not close to the topic of mental health or we’re experiencing it and we’re internalising some of the stigma that we’re seeing out there, it stops people from talking about their experience, or disclosing if that’s what they choose to do. And what we really need to do is enable. What we know works really well is if we have people who look like us, who sound like us, have the same sorts of jobs as us or who we look up to. It’s really important that we have role models out there talking about their experience of mental illness because it’s that sense of resonance that then says, 'Well, actually that person’s just like me and if it’s alright for them to talk about it with respect and to have that expectation of respect in return, maybe that’s something I can start to do'."