Why podcasts though? Why not books, for example? "If you were reading, that might not be so distracting because you’re still in that 'verbal' way of thinking, whereas this has a more sensory direction, making it easier to get out of depressive thoughts," Simplicio explains. But she’s also quick to point out that all strategies ought to be looked at subjectively. "Any coping strategy, or therapy, is not good or bad for everyone. There are also people who might argue that distraction isn’t helpful because you’re not addressing the problem. But the two things don’t exist separately. Especially when things are particularly acute – you need something that takes you out of a certain frame of mind, then it might be easier to engage in the problem."