And Read speaks of her own female trainees [who she works with through EVE] with an almost maternal sense of pride. “They can’t shout at the beginning – they either try and shout and nothing comes out, or they’re really quiet. It’s so conditioned in women to be quiet and small, it’s a real hindrance when it comes to wrestling,” she says. “And I see women learn to be big and loud and take up space. And the community spirit is superb.”