The jovial emeritus archbishop retired in 2010 and rarely speaks in public, in a country that sometimes feels adrift without the leadership of its anti-apartheid liberation icons.
Arkiyepiskopi wa jovial emeritus yagiye mu kiruhuko cy'izabukuru mu mwaka wa 2010 kandi ni gake avugira mu ruhame, mu gihugu rimwe na rimwe cyumvikana nta buyobozi  bugaragaragaza ko igihugu kibohoye.