"The key question is political interference," she said. "How do you create a body that is so independent? How do you fund such a body? Which is very difficult. I think these are the struggles that a lot of the anti-corruption, that is faced globally — is how do you maintain independence? And who do they answer to?"
Ati: "Ikibazo cy'ingenzi ni ukwivanga muri politiki." "Nigute ushobora kurema umutwe wigenga? Nigute utera inkunga umutwe nk'uwo? Biragoye cyane. Ntekereza ko izo ari zo ntambara nyinshi zo kurwanya ruswa isi yose ihura nazo- ni gute ukomeza ubwigenge? Kandi ni  bande basubiza?"