And it was interesting to me, my background is in sociology; I had no design training, and sometimes people say, well, that explains it, but it was a very interesting experiment because there's no product that I had to sell; it was simply the image of Microsoft they were trying to improve.
Und ich fand es sehr interessant – mein Hintergrund ist die Soziologie; ich habe keine Design-Ausbildung, und manchmal sagen die Leute: "Na, das erklärt so einiges" – aber es war ein sehr interessantes Experiment, denn es gab kein Produkt, das ich verkaufen musste; es war einfach das Image von Microsoft, das