I am using Debian Jessie with the Mate desktop and I would like to remove systemd from my system. I am following these instructions but as soon as I enterapt-get remove --purge --auto-remove systemdapt-get lists the mate desktop packages mate-desktop-environment, etc as packages to be removed.I knew that Gnome 3 had a dependency on systemd but I thought Mate hadn't: I got Mate running fine on FreeBSD, obviously without systemd.Am I doing something wrong, or otherwise are there perhaps alternative Mate packages for Debian that do not rely on systemd?
Using mate desktop without systemd
debian;systemd;mate
You should be able to run MATE without using systemd as your system's init, but as it stands in Debian currently you need to have the systemd package installed, because mate-desktop-environment ends up depending on libpam-systemd which depends on systemd. To use all this alongside sysvinit (or Upstart) you need to install systemd-shim instead of systemd-sysv.