, also would you be would you want to be like super rich like the richest person in the world


definitely not okay, (mmhmm)


(mmhmm), and I think you will also make you very existential like what's the point of having ambitions and anything if I have money like what's the point of trying to learn new things when I have all the money in the world


ya and you have no friends lah because you can't trust anyone ,


, nothing why can hear ah, oh my god got background noise ah my dad watching TV


ya close <tamil>நான்:naan</tamil> fan off <tamil>பண்ணி:panni</tamil> like I'm so hot right now I'm sweating so much and that's so annoying like okay


no I can't hear anything, okay I can hear it he's watching, he's watching politics, stuff oh my god you know I no he doesn't he don't know how to use phone


oh you know I always have to go and reduce the volume like even when I'm not calling anyone it's just very loud like very annoying, then he like after I reduce he go back and increase it


I don't know , err ya oh my god all my effort, okay okay


okay anyways, oh shit this better get approved I will be so sad , never mind continue lah, oh my god it's so loud


has it been like this throughout the whole thing or is it just now, that sucks


of course uh okay I'm just gonna look for more topics , is there such thing as free will


this is like this is like really deep I think ya, ya I searched, is like hundred and forty great philosophical questions to ask, how to !wah!


ya I don't know eh I want to know what is the no free will argument, that is so hard to wrap my head around like when I want to do something I'm doing it because I want to what


no idea what the question is no way I don't know, okay never mind just take another one what is freedom is true freedom possible okay what is freedom though


, (uh huh), okay ya that's the question is is true freedom possible here what is partial freedom is it like in singapore like


err I don't know, what is the non freedom thing in singapore like you can't say whatever you want about the government right like publicly take for example amos Yee


no I feel like I'm I agree that he was super rude but I really think that okay let's say, ya no I totally agree with that but I really think that uh is totally keep using totally uh like it's not something that should be arrested about because


okay being rude is not a crime ya , like he was sent to IMH and stuff and he had to go to court, like ya being rude is horrible is very irresponsible but it's not a crime


so many people are rude every day so like, just because he was rude about the government on uh #lee kuan yew# doesn't mean he should be arrested that's totally not freedom of speech, don't you feel by the way my brother's not at home this is so stupid


(hmm)


keep order in the country, !huh! why is it not okay though


I feel like instead of doing this and like going the violent way shouldn't you just teach people how to be good instead of like being violent like I really think, nothing I honestly think the right thing to do is no do nothing because that's what freedom of speech means


(mmhmm) (mmhmm), that's not freedom of that's because people are stupid


okay what do you mean first by what's happening in america like what you referring to, no I don't think racism is not okay people are racist all the time


you can't just let's say some I in primary school so many people have said oh you're black or like how come I go swimming pool I come back right they'll be like oh how come you so black this kind of stuff I don't think they should be arrested for that I think they should be educated, ya racism is just everywhere I don't think you can just arrest people for being racist


(mmhmm), (mmhmm)


ya but if you don't say it respectfully and you're vulgar so what do you think they should be should be done to those people like arrested meh, because he was literally like okay like I'm totally for like ya like I don't know why he's sent to IMH is like they literally making him look like a psycho just for speaking his mind


ya I mean everyone has everyone has intense thoughts no one is no one states it on YouTube that's the difference so they ya


I don't know where we're going with this discussion ,


I think they arrest because they don't want that mindset to spread among the people I don't think there are actual intentions is to like care about caring about responsibility like they just don't want this err you know he was talked bad about #lee kuan yew# right so he didn't they don't want that to be spread to the people so they make him look like a psycho


and I feel like that's very too restricting you shouldn't try to restrict people's thoughts and opinions even though it's very bad against you went totally inappropriate I think everyone has the right to have inappropriate thoughts , even though ya even though it's bad and like uh let's say okay


I cannot eh I primary two only haven't primary two secondary two secondary two only I watched the video he say he was just being very rude lah he say that he is a he was like calling him bad words, and stuff ya and talking about uh how singapore everyone needs controlling you stuff like that


I honestly think it's not that bad in my opinion lah like it's pretty restrictive compared to other countries but I feel like err to an extent you have to be strict to build up a country, you know ya (mmhmm)


(uh huh)


what teacher IPP what okay okay


, not the


ya that's what I thought too ya, (mmhmm) I agree


ya ya because err okay my brother told my brother showed me a video of, #tan cheng bock# last time like many years ago uh you know how the people in the constituency are nominated when are elected by the people right like right now


is elected by people but uh there was a time when PAP tried to nominate people instead like instead of election you get what I mean the MPs, and that's like what is even the point of democracy for doing that right like you don't even call yourself for democracy


and then err #tan cheng bock# he's PAP right but he went to the stage and be like oh I cannot stand for this like he really speaks his mind you know like no matter which ah ya so like that video also made me really like him like now you know his social media is very cute and stuff


but I think like he before like this election he was a super serious guy and like he really ya I mean he still serious lah it's just shows this side of him on personal social media ya that's just to make, ya ya and it's like totally working I'm also falling for it like I love him so much


ya err ya anyways it's just that I really admire him, (mmhmm)


ya, #pritam singh#


(mmhmm) , (mmhmm)


oh


(mmhmm), positive way to look at it ya


(mmhmm), oh have you heard last time like this a PAP person voted for opposition and she was like uh they give they made up some weird excuse in like this sector, did you heard did you have you heard of have you heard it I've no idea my mum told me


no but I I don't think it actually happened lah I think it's just like a conspiracy theory and, ya


ya lah I mean they've been like they have been winning for so many years then is obviously they are really good it's just err sometimes they play dirty lah there's the issue


(mmhmm), especially younger people I feel like like this this election if the younger people voted like eighteen plus I feel like it will be totally different


so so they will just work that's why you will totally mess it up like you will just shake the whole thing up ,


(mmhmm)


oh okay oh that's why ah, (mmhmm)


and I feel like they're probably more passionate also and excited you know , ya, oh ya I think like you know the west coast like he's so popular on social media but he didn't he didn't win right I think west coast has lot of old people also it's like a old estate right so it's pretty hard to ya I think he is good that he focus on the younger generation but maybe he didn't focus enough


focus enough on the older one right like they're all loyal to PAP , like when I go a relative house right and then I remember like few years ago I think it was the two thousand eleven one, uh like we went the house there and then like people were just joking around uh about the


elections and then like oh PAP lah of course PAP like they don't really think about it, they just oh automatic over PAP and there's this thing lah err I've seen it in one of the Instagram thing social media also like the the fear of if you vote for opposition they will lose their jobs and stuff like that I think it's a


it's a pretty big deal ah because most of my relatives worked in a government jobs like HDB, don't know what lah and they don't dare to vote for anything else and the margin is so high that it actually makes a difference like there's some statistics ah like the margin of


PAP like you know the small margins where PAP win it's like you compare that margin to the the percentage of people who are afraid to vote for opposition the the afraid ones is actually higher so it legit affects the amount of seats


loyalty


(mmhmm), oh ya, ya they have been like winning automatically for so many years and okay I also don't feel like I'm it's not like I don't like PAP you know like they've been in power for so many years they are the ones with the experience and ya like if a new party comes in


that's true but I feel like in order for there to be some err, order you have to have uh PAP I don't know that's what I feel lah like if it's totally switched then I think they will be at a loss because the habit like if a new like let's say worker's party comes in and they are like majority of the seats they're not really used to it I feel


ya ya ya but it's only recently they have been like a bit more prominent right, [orh] legit no I know that previous one they they had like a I think two thousand eleven right it was the first time they won


ya that's what I heard lah ya like this is the first time opposition won or something, yeap, no it was I remember it was eleven you know how now also it's supposed to be two thousand twenty one but they change the date uh ya so I don't know I don't know why is two thousand eleven but I remember it was eleven fifteen and twenty


what , ya


elections


oh oh ya ya there's like some useless parties also right, oh about the independent ya that's the lamest one, oh like I remember last time like during the rallying days right like each party will come out and make a speech and then the independent guy will come and be like oh vote for me and people will just make fun of him like I don't know why they even try


!huh! then you just wasted that money, oh my god


maybe he just has some money to waste and then he's like oh might as well run, this is what I will do if I'm the richest person in the world just run for president


(mmhmm) not really I was kind of unfocused but okay


oh okay, and also it's #lee hsien loong# ya


(mmhmm), ya ya I get it (mmhmm)


okay explanation oh oh, (mmhmm)


[oh] (ppl), I mean it's fun to think about but I don't know if it's real, (mmhmm) ya, [oh] ya and you know in my area it's legit like the lamest [one]


ya ya I can hear you


!aiya! it's okay it's okay I can hear you loud and clear man, okay okay so I think we should talk about Kishan first, okay to the AI robot listening to us Kishan is this guy right in our CCA in this club that we used to go to ah and he's like


he's a very, , yes you could say he is quite desperate because he like he has already confessed to like four girls and like !wah! he die die wants to get a girlfriend by the end of poly man


right and why he confessed to these four girls are hidden in the span of like one year leh like !wah! that's that's very fast right


oh my god okay okay ya lah okay but the thing is right in our club we all have to like kind of act blur that we don't know that he has confessed to these girls because it's damn weird to talk about it to the person himself right you can't just be like eh Kishan I know you confess to girl A B C D and they all rejected you


ya ya true I think, okay lah I think there's really his good point that he's very thick skinned I I know he's working as a sales promoter like part time now during his FYP and I think it really suits him ah because as you say as you and I have both said he's very thick skinned


, ya I know right and then also like somebody that you and I both mutually know they actually have told me that


they actually have told me that err Kishan has like confessed to them when he is tipsy through instagram eh like he message them saying eh actually like I think you very Chio and then the the friend that I know who told me this is like err okay like that's what she


ya ya ya you know the person is not unexpected she is really pretty, no, no


okay lah but this one is not like a full out confession it's just like a drunk confession to her via instagram saying like you very Chio you know those type of compliment superficial compliments, it's not recently but eh actually ya I think is this year but it's not recently


no lah guess lah go go I you just guess I'll I'll tell you if it's right or wrong


ya it's Raksha, ya that's why I say she very pretty right, ya lah but she was quite like bothered by it cause he messaged her while he was drunk like he he prefaced it saying like eh I'm a bit tipsy and I find you very Chio like a very creepy way don't you think it's quite creepy


I don't think Kishan is good looking, I think Kishan I think Kishan is well groomed but I don't think he's like good looking like that type of criteria eh


no you are more good looking than Kishan, oh my god you not Paiseh meh oh my god


okay okay no lah anyway back to the Kishan topic right, err ya so AI you have heard from us that you know his back story is that he has confessed to like so many girls, oh my god ya okay anyway so recently right I do you know I posted that story of


when I drew that like I drew that character just shrugging, ya ya then he replied to my story saying like eh denise can I ask you for some advice, okay no no actually before that he complimented my drawing ah and then it was a bit we just had some chats but then after that he said that and then I was like err you can but like my advice might be wrong you know like I don't know everything in this world


ya it was quite late at night also, and then then he tell me that he liked his close friend like he's fallen in love with his close friend, you know just let me continue this one you must always find the story


no ah


actually true but megan but he knows megan is has a boyfriend and they are like and that at that time they were very close no the whole thing that makes this very special is that he confessed to her during COVID


a moment of silence for our fallen brother


ya I think I think he really cannot make it in like the the relationship world leh like he just so he just so strong and pushy with his emotions like okay we both know megan is in a very secure relationship with her boyfriend and if they were close friends which they were he also knows that but he still he not only confessed ah he confessed and then he told me he pushed a little too hard


I, I think I actually didn't think that he was not I I actually do feel like he's desperate but I think you have a valid point of also ah cause that makes sense


ya ya no okay ya thank you for that no lah but going back to the I also don't think you are like that chubby yet but just wait anyway no lah but going back to the Kishan thing right


he also there was once ah he got post this closed story where he said that his close friend called him err manipulative and only wanting sympathy are you are you on his close friend list


I think that's totally fine I'm totally fine with that I'm I I cannot connect Kishan you know that what, okay no lah but my whole point is that I think he said that megan was the one that totes said that he's like only manipulating her and only wanting sympathy like after he pushed very hard I mean a bit too hard in his own words


okay no ah but I mean why why do you think he's manipulative though


so <mandarin>你觉不觉得他他是要:ni jue bu jue de ta ta shi yao</mandarin> sympathy <mandarin>吗:ma</mandarin> do you think he's looking for sympathy


I think, ya lah cause you know when I told this to my other two friends right, the the whole difficulty we had like with my other two friends when I shared with them this was also to wrap our heads around the fact that megan has a boyfriend and they are very close okay her and her boyfriend in a very secure relationship and Kishan and her are close friends so why he go and suddenly like want to just confess to her and ruin everything


one Kishan I'm not Kishan'S type, but yes anyway two


hello excuse me <mandarin>你有没有听你自己讲话我:ni you mei you ting ni zi ji jiang hua wo</mandarin> hor <mandarin>我跟他已经认识了一年:wo gen ta yi jing ren shi le yi nian</mandarin> leh if he like if he ever liked me he would have confessed a long time ago therefore <mandarin>我没错他我:wo mei cuo ta wo</mandarin> not his type anyway end of story anyway no the point is I wanted to tell you that uh he told me that cause I did ask him ah how did she respond


you know and then he told me like she said she told him that they could still be friends, like at the the first


and plus like it's even more surprising cause you know megan and the boyfriend situation is like, it's so much they are like one person they're not even they're just so so close right, ya so I think I don't know lah maybe she just feel like


I don't know cause I only you know megan better than me what my only impression of her is that she's the president and I only hear bits and pieces from angel


thanks


the AI bot scanning our speech patterns and just being like it is now an awkward conversation lah no I think that's true I think that's true ya what about it


erica, adele


they have strong personalities, confidence, strong


[orh]


but then erica really just spoils the whole theory there and he did like her for he liked erica erica he liked erica for a much longer time than like adela avery all those people


eh ya you have a point leh, but then, ya he's just so strange, like do you remember that time he told you that he called his he called his fat he called his fat he called his ex fat


I think you told me before that he message you then he told you like [orh] my ex is fat now


you know they say that big foreheaded people are smart okay no lah eh <mandarin>你不要你不要讲废话:ni bu yao ni bu yao jiang fei hua</mandarin> okay <mandarin>每每天讲这些东西:mei mei tian jiang zhe xie dong xi</mandarin> no lah but err what I'm trying to say is that I think he probably still has issues with his ex girlfriend also like <mandarin>你你记得那天我跟你讲我知道:ni ni ji de na tian wo gen ni jiang wo zhi dao</mandarin> Kishan'S <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> reddit <mandarin>对不对:dui bu dui</mandarin> then <mandarin>我去:wo qu</mandarin> stalk <mandarin>他:ta</mandarin> and then I saw him <mandarin>他有写他的他跟他的:ta you xie ta de ta gen ta de</mandarin> ex girlfriend <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> memories and how he like


you know how he recalled back saying that on new year he still remember when he was kissing her like all those type of very intimate memories he he placed it on reddit, like within this year


but then you know


Kishan <mandarin>我觉得我我不知道为什么可是我觉得我跟他:wo jue de wo wo bu zhi dao wei shen me ke shi wo jue de wo gen ta</mandarin> really <mandarin>不可以:bu ke yi</mandarin> click <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> leh like our <mandarin>我们的:wo men de</mandarin> personality is just so it's not even fire water it's just so like it's like mud and earth I don't know just


ya true true


okay okay perhaps


especially if <mandarin>我知道:wo zhi dao</mandarin> megan right like okay megan and I are not close lah but I know of her existence, and I'm a girl so we tend to talk


but do you think Kishan does not know about this part about himself


this blind this cannot be a blind spot it's so so dominant, you there's no way he can act blur about this right like this so it's so glaring he's done it so many that he has a therapist I don't know I hope the therapist is doing something


actually <mandarin>你你说得对:ni ni shuo de dui</mandarin> lah I agree I agree man, no okay lah but Kishan I I really, don't know how I cannot imagine a girl dating him can you imagine


can I take a guess, is it girls who are very desperate


can I try again, okay , err can give me a hint leh


just just to be clear it's not anybody we know mutually right that would even


Nasreen, far


!aiyo! I tell you ah if I ever hear Fatin like Kishan ah I will faint man I cannot


speaking of Fatin I don't even understand the whole Fatin and gerald thing, ya actually I can see it too


he he he, wait but what does this have to do with gerald


actually true leh I think by then gerald should have known her feelings !aiyo! that's terrible, I I don't like gerald I'm sure you know I don't like, K any


I think I think same lah same for me, it's the idea but it's not don't like him as a person


oh my god right okay actually mine was not that reason but I feel like he's just making use of me like the whole time during exco and like after that then when we finally stopped talking it was just so much more relaxing


ya and do you remember I told you that he's like very arrogant and egoistic like he will always try to #geh geh# and sneak in some err what's that sneak in some compliments about himself those type he was always try to lowkey brag about himself and his lowkey brag it's not lowkey because it's actually high key once you start to notice the bragging


I want to guess I wanna guess, he want validation


I think the word you are missing is self esteem, ya maybe !aiya! I don't know lah let's just go back to the Kishan thing


err I mean or we can continue talking about gerald which one you want, oh okay rachel do you think I you know okay like there was this point right I really thought rachel and gerald like each other eh like I really really thought that but then ah now when I look in hindsight I feel like maybe they are really just friends I don't know what do you think


no no, they they definitely, okay not they lah but I know gerald did like her before in secondary school but I don't know about rachel but I mean now like or like recently in poly times


[orh], [orh]


they sucked , but then that's like such a missed chance right


!aiyo! oh my god shy shy you not Paiseh to say these kind of thing meh, okay no lah but but I feel that, I feel that the whole gerald and rachel but you know when gerald brought rachel purposely to like meet Fatin


know her place quote on quote you know it's like such a bad move, wait what,


I I totally forgot that happen oh my god !aiyo! <mandarin>我的天我不可以:wo de tian wo bu ke yi</mandarin> I feel so bad that was that was horrible that was so awkward oh my god <mandarin>我跟你讲我我做那边:wo gen ni jiang wo wo zuo na bian</mandarin> ah <mandarin>那个那个你的:na ge na ge ni de</mandarin> ex <mandarin>跟他的朋友有没有跟我们:gen ta de peng you you mei you gen wo men</mandarin> no they got talk to us <mandarin>是你是你没有跟他们讲话:shi ni shi ni mei you gen ta men jiang hua</mandarin> then <mandarin>你你坐:ni ni zuo</mandarin> you sat so close to me and I was like what's going on but then I was just like well this is super awkward let's just sit here


oh my god


no no no no wait but how can how could you and #shi qi# have dated for so long <mandarin>你们你们:ni men ni men</mandarin> like, oh


she was desperate or she really liked you, ladies


but then from like all the messages that she has reshared on instagram after your break up it she she is describing your love you guys love <mandarin>你们两个的:ni men liang ge de</mandarin> the teenager <mandarin>的爱:de ai</mandarin> as something that <mandarin>她永远不会忘记如果她不知如果:ta yong yuan bu hui wang ji ru guo ta bu zhi ru guo</mandarin> I mean that would have mean that the thing you two shared together really meant a lot to her


I just think she has issues, I can vouch for that I'm a girl I'm crazy when no lah but like her she's so you know the whole like her putting the instagram story thing she did it on purpose for you to see and for me to see


or like at least for you to see


like okay from personally for her she does that to like relieve stress or like she so she she says that she purposely does intentionally send these messages for intentional people to like relieve stress lor


ya ya ya I feel like is a half half thing and also do you remember that whole like the poll where I post the tellonym thing then there was this person who asked the question like eh your ex and your eh not my ex your boyfriend ex and you and your boyfriend are all friends now is that awkward I'm pretty sure that was just done by one of her friends who want to like stand up for her or something oh wait you think it's cheryl I still think it's her friend


or like not cheryl, wait wait wait wait cheryl does not follow me, ya I don't let her follow me


it <mandarin>不不可以是一个:bu bu ke yi shi yi ge</mandarin> random person you know why, it cannot be a random person because nobody else nobody really knows the situation I didn't even tell my friends I didn't even call #shi qi# a friend to my friend my friends definitely don't know strangers won't know I also won't just tell them like eh I got tell her I'm a friend also won't right the only person who kind of would know is #shi qi# and me


her friends , she follows me


okay lah I don't know fine fine I don't know


ya the phrase you are looking for as far fetched, perhaps K lah anyway whatever fine


actually true lah cause it's very <mandarin>麻烦:ma fan</mandarin> to like to mark them low on peer evaluation right cause the teacher will normally come approach you then it's like so much trouble


I can confidently type out the explanation to the teacher


eh but then now you're not in the same class as her right, , but then like I never hear you talking about cheryl eh


Limpeh clap for you


I know I know I also got this type of people in my class ah but I think cheryl is very extreme, ya


that's, that's true anyway okay lah but you know the the person in my class there are like three people in my class that's the who are the ones that really don't like do any work at all


no lah like I'm being serious I told you right during mary's lesson I purposely avoided getting into the same group as this guy cause I know that he's he might he's he's not good at his studies and


and he also has like a very he's just very he always want to depend on people one like that time he got he go and call my friend ah then he ask her to explain everything to him and he he asked her to help him write a letter to the teacher to ask about his project which is damn stupid


and then she did it lah , no I she's !aiya! I tell you already my class the people are very passive one, so when they encounter this type of like people who will push work to them they will just accept until they really cannot Tahan already then they explode then they will


not even do something but just avoid them more


okay first of all what a flex second of all what do you mean because your friend is britney


really, sure or not


how explain more eh


that's so nice that's so wholesome


I can't understand that


no lah but it's very nice eh for you to find such a like very objective friend in work like I I feel like it's very that's the one thing I admire about like you and britney you guys can really talk things out objectively in the group project I still find it quite hard cause you know my group projects all with people I know and like either my friends ya so there's always still be that fear for me like are they gonna take it the wrong way then it's just much more troublesome


ya lah but I think I've already been doing group projects like almost Agak-Agak the same people this few two years so it's like more or less we know each other's working style already


that's very nice I hope !aww! man I hope you guys can get into the same pathways in the future or like somehow meet each other in work and then you will be the ultimate power team or something


, why


that's very nice I don't know I I cannot I don't think I've really worked with him I only work with him a bit for camp


he is okay ah but, oh my gosh today we talked about cheryl we talked about Kishan who else ah, oh ya ya I almost forgot we talked about #shi qi# we talked about kinda #reu ben# we talked about


ya ya ya britney, I feel like our whole conversation was really just about talking about people


thank you very much (ppl)


eh hi can you hear me, okay good I just got a new wireless earpiece so that I a bit worried my connection not that good lah


okay let's start this thing, who is Kishan


desperate, desperate


continue, let me clarify something four girls that we know off alright you know how all those mass murderer right they have thirty seven kill at hundred and eight unconfirmed this is four confirm rejection there might be there might be ten percent of the actual number we know because we don't really talk to this


desperate person but ya forecast that have for body count again nobody come means you have this nobody come for rejection


ya I think he have a quota lah every quarter must get correct what every quarter quarter must get rejected at least once if never get rejected once right cannot his twenty twenty or twenty nineteen twenty eighteen plan is year of rejection at every month he must he have a excel sheet that he go back and then when he look at this excel sheet he must say first first two months must be as creepy as possible last month must find as much opportunity as possible to ask the question so that he will get rejected that's how err this is like cyber bullying eh I feel bad


but then I think I think he he he he something what I what I looked up to him lah is he he damn thick skinned he won't Paiseh one, you know if it was me I I, ah you know I very <mandarin>害羞:hai xiu</mandarin> one right I take I take like one one year to ask a girl out cannot then this one !wah! my hats off to him ah damn power this person


but thick skin is not good you know when it comes to sales right you cannot firstly when firstly being thick skinned doesn't mean you are good at sales because you can be someone who is just a hard seller and then just push things sales is basically when someone need something that you sell if not you don't sell and then when it comes to Kishan right err in terms of relationship and if if I'm the girl lah okay I look at this guy if if I really like Kishan okay if there's any girl that really like Kishan which is very rare but imagine if there is ah okay let's just give it a thought if I'm a girl who really like Kishan and then I learnt that Kishan confessed so many girl and then how would I feel


you know when Kishan confessed to me is this genuine, is this a genuine thing or is it am I just like one of other girls


don't, do I know the person, erica, have you told me about the person before, ha, so okay I know adela I know vanessa


I know oh actually I only know these two ah I feel like I know more leh


this is recently, [orh] <mandarin>我知道了:wo zhi dao le</mandarin> megan


ya I want know, I don't know it is it chinese, every single girl oh my god you realized that every single girl that Kishan has confessed to is chinese which is why I make the the the uh the the the the the this is a anomaly


I don't know, my god Raksha, ya, honestly Raksha quite Chio eh, ya, ya


ya but err Kishan may be able to get away with the creepy factor because I I think personally lah if you don't know Kishan I think Kishan is quite good looking imagine if zack was the one who send that message


I think Kishan is good looking, if, K lah I guess he's not he's not !wow! model good looking lah right but but I think he's better looking at me


or, I I actually just wanted to force you to hear that I just I just wanted to make you say that, cannot I'm gonna act blur and I'm just gonna act blur


ya, okay I like where this is going


megan, who who I don't care about like the is is the whole the whole thing with the same thing like Kishan you know


must fall in love with this girl the girl doesn't like her so it's the same the only thing that's like, you know special gossipy is is the year and that's all I care about


but moment of silence for, I don't know, I I


he is just I don't know I remember the first time I I I I I I I met Kishan I remember the first thing that I said I was like you're you're one of the type of guy who like like I was I was like just trying to play like you know mind games lah then I was like know I predict that gerrard is this kind of person then I look at Kishan and then I jokingly said you are the type of person who go online to learn how to date and Kishan was like ya I am I was like shit I was just joking


I remember I remember I was like [dey] [dey] [dey] [dey] but ya it's true


ya I think , I think it come from a point of, not selfishness but a point of also not desperate I don't think Kishan is desperate at all because if Kishan is desperate this is


he it will be more than this it will be way worse than this the fact that the fact that we only have like four uh confirmed case right means that he's not desperate err not not desperate enough I I think I think really he he come from a point where he has very low self confidence


which is why which is why he you know, he he position he I feel like Kishan he give me the vibe out where where he, he he wanted to portray himself as a very confident person you know


lowkey he he groom myself damn well he you know he try to play this cool guy you know like ya okay I ya you know I don't know I just get the vibe that he he tried to play that lah, right and ya


I don't know I feel like I don't know lah but then I I don't know how to say


ya, ya, I don't know, I you know I actually texted Kishan today I asked him if he wanted to err go gym cause you know this holiday eh this I damn damn sad eh today I go download google fit or I think I don't know whether I download or I just I just go check google fit again lah I look at


post COVID right I was seventy three KG, right now I am almost ninety, then then I look at that I was like <mandarin>惨了:can le</mandarin> lah everyday I eat potato chip, stress eat lah I I keep stress eating I eat potato chip then <mandarin>每天晚上:mei tian wan shang</mandarin> you know


you <mandarin>你要你要你要:ni yao ni yao ni yao</mandarin> you want to burn the midnight oil then you go drink red bull everyday even though the the red bull it says no sugar lah but I keep eating and I I feel like I getting fatter and fatter then I ask him you want go gym or not then he say ya but then need to book in advance lah I don't think I will go gym he he I'll just go swimming


I am me I think I'm closer to Kishan that you are closer to Kishan, I know, I know


and megan megan will be correct, ya, it ya, do you think I'm manipulative I'm just making this conversation about myself I'm a narcissist, so let's talk about Kishan let's talk about me


I I feel bad now after I ask that question I I immediately take it back I was like no no no <mandarin>不可以:bu ke yi</mandarin> already <mandarin>不可以不可以这样:bu ke yi bu ke yi zhe yang</mandarin> must must give everyone fair chance to talk about let's talk about Kishan let's not talk about me


no ah I I don't think his intention I don't think it is is like oh I want to manipulate her to feel this way I don't think that's the case I think


Kishan Kishan was, he's he's trying to push his own intent or his own desire onto someone else is is more selfish than manipulative, but manipulative is in a sense selfish oh I like philosopher or I narcissist


I I don't think he wants sympathy he want, err


he want megan to care about her but not sympathy, and then again then again I'm looking it I I don't have access to the chat I'm just you know seeing it from your, outside ya so so I think I don't think she like oh please please I mean she she will he want sympathy is a part of you know megan caring about her but I don't think she want sympathy specifically but just caring


definitely red flag confirmed I confirmed, is what even Kishan did in my opinion is, very <mandarin>自私:zi si</mandarin> right we cannot I I it's it's not something that I don't know lah I don't know lah if you are just going it you you you know how I feel about it right right I just I don't know how express express it but ya


I don't know, I don't know but I I do respect Kishan though he he like not Paiseh at all one


then again then again okay I don't want to put for megan I don't want to put for megan you I know I see your face now I know okay hear me out first okay, I let let's take a look at it okay maybe I maybe okay


let's look at what happened after how did megan react, did megan just say fuck off which she should if she say anything less than that right, then is it's, I I'm not saying that megan led Kishan off okay not the case but


the fact that Kishan I don't think Kishan is like no EQ at all I think Kishan has EQ alright I think Kishan is a very smart person in that way but


how the megan turned out if megan like, let it go let him down let him down slowly or like softly then, I think is kinda megan fault not like fault fault but megan should have been more resolute you be like you know I have a boyfriend


this is crossing the line, anything less than that, if if if Kishan will do that if if you were megan I would want you say that, it's not your fault to you know I'm not saying that if you like let Kishan down softly you are at fault


but I have higher expectation of you ah I just telling you first ah I just telling your first in case Kishan ever hit on you, I tell you already you have you have been warned


are you sure Kishan has proven to like a person like, girls who are attached and you are attached so that means that means that you fall under under the category of Kishan type


ah you see that you see that you see that over there you cannot say that ah I tell you already you cannot say that ah it cannot act blur one okay when when it comes to Kishan you must no cannot be like ya !huh! what what no cannot cannot maybe it make you feel good or whatever but you must be like no Kishan <mandarin>不可以这样:bu ke yi zhe yang</mandarin> oh wait Kishan doesn't speak chinese cannot like that I got boyfriend okay


#yu xiang# is not fit he cannot beat you up okay but you cannot do this to him


I think megan is a very attractive girl, ya she's definitely way more attractive than you, ya that's why that's why uh Kishan Kishan like Kishan you know never never never never confess to you


but but confess to keep it to to megan, ya, ,


, oh my god why you like that one I was just making a joke I think I think ya I think Kishan you know what I think Kishan type is, if you look at you look at, all the known person ah megan Raksha


vanessa, adela anyone else that I don't know, they they all have a common theme, erica [orh] erica is the odd one out, okay adele still fall into ya adele I forgot about her already so if you look at this you look at this what does adele


adele adela okay !aiyo! vanessa <mandarin>还有:hai you</mandarin> err erica no erica is odd one out okay ah adele <mandarin>还有:hai you</mandarin> vanessa <mandarin>还有:hai you</mandarin> err Raksha K what does this three person have common and megan what does this three these four person have in common


correct and what does Kishan don't have, no what is Kishan, trying to be, ya he's trying to put this person out of himself out


you see you see so my my my my grand conspiracy theory right is this Kishan is trying to date, some or Kishan is looking for someone that is trying to be


K then you must look not not necessary strong quality but what does what does err, what does if you put adela in there's still one common theme they're all very eloquent and what does eloquent mean eloquent means you know someone with good social skill blah blah blah whatever you wanna call it correct same common theme for all the other girls maybe she does not have like oh you know I am a type A personality like the rest of them but kinda not that strongly but erica still fall in in the piece


obviously I'm the best


really, really well I call my current girlfriend uh ugly I call my current girlfriend stupid and I call my current girlfriend err


unattractive err I call my current girlfriend, err old I call my actually I don't I call my current girlfriend err I don't know I don't know any any other adjective


to describe, unattractive sum sum sum the whole thing up oh ya big forehead ya philippines maid, big


I don't think, I don't remember you telling me that I think you told #reu ben# that, you told me that, eh you !huh! look I that's why I don't care about you ah, I care about I err you are you are you are like bloop and then like you like nothing nothing to


ya confirm, I mean I mean like, isn't isn't that isn't that, isn't that, what all of us want like we want, we want someone who is similar to us or when similar to us not like similar to us now but the ideal version of us


alright, that's why you dated george Wee, , , ya


Kishan is someone who is err, when when it comes to you right and you look at the type of person who you are who you are friends with what kind of person are you looking for


you are looking for someone who can be committed, not not say not say in a relationship or whatever but you are looking for someone who will be there for you, correct, right that's that's like look at angel look at #reu ben# look at not me lah kind of not there lah but but look at your friends your friends are you want people who are supportive or I don't know the correct adjective or you want someone who's supportive someone who is there for you someone who will give you time who will care for you that's that that that theme you know that's that's your that's the kind of person you are looking for right


and then when you look at look at #reu ben# no not #reu ben# when you look at Kishan Kishan is just, what he want is like, he want


someone who is like very high up ambitious kind of person, ya, he he want like, high achiever like !wah! number one <mandarin>第一:di yi</mandarin> champion of the world that kind


which you are not ya like the bottom bottom <mandarin>下面那个:xia mian na ge</mandarin> !wah! <mandarin>垃圾桶那种:la ji tong na zhong</mandarin> !hey! <mandarin>开一个垃圾桶:kai yi ge la ji tong</mandarin> then denise pop up the type,


I feel like we should send this audio to Kishan, I feel like we're dissecting Kishan, psychology, if someone would have did a similar thing on me and I would hundred percent want to disagree even if it's like !wah! #yu xiang# is damn stupid or #yu xiang# is


you know we're very bad person are you if they talk bad about me but you know they they understand things that I do understand about myself I'll definitely want to know


do you think you have blind spot I think I would have blind spot but I'm not sure whether Kishan know or not, really


I think the, mean okay this is the the whole flaw about therapists you


in order for a therapist to fix your problem you need to know your problem first, right but then if <mandarin>你开始的时候你不懂你:ni kai shi de shi hou ni bu dong ni</mandarin> oh you don't know what your problem is what then you go to the therapist then you just input your own point of view


how can the therapist fix it


I mean like, don't know lah, this kind of thing, I don't know lah you you know you know they say personal development self help is self and personal, right cannot like !wah! must must so what if is three year with someone's guidance the fact that he's depending on someone else means it will take longer for him because he's depending on someone he's depending on external not looking inwards


ya number one boyfriend


I can, I can for sure you want you want you want me to describe


okay two type okay two type of girl Kishan will will will uh, two type of girl that we will like Kishan, okay, ya ya


no if is desperate then there is like a short term thing I'm talking about long term, now cannot already because K K try again try again try again, err let me think of a person to describe


err, ya, have can err what's what's her name Raksha best friend


ya someone like Nasreen, apart I mean like you take you take Nasreen quality and you exaggerate it a bit oh Fatin also fall into the equation, that that personality


that is the same reason why Fatin like gerald, no Fatin wouldn't like Kishan but it's like the theme over there


!aiya! gerald led Fatin on for sure, ya, I would have never ask you to go movie to movie with me if I never led you I'll have never I would I would have never went to science centre with you if I have never like you


ya, gerald asked Fatin out, right, I I remember them going to movie or something like that or like Fatin tell gerald I don't know I don't know how lah but then gerald went


ya, ya


I also don't like gerald I like gerald, I like my idea of gerald I don't like gerald


I think gerald gave me like you know for the first time I meet gerald !wah! this person like you know very very cool lah like it's somebody you can hang out with but once you get to know him, he is different lah he, he want to hang out with you because it makes him feel good


I don't know, gerald is, I don't know gerald just gerald lah


if you look at everything gerald is not arrogant, gerald want he what he want, he want to, the the the the same reason why he hang out with you to make him feel good it's the same reason why he bragged about himself


he want to I don't know how to how to phrase it lah, ya ya, yes that's the word he want validation likes ya social proof that's why not not like oh he feel like he's inadequate he he doesn't feel that he's inadequate but he feels that ya he he boasts his boost his own


whatever you wanna call it lah he made him feel good about himself, ya I guess but but if you say he is boosting him self esteem you are saying that he has low self esteem which is false he has self esteem he just want more


really you can talk about Kishan, where, I wanna talk about rachel


they did


I think they did, I think they did I'll


you know how I would describe rachel and gerald, I would ah okay how I would describe is err I would describe rachel and gerald as us, okay in an alternate universe where I never ask you out


if you know what I mean right is there's some I don't know how to describe it fully, right, ya , if if it just goes on you know cause cause there was some time when everyone even in secondary school when gerald and rachel everyone was like shipping shipping shipping but gerald gerald don't don't didn't do anything probably right


gerald even said that he liked rachel probably rachel felt the same way also but they just pretend and, they are us in the alternate universe, I damn good right, I damn good right I feel like I can I can I can !wah! !wah! cut down people


I mean like ya lah that's why I Chope you first what very long I Chope you already,


the the


I did that with #shi qi# also, remember I remember, I remember at at Makan place we sit down then I remember #shi qi# texted me uh ah <mandarin>我要去:wo yao qu</mandarin> I want to go to err toastmasters then I was like rebecca please come to toastmasters with me at that time I I I me and rebecca were kind of close and then rebecca went back home !alamak! why why you go home then then I was like denise where you then you came remember right you remember right ya


they did, I feel like the reason why I dated #shi qi# was because I was very desperate


ya looking back me and #shi qi# has no chemistry at all, no it's real


like like it's it's like it's like me and rebecca we don't have, they is is lesser than me and rebecca rebecca still have, ah jealous denise that that's legit jealous denise face


we dated effectively for one month, and that one I mean like like good relationship lah like one month and then out of that one month we, is is legit just mainly whatsapp


I mean like we did meet a lot, but there was nothing there, ya, desperate, I mean like you you can do stuff K doesn't mean


I don't think she's I don't think she's desperate but then, I don't think she know what she want


firstly she describe it as a scar, I think I feel like she did or like she she she she described it as a a, a past there is glorious but then she's hurt by it which mean which mean that she doesn't know what she want


because is it otherwise it wouldn't have left a bad impression, right that's why when I look at #shi qi# ya I feel like I feel like it's all good and sad but I don't feel like it's negative but #shi qi# view it as something that is negative


she described as a very good thing but she viewed as negative, she has issues she's crazy all girls are crazy


ya, I don't think so lah I think you know there are people who just like !wow! post post stuff like that just just to like Kishan also what you know just put out there then like people come give me sympathy or like oh give me attention even though they don't want they shy shy ah someone text me !aiya! don't know don't know what don't know what act blur but then actually they they they do want attention from that


I don't know lah I think, the thing, I cannot relate !wah! make me sound like I very cool like that but I don't think I can I can relate uh I think, putting people do post stuff, I don't think is targeted I really don't think is targeted eh


I think it's just like, at least from I think I know #shi qi# more than you know you and your friend she's my ex we dated, even though for like <mandarin>一个月:yi ge yue</mandarin> but we dated eh I don't think she she meant for it to be targeted but then again we broke up so it just means that I don't really know her that well I just go full circle and


cross myself out


I don't think she die die want us to see, but maybe she want to I don't think it's targeted !wah! this is meant for #yu xiang# this meant for denise, but it's more like, I feel like it's more for general public but then with a


you know with a, a bit of wishing


cheryl, okay let's talk about cheryl for one moment I hate cheryl, oh really, girls with chrom, I I don't like cheryl at all


cheryl is someone who is selfish cheryl is someone who, is ambitious but, also lazy kinda like me but worse


okay, then I don't know I don't know who else who else would, who I don't think I don't know who else okay firstly ah if if it's just a random person who asked that right then it's just they don't have like, any ill meaning lah


right, they just curious, I think they are just curious


K who who in the world as that kind of thing, and which of the friend follow you, so what you you you're saying that #shi qi# text her friend eh hello <mandarin>你可以你可以:ni ke yi ni ke yi</mandarin> uh I saw this specific tell on me by denise K can you like send a message for me like that ah


that is very fast far description far out it is like zero point zero five percent chance happening, ya correct my english is horrible


alright, you know you know cheryl, she never do her project work at all I don't like, I don't like everyone peer evaluation five five five five cheryl two


then I put three then I was like, you know why I put three cause I don't want the teacher like talk to me oh what did cheryl ah you know I just put three then everyone I put five, then write cheryl was present in the group project, but she did not contribute anything but asking what she should be doing for her own job she does not contribute anything to other people's uh part she does not contribute to the whole structure of our direction and she constantly complained


that's what I write, ya, ya and then it's not like like suddenly the teacher approach you if you don't know what to say then suddenly all your head right you gone already cause you very shy you like !huh! <mandarin>我没有了:wo mei you le</mandarin> okay cheryl <mandarin>还好:hai hao</mandarin> lah


then then you know what to say already


if if if you can type out you must you <mandarin>真的真的真的很讨厌那个人:zhen de zhen de zhen de hen tao yan na ge ren</mandarin> if you don't right if like a bit a bit right I kind of know cheryl for a long time so all my hatred like all my hatred or all my you know displease kinda you know get


get like [orh] that's just how she is like and then they kind of like you know it's not like !wah! I really really <mandarin>真的不可以:zhen de bu ke yi</mandarin> accept like that, that's why that's why I think lah I think that contribute ah you know is like oh I that's that going in I already have that expectation I was like please you know at the start of project work I was like please cheryl don't text me cheryl don't text me I go form my own group with like B eight people I have never met with already and then you know what happen that teacher gave out random group and then you know what random group !wah! it's like the god <mandarin>老天爷:lao tian ye</mandarin> boom then give me #yu xiang# cheryl I was like what at least even if random right it they should split like they should split split up what they shouldn't put like people who know each other they should put like people who don't know each other into a same group what right that will be more fair I don't know why did they put me and cheryl I was like [orh] I even formed my own group at the start I was like


and I start cheryl texted me at the start it was like that #yu xiang# do you want to uh join like uh do you want to make a group together I was like no no no no no I I didn't say no no after I have a group already but I didn't have a group then I go make a group, legit I legit make a group because cheryl wanted to be in a same group as me


and then like !wah! I think it's really fated ah cannot bad fate ah not good one I don't like, I am, year one I escaped from her year two I eh I not from her year three I'm the same class as her again


because I do my best to avoid her, I I I legit do my best to avoid her one, you know someone if you know year one you don't know lah right cause you just met each other and then okay lah learn from experience year two do your best to avoid year three do your best to avoid unless the teacher the the randomiser must put you guys same group then that one legit you prepare until a lot a lot also cannot one


ya cheryl is, cheryl is cheryl Kishan is Kishan


I don't know, ya his name is #yu xiang#


and then, !wah! this one best ah


I feel like, when it when it comes to project work right the people who are the passive one who try to do everything on their own are the worst kind of group project you can ever have like worst worst group project mate you can ever have, because


because, when when when I look for group project mate right the reason why I pick britney is because you know every single group project I don't care who else I work with britney must be the one person cause it the same structure throughout the same one britney will start first she will do every single thing and then I will say britney you did this wrong britney you did this wrong britney everything will be like okay I agree okay I don't I don't agree and then we will we will we will will legit like oh you are wrong you are wrong you are wrong but we are okay with it at the end of the day we will hate each other but we will still be okay with each other


that's why britney is a AD student and I'm a B plus student I mean like I I I not that bad lah but I I I still okay lah right my I never study for exam my GPA is high enough and and it's because my friend is britney


, I don't think I don't think I'll have gotten such a high GPA, if britney have never helped me


yes uh I don't think it will be possible at all, yes I think, I would if lah okay I somehow become valedictorian right I'll be I'll say like err the the the day that changed me the most was the first day of school where I hugged britney bag I slept because I didn't want to take part in any err small talk with the rest of the class because hugging britney bag to sleep has helped me form a really good relationship with the person who carry my GPA and allow me to stand on stage today that's what that's what I would say


cause britney britney is MVP, K I should cut this out and send it to her err her she's really good ah, there was there was one time where I legit never do anything for group project


though all my friend like give up on me one gave up on me then britney britney was no all my friend wanted me to do stuff britney was the only one who trust me to get things done nobody trust me it legit like, nobody trust you that you get things done even if you like to do do do once once people have a bad impression of you right even if you even if you perform they will still view you negatively


correct ya but britney was the one who looked at it objectively and trust that even even when I I did not perform britney trusted that I'll get things done, ya there was a period of time where I CSIG I have err ideas slam you know with daryl they all uh not daryl darren with darren they all and there was a period of time where I didn't do that there was year one and then year one people were kind of sizing each other up britney trusted me


pretty interested me, ya, ya but I also hate britney lah uh don't I don't think me and britney don't have chemistry, like other than work we don't have chemistry other than work


ya, you know why you can't understand that because I don't know I actually don't know why


I think, the the most important thing is at the start <mandarin>开始的时候:kai shi de shi hou</mandarin> you must really set you know the ground rule, you must this is this is how I do stuff, but you must you must you must do it lah, like I I always do thing last minute but it's not like my thing is bad quality my thing is very very high quality one what


ya I think, I don't know lah I mean it's kind of year two is really I remember the first time right the first project I didn't work with britney at all, then I I remember the first first semester off I I try to work with every single person as much person as possible lah cause life science don't have that much project one right I was like K I work with this person work this person then I sizing everyone up to see who can help me tank the project work I remember I work with rebecca then I work with cool girl jeanette and then I worked with err alicia the the cute girl but them all of them right like not there one not there one all of them very passive then I cannot cannot I cross out cross out everyone then I the only person that like at the end of the day is is britney that's why every single project onwards right I I I do with britney


nah, I feel like me and britney cannot lah, me and #reu ben#, I like I like working with #reu ben# the most out of anyone in #ngee ann# polytechnic I like working with #reu ben# the most, #reu ben# is someone who


err when when it comes to group projects right I'm the kind of person who like very opinionated #reu ben# is someone who's not opinionated but has strong opinion, hi this sound like some monsters write up <mandarin>废话:fei hua</mandarin> like that but but but #reu ben# #reu ben# is someone who


I don't know lah when when we work with #reu ben# #reu ben# I feel like I have the best chemistry when it comes out working with #reu ben#, he's he's the best


ya, #reu ben#, #reu ben#, #reu ben# is awesome


we talk about #shi qi#, britney


ya, so AI please do not take over the world err please spare us, err in in twenty years' time, please please still let there be human on earth


thank you very much, alright


hi, my name is Intan and this is weird


wait wait wait so kirakan like you land in Singapore and then after that they give you the mask or like err, later on like the when the government give like the government announced that they're going to give like they're gonna roll out like sets of masks to give uh you


okay well


well as you know lah [kan] I came back in January as in like I think by the time it was mid January there were already like


if I'm not mistaken there was already a case like especially I think around the twentieth to twenty sixth of January I think that was when the report uh Singapore reported their first case, but by that time we actually had we we we travelled quite a bit before like kita pergi Bangkok for like satu minggu holiday


like we didn't care so err after that when err Jan no actually when February rolled by we had a bigger trip


like you know the the threat of the virus is there but it's just not as severe yet so we thought like okay why not we we just go ahead


but err my my boyfriend was like the most Kiasu of like the there were three of us went together so basically my boyfriend was the most Kiasu and he was very irritating, and then is like he just insist ah right wearing the mask the entire time when like me and the other guy were like nah we are not going to wear a mask


err ya so we we as in like basically most of the time we went around Japan without wearing a mask and it was quite and also like you know Tokyo is near, Yokohama no is it is it near I mean like err there there are lots, of like I mean eventually the the cases are like kind of like like blew up in in Tokyo lah so


err we were lucky to have left before that, and then after that like err luckily we came back right before when err Singapore start imposing that fourteen, days stay at home thing like the quarantine at that time wasn't like stay at home so it's like you know they were like other LOs and LOAs and whatever


sorry so ya begitu lah but ya then after that it's like err , the aviation industry went to shit then basically like a lot of my friends are losing their job and then that like you know some of my friends came back


uh they took unpaid leave and then after that err I I I tanya dia orang lah like eh so what's the deal now are we are you getting fired or like are you staying on err what's the situation cause it's like, you know it's very uncertain then dorang cakap macam eh kau lucky sia kau you left at a very good time and then I'm like


ya but I didn't expect this to happen right but still you know it's very difficult for all of us so, but ya macam begitu ah and err like you I'm also looking for a job but getting there but the good thing is I'm studying, so I can balance I can juggle my life with err studies I can keep my time occupied eh and like you know just do my stuff


you do you remember that the viral video that fiasco the whole #Ateeqah Mazlan# punya benda that was super funny


cause it's like I know I know like she means well but it's like why do you need to go and call up siapa HDB is it or something is it HDB I can't remember


spread awareness of like the current regulations that are in place apa eh, uh like the current regulations that are in place related to home based business begitu


[kan] as in what do they say uh they said something about like err nak tutupkan err nak kacau periuk ah


dia macam kena dia tak kena pulau dia kena kecam dia kena kecam gila babi so funny


okay I mean I feel bad for laughing at her because I kind of know her lah but as in like the fact is that like stupid sia you should just just shut up, and like you know go and like promote other things instead of like trying to ruin other people's lives


no but the fact is that


no it's just terrible PR


okay I did not think that it was our good friend Hadi pasal si , oh my god stereotype sia


that's another unwanted


of course lah I mean like it it I mean he is an unsung hero I mean like during the whole like during COVID eh sorry during CB it's like people will stuck at home okay lepas tu diorang semua nak kena makan [kan], and then half the time like for me my family everybody stuck at home so my mum macam frus


then after that she was like err even at times at times we we I suggest lah okay I say nevermind lah mama stop cooking why don't you just like you know call, Grab food or something, and then ya then after that like ya was great so I guess if even until now also


it's still a kerja ah kerja tu kerja lah but like you know, they should be acknowledged as well I feel


ya, it's true like you know I as in I'm not sure if you watched the the National day segment I mean like I only watched it for like a few hours


I won't say personalities like they I mean they picked err they they featured some characters like you know everyday Singaporeans and everything


like I think one of them was about like uh a guy, who is disabled and he provides like free food to uh the needy lah basically and uh you know they they feature all these individuals but


if I'm not mistaken or maybe you know I did not watch the whole thing but they did not err feature, food deliverer uh like you know food delivery people riders, so I mean they they they they how to say they lauded like healthcare workers which they should but I guess there are more people out there who deserve


err like you know like for example they they do a they did a feature on like the NTUC uh cashiers and the people who who do the stock and replenish, the apa tu barang barang for the err how do you say the the items for the supermarket [kan]


that there was a there was a segment on that but I think there as in like maybe like, how how long is that show two hours is like dua jam I don't think you can like squeeze everything together lah


oh really


oh it wasn't cheap


(mmhmm) but I think that, I don't know as in like the I think that like like a lot of other industries is very temporary it's a very I won't say is not a long term job but it's a very


highly taxing job for example [kan] macam like in a family a a low income family of like for example dia punya anak dia err anak dia special needs kid


you know as in like to bridge the income gap between the low in I mean like the low income and the people who are earning more than them, and the fact is that a lot of people fall between, like the lines of they are how do you say this they are like not considered


people who are like who are eligible for like macam help because for whatever reasons they earn, more than like slightly more than the the particular like income ceiling for example and then after that like macam err


how do you say this I need to gather my thoughts cause it's like err very it's a very sensitive not not exactly very sensitive but it's like it's something that I put quite, a lot of thought in it but I just cannot encapsulate it in words so is like macam you know like when you when you read something and then you have thoughts


in your head then after that suddenly is like you when you come when you try to like say it out then it turns out like bullshit so ya


eh what,


but in order to in order to get,


but like no but as in like don't you have to don't you have to as in like that Grab takes a good load of commission like, cut from like for example if you earn hundred dollars right I if I'm not mistaken like Grab takes about


you were the one who digressed, don't blame me for that, not bad but you know what usually we talk for longer is like we'll sit there for hours talking about nothing


so is like ya I don't know and we talk about like a couple of different topics also sometimes so macam I guess, being recorded feels very strange


ya more seventy days seventy something days my friend


right school


so like school as usually I have to go back to school a few times a week right and then after that like, err the the the the whole thing about like the virus like spreading err like how do you say the community cases in in in Singapore started increasing


and then after that they started to implement like a lot of different measures and then it was very leceh pasal like you know because, there were at least macam twenty people in the class then after that like err we, err our like everytime we have to go and take temperature and then we have to stick that stupid sticker wherever on like you know our body or whatever and half the time it's like stuck


on my card holder and then after that is like you go to school and then that is like there's so much uncertainty, then like we all thinking lah like eh so how ah you think that next year ah no sorry next sem which is like in a month


we will do it at home or what because it's like a lot of other schools already are are are doing like home like, you know home based learning and then after that we were the only ones who are still not doing home based learning so macam kita very move very FOMO, so so


err we we were like somehow like quite happy that uh we managed to no no actually we received an email saying that okay we're going to test out like you know Zoom, then err then we we tested out the Zoom err interface then it of like sucked lah because it's like you know Zoom and then with all the security issues and everything


then err we had exams, and this was the very funny part so kita orang punya exams we kita ada dua exam like, for for one research module and another one eh apa eh, what is that module I took I forgot oh uh it's a wellbeing module so basically right in an actual exam is like a set format and then after that in like


we were revising and basically we were revising based on err what the exam usually entails lah macam like, like like ada MCQ ada open ended and stuff like that and you based on like going to school and sitting for the exams then COVID happened


so basically we were stuck at home so err like the school has to think about something, err so that time nak like in the end we for the first time in my life actually I did an online exam can you imagine back in when I was working ah, for like all those four years I never had an online exam before so ya very interesting so we we we sat at home


and then we we did our exam pass everything then after that we continued the new semester and this time was like online


it's open book as line like they know okay wait there's this one let me like, uh there was one there was one module there was one module where they say it was closed book tapi kita orang macam like, eh get real lah kau ingat apa kita orang tak akan you know go on Whatsapp lepas tu kita text eh kau tahu tak what's this what's the answer for this but in


so it's like basically we were err there are there are like three different kinds of exam so macam like open task, so this open task err is like


a forty eight hour it opens like uh forty eight hour window so from like for example right now is one thirty right, and then err it opens at one thirty then after that is like you you do you can do the the exam at anytime and then after that it's like err by one thirty AM on


let me see Saturday it will close and then there's another one where it's time, so macam like we get on we we all got go online lepas tu we all sit down together


well nothing because okay for that macam the time exam [kan] the time exam is like you cannot hire anyone to do it for you, because number one where in the world are you gonna find someone to do that time exam for you and number two I think you are more, you are more focused on looking for the answers then go and find someone to do the exam for you come on lah


okay


maybe people do that maybe people do that but, for me ah I personally I rather do myself ah because I know I can do it, so it's like it's the thing where I mean like ada forty eight hours exam that I had recently it was like


it was basically an assignment so was like like three assignments put together and then it was like based on ten marks like ten marks each can you imagine it's a PR assignment so basically I had to do err, PR stuff !hais! like I prepared FAQ questions prepare prepare press release and also a speech


and I have to do that all and all of them are ten ten marks only then I was like, usually it's twenty five marks and I spend like more than two days doing one assignment then after that like this exam you have to sit down and do this shit for forty eight hours I cannot


deal but I finished it in like less, I did I did it was fine


well you know do you know, well you know why I went back to school anyways is not because I want I mean isn't that at some point in my life I want to lah as in like you know when I left, when I left err when I graduated from poly I did go to school after that but obviously after like what how many years


eh thirteen thirteen ya after thirteen years of like education straight and I wasn't exactly doing very well in school also cause I was so fucking playful ah sorry, I was so damn playful and then like and then


and then after that it's like I can't I don't think I could have like continued my studies then so I went out to work lah, I enjoyed my life met so many many different people habis lepas tu like now err bila I'm like more settled a little in life sort of


I decided to go back to school to get that degree and oh my god the characters I have to deal with, is like is like, there have


I do not no I really


(mmhmm) , (ugh) I'm doing a media and communications course so definitely there is project I mean like whatever that I'm doing now is no different than what I was doing


eight years ago holy shit it was eight years ago ya eight years ago when I was in poly except that during poly it was a more intensive, like not intensive like what we learned there was extensive lah I really enjoyed my poly life even though I kind of like played around a lot, but like for for uni it's a bit more difficult especially now pasal like err how to say this like I'm much older than I was obviously


and that like my dad told me that you know don't don't, don't mess it up lah you mess it up once and then after that is like if you mess it up again I don't know what to say about you, and also the fact that I have a support from my boyfriend obviously and that he is very intent on seeing me get the err that that degree


and so it kind of like motivates me a little and it helps that that because it's like I am more focus I guess I mean like you know like kids right, I totally get it lah okay like my my classmates ah my my my friends are all like twenty twenty one years old and then there's this girl


dia pandai tahu dia pandai she graduated from mass comm eh no she graduated from advertising, distracted tak tak boleh tahan so I had a project before just like macam like maybe two weeks ago ya so dia sibuk dengan dia punya boyfriend punya birthday


so nak kena betul betul nak kena duduk and then discuss lepas tu nak kena tulis apa apa in a powerpoint, presentation nak kena prepare pasal kita orang ada presentation and then after that we have to write a report also


the report was about one thousand five hundred words and we have to write it together can you imagine, two people writing the same report is a mess and a fact is is that kita kena buat like a very intensive research initially and then after that is like after that it's like more of like a solution finding kind of thing


so because I know what she's capable of and she's so distracted and besides I have nothing better to do in my life [kan], so basically we had like a google docs where we had a dumping ground of like macam kita orang punya information and everything


and then the only thing she needs to do is to just write the bottom part of the the the essay the report itu pun dia tak boleh buat , and


gifts for him bagai can you imagine twenty three birthday presents


tell me about it the fact that she can afford twenty three birthday presents and they are of varying price tags really intrigued me, because is like even though when I was working tak ada chance my boyfriend has ever going to get X number of presents however old he is from me


eh


I really I really salute them for that because I cannot do that


I, no man I like my sleep I enjoy my sleep and you know sometimes okay lah I I don't think my my err my lecturer's gonna hear this I'm just going to say it like you know because we are on


kita log-on like at 9 o'clock, in the morning and then after that you are on I'm still on my bed and then I'll be like listening to a lecture, and then it's like this particular lecture uh eleven uh sorry in on Monday mornings is just a drag cause it's like she constantly wants


us to participate know like you know breakout groups you know that kind of thing and leceh gila then I was like err, it's it's kind of like the same routine


so basically I know from nine to nine thirty at least I can get like an extra shut eye then nine thirty she will break us into one group which means that I have to turn on my mic and talk, still in my bed and then after that like when they are discussing then after that you know I'll try to make an effort to get off my bed and then after that duduk dekat atas meja lah and do my work


and then !huh!, shut up ya anyway so I mean like I'll get up to do my work and then after that it's like by the time err by the time it's, ten o'clock ten thirty I will be like more refreshed to actually you know participate in the class ya so apparently I'm not the only one who does that lah so sometimes like and I I I mean like I am


for some reason like that class I made a lot of friends and we don't see each other on err in real life you know we haven't seen I haven't haven't see my classmates most of them this, this semester so I macam like to be able to connect with them in a level err I mean like online everything is very cool, actually this sounds like internet the internet games we used to play as children


, that


yes it is a word I think, I'm the complete opposite of you like I really enjoyed circuit breaker time it's like


ya you spend more money on that shit then you sit at home and the snacks is there so I sit at home , yes, well no as in like the fact is that you know during the whole circuit breaker time I only ordered in food


four times ya but basically, ya


for free eh (uh huh)


, as in this particular Food Panda thing dia punya promo [jer] daripada dulu ke baru sekarang baru saja as in like err


no because, no no no like like periodically right periodically err Grab host like have this like err promo like not promo ya promotions where they offer a monthly subscription of like


six dollars or something and then oh no sorry the most recent one I think was thirty dollars and then you have like an offset of like, uh the four dollars delivery charge for four dollars off delivery charge or something so during the circuit breaker right, none of this shit was like available because obviously people a lot of people are gonna stay home right and they're gonna order food so err ya


and then err so isn't like basically is this was this uh service available on err Foodpanda even like during the circuit breaker, of course lah because now everybody can go out already what


ya true but people cook , yup my boyfriend gets to stay at home for the next four months, ya no know you know Nurul is err Nurul has been working her butt off all through circuit breaker until now


if Russia if Russia produced I mean if that vaccine claim by Russia is proven effective then maybe we have, we wait wait shorter lah there goes my Korea trip at the end of the year


we will see whether it works or not but ya like I said let me reiterate this point I said that I'm going to misses I'm gonna have to cancel my trip at the end of the year


how many vacations did you go on this year , , I went three times okay minus the fact that I came back from Doha


ya but February we are still gooing out to Japan and then after that is like, ya, I think we went to oh ya we went we went to JB once in March


no no no no I can't remember when err no it wasn't it was before way before like the part, I think it was one week before Singapore said that whoever who left overseas have to go undergo like quarantine or whatever


Fernando


I know but he she he was so antsy to leave the house like whatever it takes


I swear to god but whatever is it up I think it's up, okay three more minutes of talking shit


wait


you are not young anymore you know this is not like ten years ago, this is not ten years ago already okay hello I remembered when we were it was ten years ago we we used to sit, like for hours doing nothing and doing crap on on internet


ya oh shut up


ya I'm I'm going for a class that I'm paying for so thank you very much and it's my holidays now so I'm chilling


whatever


thumbs up, I don't have a loan I didn't take a loan


I'm gonna get mine like next year and I still don't have a loan , !huh! how how how many years have you been working already


how many years have you been working, I won I won


I don't I don't know how many, , no tak payah lah just stop [jer]


I don't know (ugh) I I don't have access to the the Whatsapp right now <malay>kejap</malay> [eh]


okay I think we're recording, err so my name is Umar and my conversation partner today is


so, so ini hari we will be talking about corona virus, err in Singapore and how so far kita kat sini at home and uh my family semua how we've been coping


how the family my family my mum and dad and my siblings and how I've been interacting dengan all my friends lah basically


so okay obviously okay I start eh so basically


corona virus thing err dulu back then I was somewhat employed lah, then after that when we heard about this corona virus issue actually I was in Jakarta err celebrating Chinese new year lah


people over there were quite err rilek they didn't care too much about it and it seemed that


err maybe it won't be as such a big issue lah tapi after that when I came back , I was given a couple of mask tapi I thought like okay lah not really necessary but err eventually it turns out that


the the the hype so called or the whole issue err it it went up and then


uh because she's a bit paranoid more than usual so she decided to buy us only macam ten masks or so something like this


not so safe lah and then err so I flew back I still wear the mask uh at first I thought macam too much ah actually macam maybe


it was a paranoia or something but when I came back to Singapore and then I slowly see Singapore move to orange alert and then the whole of Singapore they were taking it very seriously, and uh at first I was going to work and slowly you see more and more people


mask ada quite a number of people they were wearing it lah and then they decided to


eventually err make an announcement on TV and said that dia punya mask ini semua actually not mandatory lah at first then cakap only kalau macam you sick err you stay at home, err just jaga yourself lah there's no need to go out and then slowly they start to quarantine and then slowly start to close the border and then


slowly fall into the whole circuit breaker thing but in between there's a lot of doubt banyak orang orang macam didn't quite understand why we had to do certain things why the government asked to do certain things, maybe err eventually it escalated to that level where it became a global pandemic lah habis Malaysia orang Malaysia affected orang Indonesia affected


at first Singapore was the first I remember we were actually the first ranked to macam got on the list lah


we were eventually taken over by okay eh at first it was China lah and then second it was Singapore, at first ah this is the global ranking towards it got worse in certain countries uh in Italy


err in Euro and then slowly got to America and now sekarang [kan] kita in a state where , US is the highest lah so Singapore although we had our ups and downs but it looks like we are getting better


err but that's how I remembered my experience when it first started err and how at that point of time I was, employed habis sekarang macam like looking for job because uh, let's put it like I wasn't employed anymore err after this whole situation so now looking for job lah


how about your experience macam mana you were coping with it


okay to be fair I don't think siapa siapa anyone lah was expecting this kind of situation to just suddenly appear, and I think a lot of businesses were impacted banyak even home based business at some point was err affected [kan]


uh that was quite bad like the whole malay community like more or less macam slammed her


some authority figure ah


you know, , I'm just okay


ya she more or less got a big , kena pulau rabak rabak lah basically because of her statement she even


ya and, I think, sometimes it's not about being right sometimes it's about being kind you know yes sure your intention is good macam nak tolong all these regulation issue ah


after she did it and of course nak return balik dia punya statement susah [kan] but at least macam just go out there and just apologize properly, and say that uh you sorry you didn't intend for this to happen err, at least apologize even though you're right even if you think you're right even if you are right just apologize let's say err I understand


ridiculous thing that happened during this whole COVID situation that err gone viral for no reason,


and err some of them are funny macam the recent one where the Foodpanda rider just waving around, Hadi dresses exactly the same as that guy


so ya no no okay exactly okay so when I see Hadi [kan], last time when he was riding panda Foodpanda he just stop by my place once in a while for smoke or something


like the first time I saw it macam this could be Hadi, it could really have been Hadi the way they dress dia punya seluar dengan dia punya helmet dia punya visor, that's why I tagged him and a lot of people thought that I was insinuating that that was him


so that was quite funny ah but I saw the article lah I think Mothership covered this article about him, uh unmarried guy twenty four year old guy but uh I think a lot of people macam does really, macam it's an unsung hero kind of thing so people were quite uh positive feedback ah about the guy dia super extra ah


okay my input is okay first of all


the thing about that whole situation is it's not about him per se but what he symbolizes [kan], because if you think about it just the fact that during this whole uh circuit breaker period and the contributions they did


and while it's widely recognised by society singaporeans at large tapi macam it's not something officially recognized by the government, so it's a good analogy to say macam this guy this Mat just naik motor habis just riding and


he is not part of the actual celebration of they are not actually celebrating him it's just that dia macam very extra so he just happen to be there and he just, err actually it is it is the symbol you know it it's not just the fact that it's Foodpanda but it's also the fact that, err the unsung heroes has to unofficially be there to be recognized


well I have this opinion about uh all these food delivery ah so to my understanding ah, err the first tak salah Deliveroo was to start all this tapi in Singapore I don't know whether is Uber X or Grab or something lah, but what I really feel about food delivery is dia macam quite the game changer okay just think about this for a second ah about Grab drivers err not Grab drivers


but err food delivery eh so I feel that it is a way to bridge the income gap from the lower income to the higher income and here is why okay first of all , people who are do food delivery all this kalau they really macam really work hard macam Chiong all the way ah macam maybe eight hours Chiong all the way macam Hadi for example [kan]


hours or dia punya right timing ah because all these riders [kan] macam dorang [dah] experience for a very long time they will know a certain technique or certain tactic


how to do it right kedai mana , prepare food quickly kedai mana prepare food very slow they know how to play the game lah basically so if you think about it they can potentially earn a white collar salary, and they are blue err blue collar workers [kan] so think about this for a second eh to be a food delivery rider and all these you don't need qualification you don't need to go for an interview


you don't need to like basically if you apply [kan] most likely you will accept, and you don't need a qualification it doesn't matter whether you N level you're O level you're A level you're university degree masters doesn't matter, you still get treated the same the way that you do things it all depends on your effort


and how skillful you are and how you deliver and how you strategize macam your delivery ah, so I thought it's really good if you think about it is a way for uh the lower income group to catch up, to the upper income group because macam especially during circuit breaker period a lot of people and the delivery price isn't very cheap also


so every delivery macam ya macam every delivery is about ala carte you pay about four dollars uh or something ah per delivery so, chances are and even there's rich people macam err beli kopi just one and then they they get the person to deliver and they they they they they


the chances are a lot of this food delivery a lot of richer people higher income people, they will will be doing this deliveries and then they will passing on the money to the lower income who is most likely doing it [kan] so if you think about it, it's a way for the blue collar workers to get a white collar err job salary and it will help bridge the income


also if you think about this one thing I like about err food delivery also it requires no interview no experience, no much prerequisite lah maybe if you macam nak deliver naik motor [kan] then, ah kena pakai lesen you have to prove your lesen lah but if you are walking or you are riding a bicycle you don't need to


then think about this so I saw an interview err macam documentary lah don't know on Grab and how err some of the handicap people, they managed to get jobs in Grab macam dulu when they before Grab [kan] macam there's almost very little or no job they can do at all


so maybe some of them they did say macam if you are in a wheelchair maybe you can do admin job yes tapi ada orang macam down syndrome for example they can't really do much and


and she earns only about thirty six dollars a day lah for example on her electric err wheelchair and stuff like that delivering food and because


of how slow the electric chair also you you can't expect to deliver lah maybe satu hari deliver four or five items lah for example, but the fact that she can make that small amount of money no matter how small it is ah okay and maybe people might tip her or something I don't know, but the fact is you can it it it can it lets you stand on your own two feet lah


so macam berdikari lah so instead of, relying on people or even when you can't get a job at all maybe you have some sort of special needs or special syndrome food delivery, the interface macam the training everything it allows you to do such a simple


err it it simplifies the task basically pergi sendiri pick up pergi sana drop off so it it it gives this, people hope because there's no need for interview imagine if she is looking to err, admin position or something macam kena interview tak tahu pass ke tak err your experience whatsoever like a normal job


you know you need to interview but food delivery it doesn't matter whether you have a masters degree you have O level or you are in a wheelchair, you will get it you will get it most likely you will get it unless macam kalau too saturated or something lah there's too much driver around so I thought that was quite interesting as well


the way that the food delivery has changed the landscape of earnings and how uh blue collar workers can potentially earn white collar workers punya salary, so


ya you need to write sheet down together your thoughts but anyway with regards to that uh there are some people who are like that as well, and I guess the good thing about this panda thing is it's quite an indiscrimination kind of, err err employment


you you don't get err you don't get denied err okay selalunya the idea is when you do the employment [kan] err you cannot be judged based on your I don't know err race or


your gender stuff like that but in this case also it it it it doesn't discriminate your education level as well, which is something that has a high emphasis lah in singapore so whether you are uh as mentioned before whether you are, err low educated or highly educated you still earn the same it depends on how much work was actually done and when you think about it is it something like


because of so much flexibility in your timing you get to decide [kan], so macam for example delivery if you want to work you turn it on and then you work when you're done you're done, so the last time there is so much flexibility in this kind of work is a taxi driver so taxi driver I assure you should know my dad is a taxi driver [kan]


so err nak kerja kerja tak nak kerja sudah so when you're tired you get home, so basically the only commitment you need is you go out and then you grab err you pick up passenger and then that commitment is between, your err err picking up the passenger to dropping them off but


here's the thing right so with taxi the commitment is you have to pay for rental hundred dollars a day so, so for this drivers they have to actually make sure they earn at least hundred dollars after they earn the hundred dollars whatever they earn is theirs


so that so called keep them motivated lah whereas macam delivery for motorbike delivery for example bicycle delivery you're not tied down, meaning to say actually let's say you, chose a bicycle and you really err let's say you already have a bicycle lah let's say you choose a bicycle and you want to do this delivery


whatever you deliver whatever food panda give you that is exactly what you get in your pocket is much easier to calculate, and you don't have that burden of oh hari ini kena buat sepuluh delivery for example no you earn how much you get that's yours


so it it simplifies a little bit


ah yes okay definitely lah so basically macam you go to the shop and then the food costs ten dollars err what you get, is basically is through the app punya interface ah so as if the app interface says you earn seven dollars that seven dollars is yours lah


it's it's already a net amount dorang already cut off whatever that needs to be cut off err because sometimes, for example whatever the food is dorang [dah] minus the food amount so err this delivery apps they alreally take a bit of your card


so you can calculate very easily rather than having to go through the process and it cuts down the stress basically if you decided


and then you already made two deliveries you want to go home you can go home you don't have that stress of, oh tak !ee! I still got to go on I need to hit ten deliveries today or uh I cannot pay my rental or whatsoever so, it has that sort of it extended flexibility ah and I don't think a lot of Singaporeans see it this way lah it's just something I just thought about recently


and how it is a good way for people macam let's say they have spare time ah macam let's say they work nine to five


maybe err do a three hour trip err three hour or four hour or five six trips, then go home lah so you have that extra income cash it go straight to your bank account, uh as opposed to waiting at the end of the month that kind of thing you know it's instant so it it it is something that a lot of


the there's a lot of factors why it is such uh active kind of employment especially for the lower income uh people to help a bridge to the higher income people, err ya so we were supposed to talk about corona virus tapi sekarang [dah] starting so much on delivery


well it's not like we have a focus so it's okay, , okay I think we will stop for about half an hour so, what


okay


err it does, so during the circuit breaker period of [pe] was it two months, I think it was two months, so how how were you coping what were you doing did you


actually even go out at all did you do a lot of food delivery err did you meet anyone or


oh okay nevermind


but won't they make you have the camera turn on


okay another question what is stopping you from hiring someone to do the exam for you, what sort of err security feature or identification yang dorang implement,


no lah if you have forty eight hours and you know what exam it is you can prep what you don't have to get it within the forty eight hours


you can prep earlier on and say eh I'm doing this err exam err next week, err I pay you two hundred dollars lah just come to my house you sit in front and then you do for me okay [pe]


man I don't think I can I don't think I can go back to school already macam kirim salam ah, seriously, I mean who you would you get to the level where you think you are at the not say pinnacle lah but you think that you are macam everything [dah] okay


and you you think that you you can survive on that level of education project kerja just to survive on the salary from that job, but I kudos to you lah memang is not easy to go back to school when I if you ask me to do it now I would probably won't don't it


right well characters is something inevitable, or Facebook ada politics [pe] sekolah pun ada politics [pe] but one thing I okay so just to do a very very, brief shallow comparison between school and work I would say that


in school walaupun you don't have to go everyday and you can plan your timetable whatever belajar but apparently you always have this


I think also it depends on school as well ah because when I was in uni uh a lot of people who went to SIM like me [kan] they err


two major popular universities that they went to is either RMIT or eh UOL so UOL macam sekolah so basically you study throughout the whole year, towards at the end of the year one big major exam, whereas for RMIT the one that I went to basically err buat project


err it it it becomes like what uh eighty percent of your grade then twenty percent kat belakang exam, so in a way you can balance oh out you can you know work together and you know maybe you are not the most academically inclined, so that contributes to maybe twenty percent tapi kalau you have macam ada solid group you can work with


and it can help make you up it it's a little bit a balance of both but err, I don't know maybe your school is not like that maybe your school is exam based or but I am sure yours ada project [kan]


sometimes err if you want things you've got to do it yourself you want to get things done


there is more to life than giving your girlfriend or girlfriend twenty three gifts my goodness save save the money


anyway you are broke so anyway I think the difference between your classmate and you is that you have been at least out in the working world, err for a couple of years you actually understand and appreciate what err higher academia can bring compared


to your peers err in school at the moment [kan] even for myself [kan] if you ask me to go to school now and I were to go to school and if I really want it, I think I would be able to have that kind of motivation because you know what it where where it can bring you