the place has been under construction so I never really get to see it, ya sad right, oh


but science it doesn't, [orh] bond ah


wait what scholarship were you offered, , #lu ying#, I thought it was the new york school that offered you a scholarship


oh my gosh, you are too much of an overachiever, oh, you know val she was offered, a scholarship from MICA also


MICA MICA, , ya but it wasn't to cover everything so she eventually went to NTU lor


I think so too but of course it's very happening lah


, , !wah! too much


it's too much, no lah I think it's cause it's cause we are international students also that's why


ya that's why, it's like that lah, ya is more , like flourishing


for arts right, ya


(ugh)


ya but if you take business you should really be going to SMU, , I don't know, ya


I don't know, I'm not in, and I'm not like tuned in to what's good where I just know that SMU is very strong in business, that's it, ya vicky's also in SMU roshan also


ya ya ya miss miss miss what ah, pageant queen ah ya ya ya


no for real though, she is she's damn pretty like, I used to tell her right that she like legit won the genetic lottery


no <mandarin>她的眼睛又大脸又小:ta de yan jing you da lian you xiao</mandarin> you know, she's she's pretty, ya, am I wrong tell me I'm wrong, yes lah yes ya


, (ugh) okay, okay lor,


okay anyway moving on, so sorry I think you were saying something were you saying something, oh ya, ya you were saying about how if you actually could choose you will stay in singapore


, ya lah ya lah I think you should also lah, like I think it'll be an experience, sometimes I regret not going overseas


ya, ya, from, ya but it's also not a full scholarship


cause I'm not that great, no no no no no japan, ya, I applied for, global liberal arts


and it's a joint , a joint degree with, err ANU, so half of my degree will be in japan and half of my degree would be in


australia, and <mandarin>然后:ran hou</mandarin> ANU <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> standing <mandarin>不错:bu cuo</mandarin> mah so I just apply, ya then I got the scholarship but, and they


gave it to me but I was like it's not the full one which means it will still be real expensive so I just went, to a local U, I forgot if it was fifty or seventy five


no like percent, of, of my full like, ya ya but it's not enough, it's a lot but it's not enough, because I'm paying for my own school fees eh


no I took a loan babes, , no she's gonna, pay my loan and then I'm gonna pay her back


does that make sense, , !aiyo! so sad though, but even even if I wasn't paying for my


own education I wouldn't have gone I feel bad leh, about spending my mum's money, on


no <mandarin>我知道:wo zhi dao</mandarin> but because ours is single income what, plus right she wants to retire early my mum


I don't wanna like I don't want to be her push back her retirement for me you get what I mean, ya, so like is fine lah it's not that I I I don't want to go to a local U also


not disappointed just like a, like I could have, but I chose not to, ya, okay lah but I'm happy with my choice lah I think I'm I made the best choice


like for both for my situation and like for my education, and it's like, ya it's like very troublesome also right half of like okay you know for you all right once your search


right you know the place you know how to search you know like, what kind of location you need, but for me is if I had taken it right it would have been half like, like I


I, half in one place and the other half in another place, and then I'm like not, really fully there at either place, so, you know, it's like


ya lah ya lah, because he's half half what, so no if I had taken it right is two years in japan two years in australia


it's cool but it's like, it's very like not grounded, ya and like, you finally sat down roots in one place you find your friends you find like, things you you set up a routine and then you have to break the routine and go to a whole different place you get what I mean so it's like you're not really fully there in either place


, I don't know, I I I don't know, yes lah and study ah


I'm okay lor, then


that's why I chose NUS, cause it's the most stable option, it's least is the least like troublesome lah I feel, it comes with, the fewest the smallest set of problems


, ya so why would you, like total my whole education


, oh that's okay, that's that's actually okay no if we if you think about it right not that the two years thing but when you think about it a degree for forty two thousand pounds, and it's overseas


you get what I mean, ya I also never <mandarin>算我的:suan wo de</mandarin> living fees in singapore


for the house same what, and, ya lah, but you get the


(mmhmm), !huh!


oh that's harsh, what they don't cover for you at all ah they don't provide you with resources meh


hello <mandarin>你好:ni hao</mandarin> eh how's your day #yan ru#,


(oo) what interview


(uh huh), !wah! Shiok eh


oh okay okay, !wah! Bojio,


(uh huh), , okay


five hundred episodes are you serious <mandarin>那么多:na me duo</mandarin> ah !huh!


, kays, okay


!huh! <mandarin>什么:shen me</mandarin> internship <mandarin>你有新的:ni you xin de</mandarin> ah, [orh], !wah! <mandarin>那么快:na me kuai</mandarin> ah


, kay


what's this info session about,


!wah!, today damn shag actually the entire week damn shag like <mandarin>每天都是:mei tian dou shi</mandarin> OT, or ya lor ya lor


what did I do today ah, I don't know I just felt very busy is either like meetings or I need to, rush to do work so like just now I was very very busy like doing some design work so I was just like, err cause I uh I'm doing social media right then like I need to come up with like ideas for like the september social media calendar


and then after that need to design like, some of the post lah and then I mean I do love designing but then like I don't have the, the best design I I guess like sometimes like it just takes me very very long to do design like it's just


I guess not my forte lor like I like to do it but it takes me super long <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> like , damn damn Sian and then like when I, then when my supervisor ask me so have you like finished it then I'm like oh no I only do like one out of the five visual then she's like !huh!


that's like unacceptable like why you take so long then I'm like I know I'm so sorry then I'm like uh , I feel so bad so I was like


then, ya lor I suppose to continue I suppose to continue work after this one so, I really damn tired and my back right like is aching but I don't know is it like uh aching because of like cause I went rock climbing yesterday


so I don't know is it aching cause of rock climbing or is it because like I just sit at my like computer for too long, !wah! really damn pain, shag life lor shag working life ah ya , !hais!


but but then mine not really full time leh <mandarin>我的是那个:wo de shi na ge</mandarin> traineeship you know, so like even though I'm considered like a full time, it's not


I don't know how to explain it ya it's just, but they they don't treat us like as if we are like a trainee you know like, we are treated like a full timer but you see it is very contradicting like I got a lot of like uh pent up frustration over my colleague by my my higher ups


but like basically, like they they love to micromanage us and it's quite a bad !hais!, and then they they keep saying that oh we don't want to micromanage you and everything but then like literally everything must remind us and treat us like kids then I'm like ah fuck it oh shit sorry


sorry


it's like slightly lower than industry full time pay, !hais! but just have to suck it up lor but it's a quite a big significant pay cut from my previous job


ya ya nas daily, I got tell you before my I don't even I don't even think I told you my pays for for the both, topics, both both in ya whatever lah, next time sure sure


eh, why eh why do you think err he will get it eh


!huh!, full time ah, !huh!


#shi lin#


she, jasine <mandarin>那那时候她:na na shi hou ta</mandarin> intern <mandarin>在:zai</mandarin> DBS <mandarin>也是没有那么高:ye shi mei you na me gao</mandarin> leh


Paiseh lah, !aiya! <mandarin>不用紧:bu yong jin</mandarin> lah <mandarin>不用紧:bu yong jin</mandarin> lah, !hannor!


(ppc) okay lah hopefully he'll get in [orh] you know , !aiya! hopefully you will also get lah then you all can work together lor, why <mandarin>为什么那么:wei shen me na me</mandarin> Sian eh


ah, !wah! Siao Liao, how to Paktor like that


ha ha ha , !huh!


ah


ah, (mmhmm)


ya ya ya err exchange right, ah


!aiyo!, !huh!, !wah!


, , (mmhmm), !wah! !huh!


!wah!, !huh!


, !aiyo!


what the, !huh! <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> office <mandarin>有可以冲凉的:you ke yi chong liang de</mandarin> ah


, okay random


!wah!, !wah! role reversal indeed, okay okay interesting


, err, what did I tell you about him ah, I got say that meh I got say I very happy ah


, , okay lah


is it bliss, [orh] okay lah I mean I'm quite happy right now , we are like exclusively dating I guess, err, we see each other quite often actually like, cause, so like I've I haven't I haven't told you anything about him at all right


okay okay, but that's it right like I never say like where where is he from that kind of thing lah, !wah! okay lor I just give you some context so like with some background he is like twenty five this year


then he's actually in NTU business one like accounting, , but, he, he's, now he's like taking a break off school for like a year, and then he actually has like his family business like his family does like F&B so his family has like


err a few like hotpot restaurants and then like a few like hawker stalls, ya and it's like so it's, it's quite like you would think like maybe people who do like err hawker like not like a lot of money one right but I think he's quite well to do cause like he has a few outlets you know and like


has a central kitchen and everything and all so, I think he's quite <mandarin>有很:you hen</mandarin> not <mandarin>不是很有钱:bu shi hen you qian</mandarin> lah <mandarin>可是:ke shi</mandarin> comfortable lah you know you know you know what I mean, so ya then, err, so ya then he has so so he plans to take over his family business lah like err


so now he is like learning the ropes from his dad uh and then like, like learning the management of everything


err, every alternate day he would like go to Bedok and check like check out the stall, and then he will so he also knows, he's also learning how to like cook and everything ah so uh so that he knows how to uh run the store if like anything


like you know at least like if you know how the ground works right then it's better to manage from there cause you will know like oh what's wrong and what's what's what's correct right, ya so, funny story he wanted to take six months LOA right but then after that uh because of some like


orientation incident like err <mandarin>一年前:yi nian qian</mandarin> then like you know remember about the scandal and everything, so like, no no no it's just like you know the orientation scandals so like, so like then they they cut down on all the orientations and like anything that is like inappropriate just by a little then like it'll be under scrutiny


so apparently like, they were under scrutiny because like they made the freshies like err take off their shirts and then do some forfeit or something I mean it seems very err like, not a very big deal but then like, they were already told not to do so and like he was like I think the chief group leader so he allowed it to happen he didn't stop it so basically he somewhat allowed it to happen and like


err when they were investigated they they didn't say the truth, I think so like basically you got one year suspension, , ya so at first he wanted to take he already took like six months LOA but then after that he got the suspension then I was just like !wah!


no no no err <mandarin>总共是一年:zong gong shi yi nian</mandarin> lor <mandarin>所以他没有拿那个:suo yi ta mei you na na ge</mandarin> LOA Liao so it's like, one year off school lor, so funny lah


but then means if, in uh this like this semester so that means


twenty twenty two then he can graduate twenty twenty two ya then he can graduate !wah!, that's damn long eh, !huh! so long


holy shit, [orh] <mandarin>因为他:yin wei ta</mandarin> uh sec five, then <mandarin>去:qu</mandarin> poly, ya lor


is it wrong, derek <mandarin>如果:ru guo</mandarin> err


ya, ah ya lor ya lor, ya


why leh <mandarin>为什么他他们:wei shen me ta ta men</mandarin> stress, [orh] <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor, (mmhmm)


(mmhmm)


!wah! I mean, I think normal lor it's just, they just need to get used to their lifestyle, just shag lor


(ppc), so sad


!wow!,


(ppc), !wah!, !hais!, !aiya! everybody also now, also in a terrible say lah hor,


!huh! <mandarin>什么:shen me</mandarin> as in, but, !huh! I never see the floor plan how you how you see the floor plan one, !huh!, shirlene


[orh] SMU okay, [orh], ya !walao! they BTO #toa payoh# leh of course expensive lah


financial planning ah, ah <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> [orh] <mandarin>三十五楼那么高:san shi wu lou na me gao</mandarin> sia !wah! Shiok leh


!wah!,


ya, oh really, !huh! <mandarin>他们换:ta men huan</mandarin> !huh!


okay, so I repeat again


ya, okay, you divide by twelve


[orh] then you divide by two [orh] eight hundred [orh] okay that's pretty reasonable, oh


ya okay okay I think considering how much their salaries are I think, ya lah but, true true true


nice okay okay okay, ha, I didn't know that but !wah!, I feel like this, like all these adult things right like I haven't even like, got myself into it yet I still feel like


I did, why why would you take another one


okay


(mmhmm),


oh ya ya I remember that, damn shag, but at least he got it afterall you know


kays (mmhmm), he's singaporean he's singaporean, I I'm PR lah but I want to convert in singaporean but , citizenship <mandarin>怎么办:zen me ban</mandarin>


ya why eh can eh


I need to go and talk to HR about it, ya cause, I don't know eh I this one I not too sure yet that's why I really need to talk to HR and ask them like


err, what what is it about, maybe maybe imagine if I say, oh then if I have to quit because I I I cannot be a full timer then then they they convert me to full time then haha Shiok


but , !aiya! I also don't know eh ah, like <mandarin>我要留在这个公司真的很惨:wo yao liu zai zhe ge gong si zhen de hen can</mandarin> eh like, everyday OT, like really no go that kind like


right I very scared, err have lor a bit of marketing oh but but I remember got like backup plan so like


uh but I don't want I hope I don't like, have to use this, tactic lah but basically like err I told I told the guy about my dilemma lah and then after he was like, he was like eh you know like if you really need like a full time job like like you know just as like a cover up to the government right like


he he say he can like, err put my name under his company cause like they technically also need you know cause got the, the quota for like their work pass as in, cause they wanna hire like more


I guess like foreigners cause like you know not a lot of people would want to work as a full time like waitress that or like waiter or like chefs ah you know those kind and those are mostly like, hired to like foreign talent, and like they have like the like


these companies all all the companies in singapore need a quota what like, what one is it, one singaporean [orh] no no, I know got one is to six or something one there's a ratio one like, with every one singaporean or like PR that you hire you can hire a few more


so, uh haha


no lah <mandarin>不会:bu hui</mandarin> lah I think it's just like for show you know so like okay lor, [orh] true lah maybe he'll just like uh <mandarin>我给你:wo gei ni</mandarin> like I think he say minimum wage is like a thousand five or a thousand one or something


it's like uh ya I give you a thousand five but I'll probably need to transfer him back that kind one ah, !hais!


what, okay, (mmhmm)


(uh huh), what the heck, where got like that one but it's his but it's his, family business uh so it's basically cheating his family out of the money lah then like what's the point


not say cheating lah like, then what's the point, [orh] [orh] I guess


, true true, but, what you say, oh, are you serious, what the heck


(uh huh), that's quite high for a poly intern


ya ya ya, [orh] ya you better ah cause four K for a small company quite a lot sia


eh then then you haven't tell me about this new girl girl that you uh seeing or like you talking to please please share, give me all the deets


oh you slide in her DMs lah, so weird, you damn stupid leh


!wah!, what that's a very no


attracted,


no ah maybe no I wanted to say is she psychotic the new girl, okay okay okay you you you we back track first you tell me more context then you get to the psychotic part


!aiyo!, !aiyo!


oh okay okay okay, eh !wah!, oh okay okay okay


, okay lah not okay lah that's quite tall but I don't care


okay, (uh huh), okay, okay


I like how you say you she exercise and worked out like both in a like a consecutively in the same sentence like, she is, is she hot


what you say no did you say no or I don't know, !huh!, , oh <mandarin>我要看我要看:wo yao kan wo yao kan</mandarin> okay okay


(mmhmm), okay


, (uh huh) (uh huh), [orh] <mandarin>你们遇到了:ni men yu dao le</mandarin> ah, oh three days lovely oh


!huh!


what do you mean by selective reply, hahaha


okay


so it's like that lor, !wah!, cute Kawaii


!wah!, ah, !wah!


(uh huh), (uh huh), (uh huh), (uh huh)


(uh huh), ah ah , what the <mandarin>那么长:na me zhang</mandarin> leh


she what, !huh! <mandarin>为什么她那么久才才分手:wei shen me ta na me jiu cai cai fen shou</mandarin> leh, !wah! if I were the guy I will like <mandarin>那么心痛:na me xin tong</mandarin> leh !wah!


guy lah, oh


, !wow!, what the,


!wah!, damn ,


kays, !huh!, !huh! okay


, [orh] <mandarin>帅:shuai</mandarin> ah okay, !wow!


, what the, then the girl damn stupid lah sia I tell you,


okay, wait wait wait <mandarin>为什么:wei shen me</mandarin> what do you mean by disappear,


!huh! <mandarin>她相信:ta xiang xin</mandarin> ah


, , excuse me, (uh huh)


<mandarin>他们:ta men</mandarin> uh, [orh] <mandarin>几个月:ji ge yue</mandarin> okay okay, uh ,


, , that's damn dubious leh <mandarin>如果我是那个女生我也是不会相信的:ru guo wo shi na ge nv sheng wo ye shi bu hui xiang xin de</mandarin> lor I will just like


wait wait <mandarin>他们一起你说两年:ta men yi qi ni shuo liang nian</mandarin> ah, , !huh! <mandarin>为什么:wei shen me</mandarin> leh, nah


what the hell that's terrible, all the scums in the world eh,


, okay,


oh shit, !huh! <mandarin>所以以前他也是会这样:suo yi yi qian ta ye shi hui zhe yang</mandarin> !wah! !wah! what the shit I don't know what to say, oh no <mandarin>真的死性不改:zhen de si xing bu gai</mandarin> sia oh


, seriously of all things eh,


kays, !wah! <mandarin>你们走到哪里:ni men zou dao na li</mandarin> sia


[orh] okay , (mmhmm)


uh oh, !walao! eh but you never see your ex lah, okay ah thank god


(mmhmm) !wah! you all met at night ah, what do you mean


spontaneous


texter okay , (mmhmm)


, (ppc), that is very random, , (mmhmm)


, very random okay, !huh!


that is so random, okay


, weird place


[orh]


uh, oh,


wait but what like you still haven't tell me like what's what why do you like her, okay okay fine


okay


!aiya! you pattern one lah you I swear you, (uh huh), okay


!wah!, !wow!


confirm ah, okay


ya it's like, so it's like <mandarin>你要还是你不要:ni yao hai shi ni bu yao</mandarin> you know


!huh!, what the, you you still got the patience to wait for her ah <mandarin>你等那么久:ni deng na me jiu</mandarin> for what sia, !wah! <mandarin>你真的小喜欢她:ni zhen de xiao xi huan ta</mandarin> ah


!wow!


!wah! you like, is it you desperate , !wah! you like really infatuated with her ah <mandarin>真的喜欢她:zhen de xi huan ta</mandarin> ah


nope, oh, okay


Siao Liao,


ya you are one creepy weirdo


oh, , okay okay


oh, wait what


!aiyo! she playing with you sia <mandarin>她跟你玩:ta gen ni wan</mandarin> leh


[orh], what the fuck


oh no, we'll see or like, later that then I tell you


oh oh what the fuck


eh you very creepy leh why can't you just go to a place when she say she's done, you are a criminal, yes


yes in retrospect it is quite creepy, okay


oh but still


okay, ya that is fine


oh shit I oh my god #yan ru# you are frozen, hello, you just hang


oh it's that girl ah


(mmhmm), !huh!, fuck, so weird


, okay, what does this have to do with anything


okay, okay


!huh!, what


he's interested in her, oh, eh so you tell


exactly


!huh! !wah!


you all never meet, !hais!, okay


that is so random, uh


!wow!, well why wait what's the matter screw up now, ha, 不过


#wong fu kay# eh if you see on sunday then you should just confessed largest, you know


I know, then you can move on photos also


okay okay, okay I guess this time to end the conversation


yes when asked me to euro, (uh huh)


uh okay hi let's start talking, , , what did I do today ah, today oh I woke up to


err, oh sorry I did not share you all but I woke up to a interview at eleven o'clock, then, a a survey interview for one of the government for our project that my my friend did, so


then then he say I will be awarded like, one hundred dollars Grab voucher , one hour, ya lor then but but, so so so this one


err, then they will send me the link again then after the link then


I do another interview then another fifty dollars so basically two hours hundred dollars so it's quite Shiok, then after that, ya actually I I think if they need and if if they need I send you I think I ask my friend then I forgot to share with you all, okay then, then


then what ah I remember I had something on at twelve o'clock, what did I have at twelve o'clock twelve o'clock, I, was it watch TV, today is thursday


oh shit I forgot, oh no okay I woke up to watch my daily Taiwan drama at, at nine fifteen, on probation then I watch with it's a it's a five hundred episodes drama


more than that, no wait, I think one thousand plus already one thousand plus already, ya then, , Taiwan drama, best but, so I finish at ten fifteen, then after ten fifteen <mandarin>我我做一个运动好像:wo wo zuo yi ge yun dong hao xiang</mandarin> uh stuff like push up


push up then, after that I do I just do my interview, ya afterwards then, what was I doing ah oh , now it's, prepare for next year's internship, so ya


err, like, next year summer ah because I applying bank what then, err <mandarin>看一下:kan yi xia</mandarin> video


then, then slowly apply lor then just now, at six o'clock I had one info session to attend to by, by GIC !wah!


it's damn stress okay ah but then err wait uh I say the other one first then at eight o'clock was it eight o'clock no at nine ah, eight o'clock I attended another info session by Mackenzie !wah!, like quite hard leh like


it it, info session means like uh it's a one hour sharing by the recruiters and by the full timers there, to sometimes share like their experience share, how they get in, then, ya lor very very very competitive lah very a lot of people very interested then


I think <mandarin>进不:jin bu</mandarin> Liao <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> but but I will still I will still try lah like, I will just apply and if I can get in then get if not I will just learn from the experience, ya then I only ate my dinner after the, the info session so


you eh


Siao Liao Siao Liao


, stress stress, now now now you are still is this like probation period or


or, pre pre full time or, traineeship


, <mandarin>然后那个那个那个那个那个那个工钱:ran hou na ge na ge na ge na ge na ge na ge gong qian</mandarin> eh, is it same as is it same uh intern pay or full time pay


nas daily ah or is it, ya, it's okay it's okay next time next time, next time


you will earn big money remember us eh derek, derek derek applying to same same places as me !wah! I think he will get it, I don't know eh, cause I don't know I just feel feel that he can get it then


ya <mandarin>熟悉四千五百块:shu xi si qian wu bai kuai</mandarin> !wah! if he get it right, I tell you ask ask them no no intern that's the intern pay


ya because err big banks they pay their interns well and, and if you convert your pay should be slightly increased from it, ya that's why the


oh ya, err depends most, err HSBC I don't think so because HSBC #hong kong# one #hong kong# oh actually based in london, ya but some some some some some companies pay well ah like


oh some it's department also HSBC intern pay also also got a few K, ya, !wah! <mandarin>讲到来我:jiang dao lai wo</mandarin> intern EY <mandarin>八百块而已:ba bai kuai er yi</mandarin> hello


trash, but, ya but if if if derek <mandarin>拿到:na dao</mandarin> ah, ask him treat us dinner already I tell you, oh but I'll I applying but I applying for another role I apply for for harder role so


so I think, because the the the role that derek applied for, my group my batch of friends they applied a lot a few of them managed to get in so I think derek should be able to get in also just a feeling ah


actually I don't know leh my my my work with clinton !wah! Sian Sian, [orh] <mandarin>就:jiu</mandarin> ah, you you know I like work with clinton full time right, ya so so clinton now


err, because he he hardcore one so he <mandarin>每天休:mei tian xiu</mandarin> office, ya, err, okay lah he, Paktor then go back office sleep


ya but, but, so so now the roles reverse


damn funny so recently our, project got, got our project, paused for a moment cause a big a big player, wants to like, wants clinton to <mandarin>跟他做工:gen ta zuo gong</mandarin> like he wants clinton to overtake his project


then we had a long meeting, then we decide that it's okay clinton can go then, me and another staff we, focus with our own life first because both of us for the next two years we have some distractions, so that's the plan then


clinton, then for me eh, cause now did I tell you all that I'm in NTU this sem


ya so, ya so, so, so I try to apply for, okay I I did not try to apply for all cause I don't want pay so I ask my friends to, let mes crash their hall !wah! this one another funny story


okay, then, ya then another another few funny incidents so


so I decided not to do it then, err, because my brother is a scholar then he he he got offered hall this, semester so he he got the options he chose, uh RVRC


the one point I said then they rejected RVRC they give him RC four, !wah! then the <mandarin>冷气:leng qi</mandarin> I know ah err


twenty four hours of air con six dollars, damn Shiok damn Shiok then, ya so, so so, so <mandarin>我本来要住他那里的:wo ben lai yao zhu ta na li de</mandarin> like


but now all, but it's just like dangerous for him lah like if caught then, it's not good for him he's like, if it like his scholarship may be gone lor then I decided not to ah so, so what I decide to do is because I every wednesday and saturday saturday has morning class nine o'clock


then if NTU if I like if I sleep at home I might as well wake up at five o'clock or something, so I decide to I decide to sleep in office, so I just ya sleep in office I can wake up at seven o'clock, shower !wah! by the way the


the , ya the the toilet got the toilet <mandarin>可以冲凉:ke yi chong liang</mandarin> but then, !wah! <mandarin>那个那个水比我家的舒服:na ge na ge shui bi wo jia de shu fu</mandarin> but very cold also lah so, so a bit a bit a bit not comfortable but


okay lah then, then quite Shiok cause my office got TV, so I, I I just lie on the sofa watch Netflix then until I fall asleep until next morning, then I just go to a shower in the morning then I go to school, so it has been like that for three weeks already


ya then !wah! but clinton say he say he may he may he may carry on his previous lifestyle, so maybe next year onwards we can we can see each other more, ya, ya long time never see him very weird


ya then, eh so that time you share about this guy any update about him or not, you only told me you are very happy , ya you you tell me sorry to my friend but


uh you feel bad but, you are very happy I said okay, [orh]


you I think you show me a photo leh, I think, never


oh damn


!siala!,


, so so he take like off to like work for it lah work for one year lah


which one the monica Baey or what, [orh] okay


oh it's not it's not like a voluntary LOA ah


okay lah NTU eh he which year ah supposedly, wait, when did he start his suspension


twenty, twenty, eh, I actually I'm I'm actually graduating in twenty twenty two also I think with derek I should be graduating with derek


ya lor


sec five <mandarin>去:qu</mandarin> poly okay lor correct, ya


NTU year three !wah! if it's not for this suspension, okay lah studies, can drag a bit one, someone he got his own business already but


the the #hong ming# #zu ming# all damn stress now, cause they business not good lah then they damn stress, then they they actually then I I I have another friend in construction business, they basically #zu ming#'s competitor lah, they actually actually


rich man son their life quite shag one leh they are not paying themself well, cause company doing badly so, so, less than less than four K, ya less than four K then after CPF is around two K plus already


ya then, ya lor then they work twelve hours a day somemore, ya


ya then then my other, my other, construction business friend also cause, his his company last time I don't know how they they managed to do very well they are listed company, but now their stock is damn bad lah means means they are worth very little


so like every year they have a every year will have a annual report, then, if the, employees some of them are high paid, they are their names will be out to like just to just publicly tell people who are earning more money lah, is is a must one though


so the first first band is fifty K two hundred K, ya then, per year per year, so if you you have considered one, one month is four K plus so my my friend work there three years then he he then he got into first year


ya so it's really quite quite sad then he work almost everyday, ya


ya lor !wah! but the, their floor, ya their floor plan, he send ah she she she she sent me, because because uh me derek william and


me derek william me derek william and shirlene got one group what cause of our SMU class, ya then then derek go ask about the floor plan, !wah!, expensive sia his her place


their william and shirlene the planning very good I think, they, ya they plan until very well like err, what did I want to say ah the, !wah! <mandarin>三十五楼:san shi wu lou</mandarin> eh, !wah!


ya ya but thirty five floor really !wah! damn Shiok damn Shiok, then forty floors thirty five floor !wah!


but but expensive but according to that time I was I was just interested in housing stuff, uh randomly then shirlene and william had to explain the whole process to me, then, so they only plan to take half of their half of their


half of their loans eh half of the total bill as loans, then I calculated right it's actually very decent eh for both of them cause they they earn so much money, then they, they each person need to pay less than one K eh, per month


ya it's, ya damn Shiok ah go there so let's treat it as three hundred K, so you, three hundred K of loan then is, usually is twenty years what, so let's say three okay let's say about four hundred K four hundred K of loans right


divide by twenty years it's, let's say they borrow four hundred K, okay let's say let's say their house is eight hundred K but let's start


let's say their house is eight hundred K right their so they they want to loan fifty percent of it which is one hundred K, so over twenty years right each each month each year is only twenty K, then you take twenty K divide by twelve, twelve it's one point six K


one point seven ah, ya but okay lah but, but got interest lah so right now the interest rate is around around around let's say two percent it's slightly higher cause now should be one plus, so times one point zero two, each of them need to pay around nine hundred dollars


ya and ya however they are earning I think, they they plan it very well lah, and they confirm will rise [orh] their salary, it's just that their they they they quite sad because they don't have grant unlike #hong ming#


but sick planning I was I was quite impressed when they explain to me


bro read the book I lend I I I gave you or lend you, you know you know it's damn I damn trash I I ask another friend to give me one more, so I so I got, I got one more now and !wah! the I'm damn thankful for the third friend because I mean he's my NS friend


then he he legitly, so so, the second one err, err talk to me over Zoom then ask me like


then I chose my three ah then she, she explained the the three to me then, err then okay then she send me the book within two weeks, then my last friend right


I I only met him on, on, month month I met him like a few years ago only then, then same lah he ask me like, three topics that you are interested in, then I say then I say this three then he say nevermind I'll just explain the whole book to you so he literally spend one hour to explain the whole book for me


ya so he he also told me about housing and all, so quite interesting, everytime you bid for a house I think you need to pay two hundred dollars eh BTO you need two hundred dollars, ya so so #ho ming# he failed four times I think


ya eh then your, current, date, date is is he singaporean or


wait but you're not you're not, PR right, wait but but, PR you can I thought you you only can stay in Singapore for a while more


PR I thought can stay forever one, I thought you are if you that time you told us <mandarin>如果找不到工作:ru guo zhao bu dao gong zuo</mandarin> within a few months you are kicked back to your country no meh


HR, !huh! so so it's really true ah if you're not full time you you need to send back ah


then they fire you, strategy strategy


or you can you can, okay but, for you dangerous cause you need to you you may be leaving, if you don't find job you may you may leave right, ya eh you got but you got learn any new skill or not


oh, oh for him


ah , uh but <mandarin>我觉得他要给:wo jue de ta yao gei</mandarin> eh if if if he for show then he he should give you money then


then however you want to settle it's up to him ah, ya sia


!wah! !wah! actually this is smart eh, okay you see ah you think about it, oh my god this damn smart what if he, if he


let's say he draws three K a month, then, let's say he draw three K a month then he, if he hires you right then he can cut is pay by three K, eh so he can


then he cut his by one point five K also, then he draw one point five K from company then you transfer him one point five K, what the, what the shit


no no no no no no never never never as in, it's it's just playing around with they money because he give you he give you one point five K he give himself one point five K total still three K what, as in to to help you lah like in case like


they need to play around !wah!, that's why having business damn fun one, but but stress when when no money that time really quite stress, speaking of which I need to settle already, cause cause cause we have a intern


!wah! the intern taking more money than me !wah! Sot, ya so so the intern, cause we applied for a grant, then for the grant if I if I want to apply for grant then I must pay the intern minimally eight hundred dollars, !wah! honestly speaking for a for a for a poly intern that's considered quite high already so I


so we pay him eight hundred dollars for five months which is four K ah, think like I think four K is okay but for small company I think it's it's a big big hit to us so we, so we I I applied for grant to get up to seventy percent back so must settle that grant soon


ya, ya sia !wah!, stress stress this week ah this week


!wah! this one story also so, so I so right, I had a company, I was working for this like err


consulting company, then, ya then, then, the interns have like access to the social media so so I got a I got a Instagram account, then I use the Instagram account I, I I follow her then I talk to Instagram


with that, with that company account , so so I asked her for her number straight then I delete the I delete the conversation from the company account so no one else can see, then then I told her I will leave the company so if someone texts you from that account again it's not me


ya lah so, so this girl, !wah!, I think I have a thing for, I have a weird recent thing for girls who are unemployed sia, as in it's it's it's not I have a thing it's I I, I am just


not say attracted is like


no job in Brunei no job in Singapore, she basically like, !wah!, !wah!, kay kay uh uh, actually


uh, she she also quite weird maybe but maybe <mandarin>我就是被喜迎到这种我就喜迎到这种女孩子:wo jiu shi bei xi ying dao zhe zhong wo jiu xi ying dao zhe zhong nv hai zi</mandarin> okay but, ya I think she is better than #hui rou#, err, this one just now when I uh you told me your your your your boy's age is twenty five I shock


cause like for, oh but previously also older right but this is the first time I'm like this the first time I'm, talking to a older girl


so so right she, ya then she she twenty six but she looks like she looks like some nineteen year kid like that, but she she's I think she's a she's one of the tallest girl that I go out with she one six


okay lah slightly shorter than shirlene, ya then, so she, three years poly, wait wait no she she three years poly then she also sec five, then after that she take one year gap year


somewhere then she just graduated from NTU, ya so she now, don't have a job and the funny thing is she's not actively looking for a job she just want to like, chill and explore what she want to do with her life so she everyday legit doing nothing


not say nothing with her life lah she she exercise she works out spend time with her family, okay lah but, she exercise and workout oh shit she exercise and she


she start like baking lor, because, !wah!, err, no eh , no I don't think so as in


ya I think she quite cute later later I send you photos she quite cute but, ya lah it's okay but the thing about her right is, she, like err err send message


and like, so so we we only communicated three ways one is, Telegram, then, Facetime, she use Facetime cause she doesn't use Zoom what the she studies tech and she doesn't use Zoom I cannot take it


she use Facetime but actually Facetime time quite uh good now now I start talking to her on Facetime actually quite quite quite fun then she and, and meet up, ya <mandarin>我们我见她三次了:wo men wo jian ta san ci le</mandarin> Liao


ya, no, and none none of them are dates okay lah the first time we spent the most time so, so err, you know but okay so ah, she Telegram ah !wah! <mandarin>不可以不可以不可以不可以:bu ke yi bu ke yi bu ke yi bu ke yi</mandarin> she


her selective reply !wah! pisses me off I tell you, she, you know like you all you all, the guy send you five messages you reply only two or three of them !wah!, I cannot I really cannot her selective reply damn


bad then I, I so there's one time I quite #pek chek# then I decided to just send her one message by one message then I just wait for reply one by one, the but sometimes I will still send extra lah like if I if I want to like share more stuff with her then I just talk to her, ya then she two days ago we had this conversation like


err, nevermind you reply me one by one then she's like, I realize you like you like to say one thing at one time then I told her I do that cause you look like you have you like to say one thing at one time only, cause then she just tell me no I just like to selective reply


!wah! she just tell me straight, ya but, !hannor!, but but over the phone or if we meet in real life she she damn she damn friendly one, then, so so


so but she got she got a lot of people, err, like chasing after her so quite shag, she will, she she she she ex Pageantee one, also also also okay lah later I show you her pageant photo she quite cute


but no lah as in she really quite good looking ah to me lah then, her her first boyfriend six years long leh !wah!, damn sad damn sad, damn sad six years


date slash relationship ah then the he she actually really like treat him like as friends then, then he he was he was a damn good guy and he very sincere then she just say she don't mind trying it out lah, then really don't mind trying ah until six years later then then then


then six years later the reason why they break up right is cause he she still see him as a friend, she still sees him as a friend after six years, ya, !hannor! !wah! I hear the story I tell her !wah! I damn heartbrokened for your for your ex


ya then, then uh so she had total of four boyfriends right she said that is still the best like, candidate not say like her favourite boyfriend but that's like her the best candidate, as a guy cause like her family likes her a lot her her her parents like like him a lot


ya lor and the thing is after they, breakup right the the the ex still got to talk to the parents one, so so that time we count that time me and her count counted right I think their whole like


they they this whole period between like they start as friends then get together then, then talk to parents I think is eight to nine years already the whole thing, !wah!, really her her her her one third of her childhood for this guy, then


after that she after that she date, err, quite funny her story her her her life actually quite interesting she dated another guy for eight months, then okay this story this story love story really quite funny like, the guy is involved in a


court case, cause he, a girl like, accused him of, making her pregnant, so throughout the few months actually and she show me all her ex photo !wah! this guy this guy really quite good looking, then throughout a few months they spend like their relationship settling this court case


so quite Sian lah then the court case ended with, the baby not his son, fuck is is you know when I hear the story I'm like, we're like what ya doesn't doesn't doesn't, this is is dumb eh then uh they they


ya then after that the the third one is the third one basically is a it's a trust trust issue thing like like, err, the <mandarin>男生:nan sheng</mandarin> is a


then uh she will, he'll he'll, he he tell her that she go for basketball training like everyday four hours at six o'clock this time then, ya lor then legitly


she will MIA one and he will like uh disappear then, the thing is the, okay so the thing is right all the all the guys all the guys or all the friend of of her's right will tell her that, tell her that she, that this guy confirm like sneaky cheating on you behind but the thing is she hasn't found any evidence at all


but as in she just cannot take it then they just break up lah, ya, so I I'm, but that one really like, quite quite interesting cause up till now she don't know whether he's lying or not


ya cause cause they broke up before like she find out anything maybe maybe maybe he really never lie but, it's it's it's just it's just quite funny like everyday he train a few hours and disappear, ya, then, then the


!hannor!, ya a few a few months then, the last one is like, the guy is a regular uh NS one, then


then they together two years this one I think this one is the one that she likes the most, they they they got a BTO sia, ya, ya they got BTO, ya, then <mandarin>两年:liang nian</mandarin> BTO then down payment but


they break up lah, cause the guy cheated on her, err ya , ya sad sad so, so, so so this one this one uh


this one and you know the the six years boyfriend and this boyfriend two years one right they both, stay over at her place one, so her family her family is very open about it like very receptive towards like boyfriend staying over and all and like cause she stay at, Sengkang area


!wah! this one another story okay but she stay at Sengkang area right, then it's near his camp at #pasir ris# what so he just stayover then is convenient and all ya then, then breakup the the the mother of the guy apologize to to her cause like, err he had this history lah then


then the the the mom the mom thought that <mandarin>他会改而最后也是没有改:ta hui gai er zui hou ye shi mei you gai</mandarin> lah, even like after BTO he never change so, !hannor!


okay but, !wah! the funny thing is !wah! this girl she stay, damn near #chin lee tan#, see so, ya shit so like so like, the okay the first time we ever went out is we went for a walk like literally a walk the the walk is thirteen KM walk


ya ya so I went to she she told me that she she has a, ever since she broke up she she, she wants to like keep fit lah so she she one thing she does is just try to run and walk every night every night so


I met her at, around her area ya Punggol Sengkang Buangkok <mandarin>那地区:na di qu</mandarin> lor, then <mandarin>我第一次见她是在:wo di yi ci jian ta shi zai</mandarin> Buangkok, then, Buangkok right we walk five minutes I walk pass #chin lee's# house then I like !wah!


ya it it just like oh then I I that stretch I was quiet for a bit, never never then ya lor we just walk walk walk walk to like, walk like, thirteen KM then, then we walked till


we walk to Punggol, then from Punggol I, err wanted to go home lah but I didn't then in the end, in the end she uh I told her I accompany her back to her place first so we Grab to her place then from there I book a Grab back to my place


ya lor so, ya we met at night, we the three outings are usually at night okay the the first one is planned, the the last two right, maybe I did something wrong, maybe lah but


so so, after after that I I learned from her that she's not a plan preplan person she likes things to be like ad hoc, ya she really likes ad hoc stuff then, then okay lor I try not to plan stuff with her so the first one was like


err, so the first one is the only one planned then, cause she's really such a bad, like texter after the first outing right I thought she like don't want to talk to me anymore but she still like, she's still okay eh then then uh there's one day she suggested uh


I suggested like, uh meeting her for brunch cause, she likes mac griddles then I thinking of like just buy then we can have brunch together, then, she say don't want cause calories too high, then I say, okay then she she eat oats a lot


damn funny her oats like really damn no taste one she give her friends her friends say it's jail food, then I tell her I can how about I go over to your because I know where she stay like lobby I don't go up lah then we just like eat oats, then she say no how about


how about you can just call me and you can call me and, uh you watch me eat oats then five minutes and it will be over, then like I like, I like because she's she say she can cook in five miniutes then she can finish in okay okay sorry she can finish it very fast also so she say it's a five a thing lah


then okay lah then I I say then on that day I say, uh am I still coming here to watch you eat oats then she say you want Facetime then okay lor then we Facetime then that that, !wah! that call I mean one hour plus leh, ya so like she she's really a much person better person when she


when she when she, when she, talk on the phone lah, okay okay then the second time was pure ad hoc, so like !wah! I tell you this guy this girl right every few days got one guy will ask her out then we'll bring her to a, a weird place one as in not weird as in a place like


not say weird place like err, restaurant all these one, I I assume that they are chasing her lah and, was it, it's all like male friend male friend male friend, ya then is is I assume they are trying to chase her lah


I I, as in she she told me that she go out with her male friend, then you when she when she's out with her male friend right her phone really don't touch one eh a few hours on of offline one then okay lor like she she like to spend time with her, uh she she like to spend time then okay lor then I'm I'm okay with that then


so what ah, she is just it's just, , it's just like that the the feel the feel like when I with her, she got she's I don't know ah it's just a feeling


err, and she she very filial lah I like I like that part she she everyday like go out with her mum to help her carry stuff accompany her, to me that was okay lah, then, err


!wah! the second night I was with my friends at Serangoon gardens for supper, !wah! then I fell asleep while chatting with my friends, so , then then, then


!wah! I tell you it's it's quite hard for a guy to like not think too much but then, then, then, cause she likes ad hoc plan so at two plus I texted her say you want supper


then then she reply very, and then she say uh err, she never say meet then, !wah! that one I got quite angry for a bit then she, err she like, she like okay to it but she never she like okay but she never confirm


but so it feels like a no but she never say no so it's really like I don't know what then I tell her okay lah I I will just wait under her place, ya then that day I meet my friends only like we legitly meet for supper so I legit brought nothing with me other than my phone and wallet


!wah!, then, I reach her place I haven't Grab to her place from gardens to cause I thought she will reach home but in the end right, I waited outside her place like below her place for two hours plus till she reach home eh means, she was with her friend till like four plus eh four something like weird right


then, ya I legit don't know what I doing with my life there then, then my phone, my phone also it's it's just the feel lah like I want to see her and like just eat with her then, then my phone my phone no battery then I need to go I go to the I go to ask every random stranger like if you have a portable charger


then what I did is I went to the Prata shop and just like can you take my phone and just charge in your shop then just sit outside there then, then just look at the phone waiting for her to reply then she reply then I I take the phone then reply then I then that's it in the end, ya lah


sound like it sia then I'm like it's only her because, because like you know I also got talk to other girls but I don't I don't like do all this with other girls, I, quite ah, it's not like really like but


the feeling quite nice lah when I when, when we are meeting through text, I sometime I roll eyes a lot one then, ya then then that day we we we met for, like supper slash breakfast cause by the time we eat is four plus five o'clock already


then I took bus home I got even time to take bus though cause that's how late we were, ya so we we had supper so just now I told you, the last two maybe I made a mistake right so this one mistake number one mistake number two, kay not say mistake ah like


okay I quite thankful also that, she really like super chill with all the ad hoc kind of stuff cause, I if I if I considered another girl's perspective right they may consider it as like creepy cause like I just like wait under their house, ya so


ya so second time also second time, second time she, okay second time is she okay I I say both side wrong, second time we plan err cause I I oh I never tell you ah I really vegan already this month


so it started on a it started on a wednesday


then you know on monday dinner right on monday afternoon she tell me she cannot meet me anymore, ya on on on, on monday afternoon she say she cannot, on monday afternoon she say she cannot meet me for dinner


cause she has another plan with another guy, ya, I, !wah! Sot okay but, but okay we clarified on this matter a few days ago like like


yesterday or two days ago because she's already a person who cannot plan stuff properly one, before she go out with someone, like the person will remind her one that we have a outing tomorrow or we are going for this tomorrow so the thing is then I was like, so uh the person should remind you a few days then I say so this guy doesn't know you that well is it


then she say ya he reminded me a few days ago, then I'm like thinking why he remind you a few days ago but you only tell me in the afternoon then she, then I say is it you forget then she say ya she forgot, ya lor then, and then I just like, err I just tell her uh how about I meet you after after dinner for supper


then she then her reply it's not no or yes her reply is always the, no she, no no okay is more towards yes it's like I'll text you when I'm done, ya so, so I I


so for that I, I I legit do my own stuff lah then she, she never reply lah then she, I think like, cause I think that she will come back late again right so I just, I just go to her place below at eleven something


eleven plus, [orh] I don't know I okay I, the way I think, it's quite creepy but, I don't know eh when I when I think that time I thought I was very thoughtful but okay it's more creepy cause


ya cause I I didn't want her to like travel, so like since there's a there's a supper place below then, then I just wait wait outside the supper place ah then uh then she come back then we can supper or something, ya


but in the end we met then she's like completely fine with it, hopefully, !wah! that one not very long less than one hour I think, and but that one that, that day I have my portable charger so she text me say that err, she text me say that err I'm home then I say you you want to you want to eat still


then that day I pass her some stuff I pass her oats also cause my house also got oats then I let her try, ya then she legit come down and just we just chit-chat lah we chit-chat still one hour plus, ya then she she make she made oats for supper cause she don't want to eat other stuff then we ate the oats together like she's really cool then we ate from the oats


then, so that day quite funny I I texted you all that night, I texted you all that night uh say that, can you hear me, I I texted you that night saying that this girl literally tell me how to chase her cause cause


cause a few years before I met her right she ask me to intro guys to her, then, then I'm like I'm like what then that day that day I was just talking about it ah you so you did you ask a lot of your male friends to intro guys to me then they say ya but cannot


cause two things one is, this guy don't this girl don't need guys to intro second thing is second thing is if they were to intro somebody they will introduce themself, , , that's what they say to her so then she tell me that, she just want someone to like directly confess to her a simple line saying that I'm interested in you uh can we try something out oh cause


a day before that I met clinton, ya then clinton was telling me about like platonic friendships platonic relationship, then because clinton is, clinton is someone who don't believe in that thing


ya he he really don't believe in that thing and his his ideology also kind of make sense he said that, two person can attract right because at some point of time, uh you treat it as a data point this person's data point is basically like everything that you liked of someone then you are just attracted to that person


err then things may carry on from there so like let's say you and a opposite sex friend right, one day this person just changed her attitude her attire her, her her style the way she speak then her data point suddenly just match everything that


you like of a girl would you say they are not attracted to her then I just say that ya lah I I'm I might be attracted but I still treat her as a friend but, does that's mean it's plantonic then I'm like, then then he just say that all these are words that humans create to like justify and validate their ex


then okay lor then so these are the stuff that I shared with this girl also her name is, #li ying#, ya then, then she then for her her stand is completely believe in platonic, err, platonic because


uh as in we were just talking about a conversation uh deep talks because I shared cause she likes to have deep talks with people, because she share with me about her story of her her and her very close lawyer friend, about, she like to talk to him cause they have a lot of deep talks together the the guy analysing from her deep perspective then I


I I told her that I have this friend also have it lah then that that guy is clinton, then, for her she believes in platonic because she has never, think that anyone is attractive before, ya so how she gets into relationship she always she treats everyone like friend I also treat everyone as friend but for me I I of course I'm attracted some girls but


he only she only get attracted, she only start thinking to be attracted when someone actually tell her that, she's attract uh he he likes her or something then he'll then she will she will she will start like, looking at she will start like noticing the guy more then like you know like in your head this imaginary check list then see tick tick tick tick


ya, never so so, literally it means literally it means err if I just tell her I'm interested in you she will create that imaginary checklist for me, so, so right it was


ya so, so that day I was like, I was like just I I I don't know it just went blank in my head then, then okay so that day where she she said on afternoon she she tell me uh she cannot make it for dinner right she say let's meet tomorrow instead


err before she left, she just suddenly pack then we I also naturally pack then she just carry her stuff and walk up


then I we gave her I hug her ah say see you soon then !wah! her this this one really uh trick my head a bit, uh see you soon not tomorrow meh then I like what, then she don't then I say like


ya ya that's the thing then I say then I'm like, okay sure if you say yes to me in the end, so I was like thinking that's the day I texted you ah say that tomorrow you got chance I was I was I will try to confess to her, but is the thing is the thing is uh we didn't meet up lah then I didn't get a chance to


talk to her so like, right now I'm trying to, on, on sunday, then I I purposely book at Serangoon area so like if you want to meet for dinner it's possible so if


if we got a chance to like meet for dinner then maybe I'll tell you it to her lah, but, today today she got today she got date or not today !wah! today one quite sad, yesterday, she she yesterday told me that today she going out eh this morning she told me she going out with a guy tonight, then then she at morning she tell me she may just cancel the date


!wah! legit she cancel leh, then, the the the the <mandarin>男孩子约她去一个:nan hai zi yue ta qu yi ge</mandarin> or <mandarin>一个:yi ge</mandarin> restaurant at gardens by the bay then she just can't pick she really she really do whatever she was at at the term that she used is


well the the use like living at the moment then I'm like, then I'm like okay then she she's she try to a scheduled to tomorrow so I don't know how so like today she, she she met her friends in the modules you can't say she wants to hibernate like wood timely and then of course that we have not been talking much today


ya so hopefully you don't see on saturday sunday, ya I was I will show you how she looks like, ya <mandarin>我应该就只见告白因为:wo ying gai jiu zhi jian gao bai yin wei</mandarin> cause if yes then okay maybe you can proceed somewhat cause


I can see that if she liked she's interested she can go like, along with someone but if you're not interested she say no then okay lah this you can you give up earlier, are guys say some photo motorbike, 'cause she has a birth mark


she has above my face area, so her photos are not very nice but okay lah I think she's still quite cute, and we are, so


the shall we just, nice speaking to you again clara, judge at the bye bye


ya okay recorder on, okay, ya


yup that's right so, I think we can start now so err hans err, I think maybe let me just ask you about your day how how's your day


oh okay, oh no, oh no


then, yo, yes


okay can, yup, ya


ya, !wow! sounds like you have a very tough time and uh I just hope like you have a speedy recovery


so I think, oh no ya but I just hope that everything is fine ya but err today I


I think for my day is quite well I guess err, I just, err went to work and basically I work at a korean family restaurant


I wanted to apply to NTU err but then, err I unfortunately didn't get accepted ya so now I just work at a korean restaurant for now


and it's okay lah not that bad ya I would say err just, the I would say F&B you know the usual things err customers sometimes a bit demanding and what not, ya


ya but, the issue is that err cause the course that I study is quite, so what I study is actually I study err, diploma in outdoor adventure learning in RP


ya so


ya but I think, ya but err just try your best like I guess ya


ya, ya but that's actually my aim actually to get into OBS but, the thing about OBS is it's very tricky because err, it's not something whereby you can just enter, you have to actually sign up for err


like what you call a test, then during these tests they will see whether are you like do you meet the criteria to become a instructor, then from there then they will give you a six months traineeship


ya so it's not like the oh I want to join in and then where do I sign up and then you just sign up and you can going to be a instructor so it takes quite long, the process is a bit more uh tedious part, I would say that the


it's for good reason because they want their instructors to be of quality standard


err <mandarin>他的:ta de</mandarin> center, secondary, two <mandarin>还是:hai shi</mandarin> secondary three <mandarin>的学生一定要通过一个:de xue sheng yi ding yao tong guo yi ge</mandarin> outward bound <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> camp


err, instructors <mandarin>跟:gen</mandarin> facilitators <mandarin>所以我觉得也是个好的机会:suo yi wo jue de ye shi ge hao de ji hui</mandarin> lah


medical condition


I see I see, oh no no no don't worry


ya I think I think that will be another err a topic for another day ya it's fine, ya but no lah cause I was just wondering cause uh for me uh I was in, I, I would say my NS journey is quite tough, up and down, oh so I was from ah


school one BMT falcon, and then after that I got into OCS, ya but then after that err due to a injury in my knee then I have to be out of course lah, so it's a bit wasted but I mean ya but because I also didn't want it to impact my


future whereby like actually I could have kept on going but err, I just took it upon myself to, drop out because I didn't want just because I complete OCS and, like, cause further injury to my knee ah


because we were at the, like I would say the peak of the training intensity, ya so then I went to Clementi camp to be a security trooper ah


ya, ya but it was I would say a bit wasted lah cause I also was looking forward but, err didn't manage to get a chance to commission as a officer


I mean, ya ya I would say so so it's just unfortunate but ya so that's more or less my NS life but but I did enjoy I would say the process I mean I did meet quite a lot of people and I


you you'll see many things lah I would say like not just during training but err during, uh your NS days uh I will say for me personally and I felt like, you know it's it's quite a


good thing I will say because it opened my eyes ya


it was quite err, I would say eye opener because a lot people have the impression that oh !whoa! you study at !wow! somewhere near boys' town ah !whoa! then all the boys very rowdy is it but actually no boys' town is actually like err it's a place for like


err broken family whereby they actually take care of all the kids is something like an orphanage I would say, but err more for boys lah ya


ya boys' town ya that's right


ya I mean !aiya! I think it's just a singaporean thing !walao! singaporeans they they they always ask this that's why you call it the chinese new year question cause it always come down during chinese new year err is like a it's like err I think to them is like a way to like start a conversation


whereby they will ask like eh <mandarin>你结婚了吗有没有女朋友:ni jie hun le ma you mei you nv peng you</mandarin> you know that kind of thing so


what what do I call it like human touch I would say, whereby they don't really interact with people as easily as last time, ya


err


err <mandarin>在他们面前做到:zai ta men mian qian zuo dao</mandarin> !wah! you very nice !wah! all lah but then


, so I, age come with wisdom as well lah so I think, really


, !wow! but I


!whoa!


and, ya


err stigma, ya whereby people misunderstand and like they will think like oh reserved seat is only for elderly ya or pregnant, but then no lah is if you really need it then just go and sit so sometimes I also will just


I will just sit and then if I mean if I really see somebody who need it then I'll give it up but, but other than that I think I don't really care, care if like people are looking at me sitting on reserved seat


ya ya


err , do it but I think it's just because, they sometimes they are not aware I think I think the is usually the older generation lah I mean, I don't really see younger people doing it I think


, I think it's a it's a bad thing lah like where we we feel I mean we should learn how to stand up and like tell


the other party you know if he's like wrong or like, I think sometimes it's just, it it is it's even bad because sometimes we are to to help people like sometime if you see people !wah! they struggling to cross the road ah what ah then we just feel to help


because we don't want to, like I would say stand out, ya


civic minded


, <mandarin>可是有些人也是:ke shi you xie ren ye shi</mandarin> I think


, so young adults lah you are saying they're more like able to handle the situation and,


<mandarin>我觉得我们现在有很多人也是然后想好像你想说的就是那个:wo jue de wo men xian zai you hen duo ren ye shi ran hou xiang hao xiang ni xiang shuoy de jiu shi na ge</mandarin> immigration


like there are still all the BTO are still getting smaller and smaller


do you agree I think, I would say that way


ya but isn't that's what isn't that what is happening right now I mean like okay I I personally I don't really check like (uh huh) resale prices or HDB prices but I think at like I think it's err okay I think for me it's just err


like there's a mindset whereby like !wah! prices now like !wah! half a lah for maybe a four room flat or like even higher, whereby like last time it was like, I don't know it was significantly like cheaper lah


!wow!,


, !wow!


the rich and the poor is


ya correct correct, ya


you know err get a house I think these are all , concerns


it makes sense because, a a dog can also follow you a dog cat can you know follow you you take care of it you know and, it's not that expensive you don't have to go and buy diaper you don't have to go feed milk powder you don't have to get baby clothes you don't have to give what


you know bringing that kid up and, making sure that he has a adequate life, and to make him you know at least mould him and get him prepared for the future, and in this current state I think


with, what is going on I think is very I I think a lot of young people would say, that, it's, it is not the right environment, because of like what global warming with everything that's happening society


societies err changing you know, like, why would you want to bring, err, human being or a baby into this like world whereby eventually, you you're going he's going to have so much pressure


and, like all the, all the, upbringing that you have to, bring him through, you know


ya I mean I mean having a kid is also good like I I have, I have a niece and


they feel very fulfilled lah I would say being a parent well but I I think it's just whether you can, afford to, bear that responsibility and afford that kind of


err lifestyle I guess whether you know raising a kid properly giving them what they want what they need, ya


ya I think even with the government giving out like grants or like you know baby bonus lah or what all those kind of thing but I think is, the how much how much can they grant how much can they you know give, to help


is that there is still err there's still a finite amount that you know that they they can give so much only, and


ya, that's right, ya but I think okay lah I have to give props to the government that you know they are trying their best


and that, you know they really want to help, singaporeans I think currently, I okay I don't know about, your opinion but I think, like currently the government is doing, like their best in trying to help singaporeans be it this COVID period or be it out of the COVID period


that you know they're just trying to make sure that, singaporeans get through this period and, ya they're just trying their best to help I would say


ya,


they they need if they need more in-depth like details or like more speech related


I guess err criterias then, is totally up to them but I think if they're ya, if there are just looking for a conversational, like, english chinese switching here and there then I think we shouldn't be a problem because


okay I I honestly don't know like, the what what the research is for although they say is like for singlish, and to understand code switching, but err I don't know lah there might be other hidden agendas or


ya so I'm not sure what their, proper criteria is but I think we have a high chance to be accepted if I'm not wrong


so ya, ya I mean


ya, maybe maybe it make sense but I mean also, ya lah they already say it's err more of research but ya but it's solely up to them to see what they want no lah but I'm I'm not confident cause like


you know like it's just more of I think they need the the speakers that's why they keep advertising if I'm not wrong, err


ya ya I got it from telegram actually, ya where where did you [oh] you also got it from telegram [ah] at first I I was looking at it and then <mandarin>我就看看然后:wo jiu kan kan ran hou</mandarin> [eh] <mandarin>好像不错:hao xiang bu cuo</mandarin> [leh] <mandarin>只是要讲话然后只是要录音:zhi shi yao jiang hua ran hou zhi shi yao lu yin</mandarin> then okay [lah] then after that I see then (err) okay then I didn't have a conversational partner so that's why I was like (err) then they last minute arrangement for me


okay we are doing the clapping ah one two three clap, okay so now is live ah, , alright so are you going to go with the prompt my name is hans so my partner is eugene we are doing this recording for the NUS codeswitch and singlish err data collection


oh my day ah err I spend the day at home lah in fact for the past few days because I wasn't feeling well


I have some medical, issues err last sunday so I suffer this terrible pain ah, and then it was really unbearable, so


ya eh eugene sorry ah sidetrack a bit ah I think ah according to their their guideline hor they say that try not to overlap hor that means one guy speaking than the other guy silent then after that ah the other guy speak right then this end will both silent probably they want to keep the vocal clear ah


alright okay so now get back to the conversation ah so it was really unbearable the pain and then I decided to go to hospital ah and then I went to SGH


got admitted to A&E, and then fortunately ah they see me very fast lah within half an hour the doctor came to me cause usually A&E sometimes ah according to the availability of the days hor, the patient may need to wait for quite some times ah but that day ah was fortunate enough for me ah


get admitted quite soon doctor see me, then err did some test lah and then err give me painkillers


so it was something quite strange for me also lah ah immediately once I go in they put me in the bed lah because the pain is so unbearable I can't stand right, and then after that they just push me around ya first time ah adult life ah in the bed ah people pushing me


ya and then go in, start having nauseous vomiting and then err they go through the preliminary checks ah they have the steps lah ah whether is, appendix the gall bladder things like that ya so apparently what I had is call renal colic ah


err it is a pain coming from the kidney like something is obstructing the kidney so it causes the pain and that pain is one of the worst pain that a person can have, so err they did some tests ultrasound test X-ray blood test urine test ya all things so the conclusion is this lor and they gave me the painkiller accordingly lah based on this kind of pain and it works ah


so I was really glad ah that it works, ya because, it was like totally different person ah, ah <mandarin>进去的时候跟:jin qu de shi hou gen</mandarin> after <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> painkiller administration ah


it's totally two different person, ya it's like go through hell then come back again, alright so after that hor they, decided to send me to see a special needs lah so I got appointment coming up next week


err so you may ask ah why not next day <mandarin>为什么不要明天晚上就去看对吗:wei shen me bu yao ming tian wan shang jiu qu kan dui ma</mandarin> because it is a public hospital like if it's a private hospital probably I will go to see a specialist the next day and do a more thorough scanning up, probably need a CT scan or MRI scan lor just to check out what is obstructing the kidney


number of things ah the size ah and then what procedure to do lor, ya so because, they make the appointment and the appointment takes up one week ya so this few days I stay home to rest


err if there is pain I take painkiller, ya, so tomorrow I'm going back to work hopefully everything is fine, and uh, and wait for the appointment to come lah, so this is my little episode lah the story


so now go back to you ah eugene


but I got suspicious I got the suspicious you will go off for quite some time ah


oh I can see ah but it's okay ah as for the study I think err just try again lor if not this year maybe next year ah, err just keep applying lor and there isn't just a single university right from what I know currently there are five


in singapore so


!whoa! eh <mandarin>挺愣挺愣人的:ting leng ting leng ren de</mandarin> eh <mandarin>这个东西:zhe ge dong xi</mandarin>


!oi! <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> notice hor <mandarin>一样东西:yi yang dong xi</mandarin> leh if we are going to have a normal conversation hor based on their guideline ah it's quite difficult because ah usually a normal conversation would be you you said something and then I will respond immediately ah and then is unable to separate our recording lor or voice so I think we just we just go by the normal conversation lah otherwise it sound a bit contrive fake lah


ya so your your study ah diploma and outdoor adventure ah <mandarin>真的是挺愣人的:zhen de shi ting leng ren de</mandarin> leh like in singapore where can find a outdoor adventure ah other than outbound school ah


ya I believe so ah, err as in this is part of the, right quality control, <mandarin>他们要选人的时候要经过三圈:ta men yao xuan ren de shi hou yao jing guo san quan</mandarin> hor <mandarin>选对人进去可是我的看法是:xuan dui ren jin qu ke shi wo de kan fa shi</mandarin> hor, is like you


career option is not that varies ah, err offer lor


err <mandarin>所以基本上就做这些:suo yi ji ben shang jiu zuo zhe xie</mandarin> lor


[orh]


is they try to implement and regulate it out such a way that , they feel that it benefits the students ah and mould their characters ah


on the other hand ah, it doesn't seem organic [orh]


ha it's something like NS lor NS <mandarin>也是耶不管你好坏全部他都要收耶好的也收坏的也收:ye shi ye bu guan ni hao huai quan bu ta dou yao shou ye hao de ye shou huai de ye shou</mandarin> right because it's conscription ah it is unlike the voluntary army ah like the US and UK nowadays ah they do the criteria and then they select like they have a selection process


and select the right person to go into the army because this guy ah is going to fight a wall next to you he he need to be reliable dependable and need to be able to, lift up to the their position or, and then <mandarin>他们可以这样做对吗而且对他们来讲很重要耶:ta men ke yi zhe yang zuo dui ma er qie dui ta men lai jiang hen zhong yao ye</mandarin> because


they face weird enemy hor they fight great battles [orh]


uh, oh


err, some of the special case lah it's hard for me to explain within this conversation also lah


ya <mandarin>没有机会去啦:mei you ji hui qu la</mandarin> and it got nothing to do with, with ah anything that brush with the law ah, err <mandarin>因为以前:yin wei yi qian</mandarin> hor <mandarin>有些人听到我没有去:you xie ren ting dao wo mei you qu</mandarin> NS hor <mandarin>他们就讲:ta men jiu jiang</mandarin> !whoa! how come you don't go NS ah <mandarin>你做了这么东西啊:ni zuo le zhe me dong xi a</mandarin> drug addict ah <mandarin>我说不是你知道那些:wo shuo bu shi ni zhi dao nei xie</mandarin> drug addicts hor they send to the rehab centre they don't want to do NS mah <mandarin>没有啦不是这样啦:mei you la bu shi zhe yang la</mandarin> so there is a story behind it lah but maybe we can leave it for another day lor if our trial if our trial is successful maybe one day we will come into the conversation


ya,


(mmhmm), , okay good


oh, that's too bad,


, , , oh okay ya usually it's like that lor if you drop out of OCS ah it's very difficult to put you back to certain units lor then ya they just insert you to whichever


position they can find for you ah, but it's not your fault lah sometimes injuries does happen ah during training


oh definitely lah because over there ah you got this, of all sectors of society ah then that put them together, ya together then all from different social economic background, ah different level of people altogether and then it's like a mini society what you will encounter outside


when you come out to work ah, and err I agree with you that NS is one of the more unforgettable experience for singapore male ah, uh I think some of them make their best friends during their NS days lor uh besides their secondary school ah usually in secondary school or NS I think their best friends


correct or not, you did


ya ya


!aiya! I think I think for for


for people who has some, disciplinary issues also right for the boys' err town !huh!, is it, , so it's something like that lah then <mandarin>你很无辜:ni hen wu gu</mandarin> lor <mandarin>被误会:bei wu hui</mandarin>


ah then you get to feel you get to feel <mandarin>他们那个社会冷漠的眼光是吗:ta men na ge she hui leng mo de yan guang shi ma</mandarin> once they realize that !wah! you're from a boys' home ah boys' town ah, uh, people are quick to judge lah you know mainly lah, even when I'm outside at work right they will start to ask eh what kind of job you do err what position you are then <mandarin>他们讲话又不会讲:ta men jiang hua you bu hui jiang</mandarin> hor <mandarin>对吗:dui ma</mandarin> in a normal conversation the first time you meet a person you don't ask this kind of stuff actually


but then <mandarin>新加坡人很多人是这样的:xin jia po ren hen duo ren shi zhe yang de</mandarin> you know why or not because they are impatient impatient of what impatient of making a decision on how to treat you based on your position your income the job you do ah so <mandarin>也不用这么急嘛对吗你要是真的认识我的话你花一点时间你根本就知道的:ye bu yong zhe me ji ma dui ma ni yao shi zhen de ren shi wo de hua ni hua yi dian shi jian ni gen ben jiu zhi dao de</mandarin> I find it quite quite quite impolite lah to do this kind of thing lah some of them even ask me the chinese new year question


you know the chinese new year questions


and, correct correct precisely but, correct but if they do it if they do it during chinese new year and is my relatives hor I can accept it you know


ya so


, human touch ah maybe I I tell you ah if it's really a lack of human touch hor <mandarin>他不会来跟我来讲话的你知道吗:ta bu hui lai gen wo lai jiang hua de ni zhi dao ma</mandarin> usually people who who are like what you described ah they would rather be with themselves and they are quite


then <mandarin>很笨拙地去问:hen ben zhuo de qu wen</mandarin> in a very clumsy manner, err so the the art of conversation is not there, they don't make you feel uncomfortable ya


err it's like one of the skills lor how to deal with people like that and situation like that


ya it takes some training lah I would say ah


uh so aging is one of the easiest thing to do in life


so aging is only worth a thing ah worth your sword ah, if the person is wise ah so it has to go in tantrum lor anthem lor not tantrum tantrum <mandarin>是小孩子发脾气:shi xiao hai zi fa pi qi</mandarin> anthem lah hor


in singapore right so the thing is not err


I'm not working I retired right I'm not working but you younger people are working you need the seat you been working very hard throughout the day, ya so <mandarin>他们的想法是这样新加坡没有啦新加坡我年纪这么大了我身体不舒服坐在那个:ta men de xiang fa shi zhe yang xin jia po mei you la xin jia po wo nian ji zhe me da liao wo shen ti bu shu fu zuo zai na ge</mandarin> reserved seat <mandarin>那个老年人都跑到来我面前啊真的:na ge lao nian ren dou pao dao lai wo mian qian a zhen de</mandarin> leh <mandarin>他就是靠近你:ta jiu shi kao jin ni</mandarin> leh <mandarin>站得很近:zhan de hen jin</mandarin> leh


ah just want to force you away from the seat lor, , actually <mandarin>那天我有:na tian wo you</mandarin> MC <mandarin>耶我应该:ye wo ying gai</mandarin> show <mandarin>他我的:ta wo de</mandarin> MC ah right I mean reserved seat is not just for injured person right for people who need it like one of the person who need it is people who feel ill mah or sick


ah


then <mandarin>还:hai</mandarin> hor <mandarin>他不知道有一样东西叫:ta bu zhi dao you yi yang dong xi jiao</mandarin> earpiece <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> hor


and the thing about singaporean is hor they are uncomfortable to voice out lor I noticed ah, I noticed that the entire carriage of, passengers ah, are affected by the noise lah it's like max volume lah because it's noisy mah the MRT travelling


so the person ah just play in, ha can you can you shut down your, your volume ah or can you use a earpiece ah


ah they are, discomfort by this hor this person hor, but they don't make noise hor <mandarin>很奇怪:hen qi guai</mandarin> leh,


is, different from other country in the sense that, we have so many people from other countries coming to singapore lah, ya to work do this and then they bring along


what they are used to in their home country, I, so, and because the culture here is the local people don't make err, or unwilling to voice out, so it becomes like you tend to see many things happening at the same time


that is not, complying to local culture lah I would say, but <mandarin>本地的:ben di de</mandarin> culture <mandarin>也未必是好有些也是很烂我觉得:ye wei bi shi hao you xie ye shi hen lan wo jue de</mandarin> so <mandarin>这个是一个很复杂的问题啊也没有说谁对谁错啦就是:zhe ge shi yi ge hen fu za de wen ti a ye mei you shuo shui dui shui cuo la jiu shi</mandarin> is just a fact lor it's just the way it is


it's like they they are ah relying on another person to do the job for them lah


hor once you've managed to fight the benefit for them or voice out on certain thing right, they will turn up to to gain the benefits lah


singapore maybe it's not such err, fertile ground ah for civic society, and just to promote all these ideas and err


behaviour, ,


uh


from year two thousand onwards ah we open a blockade then you see a lot of all these foreigners coming in lah


it's quite counter intuitive ah but actually it's true lah, as in younger generation got less problem from what I see and they are more knowledgeable and they're more understanding


like like COVID ah <mandarin>现在你看:xian zai ni kan</mandarin> COVID <mandarin>啊那些:a nei xie</mandarin> break rules <mandarin>的人:de ren</mandarin> hor younger people are less, ya because they understand what's going on, ah what's the rationale behind the regulation


young adults ya I see improvement lor over generations, so this is something err


globally ah you look at other societies like the more developed one ah they are also advancing from one generation to the next generation which I think should be the case ah


to get the same amount of living space right, put in more maybe twice the effort just to get the same amount of living space lor


okay I agree that BTO is getting smaller lah but this is the way it is lor the amount of space is finite, but the number of people is increasing so in order to do that right they have to cut down the size, okay


it gets smaller okay lah but at least don't jack up the price so much lor, ah, ,


okay it depends on where you want to set the reference point lor where you want to do the comparison lor, I can tell you that currently hor is better than twenty ten, twenty eight to twenty ten, or twenty five to twenty ten that time that time it really flies ah the price double in the open market


and then by twenty fifteen I think they did something to it lah because of the shortfall in the votes they get lah, so they did something to it you know transportation err housing okay this is a shorter term one ah you do the comparison between now and then it's about ten years ago so at least it's not getting worse it's not getting out of hand in fact you are you have higher chances of getting a flat now if you do a video application


like okay, the next thing is if you're going to push back the reference point ah, to maybe err, late eighties, or early nineteen nineties ah, which is about thirty five years ago


at that time hor late eighties right or mid eighties hor a delivery man ah, can afford to buy a four room flat


three kids which is my cousin lah the three kids, so <mandarin>那个时候的人可以做:na ge shi hou de ren ke yi zuo</mandarin> okay <mandarin>我现在问你啦现在:wo xian zai wen ni la xian zai</mandarin> the year twenty twenty


ah, cost of living has, has increased multifold ah so much that <mandarin>你根本就是已经:ni gen ben jiu shi yi jing</mandarin> price them out already


they are no longer in the picture if you are going to take take up that kind of job ah I don't think you can survive, err with that kind of lifestyle, or that ability lor to bring up a family, ya <mandarin>所以很多工作新加坡人不可以做咯现在不是他们不想做:suo yi hen duo gong zuo xin jia po ren bu ke yi zuo lo xian zai bu shi ta men bu xiang zuo</mandarin> leh <mandarin>是不可以做因为一做了:shi bu ke yi zuo yin wei yi zuo liao</mandarin> hor


once they do that job they stuck there ah they are not going to climb the ladder probably can only be satisfied with a two room or three room flats lor probably can only have max one to two kids only lor, ah


as a decent person hor it's not asking too much as a decent person


and then you don't see the quality improvement in quality of life ah, ya


it comes from how the society is structured it comes from the management of the society ya then all this social economical problems lah


all this social economical problems lah, or issues ah, ah there is a way to solve it lah it's just a matter of given a condition like are you willing to, to solve it are you willing to do a trade off and provide the price lor


for achieving that lor, ya so once again we it leads to another question lor, is not about not having a choice lor, is rather err about, which option to choose, and err are you which options ah once you choose right you need to do an allocation lor it's all about allocation of resources I tell you because resources is finite in society


and then you will have to see you have to see which one is top of your list ah, and allocate the resources to fulfill that lah, hor very fast hor


ah, ah as in why my parents is not as good as other parents


that no they can't provide me what, other parents can provide to their kids


eh eugene eugene, but <mandarin>你应该知道养狗其实不便宜的:ni ying gai zhi dao yang gou qi shi bu bian yi de</mandarin> leh


okay <mandarin>基本上:ji ben shang</mandarin> hor <mandarin>我可以:wo ke yi</mandarin> summarized <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> hor about <mandarin>养孩子:yang hai zi</mandarin> hor, if, the life I'm living hor


is not happy right, or it's not full of happiness lah why would I want to bring another life into this world and suffer the same fate fate as me ah


maybe in agricultural society lor


having kids or not having kids [orh] is about breeding lor <mandarin>就是生而已:jiu shi sheng er yi</mandarin> breeding the breeding is the society will take care of it ah is the natural natural law, but, modern society is different modern age


his individual responsibility, and certain people certain people choose not to have that because they feel that they can't live up to that responsibility, doesn't mean that having kid is not a good thing you just like well it could be


too, too far away from for them to reach home


then as to the rest hor <mandarin>可能:ke neng</mandarin> is not such a attractive notion


then they will come into the picture all these supplements and assistants ah


but for people who already, closed the idea of having kids hor I don't think it'll be such a pull factor for them to reverse the decision, ya, so that is what they are facing now lah I I mean the policymakers could be saying that eh I've all this assistance schemes then why don't I see the surge


in childbearing ah among the population, ya there's a reason behind it lah, right and the reason is [orh] because all this policy are supplementary, they were not they were not they're not something groundbreaking ah that will reverse your decision


(mmhmm) I'm not sure lah like because I'm not familiar with public policies, or public administrations, but I understand that certain things right if you are in the role ah they have to do something about it lor simply because the role requires it lah


but it doesn't mean that that's something being implemented is effective, it just means that they have to do it as a policymaker, that's it, as to whether it works or not uh that could be another criteria or another area for assessment


ah


UK germany


the population has a tendency to, backlash ah against the, regulation, cause they find that it interferes with personal freedom


like all these measures are in place to protect you like but why are you fighting against it, if you're a german you live in that society


probably you can understand lah why they are against and oppose the restrictions


suddenly, you put in a new sets of restrictions and rules ah that's totally different and against ah, their norm


their previous lifestyle, is too big a shock for them to accept, and then they have to implement it very fast because this is time sensitive right, ya there is no buffer for this sector of population to get acquainted


with err the west restriction and restraint, ya, extreme, two ends, against each other


this a question mark this a question mark on me ya


ah the first time do this, and then hor you you'll never know maybe if you if you tell a good story ah


they will accept your trial ah simply because they want to continue listening to the story ya


so where where did you get this from [ah] is it from (err) telegram, (uh) same [ah], ya I get it from telegram


yesterday you, eh don't eh can you stop laughing it's already start bro, okay you you you you you start okay, okay let's begin, err eh how how's you and denise


!oi! what you what you mean err


!wah! <mandarin>这样样好:zhe yang yang hao</mandarin> ah then uh ya just say just say, sore throat okay lah that's nice lah then then <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> then <mandarin>我打这样长不是没有用到:wo da zhe yang chang bu shi mei you yong dao</mandarin> hurt my feeling


ya lor eh <mandarin>那个那个全部是我自己:na ge na ge quan bu shi wo zi ji</mandarin> type <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> leh <mandarin>不是去:bu shi qu</mandarin> google copy paste leh, ya no, ya lah but I mean you my brother so I, must be kind to you ah, but I I think <mandarin>你是在跟我:ni shi zai gen wo</mandarin> fake fake lah hor


ya !whoa! best friend with me best friend with me eh stop lying bro, oh <mandarin>没有:mei you</mandarin> fake fake ah !huh! <mandarin>可是我觉得你们这种女孩子:ke shi wo jue de ni men zhe zhong nv hai zi</mandarin> hor <mandarin>讲话好像骗人这样的:jiang hua hao xiang pian ren zhe yang de</mandarin> leh,


but for me I also <mandarin>真心:zhen xin</mandarin> lah I don't lie ah I mean you you call me brother I just brother you ah unless you want to lie to me ah <mandarin>那样子我就没有话讲:na yang zi wo jiu mei you hua jiang</mandarin> lah, ya okay lah then you better not lie to me ah cause you know err I err


you know what happen to me ah cause you you don't you don't force me , no lah I won't lah <mandarin>我现在现在是很开心的人了:wo xian zai xian zai shi hen kai xin de ren le</mandarin> like last time Kena all those stuff is okay lah like Kena cheat and stuff it's fine


then <mandarin>你前几天七夕你跟她做么:ni qian ji tian qi xi ni gen ta zuo me</mandarin> video call


like, like, ya, the early monday ya eh but monday but now friday already leh are you high mate,


ya like like since you all so far apart like must do something to err you know , maintain the relationship mah


you know what I'm saying, then you all you all never do anything like you all you all just chit chat lah, ya ya video call eh I love you you love me


ya, , eh talk leh


(mmhmm), !wah! then <mandarin>那样子就好:na yang zi jiu hao</mandarin> lah


like cause, from what I know ah like <mandarin>有有的我的朋友也是:you you de wo de peng you ye shi</mandarin> like <mandarin>他们:ta men</mandarin> <mandarin>人远谈恋爱:ren yuan tan lian ai</mandarin> ya like <mandarin>也是很难:ye shi hen nan</mandarin> lah I also understand lah but, good to know you all like still, in a good relationship


(hmm), err, like, because you, like you see this is the thing ah like


he is from china lah okay, then the girlfriend after that, like they they get to know each other in singapore ah


like cause cause her result quite good mah then she planned to go UK lah, then <mandarin>我的朋友就:wo de peng you jiu</mandarin> like like <mandarin>很:hen</mandarin> sad lah like, I mean although he's sad lah but, the girl must do it for her future mah like <mandarin>因为去英国那个大学也是不错:yin wei qu ying guo na ge da xue ye shi bu cuo</mandarin> what


ya as compared to singapore then some more the family also wants her to go, to go UK ah then the girl go to UK lor (ppc), then <mandarin>一开始:yi kai shi</mandarin> like like <mandarin>他们两个也是很:ta men liang ge ye shi hen</mandarin> sad ah but they say to each other say what err what they say ah like !wah! <mandarin>我们要要:wo men yao yao</mandarin> like <mandarin>要等互相:yao deng hu xiang</mandarin> ah <mandarin>还是什么:hai shi shen me</mandarin> like


ya then <mandarin>一开始就:yi kai shi jiu</mandarin> like <mandarin>两个人讲到很好:liang ge ren jiang dao hen hao</mandarin> lor <mandarin>讲什么:jiang shen me</mandarin> err, err <mandarin>到时:dao shi</mandarin> like <mandarin>我们就是分开也是没有关系的:wo men jiu shi fen kai ye shi mei you guan xi de</mandarin> mah like <mandarin>分开分开这样远可是感情不会变:fen kai fen kai zhe yang yuan ke shi gan qing bu hui bian</mandarin> lah like say all say all those things ah like those sweet talk lah but


you see you see here's the thing lah like


but <mandarin>如果那个女孩子遇到困难还是:ru guo na ge nv hai zi yu dao kun nan hai shi</mandarin> like like she feels sad then she Kena bully and stuff right, then the the guy cannot be there to help her mah, like <mandarin>只是可以打电话讲:zhi shi ke yi da dian hua jiang</mandarin> oh like , eh like chit chat and stuff lah but


ya then the girl, ya then just sad right then it is kind of my my friend Kena the <mandarin>绿帽子:lv mao zi</mandarin> lah something like that lah


cause the cause the girl cause the girl didn't tell my friend lah because I also know the girl mah, like, like sometimes I really don't know ah is it for me to understand them the work sia, I cause you you know in err


you know in a foreign country is, quite difficult lah like sometimes you Kena, if you Kena bully and stuff then like, you would you want to be dependent like you want to rely on your boyfriend but your boyfriend so far away


like I I don't know if you understand ah I'm sure you do cause, but the thing is like like if you all like decide to have like a


so long distance relationship right, like you all you all must you all must be prepared for like the outcome <mandarin>你们自己要接受那个后果:ni men zi ji yao jie shou na ge hou guo</mandarin> lah, like <mandarin>就是:jiu shi</mandarin> like <mandarin>你们你们要很成熟:ni men ni men yao hen cheng shu</mandarin> lor <mandarin>讲:jiang</mandarin> lor <mandarin>如果你你你生活里收到什么委屈呀被别人骂还是什么:ru guo ni ni ni sheng huo li shou dao shen me wei qu ya bei bie ren ma hai shi shen me</mandarin> like <mandarin>我我不会我没有办法在你身边:wo wo bu hui wo mei you ban fa zai ni shen bian</mandarin> mah


like you all can only meet like a few times a year, then that's like good you know I mean


like <mandarin>你搭一个飞机两个钟就到他那边了还是他他过来也是一样:ni da yi ge fei ji liang ge zhong jiu dao ta na bian le hai shi ta ta guo lai ye shi yi yang</mandarin> mah, is


ya so , ya lah, ya lah like he like <mandarin>如果他们有钱的话就没有什么:ru guo ta men you qian de hua jiu mei you shen me</mandarin> lah like like <mandarin>花一个几千块:hua yi ge ji qian kuai</mandarin> like then <mandarin>他们开心一下就:ta men kai xin yi xia jiu</mandarin> okay lah but the thing is


like <mandarin>不可以一直飞过去:bu ke yi yi zhi fei guo qu</mandarin> then <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> Zha-Bor then <mandarin>他的:ta de</mandarin> Zha-Bor <mandarin>也是不可以飞回来:ye shi bu ke yi fei hui lai</mandarin> then


ya, ya lah then ya that that's the thing lah then <mandarin>那个女的:na ge nv de</mandarin> her like I mean she's not a bad girl lah but, like, don't know lah I don't know what to say like


because in the end of the day right she still cheat on my friend like that but like both of them my friend leh


ya, then ya then she cheat on my friend then, I don't know, !aiya! don't know how but


ya, very realistic you know but okay lah


but now I think the good thing is like <mandarin>你跟你的男朋友比较靠近:ni gen ni de nan peng you bi jiao kao jin</mandarin> lor so that's the good part lah, like <mandarin>你们你们两个见面:ni men ni men liang ge jian mian</mandarin> like happy happy <mandarin>一下也是不会花很多钱:yi xia ye shi bu hui hua hen duo qian</mandarin> mah, ya


ya, ya, ya but now the COVID, ya


ya lor, ya lor, ya I'm I'm sure you miss him


(ppc), ya you got cry for him or not, like <mandarin>好像他:hao xiang ta</mandarin>


(ppc), ya I understand,


, (mmhmm), oh really


ya, ya <mandarin>我看现在情况也是比较好了:wo kan xian zai qing kuang ye shi bi jiao hao le</mandarin> mah then


I think very fast you and your boyfriend can meet, ya your dennis Wu !huh!


okay lor, oh, ya then after that <mandarin>有有讲要换那个:you you jiang yao huan na ge</mandarin> policy <mandarin>有没有开不懂什么事:you mei you kai bu dong shen me shi</mandarin> leh


(mmhmm),


ya so must both country they must compromise and stuff, but I really want to go JB is cause you know the food there very cheap and stuff then


like I used to go go there and shop with my friend like Shiok sia, ya, like there is one shopping mall there you know right where city square mall is it


ya, ya ya but over there still kind of scam lah !huh! cause it's just so damn near then, it's like they just set the price err some sort of higher lor, cause it's like <mandarin>很多新加坡人去那边:hen duo xin jia po ren qu na bian</mandarin> mah


, you know KL ah KL <mandarin>我就没有去到过:wo jiu mei you qu dao guo</mandarin> leh, eh, ya but I heard, I heard right, if you want like you like to eat and stuff ah mah


like, the Penang ah, I got cause err


!wah!, really ah


okay, okay, then how about you you just share like how you all get to know each other and stuff, like mah <mandarin>想知道:xiang zhi dao</mandarin> lor


ya since oh best friend me best friend me and then you know I trust you you trust me and then might as well just share you know, okay lor then you then you just share lah,


(mmhmm)


(mmhmm), oh !wow! damn bro !woohoo!