!wah! then you say like that confirm damn loud sia, !aiya!


ya let's just err gamble on it, okay talking about gambling ah <mandarin>你最喜欢:ni zui xi huan</mandarin> err <mandarin>赌什么种游戏:du shen me zhong you xi</mandarin> what kind of gamble do you love the most,


don't want to use it as a machine learning <mandarin>让他们:rang ta men</mandarin> decide lor


ya lah it doesn't matter, maybe <mandarin>那个听的人会很:na ge ting de ren hui hen</mandarin> Sian lor, but I think


err learning err software or whatever it is, ya lah actually no point lah but just to entertain <mandarin>我们自己:wo men zi ji</mandarin> lah , <mandarin>不是:bu shi</mandarin> entertain <mandarin>我们自己:wo men zi ji</mandarin> meh


I think <mandarin>是不会:shi bu hui</mandarin> leh I think <mandarin>重点是他要:zhong dian shi ta yao</mandarin> catch <mandarin>得到我们在讲什么:de dao wo men zai jiang shen me</mandarin> like <mandarin>我们讲我们:wo men jiang wo men</mandarin> the way <mandarin>我们:wo men</mandarin> pronounce <mandarin>我们的华文字还是英文字要很:wo men de hua wen zi hai shi ying wen zi yao hen</mandarin> clear


makes sense, not bad not bad


ah <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> lor <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> lor, but I think machine, these machine learning hor <mandarin>是要:shi yao</mandarin> differentiate <mandarin>什么字是英文:shen me zi shi ying wen</mandarin> what word is english or what word is chinese then <mandarin>如果他:ru guo ta</mandarin> differentiate


(uh huh), oh ya <mandarin>这样的话:zhe yang de hua</mandarin> oh ya actually make sense ah, but <mandarin>因为:yin wei</mandarin> hor <mandarin>我去读那个:wo qu du na ge</mandarin> requirement <mandarin>他是讲:ta shi jiang</mandarin> strictly speaking english or chinese <mandarin>而已或者是:er yi huo zhe shi</mandarin> english with tamil <mandarin>而已或者是:er yi huo zhe shi</mandarin> english with err


err <mandarin>好像是:hao xiang shi</mandarin> lah I not very sure sia oh dear


I don't know leh <mandarin>我是觉得是对的:wo shi jue de shi dui de</mandarin> lah we just keep to this lor just now the video I watch they say <mandarin>有不同有:you bu tong you</mandarin> code switching hor <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> when within <mandarin>一个:yi ge</mandarin> sentence <mandarin>有华文有:you hua wen you</mandarin> english but then what people think codes


ah <mandarin>应该是:ying gai shi</mandarin> lor


the context right <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> content, okay lah so <mandarin>我们现在要不要:wo men xian zai yao bu yao</mandarin> move on to the next topic


okay next <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> instantly master three new skills ah, okay <mandarin>来你讲先:lai ni jiang xian</mandarin> lah, ah


okay lah okay so master <mandarin>三个新的:san ge xin de</mandarin> skills the first skill <mandarin>我想:wo xiang</mandarin> master


[orh] <mandarin>可以:ke yi</mandarin> ah <mandarin>可以:ke yi</mandarin> ah, ya, okay


okay <mandarin>讲笑话:jiang xiao hua</mandarin> ah <mandarin>我是:wo shi</mandarin> master the skill of <mandarin>赚钱:zhuan qian</mandarin> you know, , okay okay wait wait wait


what is the method ah to like, I think <mandarin>这点这点是最重要的:zhe dian zhe dian shi zui zhong yao de</mandarin> lah


err <mandarin>教课的时候你可以一个小时就赚:jiao ke de shi hou ni ke yi yi ge xiao shi jiu zhuan</mandarin> fifty dollar, then, let's say


ya, wait wait wait did you hear that, ya ya ya okay okay so let's carry on okay so


then <mandarin>我朋友问我:wo peng you wen wo</mandarin> coding <mandarin>的东西还是:de dong xi hai shi</mandarin> err <mandarin>我的:wo de</mandarin> client <mandarin>问我:wen wo</mandarin> coding <mandarin>的东西:de dong xi</mandarin> then <mandarin>我帮不了:wo bang bu liao</mandarin> so at least <mandarin>对我来说是你有一点点:dui wo lai shuo shi ni you yi dian dian</mandarin> coding <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> knowledge <mandarin>你读得了那个:ni du de liao na ge</mandarin> language then <mandarin>可以:ke yi</mandarin> help you very far lah can go very far in life


ya so <mandarin>那个是我想要学的第一个:na ge shi wo xiang yao xue de di yi ge</mandarin> skill then what about you


ya that's true, eh I can hear myself sia, uh, no is I think <mandarin>是你那边的:shi ni na bian de</mandarin> feedback


[orh] <mandarin>你那边没有:ni na bian mei you</mandarin> speaker lah, okay lah <mandarin>可能是可能是:ke neng shi ke neng shi</mandarin> err some, technical err crash <mandarin>还是什么:hai shi shen me</mandarin> !aiya! <mandarin>不用紧:bu yong jin</mandarin> lah never mind lah


laughter ah, I think <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> consistent, same


<mandarin>你觉得我们:ni jue de wo men</mandarin> juke <mandarin>得了那个:de liao na ge</mandarin> machine meh actually I think <mandarin>可以:ke yi</mandarin> leh


like for example leh


ya lor that's true that's true, but <mandarin>现在:xian zai</mandarin> hor I think <mandarin>我不知道他们会:wo bu zhi dao ta men hui</mandarin> manually <mandarin>看我们的:kan wo men de</mandarin> err voice recording then <mandarin>才:cai</mandarin> determine


trial test


ya this better


[orh], actually hor, since <mandarin>现在都会有人听到我们的声音了:xian zai dou hui you ren ting dao wo men de sheng yin le</mandarin> then let's just try to promote ourselves and get ourselves hired actually why not sia <mandarin>我们现在两个都是:wo men xian zai liang ge dou shi</mandarin> unemployed might as well you know try to you know sell ourself on this platform then Sekali <mandarin>等一下他们:deng yi xia ta men</mandarin> contact <mandarin>我们:wo men</mandarin> leh !wah! <mandarin>我们一下子就找到工了:wo men yi xia zi jiu zhao dao gong le</mandarin> !wah! okay <mandarin>来来来我先:lai lai lai wo xian</mandarin> okay <mandarin>我讲我的:wo jiang wo de</mandarin> credentials <mandarin>先:xian</mandarin> lah okay


cheapest as possible ah


ah then err <mandarin>我也是:wo ye shi</mandarin> err widely certified data analyst ah <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> err <mandarin>如果你们需要人家来帮你们:ru guo ni men xu yao ren jia lai bang ni men</mandarin> you know err create machine learning <mandarin>的那种:de na zhong</mandarin> err module ah <mandarin>还是那种:hai shi na zhong</mandarin> err model ah <mandarin>你来找我:ni lai zhao wo</mandarin> okay


ah ya on top of that <mandarin>我会一点点:wo hui yi dian dian</mandarin> photoshop err Adobe premier pro <mandarin>我会:wo hui</mandarin> web web development


ya sia Sekali <mandarin>他真的打过来给我一个工作:ta zhen de da guo lai gei wo yi ge gong zuo</mandarin> !wah! I damn happy sia


[orh] <mandarin>我忘记什么了:wo wang ji shen me le</mandarin> sia


ah <mandarin>好像是:hao xiang shi</mandarin> if I'm not wrong lah


, !wah! brother sia #yao kuan# !wah! <mandarin>真的是:zhen de shi</mandarin> brother <mandarin>为我着想我的:wei wo zhao xiang wo de</mandarin> brother


!hannor! !hannor!, powerful powerful stuff, !wah! <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> imagine hor <mandarin>一百年:yi bai nian</mandarin> from now lah !wah! how will the world be like


, but either way <mandarin>这个是:zhe ge shi</mandarin> trial <mandarin>这个是:zhe ge shi</mandarin> trial so maybe ah maybe <mandarin>有人会在听:you ren hui zai ting</mandarin> then <mandarin>他们会:ta men hui</mandarin> like <mandarin>我刚才讲:wo gang cai jiang</mandarin> lah then <mandarin>会:hui</mandarin> cut ah hopefully <mandarin>是会:shi hui</mandarin> lah


so #yao kuan# what's your <mandarin>第二个:di er ge</mandarin> skill that <mandarin>你想要:ni xiang yao</mandarin> master


[orh] static ah, oh I think <mandarin>是我把我的:shi wo ba wo de</mandarin> handphone <mandarin>放在那个:fang zai na ge</mandarin> laptop then <mandarin>他出:ta chu</mandarin> static


ya lor ya lor make sense make sense, , okay <mandarin>来现在要讲我要想:lai xian zai yao jiang wo yao xiang</mandarin> master <mandarin>的第二个:de di er ge</mandarin> skill, err, I think <mandarin>我第二个:wo di er ge</mandarin> skills, is somewhat similar to <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> lah


like <mandarin>我之前有读到一本书是叫做:wo zhi qian you du dao yi ben shu shi jiao zuo</mandarin> err how to influence and persuade people <mandarin>你有听过那本书:ni you ting guo na ben shu</mandarin> mah


err scenario


okay lah <mandarin>我跟:wo gen</mandarin> #yao kuan# <mandarin>有一个:you yi ge</mandarin> err code words <mandarin>是叫:shi jiao</mandarin> err new year's eve


err a day in the year in the year <mandarin>所以对:suo yi dui</mandarin> computer <mandarin>来讲这个不是一个很好笑的:lai jiang zhe ge bu shi yi ge hen hao xiao de</mandarin> topic


err <mandarin>是一个很好笑的:shi yi ge hen hao xiao de</mandarin> joke lah


ya,


, make sense make sense, ya I think <mandarin>差不多都是:cha bu duo dou shi</mandarin> the same lah,


oh


chef ah !wah! <mandarin>所以你是比较喜欢:suo yi ni shi bi jiao xi huan</mandarin> err you like to, you know, express <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> creativity express <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> err idea then <mandarin>把你的:ba ni de</mandarin> idea <mandarin>放在:fang zai</mandarin> plate <mandarin>上面:shang mian</mandarin> then <mandarin>给人家:gei ren jia</mandarin> taste <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> creativity


by then hor


!hais!, my turn ah <mandarin>第三个:di san ge</mandarin> skills ah, err, err, fitness <mandarin>算不算:suan bu suan</mandarin> skills ah fitness


I think, okay I think <mandarin>现在给我最想学的:xian zai gei wo zui xiang xue de</mandarin> skill <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> designing, cause <mandarin>因为:yin wei</mandarin> err <mandarin>我现在身为一个:wo xian zai shen wei yi ge</mandarin> web developer <mandarin>你只是懂那个:ni zhi shi dong na ge</mandarin> integration <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> part <mandarin>你不懂怎么样:ni bu dong zen me yang</mandarin> design design <mandarin>到最后也是需要:dao zui hou ye shi xu yao</mandarin> human touch


err just leave it to <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> machine <mandarin>还是:hai shi</mandarin> leave it to <mandarin>那个电脑来:na ge dian nao lai</mandarin> decide, and err


ya <mandarin>你可以:ni ke yi</mandarin> master, being aesthetic <mandarin>是一个很简单的事:shi yi ge hen jian dan de shi</mandarin> lah


err the skill of designing the skill of err, to have a keen eye lah, uh <mandarin>这个对我来说是一个很重要的东西:zhe ge dui wo lai shuo shi yi ge hen zhong yao de dong xi</mandarin> then also in a way, if I know how to look out for aesthetic stuff


ya so


that's true


Sushi #kor kor# <mandarin>你看他的:ni kan ta de</mandarin> content <mandarin>现在:xian zai</mandarin> ah <mandarin>每一天都是每一天的:mei yi tian dou shi mei yi tian de</mandarin> content hor <mandarin>虽然是有一点一样:sui ran shi you yi dian yi yang</mandarin> lah but then, err the views keep going up <mandarin>每天都是有新的人在那边看在那边:mei tian dou shi you xin de ren zai na bian kan zai na bian</mandarin> err <mandarin>在那边:zai na bian</mandarin> watch <mandarin>我是觉得:wo shi jue de</mandarin> that way


context, !hannor!, but then hor, but <mandarin>我刚才读那个:wo gang cai du na ge</mandarin> prompt hor <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> prompt <mandarin>是讲:shi jiang</mandarin> you may start <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> conversation with the following prompts but then <mandarin>不是:bu shi</mandarin> compulsory


!wah! <mandarin>你听得到吗听得到那个:ni ting de dao ma ting de dao na ge</mandarin> motorcycle okay anyway


[orh], oh ya hor oh ya hor oh shit, , [orh] <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> hor <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> hor <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> hor


oh shit, eh if anybody is listening to this transcript err I'm sorry, err let me know if the rest of the let me know if the rest of the sentence ah <mandarin>可以用如果其他的:ke yi yong ru guo qi ta de</mandarin> part <mandarin>我的:wo de</mandarin> recording <mandarin>可以用的话你让我知道:ke yi yong de hua ni rang wo zhi dao</mandarin> which part <mandarin>可以:ke yi</mandarin> which part <mandarin>不可以:bu ke yi</mandarin> then <mandarin>我们:wo men</mandarin> err can try again you know there's always room for improvement


ah, ya,


err <mandarin>我对我来说是我想:wo dui wo lai shuo shi wo xiang</mandarin> master <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> convincing <mandarin>的那个:de na ge</mandarin> part lah


the way <mandarin>我会去:wo hui qu</mandarin> master <mandarin>的话就是我会每天:de hua jiu shi wo hui mei tian</mandarin> practice lor <mandarin>就是每天跟人讲话每天:jiu shi mei tian gen ren jiang hua mei tian</mandarin> try to


err <mandarin>的一个东西:de yi ge dong xi</mandarin> lah, ya


, eh <mandarin>如果我每天这样子问的话每天有人给的话:ru guo wo mei tian zhe yang zi wen de hua mei tian you ren gei de hua</mandarin> why not, !wah! <mandarin>我每天下去楼下问:wo mei tian xia qu lou xia wen</mandarin> eh bro Abang <mandarin>你有十块钱:ni you shi kuai qian</mandarin> mah


are we better than that are we, !hais!


<mandarin>我不懂得怎么样:wo bu dong de zen me yang</mandarin> judge lor <mandarin>我是觉得:wo shi jue de</mandarin> based on <mandarin>人家给的:ren jia gei de</mandarin> feedback lah


err <mandarin>有:you</mandarin> improvement lor, on the route to mastering Liao


, [orh] <mandarin>我的是五十二分钟:wo de shi wu shi er fen zhong</mandarin> thirty five seconds


sure sure <mandarin>来我们来看下一个:lai wo men lai kan xia yi ge</mandarin> topic, err looks good or fit body ah,


cat <mandarin>还是:hai shi</mandarin> dog person, !hanna! actually <mandarin>那个也是很:na ge ye shi hen</mandarin> boring, err


, okay okay, ya ya ya


!hannor! !hannor!, <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> boss


ah


W eh !wah! <mandarin>蛮:man</mandarin> sexy <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> leh,


eh


oh


[orh], !wah! <mandarin>如果他做:ru guo ta zuo</mandarin> office job <mandarin>的话又不会:de hua you bu hui</mandarin> excel <mandarin>会有一点:hui you yi dian</mandarin> lag behind leh


but <mandarin>他是会:ta shi hui</mandarin> english <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> ah, !aiya! <mandarin>他是会:ta shi hui</mandarin> english <mandarin>的话去:de hua qu</mandarin> Youtube <mandarin>看:kan</mandarin> lah Youtube <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> search how to use excel tutorial <mandarin>就出来了:jiu chu lai le</mandarin> what


then <mandarin>到现在还是一直:dao xian zai hai shi yi zhi</mandarin> you know <mandarin>我帮她写:wo bang ta xie</mandarin> email <mandarin>这些:zhe xie</mandarin> !aiya! so at the end of the day <mandarin>也是要看个人肯不肯学也是要看个人学都学不了因为:ye shi yao kan ge ren ken bu ken xue ye shi yao kan ge ren xue dou xue bu liao yin wei</mandarin> technology <mandarin>都是很难学的:dou shi hen nan xue de</mandarin> what


(mmhmm), !hannor!, !hais!


[orh] <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> hor, ya actually <mandarin>我也是蛮:wo ye shi man</mandarin> hungry <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> eh I think err we should reward ourself after this lah !wah! <mandarin>这个真的很:zhe ge zhen de hen</mandarin> shag sia


I don't know leh <mandarin>我现在是在:wo xian zai shi zai</mandarin> fifty eight minutes <mandarin>三十七秒:san shi qi miao</mandarin> then <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> leh


[orh] I think <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> pet maybe two minutes, [orh] <mandarin>你那边是:ni na bian shi</mandarin> three minute ah


err okay lah, no no no no no no later <mandarin>他听到我的声音就不要:ta ting dao wo de sheng yin jiu bu yao</mandarin> hire <mandarin>我了:wo le</mandarin>


#dim sum# ah


company treat,


(uh huh), [orh] <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> [lah] <mandarin>就是我:jiu shi wo</mandarin> send <mandarin>给你的那个:gei ni de na ge</mandarin> [lor]


ah so <mandarin>现在我:xian zai wo</mandarin> clap ah


did you clap, !huh! okay <mandarin>可以:ke yi</mandarin> err <mandarin>我现在:wo xian zai</mandarin> connect <mandarin>我的:wo de</mandarin> speaker <mandarin>我的:wo de</mandarin> bluetooth headset


okay hello hello hello can you hear me yes okay all good okay, so <mandarin>我们:wo men</mandarin> just <mandarin>现在立刻开始:xian zai li ke kai shi</mandarin> [bah]


err survive, okay so you know any thoughts


, (mmhmm), is that all you have to say on this topic


(mmhmm), (mmhmm), , , okay


eh eh <mandarin>会到了一段时间就是我们就全部的我们人类现在做的东西就可以被:hui dao le yi duan shi jian jiu shi wo men jiu quan bu de wo men ren lei xian zai zuo de dong xi jiu ke yi bei</mandarin> err <mandarin>科技所谓的:ke ji suo wei de</mandarin> replaced [bah], <mandarin>如如果到了这个地步:ru ru guo dao le zhe ge di bu</mandarin> I also feel that


uh is is basically based on our creativity at this point you know <mandarin>我是觉得科技:wo shi jue de ke ji</mandarin> err <mandarin>很厉害做样样的东西但有些东西是他们目前是不够好:hen li hai zuo yang yang de dong xi dan you xie dong xi shi ta men mu qian shi bu gou hao</mandarin> for example I do think that you know


err simple things like let's say err, fixing a pipe or fixing toilet or you know this kind of simple but, very err draining, err kind of activity or work I I still think that you know the


technology is not there yet to replace what err humans are currently doing so <mandarin>如果是以我来讲我是会觉得如果人类不需没有必要做工没有必要赚钱我是会觉得:ru guo shi yi wo lai jiang wo shi hui jue de ru guo ren lei bu xu mei you bi yao zuo gong mei you bi yao zhuan qian wo shi hui jue de</mandarin> err is best that we still


keep err improving on ourselves especially in terms of creativity where you know err if you can always just err design a new you know, whatever we have err website and or shoot a new movie these kind of things that keep adding value


to <mandarin>我们的社会:wo men de she hui</mandarin> which I I think that you know currently the technology is not there or cannot be replaced, , (uh huh)


, <mandarin>也有道理也有道理:ye you dao li ye you dao li</mandarin> but I guess the question is also what we will do you know what personally will you do if we don't have to work


or in fact <mandarin>我觉得那个:wo jue de na ge</mandarin> conversation <mandarin>也是能提到:ye shi neng ti dao</mandarin> you know whether or not it's even err you know whether we should work, or whether or not we have to work


I mean of course <mandarin>理所当然现在我们是一定要做工:li suo dang ran xian zai wo men shi yi ding yao zuo gong</mandarin> lah but I guess also the question is whether or not, should work even be, a thing,


not true I think that even though okay <mandarin>我们现在的社会是:wo men xian zai de she hui shi</mandarin> based off the idea that we are working to earn money or working to survive I think that most people


cannot err imagine a scenario where you know <mandarin>真的是钱:zhen de shi qian</mandarin> is not a thing neither is it a problem or a issue and whether when we have so much to go around that you know


like improve on <mandarin>我们自己的:wo men zi ji de</mandarin> so I think that even if we don't have to work to survive even if you don't have to work for money or anything I still think that you know we should find some work that gives err person err purpose lah


, me ah I guess you know, uh , that's a very interesting question okay


off the top of my head lah <mandarin>我是会想要做:wo shi hui xiang yao zuo</mandarin> either <mandarin>一个:yi ge</mandarin> stand up comedian, yes because because I I do think that for now


err you know this kind of content creation err it adds value that I think that you know <mandarin>科:ke</mandarin> ah eh <mandarin>你的那边好像一点声音:ni de na bian hao xiang yi dian sheng yin</mandarin> leh, I don't know but there's like a


static yes, , nope now this is better <mandarin>这样比较好了:zhe yang bi jiao hao le</mandarin> okay, err true true okay so back to the topic yes err I I will think that being a Youtube content creator or you know a comedian in this case I think it adds value


<mandarin>反而我是觉得我们的:fan er wo shi jue de wo men de</mandarin> ideals <mandarin>就有点:jiu you dian</mandarin> err <mandarin>不同吧我是会觉得:bu tong ba wo shi hui jue de</mandarin> because of you know technology, err I think that as of now you know coding is still a lot of err instructions based on <mandarin>我们怎么跟电脑来沟通跟他讲:wo men zen me gen dian nao lai gou tong gen ta jiang</mandarin> exactly <mandarin>我们需要做的东西不只跟他做不只跟他讲我们需要做的东西而且我们要跟他沟通用他的语言来沟通:wo men xu yao zuo de dong xi bu zhi gen ta zuo bu zhi gen ta jiang wo men xu yao zuo de dong xi er qie wo men yao gen ta gou tong yong ta de yu yan lai gou tong</mandarin> but I think in the next few years I think that you know in terms of coding I I think that


err you might you know with what we're doing now <mandarin>你还有可能是:ni hai you ke neng shi</mandarin> err <mandarin>我们就用我们的语言用英文用华文来跟电脑来讲而而他会自己帮我们:wo men jiu yong wo men de yu yan yong ying wen yong hua wen lai gen dian nao lai jiang er er ta hui zi ji bang wo men</mandarin> translate


you know in the next ten to fifteen years maybe, and then it will translate into whatever we need to get done and you know that's all the value that we as humans are adding already so for example you know in <mandarin>十五年后:shi wu nian hou</mandarin> maybe <mandarin>我们会跟我们的:wo men hui gen wo men de</mandarin> Samsung smart fridge <mandarin>跟他讲:gen ta jiang</mandarin> err <mandarin>帮我们叫:bang wo men jiao</mandarin> Grab food <mandarin>还是:hai shi</mandarin> order err you know on Red mart or whatever


and then the instruction gets translated into machine code already, you know so I think our value as human beings you know in terms of technology I think that's a peak already that's where we stop adding value


in the next fifteen years maybe like we'll tell our Samsung smart fridge err to order from Grab food or whatever, and the question becomes not what we can do with it, you know it's not, what can I order or what platform can I use can I order Grab food can I order Red mart using whatever technology but it becomes what we order from that


you see what I'm trying to say, ya so so it still depends on the, personal err <mandarin>创意:chuang yi</mandarin> your creativity where we can still decide, err what we want or how we want to see it


and then it just becomes a matter of, translating that into the machine code which I think in the in the near future err <mandarin>还有可能我们有看到这个发展:hai you ke neng wo men you kan dao zhe ge fa zhan</mandarin> [bah]


, ah, why


!huh!, oh jesus you should have told me that earlier my boy


, pick up on <mandarin>我们讲的话:wo men jiang de hua</mandarin> lah, which actually <mandarin>我看那个线:wo kan na ge xian</mandarin> err it looks like it's recording lor okay so


I did not know I was supposed to be looking at the recording all along I was just holding as close to me as possible, I think it's fine [bah] let's just gamble on it


let's just gamble on it lah, ,


actually speaking of this right <mandarin>你不会觉得很:ni bu hui jue de hen</mandarin> interesting meh like why does it care whether or not our conversation is interesting, it doesn't, so <mandarin>你是觉:ni shi jue</mandarin> so you think that you know someone is still transcribing at first is it


, true true so what's the purpose of making it interesting


is it, so you don't think that wait no no no the question is don't you think that you know whether the, whether the conversation is boring or interesting <mandarin>会:hui</mandarin> affect <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> machine meh


, alright alright, that kind of make sense <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> but <mandarin>我是觉得:wo shi jue de</mandarin> what the speech is I think it matters lah I think that you know if the data set is completely like boring like <mandarin>你今天吃了吗我吃了:ni jin tian chi le ma wo chi le</mandarin> what did you eat I ate this and this and this I think it's going to affect the machine with the machine learning lah


I think also the sentence that we speak also matters because I think it will be skewed lah imagine if we just keep speaking in like short sentences like one word two word kind of replies


compared to like a long ass paragraph, (uh huh), err what were we saying


but don't you think that there are better ways to pick up on english and chinese


like instead of, excuse me instead of like our conversation, I think if is the case where it's really just to detect, whether is english or chinese I think like <mandarin>如果:ru guo</mandarin> record separate <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> conversation in english and chinese respectively I think <mandarin>会比较好:hui bi jiao hao</mandarin> ah


I think the purpose is just to detect singlish, ya <mandarin>不会:bu hui</mandarin> meh ya


so there's no but the requirements did say something like fifty percent to ninety percent singlish right english with singlish, and then your mother tongue, oh dear so what if we're doing this whole thing wrong


but they didn't specify <mandarin>那个英文是什么种的英文:na ge ying wen shi shen me zhong de ying wen</mandarin> ah whether or not is perfect english or <mandarin>可以用:ke yi yong</mandarin> singlish


ya so so I think I think is whether or not the to pick up on the singlish patterns lah, ya so you know that being said I think the what you actually say I think it also matters


ya the content itself like imagine if <mandarin>我们一直讲:wo men yi zhi jiang</mandarin> like yes or no yes or no then kind of defeats the purpose lah, ya


!oops! sorry I just dropped my microphone, yes let's move on, okay, yup


instantly master three new skills ah


okay lah, okay why not right, take turns lor <mandarin>你先讲一个:ni xian jiang yi ge</mandarin> skill <mandarin>然后我就开始讲一个:ran hou wo jiu kai shi jiang yi ge</mandarin> skill


okay so <mandarin>你先开始:ni xian kai shi</mandarin> [bah]


, master <mandarin>我就开始笑先:wo jiu kai shi xiao xian</mandarin> lah master the skill of <mandarin>赚钱怎么讲:zhuan qian zen me jiang</mandarin> leh


okay, okay


okay <mandarin>你是说的是:ni shi shuo de shi</mandarin> digital marketing <mandarin>这些:zhe xie</mandarin> mah


okay, okay okay


yup I heard it


I think err the question is quite interesting, instantly if you could instantly master three new skills what will it be


I think that's a very good skill to have, err whether it's in a discussion or whether is negotiation


to see my point of view and to kind of convince them, I think ya I think I will want to master that, first


err okay <mandarin>打个比方来来讲如果我能真的真的正确的:da ge bi fang lai lai jiang ru guo wo neng zhen de zhen de zheng que de</mandarin> master <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> skill imagine imagine <mandarin>我去跟:wo qu gen</mandarin> err


then <mandarin>我跟他讲:wo gen ta jiang</mandarin> can you give me a million dollars and I can you know persuade him to do that or you know why even stop at jeff bezos err <mandarin>都根本都不用提到钱:dou gen ben dou bu yong ti dao qian</mandarin> err let's say <mandarin>我们讲房子讲车:wo men jiang fang zi jiang che</mandarin> or anything that you know we can think of then <mandarin>我们能说说服那个人:wo men neng shuo shuo fu na ge ren</mandarin> to kind of see our side


so you know I mean just one example is <mandarin>跟:gen</mandarin> jeff bezos <mandarin>讲话跟问他:jiang hua gen wen ta</mandarin> for <mandarin>一万块还是:yi wan kuai hai shi</mandarin> any amount of money lah you know, that that's just the first possibility lah


err you wanna hold your mic a little bit further, err ya, cannot be


we are now facing technical difficulties, eh wait on that topic right how do you think the machine can pick our laughter


do you think like we're juking the machine, no I definitely, err I think we can trick him with our language also leh, like can you imagine you say certain words that sound like english but it's actually chinese


, I don't know leh, but I think it's very interesting how it's going to pick out our laughter lah you know like social cues this kind of thing


, that is quite true <mandarin>以我来讲:yi wo lai jiang</mandarin> err I will personally think that


err okay lah because I was interviewing at this like, , basically this err ML or AI kind of err startup, so, basically my job description was err <mandarin>我需要拿那个:wo xu yao na na ge</mandarin> data set


so in order for the machine err machine learning to pick up on that first <mandarin>是需要:shi xu yao</mandarin> err <mandarin>人来:ren lai</mandarin> identify, hello <mandarin>现在会比较好:xian zai hui bi jiao hao</mandarin> mah, yup so as I was saying err basically


before you can feed it into the machine learning


err <mandarin>他们会怎么:ta men hui zen me</mandarin> pick up on <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> on <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> feature


ya but you know ya,


sure okay, ,


, okay well, , well since we are on this topic okay err err well okay so a bit for context err in case err any hiring manager is listening to this


err we're both err university undergraduates err, #yue fong# is finishing his degree soon and I am going to be in my final year


err I think we are both quite err well versed and experienced, err <mandarin>如果讲到:ru guo jiang dao</mandarin> experience <mandarin>的话我我们是有挺蛮多的:de hua wo wo men shi you ting man duo de</mandarin> experience err I was, supposed to be developing a kind of


QA or automation testing, to for all the data set to fit into the machine learning model so I believe the company the <mandarin>名字是叫:ming zi shi jiao</mandarin> something consulting was it


I think it was something S something LMH consulting right


err I think what they are doing is to like what you said to be the middleman, err basically, whatever data set raw data sets that that is collected must definitely be kind of err must definitely be transformed first before it can be feed into the machine learning model so <mandarin>以这个方面来讲:yi zhe ge fang mian lai jiang</mandarin> I think <mandarin>我们两个人都蛮适合这份工作的:wo men liang ge ren dou man shi he zhe fen gong zuo de</mandarin>


, ya but I I mean, ya I really think is quite interesting err you know as of now where we have to kind of pass the raw data file then transform it into the actual data that will be feed into the machine learning


ya,


dude I think <mandarin>我们这样讲话:wo men zhe yang jiang hua</mandarin> hor like <mandarin>我们一直换:wo men yi zhi huan</mandarin> topic right I think <mandarin>真的会:zhen de hui</mandarin> juke <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> ML leh


, okay, ya, hopefully


alright, so going finally back to the topic okay err what three skills will you master, so the second skill I will master is , err okay I definitely think err


, I think I will learn I think I will wanna be good at you know, err how to entertain people, err, okay like <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> okay <mandarin>我不懂你有没有注意到可是现在的年代就我是有注意我是有注意到很多:wo bu dong ni you mei you zhu yi dao ke shi xian zai de nian dai jiu wo shi you zhu yi wo shi you zhu yi dao hen duo</mandarin> err


err <mandarin>我觉得他们讲的话是蛮有道理而且是蛮有趣的:wo jue de ta men jiang de hua shi man you dao li er qie shi man you qu de</mandarin> I I think that's a skill in itself on whether or not you know we can stay up to date with whatever that's going on and engage the audience err in a sense err <mandarin>整十年前二十年前:zheng shi nian qian er shi nian qian</mandarin> I guess that's the equivalent of being a radio host or DJ where you know


err eh from <mandarin>你的那边很有:ni de na bian hen you</mandarin> static, ya


ya so anyway I was saying err I think it's a good skill to have on whether or not we can entertain people err persuasion is one thing lah <mandarin>能说服人是一样的东西但能:neng shuo fu ren shi yi yang de dong xi dan neng</mandarin> err like engage <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> audience or whoever you are talking to I think that's a different skill set


err I definitely think I want to master if I can, err yes so going back to podcast and all of that


so ya I think you know being a good entertainer or being engaging is a good skill to master lah


, , I think the topic is quite interesting because with machine learning or AI <mandarin>这些我是听:zhe xie wo shi ting</mandarin> elon musk <mandarin>讲:jiang</mandarin> so it should be quite accurate so from what I have heard it basically it's


basically the idea is that <mandarin>他一年比一年会上得更快:ta yi nian bi yi nian hui shang de geng kuai</mandarin> meaning to say <mandarin>他会:ta hui</mandarin> develop faster each and every year


so I think err it's hard to say for sure I think


can I have your order or something along those lines you know err


alright, so that's my second skill err I think yours is more or less the same, ya, great minds think alike


(uh huh), !hais!, well, it's hard to say when we already mastered so many skills no lah jokes aside okay well second skill okay third skill you know definitely I want to learn how to cook


ya, I think err you know <mandarin>能:neng</mandarin> err <mandarin>不止能会:bu zhi neng hui</mandarin> err <mandarin>准备饭:zhun bei fan</mandarin> you know I think that definitely is a skill involved in not just the preparation you know err <mandarin>那些:na xie</mandarin> err <mandarin>我们做的美食能怎么排:wo men zuo de mei shi neng zen me pai</mandarin> the arrangement


err even the ingredients used I I think there's a whole other world to kind of explore, err <mandarin>暂时我是只会我只会煮面煮饭:zan shi wo shi zhi hui wo zhi hui zhu mian zhu fan</mandarin> lah <mandarin>所以炒饭也会:suo yi chao fan ye hui</mandarin> so you know I think that's definitely err another thing that I will want to get into


yes correct correct so, yes correct so at the end of the day


err <mandarin>机器:ji qi</mandarin> or <mandarin>科技:ke ji</mandarin> cannot err translate well enough yet, but <mandarin>我是觉得十五年后二十年后:wo shi jue de shi wu nian hou er shi nian hou</mandarin> when this is err, thing when this is normal


like let's say <mandarin>做一个:zuo yi ge</mandarin> chef <mandarin>还是做厨师还是:hai shi zuo chu shi hai shi</mandarin> you know err whether or not you can be a good err content creator ya I think that is definitely the skills to have once err technology has reached a certain point


but whether or not that's a good or bad thing err


okay so your turn


I think definitely try to be specific specific lah


, okay


, well, (uh huh)


you get what I'm trying to say so even though today err we you know we are considered a master or expert but tomorrow is different


you see, so I think that it's wrong to say you can definitely master one skill, and expect to be a master in it forever <mandarin>我是觉得:wo shi jue de</mandarin> today you are a master but tomorrow you are not, so <mandarin>没有一山比一山高:mei you yi shan bi yi shan gao</mandarin> and the bar just the bar is only on yourself


, so how to improve on yourself I think that's the better question to ask, okay


err <mandarin>看的:kan de</mandarin> [bah] I mean <mandarin>如果今天的饭比昨天的饭好吃:ru guo jin tian de fan bi zuo tian de fan hao chi</mandarin> then you know it's a success yes but you know on the content creation side I also think that's err slightly easier to kind of judge


because err as long as more people are engaged than the previous time then you know I think it's a success already,


so, uh, correct, correct but I think especially err because when we are dealing with data sets I think definitely context is very important


can you imagine <mandarin>我们:wo men</mandarin> just err <mandarin>整个一个小时的:zheng ge yi ge xiao shi de</mandarin> conversation <mandarin>我们:wo men</mandarin> just


, true lah true lah as in yes I get that <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> actual <mandarin>的语言:de yu yan</mandarin> whether <mandarin>是用英文还是华文来沟通:shi yong ying wen hai shi hua wen lai gou tong</mandarin> err yes I think that it plays a very important part but <mandarin>我是讲:wo shi jiang</mandarin> the <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> context example <mandarin>我们讲的一句:wo men jiang de yi ju</mandarin> you know it cannot be just isolated


ya that that's what I'm trying to say lah so I think ya, you know so <mandarin>如果我们:ru guo wo men</mandarin> err like in the middle just <mandarin>讲:jiang</mandarin> Sushi #kor kor# <mandarin>还是讲:hai shi jiang</mandarin> random <mandarin>的东西:de dong xi</mandarin> I think it'll definitely juke the whole thing


yup, so okay going back to the topic yes I I think that's our trigger word everytime you want to tell the AI okay going back to topic , ya so just now we were talking about how we are going to improve you know how we are planning to master these skills and you know ya


so #yue fong# anything to add


ya okay lah so okay but how will you judge you know whether or not there's improvement or or whether or not you master this thing


improvement, [orh] so based off err what you know the response or feedback


okay, I think got time for one last you know topic,


okay lah you know let's talk about something that is just like chill don't need to think ya you know all all along we've been talking about like, very err, err not very easy things lah


err since since you asked me right err <mandarin>我刚才还没跟他还还没:wo gang cai hai mei gen ta hai hai mei</mandarin> err, so uh earlier on I had a meeting


where basically <mandarin>我的我目前的:wo de wo mu qian de</mandarin> project <mandarin>就是需要:jiu shi xu yao</mandarin> hand off <mandarin>给另外一个人就是他所谓来代替的人:gei ling wai yi ge ren jiu shi ta suo wei lai dai ti de ren</mandarin> lah okay


err then before that <mandarin>他在新加坡读书所以他现在搬回去:ta zai xin jia po du shu suo yi ta xian zai ban hui qu</mandarin> Myanmar, so the most interesting part about her is her name


err <mandarin>他的名叫:ta de ming jiao</mandarin> wine, wine, like W I N E, <mandarin>她她是蛮:ta ta shi man</mandarin> Chio <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> lah


like err at least she's willing to learn and to you know kind of like adapt lah, but


so you know you can imagine that handing over to her or showing her the ropes <mandarin>跟他讲:gen ta jiang</mandarin> err <mandarin>跟他解释:gen ta jie shi</mandarin> err <mandarin>应该是怎么做的:ying gai shi zen me zuo de</mandarin> err <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> project <mandarin>的话:de hua</mandarin> is quite frustrating quite tiring


ya, so expecting another meeting with her like I think tomorrow, err


I just think she's just another person, to take over from me, ya


err I'm not sure you know what's the <mandarin>我不确定他以前的份以前那份工作到底是做什么管类的:wo bu que ding ta yi qian de fen yi qian na fen gong zuo dao di shi zuo shen me guan lei de</mandarin> but you know err I just thought it was quite interesting


that ya then <mandarin>我现在就需要跟他解释:wo xian zai jiu xu yao gen ta jie shi</mandarin> from <mandarin>头到底:tou dao di</mandarin> on whether or not you know what what to do what it means, this kind of thing lah, of course lah of course


okay


ya so it depends on whether <mandarin>肯学:ken xue</mandarin> in the first place


err, I think so as well, ah what time should we cut ah


honestly, yes but we didn't exactly start on the dot did we, did we


ya so we still need to pet the time, yup sure sure so we have about like three minutes to go on, err as of now I'm looking at fifty nine already lah so ya about three minutes


!hais!


err <mandarin>今天是那个:jin tian shi na ge</mandarin> company treat, , you know you know honestly right I also saw the same ad on Insta, ah <mandarin>你有看他们的那个:ni you kan ta men de na ge</mandarin> sponsored posts <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> mah


, so late in the night how are you man


oh, eh that's your CCA right, uh, when when whens when is your rock climbing place again, dude you very hardcore leh


where where you rock climb ah, wait you rock climb in a gym


farrer park,


err <mandarin>没有:mei you</mandarin> you you said you were at a gym like how does that even work


plastic, , err <mandarin>多高:duo gao</mandarin> ah


wait wait, what what's the difference between bouldering and rock climbing


, oh


wait wait wait bouldering you reach the top you jump off !huh!, [orh] hard a not


eh <mandarin>所以你是做:suo yi ni shi zuo</mandarin> bouldering <mandarin>还是那个:hai shi na ge</mandarin> rock climbing


oh, is is the pay good, , err !haiya! <mandarin>我我我无话可说:wo wo wo wu hua ke shuo</mandarin> lor


err <mandarin>怎么讲:zen me jiang</mandarin> leh, oh <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> I never thought that twenty twenty will end up like that I I thought it will be better, , !hais!


!huh! really ah, gosh, !walao! on


err still coping with it err, got got friends to help me lor, err


eh how how are your results ah are they doing okay, !walao! eh you so chill one, okay


ya, for for me


expensive, how much ah, , for one hour or


oh oh, , oh, oh !wow!, ah


okay, have you heard of anyone who who actually like fall and shit you know, !huh!


!huh! <mandarin>断掉:duan diao</mandarin> ah


!wah! medical fees, , eh <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> hor err <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> gym <mandarin>有弄有冷气:you nong you leng qi</mandarin> mah


, oh ya err eh I I think I just now heard you say you you wanted a job at a gym right


err, you you just need it for pocket money is it, or you want


[orh], ya ya I I, ya you I want to find a job like that also do you know like that time I work at Yole right like one of the reasons why I work there was cause err I can eat the free yogurt


ya, err, flexible timing <mandarin>的好像:de hao xiang</mandarin> err <mandarin>不用:bu yong</mandarin> err <mandarin>八点到五点:ba dian dao wu dian</mandarin> err


err, no leh err flexible meaning like err how to say, like I don't have to be at a place at a certain time for most so like I I really enjoy work from home


ah


err difficulties lah, , err you you never look at my oh ya eh ya never follow my Instagram but ya most of my Instagram


anyway what else was there err, ya I mean freelancing jobs I I my dream job which is very it is a dream lah so I can think about it anyway I want is just


(uh huh)


ya, well I to be honest err when when I started like err studying and all I wanted to work in a think tank, so like


ya so think think tank is err basically err a workplace or a a group of people that come up with ideas, for anything under the sun


I think Google is err they they do have a think tank Google in singapore not really a lot when when I googled, ya so, when when I googled


no no no the, no the thing about think tanks is err from okay lah maybe media portrayal is worse or like different but my ideal thing tank is the kind where they give you a time period let's say oh you have to finish this by next month and you just go home and then you think you work with people you you don't have to be the office from nine to five flexibility that's why I like like I don't have to


err let's say


err, I mean, what what what what do you mean by that, (mmhmm)


(uh huh), I mean most most people will just give a general idea lah oh err social media <mandarin>很好很好:hen hao hen hao</mandarin> that kind of thing but I think really the Google doesn't really need publicity what they need is to root out its competition I'm I'm so glad err Internet Explorer wait was it Internet Explorer or is it the other one that just died like Microsoft something right


ya so I I think, they they they got the I think they have the fox something right what is it called, err Firefox yes they have Firefox


then they have Bing they have Yahoo which is so stupid by the way <mandarin>真他们真的我我不知道他们在做什么:zhen ta men zhen de wo wo bu zhi dao ta men zai zuo shen me</mandarin> then now now there's this err Microsoft got push something else right I think, they should really just focus on establishing themselves actually they already have established themselves as the dominant search engine I think it just have to to become even more successful they just need to come up with new stuff that


like these other engines cannot compete with at all due to their, ya


<mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor err copyright their stuff or whatever oh did you know that Google has like this they they give out their script or something what's that called, ya ya open source code yes


wait, wait what what what coding language you learn leh


(mmhmm),


[orh]


(mmhmm), [orh]


, so so you learn C sharp is it


and python [orh] python <mandarin>是蛇:shi she</mandarin> ah, , [orh] <mandarin>不是动物:bu shi dong wu</mandarin> ah


err oh I I got try before I wanted to stream like Twitch streaming and stuff, then I I I downloaded, oh I stream like the games I play lor err Minecraft and and and stuff like that but


err, different to offer except for myself you get what I mean so


no exactly, I was like I when when I went to stream right then I was like !aiya! streaming so easy what look at Twitch oh they all get hundreds of streamers I should at least get one right then there's there's this trick on Twitch cause err they usually show those top streamers first and then they rank bottom to like err how many how many viewers you have right so usually the the bottom of the list are the zero viewers one right so how you get


non zero viewers is you go and view yourself so you use another device and you go and view yourself so that's what I did


(mmhmm), ya, ah


you, (uh huh), ah, eh <mandarin>你有没有听过:ni you mei you ting guo</mandarin> err people go and buy viewers ah


!huh!,


(mmhmm)


(mmhmm), ya I mean I got message myself on the chat lah then I was like eh hello hi welcome to my stream but no but literally like the only person that came to watch is just one person and then I I I think I got at least like like


I got two viewers before then I tried talking to the other viewer then he never reply back and then he left then I felt so sad then after that like oh yes and then I record videos also I think after streaming for a few hours like !aiya! too hard already <mandarin>很难很难所以我我换成:hen nan hen nan suo yi wo wo huan cheng</mandarin> err <mandarin>去录音:qu lu yin</mandarin> ah I went to err record videos and then after that err


record already right, then need to process the thing or something what what's that called err, ya ya ya okay editing I did okay I I download I download the application Audacity or something it's quite a fun application


ya I did audio and then I cut some stuff and then I fade in fade out it's just very simple shit lah then after that err you have to render oh my god rendering takes forever, like a a one hour two hour video takes like eight hours to render


, but ya, ya ya ya I wanted to ask thirty ah is it all your friends or like is there any randos


are you planning to expand you know you can hire me as a


, ya you know I had such big dreams like I was gonna earn a monthly income or something then I don't have to school any more then I just have to just play the games I love and everybody will like me but really streaming is damn hard leh


(uh huh)


ya I heard competitive gaming in singapore is just really really bad right


wait do they, do they get paid like per hour they play or only when they win competitions do you know, !huh!, err


, but you but do you think you'll really outgrow gaming I think for me right now


(mmhmm),


!huh! you're not at that level yet ah I thought you very pro one


, double your what


like, wait wait how do the grades work how come got grades one I thought piano is the only one with grades


(uh huh), (mmhmm)


[orh], wait !huh! <mandarin>所所以:suo suo yi</mandarin> your grade start from five ah


(mmhmm), wait <mandarin>所以这边比较容易:suo yi zhe bian bi jiao rong yi</mandarin> ah !huh! what does that even mean


(uh huh), [orh], !wah!


[orh], so it's more of an incentive lah like <mandarin>他们要赚钱所以他们给你:ta men yao zhuan qian suo yi ta men gei ni</mandarin> lah, [orh], oh oh ya speaking of that, err are you planning to move out of singapore ah


!huh!, why leh, (uh huh) ah


(mmhmm), but okay


no, why


then <mandarin>你要:ni yao</mandarin> err <mandarin>退休:tui xiu</mandarin> then will you think of moving out of singapore


(mmhmm), I have a very different mindset from you leh <mandarin>我我是觉得:wo wo shi jue de</mandarin> err, but if I had a choice now <mandarin>我我会搬去:wo wo hui ban qu</mandarin> err japan


then err then


eh <mandarin>新加坡吃日本餐很贵很贵:xin jia po chi ri ben can hen gui hen gui</mandarin> leh eh you look at how expensive it is


, ya but okay wait, let's let's say err, if you imagine yourself about when you are sixty seventy, like if you were to just project into the future and you imagine yourself


where will you be like describe your surroundings describe err where you are


(uh huh)


wait wait <mandarin>你喜欢狗:ni xi huan gou</mandarin> ah, , , the <mandarin>猫很:mao hen</mandarin> low low maintenance ah


I don't, ya I don't have to


(mmhmm), eh you, do you know cats in HDB is illegal I never knew leh, ya cause they very easy to jump out of the window


ya all like escape, so, wait you were talking about the the bungalow right eh they live in singapore is it, !wow! where where like


#ang mo kio#, so so your your your dream house is a bungalow is it, for


ya I think for for you you I I find it interesting cause, I don't like to live in a civilised like err city town or city country


countryside, ya ya err okay not suburban like okay let's I I always imagined this place in japan, or like some place where I have a house on top of a hill there there's like a legit house like made of wood like legit wood


err,


ya and funny thing is I never imagined myself with a wife or like a kid so like I live in, quotation marks isolation lah, which is quite sad actually but


no no that's the thing you see I think cats really reflect my emotional state and like like it's a real representation of me lah like they laze around, err they, and then


ya, an an interesting fact I just learnt this do you know like dogs right when they look at like when you look at dogs you have the dopamine rush right when you hug them do you know that the dogs also get that same rush when they get hugged


cause I wouldn't have the dopamine rush when I go and hug them, like err


ya, ya, uh no I just and then I I find <mandarin>他们:ta men</mandarin> ya I find <mandarin>他们的那个:ta men de na ge</mandarin> licking ah !wah! <mandarin>很:hen</mandarin> (ugh) like


ya okay I agree, like, owning a dog has more


err, I think, okay err if I go with my life plan of not being married and not being kids right the money is all mine, I mean I give like ten percent or twenty percent to my parents


err savings maybe another ten percent that means I have seventy percent to spend on myself err I'm the kind of guy that, needs to go on a break to realise that I don't want to go on a break you get what I mean like I everytime I wish for a school holidays lah <mandarin>假期:jia qi</mandarin> lah <mandarin>来来来:lai lai lai</mandarin> but then at the end in the middle of the <mandarin>假期:jia qi</mandarin> I'm like err <mandarin>很闷很闷对:hen men hen men dui</mandarin> lor


ya, ya another thing about working in


another thing about working in japan is that they have this like four hours eh not four hours four day work week, ya so, that works well too, , wednesday thursday


I think wednesday thursday lah if you put work wednesday might as well just have five days lah who who go and put a holiday the middle who go and put a rest day in the middle of the week, like


ya ya ya


, to be honest I really wanted to experience okay lah is is a really really bad fallacy but like <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> err one day work week <mandarin>有没有看到那个:you mei you kan dao na ge</mandarin> !wah! banana <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> video


, err no no but you see right you know you still get paid the same amount but but the thing is that one day will be so productive because you need to do work if not you cannot catch up on shit


and , and


(mmhmm), wait other than climbing and and gaming what else do you do ah like do you have any other hobbies


!huh! <mandarin>你你玩:ni ni wan</mandarin> guitar ah,


err no I don't go for videos videos are out, oh no, dude they are so expensive like what, err no


I have never tried it but I it feels I feel, I feel like it's a lot of hard work and a lot of, of complication, ya


what what do you think are the, okay lah since we, a lot of people say that singapore very good err <mandarin>新加坡很好很干净很安全:xin jia po hen hao hen gan jing hen an quan</mandarin> what do you think about the cons of staying in singapore


err ivan ah <mandarin>我听不到你:wo ting bu dao ni</mandarin> leh


(uh huh), ,


(mmhmm),


oh sorry connection issue, did you didn't you didn't stop the recording right, err I I just feel that


I just feel, (uh huh), err I just feel that, singapore is, has has a lot of restrictions err like like what you said lah it is very


it's a very, how to say err, it gives you a very narrow view so, I agree with that and I feel there , it also just doesn't show you the reality of this world lah, I mean, you you look at err <mandarin>美国你你:mei guo ni ni</mandarin> err you look at err


like <mandarin>中国:zhong guo</mandarin> or you look at the different philosophies of of running a government of running a country singapore is just straight up democracy, ya


(mmhmm), so okay let's say you can move to a country and and all your costs are covered for one year so you are sponsored all the way where will you move to


italy


(mmhmm)


wait wait wait what what's the mother tongue !huh!, [orh] uh


wait


!huh!


wait what's the difference between a boy and a bag pros and cons, oh,


[orh], eh is it <mandarin>很贵:hen gui</mandarin> ah


eh <mandarin>是一个:shi yi ge</mandarin> bag <mandarin>而已:er yi</mandarin> hor <mandarin>是一个:shi yi ge</mandarin> small pouch hor,


I mean <mandarin>我有看过:wo you kan guo</mandarin> lah <mandarin>在网上看过:zai wang shang kan guo</mandarin> but


ah okay, I will stay in the Himalayas hotel, wait is it Himalayas the err you know the one with the white beach and then like so pretty an island kind


ya I know err ya so I was like if it isn't Himalayas it starts with H too, , I'm pretty sure it sounds it I'm pretty sure it's Himalayas leh, !aiya! let me


oh okay, ya it's an island err, err okay wait I think it's one of the most beautiful beaches, in the world, let's see err


ya, oh oh no not Himalayas that maldives my god the difference is so strong ya I I I feel like


I thought I thought Maltese was like a chocolate or something, I don't


uh, K I, that's true then I was thinking !aiyo! <mandarin>你看那个:ni kan na ge</mandarin> sunset <mandarin>看多久一个人一一年:kan duo jiu yi ge ren yi yi nian</mandarin> ah <mandarin>不可能:bu ke neng</mandarin> mah


but, I think, really err the most okay what do you think is the most optimal period for vacation like one week a month


[orh] so


I mean for me my purpose for vacation is religious, get out of the hectic-ness and just self reflect so so I think for me my my best is about one month max or minimum and then just sit there and


just really reflect about, (mmhmm)


ya,


correct lah


so basically what we're just trying to say is balance lah, (mmhmm)


I as in what what part of it that you're so passionate about is it is it like


[orh] so so it's more of the independence lah and then, okay how about for for me in my perspective is it like also a part where, at the end of the day when you reach the top you feel that sense of accomplishment like in other sports you it doesn't really matter your score there's a win and a lose


but but for rock for for rock climbing you're just basically doing it by yourself and, like, ya


(mmhmm)


, err ya ya I I I switch from debate so now I'm in ventures I mean we we don't really do much due to COVID and stuff so there's really


err, ya ya err I think ya I went to try out mah then <mandarin>他们:ta men</mandarin> was like was like err you cannot


I think my technique not there I just play for recreation you know like if I had to choose a sport to play


[orh]


okay now clap, hi put on earpieces, right I am doing fine school was damn stress lah but


err so as I went for rock climbing quite fun honestly, ya and, err nowadays I climb like monday tuesday thursday saturday kinda insane <mandarin>可是可是可是我我不管:ke shi ke shi ke shi wo wo bu guan</mandarin> lah <mandarin>你知道吗:ni zhi dao ma</mandarin> <mandarin>好玩就是好玩你知道吗:hao wan jiu shi hao wan ni zhi dao ma</mandarin> okay


, err where ah err anywhere lah singapore damn big you know got a lot of gyms and like err usually usually there's one at lavender but then today I went to farrer park


but both quite nice lah ya


ya, okay your idea of gym is weights and pull up bars but, this gym has high walls and a lot of plastic holes on them, and I climb


then just climb there ya


oh okay so bouldering is rock climbing err okay rock climbing is a very general term we split it into high walls lead and bouldering


you either jump off or you climb down cause it's a rather short wall comparatively, hard is hard lah but it's usually not so physically demanding like it is still


a physical challenge <mandarin>我挺强的可是比较难可是:wo ting qiang de ke shi bi jiao nan ke shi</mandarin> it's really more of like a technical challenge half the time because err, ya it's it's really like a lot of techniques involved that people don't really notice until you try it for yourself


err I started out doing like high wall top roping but because of my CCA where they just do bouldering <mandarin>我就跟他们做:wo jiu gen ta men zuo</mandarin> then I just do bouldering then now I just love it a lot then I go do it actually I'm also like going to I might possibly go start working at a bouldering gym soon someone err found there's slots there so I might just work there


oh I'll see I'll see okay so how about you bro how has err twenty twenty been like, school and all and life honestly


ya I mean like who would err <mandarin>这个真的很惨:zhe ge zhen de hen can</mandarin> and like got COVID, eh lucky trump never win ah that one funny but oh ya got COVID got australian wildfires got whatever more diseases <mandarin>什么:shen me</mandarin> they almost found a second strain luckily they contained it for now, almost ya almost


ya but ya it's kinda


that's good that's good, so ya, okay lah honestly don't, really err no stress lah


!haiyo! <mandarin>现在:xian zai</mandarin> !haiya! <mandarin>现在多东西做:xian zai duo dong xi zuo</mandarin> lah, ya lor just keep studying and studying lor just what to say wake up study


game climb sleep ah that's my life ya fun lah it's it's a good life but expensive lah but, honesty as in because of climbing lah climbing !wah! damn Xiong, I mean one trip can be like eighteen it ranges from fifteen dollars to twenty five dollars depending on whether whether you need shoes or not


for now cause of COVID is three hours but before this was usually err based on like one whole day so you can just go for lunch come back and keep climbing and for dinner, but depends on how much energy you have, well I mean well ya that's just how it was lah


uh if you're talking about like really nasty falls I haven't injured myself permanently yet but , won't be surprised if I do some time, yes


oh ya one of my seniors err straight up broke eh, I mean okay one of my seniors broke, what was it I think it was an ankle or an elbow or both err


he missed out <mandarin>然后他掉下来:ran hou ta diao xia lai</mandarin> err <mandarin>整个:zheng ge</mandarin> elbow, gone just torn ligament gone just gone ya, but okay no need to go into too much details lah a bit disgusting


, okay, (mmhmm)


err <mandarin>你自己选择不要那个是你的问题:ni zi ji xuan ze bu yao na ge shi ni de wen ti</mandarin> , ya


I can ya can really get everything done once again, learn err both business wise and climbing wise from the owners,


bro that is smart that is damn smart but eh then I ask you ah then but then cannot find a job like that then what's your dream job


, so what F&B like that's very flexible but is it your thing right, would you be happy doing working in a cafe for nine to five or nine to ten even


ya same same same, photography, do you do photography


, (hmm) so what have you been doing it for a long time or


!wow! it's almost you rejected me,


err <mandarin>去大公司帮他们:qu da gong si bang ta men</mandarin> hack <mandarin>东西:dong xi</mandarin> lor but and then they'll pay me for it because they say oh you found a very nice security flaw now fix it and we'll pay for it so


it's also you can also do it as a freelance job cause you just say oh Singtel wants me to help them today sure then tomorrow Facebook to help me err wants me to help them rather it's err it'll be also pretty nice lah ya and that's another's freelance job so is photography your only option or because it is an expensive job you need to commit to the camera and the lenses and all that but


think think tank Tiktak


where did they hired that in singapore


I feel like you you would really just go insane after work


so what will they ask you to think about, like it has to be related to Google in some way I would think so


well okay say you working at a think tank right now at Google suggesting err some way to help our


marketing team, what what's something you come up with on the spot, then you work on at home,


, well, edge but I think I think you're talking about Internet Explorer just died ya <mandarin>他们他们刚他们:ta men ta men gang ta men</mandarin> gone


fox, !wow! Mozilla yes,


, ya I mean I agree ya Google is more, and at this point it's just so high class where like they just have to, err worry about


like their open source code or what


okay so basically there's many coding languages under the sun


the computer has to process it a quite a few times over and over so that they can translate english to code so you imagine that I tell you oh just execute with this that's what we can do with python but, if you were to say that in


and python, err <mandarin>不是蛇:bu shi she</mandarin> lah python is a type of snake yes you are not wrong <mandarin>可是我想的:ke shi wo xiang de</mandarin> python is coding language lah like I said it's a simplistic one,


!hais!, oh, what would you stream on Twitch


so why why would they watch you over another singaporean,


it's pretty pretty scheming you know but ya I mean if it works it works but also like , this streaming is workable but of course you need to have the right, situation right circumstances for it so starting off at zero viewers and reaching your way up is the most like rags to riches way of doing it <mandarin>就是说你要真的很用功每天:jiu shi shuo ni yao zhen de hen yong gong mei tian</mandarin> stream <mandarin>每天做就可以做:mei tian zuo jiu ke yi zuo</mandarin> but if you lax then you might just fall very easily


err but some other Twitch streamers who say they have a bigger following on Youtube or somewhere else already then they say okay <mandarin>我每天要做这个:wo mei tian yao zuo zhe ge</mandarin> then people will match in onto them, then you have a very easy circumstance to start streaming lah


err ya or bot-ing also <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> err, lose money in a sense like yes you might get views but then people will just stop watching at some point they will just like !hey!


if if they just look at the stream for a bit they realise no one's in the chat, there's no reaction to like a really big play or something then you can tell very easily it's fake


!wah! <mandarin>你很坏:ni hen huai</mandarin> leh


you can get your mum to watch lah,


, upload and process or editing or what


so you you did audio mainly for what, , ya it's what you expect


I mean obviously the person and content I also do a lot of recording I used to I used to do it at the start my videos were horrible were not err it wasn't editing as it was just the recording not being set right


then like ya cause like ya I've been, the this was all self taught as well so


err at least one err oh I'm quite proud I've like thirty subscribers ya, I think maybe ten of them my friends and then twenty are randos, which is a two to one ratio and I'm proud of it


videos ah but, until then,


, then ah you need to worry about jobs in the future, so you need to think about that and err games just have to be sacrificed at some point I feel so


err <mandarin>做工:zuo gong</mandarin> lor <mandarin>你要你要赚钱还是你要玩游戏如果你玩游戏赚钱那个是很好可是没有那么多人有这个:ni yao ni yao zhuan qian hai shi ni yao wan you xi ru guo ni wan you xi zhuan qian na ge shi hen hao ke shi mei you na me duo ren you zhe ge</mandarin> this luxury lah


the only team I've even heard of in singapore is like an overwatch team err which I don't know what happened to them I think they just vanished


I honestly don't know, I never bothered looking but I just know they get paid a lot which okay I would love to get into competitive or like maybe even compete in R six at some point but <mandarin>这是同样问题我没有时间:zhe shi tong yang wen ti wo mei you shi jian</mandarin>


ya, if not I might even try harder but, I don't think I would outgrow it per se but I would have at least a few year a year or so in my life where I would have to like really stop thinking about games altogether


uh the dream will just be find a job that


I can do what I love while, finding while while while earning money so, other than game cause like gaming and climbing both share borders by my life now where I I just I doing either of them makes me really happy so if I can find a job where like it's


, ya it's it's actually ya it's pretty good pay most of the time err but, I just have to get to that level where I can teach people comfortably


my my climbing grade cause climbing is based on grades as well even though grades aren't that important but he can still climb way harder than me, nope everything has grades even exams <mandarin>所以这个爬墙有:suo yi zhe ge pa qiang you</mandarin> err there's two common methods of grading one is the french system and one is the err vermin scale


err <mandarin>五:wu</mandarin> A <mandarin>五:wu</mandarin> B <mandarin>五:wu</mandarin> C <mandarin>六:liu</mandarin> A <mandarin>六:liu</mandarin> B <mandarin>六:liu</mandarin> C then like seven A seven B seven C onwards, so you just assume five is the easiest err until like currently the world records err the world like hardest width set is nine B plus


err which is sent by one or two people at most, out of all the peoples who's at it, err, then if you're talking about anything lower than five four and below that's the scale of walking and crawling and


err being a toddler at that point, ya, in climbing yes <mandarin>所以我们是从五可是如果你在讲:suo yi wo men shi cong wu ke shi ru guo ni zai jiang</mandarin> err <mandarin>那个美国他们:na ge mei guo ta men</mandarin> they usually use the vermin scale err which is just think of it as V zero V one V two V three V four V five until nine A I believe it is fifteen if I'm not wrong something around there


so now currently my grade is like a V three which is like a six A plus six B, not that impressive but already pretty, but it is singapore and I'll tell you as much <mandarin>我们现在新加坡的这个:wo men xian zai xin jia po de zhe ge</mandarin> grades


, it no it's it's actually just insanely hard, like we because we don't really prioritise your whole experience if you think it's hard it's meant to be hard, like we will climbing gyms in singapore are more like [orh] <mandarin>你这个好玩吗:ni zhe ge hao wan ma</mandarin> !huh! <mandarin>好玩就一直做:hao wan jiu yi zhi zuo</mandarin> lor then


but like gyms in america are more like oh you want to keep coming back we should motivate that so we make our grades easier so say a V three here might be like a V five there or V six in america, I I'm not gonna say that for every gym in america but <mandarin>很多:hen duo</mandarin> lah


so imagine that I can send a V three here at my current limit V three to V four, err in america I might be able to send a V five


or a V six, so that they cause the logic there is just that you go to the climbing gym and then you send a V like V three first day you get motivated to come back


a lot more, it's a profiting scheme lah, <mandarin>他们他们要赚钱:ta men ta men yao zhuan qian</mandarin> lor <mandarin>全部都是为了这个这个想法是要赚钱:quan bu dou shi wei le zhe ge zhe ge xiang fa shi yao zhuan qian</mandarin> lor


when I was younger I was always thinking of moving out because of my err


err <mandarin>很舒服的地方:hen shu fu de di fang</mandarin> it's a very very relaxing place especially if you go to perth or melbourne or sydney, it's all very calm and cool and collected and then the people there are really very nice and


oh ya I wouldn't mind studying there ya honesty but that was all before I discovered rock climbing and, the people I've met through, err studying and climbing I've


like if I move to australia is gonna be harder to play with you and, joel and the rest, I don't want to go out of singapore <mandarin>还有如果还有还有我不要去中国:hai you ru guo hai you hai you wo bu yao qu zhong guo</mandarin> never


, my hope at that point is then I would have kids I would have people to look after me and vice versa so


there'll be no point moving on unless for, like a dating trip with my wife, just leave the kids to do their own thing then we go hang out but, that's a, a dream for now ya


why why so specific,


ah, uh too bad


so why wouldn't I do that right, err, yes dog person always, are you a cat person, <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> but why okay let's argue why do you prefer cats over dogs


I


oh really, why too noisy or what, oh oh I can see why


ya that'll be that'll be a problem, dogs aren't that hyper active I suppose, , what ya they live in singapore, err, #ang mo kio# around there


ya, something like that ya I mean some high class place lah I mean I I've always been a person of high class that's why that's a problem but, err that's just my dream retirement right it's like ages


err <mandarin>能好好在那边休息看我们看我的儿子女儿去找东西:neng hao hao zai na bian xiu xi kan wo men kan wo de er zi nv er qu zhao dong xi</mandarin> ya


are you that kind of person who would rather go on adventure until you're eighty and then just err like settle down like some really suburban area


, the <mandarin>梦想:meng xiang</mandarin>


(hmm), to each our own lah honestly if that's your dream life go for it, but ya uh <mandarin>如果我们要讲这些:ru guo wo men yao jiang zhe xie</mandarin> ya pretty deep stuff ya but, eh actually well we kind of gloss over a point right let's talk about


dogs against cats right, I'm a bit hungover because like okay why would you like cats okay err they're not annoying I wouldn't say that they're cute but they are, they get annoying sometimes like dogs you can just hug right you try to hug a cat


sometimes it just bites you, , err I mean ya I agree but


err err <mandarin>我认为狗是比较可爱:wo ren wei gou shi bi jiao ke ai</mandarin> lah honestly <mandarin>你你去抱他们他们会抱你:ni ni qu bao ta men ta men hui bao ni</mandarin> is very is very wholesome


(mmhmm), ya so why wouldn't you want a dog it's so wholesome, dopamine, it's the worst


really you you scared of the biter, were you bitten before, , just hear a lot of stories ah,


I mean to each his own, ya , (hmm) (hmm) please stop but ya err like, okay I can see where you are coming from but


I prefer to take a dog than a cat because at least I feel like I'm actually doing something for my life and my pet, ya no <mandarin>你在刚才我们在讲那些:ni zai gang cai wo men zai jiang na xie</mandarin> like err <mandarin>梦想中的生活那你说你要做是:meng xiang zhong de sheng huo na ni shuo ni yao zuo shi</mandarin> freelance jobs right err if you want to do do you envision yourself doing that for like thirty forty years


or is it like you think you have, many different breaks err and different jobs during that time period,


smart,


, ya so so it's like it's like a short break but not too


not too short but also not long where it feels kinda like over, err like way too long <mandarin>就是要要休息可是不要休息:jiu shi yao yao xiu xi ke shi bu yao xiu xi</mandarin>


, that sounds pretty good actually ya, so do they work monday tuesday err thursday friday or, wednesday thursday


productive like you will because if you work like four days in a row or five days in a row


but then if you're talking about like putting a rest day in the middle of the week like wednesday and then you


working, err in today's I mean okay if you work four days monday tuesday wednesday thursday and rest three days it can work but


no , you don't, do work so what you get paid for the one day and nothing else


, I don't see the temptation like ya it'd be cool but then for the other six days my personal outlook is


!wah! <mandarin>我要做东西没有东西做:wo yao zuo dong xi mei you dong xi zuo</mandarin> !aiyo! <mandarin>要怎么办:yao zen me ban</mandarin> like I I I need something to do to to uh enjoy life like ya I can I can fill that time by gaming or climbing or whatever but it's err it just doesn't feel right you know


like I should be doing more, , honestly not so much like those are, climbing studying and


gaming are like three faces of my life at this point, err <mandarin>就是如果我不做任何这个东西就会觉得很奇怪:jiu shi ru guo wo bu zuo ren he zhe ge dong xi jiu hui jue de hen qi guai</mandarin> if I like I need to do them at least once every other day if not I'll feel very weird


either of those three things, and in terms of other sports also I don't really play much else, err <mandarin>有时候会跳绳:you shi hou hui tiao sheng</mandarin> lah but that's about it like just like the skipping rope every now and then, ya but that's about it


err don't really do swimming don't play any power games


err so brandon you say you do photography do you do mainly digital or have you do you work with film err film as well


no as in do you do like err like, film rolls photography or like digital photography, ya but it can be pretty cool either right


have you tried it though I have friends who my friend my friend's trying it now, it is it is but the results cannot pay off cause you get a very certain quality that


you should try it ya it's pretty fun, what you can Google there's a video on the on internet about some people who tried making it there's a lot of them, its pretty fun ya from what I can see


, cons err


I'd say like, if you stay for, way too long like your entire life long and without going out of the country you'd probably just, have a very closeted view of the world and a very


how to say like you you probably get a very, disinterested in stuff after awhile cause of how small we are there's nothing to explore, err like when you live in singapore I think that if you don't at least go out to like australia or even just nearby asia countries you don't really get to experience err


like all the different cultures all the different, feelings of different world especially since oh ya another downside to pair with this <mandarin>就是说新加坡是很热的地方:jiu shi shuo xin jia po shi hen re de di fang</mandarin> it's a constant summer place right so


you're so used to like this heat that if you ever go to a cold country you just don't know what cold feels like, and you are so surprised but cause turning cold in singapore <mandarin>就是冷天气:jiu shi leng tian qi</mandarin> lor


but it's like, , how to put it, is so, err like it's such a one sided view of the world that it's just a hot err small place, that you kind of need to experience either living other countries or just going to many other countries in your life


so you know the whole experience how about you what do you think,


, okay err connection issues continue


, that's true democracy versus socialism versus capitalism versus communism err one of those things not like the other but


err like you really have to see and feel and try it for yourself to know why singapore's better or worse than some countries


(mmhmm), uh probably somewhere in italy, just because italy I've always wanted to go to italy I just like the design of the place like I said just now I'm a very <mandarin>高档的人:gao dang de ren</mandarin> I'm a very like I like very expensive taste and stuff err


and what better place to go than like milan or venice you know, uh where like you can really experience a more, some parts it's like very high class like you go to paris like that and stuff it's very high class culture


uh anything expensive things, very posh and, lack of better word Atas


sadly <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> Notre dame got burnt down err but that would have been a great place to visit so for and for a year there's a lot of stuff to do in italy, the Notre dame, the church the Notre dame


that got burnt down ya if not it'll be a great place to visit it's one of the most popular churches and err


, err <mandarin>不记得今年还是去年忘记了:bu ji de jin nian hai shi qu nian wang ji le</mandarin> ,


, are you going to buy me one, , uh yes you want to err so you're saying climbing right we use chalk


and , you put chalk in bags then you put chalk you try to put chalk in the bag really on balls err and then put the ball in the bag so you can just squeezed the ball for a chalk on your hands, uh so ya I would not I would rather appreciate a new chalk board bag but


I'm gonna get it myself so if some point if err if it's past christmas, so we'll see, you put the ball in the bag, ya so, it it just for keeping it, err <mandarin>干净你知道:gan jing ni zhi dao</mandarin> mah <mandarin>所以不会如果你直接放那个:suo yi bu hui ru guo ni zhi jie fang na ge</mandarin> chalk <mandarin>在那个那个包包里可能会这种东西倒翻:zai na ge na ge bao bao li ke neng hui zhe zhong dong xi dao fan</mandarin> just make a giant mess of it


but, if you use the, you don't need to stress about it if you don't want to


not necessarily depends on where you buy from depends on what kind you're looking for, it's the thought that counts right, basically, uh you know it when you ask the person about it


that's about that's all I can say on that, but yes, , ya you can just Google it but


Himalayas cold, that heaven this is the mountain by the way


, , you talking about island


so you want to say, I didn't know, the, !huh! no that's that's dog breed that's not it I'm not sure but basically you will want to stay on an island and


and do what exactly what scuba dive everyday, the maldives yes, I was thinking of maltese but maltese is a dog breed never mind


is it I might be wrong it's five AM <mandarin>就是你要去那个:jiu shi ni yao qu na ge</mandarin> island <mandarin>做什么呢:zuo shen me ne</mandarin> just, what would you do there for one year is the question


for one year you will get so many wrinkles you'll look like you are eighty by the time you're done bro, yes


, depends on the purpose of the vacation that's for sure because if you're looking to okay for me personally when I in the future from now if I'm looking to go on vacation is just going to be for a climb trip so I don't mean climbing in gyms overseas although that's a big priority as well cause I want to see how different their setting is but


err <mandarin>其他的国家很多地方可以:qi ta de guo jia hen duo di fang ke yi</mandarin> lah so like if I go to australia you go to like the coast the seaside port sites and all that you will see a lot of natural rocks that you can climb that's the kind of places I want to experience if you are talking about those I will need quite a few weeks and a few months to just go and experience everything and just climb


I mean a week or two is enough probably just to experience the food experience the err parks there then come home


but there's many reasons for a vacation to be optimal


, how do I put it


ya ya and and and that balance is really just up to you to find, err but


if you can, err if you can find a balance it's for the best obviously, I mean like okay I before this I never found a sport that I truly love there was I did softball for awhile I did badminton for awhile then skipping rope for awhile


but there's nothing that I would sacrifice time money and this much effort into that, err <mandarin>生命中很重要的东西:sheng ming zhong hen zhong yao de dong xi</mandarin> so


ya just kind of really just fell in love with it, and then I just it just kind of went crazy from there and now I climb four times a week for fun, I don't like listen I honestly can't tell you I just love it I just love the sport I just love how how fun and interesting it is for me


that's really up to you for me I just love it I think one of the other factors also <mandarin>是我在:shi wo zai</mandarin> err <mandarin>小学小五的时候我:xiao xue xiao wu de shi hou wo</mandarin> so <mandarin>那个是我真正第一次做可是小五的我是真的很小很怕:na ge shi wo zhen zheng di yi ci zuo ke shi xiao wu de wo shi zhen de hen xiao hen pa</mandarin> so I was very


incapable of doing this climbing stuff, uh because I was like not even able to get pass like the first few steps but, compare that for sec four me when I was a lot thinner and a lot more, able to pull this off


then, so I just kept doing it over and over cause it felt good it felt very nice that I could actually do this without


err needing other help lah in some sense also, that's one that's one factor I was saying


, I mean, err you don't really do it by yourself that's the thing like you can do it by yourself but


you every now and then you need like a solid day to just relax if you want to but err and for me honestly pushing myself is easier when there's less people around but also with friends <mandarin>会很好玩:hui hen hao wan</mandarin> like it's way more fun with people around to encourage you they all shouting like eh do it do it do it ya it's very fun


so that's uh also, like a factor of why it's so fun because especially now that I'm in the CCA there's so many people to motivate me to, get better at it ya,


then then what about I never ask did you go into a CCA at all


you never considered joining the school team,


!haiya! sad, like you are too weak PT wise or like you your technique just wasn't there


, sad lah cause like climbing in my school was the opposite, a lot of my seniors have the same story where like they never heard or did climbing before err poly life then, for some reason one way or another they decided oh <mandarin>今天我要试一下:jin tian wo yao shi yi xia</mandarin> lor <mandarin>就去做:jiu qu zuo</mandarin> lor then they get their friend down and then now like two of them are our


like EXCO basically, so ya I mean like <mandarin>我我有一个:wo wo you yi ge</mandarin> like one of my seniors is she did dancing for most of her life, then come to poly she want to try climbing then now she just starts climbing lor


so they managed to settle for err school pay half we pay off half kind of deal


ya but, I think use to be more but err <mandarin>不用紧:bu yong jin</mandarin> lah, competition ya err


ya so basically


gravical is like the comp standard for singaporean climbers in a sense, then if you, want to, err show that you are a good climber you probably have a gravical shirt at some point


okay I'm gonna clap now ah, hello


ya I can hear you, eh ya then, I just now go


ya then after that I go Jomin'S house, play, play some FIFA lor, what did you, do today


[orh] <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> ah, what's your essay about


that's true


so, ya so have you been dancing, a lot


but I always see you <mandarin>在:zai</mandarin> Instagram <mandarin>跳舞:tiao wu</mandarin> ah, really ah


so have you been trying hip hop or contemporary, [orh], not bad not bad maybe you should teach me how to <mandarin>跳舞一点:tiao wu yi dian</mandarin> ah


oh that's the that's the OCBC eat mouse challenge


ah ya <mandarin>对对对:dui dui dui</mandarin> err, this mouse ah


so, ten thousand, will get me set for the year lah so,


err, last time me #chuan yin# darren


ah ya then they ask you key in <mandarin>你的那个:ni de na ge</mandarin> postal code ah, postal code then, everyday you got three tries lor


quite cool then everyday they will released one clue, then, ah


really ah, there's only one prize lah must find if you find ten thousand, uh but quite hard to find ah


send <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> answers


ya, you want to know the clues or not maybe <mandarin>你有没有一些:ni you mei you yi xie</mandarin> ideas ah


I can read to you the clues ah, they said they said that one hint is there is a supermarket with a two colour logo within five hundred and fifty meters


of course lah they purposely one all the clues won't tell you anything one


they are talking about the brand ah like let's say Cold Storage got two colour or not I don't know lah Cold Storage <mandarin>有两个有有绿色:you liang ge you you lv se</mandarin> then got, don't know what lah, what, but basic


what you mean by venue, ya lah ya lah must go but now online don't need to go mah


ah <mandarin>可是:ke shi</mandarin> the


the previous one was like block some block five hundred plus Dakota street don't know what lah, they, ya, a bit hard to get lah


the nearest gas station is at least five hundred metre away, basically quite impossible I guess it's quite luck quite down to


luck already ah, not you actually they not just must find the block then they say they will ask you a question what floor is it from one to hundred you must say what floor so you must guess the floor also


then they will say what item is it beside cause I guess they will give some clues


you must answer, you must answer <mandarin>三个:san ge</mandarin> questions [orh], ten thousand dollar I legit need


I need to, recently I, I got a scratch on the rental car


(hmm)


so he, she got <mandarin>很多:hen duo</mandarin> car ah


[orh], got this kind of fans <mandarin>就好:jiu hao</mandarin> Liao [orh], !wah! but <mandarin>我听说那个:wo ting shuo na ge</mandarin> repair cost around <mandarin>三百块:san bai kuai</mandarin> ah <mandarin>所以真的没有钱:suo yi zhen de mei you qian</mandarin> Liao


they not happy ah this, so basically it's a small scratch ah <mandarin>可是:ke shi</mandarin> ah <mandarin>两百三百块:liang bai san bai kuai</mandarin> lah, no lah it's track car <mandarin>不是:bu shi</mandarin> blue SG track car another another company <mandarin>的名字:de ming zi</mandarin> [orh]


your driving how ah almost end already ah


[orh], congrats ah congrats, but <mandarin>你的爸爸会:ni de ba ba hui</mandarin> let you use his car meh


hopefully ah if not, okay [orh] can drive me or not, thank you bro thank you bro


but but <mandarin>我听说:wo ting shuo</mandarin> a lot of people will fail their first try ah, really ah you think driving <mandarin>容易:rong yi</mandarin> ah


[orh] then parking <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> everything okay ah, parallel parking


!wah! you are a natural <mandarin>天才:tian cai</mandarin> ah, but your driving is who pay for it one


[orh]


!wah! cheryl raging at me again help lah, she say she suddenly I don't know cause, just just now I calling her then <mandarin>我跟她讲我要跟你我们有这个东西做:wo gen ta jiang wo yao gen ni wo men you zhe ge dong xi zuo</mandarin> mah then, and then now she suddenly say


baby your honeymoon phase has definitely ended, legit ah


ya <mandarin>我们去:wo men qu</mandarin> thomson plaza then met #chuan yin#


she okay lor, but now <mandarin>不知道为什么:bu zhi dao wei shen me</mandarin> she angry again [orh]


oh ya hopefully ah, the puzzle the puzzle I I guess <mandarin>他们他们在找:ta men ta men zai zhao</mandarin> you must say your find your postal code lor then


postal code, ah <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> can be a shopping mall, or <mandarin>可以:ke yi</mandarin> be somebody's house <mandarin>这种东西:zhe zhong dong xi</mandarin> [orh]


ya I mean I mean it's not a physical mouse lah, I mean singapore quite small lah


but, so you want to try or not, , what do you mean that one is what


ya if you get the exact postal code then, you straight away win [orh] <mandarin>一次是:yi ci shi</mandarin> ten thousand dollars


the one the person that it's correct lah, the previous one correct, I think it was this year also I think it was, quite recent also


you can say that


they, they this one is hosted by OCBC ah of course they got money ah , also all this whole event is partnered with OCBC one it's like sponsored


no lah <mandarin>上次他们也有一个:shang ci ta men ye you yi ge</mandarin> ten thousand dollar one that's the one me #chuan yin# darren try to find also, ya


I guess it's random ah the previously one was two thousand and twenty dollars cause it's twenty twenty so they just put two thousand they anyhow one ah anyhow throw around money one, advertisement ah and plus


err oh they were saying you buy vouchers from CapitaLand they will give you more clues like more better clues or something like that ah I think there's some cashing system, no it's but it's it's not say <mandarin>你给他们:ni gei ta men</mandarin> hundred dollar then just for the clues it's <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> pay hundred dollars for hundred dollars worth of vouchers they just want to promote spending [orh] on the CapitaLand


so ya lah, if you want to buy stuff on shopping it's actually worth it lah, cause, ya then I mean


you got Telegram right, okay, but what's your strategy in finding the mouse


no ah <mandarin>你看那些:ni kan na xie</mandarin> clues, how to how to narrow down on anywhere sia


ya every attempt they will give you one clues up to three times a day, if you get it wrong and <mandarin>不要那个:bu yao na ge</mandarin> clue ah


why would you not want the clue, err no cannot they will straight away give you the clue already, if you get wrong they'll straight away give you the other clue so you got


basically <mandarin>只有三个:zhi you san ge</mandarin> tries everyday [orh]


no if you <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> then you straight away win the money already it's a one time thing you everytime you guess it's straight away guessing the exact spot, ah ah, so you think it's hard or easy


random <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> random lor <mandarin>可是:ke shi</mandarin> uh the previous winner ah he anyhow guess his house then he <mandarin>中:zhong</mandarin> that's what they say according to their Instagram feed, it's his house lah so, ya it was the Dakota crescent one block five four three level eleven ah remember


it's legit his house , that's insane luck lah, I told you got three questions mah one is postal code


then the second one, what <mandarin>什么楼:shen me lou</mandarin> ah what floor one to hundred what floor it's on, what item is it beside


furniture lor if it's in a house or could be beside a dustbin could be beside a bus stop, I don't know lah there's a exact spot which the clues will lead to also lah you can't just guess the exact location


what floor ah, ya lah then the previous one was beside a cabinet lah, it's quite random lah


maybe the, I don't know whether, I don't know whether they will say it's closed or what cause I never gotten any, maybe that's I mean ten thousand is a lot of money ah to work for


no free money in this world, then how


ah then me and charlene tried putting in our address already lah of course not lah, got two colours got two colours, the the brand <mandarin>有两个:you liang ge</mandarin> colours then


is five hundred metre away from that supermarket lah, ya lah they say got two colours ah then me and #chuan yin# search FairPrice red and blue I don't know whether white is counted colour because there's white


so it's very vague also ah, #Sheng Siong# I think what blue and green right, I I think we only ruled out Cold Storage cause Cold Storage I think got


forgot lah, Giant but Giant got a new sign got a new logo ah they they change their logo recently


I don't know whether you can see ah, it is two different shades of green I think, and white, but, I don't know whether the white is a colour cause white is just a background I guess


uh let me check


within five hundred metres


no eh, I guess it's totally random ah I got one more clue which I haven't told you ah it's uh


ya lor, they purposely one lor, so I think this game is more of luck than, more of luck than brain ah


oh, it is individual you got you got Telegram I send you on Telegram lor


I send you the username then you just click on it lor


oh wait I was reading <mandarin>上次的:shang ci de</mandarin> now got new sorry I looking at the wrong thing, but last time the clues quite quite cool one better


now the clues still quite fucking vague ah vague, actually GG ah


correct


unless it could be near somerset but I don't think it's so so


ya I spent my three hints then I collate in a list already lah the one I just read out to you, thank you


no eh


[orh], [orh] you mean like something like <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> sqkii bot <mandarin>的这个东西:de zhe ge dong xi</mandarin> ah


ya, I think I think, I think shouldn't be that hard to make lah


so you interested in making one of these box ah, [orh]


!aiya!, of course


ten thousand dollars, I will not spend it finish I will save


ya I saw especially they say what the Pfizer you know Pfizer the brand the, pharma medical ah, break wall street record


I mean but then, actually trump also, got do some good things also lah, I don't know trump isn't entirely bad lah it's just media really


[orh] <mandarin>没有我在我我在:mei you wo zai wo wo zai</mandarin> talking about trump versus biden ah <mandarin>不是没有讲:bu shi mei you jiang</mandarin> stock market


[orh], there are if each president wins there are different commodities that will rise lah they predicted it's depends which category it's in [orh]


ya lah ya lah but, saying different president will, have different effects on the stock market lor


Youtube


uh CFD ah


CFD is higher risk kind ah it's, contract for difference it's not exactly stocks you are predicting whether the stock rise or drop, something like gambling lah actually


it's very common it's a very common term in the investment world also, it's like a alternative to uh alternative to buying stocks [orh], to buying physical stocks instead of owning it you


bet with the, guy whether it rise or drop, learn how to do this or not


but I lose a lot of money, ah , I think <mandarin>我上次:wo shang ci</mandarin> lose around hundred fifty then I pull out then now I stop already [orh]


whatever ah I mean it's a learning experience


a lot of people


but a group of friends can pool together a fund ah, it's still a overall profit at the end, it's not a one man thing lor I guess


I don't know eh my my friend's father very rich one then he <mandarin>跟我们讲:gen wo men jiang</mandarin> this all this kind of strategies, ah the father


father when he was younger <mandarin>他有做:ta you zuo</mandarin> lor <mandarin>可是现在他:ke shi xian zai ta</mandarin> donate already, are you going, uh not with my current capital lah


are you going to, are you going to ORD soon, [orh] never mind


you want to play wild rift later or not


I legit use my, I use my free chest on him


everything is balanced bro, there's no such thing though, so <mandarin>你等一下要玩吗:ni deng yi xia yao wan ma</mandarin> or or you need to sleep early


okay, tomorrow, special event


[orh], today I play a lot with #wei xian# ah, he go rank so we only can play casual, then, I tried malphite I also tried malphite


and, malphite quite low damage lah but, I think need good need you need a carry to be good lor, then malphite will be


support meh I think he more like tank ah <mandarin>不是:bu shi</mandarin> support lah, none of his abilities actually support what actually it's all like


ya lah tank for sure lah, [orh]


rank promotion match ah how does that work ah, ya I saw also


ya three blue and three red


[orh] something like arena ah, so I can so I basically win three, okay lor I just try to win three lor


I don't know cause I think I'm bronze one, [orh] but all my friends actually I see <mandarin>很多他们都是:hen duo ta men dou shi</mandarin> silver gold already ah I don't know what we doing ah


I think it's whether we noob or we don't play as much I don't know


my main, I mean you know that I like to play fizz ah but, but I think I want to try to main uh


waste so much money on him already, might as well main him, but I don't think he very good lah


tomorrow, tomorrow I going to fix car then


[orh], then next time lor, wednesday ah wednesday what do I have, I just know that thursday I got


tuition again ah, tuition, wednesday I remember got someone want meet but I forgot which group already it's one of, ya forgot lah need to see I think okay ah


wednesday, is there anything


oh isn't that today isn't that tomorrow or something, so what does that mean you you want buy anything


uh <mandarin>可是:ke shi</mandarin> my kind of thing <mandarin>通常:tong chang</mandarin> won't have discount one ah it's those jewellery, so err


time passes very fast, when you are busy, so you planning to buy anything from eleven eleven


very popular on, Shopee Lazada this kind one, ya usually what it's legit very cheap one ah got, usually without discount also can buy already


!wah!, you recently change your phone is it


this model is it <mandarin>很最近的:hen zui jin de</mandarin> or it's quite long ago one


I think Apple better, overpriced ah, !wah!, eh next year next year they say clubbing <mandarin>要开:yao kai</mandarin> Liao ah


clubbing ah clubbing ah ah, I mean they say they will make they will make sure everybody go through the test ah quite burden ah


ya and they say at the door you must they use the instant test thing, so I assume it's safe just that, I think it might not be fun to club with such restrictions ah a lot of restrictions


confirm one <mandarin>所以不可以乱乱跳舞:suo yi bu ke yi luan luan tiao wu</mandarin> ah or cannot anyhow move around


ya lah it's more like a gathering ah, bar, disco night ah


emo night ah, ya lah, and, ya lah which I like lah <mandarin>因为我我去是:yin wei wo wo qu shi</mandarin> for the music one ah I like the music


but anyways need to, wear the mask inside lah, a bit, a bit a bit Sian also


(mmhmm) I'm more excited to, going overseas ah


!wah!, the vaccine is


[orh], [orh]


but got


[orh], quite sad lah, quite sad cause, overseas is a big part of every year lah


if not stay in singapore <mandarin>很闷:hen men</mandarin> ah, you also used to go overseas with your family one what


[orh], she go overseas study already is it, [orh], but but overseas quite quite Rabak right


then I think even for you you also should try to stay <mandarin>在新加坡:zai xin jia po</mandarin> ah


uh, even to study you don't want go already, oh


what time are you sleeping ah


ten PM ah, okay lah, I thinking whether I should go jogging tomorrow


but I think


ya lah usually run there, then see whether I can, I don't know


maybe bump into my friends or something, ya a lot of my friends always <mandarin>去那里跑:qu na li pao</mandarin> ah, not bad not bad


actually <mandarin>最近:zui jin</mandarin> I very lazy one ah I, I mean now that got new game to play I, I keep playing


and, got girlfriend duties [orh] boyfriend duties I mean, ya


christmas is coming lah but, I don't know eh I think #chuan yin# hosting a dinner you want come or not, on christmas christmas lor


ya they have potluck ah turkey this kind quite nice one


I mean turkey is all buy from supermarket <mandarin>这种东西:zhe zhong dong xi</mandarin> [orh]


ya lah she will he will mainly prepare for us lor then, go there have fun, ya, ya last year last year we


we mostly celebrate new year eve ah, ya but you know if


they say no more fireworks at marina bay eh, so, fireworks means <mandarin>很多人会:hen duo ren hui</mandarin> gather <mandarin>在那里:zai na li</mandarin> then


of course too many people there lah as always, national day I thought they had a smaller sized event at <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> star vista


oh ya have have have I remember it's all, it's like all the heartland places lor, I think we go eat they say at heartland places but not at marina bay


church ah, I don't know lah, rio rio is a he's a very serious christian now lah he


he he goes although he studying medicine, ya with damian they all remember


ya correct but, now he become more of a spiritual person lor, ya, then the


[orh], I don't know I think he found he found meaning in the bible or something


, correct, did you see my two thousand dollar that job thing the three days one


ya but I legit went to comment on it, ya two thousand dollars for three days, !wah!


I think I got chance get eh, I don't know ah later I need to see again


you want, got Deepavali coming up


I think so, but doesn't really affect me lah,


I forgot already, do you want to meet up next week with our, primary school friends, I don't know eh


meet us again, rio <mandarin>说:shuo</mandarin> he want six A outing ah , ya he actually ask for a six A outing but I think quite


no lah of course not he ask me personally, ya lah but I personally think <mandarin>一点难:yi dian nan</mandarin> ah


then Jomin say he saw miss Cheng today , Jomin don't know lah but


ya rio say <mandarin>他要:ta yao</mandarin> meet shereen ah, he want to talk to shereen again, kind of lah I think I think he have a certain interest towards her


I am actually I'm actually serious cause I mean they recently broke up also lah so I don't know what he doing


but will you go for a outing


really meh what's what's the chances , NUS is it I think


maybe lah but, I think it's quite no chance,


so how's your sister doing, she she still with she's still with her boyfriend ah


!wah!


social activities [orh], the boyfriend <mandarin>也是在:ye shi zai</mandarin> same school as her is it, [orh] then quite, quite fated lah


[orh] then when will you be like your sister


[orh] I mean it's err


what time you waking up tomorrow


you need go work right, !wah! <mandarin>这种时间:zhe zhong shi jian</mandarin> is a no go


ya lor I think so ah, then I think, I think you should sleep earlier, okay lor then


call girlfriend then sleep also