cause I know that that because I know that I won't be needing to do anything when I'm in bomb selection when I'm in bomb diffuser unless you tell me got world war two bomb lah that's all later I will have to deal with lah


ya lah that was a world war two a world war two weapon, I mean singapore is not the kind of country what singapore is not that type of country what


like they send troops to fight other people wars, , okay


okay , okay (uh huh), okay okay


(uh huh), okay, uh number four is green colour then what white colour, okay okay


ya lah okay ya that one I know that one I know uh like you they got deploy troops to Afghanistan, that one obviously lah that one is international thing what, oh but I mean singapore is not the type that sends like those kind of people for to fight wars for other people


uh is more of international coalition only is not like US lah your war is my war my war is your war, maybe


depends on the topic lah, okay okay, boycotting [orh] uh


trade ah trade ah, , I can't really help you for that one I can't really help you with that one !wah! leader of opposition you think you who sia


you think you who sia, , , ya lah ya lah


democracy uh, okay


okay that one I can that one I can help you if you say yes lah, so we need it lah so so you need it or you don't need it, wait so you need it so you need it right


so we need it right, so you said don't need plain clothes but I think I need plain clothes


because like you see ah uniform is like you can't really get into the situation like okay let's just put in FBI in this, (uh huh) !huh! okay


sure CMP, but how can they go out without plain without plain clothes officer, okay so CMB all inside lah


okay so what so what's the point so what are you trying to say no to


no but I think I think that err we need it but the powers of, and the enactment powers of a plain clothes officer cannot be fully until a uniformed officer is there to supervise


okay so like you know plain clothes right I don't think that they can just do whatever they want but they have a set of rules that are different from the usual set of rules, you know what I mean so they they can arrest but they cannot they can arrest but they cannot like bring in you bring it in you know what I mean


like they have to call for backup lah basically basically you need to call back up lah, because if there's uniformed officers is bad for their safety also is gone imagine you go into camp territory but then you're like cops uniform then


Kena shot, ya that's my point lah that's my point lah, but I think that it can only be used like for situation such as that lah like err organized crime drugs and narcotics


not like a full on, not like a full on like FBI kind of thing, ah, but this


but they still need to identify themselves before what making an arrest or something you know what I mean like FBI rules lah FBI rules lah


<tamil> இல்லை:illai </tamil> [dah], no lah


!huh!, what, why you want to say something ah, uh no lah <tamil> வாழ்க்கை அப்படி தான் போது:valkkai appadi thaan pothu </tamil> like go up down up down up down


, , okay lah the news news started COVID ah COVID nineteen yesterday was a wildfire right two days ago


two days ago got fire right at err sembawang the temple, a temple lah a temple the chinese temple ya got fire I don't know lah I don't know why but I know got fire, I don't know probably cause you are living under a rock


okay lah poly then err not that much looking forward to lah because I just looking forward to things getting better


<tamil> இல்லை:illai </tamil> [dah],


spirit animals <tamil> என்ன:enna </tamil> [dah] <tamil> இல்லை:illai </tamil> I don't believe in that


(hmm) okay lah <tamil> இப்போ வந்து:ippo vandthu </tamil> I just keep to myself only lah everybody just keeping to themselves only my class <tamil> எல்லா எல்லாரும் வந்து:ellaa ellaarum vandthu </tamil> keeping to themselves only, but we talk lah once in awhile we talk like sometimes


no lah don't go outing one lah I not time for that lah got better things to do, what you mean


(uh huh), ah no everybody they go mass comm got one guy go mass comm, ya, then got another guy go design another guy go design I don't know what design


design design design design design, , ya that day I saw him ravin he okay lah now year one


ah okay lah he looks abit different that's probably because he wear uniform lah, probably cause he wear uniform lah cause he business right business uniform long sleeve shirt long pants formal shoes


err logistics I think logistics management logistics management,


reuben, reuben, ya I don't care about him already


don't know, err I don't know I don't think I can see myself in the aviation sector anymore, I mean I don't know lah like now COVID see how lah ten twenty years down the road


I've been like ya I mean I am capable of doing the jobs there but, see lah whether, ya


ah ya that's the thing, no, there's still like human factor in need of it


no not necessarily what not necessarily, because like human factor you can you need to feel how the feeling is more of a, ah no <tamil> அது வந்து:athu vandthu </tamil> ah human factor <tamil> ரொம்ப இருக்கு:rompa irukku </tamil> like err <tamil> எப்படி அந்த:eppadi andtha </tamil> the pilot how is a pilot like err feeling in the moment you know what is a thing that's going wrong like if you have an engine failure you can't just tell a robot if they have <tamil> நெஞ்சு வலி:naenju vali </tamil> you know


UAV if UAV crash got people die is it no no what, I mean just because that's because it's humanly control right by human right


ya, , ah ya ya ya that's true that's another thing


, k lah !duh!, ah


I mean like I want to play with them lah I like playing with them you know can talk to them


okay lah kay bye, ah wait ah wait ah, ah [dey] wait ah wait ah [dey]


wait ah [dey]


(mm) okay [lah] bye [dah], okay bye


okay err let's start, can you hear me, (uh huh) I'm fine lah everyday how are you, okay [dey] err let's start right okay maybe we start lah how you tell me a story lah about


ya ya ya are you in bluetooth


!wah! eight to twelve ah, !wah! steady sia eight to twelve eight to twelve


ya now what, ya study eh what study break work from home lah actually you know like [dey] <tamil> இரண்டுமே:irandume </tamil> I prefer right your one better lah because right err for me <tamil> உனக்கு வந்து எனக்கு வந்து ஒரே ஒரு நாள் தான்:unakku vandthu enakku vandthu ore oru naal thaan </tamil> school so is really like I have to put everything all my subjects everything together into one of the


days lah so really yah precisely, okay lah err so how you got eat anything recently like something you fancy, ya


Astons halal meh, [orh] Andes [orh] okay okay


SSC the basement <tamil> கீழே போறேளே:kile porele </tamil> escalator lah okay uh what happened was okay basically I went inside right I was looking for like a chinese manager okay cause he's name was lim something something but then when I went inside I was like they told me there's three managers called lim


ya ya exactly lah


know the the form I already fill up I put everything done given already, the the manager was sitting sitting down there, and then I just left it on the table then I just went off


so I went to the on top one lah


ya then I went and came back below the manager was err sitting down he was waiting for me I think he was pissed off lah cause he was he told me to sit down there and then just ya wait just wait


ah then after that the manager was telling me about the working conditions blah blah blah blah blah blah


food hygiene cert ya eh ya food safety lah what blood test what urine test, !huh! serious


!oho! mine mine is nothing like that mine is just a one day course err for what ah err is like, oh really I didn't know okay lah after that the manager like not happy with me lah then he told me after he did a short five minute interview he told me ah we will get back to you and I'm still waiting for the get back to you


this was two weeks ago, what what what what option was it what what school was it


RP, !wow! okay lah what's your okay how was your describe <tamil> எப்படி உன்:eppadi un </tamil> EAE experience <tamil> இருந்தது என்ன எல்லாம் பண்ண என்ன எல்லாம் பண்ணல:irunthathu enna ellaam panna enna ellaam pannala </tamil> like how was your interview and stuff


oh, okay okay, wait last year you okay


ya what I thought you can do the, but you can skip one year right like <tamil> நீ நல்லா:ni nallaa </tamil> you can skip one year what lah


oh then DSA is the one that first year, [orh]


ya, !fuh! yo steady lah this one future air traffic controller on the spot lah


then eh what you write up like is it supposed to be what am I going to be in the future what what err


oh okay okay, okay


!wah! not bad leh like that good sia, what are the other choices you apply why you don't want come NYP also !wah! stupid sia you, so you can see me you know eh <tamil> என் என்னை பார்க்கலாம்:en ennai paarkklaam </tamil> ya lah you also take engineering what


but at least two years same topics, no no no no no no no, no we have both also


like aerospace engineering and systems management, ah see excuses lah excuses lah , ah true lah okay


ya for me ah okay tomorrow is my results you know for the streaming of which one I'm going to get, which cause I'm common engineering <tamil> தானே இப்ப நான்:thane ippa naan </tamil> so like , first year <tamil> வந்து இரண்டுமே:vandthu irandume </tamil> like err you know kilesh


ah ya ya ya okay okay err okay cause right everything mah like common engineering is just recently they did lah cause NYP last time they got two lah so


ah two different streams so first of all they have the mechanical science stream then second they have electronical sides ya so electrical and mechanical streams <tamil> இரண்டுமே இருந்தது:irandumee irundthathu </tamil> ya now they combine into common engineering lah so what happens is I did my first sem right


ya uh, story lah don't know what is this lah don't even congrats me on anything okay okay okay err so okay ya the thing is, uh


where was I oh my god okay okay I remember I remember and then after my first sem now this sem right I have to choose between two of the things like you know the mechanical engineering <tamil> அப்போ அதை சொன்னேன்:appo athai sonen </tamil> leh, so I have to choose one of from it lah but I chose right now electrical lah so if I get into electrical means I have like course I haven't choose yet just two tracks course is next year only


electrical track lah so from there I can choose computer engineering electronics or like err the that one like two different things lah, but okay lah overall I think ya lah like the school atmosphere is I won't say is good but it's manageable ya lah RP cannot compare that is ITE lah ya eh ya I forgot one more thing


ya ya true lah I forgot one more thing I got a interview for like the you know the student union, like the school student union one ya I got interview for it ya student council lah


ya, ah temasek cannot get in one lah hard lah ah ah


[dey] temasek damn hard to get in lah


okay ngee ann is the hardest then after that got TP, exam ya ya ya ya ya, ya <tamil> ஆமாம் ஆமாம்:aamaam aamaam </tamil> that's damn ngee ann damn tough lah surprisingly who ah err chanjing got into ngee ann twenty six points leh


nursing, no okay no choice I say already right last time <tamil> எல்லாருமே:ellarume </tamil> like uh a lot of people go nursing lah ya


ya ya ya damn like one kind lah, okay honestly ah speaking of COVID just now because of that err who leon call lah cause zaya right err no she never she never okay listen to me err okay <tamil> என்ன ஆகியதுனா:enna aakiyathunaa </tamil> not not not demanding you to listen to me lah I'm telling the story so you listen to is not like listen to me now <tamil> உனக்கு புரியுதா:unakku puriyuthaa </tamil> it's not like that


okay err so <tamil> என்ன ஆகியதுனா:enna aakiyathunaa </tamil> she her she was doing clinical placements so clinical placement <tamil> நா என்னதுனு தெரியுமா என்னனு தெரியுமா:naa ennathunu theriyummaa ennanu theriyummaa </tamil> okay clinical placement you know how like engineering or other schools got internship which is the third year IT got I eight right you all gonna do I eight right


ya next time you all going to do I eight right internship like that but then, really damn good [dey] good luck [dey] <tamil> நல்லா பண்ணு:nallaa pannu </tamil> what what company do you know the company


ah okay okay okay so clinical placement, ya ya <tamil> சொல்லு சொல்லிருக்க சொல்லிருக்க:sollu sollirukka sollirukka </tamil> AV <tamil> தான்:thaan </tamil> so do you do you know the hertz thing that we are doing right now the sixteen hertz eighteen hertz and then the wave really later we get back to it I want to know more about that okay let let me tell the story first lah


so <tamil> ரொம்ப:romba </tamil> simple !chey! what simple I'm not telling a debate oh my god yesterday debate I'm just ya ya exactly, , for eh can you don't debate I already lost the debate like the the the semi finals sia


really


oh not bad leh okay so ya so because of that they have to go lah, why (uh huh), for your new friends lah this one okay lah so because of that then one of her classmates right okay not exactly COVID but it's some respiratory illness lah


then didn't do what !huh! okay not pneumonia ammonia pneumonia, is some respiratory sickness then the person, was showing symptoms then I think they quarantine the class lah blah blah blah this that lah but then end up she got it like ya but she never got it she got the symptoms of it like two days ago I I was talking to her lah about something then she err she voice message me err first leon she voice message leon about something lah then she post about leon


then then I was talking to her about some topic lah <tamil> என்ன ஆச்சு:enna aachsu </tamil> then she voice message me then her voice was like damn like you know how you sick Kena block nose so you like that kind of err damn, muffled voice then she was telling me yah like just now lah but we are not sick lah so <tamil> என்ன ஆச்சு:enna aachsu </tamil> she was telling me about


the guy lah what happened like then the quarantine lah then at first she had fever only now suddenly today she err put on story she got lost of taste buds, then then then leon also then I message her just now lah ah her close friends or something I I don't know I think close friends


oh I think main lah I don't know lah err ah then then, ah I message lah sometimes you should go check it out or something lah then she was like !aiya! it's okay after my CP I will go and check it out lah then leon <tamil> க்கும் சொல்லிருக்கா போல:kkum sollirukkaa pola </tamil> leon <tamil> னும் கேட்டிருக்கான் என்னம்மோ:num kaetturukkaan ennammo </tamil> then leon <tamil> கிட்டையும் சொல்லிருக்கான்:kittayum sollirukaan </tamil> leon <tamil> இப்போ எனக்கு அடிச்ச்சு கேட்குறான் பாரு என்ன ஆச்சுனு நீ பேசினியா:ippo enakku adicchu kaetkuraan paaru enna aachsunu nii pesiniyaa </tamil> like like why she like that lah go what we must go tell her lah cause this one serious sia


ah then don't know lah then she she she she told me she's still sick lah but she go still take exam and stuff lah, she's still doing her CP she dealing with patients ya sia ya ya I want to tell him also exact ya sia eh come the rifle inside [dey] who is it


ya ya sorry sorry revolver lah revolver yah ah ah ah boss okay ya ya ya


ah then like ya lah err we must go try to convince her lah she's still taking her clinical placement she putting so many people in risk sia the family the people the patients she treating


okay can you do a demonstration you know opera singers they will have the the thing I don't want to sing it out lah why, try <tamil> பண்ணு:pannu </tamil> lah can lah can lah come !aiya! five years okay okay dude dude I give you five dollars simple can you just do the high pitch come on lah bro what is this five years cannot cannot back this up


excuses that's pitch, okay ya full disclosure I know what you're talking about lah I just wanna I wanted to see you err be with the


eh I saw a youtube video right eight K OLED TV sia, eight K OLED now eight lah where got no lah eight lah eight lah eight lah I I don't know leh really


just imagine ah the youtube videos right I saw right they got put artbox you know artbox therapy, ya he put the eight K video err and then the youtube comments was like good job then also criticize lah say cannot lah everyone using OLED I what hundred and eighty P what is this twenty twelve is it the whole comments was like err hundred and eighty P okay okay okay


then some of them it's the same thing you know when you listen to four D, ya same same same same QLED is nice lah it's just like, (mmhmm) no got ya


okay cause is like some mine also that one right but mine is err everything was wireless connected so no need lah wifi no need direct so there's no need ethernet cables everywhere lah, eh ah ya four K I think four


can lah the thing is right mine is not ya close enough lah no difference also your eyes cannot see everything, your eyes is, err step lah now


I I also know what's the problem what's the problem, no lah your pixels also your pixel density is different what, ya


that's common that's common sense lah, that's common sense lah you got sixty inch TV you got sixty different locations where your surface area of pixels are, ya, ya


[dey] OLED right I think you know lah but is it cool eh eh cool <tamil> தானே எப்படி எப்படி தெரியுமா:thane eppadi eppadi theriyumaa </tamil> like the individual like <tamil> ஒவ்வரு:ovvaru </tamil> cell or <tamil> ஒவ்வரு:ovvaru </tamil> cell is actually automatically blocked out lah for OLED you think you think that's cool


what okay technology okay true okay lah


can lah [dey] okay err some controversial okay some deep questions I want to get you know more as a friend lah okay, tell me the highest point in your life don't tell me your birthday lah don't tell me when you have kids lah but as of now what's your high <tamil> என்ன என்ன நினைக்கிற:enna enna ninaikkira </tamil> what's your inspiration what is your highest level of <tamil> புரியுதா நான் என்ன கேட்கிறேன்ட்டு:puriyuthaa naan enna kaekiraenttu </tamil> inspiration <tamil>இல்லை:illai</tamil> highest moment in life


overall lah eighteen years of this whole life living in singapore living in so many places tampines lah yishun lah, dubai ah okay lah got any dubai okay lah


describe your dubai moment in a few minutes I said describe summarize it, then what were you expecting, did you


really eh eh eh don't don't bluff me lah serious lah serious lah, but have you seen a police chase in dubai like police chase <tamil> பார்த்தியா:paartthiyaa </tamil> like Lambo and stuff or is it all myth, oh


okay lah


I still usually get confused sia abu dhabi and dubai, no I think it's two different places ah but it's all in the UAE oh really


oh okay why I'm asking is because, damn what both serious ah that small ah


oh because why I'm asking is you know IPL the indian cricket thing is happening right there ya, USA [orh] UFC, ah okay


ah see ya alot ya ya


okay TV shows or anything lah what is this lah boring life sia


P PS four err rate the eh okay wait I want to talk about movies first can can we talk movies first can anot talk talk talk anything you like ya talk about uh what what is there anything you like okay if you were to see a politician in a movie who would it be and why


orange, okay okay ya it's orange orange right it's orange lah, okay yah putin ya I agree with you lah eh speaking of putin the song comes out putin


put out put out, okay [dey] <tamil>என்ன:enna</tamil> why <tamil> நா:naa </tamil> okay you know putin KGB become politician he has a very good tactic of err he was in the prime minister then he become DPM then prime minister


he president sorry sorry err sorry err president then prime minister president prime minister, ya ya ya, ya loopholes lah ya ya


russian politics so slogan russian politics everything is a loophole if you think enough of it, ya, okay let's not go controversial lah please


okay let's not go controversial shall we, okay say the movie is enough ah ah okay besides putin any other like famous movies you want to watch, okay not famous one that you have watched


really ah I watch <tamil> சிங்கம்:singham </tamil> three yesterday only bro, like, no any movies lah like whatever you watch I don't I never say blockbuster right can be flop also right


okay rep I repi repi R I S A risam, okay


err can you Whatsapp me later


the robber lah,


like how personal <tamil> எப்படி:eppadi </tamil> like family relation is it the brother or did he oh that was the brother, !hey! can you spoil it to me


I think your flop movies and your hate movies are totally fake you told me <tamil> விவேகம்:vivegam </tamil> was like shit


true true again if you are that bored then any any movie is a hit movie for you lah, which which one <tamil> விவேகம்:vivegam </tamil> or the, okay okay


ah can lah understand understand, ya ya ya


ya ya who is he lah but when did he act in a movie yah I think I saw the movie can you can you can you give me a just a brief storyline of it whether I can remember, (uh huh)


that kind of movies are entertainer movies lah like different genre already ya ya ya


ya true true I understand understand understand eh but talking about that kind of movie I think <tamil> விவேகம்:vivegam </tamil> is like that lah is like very low class but <P1> hasan minhaj </P1> in all the movies right is like very low actors low budget like not many expectations lah but


ya ya ya ya ya, ya ya ya I agree with you lah


ok <tamil> விவேகம்:vivegam </tamil> I don't I completely I cannot even acknowledge it lah it's terrible choices lah ajith he put, again the <tamil> விவேகம்:vivegam </tamil> just that one is nicer, ya <tamil> நட்பே துணை:natpe thunai </tamil> not <tamil> நட்பு துணை:natpu thunai </tamil> ya that movie is quite long lah


okay honestly right honestly I watched it a few times at first I was really into into it lah but I now I started to dislike <P1> hiphop tamizha </P1> already, I like his songs damn nice I like his OG songs I don't like his new songs


ya songs are nice but his songs mostly are ripped off you know like from <tamil> நட்பே துணை:natpe thunai </tamil> songs most of it is all like completely ripped


is is quite nice also is basically right the guy have you seen joker, okay brother okay


some people make fun of him for having that and then he also cannot control himself then some some a bit of like violence here and there but generally it's a fun movie to watch lah, ya that that's all


no no no no no it's different different it's just recent only this year only, ah okay, [dey] <tamil> என்ன என்ன படம் தெரியுதா:enna enna padam theriyuthaa </tamil> lah


okay ya mahesh, ya, ah <P1> mahesh babu </P1> ya I watched it in India I watched it in India like two years ago ya that one that's okay


eh that one is like psychology that one lah, it's like the serial killer guy lah different already lah but <tamil> நட்பே:natpe </tamil> ya but he he really does telungu not tamil


ah <tamil> அதுவும்:athuvum </tamil> okay I watched it a few times lah, okay not bad also err those kind right err is like


cause he's the kind of guy who is very hit in tell you he want to broaden his field, ya that's why he is like a super star there


ya ah okay lah if you want to if you are interested in err err what


ya it's I send you the movie later it's a political movie also you also know arjun the action star one, tamil tamil guy movie, arjun I forgot the name of the movie is like he became a CM for one day and all the things he does


for the thing ya so good that's it that's like one of the top level movies lah that's like a solid movie I can send you the link lah quite interesting also and okay ya speaking of movies I think that's done lah err, okay what else you wanna talk about err what else you wanna talk about


oh ah PS four okay ya ah rates have you seen the X box release also


ya lah but still I think okay but I don't like charlie's really I also never watch I just saw the picture not bad lah, !huh!, you're not going to why, I I don't think I am also lah


ah, is it, honestly ah if you think about it PS four is like the OG is like iphone seven and iphone eight of PS you know, the PS three or PS four ah PS three PS three


true true, ya but generally is the PS three ya I agree with you PS three, ya, I'm just you know I'm just lying down with my legs


a spread like that like the camera like over there ya my legs are spread out it's like !huh! I won't exactly call that lah so it's relaxing bro, okay lah err what to talk about okay


err tell me something PS, why, ah okay okay understand understand


ya ya ya ah nice nice, (hmm) ya true true true ah


PS four four hundred ya then why how you see I don't understand


no I don't think lah I don't want also lah I don't think so


even if I buy right ya, ya even if I buy right I don't think I got time to play you know it's like really packed not working and stuff lah is like I I, I don't even watch TV often so I don't think I'll


play games that often also cause school life already going to be stressful, and like CCA so much commitment ya but it's a good investment lah I would say


ya, ya lah now holiday nothing lah only when we are studying and stuff, but usually after you come RP right if you come school right eh where you going ah after this


where where why ya I know lah why alone you going there for what sia, ah okay okay


okay after you come RP right a little bit of advice lah err honestly I'm I don't think I'm the correct position to give advices lah but, don't don't slack already cause usually like attitude RP or whatever poly right you can start slacking that's like okay you can slack yes


!huh!, ya ya ya but okay get one more thing one more thing right err okay okay before you join poly ah before you join RP right the after your project you got long break right instead of wasting it on okay yes fine you can play games and stuff lah instead of wasting it right bro this


ya okay you can work lah but mainly do this lah


why, what may may maybe also there's a there's a slight hinderance, !huh!, uh but have anot can you describe it like eh don't don't go personal details and everything don't go any [dey] personal details <tamil> ஏதாவது போடாதே சும்மா:aethaavathu podaathe summa </tamil> like like


how how, okay social life lah don't pinpoint lah social life lah how is your social life


miracles okay if a miracle would do happen what miracle you want right what would it be okay don't tell me like it'll be like the politician you'll be ruler of Saudi Arabia you will be the knight of london you'll be the, ya okay don't don't <tamil> ரொம்ப:romba </tamil> over ah <tamil> போகாத:pokaatha </tamil> like keep it grounded don't tell me billionaire trillionaire like that <tamil> அப்படி எல்லாம் முடியாது:appadi ellam mudiyaathu </tamil> like something logical


!aiya! don't care lah let's just say lah miracle then I will also say I'll be the one to rule over at the nine planets of like the whole solar system the stuff


okay uh expecting big more okay less grounded and more like magical maybe, can okay lah magical can lah not bad lah !huh! I forgot what I wanted to be already sia I asked you the question I forgot what I wanted to say


ah okay okay one one power uh one <tamil> எப்படி:eppadi </tamil> superpower <tamil> இருந்தா என்ன இருக்கும் உனக்கு:irunthaa enna irukkum unakku </tamil> what what do you think lah, time travel nice why


okay time travel one time or like multiple times and you won't be able to change anything would you accept it, you ah wait, go back or forward or both back already not forward no no tell me either one option go forward or go back


that is not time travel


okay in that same person in that okay okay okay okay okay okay, okay okay understand, okay for me right it'll be like err, one thing I will have right the whole world I don't want to sound philosophical actually I don't want lah I want I want to change my answer lah so one thing I want right is to not be forgotten


like ya not not not emotional forgotten kind lah it's more of the long run not to be forgotten


okay <tamil> ஏதாவது கேள்வி இருக்க கேளு:aethaacathu kaelvi irukka kaelu </tamil> [dah] you are so quiet [dey]


what do you mean don't know like what are you cooking are you cooking anything wait you going out right, ah okay okay say , okay NS how faris sad sia eh but I think he likes it lah


well I I don't think he'll call NS enjoyable that's a very far fetch statement


ya but technically training hasn't started for him yet lah that's the lucky thing, ya oh ya true also true also true also


really ah


no like any any what field you want to go to, SCDF army navy


ah not bad, oh ya airborne early warning systems, ya ya ya, ah same lah maybe intelligence also they they they they they did have a like a what ah the brochure you also have right about the cyber


ah ya ya you want go for that or no, cause cyber also damn slack ya, ah okay okay ah ya okay okay understand understand


!huh!, !fuh! yo not bad nice selections, ya,


no lah I think singapore government tried to like recently they did a bomb blast right like last year or something, ah, okay lah as long as you don't get deployed for vietnam wars kind of post mine collection lah


of what deployment, got got got got got what exhibition I went right okay he was a general two stars ah I don't know what you call that I don't know one of the generals lah


two stars <tamil> எனக்கு இரண்டு இரண்டு:enakku irandu irandu </tamil> start <tamil>இருந்தது:irunthathu</tamil> you know what star right like the twinkle twinkle little star is here ok ah <tamil> பன்னபோது:pannapothu </tamil> his uniform right he was wearing a black colour cap, singapore logo the some sword at the behind sword and the like that what


okay <tamil> பின்னாடி அது இருந்தது:pinnaadi athur iruntathu </tamil> he was wearing number four, green colour, listen to me pants is desert camo US Afghanistan style desert camo


ya ya ya ya <tamil> நினைக்கிறேன:ninaikkiren </tamil> US desert camo and boots is, err brown colour also cool sia black beret lah


ya okay more of a diplomacy lah


eh speaking of that right my debate have three topic you know would you be interested in listening to it, maybe okay when do you so it's maybe it's on, dude you don't have to contribute anything I just tell you the topic do you think it's easy or hard and if you got any points that come to your mind just say lah okay firstly


was boycotting china this house would support boycott, ya grassroot movement lah so it's a grassroots movement for boycotting china I was indeed no I was in the I was the leader of opposition


!huh! ah cause I was given leader of opposition lah, I don't want to say it out loud now also lah if you have a certain, party member right here in singapore I think very good phenomenal jobs lah not bad lah I support him lah and his cause not exactly his motives but he cause should be ya it's interesting lah eh singapore needs it lah secondly he was err


what what he say lah shit ah okay ya police uniforms right are police uniforms a like we should ban plain clothes police so it's not exactly spy work but we should just ban like people like with who are police officers but err in civilian clothing


we should ban that so I was in the, I said no ah I didn't say no they choose to no sorry sorry yes yes yes no no no no no Tombalik I was in the yes I was the ya I was a PM ya


ya we no wait no I was not needing it sorry, yes why


okay no no I'm telling you right the the the motion of this states that <tamil> எப்படி தெரியுமா:eppadi theriyumaa </tamil> we should ban those people but exemption is all those sabotage all those espionage kind of police work right that's going to go one we just want to ban the broader spectrum


what thing no that one we allow plain clothes officers all the espionage tactics and undergarment that one we allow we don't want, bag aren't getting oregon we don't want


ban the overall general ok the points I have actually raised right like my I was a as my team we raise right is because we went through the underlying foundation of why we why this kind of police were like lah so <tamil> என்ன ஆகியதுனா:enna aakiyathunaa </tamil> like we were talking about


[orh] okay okay, but now you are not seperating plain clothes and normal clothes you are saying that, ah okay understand ah that's a good that's a good stance lah not bad lah quite quite a good stance


ya,


agree agree that's a good stance lah not bad lah, solid solid I'll give it a a eight, ah


you should actually try debating not bad leh honestly, ya, like the role of what I'm doing right now right is the role a a prime minister or a leader of opposition so you are setting it up like what is the rules what is the guidelines you have to follow that's a very good thing lah not bad


what do you mean no lah just talk about something lah, okay where you got something you got something !huh! you got something no no no you have something just say


ah so


COVID ah, eh wait why why what happen, where really why wait how did I not know this news


ah [dey] okay lah honestly you actually can lah err what err, okay any any uh long plans you have right now any anything you are looking forward to besides poly and besides PS five launch


in terms of, ah okay okay can understand


eh <tamil> ஏதாவது:aethaavathu </tamil> okay one thing that have you watch any power rangers before, do you heard of spirit animals, ya like spirit animals


ah okay lah can lah same lah same lah, same lah same lah, why why you like that you never go outing or anything with your school meh


why you like that ah did anyone from your school eh from your class go to same course same engineering as yours like from ITE right your class did anyone else like go to RP or like go to engineering section


from engineering, ah not bad leh, RP also ah pizza hut what go to pizza hut, [orh] design


I got I got my poly got people from design come to engineering sia, weird combination ya speaking of that ravin err what did you see him lately


but how how is he like is he still like it's him or different, in what terms ah


what what is his course business only or like business management blah blah blah, logistics !wah! interesting ah interesting lah, I saw who ah ah who is it I forgot who as well already wait err some !huh!


no eh ya I did saw reuben I did saw reuben but I didn't talk to him lah, ya, [dey] <tamil> என்ன உன்:enna un </tamil> life <tamil>பற்றி சொல்லு:parri sollu</tamil> like what where do you okay talk about imagining intentions but where do you intend


to see yourself in the future <tamil> அதை பற்றியா கொஞ்சம்:athai parriyaa koncham </tamil> short ah sweet ah, why eh why why why why why I want to listen to this please tell me


eh what [dey], what what is is this why demotivation demotivating yourself man


but okay I don't do you think like personally do you think that err automation can replace your job, why


no are you going to be a pilot or going to be air traffic controller


ah but pilot now we do have U UAV what, I mean you could have like err we have


okay ya true but very rare to see UAV crash right, ah ya okay okay ya ya good point lah good choice also lah [dey] okay for me also right I am a bit skeptical lah cos I told you what I want to be in the future like physics right


then it's not whether the job will go away but the job will get more and more demanding [dey]


oh you don't want to play okay you want to play or you don't want to play


okay if you want more people right I can try ask like people to join lah, if you don't mind


err okay lah not bad lah uh what ah oh IPL don't need to watch right at night also damn tough lah


okay [dey] bye


okay ah okay


okay,


okay okay


okay


okay lah full name <P1>mohammad haikal bin hasani</P1> can just call me Haikal lah so err


actually what what I had planned for this year was, before that aku kerja dekat <P1>public utilities board</P1> lah uh it was ya you you know ah


okay, so ya so that was my first job lah ever since aku ORD I I've I've been working there err untuk enam tahun ah so err so err


I was in the I was doing err project management in their construction line lah, ah, yes


uh aku apply kerja tu and uh, they get back to me, like within a few weeks, it was quite a quick quick response lah, and the, ah ya ya ya ya


back then was was much simpler times lah so, then err


err when I started, when I just got the job like six months into the job


it was just a job for me, uh it's just a job for me to pay the bills lah, and ah just to, to to to earn to earn money lah, I rather than kau dah ORD abeh duduk rumah tak buat apa-apa [kan] so err so might as well


I just took took up the job lah so err when I took up the job I aku got a lot of free time and aku pun look around aku tengok kawan-kawan aku aku punya NS friends


most of them they further their studies, so aku pun fikir I think I should also do that tapi I also I also made a mistake, like aku like follow the aku follow the, like in a way follow the trend bukan ikut hati bukan ikut hati sendiri ah


ah, so or everyone's anytime at aku was like saying to myself oh everyone's furthering their studies so I should also take up a further my studies ah I didn't I I didn't really err, dig dig dig dig about it


I was like okay ah just go go go ahead with it


doing project management then might as well just get a, a a degree uh which, is related to my work lah so err maybe err err few years down the road err


I apa my boss, I have good relation with my boss then they they they see an opportunity in me then is err kirakan err is one way for me to progress lah, down my career path lah in in my in my company at that time


so I I took up my, ya go ahead, oh okay err I was from poly I I went to singapore poly I took up uh civil engineering ya ah


err, it it it, err, it's related lah but, uh not I I my my scope, of work was not really into the err engineering aspect ah it's more to the project management side


it was just like ah, I just take up this course ah it wasn't err err it wasn't it wasn't like oh aku passionate about this course err aku nak nak jadi engineer no ah in it was nothing like that lah


ya, ah apa ni ah, so ah


ya I I can't relate I can relate, to do what you are you are facing right now lah, even before ORD during my poly I went for my err internship


so it was during my internship that that made me err think twice to to join the construction industry, err it was, in a way I would say more of


a bad experience what I went through, internship aku yang really opened up my eyes yang eh !siala! rabak ah industry, ah, the working hours the nature of the work uh the work environment


err err ya, err pasal okay, err


just sharing my my my experiences lah, okay okay , so err apa ni for my internship


ya they attach me to a local construction company, err so, ya I mean I think it's it's the same for all industries lah or you can see a big difference between a local company and err err foreign or multinational company lah


I err in terms of budget in terms of work environment and all that lah so I was attached to a local construction company lah, so the first day I reported to work err like aku masuk dia punya office the office is a


uh its a container office lah because it's a construction site apa but this ah this construction site okay lah ah wasn't like those like ulu ulu punya tempat ah, ah the the project I was attached to they were doing a, a ah


a, a junior college ah so aku first day report to to the, the office aku masuk aje dia punya in the office, everyone in the office was so busy with their work


acknowledge, in their office ya that was that was how I felt lah


and dia punya office boy is not a local guy tau is not a local guy it's not uh it's not even a student, it's a it's a foreigner I think ah he he's an indian guy


ah and he he's employed ya dia kirakan macam those bangla worker tapi sedap dia ada education he has a degree in india but it wasn't recognised, and because you can speak well so they they they they put him as an office boy


ah, so ah, he was the first guy who acknowledged me


ah, abeh ah, then after that dia panggil aku dia bawa aku pergi jumpa the boss lah the manager lah, the project manager err then the project manager


on that day on that day ah


uh I think every every everywhere you work lah every month they will have a progress meeting ah, ah something macam kau kau kat kau SCDF [kan]


so the, and uh kirakan ah


ah okay for now you, you just follow my engineer


so kirakan project manager tolak aku pergi engineer


these big drawings construction drawings


err bigger than A three size lah is kirakan is maybe maybe like, err the TV size


this ah project lah, ah aku iya [kan] aje lah


like err and also err apa err, err err terkejar-kejarkan err apa err


ah ah ah ah aku just like


so, that that repeated for maybe two or three days ah, two or three days datang ah like eh !siala! orang lain pun yang lain pun tak layan aku semua yang the engineer the engineer lain yang who are not indians is most of them are chinese and most of them are malaysian chinese ah


who who was was I was supposed to, to follow, shadow ah kononnya dia pun busy rabak dia aku tengok dia muka dia pun dah macam zombie ah


serious serious muka dia dah macam zombie


so okay lah and then, so bila-bila ah [dah] boring dah mendak nak mampus aku just jalan ah keluar jalan-jalan but then apa ah


after a few days pun it's the same it's the same thing, weeks tak tak silap aku ada lagi satu engineer engineer ah engineer baru masuk engineer dia engineer baru ni masuk dia sekali pandang kau aku memang tahu lah dia ni engineer dia pun dari india juga ah


he literally, took up my my my place ah kirakan dia macam ibarat ganti aku ah, at first bila dia dia datang like, the first few days dia masuk aku tak berbual dengan dia sangat ah pasal aku tak tahu dia engineer as in aku tahu dia engineer he was part of the company is an


employee of the company tapi aku didn't know his background so hari-hari ah


ah kita attachment semua kita nak kena err put up a report apa kita punya own individual report, ah aku pun need someone to to to give me some input ah like all these technical technical details apa kita buat apa benda yang bangla bangla


ya ya I am ah, ya err, I'm I'm the I'm engineer but not for this project my upcoming project haven't start yet, so that explains a lot lah kenapa dia dia macam aku duduk lepak aje tak sebab dia punya project belum start lagi so that's why the the company


I asked him to to come over to this project first sambil tunggu the his project start lah


ah minta tolong dia untuk aku punya report ah individual report ah


ah so ya


the only, err the higher up


err wasn't the the macam mana nak cakap eh ah, there there are some ladies who are macam rude ah dia orang dia orang can do both the office work and the site work tapi yang that time aku punya internship my project manager she was more of the office type lah


so dia duduk office aje ah kalau higher ups ni semua ah dia orang jarang datang site, at most pun dia orang datang ah apa once err, once a month ah just for the meeting ah just for the progress meeting


ya probably they want kalau dia orang pergi site pun nak tengok progress you won't go into


ah ya ya, so ya then err that that was it lah


ah budak attachment ah, it's like maybe err five five workers five staff or five to six ah


so hari-hari kau datang office eh kita masuk kita punya site office sebelum masuk kau nak kena buka kasut kau ah, so satu hari tu aku aku macam biasa report late to work


local poly ke apa ah local student aku dah excited ah at least ada member eh pasal kau hari-hari kerja pun muka muka sama mendak ah


, he's from uh


err err err apa ni err BCA building construction authority kirakan macam mana nak cakap eh


ya, ah ah ah, so ah and ah this ah


organisation he he he is a student from this err organisation ah


err, at that aku tak tahu lah sekarang still I think now still the same tapi back then, err the the students from china during the err


so okay lah aku ingatkan ah okay lah at least ni ada attachment ada budak attachment okay lah, try try to


ah err just talk ah pasal


err like err, just err or just hi bye gitu ah,


uh, , what what's the


a'ah ah dia lagi lepak dari aku lah [siol],


err macam selalu err apa err


ah ya ya ya ah


ah ah tapi when


ah so you you just have to be smart about it ah tapi yang this this other guy like he literally like, err dia punya suka ah


err err like, like you have to make you use you have to network ah you have to network you had to make connections tapi dia ni dia ni tak ada connections langsung ah ah


ah office boy approach tapi language barrier juga ah, ah language barrier and


err in in his own world lah, err err


eh !siala! rabak apa aku tengok the working environment macam it's so stressful aku tengok the the engineer yang dari india tu kiwak muka dah macam zombie


ah ya office hours ah


stay back at work sia


like ya it's true err aku can understand they don't take me seriously and aku pun wasn't expecting them to take me seriously ah aku kau cakap gini pun aku teringat ada satu kali tu it was the first tak silap aku the first day ah the first day


so [kan] aku bilang kau apa ni err, everyone was so busy pasal they have a meeting so after that err they all left for the meeting


you singaporean why you take this course singaporean where where want to work in construction one work under the hot sun work under the hot sun ini semua gedebak gedebuk kiwak aku dengar terus down [siol] serious aku dengar terus down


I was still young ah you you you didn't really understand it lah tapi bila dah lama kau dah ini kau dah kerja kau dah in the industry eh


then, only then you understand, what he meant ah which is true ah which is true ah ah ya ya, so apa ya so, after the experience aku was like !siala! gini rabak [pe] err


this industry like this is the work environment that I'm gonna be in, so err err lepas bila aku ORD tu tu yang aku pun make me, err


err wasted [kan]


err in this industry just just to just to have a job ah just to have a job and just help out help out the, uh pay the bills have part of the family ya which I which I did lah then


which I applied ah ni I applied the stat boards LTA public utilities board ni semua so okay lah Alhamdulillah err within one or two weeks they get back to me and aku got the job quite quite fast ah


err, this thing, ya bila aku dapat kerja PUB pun like


there were also doubt in my mind lah, then they because it's a big company apa so they have this apa induction course ah, for all the new stuff so okay go for the induction course get to meet all the new staff of course you all the staff are all are of different ages ah it's not it's it's no longer


err that time was like what, early twenties lah [kan] early twenties


ah ya ya around your age ah oh muda lagi ni kau punya ni kau punya ah first kerja aku cakap a'ah


government state board ni semua you know lah because they see government iron rice bowl which is true lah definitely I I won't I won't a dispute that ah, and uh so when they when they say that aku pun like eh


!alamak! aku pun did I make the right move ke tak eh err err like, err kirakan start from the bottom ah start from scratch


then you literally work your way up ah, but at that point, didn't didn't thought had that in mind lah, and aku pun so it it gave me like


err doubts lah aku pun like, did I make the right move ke tak eh, ya so


err ya what he say really err apa like, err, ah like, ah tak bedek ah but


and it also ah , was stuck in my mind for for a few weeks ah abeh aku pun fikir balik macam [sial] ah aku baru dapat ni kerja abeh takkan aku nak takkan aku nak resign oh just, because aku nak nak nak listen to that guy [kan]


uh apa uh, I mean apa you


you need to have some technical knowledge lah which I was lacking ah, err with the engineering the in terms of engineering aspect, I was lacking ah, so but we were my nature of work, was more into project management


which is actually, project management is quite, broad ah, like this all kind of all industries in a way they have, project management in a way it's just different different areas lah


so, ah, oh okay


ya ya, so ya err, my nature of work also we we deal with consultants


ah consultants usually they provide the technical err aspect ah, so err when when when whenever you, macam you're not sure from a technical point of view you I can always refer to the consultants ah so


ya it turns out it didn't turn out, quite that bad also so ya I mean you just make do with what you, from aku punya nature of work pun project management pun what what I


what I, what was more on the soft skills, back then pun aku wasn't really a, a a apa ni I'm, I am a very quiet guy lah aku not those person go around talk talk to people I mean I still am


but, ah when the work requires me to I can now I can I can do it lah, ah, improve on my soft skills and then dekat err during my course of work pun there like what I told you ah who decided to further my studies take up


a a, a degree lah then I took up a degree in building and project management, I took up a part-time degree, , err previously was unisim now they call it SUSS ah


ya so, then you decided not to, okay ah, good for you lah good for you I mean


ah ya so, I took up, err my part-time degree, like I told you before lah apa aku time ambil degree pun was like, oh everyones


at that time ya like, uh aku was just following the trend ah tapi now now aku fikir balik I shouldn't have do that lah I mean ya I you should still take up a degree but then, really take up a degree in what really interest you ah


and uh what you really want to do ah pasal that time,


ya, since you say it like that pada aku in my opinion it also depends on the industry you are in ah so you are in the what in the arts industry media industry


arts industry ya okay which I agree lah which a degree is not really ah apa a need ah, in the industry because your industry uh, is more on your portfolio


on the works ya is on the work that you do, so ya you don't really need a a a degree, when aku did my degree uh


err aku did my degree while while working [kan] abeh as years go by eh, uh with the the the, bosses like


doing this long term, like ah so like


like they are just like pasal okay, uh we are a big, organisation [kan] like ya we have a apa like uh


CEO tapi stat board they call it CE lah, CE and then they got their directors lah and then they got their assistant director they got this and that they got a lot of hierarchy ah, when kau pun SCDF pun you should know ah [kan] hierarchy ah it's like


like apa sia ni like, like sometimes the conflict like


dispute it lah apa err government really iron rice bowl lah as in like, if you are you are holding a high, position you are literally ah living a comfortable life ah, but aku just don't see myself doing that long term ah


it was, in my last year of my degree then I decided to, to, to to change line ah aku decided to go into aku wanted to do media so, err after my apa ni err my degree ended


under TV production ah, under it's under WSQ ah


at first aku didn't know about it also like as in I I do, ah apa sebelum aku enroll under mediacorp, ya I I did some I did some research ah of courses of media courses ah apa that's where aku like macam aku menyesal lah !siala! like instead of me doing this degree in project management I should have like straightaway


took up a media degree ya then for me to, transition into the media industry which is, I mean because, as you grow older time kau akan rasa time is like you you will feel the time pressure lah


like you are running out of time ah so, we'll just go ahead go ahead with just took up a media degree ya


and then apa that was, this school ah aku dah aku dah lupa ah nama sekolah dia SDA ke something like that it was it is it closed down already ah, ah something like that ah aku pun dah lupa ah


then apa ni so aku just still err


we are are we


pick up another three years of study


another three years of degree for media abeh aku just look out aku tengok mediacorp offer offer, this is WSQ but it's a diploma ah it's just a one year course okay lah one year aku cakap dengan dia okay lah masih boleh take it lah one year okay lah so I I I I grabbed it ah


at that time was, was so was want to, transition into the media industry [kan] so aku like thought of err maybe err take a gap year first ah before aku joined the media industry


was planning to take my gap year which was this year aku uh already plan to go to new zealand, ah there's this, err


it's called a ah, a working holiday if you heard of it ah basically I basically it's it's a holiday tapi ah


but ah but it's not it's not like those or full-time jobs lah it's like a temporary jobs like maybe like six month contract jobs ataupun part-time jobs are those kind of jobs ah ya ah so


and then the new zealand err working holiday is is a visa lah basically it's a visa called working holiday visa, err the visa is for six months, so err apa ni err, err


so they they use the foreigners as cheap labour so for us for new zealand the is is, uh is that horticulture industry lah, so they they make use of this err apa ni err backpackers foreigners to come to to to err holiday


reservist [dah] approve, ya I mean it's it's it's predictable lah apa aku punya kerja pula aku nak kena bagi one month notice so err apa ah


the more money I have can save up the more money


so aku pun decided to like just err retire one month before my flight, so this early this year when COVID everything happen eh like, aku was seriously like the the suspense eh was like !wow! like only


only god knows what I was feeling ah at that time like, when the news all broke out oh apa COVID, oh singapore at at first


ah ah at first, at first macam the whole the whole world were were singing praises for singapore oh singapore have their best system they have the best ini itu ini semua gedebak gedebuk tapi aku dalam hati macam okay lah aku harap that like


err maybe err new zealand they dia orang like closed one eye on singapore because


the new zealand government they, announce they close the borders


ah abeh like fuck man at that time like !siala! macam damn when when when that news came out eh aku rasa macam like like rasa macam bodoh ah like ah


it's not my fault tapi like I really felt stupid at that time ah macam damn like like aku like aku pun dah bilang err aku punya boss semua like aku didn't like literally at my workplace inform all my colleagues oh I'm going new zealand ni semua like macam macam excitingly like break the news to them ah


at that time pun pernah tanya aku if aku nak reconsider ke tak resignation aku aku cakap tak ah aku still want to go ahead


he respect my decision ah dia cakap okay ah this is your decision I fully respect your decision if you really want to go you just go ahead lah okay lah so when the news broke out that new zealand they close the borders aku like fuck man like !siala! ah


so like, at that time was like really down ah really down abeh ah


for the first two months like that one, ah april ah, yes yes (uh huh)


at that time when when the the the, the news was was at at its height eh like, was at its peak ah aku punya office dalam office aku tu that same floor one of the one of the office lady


got diagnosed positive COVID positive ah and she was seated like ah three, three or four tables behind me which is


err apa a lot of err uncertainty a lot of, err suspense ah like eh macam mana ni eh apa aku pun risau aku pun takut jangan aku positive sudah abeh nanti aku tak dapat pergi like you have


you have a lot of things planned already eh any like for everything to come crashing down eh it's really disappointing ah ah but, ah nasib baik ya lah eventually the lady she recovered from COVID and none of the office staff on my floor were tested positive also lah as in we we didn't we we didn't have to at that time belum ada swab test ah


err at that time we just ah, so anytime we just ah apa do uh uh fourteen day quarantine at home, ya but then err then, after that things happen


okay, uh getting ready to clap


okay ya so macam to start the conversation I aku introduce aku myself first ah, but err my friends my friends call me ash lah pasal nama aku panjang sangat so like ash is the easiest way to remember lah


ya and it's quite universal also, so err but my, uh my keluarga all , call me the by my last name lah which is weird uh Hani, to me it's weird lah pasal nama macam bunyi macam nama perempuan but then I'm like comfortable with it because they've been calling it calling me since young lah


so aku tak tak kisah sangat ya so err aku sekarang like uh twenty three years old, uh, ya ya now aku just, like working part-time like


in like various of different jobs lah so aku macam at first like I'm still like looking for my career path lah so I'm just like hovering around looking for as many jobs as as I could possibly find like one of these uh this is one of jobs that uh aku jumpa through like uh telegram


ya so uh, ya so basically I I'm quite can say quite spoilt lah but I'm actually I think I'm I'm I'm I'm okay lah I don't why people say like single child always spoilt so


ya okay lah you can go ahead and, tell me about yourself


oh ya ya ya park oh ya ya ya ya okay okay ya bill air aku macam pernah dengar tapi macam apa eh , ya okay oh !wow!


project oh okay okay so when kau apply kerja you straight get that role ah, or you you applied for that ah interesting


I mean like dulu pun takde COVID [kan] and uh the kind of problem ya so ya consider quite lucky


I I tapi like, before before the you took the degree what were you like err


oh oh so betul-betul lah tak related lah with your line of work like back then, oh is it oh ya okay okay


sama lah sama sama ya ya,


okay so ya that point of time ya so ah sama lah aku pun macam gini ah like baru ORD aku pun dah lost


oh


okay oh


okay siapa


okay baik ah baik ah it's a nice gesture it's a nice gesture, oh yes


ya ya ya correct correct yes correct correct,


oh okay okay ya,


oh oh


ha ha okay, eh !siala! okay okay


okay okay that's quite big ah


just for the cert ah ,


, oh serious ah


ah ah okay oh ah


dia dah tak tahu apa nak buat ah kat sana


yes yes yes correct


ya baru eh


ah boy eh ya !huh! okay


oh okay okay


office [jer] ah okay, oh okay okay


ah okay okay


oh attachment oh, oh oh that's very small


okay, okay


[sial] attachment sampai ke sini eh


fire ah FFC eh firefighting course eh


oh okay okay, ya local local poly


okay, learn to adapt ah with one another


, !siala!


ya yes, [siol] ah


ah okay okay okay ya ya


ya ya ya okay lah make sense tu pasal muka macam zombie, I think mungkin pasal kau intern they don't really take you seriously or maybe or something like that ah


ya there's there's rude sia what the fuck uncalled for eh


ah okay okay ya it's true lah I mean I can I can actually see it lah


pay the bills then ya


quite fast ah that's that's that's very good ah


ya ya but then you know my age lah no


ya okay ya make sense ya, went along with it kau macam just go with the flow ah


ya correct lah correct lah ya


theatre management, event management and so like that time I intern pun aku ada my own project manager lah so like I always follow


ya okay can


ah ya ya okay okay, ya also good aku pun nak ambil part-time degree dekat SUSS also, now I I'm pursuing it I'm pursuing and go into


ah macam peer pressure gitu [kan]


yes sorry untuk aku macam , maybe after kau dah dapat diploma semua in your area of your study and if macam you happened to like enjoy it or in like interested in it, for me I think is good enough like diploma is really good enough then you can progress from there untuk aku macam degree is just like a way for you


too much on progress further, and maybe like earn more income things like that or you can, ya so or get a higher role gitu macam ah so like for me honestly I don't think a degree is necessary unless you really want to like progress more than err


you can lah


ya I am in the media arts industry ah designing industry


yes correct correct ya


no that's the reason why also got watch them, oh okay okay


ya ya ya ya headed he ya


ya ya ya true


oh mediacorp they provide course, okay interesting interesting


yes yes I'm actually feeling it right now


SDA aku macam pernah dengar pula ya


ya ya ya ya


yes correct correct correct ya understand it in


ya must lead to ready to move on to relax really she her ya


for what what purpose


oh shit, but you will be staying there ah kau staying sana ah


yes yes


okay ya understand, singapore is like having COVID cases like slowly like macam went on to rebuild up uh aku pun time tu macam suspense ah


oh shit


ya ya ya it felt cheated lah, like okay like macam you this this wasn't like you you weren't expecting like this to happen lah, eh I mean it's not your fault lah you just like you just really wanting to


follow your belief ya


[orh] okay ya that was the peak, that was when circuit breaker happen also, ya okay okay oh damn bad timing


oh oh ya ya ya betul takde swab test


okay I'm on, earpiece mode already


it's okay right, okay okay so, (uh huh) ya


ya, so, ya actually right this one is err <mandarin>很很长的故事:hen hen zhang de gu shi</mandarin> ah


ah so, uh, levis <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> actually <mandarin>我的:wo de</mandarin> like stage name ah, it, uh <mandarin>我是玩:wo shi wan</mandarin> bass <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> bass guitar


ya, gigs ah gigs lah mostly <mandarin>是在这种:shi zai zhe zhong</mandarin> club lah you know clarke quay <mandarin>不是有很多:bu shi you hen duo</mandarin> like pump room ah, all these kind of things lor clarke quay play pub forties cover that kind of thing ya that's what I I do lah as my as my as a living ah


so, can can but not very good at it ya, ya I mean after awhile you Sian Liao then <mandarin>你就:ni jiu</mandarin> try different different instruments <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> lah for fun lah ya


but guitar (hmm), uh ya so <mandarin>有考:you kao</mandarin> lah <mandarin>一是兴趣:yi shi xing qu</mandarin> lor


ya ya but then <mandarin>我的:wo de</mandarin> ABRSM <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> grade five, so, but <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> graduate with a diploma lah, it's <mandarin>我的:wo de</mandarin> after after NS <mandarin>我读我的:wo du wo de</mandarin> diploma lor which is lasalle


ya correct correct, ya, (mmhmm)


(hmm) ,


ABRSM ah, (mmhmm) (mmhmm), [orh] okay okay


but is it something that, you like or not like, do you want to continue, , ah okay okay


like, (uh huh), okay, correct correct ya but you are still you are still learning lah <mandarin>还在还在:hai zai hai zai</mandarin> for fun lah that kind of thing


[orh] okay okay, !huh!, okay ah okay ah


[orh] okay okay understand,


(mmhmm),


[orh] arpeggio ah, ya okay, [orh],


[orh] uh, but fingerstyle a bit hard ah, fingerstyle, it's a bit advanced ah,


err I actually do a bit of recording also but mostly like those err, ya correct for other people ah, ya, not very good at it


oh no no no no , ya, err macbook, macbook ya, logic ya correct


yeah, err actually no it's because of school <mandarin>那个我去学校的时候:na ge wo qu xue xiao de shi hou</mandarin> err actually Kena force lah, cause


the school they all using the the computer lab [orh], we all use mac mac one so we are taught to use logic pro, so #bo pian# lah that time I was in school then I had to buy a mac, to learn at home lor so that I can submit my my work, my homework ah ah


so <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> lor, ya, err <mandarin>三年:san nian</mandarin> Liao lah <mandarin>两三年:liang san nian</mandarin> Liao, ,


then, office I was a marketing, marketing executive, for this company called err NDT instruments it's a bit boring lah like


they make those you know testing equipments for you know those people that, make the roadside then you'll test the distance all that, like err you know people that those people that that make the road, or make like industrial equipments right so you test the length of the road how what is it how


how deep is it that kind of thing, no no no no that that, the company does, no no no ya ya, ya so they they make that kind of equipment then I was a marketing team for them lah


ya then I I I hated the job so I quit, then I I, it was very dry for me, I think I was too dynamic lah, I I I prefer like on the go kind of job, so I just quit lor


ya two years, ya, ya, yeah, uh, actually right I studied marketing in Kaplan before NS


uh diploma also so I that's why I took on the job mah, then, after I realize I don't like I don't like this lah I mean I think I like marketing, but I don't like marketing in that company that kind of like, made me hate it hated it lor that's why I left


ya, but I think, if it's marketing in other other firms right like more like a marketing firm [orh], those event kind those advertisement firms right I think I will be okay with it,


okay, ah, (uh huh)


(mmhmm), (mmhmm)


uh, engineering lah, (mmhmm)


okay, that means, err engineering wasn't something that you'd like to do lah it's something just like, (uh huh)


(mmhmm), (mmhmm),


is, , , , (mmhmm), so now


degree you are taking your degree, in at which school, [orh] eh RMIT is which, [orh] SIM ah okay okay, so it's a full time ah


ah okay okay, but it's something that you like ah, ah okay okay, cause it's it,


very very dynamic right like compared to, course, like, ya,


I actually enjoyed studying marketing leh, cause very broad, you can apply to any, ya, because it's so broad right very dynamic mah then then <mandarin>我去做工的时候我觉得:wo qu zuo gong de shi hou wo jue de</mandarin> like eh I very, very close in the box then I kind of don't like it lor


ya, then, then


but, considered like like a freelance freelancer like that lah <mandarin>可以:ke yi</mandarin> lah ya, but <mandarin>现在:xian zai</mandarin> COVID


ya, ya, ya lor <mandarin>可以:ke yi</mandarin> lah <mandarin>可以是可以的看你要不要而已:ke yi shi ke yi de kan ni yao bu yao er yi</mandarin> lah, err, #bukit gombak#, ya


oh !wah! okay lah <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> east leh , north east ya north east, , Punggol park ah


(mmhmm), , , oh okay


it's a it's industrial ah, oh okay okay that's interesting, is it I think I living in a cave ah


ya maybe ah, which camp


okay, oh, (mmhmm), book out ah, everyday


[orh] walk back, (ugh) !wah! shag ah , okay okay


(mmhmm), [orh] [orh] like interesting eh, that means


but you're on, , so you are really on the like let's say, so, you are


you are really in the in, that you are the guy those guys that go out and and really do the work one lah


[orh] okay, uh, [orh]


, eh got any interesting story ah


(mmhmm), ah okay,


size of a shopping mall ah, that means must be very big ah, !wah! so you you you actually been to this kind of, situation before in


(mmhmm), , I think I think I know what you talking about it's in the news right, ah okay okay


ya I


all the way ah, !wah!


(mmhmm), !wah!


(mmhmm), one minute ah, that means


!wah!, that means the food ah must faster close back then Zhao already ah put back on the table, !wah!


okay okay, !wah! one minute leh , that means including wearing the the suit, the


wait every saturday nine AM ah,


like, like, oh, , oh


ya actually this one I first time hear sia like I mean if it's if it's more like, out in the open right I think more people would really go eh cause it's,


(mmhmm), within seven minutes, that means


that means in singapore right every fire station will be approximately seven minutes away from, , the any any, [orh] okay okay


so, ya I opposite the ITE got some ITE there, ah, [orh] okay okay


, oh okay, ah, , [orh] that means I stay very near there


I stay at the driving centre, you know you, outside your fire station you turn turn left, BBDC right, then opposite the BBDC got err got some HDB there lah I stay around there only


ya, the other side #teck whye# <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> right side <mandarin>我的是:wo de shi</mandarin> left side, eh


no no the, #bukit gombak# MRT, so fire station <mandarin>出来:chu lai</mandarin> [orh], right side <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> #teck whye# #bukit panjang# <mandarin>那些东西:nei xie dong xi</mandarin> right


ya <mandarin>我的是:wo de shi</mandarin> turn left <mandarin>这样而已:zhe yang er yi</mandarin> lor left <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> BBDC Liao lah, ya, , so now, I don't know leh


I I got friend also in SCDF, some of them ah, not sign on lah like you like that lor NS, ya, so, fireman fireman, I think one of them was err <mandarin>在:zai</mandarin> Jurong island ah


that means ya, ya <mandarin>很很:hen hen</mandarin> Sian ah, oh okay okay, next


(mmhmm) (mmhmm), [orh] so just started lah, ah


then what make you, choose like marketing, ya okay, okay okay


ya, I actually I would recommend marketing also and I think I kind of like you like that lah <mandarin>差不多一样:cha bu duo yi yang</mandarin> lah, business business ish we are the finance, ya then okay lah marketing, ya


(mmhmm), , , it's a family car ah, oh rent a car [orh] okay okay


uh, eh solid leh


what vo ah, for working ten days a month


eh that's worth it leh, (mmhmm)


(mmhmm)


!wah!, !wah!, actually it's a good plan eh, very, ai #bo pian#, no one predicted lah


is it, so doing the same thing


, [orh] okay okay that means, more like a proper job already lah


(ugh) okay okay, that means you enjoy your NS life lah, ah oh even better ah


eh actually a lot of my SCDF friends [orh] they say they like they actually enjoyed their NS eh, , ya ya, bunch of them, ya


ya, !wah!, ya it's good pay it's good pay, and it's just,


very, ,


ah okay okay, ya, !wah! actually


ya, , (mmhmm),


(mmhmm), ah, but can you err <mandarin>可以选的:ke yi xuan de</mandarin> mah <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> special


[orh] okay okay understand, !wah! quite cool quite cool, , don't do well as in I mean you sure complete the course mah


eh actually doesn't really matter leh, I feel lah


what what really matter is is is whether you got any like Lobang to get into it or not like, the word of mouth is very important leh I feel, ya, ya so if you if you like got people working already in the industry or what [orh] then just talk to them network lor network yourself get more get to know more people ah


ya cause last time right when I was I was applying for a job hor, a lot of things is like, when I go for the interview hor they looked at my diploma they never look at my other things one they never look at the grades all that, ya


they see your cert only you know got the, diploma in blah blah blah blah then what school the cert, ya usually they see the cert only, I think only one company check my GPA but like, not really a big factor the GPA thing


, ya,


ya, but that's coming from my perspective ah my experience ah I don't know about other people, ya cause people different people got different experience mah ya


cause a lot of time they grade you by like, whether you can, hold yourself in the interview, ya they just shoot you based on that lah, like <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> #kan chiong# #kan chiong# <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> maybe #buey zai# ah, then happily <mandarin>不要考虑不要:bu yao kao lv bu yao</mandarin> hire <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> Liao ya


something like that lah, ya, (mmhmm), but, <mandarin>因为我的:yin wei wo de</mandarin> life <mandarin>是蛮:shi man</mandarin>


<mandarin>因为我是:yin wei wo shi</mandarin> freelance freelance musician what so <mandarin>我没有一个:wo mei you yi ge</mandarin> stable job, so, like unlike <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> that that, cause one day I might be in singapore one day I might not be singapore then one one month I might get a lot of pay then one month I might get no pay


that kind of thing, ya ya ya so <mandarin>有时会:you shi hui</mandarin> like


err corporate corporate events right, sometimes they host overseas <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> mah, like I that kind of thing lah so, uh when, they they got singaporeans who go there lor go there and do the it's a singaporean event mah although it's hosted overseas


so so the event company will get the band to go there to play like for the event, ya, then <mandarin>有时是:you shi shi</mandarin> artist ah <mandarin>我不是:wo bu shi</mandarin> artist ah artist that means <mandarin>你写自己的歌唱你自己的:ni xie zi ji de ge chang ni zi ji de</mandarin> original <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> lor, like singaporean we got like gentle bones sam willows all this kind of thing right


people like us lor like bass player <mandarin>他的:ta de</mandarin> band to like, so so


ya, err as in like


superstar <mandarin>这种的:zhe zhong de</mandarin> ah, ya actually a lot lah <mandarin>因为:yin wei</mandarin> ya, top ah


like, I like err, recently I've been listening to a lot of err jay Z lor, you know jay Z right, ah jay Z jay Z amazing, so I will listen to a lot of jay Z lah listen to how he do live


then you can apply that locally ah, ya, like john mayer john mayer's ah like john mayer's band, solid, ya <mandarin>很:hen</mandarin> solid <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> band so <mandarin>我会看这种:wo hui kan zhe zhong</mandarin> act lor ya


, ya, linkin park yes, mike shinoda, ya my childhood, eh I tell you ah I think I same as you you know my hybrid theory is my first album that I bought lor


my mother buy for me leh, then hor because of that right I, I got I listen to it everyday eh, then because of that I play music sia, then,


then, cause linkin park is like rap hip hop rap plus rock metal like that right, so until today [orh] I'm still considered like uh like I listen to a lot of pop rock, and then metal and hip hop that kind of thing like that kind of mix


ah so I think that was the one that influence me lor as a child, ya, on no lah, no lah, but I I know the the the linkin park the first album like I think if you tell me now I I know the songs lah


uh, (mmhmm)


uh, ya, linkin park ah, the, I think linkin park change a lot of things <mandarin>因为:yin wei</mandarin> like


rapper then <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> [orh] all the way hip hop rap, then on the other spectrum that in america there is like the


so linkin park was the first, the first band to like kind of, put two element and put together and make it like sound nice lah, cause, ya so like from that point onwards right everybody like eh actually you all these two different elements can exist together


ya then a lot of us they we all listen lor ya, so linkin, !wah!, favourite linkin park song ah, I think, I think you know the numb album [orh], that that album right


I think got other songs besides numb that I, like better but I would say numb because I only can remember the title got paper cut, paper cut lah, err, !wah! one step closer


do you do you remember all the titles I don't remember the title but I I know the songs lah ,


live at what, okay, !wah! I never heard that one, I got live in texas , ya


, the new late the not in that album right, the, leave out all the rest is not in hybrid theory I think it's, I


ya I know the song ya I know the song ya ya, okay okay, , [orh] that one is the, is the, the midnight's album one that one


I think, uh, ya ya, the, ya, I, I was just thinking I talking to my friend the other day leh we we were talking like eh last time we liked linkin park all that right we !wah! really fan of linkin park right


then, now we think about it hor the lyrics actually very meaningful leh, that's why as a kid I don't know how, as a kid I don't know how emotional it was eh


ya then like !wah! actually very deep leh the meaning the the lyrics like the chester, ya, ya like I never thought that it it meant so much after he suicide leh then like !wah! actually the lyrics <mandarin>很多:hen duo</mandarin> emotion <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> !wah! freak <mandarin>真的真的:zhen de zhen de</mandarin>


ya, linkin park man, as in <mandarin>老:lao</mandarin> Liao lah I think , ya I think also like


, I think


, right


so recently right, ya, recently during <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> COVID virus


uh so live stream right <mandarin>你可以讲:ni ke yi jiang</mandarin> eh can you, are you able to like, err write a song <mandarin>你可以跟他讲话他会他会:ni ke yi gen ta jiang hua ta hui ta hui</mandarin> reply <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> then maybe can you write a a song in like a hip hop song, or like a old linkin park style type of song


on on on err YouTube live ya so with that, with <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> <mandarin>那些:nei xie</mandarin> material hor <mandarin>他他:ta ta</mandarin> recently <mandarin>出一个一个:chu yi ge yi ge</mandarin> album, like <mandarin>他的他的:ta de ta de</mandarin> COVID virus <mandarin>他的没有东西做:ta de mei you dong xi zuo</mandarin> mah so <mandarin>在家里写歌在出一个:zai jia li xie ge zai chu yi ge</mandarin> album <mandarin>跟跟:gen gen</mandarin> linkin park <mandarin>不一样的蛮:bu yi yang de man</mandarin> like new school ah <mandarin>很很多:hen hen duo</mandarin> EDM electro <mandarin>的的的东西:de de de dong xi</mandarin> ah ya


ya I think <mandarin>他:ta</mandarin> experimenting lah but <mandarin>没有:mei you</mandarin> lyrics <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> lah just experiment with <mandarin>那个那些歌那些:na ge nei xie ge nei xie</mandarin> sounds and and and, chords <mandarin>那些:nei xie</mandarin> lah ya, I think <mandarin>他他们不用做工:ta ta men bu yong zuo gong</mandarin> Liao leh


maybe I don't know if it's five cents or not lah like maybe one cent but <mandarin>蛮少的:man shao de</mandarin> lah, tour <mandarin>几个地方赚那么多钱:ji ge di fang zhuan na me duo qian</mandarin> Liao


locally <mandarin>他们出唱片:ta men chu chang pian</mandarin> right, just Spotify it, ya, ya, ya, but for, for like linkin park <mandarin>这样的不一样:zhe yang de bu yi yang</mandarin> lah <mandarin>他们的他们的他们是:ta men de ta men de ta men shi</mandarin> like


millions and millions of people listening right then <mandarin>他的钱是真的是:ta de qian shi zhen de shi</mandarin> thousand <mandarin>一年是:yi nian shi</mandarin> thousands <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> mah, ya lah so <mandarin>不一样:bu yi yang</mandarin> lah <mandarin>他们的:ta men de</mandarin> level


ya, , NOC <mandarin>有很多钱的:you hen duo qian de</mandarin> NOC <mandarin>蛮蛮有钱的:man man you qian de</mandarin>


ya, uh YouTube YouTube <mandarin>很多钱因为:hen duo qian yin wei</mandarin> YouTube <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> based on advertisement, so, ya you know <mandarin>下面不是有:xia mian bu shi you</mandarin> sell <mandarin>一个:yi ge</mandarin> banner lor <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> advertisement, , ya so everytime


ah okay okay, cooking with ryan ah okay okay


okay okay okay <mandarin>我等一下我去:wo deng yi xia wo qu</mandarin> check after <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> , (mmhmm),


, right right, so <mandarin>你有:ni you</mandarin> recording, equipments ah


[orh] okay okay okay but it's a good start lah, right, it's a good start lah, ya ya


uh, okay okay, okay okay, but it's a good start lah I mean like we all start somewhere what as long as you are doing something


but it's better than not doing anything mah, ya, no actually I'm not a really a foodie ya, ah okay okay


food king is on NOC ah ah, ,


ah, ya, , ah okay okay !wah! we are we a bit different ah I everyday eat chicken rice one


ya, I don't know man because I'm not a foodie mah, Swee <mandarin>什么东西可以吃就买:shen me dong xi ke yi chi jiu mai</mandarin> lor as long as <mandarin>不要太夸张:bu yao tai kua zhang</mandarin> lah maybe <mandarin>真的是很难吃:zhen de shi hen nan chi</mandarin> lah then okay maybe not not today lah you know


ya ya I really eat to survive one , unless no unless Tinder date ah or like go out with girlfriend right then


eh actually very good topic leh my first Tinder date right when I went to eat at err, where is it ah, , what the, suntec city I think that, I think is it suntec city down on the basement got a lot of food one, one of the japanese restaurants


ya cause she tell me she like sushi all that then we okay ah let's go try out that restaurant lor, ya, that was my first Tinder date , err ya because right we never, I had to work the the


we went out in the evening eh in the day at night I have to work and then she have to work, so that that was the first date lah so we after that we Chao, ya, then, no the funny thing is right, uh the first Tinder date hor became my girlfriend leh, that at that point in time lah not now lah but ex ex girlfriend lah a few ex exes already lah ya


but that was my first first Tinder date, then, ya lah but after along the way we broke up lah, then after that got a few Tinder dates then that one like cannot <mandarin>搞:gao</mandarin> one lah a bit quite dumb that kind of thing , ya, ya


the the first one lor that that one lor that was fun, that one cause, after that right we got along very well then talk talk talk talk then second date we went to the zoo, then eventually be she became my my girlfriend lah for at that point in time lah ex girlfriend lah


ya, ya quite fun, I cause I thought right Tinder like !aiya! just try for fun lah, then end up ah like, err ya ya, I think


the new zouk I never go before, cause the, the <mandarin>新的:xin de</mandarin> zouk <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> zouka ah, rebel <mandarin>这个是:zhe ge shi</mandarin> mah


but <mandarin>以前以前的那个以前的以前:yi qian yi qian de na ge yi qian de yi qian</mandarin> zouka <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> mah, K, I think so eh <mandarin>因为因为:yin wei yin wei</mandarin> after <mandarin>它:ta</mandarin> move to <mandarin>那个新的:na ge xin de</mandarin> zouk hor <mandarin>我做工:wo zuo gong</mandarin> Liao mah <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> start to work as as a musician Liao


ya, ya but then some more, but


ya lor, ya lor ya lor, ya, but <mandarin>现在我:xian zai wo</mandarin> I think <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> enjoy like <mandarin>去:qu</mandarin> bar lah like <mandarin>跟朋友聊天这样:gen peng you liao tian zhe yang</mandarin> like


just chill


err, ya, uh


more on that kind of thing lah ya


then <mandarin>她她喜欢上我:ta ta xi huan shang wo</mandarin> leh, then <mandarin>跟她讲话讲话:gen ta jiang hua jiang hua</mandarin> ah then, after that #pang gang liao# <mandarin>我回家:wo hui jia</mandarin> Liao mah then <mandarin>她:ta</mandarin> stalk <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> sia, I think previous


then <mandarin>我要睡觉的时候:wo yao shui jiao de shi hou</mandarin> hor, then <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> apartment <mandarin>有那个:you na ge</mandarin> apartment <mandarin>有别人住的:you bie ren zhu de</mandarin> like


eh <mandarin>这样不对:zhe yang bu dui</mandarin> lah <mandarin>不可以这样:bu ke yi zhe yang</mandarin> stalk <mandarin>人家人家有人家在这边住的:ren jia ren jia you ren jia zai zhe bian zhu de</mandarin> leh <mandarin>不会早上:bu hui zao shang</mandarin> Liao leh at least, by the time <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> end <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> work


so <mandarin>跟她讲不可以这样做:gen ta jiang bu ke yi zhe yang zuo</mandarin> leh then <mandarin>她她一一点:ta ta yi yi dian</mandarin> high Liao lah so <mandarin>一直一直:yi zhi yi zhi</mandarin> pester <mandarin>我在外面:wo zai wai mian</mandarin> then <mandarin>我打给警察:wo da gei jing cha</mandarin> lor, #bo bian# lah, ya, quite interesting ah, sounds interesting lah but not lah but not not very interesting lah


ya, (mmhmm)


!huh! , oh no, ya


err character, ya, that's why <mandarin>我很少去:wo hen shao qu</mandarin> #siam diu# <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> like, ya


ya, ya, ya ya, ya,


ya, ya, ya, ya annoying hor , ya


ya lor, more like hang out with your friend lah, ya ya same ah same lor like <mandarin>如果是朋友就:ru guo shi peng you jiu</mandarin> okay lah like <mandarin>陪陪朋友跟朋友喝酒这样:pei pei peng you gen peng you he jiu zhe yang</mandarin> okay, ya but my own <mandarin>我不会:wo bu hui</mandarin> lah,


ya lor ya lor, ya correct correct correct correct


right right, ya, ya ya lah , ya , ya but normally <mandarin>那些女孩子:nei xie nv hai zi</mandarin> hor <mandarin>会讲英文的她不会来这边做工的:hui jiang ying wen de ta bu hui lai zhe bian zuo gong de</mandarin> mah <mandarin>她们会:ta men hui</mandarin> work in a proper like MNC like a proper company maybe <mandarin>她们已经会英文:ta men yi jing hui ying wen</mandarin> Liao mah


correct, they will work, ya ya ya correct correct, ya, #siam diu# pay


ya ya ya , ya ya ya, ya correct correct correct <mandarin>如果是那些真的是:ru guo shi nei xie zhen de shi</mandarin> gold digger <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> , ya, ya ya


ya, that kind of thing, ya, I see before like, like, maybe like


then <mandarin>他们就一直:ta men jiu yi zhi</mandarin> like versus ah <mandarin>看谁:kan shei</mandarin> ego mah, then <mandarin>吊到:diao dao</mandarin> fifty thousand then <mandarin>那个女孩子:na ge nv hai zi</mandarin> like happy lah fifty thousand for no reason, ya ya


so like , interesting lah, ya, I want first first country ah


first country I will go, ya


I would, actually I don't know sia I got no favourite, but err, I would, I will want to go to like europe ah, or, america america also, I'm a musician lah so like a lot of like you know like like like what you say just now lor like a lot of the


like go LA lah <mandarin>因为他们很多是:yin wei ta men hen duo shi</mandarin> LA hollywood <mandarin>想:xiang</mandarin> meh <mandarin>去看看:qu kan kan</mandarin> lor this or bad, where influence come from, ya


ya , what about you


(mmhmm), ya


(mmhmm), ,


power ah, ya ya, ya, correct correct, but taiwan


ah okay, ,


ya, no because, , singapore very hot lah , singapore very hot right


in perth ah, ya, I go to perth before when I was, a kid lah so I cannot really remember, ya,


as, you you went there with your family also ah, if, [orh] okay okay, then, [orh] nice nice, [orh] okay okay, ya actually I wanted to go perth last year, cause I actually I got


I cause I got err my cousin was my cousin move to perth, to, to study then the boyfriend, her boyfriend like those Angmoh one ah then go go there study lor so I think just staying there already ah not coming back already ah


ya, then wanted to go I wanted to go find find her, then right I got a lot of gig at that point of time then I'm like okay lah this year cannot lah , ya, actually a lot of a lot of singaporean in perth leh


, , (mmhmm), uh a bit <mandarin>臭:chou</mandarin> ah


the one meal is like ten dollar right, !wah! ,


oh ya, !wah! okay okay, oh okay okay


, , ya


ya ya, but because of higher cost of living also lah #bo pian# , ya, her, err barista ah


哦, (mmhmm)


actually <mandarin>我懂:wo dong</mandarin> as in <mandarin>因为我也是我也是做过:yin wei wo ye shi wo ye shi zuo guo</mandarin> err cafe not Starbucks lah but <mandarin>那种:na zhong</mandarin> <mandarin>那种:na zhong</mandarin> hipster cafe, it was called err Bees & Cream Beans & Cream


ya, but <mandarin>不像:bu xiang</mandarin> Starbucks <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> lah <mandarin>差不多:cha bu duo</mandarin> also like that lor barista but you need to scoop ice cream need to do cashier everything lah ya, ya


the the the <mandarin>店来的:dian lai de</mandarin> so okay, ya, [orh] waterway point okay okay


ya, ya


so when my first part time job <mandarin>是做那个:shi zuo na ge</mandarin> ah, I think, that was when I was, in ITE I think


ya, then <mandarin>我做过:wo zuo guo</mandarin> like, err <mandarin>有:you</mandarin> museum then, outside <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> museum <mandarin>那那些:na nei xie</mandarin> artifact hor


not the main not the real, Lepak ah but Sian lah ya


ya, that that one I was, err <mandarin>还有蛮蛮还有蛮多东西:hai you man man hai you man duo dong xi</mandarin> lah err, err


uh I like <mandarin>坐下 时 又 不 喜欢 那个</mandarin> memorise 的 specs 这家 try to make it 那些 人, ya so 我 做 时 有个 girl, 我 不是 很 turkey de la 了 我 不是 contacted the ya, are you are you that kind of person


ah okay, gadgets are like, oh okay okay, 嗯


it actually, oh okay okay actually I was uh apple I wasn't and prevent because, ASAP 不是 可以 讲 那个 我 system of forced me to bio apple #bo pian# right, logic pro X


then after that when I start to convert to apple and then I felt that apple, the, err, because of the the I think is it called club ah


like where where one device can they one device you can seem to every device right, so you, the plan the your contacts eighteen 全部 在 里面 了 喔, perfect manner, yeah, enjoy your but 还是 I I mean some people like it lah 因为 是 你 可以 install customize 你 的 different apps you know that right


but then 这个 事 你 不用 管 的 你 呢, the 有 那个 image 是 了 log into your needed the apple id 哦, they called you all you all have lender 用 他 的 billed as long as you can download, put customize ah basically, is it


not really from scratch but like it's two customizable, so you have, if you don't you have that kind of service right, it it it you still have to the download these are there then you seen here signal, 啊, yeah but those people that like look will eat pineapple 一半 enjoyed 好像 很 麻烦 呢 如果 你 全部 apple 就 很 方 便


yeah, yeah, yeah, okay


yeah, yeah yeah


嗯, and uh air drop ah !wah! I love air drop, hedgehog power, yeah


what, ya, okay I think 我们 hit, one hour, six minutes leh, can you stop already, okay okay, okay lah


okay okay shall we pause pause 咯, a thick Katong [leh], K [lah] okay I'll take a try [lah], okay


okay I'm on, ear, okay I'm on earpiece mode also I think just now capture a bit of your voice on loud speaker but nevermind we just start from now lah


so ya I think it's okay, okay so your name is levis right, uh but you you give yourself the name or I mean cause you mention your name on your IC is #ang huan le# right


so you came out with yourself lah for the levis, ah, [orh] musician lah


[orh] <mandarin>所以你是唱歌的:suo yi ni shi chang ge de</mandarin> lah or what, [orh] bass guitar interesting so <mandarin>你几岁开始学:ni ji sui kai shi xue</mandarin> bass guitar


[orh] then <mandarin>你是在:ni shi zai</mandarin> cafe play ah or gig gigs ah


[orh] interesting interesting so you can play guitar, [orh] <mandarin>我发现:wo fa xian</mandarin> like those people who can play bass usually can play guitar also lah


, so, err you took formal lessons, [orh] so <mandarin>你有考那个:ni you kao na ge</mandarin> exam ah


ABRSM ah, [orh], [orh]


diploma in music ah, [orh], I also got learn music actually I play I learned I learned the piano when I was young err five years old <mandarin>我学:wo xue</mandarin> piano then, !aiya! <mandarin>我妈妈:wo ma ma</mandarin> mah <mandarin>她:ta</mandarin> force <mandarin>我去学这种:wo qu xue zhe zhong</mandarin> piano cause she like she like those classical music and then


she, she like four ellis you I'm I'm sure you know right four ellis the song so she was like, eh boy ah I I want you to know to play four ellis ah so you go and learn, piano then [orh] okay lor learn lah learn lah then I learn until grade five


then, ya ABRSM I I was stuck at grade five lah I fail twice then I didn't continue already, ya then also I move house so my piano was left at my old house


ya, then, I I I enjoy playing the piano but I don't like, playing the classical music you know


ya so like I like to I like to learn songs like all the latest maroon five pop song I play on the piano ah that's what attracts the girls you know not the classical music ya


err <mandarin>现在没有:xian zai mei you</mandarin> Liao lah because my piano at my old house so <mandarin>现在我新家没有:xian zai wo xin jia mei you</mandarin> piano then, uh, ya lor, but my new house <mandarin>很小:hen xiao</mandarin> leh <mandarin>没有方没有地方放:mei you fang mei you di fang fang</mandarin> mah but <mandarin>如果说:ru guo shuo</mandarin> !walao! very cram ah


ya lor, then I I play I play guitar also but err that one I didn't even I didn't take exams lah but err I I learned the basics lor I can play chords only ah like, the rest !wah! I cannot lah my finger a bit too stiff for guitar leh


then cause that time I learn I I learn from cristofori music school, then they I I didn't want to learn the, the proper way you know like all the scales ah chords ah or what


err one of the shit I forgot what is it called err is it apiago or something like that, ah ya ya ya that one, ya cause !wah! I I had enough of that from the piano ah so I don't want to bring this over to the guitar but err ya it's it was significantly more difficult for me lah on the guitar


cause like especially the bar chords you know like my finger gonna stretch until like !wah! cannot lah, but guitar is cool lah I I would I mean if I had the time I would go and, err learn more lah I hope I can play fingerstyle lah cause !wah! that's damn cool lah seriously


ya I grew up watching #sungha jung# you know I'm sure you know right #sungha jung# ya, ya lor, ya it's very difficult, it's like chords and, ya very advanced ah I feel


ya lor, so err you mentioned you are doing audio right so like, what kind of audio you doing, so that means basically you do


err music recording lah, ah okay okay, [orh] I thought it's like those I thought it's like those film production then you hold the mic, that kind, [orh] so when you record all this audio you use macbook or


I mean like when you edit the audios, logic X ah, ah I see, so I guess you are Apple fan or is it is it just a or like people who do audio they use macbook


[orh], by who, , [orh]


, [orh], so but <mandarin>你已经:ni yi jing</mandarin> graduate <mandarin>多久:duo jiu</mandarin> Liao


interesting interesting so, then before before <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> graduate NS ah, as in before <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> graduate from school <mandarin>你当兵:ni dang bing</mandarin> lah


[orh] <mandarin>做什么工:zuo shen me gong</mandarin> leh, [orh] for which company


roadside, (uh huh), (mmhmm), [orh] so you use sound to measure the distance ah


oh so it's not it's not audio related lah, okay okay understand, [orh], why why you hate the job


so you you stay for two years ah, !wah! to stay two years in a job you hate that's something man , [orh] but you had any relevant experience in marketing


marketing in Kaplan ah, [orh], [orh]


[orh] okay, [orh] okay <mandarin>明白明白:ming bai ming bai</mandarin> so actually <mandarin>我现在读:wo xian zai du</mandarin> marketing also for my degree ah


but, study engineering, so it's, quite a big switch ah cause, err in the first place <mandarin>我去:wo qu</mandarin> engineering <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> because my my O level result was bad lah I got like


twenty seven marks eh twenty seven points, so I was only offered, nursing and, actually in the in the in the application form I was only offered nursing, but !walao! cause <mandarin>不要做:bu yao zuo</mandarin> nursing lah Siao ah <mandarin>做:zuo</mandarin> nursing don't have the patience man


then err I went I went to RP to appeal out so, they accepted me lor Heng lah, engineering, ya but my maths sucks man I I got a D seven leh that's why I I didn't have much choice for my


err poly application, ya, so, err I actually like D&T, I I did quite well for D&T that but err


because my all my D&T teachers were they had degree in engineering, so I thought, I thought D&T like very similar to, engineering so I thought, I strike I thought I strike the jackpot lah when I got into engineering but


all the formula which I hated lah I hated remembering formulas lah, I didn't then in the end I didn't do so well also I got one point six leh my GPA !wah! Piang eh


ya lor so, uh degree lor, RMIT, uh under SIM ah err royal Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology


uh, ya lor full time ah, still early to say I just started the semester in july, ya but it's quite busy lah a lot of assignments group works ya


ya ya <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor I , more broad topics lah a lot of uh more interesting lah I would say, ya


then <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> job make you hate it ,


!huh! <mandarin>真的:zhen de</mandarin> ah, !wah! solid leh, [orh] <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> hor <mandarin>现在:xian zai</mandarin> COVID !wah!


[orh] shag, eh by the way <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> by the way <mandarin>你住哪里:ni zhu na li</mandarin> ah just curious, !wah! <mandarin>哪里来的:na li lai de</mandarin> sia west ah


Punggol lor, ya, north east lah, all the way at the end of the north east !hannor!, but <mandarin>现在:xian zai</mandarin> Punggol


ah then <mandarin>现在:xian zai</mandarin> Punggol <mandarin>蛮好的:man hao de</mandarin> lah a a lot of new development you know they coming up with a lot of new buildings, got new HDB then one more new MRT coming up also Punggol coast MRT, ya then they, ya they also building the, what you call that


it's like, ya industrial ah it's it's something like the silicon valley of singapore lah I I guess, ya all the all the tech companies will be there <mandarin>没有听过:mei you ting guo</mandarin> meh it's quite big news leh


ya uh maybe maybe you are westie you know, ya maybe maybe, [orh] ya but speaking of west last time uh when I did NS err my camp was all the way in the west ah


err I was I was from SCDF, ya so my camp was at NSTI boon lay there, err #jalan bahar#, ya so it was quite a tortuous travel lah from Punggol all the way to, #boon lay#, book in and book out ah


no lah not everyday lah, err, stay in lor I stay in ah, but not not my whole not my whole NS life ah was for training and, err recruit life only, ya so six months ah eh


wait actually after that I still I still I still go back but the thing is err, after after I finish my fire cause I was a firefighter mah so I I finished my firefighting training then I post out, to the same camp, under special rescue unit


so, the firefighter schedule is twenty four hours work and forty eight hours off, so I only need to go camp once every two days, ya, ya ya ya, it's not a lot of firefighters


err especially chinese lah not to be racist but, I think it is not common for chinese to be firefighter lah, I I think they have some selection criteria or what but I I still can't figure out the selection criteria now


ya lor, ah ah <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> nine nine five, ah <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> ah <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> ah <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> ah we we receive so that means


then nine nine five will reach the op centre, then op centre will dispatch, so they will say like err, station four one example lah, the need the station code


follow by the location, and then the, case so can be can be many things can be rescue can be, rescue suicide can be locked door, ya things like that so and actually there's every day there's fire it's more there's more fire than anyone could imagine just that


it's not reported only, ya so only all those huge fires are reported or maybe HDB flat, fires are reported so the rest they don't really report one ah so a lot of people a lot of people have the impression that [orh] singapore very safe no fire but it's not true lah I I guess


ya, interesting story not really but, , because okay I'm in the special rescue unit so I'm kind of different from the rest


special rescue unit is something like, something like commandos I would say it's like the more elite unit lah, so we they only dispatch us if we have huge fire, say the size of a shopping mall then they will call us to go


if not the normal fire station will handle, ya, ya very very big ah, ya the I don't know if you know about this the


oh my gosh that place ah, Jalan is it Jalan, err there's this very huge err oil, gas gas LPG fire, at oh my god I can't remember the location now it's in the west one