when I was there for a certain period of time I was actually quite happy with the job to be honest, I was actually honestly very satisfied with it like there's nothing like bad about the job or anything but, I think the worst part was


, I think eventually the, he handled like it was just it was eventually handed to different management, right cause the boss of the owner of the company was just was busy with other projects he has many many different projects ah


and then, then I was then the new management was like I mean I I to be honest I just didn't like the new management lah, it's like with them is like, ya man it's like, yeah


so I mean on this yeah, yeah, ya then yeah the new management is not as like my prev- like my first boss then was like he's very I think he's very like he very blunt like the guy is just very blunt he's all about like


making money but then it's like it's very cool lah he can understand perspective and if you got idea you can just suggest that kind quite <mandarin>开开放:kai kai fang</mandarin> then the new management come in and he's like, cause he he brought in this guy right, and it was a basically relative to this the the the company that they work with


it's just relative lah then they bring in, then he was supposed to be managing all of us and then it's like okay I mean yeah the guy was nice and then all but it's like, , ya just wasn't very happy under the so called direction


then is like ya lah it's like it's like we were there longer then suddenly you they bring in this guy that been the shorter it's like, you know then they don't know how we do things and then they want to instill all these new things then it's like eh


they are good I could just be because I was, an employee and that's just a normal employee thing lah and whatever lor, then after that I just ya lah I just left lah


(mmhmm), okay, ya ya ya


hello, hello, yeah yeah I can hear you


nice to meet you yeah, uh I I haven't haven't haven't <mandarin>吃:chi</mandarin> lah <mandarin>等下:deng xia</mandarin> lah maybe later I'll go to maybe the the the food court and probably eat <mandarin>菜饭:cai fan</mandarin> or something, yeah


ah <mandarin>真的吗:zhen de ma</mandarin> where is the the place ah is in in marina square is it, [orh] oh


[orh], (hmm), I see I see


[orh], I see like like for me hor <mandarin>我很喜欢吃炸鸡:wo hen xi huan chi zha ji</mandarin> lah by then the thing is I so far I have not really found any place that I think is <mandarin>好吃:hao chi</mandarin> lah to be honest


err so far like I I I try a few places uh like uh what what what is that called <mandarin>那个地方:na ge di fang</mandarin> I forget what's that place called its there are a few like


, err <mandarin>新的那个:xin de na ge</mandarin> joint and, like I really cannot remember <mandarin>我记不了那个地方叫什么:wo ji bu liao na ge di fang jiao shen me</mandarin>


okay, , yeah, (mmhmm)


(mmhmm),


(mmhmm), err I I think <mandarin>那个那个:na ge na ge</mandarin> four fingers right is a uh to be honest right <mandarin>我我我在我在:wo wo wo zai wo zai</mandarin> korea right I never see before lah to be honest so I think its a I think its a american joint or something


[orh] okay, okay


okay, okay, , ah, so so


, , ah oh like like for me I uh I <mandarin>因为因为我:yin wei yin wei wo</mandarin> uh like maybe <mandarin>一点:yi dian</mandarin> like background about me so I actually I studied I graduated like from <mandarin>大学:da xue</mandarin> in in in korea and then I worked there for like <mandarin>很久:hen jiu</mandarin> so <mandarin>我有大概:wo you da gai</mandarin> about ten years


oh <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> uh I I'm at like the the uh uh the korea there then I came back lor because of COVID, ya so so the thing is uh when I came back right <mandarin>我吃到的:wo chi dao de</mandarin> all the <mandarin>炸鸡:zha ji</mandarin> right it's like like not not many of them they are like how to say they just brand themselves as a korean <mandarin>炸鸡:zha ji</mandarin> but really yeah when I yeah I like sometimes when I crave like I quite <mandarin>很很:hen hen</mandarin> disappointed lah to be honest yeah so but like lately there are a few


how to say like like native right <mandarin>他们自己开:ta men zi ji kai</mandarin> their own store like but you have to go and really <mandarin>去找:qu zhao</mandarin> like in those uh Kopitiam or something there are and yeah yeah so even like uh in the area whereby I <mandarin>租的:zu de</mandarin> lah I I I stay in the err around like like the Kovan Hougang area


there yeah yeah so I stay around <mandarin>那个地方:na ge di fang</mandarin> lah so <mandarin>那边:na bian</mandarin> like there's this uncle whereby he sells quite legit like korean fried chicken lor and I think is yeah I think I think it's quite quite <mandarin>好吃:hao chi</mandarin> lah then


but the thing about him right it's like there is no uh not much of <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> marketing <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> thinglah <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> he's like literally like the normal Kopitiam stall whereby you need to go there and then like ah this place got this this this store


yeah, , ah ya lah ya lah correct lah correct lah yeah but anyway that there are out there <mandarin>但是要去找了:dan shi yao qu zhao le</mandarin> lor yeah so


yeah yeah, , okay I see I see, eh I I'm just curious <mandarin>你你是做什么的:ni ni shi zuo shen me de</mandarin> ah what what what do you do


(uh huh), [orh]


<mandarin>很:hen</mandarin> straightforward ah ,


, , yeah


, , oh, !wah! <mandarin>你应该应该也很很难了因为:ni ying gai ying gai ye hen hen nan le yin wei</mandarin> like because now the the whole thing about shipping and all that and <mandarin>那个时间:na ge shi jian</mandarin> and the cost and all that definitely is different then


, oh really, ah, , now is


<mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor, , ,


<mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor like , ya but, , uh, , uh


yeah, [orh] for me for me uh I am a a nutritionist or rather dietitian ah so <mandarin>我现在:wo xian zai</mandarin> is like err because I get like the license from from korea and I was was <mandarin>就是有一段时间:jiu shi you yi duan shi jian</mandarin> I was like practicing in in korea but until because of COVID then then at that point of time <mandarin>我没有办法:wo mei you ban fa</mandarin> so I had to uh come back lor and because <mandarin>因为:yin wei</mandarin> like all the visa the the the issues right and and <mandarin>就是很很麻烦:jiu shi hen hen ma fan</mandarin> and and at that point like everyone has to like uh you know uh work from home so in a in a sense whereby because <mandarin>因为我是外国人:yin wei wo shi wai guo ren</mandarin> mah so they will think like !aiya! I might as well you know just leave the locals and then why should I still keep the the foreigner right and then then #bo bian# lor <mandarin>他们就:ta men jiu</mandarin> like send me home lor and then so yeah so so yeah that's that's quite sad lah but it was a very good experience back then lah then <mandarin>我回来了:wo hui lai le</mandarin> so I at that point of time I was also like quite lost <mandarin>因为我没有:yin wei wo mei you</mandarin> like any plans it was back in march ah and then uh I think looking for a job was also very tough at that point of time <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> I just started my own lor since since like uh like my field is a bit niche also and


uh is a different perspective from like the other people who graduated uh in in like usually a western background <mandarin>所以我就觉得:suo yi wo jiu jue de</mandarin> or maybe this is like something that <mandarin>我我做:wo wo zuo</mandarin> and then it will like stand out uh amongst like the other competitors ah so <mandarin>我就开始:wo jiu kai shi</mandarin> lor then I started then err yeah it has been about seven months already lor then uh thankfully <mandarin>就是:jiu shi</mandarin> err ya err like things are moving and then that like <mandarin>越来越多:yue lai yue duo</mandarin> projects <mandarin>进来:jin lai</mandarin> lor which I hopefully phase three comes right if you've ever comes then ya then things will


, oh <mandarin>很难讲:hen nan jiang</mandarin> eh <mandarin>我觉得:wo jue de</mandarin> ,


, , (mmhmm)


, that more badly affected


, (mmhmm)


, , (mmhmm) <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor I understand ah so yeah but hopefully hopefully things turn around ah <mandarin>因为:yin wei</mandarin> like to be honest it's it's quite tough also like like on on many levels lah like even even for my for my end right there were like uh some


uh partners whereby <mandarin>我一起工作的:wo yi qi gong zuo de</mandarin> lah then like <mandarin>他们:ta men</mandarin> they are doing quite well at the start but now then did they are are quite big companies you know in singapore then now right at this point of time they !wah! <mandarin>自己的可能:zi ji de ke neng</mandarin> outlet lah <mandarin>什么东西:shen me dong xi</mandarin> they or or staff they started retrenching so in a way whereby oh even for myself as a consultant hor <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> !wah! <mandarin>我也是:wo ye shi</mandarin> quite affected lah to be honest so uh even like such bigger companies they are already suffering so err in a way whereby like even the smaller fishes like like my myself so yeah it is actually taking a toll lah to be honest and then err and then like now right it's like everyone just <mandarin>有什么:you shen me</mandarin> opportunity just grab <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> lah and to be honest like even the how how how would I say like the the revenue and the the uh like how much you earn the profits


ya they are just to be honest <mandarin>不是很高:bu shi hen gao</mandarin> lah ya so this is the the thing now and then if like let's say really this phase three hor <mandarin>没有来:mei you lai</mandarin> hor !wah! <mandarin>真的:zhen de</mandarin> !wah! <mandarin>真的会:zhen de hui</mandarin> err <mandarin>我觉得:wo jue de</mandarin> lah <mandarin>我觉得会:wo jue de hui</mandarin> like more and more <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> companies right <mandarin>他们会:ta men hui</mandarin> like close lor ya and then indirectly or <mandarin>收回:shou hui</mandarin> affect lah yeah


(mmhmm), the the what


oh I think I know already yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, ya ya ya


, rental and all that right, ya lah,


(mmhmm), <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> , , ya yeah yeah I think I think I I heard of it I heard about it I saw it like somewhere but uh yeah and then you know but I mean like if you go to suntec now suntec is quite


ah there are a lot of shops especially uh uh uh like between I think it was like tower three or tower four <mandarin>那里:na li</mandarin> like <mandarin>真的:zhen de</mandarin> a lot of shops have closed ah and then yeah it's <mandarin>真的:zhen de</mandarin> very bad lah at this point of time and then


I I don't know what what what do you think of like you know , I mean like <mandarin>你你也是:ni ni ye shi</mandarin> business man mah so what what do you think of like like retail now like you think like it's advisable to maybe get a a storefront or maybe should you know should it be like fully uh e-commerce kind of thing


no , , (mmhmm), ya okay


, like how how people sell lah


<mandarin>明白明:ming bai ming</mandarin> ,


, (mmhmm), ,


(uh huh),


, <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> , ,


(mmhmm), (hmm),


, (mmhmm), , , I for me for me I I to be honest ah <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> like I'm I'm not very uh


to be honest like business that kind of thing right to me it's like something uh I'm still learning lah and then like <mandarin>有时候:you shi hou</mandarin> right because like usually ah my my field is more of like uh healthcare and medical side <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> like whatever that <mandarin>我学过:wo xue guo</mandarin> and I learn right is is like all very err how how would I said like very technical stuff lah <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> like when I started to like even build my my own brand right <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> starting <mandarin>的时候:de shi hou</mandarin> I like to be honest it was tough but then err like thankfully lah like <mandarin>我周围:wo zhou wei</mandarin> like I have got few friends whereby they they are quite a business


savvy and then they have their own uh how to say like business yeah so so like from them right <mandarin>我就:wo jiu</mandarin> like learn more about that lah and then like some of them I to be honest <mandarin>他们的:ta men de</mandarin> whatever that like base on


I I I don't know like like about about like anything else or like the market <mandarin>这些东西:zhe xie dong xi</mandarin> lah but like based on uh what I see like what my friends are doing <mandarin>有一些他们:you yi xie ta men</mandarin> err they are still doing very well like <mandarin>有一些朋友:you yi xie peng you</mandarin> right they open like their their own cafe right it has been there for like six or seven years already you know and yeah and then the business is still going and on so <mandarin>有一些:you yi xie</mandarin> F&B right I err err they are still surviving and uh like for example like maybe coffee this kind of thing right usually people will still want to go to the shop and get <mandarin>一个一杯热的咖啡:yi ge yi bei re de ka fei</mandarin> right because


you if you #da bao# the the coffee bag it is like the eh for instance like you you maybe you order delivery that kind of thing then, the coffee will not definitely will will not be as hot as as how <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> physically <mandarin>去那边买:qu na bian mai</mandarin> lor <mandarin>所以我觉得:suo yi wo jue de</mandarin> like some things right there are uh pros and cons ah then whereas like uh people whereby they are selling some products or <mandarin>可能有一些:ke neng you yi xie</mandarin> services hor then whereby people <mandarin>没有去想说:mei you qu xiang shuo</mandarin> oh <mandarin>我需用:wo xu yong</mandarin> my eyes and see or or or you know use my five senses to understand whether you know this I have to physically <mandarin>过去那边:guo qu na bian</mandarin> and you know spend this amount of time whereby <mandarin>我可以:wo ke yi</mandarin> maybe stay home watch watch uh online shows or something else spend with my family


and ya lor so <mandarin>有些人会:you xie ren hui</mandarin> like feel that [orh] maybe I I at home right then uh it's you know if all these things that are can be can be sent to me why not like I I don't have to waste more time at at my comfort lah <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> I think that more and more people are actually getting uh like <mandarin>越来越:yue lai yue</mandarin> comfortable with this idea that uh delivery services and all that so uh that's why some of the businesses they they are actually suffering I think because uh firstly it seem even <mandarin>他们有一个:ta men you yi ge</mandarin> like <mandarin>一个店面:yi ge dian mian</mandarin> right uh a store there but then <mandarin>他们过去那边:ta men guo qu na bian</mandarin> right and then there there is like nothing how to say like that I can do this at home lah why why why why not I I just do it at home then because of that they they were like err suffer from <mandarin>他们的那个:ta men de na ge</mandarin> rental and all utility bills that kind of thing <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> uh this is like a how to say err like a uh burden would I say a burden or rather like it's affecting them ah <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> like <mandarin>有一些:you yi xie</mandarin> err <mandarin>朋友:peng you</mandarin> right they decided to just or they just close the the the the shop and they're just run warehouses but then like I mentioned there are people whereby somehow they like even they are on the retail side hor <mandarin>他们的店面:ta men de dian mian</mandarin> is there right people will still rather go down physically like you mentioned or so there's still probably I think that might be a shift


oh, ,


(mmhmm), yeah yeah


right right, right right yeah <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor <mandarin>我也是这样觉得:wo ye shi zhe yang jue de</mandarin> yeah <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> this is still a thing lah that that whereby by uh I I don't know like like and the end maybe like you know your skincare products <mandarin>这些你会想是说:zhe xie ni hui xiang shi shuo</mandarin> or I will want to have a a shop or do you think that you will go go like fully online


and uh, online right, correct <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor ya so is is <mandarin>真的:zhen de</mandarin> is tough lor like for me also like there there were this there was this point whereby <mandarin>我还想说:wo hai xiang shuo</mandarin> or should I even uh like open a clinic that kind of thing and then but <mandarin>我想是说:wo xiang shi shuo</mandarin> like now right I even if let's say if I have like maybe referral from a a doctor or <mandarin>什么:shen me</mandarin> then then usually <mandarin>现在他们也是要:xian zai ta men ye shi yao</mandarin> like online like <mandarin>见那个:jian na ge</mandarin> patient or anything but rather than that you know uh physically go to the clinic also lah so because of like all the social distancing issues ah uh then in the end I decide uh err yeah I I would just work work remotely and then uh if let's say and err anyone wants to like meet I will just use a an online platform lah to meet lah which has been what err my clients uh they prefer lor <mandarin>现在他们就是这样觉得:xian zai ta men jiu shi zhe yang jue de</mandarin> lah <mandarin>为什么我需要:wei shen me wo xu yao</mandarin> like go all the way to maybe uh like orchard just to <mandarin>看你:kan ni</mandarin> for like <mandarin>一个小时:yi ge xiao shi</mandarin> yeah yeah so also they also think like that lah so I think people are getting too comfortable at home


correct, (mmhmm)


(mmhmm), right right right, ,


right right right but I know I know of like friends whereby uh they are how to say ah <mandarin>可能他们比较:ke neng ta men bi jiao</mandarin> err <mandarin>死板:si ban</mandarin> lah I think whereby they really like how to say ah you've know you know during the period whereby uh it was circuit circuit breaker right <mandarin>他们:ta men</mandarin> will like really I don't know if let's say the work is like from nine to five or nine to six hor <mandarin>他们真的会:ta men zhen de hui</mandarin> like uh you know you know you know like <mandarin>有些人:you xie ren</mandarin> they like they will like during like their whole period of time sometimes they might eh AFK or something they were just just you know Lepak one corner that kind of thing or rest that kind of thing but no eh <mandarin>他们讲说:ta men jiang shuo</mandarin> oh you know I've to be loyal to my company like sit there the whole day that kind of thing but yeah there are people whereby they they prefer such order lah like structure to their life whereby they need to be told


ah correct like so so <mandarin>九点到到:jiu dian dao dao</mandarin> maybe maybe twelve o'clock it's my work time so my my lunchtime is only from twelve to one so so only from twelve to one I can you know maybe get something to eat but after that hor <mandarin>不可以我一定要做工:bu ke yi wo yi ding yao zuo gong</mandarin> because my company is paying me so if let's say you suddenly change that that habit of theirs right <mandarin>他们:ta men</mandarin> like you know suddenly oh oh what is happening they they cannot survive on such uh how would I say like uncertainty or rather no structure they must follow <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> plan


correct correct correct correct ya, correct correct, yeah,


yeah, maybe you know maybe <mandarin>他们是怕:ta men shi pa</mandarin> like like err maybe I will be retrenched or something if let's say if I don't do it err kind of thing yeah


(mmhmm), (mmhmm)


, (mmhmm)


, right right right


(mmhmm), (mmhmm), ,


correct lah correct,


<mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> ,


like like like for me right <mandarin>如果:ru guo</mandarin> uh I find like something that is err that I I think that you know it will help me progress in a way whereby <mandarin>我可以学到:wo ke yi xue dao</mandarin> like more uh I don't know skills or things whereby I can lead like kind of like upgrade myself while being paid at the same time like I don't mind like going back to be an employer <mandarin>真的说真的:zhen de shuo zhen de</mandarin> and


and ya but at this point of time whereby there are times whereby <mandarin>我会觉得:wo hui jue de</mandarin> !aiya! <mandarin>为什么我要:wei shen me wo yao</mandarin> you know do this to myself, and ya ya ya so like there are days whereby <mandarin>真的:zhen de</mandarin> so okay so the thing about like like so far what I have experience is that you know that there are like days whereby it's <mandarin>真的是:zhen de shi</mandarin> famine and then there are days whereby it's like a freeze you know so yeah because like in a way whereby err I I don't earn uh like you know I don't draw a salary at at this point of time lah like uh per month but rather it it based on like the the scale of the project and how many projects are there and then when will like <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> project <mandarin>的那个人会给我那个钱:de na ge ren hui gei wo na ge qian</mandarin> ah which is yeah so so this is also a struggle that that I try to overcome lah <mandarin>有时候我想:you shi hou wo xiang</mandarin> !aiya! <mandarin>惨:can</mandarin> Liao <mandarin>这个月:zhe ge yue</mandarin> hor <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> invoice ah it's not coming in how ah then !aiya! what what shall I do ah should I you know look for like some I don't know Japalang like those small jobs just to make sure that you know I I get covered like for uh maybe transport <mandarin>还是:hai shi</mandarin> you know my food hor that kind of thing so these are like sometimes <mandarin>有时后我我的那个:you shi hou wo wo de na ge</mandarin> struggle lah if yeah so err there's good and bad lor and then there are there're points whereby that I think there was like two months ago it was two months ago <mandarin>我是突然间:wo shi tu ran jian</mandarin> like its like !aiya! shit lah should I you know just get get a full time job just forget about everything or put this thing on hold lah <mandarin>算了:suan le</mandarin> you know <mandarin>怎么这样辛苦:zen me zhe yang xin ku</mandarin> for what just look at look at what is everyone doing everyone is just you know you know having a stable job then they just you know bring bring food back and the most <mandarin>像他们一样:xiang ta men yi yang</mandarin> lor just everyday complain <mandarin>而已:er yi</mandarin> lor complain about work life issues and all that but at at at at the end of the day <mandarin>他们也是:ta men ye shi</mandarin> you know oh they they you know they they have like that that that


(mmhmm)


(mmhmm), ,


, , , yeah, ya ya understand and then but then <mandarin>你会不会:ni hui bu hui</mandarin> like <mandarin>说你的你会不会:shuo ni de ni hui bu hui</mandarin> like have like this uh stress factor whereby [orh] my my my family my relatives they're what what what am I doing that kind of thing do you have that or are they like very supportive


yeah , (uh huh) !huh!, sounds familiar leh


, , correct lah


, (mmhmm), yeah, (mmhmm),


, by like for for me err err is is is stressful in a way whereby uh like uh my okay my family they are supportive like they really supportive of like what what I'm doing and all that lah but then at at times also like I think they they get like uh maybe some feedback but like I I don't know if if it's consider feedback or not ah from maybe their uh siblings you know or maybe they're friends whereby they hang out with then <mandarin>他们讲:ta men jiang</mandarin> oh <mandarin>为什么你你的儿子:wei shen me ni ni de er zi</mandarin> why why is he doing this and why why you don't want to you know go go to like uh get a proper job maybe get a government job or something <mandarin>不是很:bu shi hen</mandarin> stable stable then then then <mandarin>你就:ni jiu</mandarin> you know uh <mandarin>你就:ni jiu</mandarin> uh <mandarin>没有不需要这样担心:mei you bu xu yao zhe yang dan xin</mandarin> and then you can you can just you know us err make sure that you know just uh you do know every month <mandarin>你你:ni ni</mandarin> you have like like a stable income that kind of thing ya so in a way whereby they don't really say


ah to me lah but then I I can feel the how to say like the indirect pressure like it's either I have to do well or one fine day I just you know just get back to my err yeah corporate life


, okay,


all the different experiences lah


yeah, okay okay interesting like for me err for me I'm already in my thirties yeah I'm already in my thirties so like uh also in a way whereby


I don't I I see I see myself as like uh at at this point of time you know I should be you know like like my other peers whereby you know oh you should be err married or you should uh


it err you know have a have a proper stable job so ya so basically like like my my cliques lah to be honest like my secondary school or or that kind of like like that kind that they most of them <mandarin>他们都是:ta men dou shi</mandarin> are uh married I think like ninety percent lah there's only a couple of us that's why it's it's a bit sad also then err <mandarin>他们:ta men</mandarin> like they have their children and all that so the the the the conversations are always about their kids and then uh they sharing like tapes about you know how to how to take care of the baby <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> ya <mandarin>所以所以:suo yi suo yi</mandarin> like like at times right <mandarin>我跟:wo gen</mandarin> like my other friends who who are you know some of us <mandarin>我们只是:wo men zhi shi</mandarin> like just dating or or or or some of us are single or that kind of thing there then like <mandarin>我觉得:wo jue de</mandarin> like we also feel like !wah! like can we just leave the chat group that kind of thing yeah so so yeah so in a way whereby it's also


uh uh another form of of a stress lah but then I know that you know I shouldn't just like conform into <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> situation or or with the rest whereby like I have my own new route I have my my own life or the you know uh whatever that that I have in front of me <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> I shouldn't how to say should care so much lah


how to say should should care so much ah of like what what others do what others think and what what is that progress in life ah what somehow everytime <mandarin>我我跟我自己这样讲:wo wo gen wo zi ji zhe yang jiang</mandarin> hor but it's still matters to me in a way lah like cannot like <mandarin>放不下:fang bu xia</mandarin> lah like sometimes you see ah what what am I doing with my life ah why why am I like still so trashy that kind of thing that everyone is like <mandarin>你看:ni kan</mandarin> !wah! <mandarin>又买买房子:you mai mai fang zi</mandarin> !wah! <mandarin>又有钱做这样很美的一个:you you qian zuo zhe yang hen mei de yi ge</mandarin> renovation then !wah! <mandarin>又有孩子:you you hai zi</mandarin> and then some of them look at them !wah! they are driving very nice cars what are you doing ah <mandarin>有时候会有会觉得:you shi hou hui you hui jue de</mandarin> and !aiya! why why is it that I am just leading such a mediocre life ah ya <mandarin>所以真的:suo yi zhen de</mandarin> reality


(mmhmm), (mmhmm), okay


, right


correct, right right right right, right right


right right, , then then <mandarin>你你:ni ni</mandarin> like previously right what what were were you like doing ah if if it's not sensitive if it's ya


okay, ,


, (mmhmm), ,


alright, , <mandarin>所以所以:suo yi suo yi</mandarin> like it's like it's like <mandarin>没有:mei you</mandarin> like any uh like you don't feel like there's any satisfaction accomplishment lah so everyday is like a mundane week of routine and then yeah


, !aiyo!


(mmhmm),


right, ,


okay, so it's like a sudden switch to <mandarin>一个不一样的:yi ge bu yi yang de</mandarin> then way protocol and okay <mandarin>明白:ming bai</mandarin> I understand yeah it's frustrating this kind of things that happen


, , , <mandarin>明白明白:ming bai ming bai</mandarin> how oh so like or I like I I also you know kind of like


understand like how how you feel lah like like actually there was this period of time I I was kind of like how how would I say like someone approached me to do like trading in like but it was car trading lah car parts which is something that is totally not not my hand I don't know anything about it yeah trading in in in korea lah so so in this company in korea so so I I I entered and then I was doing the the the trading and all that kind of thing and then err it was also like


tough to be honest like in a way whereby like <mandarin>有时候:you shi hou</mandarin> is is is tough when when <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> management changes and all and also like uh for me because like firstly you know uh korean it is it's not my first language so so uh it it ya so in a way whereby I have this pressure as well so and there is also a a label whereby oh <mandarin>你是那个:ni shi na ge</mandarin> like foreigner


ya hi


yeah err hi err okay hi edwin err my name is ray K uh this year I'm twenty six I am not a a uni grad like you uh I come from a big family pretty complicated so uh it's pretty hard


for me to have a you know well education, ah <mandarin>我二十六岁我的妹妹弟弟他们全部都还在读书所以我没有那个机会去:wo er shi liu sui wo de mei mei di di ta men quan bu dou hai zai du shu suo yi wo mei you na ge ji hui qu</mandarin> pursue a higher education


err currently working in construction <mandarin>建筑的:jian zhu de</mandarin> err, we deal with err demolition err


mostly demolition but we do err HDB projects as well


my the the things I say to them and the language I use are very mixed so sometimes I do apply a a code switching a lot during work because like some some of them are like uneducated so most of their their speech are uh


ah Chapalang one lah ah, then err yeah I've been working in this industry for three years err not very new to, not very new nor not very err experienced in this industry but err it's a pretty okay industry in my opinion


ya my hobbies are running I do a lot of gaming and, err I used to be I used to be a regular in the army I signed on for five years and after I came out of army I had nowhere to go so


just nice someone introduced construction to me so I gave it a go and so here I am, yeah that's all for my intro introduction


uh


oh well uh so I hear from you you've been to Taiwan a lot lah I I myself have been to Taiwan a few times so I I kind of know what you feel <mandarin>台湾的人那里:tai wan de ren na li</mandarin> ah <mandarin>他们很:ta men hen</mandarin> skeptical err with regards to <mandarin>我们的:wo men de</mandarin> ah way of speaking ya so I I myself have been there a few times so they they they are pretty judgey towards people who are foreigners like us like once they hear us a code switching here and there mixing our chinese with english and other languages


then I I hear that err you are afraid of err, you know your your your current job situation as you know it's not uh uh iron bowl like like you said my job would be but I beg to differ in a in in in some areas because uh


deadline ah <mandarin>我们需要:wo men xu yao</mandarin> <mandarin>我们需要做完我们的工:wo men xu yao zuo wan wo men de gong</mandarin> within <mandarin>这个时断但是如果做不到我们会被罚款所以遇到这种情况现在很头痛因为突然来这样我们没有办法继续做我们的工所以:zhe ge shi duan dan shi ru guo zuo bu dao wo men hui bei fa kuan suo yi yu dao zhe zhong qing kuang xian zai hen tou tong yin wei tu ran lai zhe yang wo men mei you ban fa ji xu zuo wo men de gong suo yi</mandarin> err


then for me err I for my second wish


I would really wish like from the bottom of my heart that people will be able to understand one another like throughout in the in the entire world a lot of conflicts happen because of a misunderstanding like like uh the the the words used differently or the the the the different point the different way of err portraying their body language which made people misunderstand like sometimes uh I'm trying to mean good but my body language mean otherwise and the other party like think too much about it


ya so my second wish would be to wish for people to be understanding or be able to understand, people's intention more instead of misunderstanding so because a lot of misunderstanding caused a lot of problems in the world


yeah and for my third and final wish, I'll just it's a very simple wish I just wish that uh I'll have a happy life like I don't don't don't mean like err happy live until I'm hundred no lah like just a simple happy life err


would do for me until the day I take my last breath ah so


err


that's uh very good to know lah like err, what I would like to ask next is uh, if you one day find a time capsule from yourself ten years ago what do you think would be inside


for me uh uh yeah you can you can say first


me ah, ten years ago, I'm sixteen and sixteen I'm still in secondary school and probably back then, (hmm)


the my life is not full if it it has its a happy happy moments and even if uh ten years later my life would probably


or might not be as what I want it to be at least I have something to uh look back and read and like smile like all the precious memories that was made during that period of time lah


what about ten years from now, like if right now you're given the opportunity to uh write, err type uh put a time capsule for yourself ten years later what do you think you you you know would want to put in


, for me for me if I am to put a time capsule now for the future me, I think I would probably


honestly I'm not really sure uh what what what what would I put in the time capsule for the for the the thirty six year old me uh, probably


the same as (uh huh) if what I would put err what what would I find from a ten years ago me ah, I guess in it's pretty similar to yours because ah honestly I'm a I'm a guy with a very low self esteem and uh I do have moments of my life where I feel that have never done enough and and like


somehow uh society just decides to uh invalid my my my hard work lah and


and if I did, I should give a pat on my on my back to myself lah because I did my best like you lah so perhaps I would put in a time capsule of uh an an encouraging letter to remind myself that life goes on and no matter what I do just believe in the decisions and the things that I've I'm going to ah that I I have made


that brought me this far like so to say ten years later lah so if I manage to live until ten years later to open that time capsule to read there will be like a !hey! remember this is you you got here you made it here or on your own so be proud and yeah


that would be what I'll put in a time capsule for ten years later me


what labels have I been given by society ah to be honest right I've been given quite a few labels by society the from young till now uh


for like for like hundred percent to know really whether that person is what you think that person is lah that label that you gave that person so for me I just feel that it's not really fair that society does this to everyone lah that's why I said that err ah for one of my wishes that I wish that err people can be more understanding towards one another because


you know if you try to understand instead of just labeling and err leaving it to what you think it is like wouldn't it wouldn't the world be a better place right now yeah so one of my labels is err being lazy ah one of my few labels are being lazy or not really doing my job the being useless and


you know just incapable lah like from the people's eyes but people don't really see the effort and the things that I've done done like to contribute just because err on days where I become more lax and just want to relax after doing my job people think that I'm lazy I just wanted to like you know run away from a responsibility and and not do my job but it's just from uh


his point of view yeah so I I find it very unfair that uh that that that we are subjected to prejudice like this


yeah yeah sure, yeah sure of course


yes,


I I feel <mandarin>你说的有有道理:ni shuo de you you dao li</mandarin> like


uh <mandarin>你你不:ni ni bu</mandarin> you know have a, bearing to show that you are in a in a in a in a well well job that that the pace well like you you don't you don't wear a suit you don't you don't you don't dress just like like err someone whose important you be deemed as err


not important to society and you wouldn't go very far so that's I don't know why but that's just how uh our, our generation of an oh the the previous generation thinks for the current generation so we to be honest we're having it very hard lah <mandarin>我我我真的觉得我们现在有我们现在真的是很因为我跟你一样有:wo wo wo zhen de jue de wo men xian zai you wo men xian zai zhen de shi hen yin wei wo gen ni yi yang you</mandarin> err <mandarin>一样的问题我我我有这一天我放工的时候:yi yang de wen ti wo wo wo you zhe yi tian wo fang gong de shi hou</mandarin> ha ok <mandarin>因为我是做:yin wei wo shi zuo</mandarin> safety okay <mandarin>我是:wo shi</mandarin> safety coordinator <mandarin>在:zai</mandarin> err <mandarin>在在:zai zai</mandarin> construction site lah so err <mandarin>我的:wo de</mandarin> outfit


dirty job that nobody wants to do for the sake of money you're willing to degrade your own uh your yourself lah to just for money so that's what my my relatives thought then and !wah! was a little infuriating to to to even


I answer them lah as like I really feel that I I don't have the need to answer to them as uh this is my job I'm earning err enough for myself and for my family and to me that is good enough no matter what I'm doing even if one day I'm err doing a job of a Bangla that it has nothing to do with them what like to me as long as I know the money that I earn is err


you know with my own two hands is clean money and that's enough for me even if it's doing doing jobs that I shouldn't be doing, that's pretty well for me lah


, yes, yes sure


(uh huh), , yes


, well I I err for my case err I do have an answer already I but it's


for what I know lah I because I I've traveled to a lot of countries that a lot of countries they give water free like err like that they don't really charge the water bills and even if they do it's very minimal so but like


perhaps it for my for my opinion lah I feel that singapore water is uh way cleaner than most of the water that is uh supplied out there like uh one thing is uh our tap water, it's drinkable you don't have to you don't have to cook it whereby in the US if you just take water from the tap you try drinking it'll taste like shit you have to really err boil it and like purify it before you can even drink it from the tap because it's just uh undrinkable


there's a there's a there's a flavour to it I have no idea why but yeah there is a flavour to so it what I feel is err, although we are living in a much better terms than uh other countries where they have lack of water and or we should like just you know be grateful but then again the the water


the bills are really very high like as of as of now lah that means that singapore has this newater system right like regenerate water for free so, like paying water bills is a bit you know we we are taking water from the sea and taking water from uh the unused water that that we flushed down the drain the toilets and they recycle it so why are we paying for our recycled water so that's one thing that I also same same to you a bit unhappy about but this is something that err two opinions can change


so uh you asked me what one thing I wish was free uh to be honest I was and and my my my thinking very different from yours I wish that travel was free like travelling although although yes it consumes a lot of gas a lot of time as such et cetera et cetera and like the people need to be paid but


if if it's possible I will wish that travelling is free


uh


you know my superpower is what you want like ok my reason for the superpower because like


for me right I'm I'm a very realistic person I even if there's teleportation right err, at no cost one okay I do believe there's a there's a price to pay for everything so if let's say I have the ability to teleport doesn't mean that I can teleport anywhere around the world I do believe that it's limited to to what kind what what okay I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a well what do you call that a maniac not not manic err


the I I'm a person who is crazy about that you know <mandarin>线下:xian xia</mandarin> novels like those err <mandarin>古代:gu dai</mandarin> ya so ya so it's also like you have to teleport you must have like mana or like like you know they <mandarin>斗气:dou qi</mandarin> this kind of thing yeah consumption


in,


, (mmhmm)


err <mandarin>如果我只能吃一道菜:ru guo wo zhi neng chi yi dao cai</mandarin>


ingredients yes yes, yes


, I, , understand


[oh] for for me my my my go to dish is (err) <mandarin>蒸蛋蒸蛋:zheng dan zheng dan</mandarin> and (uh) curry chicken so these two is my go to dish


okay hello ray, yes my name is my name is edwin so uh I'll maybe I'll start with a small introduction of myself, yeah <mandarin>我我是新加坡人:wo wo shi xin jia po ren</mandarin> ah


<mandarin>我是在我是打工的:wo shi zai wo shi da gong de</mandarin> lah <mandarin>就是有去:jiu shi you qu</mandarin> office err <mandarin>我是做旅游业的:wo shi zuo lv you ye de</mandarin> so err my hobbies basically


but when I speak to my siblings I speak in english then at work also interestingly sometimes I code switch pretty quickly and it really depends on who I'm speaking with


ya <mandarin>我觉得新加坡人讲话大概大概都是这样子:wo jue de xin jia po ren jiang hua da gai da gai dou shi zhe yang zi</mandarin> lah, <mandarin>可能再跟你讲多一些关于我自己的事情:ke neng zai gen ni jiang duo yi xie guan yu wo zi ji de shi qing</mandarin>


not from a local U, err took private but my education is <mandarin>蛮传统的:man chuan tong de</mandarin> lor <mandarin>就是小学中学:jiu shi xiao xue zhong xue</mandarin> JC, uh <mandarin>然后就读:ran hou jiu du</mandarin> private U <mandarin>做工:zuo gong</mandarin> <mandarin>大概是这样:da gai shi zhe yang</mandarin> lah


uh <mandarin>可能来听听看你的介绍怎么样:ke neng lai ting ting kan ni de jie shao zen me yang</mandarin> maybe I hear from you


oh okay, uh okay ah <mandarin>不错啊做建筑的现在铁饭碗:bu cuo a zuo jian zhu de xian zai tie fan wan</mandarin> leh <mandarin>你看现在的行情反而我做旅游业的:ni kan xian zai de hang qing fan er wo zuo lv you ye de</mandarin> I have to be very worried


uh <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> Jialat lah in in hokkien la <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> Jialat


so it's very interesting that actually <mandarin>我们有这个:wo men you zhe ge</mandarin> phenomenon, uh <mandarin>在:zai</mandarin> workplace <mandarin>更奇怪:geng qi guai</mandarin> but <mandarin>他们很其实不止我们会:ta men hen qi shi bu zhi wo men hui</mandarin> code switch lah <mandarin>你看其他:ni kan qi ta</mandarin> languages


then after that <mandarin>又:you</mandarin> switched back to english with us


yeah and they suddenly like <mandarin>为什么这个人的:wei shen me zhe ge ren de</mandarin> english <mandarin>是有两种:shi you liang zhong</mandarin> english, it happens ah <mandarin>所以蛮蛮有趣的:suo yi man man you qu de</mandarin> lah, yeah


I see I see yeah uh I I guess every industry will will have its difficulties ah so, it's just twenty twenty <mandarin>就是:jiu shi</mandarin> like <mandarin>很:hen</mandarin> Sian lor in in general yeah I think even the <mandarin>铁饭碗:tie fan wan</mandarin> roles right also <mandarin>开始会:kai shi hui</mandarin> like <mandarin>觉得:jue de</mandarin> !aiyo! <mandarin>为什么为什么这样:wei shen me wei shen me zhe yang</mandarin> ah this year <mandarin>很:hen</mandarin> Sian yeah


uh I agree lah I agree err even my friends that like do teaching lah <mandarin>这些:zhe xie</mandarin> what people <mandarin>觉得是铁饭的:jue de shi tie fan de</mandarin> jobs right actually <mandarin>他们也是跟我讲:ta men ye shi gen wo jiang</mandarin> err you you will never know, ya lor so <mandarin>还好现在年底了可能大家心情就比较好一点:hai hao xian zai nian di le ke neng da jia xin qing jiu bi jiao hao yi dian</mandarin> then like you know try to <mandarin>过一个比较不一样的:guo yi ge bi jiao bu yi yang de</mandarin> christmas <mandarin>不一样的:bu yi yang de</mandarin> new year but everyone still <mandarin>在:zai</mandarin> look forward to normalcy to return lah


<mandarin>如果你有三个愿望:ru guo ni you san ge yuan wang</mandarin> right <mandarin>你的愿望会是什么:ni de yuan wang hui shi shen me</mandarin> like maybe I can go first lah so if I had three wishes right I would think


I really wish that this world would have no disease, people like err are a bit more aware of the environment


ya <mandarin>因为我是一个很:yin wei wo shi yi ge hen</mandarin> environmentally friendly <mandarin>的人:de ren</mandarin> lah <mandarin>我会:wo hui</mandarin> what


even though <mandarin>从小学就教到你都毕业这样的:cong xiao xue jiu jiao dao ni dou bi ye zhe yang de</mandarin> but


uh <mandarin>会:hui</mandarin> eh <mandarin>有时候你会:you shi hou ni hui</mandarin> like work so hard then <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> earn <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> money to like spend because, because <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> work very hard mah <mandarin>你不:ni bu</mandarin> spend <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> like you know, Gam <mandarin>完这样:wan zhe yang</mandarin> but <mandarin>其实久了你会觉得:qi shi jiu le ni hui jue de</mandarin> like eh <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> work so hard for what <mandarin>有没有会有那种:you mei you hui you na zhong</mandarin> feeling lah for me lah <mandarin>我觉得我会:wo jue de wo hui</mandarin> lah


so <mandarin>就听听看你的:jiu ting ting kan ni de</mandarin> three wishes lor


I see !wow! my family is a bit different my parents are still together so the usual lah dad mom, uh I have a elder brother and a younger brother so I'm the middle child all boys at home


err, err <mandarin>家里的情况:jia li di qing kuang</mandarin> I think


ya <mandarin>我是觉得:wo shi jue de</mandarin> I also just want a happy life and , I think how we each define happiness is to each own's definition lah everyone's definition of happiness is different


like you know some people <mandarin>可能觉得:ke neng jue de</mandarin> [orh] <mandarin>我有钱有房有车有事业有老婆有孩子这样子就是他的:wo you qian you fang you che you shi ye you lao po you hai zi zhe yang zi jiu shi ta de</mandarin> happy


uh <mandarin>不用担心这个担心那个可以做自己想做的事情这个就是他们的:bu yong dan xin zhe ge dan xin na ge ke yi zuo zi ji xiang zuo de shi qing zhe ge jiu shi ta men de</mandarin> happy so ya lor <mandarin>我就觉得其实:wo jiu jue de qi shi</mandarin> like happiness <mandarin>很重要:hen zhong yao</mandarin> lah <mandarin>只要是你自己你自己做的东西你也不要去跟别人比:zhi yao shi ni zi ji ni zi ji zuo de dong xi ni ye bu yao qu gen bie ren bi</mandarin> like <mandarin>你觉得你做的东西你开心就好:ni jue de ni zuo de dong xi ni kai xin jiu hao</mandarin> lor <mandarin>好:hao</mandarin> lor <mandarin>好:hao</mandarin> lor


so ten years ago what will be inside, (hmm), ten years ago !wah! <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> very <mandarin>很很好的问题:hen hen hao de wen ti</mandarin> very good question


I think <mandarin>我我真的会放:wo wo zhen de hui fang</mandarin> like err


like <mandarin>这个朋友可以交吗那个朋友可以交吗等下做什么你担心的东西是完全跟你现在:zhe ge peng you ke yi jiao ma na ge peng you ke yi jiao ma deng xia zuo shen me ni dan xin de dong xi shi wan quan gen ni xian zai</mandarin> like uh <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> adults or rather things that you will think about are very very different, uh and things that make you happy in the past is also very different


ya so I'll probably have like maybe photos of me and my friends in my time capsule, how about yours


ten years later so


[orh] <mandarin>你没有做这个你没有做那个其实:ni mei you zuo zhe ge ni mei you zuo na ge qi shi</mandarin> whatever that you could have done you already have done


you have to <mandarin>跟你自己讲:gen ni zi ji jiang</mandarin> like [orh] <mandarin>我会跟我自己讲:wo hui gen wo zi ji jiang</mandarin> lah


I chose happiness it's a correct step rather than I choose to give up a lot of things than that and I'm not happy, so I would want to tell myself did I want the myself ten years later to know that I


valued myself so uh <mandarin>那不是对的:na bu shi dui de</mandarin> lor, ya <mandarin>我觉得我会需要这样子的一封信啦跟我自己讲:wo jue de wo hui xu yao zhe yang zi de yi feng xin la gen wo zi ji jiang</mandarin> lah


eh


okay I use the term <mandarin>人家就是:ren jia jiu shi</mandarin> like generally lah


I feel like people think that you know


and <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> best right <mandarin>社会的:she hui de</mandarin> best <mandarin>跟我们的:gen wo men de</mandarin> best <mandarin>同样吗:tong yang ma</mandarin> what's best for <mandarin>社会:she hui</mandarin> and what's best for <mandarin>你自己:ni zi ji</mandarin> right <mandarin>我觉到永远不会:wo jue dao yong yuan bu hui</mandarin> align <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> in <mandarin>我的看法:wo de kan fa</mandarin> lah


then <mandarin>我已经三十二了吗所以人家就:wo yi jing san shi er le ma suo yi ren jia jiu</mandarin> uh <mandarin>很多就是为什么这个人不要结婚为什么还不想:hen duo jiu shi wei shen me zhe ge ren bu yao jie hun wei shen me hai bu xiang</mandarin> settle down


then <mandarin>就:jiu</mandarin> [orh] he must be rich kid lah simple uh maybe like I had a very easy life, but to be honest those people that put those label on me <mandarin>他认识我吗:ta ren shi wo ma</mandarin> they know what I have gone through or not nobody knows what


but <mandarin>其实你长大之后你会开始发现到为什么你会这样想:qi shi ni zhang da zhi hou ni hui kai shi fa xian dao wei shen me ni hui zhe yang xiang</mandarin> ah <mandarin>是谁教的:shi shei jiao de</mandarin> yeah who thought you that, yeah <mandarin>其实:qi shi</mandarin> once I <mandarin>停止就是:ting zhi jiu shi</mandarin> like once I stop putting labels on people and I don't I don't say that I totally stopped doing that I'm everyone does that day in day out


but <mandarin>有时候你:you shi hou ni</mandarin> label <mandarin>一个人的时候:yi ge ren de shi hou</mandarin> right <mandarin>我觉得你会有那个:wo jue de ni hui you na ge</mandarin> a retrospective thinking ah <mandarin>你会想一想其实我这样我要在:ni hui xiang yi xiang qi shi wo zhe yang wo yao zai</mandarin> label <mandarin>他吗:ta ma</mandarin> do I really know that person


so maybe <mandarin>现在我就:xian zai wo jiu</mandarin> formally <mandarin>问回你:wen hui ni</mandarin> lor what labels have you been given by the society


<mandarin>了解了解会:liao jie liao jie hui</mandarin> lah <mandarin>其实这些标签:qi shi zhe xie biao qian</mandarin> err


, okay <mandarin>我选择不把它当成:wo xuan ze bu ba ta dang cheng</mandarin> say got <mandarin>很其实我会生气的事情:hen qi shi wo hui sheng qi de shi qing</mandarin> lah, uh <mandarin>就是有时候我过年:jiu shi you shi hou wo guo nian</mandarin> lah uh


so uh I was wearing a T shirt bermudas my sneakers I was having uh I was wearing a cap


I had my bag and my laptop inside actually that's all I need for work I only need my laptop, uh so I told them yeah yeah my work don't really require me to dress up err that's not the focus, so the first reaction that I got was a bit infuriating lah at first when I when I heard it the answer I got from them was <mandarin>好像没有很认真:hao xiang mei you hen ren zhen</mandarin> leh


so yeah I I basically got judged and like labeled like ah I'm not serious at my work I'm doing something that is you know for fun ya so I mean I I definitely get you like whereby I also hope that people can understand people better


err <mandarin>我也不会费精神去教他们:wo ye bu hui fei jing shen qu jiao ta men</mandarin> I'm not going to waste my time teaching people we only have so much time in the world <mandarin>不需要的:bu xu yao de</mandarin> so even when <mandarin>有时候你老板讲你讲你老板讲你:you shi hou ni lao ban jiang ni jiang ni lao ban jiang ni</mandarin> lazy


it's just a gamble lor I would just look at how the so called laziest person do his work does he get the work done or not and does he get it done on time and if he gets it done on time you need to rethink why did you call him lazy and like


ya lor so maybe like you can have your thoughts on this <mandarin>你觉得:ni jue de</mandarin> leh


I I definitely agree lah and I think that's why my if I were to give you advice lah <mandarin>我是觉得就是:wo shi jue de jiu shi</mandarin> lead our lives our own way <mandarin>不用去不用去在意人家讲什么的其实你一开始:bu yong qu bu yong qu zai yi ren jia jiang shen me de qi shi ni yi kai shi</mandarin> adopt this kind of mentality whereby you start to ignore people's opinions right actually


(hmm)


okay so uh !wah! this topic <mandarin>不错很多很多:bu cuo hen duo hen duo</mandarin> both of us have quite a few opinions on this ah so I think maybe our move on to a not say happier note but like lighter note maybe, err err let me just take a look err <mandarin>我看一下:wo kan yi xia</mandarin> ah err


so uh okay <mandarin>这个蛮有趣的:zhe ge man you qu de</mandarin> what is one thing that you wish was free <mandarin>你觉得:ni jue de</mandarin> like <mandarin>什么东西:shen me dong xi</mandarin> free <mandarin>的最好其实我的我自己的答案:de zui hao qi shi wo de wo zi ji de da an</mandarin> right <mandarin>蛮:man</mandarin> practical <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> lah


err I wish that err, drinking water lah was free <mandarin>因为其实我他是真的:yin wei qi shi wo ta shi zhen de</mandarin> to me lah <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> okay <mandarin>我的人有点像水桶:wo de ren you dian xiang shui tong</mandarin> that's what they call the funny term for it lah <mandarin>我没有喝水:wo mei you he shui</mandarin> right I cannot one


and actually singapore everywhere people have to pay for clean water right but <mandarin>其实:qi shi</mandarin> clean water is uh necessity leh, money is like <mandarin>没有人会死的:mei you ren hui si de</mandarin> you know then <mandarin>为什么要还钱:wei shen me yao huan qian</mandarin> is like


proper <mandarin>的水:de shui</mandarin> then you know <mandarin>人家会死这样:ren jia hui si zhe yang</mandarin> so to me is if it's a necessity like why must we pay for it it's not like you know I can go to like the ocean <mandarin>自己拿水:zi ji na shui</mandarin> and then <mandarin>我可以喝这样:wo ke yi he zhe yang</mandarin> so sometimes <mandarin>我还水电费:wo hai shui dian fei</mandarin> I <mandarin>我可能我在埋怨很多我觉我还水电费有时候还水的东西我很:wo ke neng wo zai man yuan hen duo wo jue wo hai shui dian fei you shi hou hai shui de dong xi wo hen</mandarin> !aiyo! I cannot lah but I feel like if <mandarin>真的:zhen de</mandarin> ah one thing that can be free right I really hope that water can be free


ya so <mandarin>等一下听一下你的意见:deng yi xia ting yi xia ni de yi jian</mandarin> lor <mandarin>你可以用点时间想不用紧的不要急着回答:ni ke yi yong dian shi jian xiang bu yong jin de bu yao ji zhe hui da</mandarin> ha


yeah I agree I agree


or both <mandarin>可以:ke yi</mandarin> both, okay <mandarin>因为:yin wei</mandarin> like <mandarin>你懂那个:ni dong na ge</mandarin> okay <mandarin>我是想问:wo shi xiang wen</mandarin> ah <mandarin>那那个:na na ge</mandarin> unusual superpower what would it be


ya <mandarin>其实我的:qi shi wo de</mandarin> unusual superpower I wish I can teleport <mandarin>我连:wo lian</mandarin> teleport <mandarin>华语这样讲我都不懂:hua yu zhe yang jiang wo dou bu dong</mandarin> but like yeah yeah I can if ya if I can have a unusual superpower I would really like to teleport


to my work home teleport go home <mandarin>多方便:duo fang bian</mandarin> you know yeah that's one superpower that


uh I I had lah in mind when I was very young and sometimes people asked me this question before see last time I used to say things are one super strength lah to be super rich ah but no eh after I grew up <mandarin>这个真的是最实用的不寻常的超能力:zhe ge zhen de shi zui shi yong de bu xun chang de chao neng li</mandarin>


<mandarin>因为对我来说很:yin wei dui wo lai shuo hen</mandarin> liberating and I really see the world in err in different in different eyes lor


yeah <mandarin>我就需要:wo jiu xu yao</mandarin> like <mandarin>我出国学很多东西:wo chu guo xue hen duo dong xi</mandarin> about myself about the world about how people interact


there has to be like err there has to be like a consumption to you okay I agree I agree definitely


I agree I agree


very useful lah I I have to say lah and I mean to your point uh even though singapore's small our our commute is not the like the <mandarin>很舒服的这样:hen shu fu de zhe yang</mandarin> lah sometimes cause I, I stay very far away from my workplace so my daily commute if I were to is two hours lor so one hour there one hour back mah


ya so that's why maybe it's because <mandarin>我活在当下:wo huo zai dang xia</mandarin> right <mandarin>你还在每天在花那个一个小时去上班再花那个一个小时回家你会觉得:ni hai zai mei tian zai hua na ge yi ge xiao shi qu shang ban zai hua na ge yi ge xiao shi hui jia ni hui jue de</mandarin> like <mandarin>这个时间可以来比较好用一点:zhe ge shi jian ke yi lai bi jiao hao yong yi dian</mandarin> lah so I feel like this is ah superpower that I would definitely want to have lah ha


err <mandarin>等一下:deng yi xia</mandarin> ah, err <mandarin>也是跟我想问的另外一个问题有关:ye shi gen wo xiang wen de ling wai yi ge wen ti you guan</mandarin> ah <mandarin>我我希望我希望我可以:wo wo xi wang wo xi wang wo ke yi</mandarin> like <mandarin>永远不会发肥这样你明白吗就是你可以吃一大堆东西:yong yuan bu hui fa fei zhe yang ni ming bai ma jiu shi ni ke yi chi yi da dui dong xi</mandarin> can eat as unhealthily as you want one can drink you know tons of like alcohol like it's you can smoke can do whatever you want but you will never be like unhealthy


ya <mandarin>所以其实我第二个想问的问题就是:suo yi qi shi wo di er ge xiang wen de wen ti jiu shi</mandarin> err


so like is it good looks or fit body, it can be both ways ah because some people see like fit body as in aesthetically or is it healthy


ya so I maybe put like aesthetically <mandarin>因为:yin wei</mandarin> I feel ah this is where the question is like <mandarin>在在在:zai zai zai</mandarin> drive <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> direction


agree agree yeah <mandarin>因为其实我我是觉得:yin wei qi shi wo wo shi jue de</mandarin> okay <mandarin>身体就是健康你是可以自己去培养去照顾的:shen ti jiu shi jian kang ni shi ke yi zi ji qu pei yang qu zhao gu de</mandarin> but looks right I feel like people should, except aging and like you know your looks as it is like don't try like crazy hard to go and change things like you know


uh <mandarin>可以:ke yi</mandarin> take on plastic surgery to okay if you take on plastic surgery to change a certain defect may be let's say you have like a slanted lip or something like that I don't know, uh I think that's acceptable but if you are trying to use plastic surgery to look constantly young and like a certain image right I find that is a bit unhealthy like <mandarin>你没有在接受自己这样:ni mei you zai jie shou zi ji zhe yang</mandarin> lah


ya so err okay <mandarin>因为既然我们有一直聊到吃的东西:yin wei ji ran wo men you yi zhi liao dao chi de dong xi</mandarin> lah <mandarin>就很想问这个我觉得这个最后一个问题:jiu hen xiang wen zhe ge wo jue de zhe ge zui hou yi ge wen ti</mandarin> for today lah


, okay then


ingredient the topping yeah , okay okay


<mandarin>会:hui</mandarin> lah <mandarin>我也是偶尔我就吃菜饭其实我吃菜饭我也是选的东西几乎都是一样的就是你喜欢那几样很难改:wo ye shi ou er wo jiu chi cai fan qi shi wo chi cai fan wo ye shi xuan de dong xi ji hu dou shi yi yang de jiu shi ni xi huan na ji yang hen nan gai</mandarin> feel like cannot change one this kind of thing


ya like I'll always have the <mandarin>咕噜肉:gu lu rou</mandarin> and the <mandarin>炒蛋:chao dan</mandarin> cannot don't have one


ya, hello, ya you too so how's life


me ah, well, what do you want to know about me


is like more me , trying to like upgrade myself lor like basically going for courses like digital marketing


then <mandarin>在那边你可以学:zai na bian ni ke yi xue</mandarin> programming, okay lah it's not really programming it's more like err website building, then <mandarin>你会用到:ni hui yong dao</mandarin> err <mandarin>那个很出名那个什么:na ge hen chu ming na ge shen me</mandarin> err Adobe


if you want to know more about my personal life like err whether I got girlfriend or not err, check <mandarin>我的:wo de</mandarin> Instagram


[orh] <mandarin>没有:mei you</mandarin> lah <mandarin>那个只是:na ge zhi shi</mandarin> interview for a tele marketing job so <mandarin>那个是不一样那个是用:na ge shi bu yi yang na ge shi yong</mandarin> handphone so that one is you call people and you try to sell your product, but I think <mandarin>那个应该是没有机会了:na ge ying gai shi mei you ji hui le</mandarin> lah <mandarin>因为那个:yin wei na ge</mandarin> agent [orh]


but err digital marketing that one is like, is just to get you to familiarise on how to err build a website yourself


and how to, err, design like <mandarin>做美美:zuo mei mei</mandarin> lor <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> website, and then so that you can you have the potential to, find a job, err


because like all this err


err, and then normally <mandarin>大学生你出来:da xue sheng ni chu lai</mandarin> your and your monthly salary will be around like three K four K


but now, times are so bad that they're they're also trying for this kind of one point five K jobs, so


easy money lah, Y lead a'ah got good memories and bad memories ah


ya, you don't know meh, you follow me on Instagram <mandarin>你看见这样多了你还不懂:ni kan jian zhe yang duo le ni hai bu dong</mandarin> meh


, is your classmate eh


okay lah I mean like Y lead err if you want to say fruitful it should be like, the things that err <mandarin>我们做过:wo men zuo guo</mandarin> but like not really like err for girlfriend because at that point of time, <mandarin>没有什么跟她有接触:mei you shen me gen ta you jie chu</mandarin> lah


I would say then cause like most of the time like you, focus on our own task, and ya lor hardly <mandarin>接触:jie chu</mandarin> because me and her we are from like we are from the same comm but we are like, we are err in charge of different things so


match <mandarin>到:dao</mandarin> lah hor, so it's like, err how how we started was like err way after lah in fact it's just this year only


ah ya lah I mean, graduated <mandarin>是好事:shi hao shi</mandarin> lah but,


ya you lah miss Koo everytime catch you sleeping eh #jun an# are you okay, #jun an# are you okay, but who knows what you're actually doing under the table


but this one is like, err <mandarin>在找工作:zai zhao gong zuo</mandarin> like me, just I don't know maybe busy with err polishing up their portfolio like going for those kind of err


err, volunteering volunteers at NGO's ya so, I mean at this point of time <mandarin>也是:ye shi</mandarin> quite hard to meet up anyway since err one group is so huge


cycle <mandarin>到:dao</mandarin> Sentosa, jayden ,


ya I get you eh wait then you did we actually even have like any cards for each other don't have right


did we actually have any cards written for each other at the end of year two don't have right


ya but <mandarin>那个时候每个人都在:na ge shi hou mei ge ren dou zai</mandarin> stress mah exam then the and and and also like honestly speaking the class wasn't like, bonded, it's only like


ya so I guess it's it's also, quite difficult lah because like there's some people who just


ya so, I mean, I mean you all wrote the cards then in the end you all also never get anything back so, like, I I'm not I'm not saying that it it's a bad thing but it's just like <mandarin>有点酸:you dian suan</mandarin> you know


ya but you you already did your best I mean you already came up with some initiatives but nobody, err, well you tried your best lah


so I guess, I mean your your, I I wouldn't say like possibly lifelong friends lah just like this few in a clique lor I guess from now on


from this school, then after that as you go on at life you go work NS, you know you have more friends that way lor


cause like


actually right a lot of things I don't miss in fact I'm happy that it's over but, I mean there are like, err some people and some things lah like for example like some some teachers ah not all, like especially those that have like err helped me a lot along the way


err ya but, I guess, , ya but


what I miss most, is more like, those err periods where, we actually, err got to do something fun


like err the time where I was selected for Y lead you know, !hannor! <mandarin>就是这样:jiu shi zhe yang</mandarin> lor, that's thats that's about it lah


so, what are your prospects about NS


sorry my my PES, or my plans, so I I'm actually combat fit and then I got posted to SCDF, and then


ya lor so, so I guess it's uh, in a way <mandarin>我的:wo de</mandarin> NS <mandarin>不会说:bu hui shuo</mandarin> boring ah


and then, from for for for my for for me that I'm actually like doing something that is that puts my training to


err good use ah instead of like you know like the normal army one where, you are training only, or <mandarin>不是说不会有:bu shi shuo bu hui you</mandarin> like <mandarin>你会你不会想要有:ni hui ni bu hui xiang yao you</mandarin> lor and


I guess the feeling of err, accomplishment if you go and save people, from fires or from accidents, I guess it's quite nice lor


ya but and but <mandarin>不是说:bu shi shuo</mandarin> army <mandarin>不是不好:bu shi bu hao</mandarin> lah but like you know like, , to me personally I prefer SCDF because like honestly


then SCDF will give you the chance but army, you won't lah, ya, then plans for the future


ya <mandarin>就这样:jiu zhe yang</mandarin> lor


, ya because <mandarin>你叫我做:ni jiao wo zuo</mandarin> chemistry


then <mandarin>你叫我做:ni jiao wo zuo</mandarin> econs, I don't know like the the the the market is too niche, to me lah, like , and to me bio <mandarin>是最:shi zui</mandarin> interesting


!hannor!, especially like how they adapt how they evolve, it's actually then you just think that !wow! mother nature is actually, good like really powerful and stuff


ya, and that's what interests me about bio the most lor and, I mean the, and it's very interesting that how all these err mechanisms are brought about, by nature, ya and then it it allows you to admire nature's beauty


maybe lor haven't decide yet <mandarin>也也是要看我我的:ye ye shi yao kan wo wo de</mandarin> A level <mandarin>怎样:zen yang</mandarin> lah <mandarin>等一下考不进去:deng yi xia kao bu jin qu</mandarin> then <mandarin>乱乱讲:luan luan jiang</mandarin> then


you know


ya, I think I will choose either NTU NUS ah because <mandarin>靠近我家:kao jin wo jia</mandarin> lor don't need to waste money go stay hostel, SMU, anyway SMU <mandarin>也是没有什么:ye shi mei you shen me</mandarin> bio <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> course lah


but like SMU is so far it's at orchard and then, ah SUTD is all the way at expo, although they do have a seven year, the thing is like tech and medicine course, but <mandarin>远:yuan</mandarin> leh


imagine hor <mandarin>我我住在:wo wo zhu zai</mandarin> west leh, west <mandarin>每天跑去:mei tian pao qu</mandarin> Changi, , !hannor! so NTU NUS lah


you go and send lah now you go and send don't know how many resume how many application letter to all the company right


more than half of them don't even reply you, so this is how it is now is very bad, and I mean like to actually experience and to actually


have an idea of what you want to be <mandarin>最重要的:zui zhong yao de</mandarin> is still work experience, cause let's say right you want to be a doctor which you do, and then you actually go and understudy a doctor


and then, but right now it's quite unlikely that you get that kind of chance anymore lah because you know COVID and stuff and then, the doctor also very busy lah


and, likewise for other err industries where


so obviously for the same price you would want to choose the, the degree holder ah so, ya lor you are very you are at a disadvantage, and then,


surroundings how it how it is like how the feel of it, then


then in the end <mandarin>不懂要去做什么:bu dong yao qu zuo shen me</mandarin> then, is either go back, to academia, or <mandarin>又是再去读书读:you shi zai qu du shu du</mandarin> another degree <mandarin>出来:chu lai</mandarin> then


ya lah but <mandarin>就是:jiu shi</mandarin> boost <mandarin>我试试:wo shi shi</mandarin> lor Sian lor, now also nothing to do, right then you just do nothing you can until you enlist is a bit, Sian, that's why that's why <mandarin>再去找工作:zai qu zhao gong zuo</mandarin> lor but <mandarin>你现在在找工作:ni xian zai zai zhao gong zuo</mandarin> at least you're at least you're doing something


you know to keep yourself occupied, instead of just doing nothing and then everyday just rot away, or go on a course lor something that you're interested in pick up something new lor, ya but actually


medicine, got case lah that err, the grades


because the basic requirement <mandarin>是你的:shi ni de</mandarin> grades, !hannor! <mandarin>就是这样:jiu shi zhe yang</mandarin> lor, so I mean <mandarin>你也是可以:ni ye shi ke yi</mandarin> take <mandarin>这个机会去:zhe ge ji hui qu</mandarin> boost <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> portfolio ah doesn't have to be internship, can to be can can can be other things also like a volunteer lor


honestly I rather be I rather enlist in january, because at least, I know what I'm gonna do next and, army, army <mandarin>一定会给你一个:yi ding hui gei ni yi ge</mandarin> regime to follow so your schedule is fully planned out for you


you won't want to do anything also, err other than that I don't see that you have you would want to do anything else ah because you are damn tired


and then


right, or can help you even secure a space in university through some internship, volunteer, all this, so


I mean, at least if you enlist in january then I don't think, four months ah <mandarin>如果你找不到一个工作就算你去一个:ru guo ni zhao bu dao yi ge gong zuo jiu suan ni qu yi ge</mandarin> course and then you are just like there <mandarin>无所事事:wu suo shi shi</mandarin> because


even though <mandarin>你做那个:ni zuo na ge</mandarin> course, there isn't time for you to go and do, so I would say january is still better lah


!aiya! movie <mandarin>不用讲:bu yong jiang</mandarin> lah movie <mandarin>也是来来去去那几个:ye shi lai lai qu qu na ji ge</mandarin> , movie I think is like out of the question ah then <mandarin>现在:xian zai</mandarin> everything is so expensive !wah!


no money leh, I would I would I I would only pay for something like that like I don't know I mean I I don't know what's the market rate but I guess it's along that like thirty something that's the cheapest lah but like


I still find it a bit not worth it lah, then, the only free thing that you can do I guess is, err, normal sport activities like running, or cycling if you happen to own a bike


then you want to let's say you want to watch shows right


there isn't that much shows now also, so it's like really I guess


okay lah maybe a bit exaggerating lah but like you know, it's like you will lose your, sense of direction then your like motivation to anything, and which is which isn't good lah and


when army comes I think you will hate it a lot because it will change your life completely


err, ya lor I already told you what just now, err going for some err digital marketing course, ya


and then also occasionally going cycling, err, ya other than that really just sitting at home trying to find a book to read I mean I I just I just bought a book ah eh <mandarin>很划算:hen hua suan</mandarin> leh is err is is is is like five five books of sherlock holmes in one book so it looks like a dictionary that kind of thickness but is only ten dollars


it was from like twenty two dollars discount until ten dollars ya so I just bought it ah later I'm gonna read


and for her to know but err, if you want to know then maybe you have to stalk me I'm not going to talk I'm not going to say anything about that


that's it


well actually if you want to say is probably like err just recently lor <mandarin>这几个礼拜:zhe ji ge li bai</mandarin> err, wait actually <mandarin>没什么分别:mei shen me fen bie</mandarin> because <mandarin>你跟她已经是很好的朋友:ni gen ta yi jing shi hen hao de peng you</mandarin> so like


at a closer level but it's like she's still your best friend, but, that's it lor


, end of story


and, ya err, like that lor I mean I I, you have to be strong also ah I guess


just like how, david carried the one you liked before away


there really isn't much to share ah is really just like <mandarin>好朋友:hao peng you</mandarin> then <mandarin>变成女朋友就是这样而已:bian cheng nv peng you jiu shi zhe yang er yi</mandarin> lor


it's just one day, you just say like eh you want to get together then like [orh] okay can, then <mandarin>就这样:jiu zhe yang</mandarin> lor , ya ya ya I mean I mean I mean I mean between like me and her is is like that lor


I mean for everybody out there like, like different people is different way lah I guess, but for us it was just really just like that, nothing special


these few weeks ah


<mandarin>结婚:jie hun</mandarin> , err, not so soon ah, not at the moment but relax <mandarin>结婚一定会给你请帖的:jie hun yi ding hui gei ni qing tie de</mandarin> is a relax don't worry


!wah! BTO <mandarin>都没有赚钱:dou mei you zhuan qian</mandarin> want to buy BTO err, err nothing nothing nothing nothing of that sort lah like same uni all those nothing lah, because it's just largely up to what you want to do and, I hope


eh quite different lah I guess in terms of how we want our err future err, career to be like, so, ya lah <mandarin>如果有缘:ru guo you yuan</mandarin> to be in the same university then okay lor


but <mandarin>如果没有也是这样:ru guo mei you ye shi zhe yang</mandarin> lor, like that lor, , nothing much to say about that also, like econs economics


economics and <mandarin>她也是很喜欢:ta ye shi hen xi huan</mandarin> maths math you know


honestly, yes but my answer to that is, I guess like, I I I, I I I won't I won't see myself as as a as a as a teacher like that I I don't see myself doing that in the future


like, I will very much go for something to do with like err the police, or military, !hannor! <mandarin>就是这样:jiu shi zhe yang</mandarin> lor


because like <mandarin>老师:lao shi</mandarin> I think it's just like not not kind of not my thing, in lecture I can I can be some I can teach students but like , I want to do something, different from that because like


then, , you know it's like you don't have like experience outside of school, then


I kind of want to try something different also lah, but the army and police that one I just see how the NS goes,


volunteer <mandarin>以前也是做过:yi qian ye shi zuo guo</mandarin> but like err now because I already do before then like I like now <mandarin>在找工作:zai zhao gong zuo</mandarin> lor it's like I'm just trying to have a feel of what I like what it's like to be working in an office setting, before I actually end up there in the future


hopefully so, !hannor!, like <mandarin>做过做:zuo guo zuo</mandarin> volunteer <mandarin>我也是我也是做了:wo ye shi wo ye shi zuo le</mandarin> and I know how it feels slightly but like like right now, try lor new things, something that I have not tried before that will prepare me for my future


err, ya but, because your grades aren't bad


but err , I I I I I I, a guy as a nurse quite <mandarin>平常:ping chang</mandarin> lor like now is getting more and more common already, and and you can and like right now recently you can even get a degree as a nurse


a nursing degree so <mandarin>不错:bu cuo</mandarin> lah, that's why lor as I said that if you if you if you if you are talking about err healthcare as a broad


but it's just whether you get, err a doctor, you didn't a dream or err, was something that is close to it but not it, but <mandarin>这种东西是很难讲的:zhe zhong dong xi shi hen nan jiang de</mandarin> lah, it's


yes it's about effort but there is also some luck, like, no matter how hard


someone tries to take it from you they can't take it from you because it's yours


well of course office environment is also very important but err definitely, your, imagine now you you go err


what is that now you go now you go shake shack right shake shack and eat shake shack is so expensive, like


and and it's not just that lah cause like it's sort of like a medium high end burger thing but like


money is definitely a very important factor and of course office environment, cause you go there you don't want to toxic you don't want to have a toxic work environment then <mandarin>整天你的如果你:zheng tian ni de ru guo ni</mandarin> office <mandarin>整天玩:zheng tian wan</mandarin> politics !wah! <mandarin>很:hen</mandarin> <mandarin>很辛苦:hen xin ku</mandarin> ah


stress lor, then after that when you come home what you complain about is <mandarin>又是你的:you shi ni de</mandarin> office politic I think your family also would feel that !aiya! is quite Sian to talk to you


!aiya!, and I would also want to find a job that err, I guess to me is quite cool, like by what I mean by cool is like something in government sector, ah


I've always wanted to be in the army though but then like, never would I have thought I would be sent to SCDF but, because I always wanted to be like, experience how it's going to be a soldier cause since like everybody got it but then like <mandarin>我就是偏偏被选到:wo jiu shi pian pian bei xuan dao</mandarin> SCDF which is like


a very lucky group of guys I mean like not not sarcastically but like as in statistically because like SCDF posting is not a lot of people that get it majority is army, then, it's a bit sad that I I I won't be able to experience army but like


because I guess SCDF the discipline and stuff it's about the same one lah so if I find it if I find that it's nice then maybe I might just sign on to the army, ya because it's cool to me


!hannor! that's that's that's that's about, all I guess I that I consider, but obviously, as I grow older as I've gone through more things then there will be much more considerations lah


I mean the thing is that, where there is a there is really only so much your body can take, imagine everyday you're under that kind of high stress environment although yes lah your pay can be like what ten K more than ten K fifteen K twenty K a month


but you're under that kind of high stress environment hor, I don't think I'll be able to take it for long, I mean it's like not not that I mentally cannot but it's just that, if your job requires you to be constant to be like constant alert like at the at the office and then you have to like constantly deliver at that kind of like


standard lah for there's there's only that limited amount of time that your body can take it what, cause like imagine like your boss suddenly just keep giving you OT then like, don't let you go home all this kind of stuff suddenly keep calling you to work, you don't get enough rest


then <mandarin>也是有越来越多人也是在自杀:ye shi you yue lai yue duo ren ye shi zai zi sha</mandarin> mah, then, err, is all is like


I won't say all lah but I I would say like err workplace stress, err


and, ya so I would rather prefer a job that is like, that has a lower pay but at least


I mean just now I say <mandarin>钱很重要:qian hen zhong yao</mandarin> I mean like it's an important factor like yes it is lah but I mean I'm just saying like


err go through your expenses comfortably, and you still have some savings, that's that's that's that's what I mean by lower salary ya but uh ya lor, mental health is still much of a taboo and <mandarin>很多人就算是有也是:hen duo ren jiu suan shi you ye shi</mandarin> just somehow they don't want to <mandarin>承认:cheng ren</mandarin> that they have


you know they are in a state of denial, and then which is something that is very bad because when you are in a state of denial then you will not, get yourself treated, which is also err problem lor which further deteriorates the situation of that person who is having who is facing some problems


ya, but I guess psychiatrist I think, it's quite in demand now lah there's demand will increase in the future


cause like now everything is changing, especially for older workers, and you cannot keep up, even though you have those kind of like err workplace restructuring programmes or


for <mandarin>那些:na xie</mandarin> workers to go and upgrade yourself like all the skills future and everything, they, still may not be able to, get a good grasp of, the new technology and


how do I say like, and imagine, you, have been working in this industry for so long then <mandarin>突然间:tu ran jian</mandarin> ah, you have to start from executive level leh, from in another industry


then


so again is another stress factor here lor, so psychiatrist psychologist, demand, so I guess if you want to major if you get into medicine you can do it


you still have another chance lor like, you can go and pursue another degree that is in err healthcare but then there is still duke NUS that you can go to after your degree cause that one is for graduates to go and then you still get your medical degree but it's just like be a bit later by three to four years that's all but you'll still be a doctor


so, there will always be a way if you as long as you really want it, you know so don't need to worry lor, I mean ya lah relax now lah


eh what's up mark, [orh] eh long time no see


I mean what can I say <mandarin>就是这样:jiu shi zhe yang</mandarin> lor, I mean with the COVID situation now <mandarin>要去哪里都不可以去就是每天待在家里:yao qu na li dou bu ke yi qu jiu shi mei tian dai zai jia li</mandarin> err play games and watch netflix and you know, watch the occasional movies lor


what about you, of course not lah what the


you eh


then what what you actually doing now like how's life


[orh] oh ya speaking of Instagram I just recently downloaded it ah I see like other people you see their <mandarin>生活:sheng huo</mandarin> like so <mandarin>精彩:jing cai</mandarin> one stuff then


not say like playing games eh tell me more about your digital digital marketing is it you got a, , like a job offer from, Neh <mandarin>那天我们不是去:na tian wo men bu shi qu</mandarin> cycle lor then <mandarin>你在讲电话:ni zai jiang dian hua</mandarin> eh tell me more leh


ya I agree with you [orh] but but then you know like, ya actually, ya actually like you take up this kind of digital opportunities is quite it's quite rare the especially in times now ah like look at the demand for like cyber security and stuff like that


I mean personally I feel that <mandarin>这种行业:zhe zhong hang ye</mandarin> [orh] is very, got a lot of potential one ah ya but do you think that your website you made can be as good as <mandarin>我们学校那个:wo men xue xiao na ge</mandarin> Y lead <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> website mah


eh speaking of Y lead right how do you still remember or not, good memories ah, year five ah year five they want to talk about the


, organising committee, eh share more leh I don't really know much about that


I deactivate for how long sia <mandarin>我这种很自闭的:wo zhe zhong hen zi bi de</mandarin>


<mandarin>以前:yi qian</mandarin> mah <mandarin>不是有多一个:bu shi you duo yi ge</mandarin> meh, [orh], but you all had so much as err interaction during Y lead then I'm guessing that Y lead should be quite fruitful for you ah


and now like look at us graduated already,


you don't miss the you don't miss last time meh like (ppc) in the same class eh ya, with a squad


!aiya! sorry ah can't help ah sometimes like, !aiya! but I mean other than that you know like, you know like the outings with like nineteen J twenty one <mandarin>去看戏去吃饭去那个叫什么:qu kan xi qu chi fan qu na ge jiao shen me</mandarin> ah laser tag ah ya


err I mean those are part of like some of my favourite memories about last year, and like thinking about like right now right we don't even have like a, much chances to like go out as a group of like ten anymore so I felt that maybe like, we have


the group has like, kind of like <mandarin>分散了:fen san le</mandarin> you know like drifted apart from each other in that sense you don't really like, and like maybe like just the occasional games like you know among us and stuff ah


but other than that do we really like how to say ah, err put in effort to you know, err <mandarin>接触:jie chu</mandarin> you know ya


I mean ya lah but that was like how many <mandarin>三个人而已:san ge ren er yi</mandarin> mah, and know including the girls I mean err <mandarin>考完试过后:kao wan shi guo hou</mandarin> then <mandarin>我们有去吃:wo men you qu chi</mandarin> Shake Shack ah but other than that like we don't really interact much with them anymore I mean like how to say ah like last time we actually err


how say err <mandarin>接触过:jie chu guo</mandarin> is during, so it's like I don't know man ya


we should try and like interact with them more if not like <mandarin>我们迟早会分散:wo men chi zao hui fen san</mandarin> you know, then we just be like like that


sorry, yup, ya lor that's the thing you know like only me and I think jayden wrote for the entire class you know and like that was it so it's like


the last day of last day of school it was like I mean, I don't know like it just felt like damn, damn bad you know like no one actually put in effort to like eh you know, after all this is like sort of like <mandarin>我们最后的那一个:wo men zui hou de na yi ge</mandarin> goodbye you know like we are leaving the school and been here for like almost six years ah I mean but <mandarin>当然不包括那些:dang ran bu bao kuo na xie</mandarin> JAE <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> lor <mandarin>他们也是两年:ta men ye shi liang nian</mandarin> mah


ya I know lah that's why like a bit you know it's just like there are so many like opportunities for us to like interact and stuff like you see like at the beginning of the year <mandarin>我们去吃那个:wo men qu chi na ge</mandarin> err <mandarin>团圆饭:tuan yuan fan</mandarin> and the steamboat you know, then like, I mean looks quite bonded during that time ah but then like


it's like we went back to like our own cliques and stuff like that and then it's like how to say ah, we did interact before, err ya and then like, it's just like


it it has no effect you know, like people just go back to their own like one place and cliques then like what what is the point of you know like gathering in that sense, so it just feels like I don't know ah, a bit ya a bit <mandarin>遗憾:yi han</mandarin> like sometimes like I feel like actually I could have done more as like a chairperson or you know


Neh for the class and, ya


ya lah I mean but, but then also like, I know I'm just thinking about it you know it's like start to like miss the feeling also like, being err school with your friends then like, gathering around in the canteen to like you know <mandarin>吃:chi</mandarin> like <mandarin>那个云吞面那个:na ge yun tun mian na ge</mandarin> <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> err #yong tau foo# ah with


your friends and you know like sitting together as a class and like just like, chit-chatting about like you know, err <mandarin>你这六年的学生:ni zhe liu nian de xue sheng</mandarin> life


like err the time where, I was selected for Y lead you know, !hannor! <mandarin>就是这样:jiu shi zhe yang</mandarin> lor, that's that's that's a, I see I see which teachers do you miss the most here


still remember the err, what's what's her name ah <mandarin>那个叫什么名:na ge jiao shen me ming</mandarin> ah err the err what what is it ah SPE teacher ah ya


you don't remember ah


oh sorry, ah I was just thinking about the the teachers you know, err, but you can remember right


NS ah I mean <mandarin>就是进:jiu shi jin</mandarin> PES E <mandarin>了:le</mandarin> lor <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> slack <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> , I mean, two years of like not doing,


and just hope for the best for like my A level results ah, since like I mean the future is , uh how say ah quite uncertain ah you know, just like go in for, it's gonna be another two years of our life ah so


see like we've been in in the school for I know I keep reiterating this ah but like for six years man and then like you're finally moving onto the next chapter of your life then it just feels a bit


so will you know ya, I mean, what's your PES again, ya, ya !aiya! both lah both lah <mandarin>一起讲:yi qi jiang</mandarin> lah


I mean but <mandarin>说到:shuo dao</mandarin> preparation hor I just realise like you know, err contrary to popular belief ah like I think PES E <mandarin>是蛮重要的:shi man zhong yao de</mandarin> see ah admin work that people do right it's like it's honestly quite important ah so like ya honestly I feel quite how to say


so you are like a biology guy ah so like biological science maybe


I mean but, I mean it's good to think about your future lah you know, or what I mean for me ah like, I also, I everyday talk like <mandarin>我每天都讲我要进:wo mei tian dou jiang wo yao jin</mandarin> medicine mah but who knows whether I can get in or not


but you see the recent err B net result release you know, I was I think I did okay <mandarin>还可以:hai ke yi</mandarin> lah, but then like I mean ultimately it still depends on the A level results ah so, I mean <mandarin>讲是讲:jiang shi jiang</mandarin> lor but


it's good to plan ahead for the future lah like err like I said lor ya I mean, did you receive the emails from the schools right ya like which one do you err maybe into in for the most


NTU NUS or all those


[orh] to be <mandarin>那个远:na ge yuan</mandarin> sia I mean but if the courses are attractive then stay hostel lor, err ivy league schools or like UK universities I mean !aiya! those like I can just like dream about it and just I don't think that's even possible ah


you know going into err UCLA all those ya, but I guess oh I mean, like after universe like local universities is also not that bad lah honestly, just like ah but to be honest we still got quite a long way to go ah <mandarin>两年进:liang nian jin</mandarin> NS then <mandarin>还有时间想要做什么:hai you shi jian xiang yao zuo shen me</mandarin> lor


but <mandarin>这段时间:zhe duan shi jian</mandarin> I mean it's quite good for us to try and explore like what we want to see and, like what we actually like and like, what is the appropriate course for us to take in the future lor when you go to university, no


you go around right, like all those opportunities are like cancelled already so like it's like how to say ah <mandarin>现在也难找那种:xian zai ye nan zhao na zhong</mandarin> internship programme lah so it's like, it puts me at such a big disadvantage you know like my portfolio is less stacked than compared to like you know ah like the people in our class fighting for med also


those internship right all requires like a a good err like a diploma and stuff lah so like why would they even want to like err recruit you and stuff like that so like


I mean like looking at it now right !aiya! might as well just like enjoy the, the post the post season ah off season ah the, holiday you know


ya I know ah but I don't know ah I just wanna I mean like <mandarin>你都讲了:ni dou jiang le</mandarin> what <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> NS <mandarin>都要差不多要来了四个月:dou yao cha bu duo yao lai le si ge yue</mandarin> for and <mandarin>一个月:yi ge yue</mandarin> for some of us ah I mean like you would rather prefer the to enlist in april rather than in january right


!huh! really ah I mean <mandarin>我本身是觉得:wo ben shen shi jue de</mandarin> april <mandarin>比较好:bi jiao hao</mandarin> lah like after all like we've been grinding so hard for, A levels ah <mandarin>都已经有两年了:dou yi jing you liang nian le</mandarin> two years of our entire life, just like sitting there and studying for, that one paper


err for four subjects five subjects ya and like to be able to get such a long break is like honestly like once in a lifetime experience or a privilege I mean for me ah at least, I just feel like, going in in january is like !wah! you don't you hardly have much time to rest and like


err <mandarin>梦想:meng xiang</mandarin> and all those kind of stuff ah so like, I mean ya lah to be fair four years four months is kind of long but at least like is


find out what you really want and, stuff lor I guess ah I mean do we really like have nothing to look forward to of things you know, movies there's quite a lot of good stuff coming out ah you know


, ya lah I mean in that sense I agree with you lah but I mean ya wonder woman is like coming out soon lah next week I think, ya just a few days more, I mean ya that's like one of the


err you know like you keep flexing your your what what's that that that that card that allows you to get the laser tag for free ah I forgot what it's called ah but, !aiya! I mean can do that also what if it comes in time


I mean, you know, you really got nothing to do then what have you been doing sia


!wow! I didn't know you a fan of sherlock holmes I mean really meh cycling reading is that all you do going out with girlfriend leh


but like how did you all like progress from like you know I mean you all were like still like close friends like you know


ya then when tell me about like when it started and like you know


ya lah but but how did you pro- you know there's there's this thing called the friend zone right ya so like so like I mean like <mandarin>教我:jiao wo</mandarin> ah how do you like progress out of that like how did you like move from there to like you know, past that barrier and stuff like that


I mean after all like like you said what you you have been like friends for so long then how do you like make the move and like, you know <mandarin>交往:jiao wang</mandarin> ya


Nah Nah Nah that's not it man that's not it, how I want to know in details <mandarin>分享:fen xiang</mandarin> leh


ya that's why I'm trying to learn from you man like, share more about your experience lah


ya lah but like how did it like you know start and like how did it progress from there to there like what was the, how to say ah triggering factor you know


you make it sound so easy so wait when was that again, oh I see I mean but ya I went to build on what you say lor basically like you know having like a partner that like you know


trust you and like be your best friend is like, not bad feeling eh


I mean like ya lah I but how do you all like plan to move forward you all like


so like, what's the plan you know, same course same uni, err <mandarin>住一样的房子:zhu yi yang de fang zi</mandarin> BTO or what,


really ah what course does she wanna take, so inspired by miss Lam ah


[orh] I see I see I see, !aiya!, math ah, speaking of math right, PE <mandarin>老师数学老师:lao shi shu xue lao shi</mandarin> science teacher (ppc) GP teacher


you know, I think it's quite a good career to for you to progress with, you know have you ever thought of it


I mean obviously like you know ah pursuing medicine I mean <mandarin>当然:dang ran</mandarin> ah doctor is the first choice lah but, I mean in case if anything really, cannot then, maybe a nurse or something lor I mean can't imagine right


but I guess lor I mean like looking at <mandarin>你看:ni kan</mandarin> lah <mandarin>现在情况这样:xian zai qing kuang zhe yang</mandarin> then <mandarin>那些:na xie</mandarin> frontline workers I mean I have


it's like a very noble aspiration and, to be able to maybe like go in that direction for me ah I think it's quite an, it's quite honour and like really really a dream job for me lor to be able to work in the healthcare sector and stuff like that lah so I mean err as to whether I've been


how to say ah, career my dream maybe not, but hopefully like you know through passion and maybe


hard work through like through A levels lah you know, maybe I can get a straw lor because I mean, like really what hard work and passion will beat, talent when talent fails to work hard, ya I mean you heard of that quote before ah


err, I mean police officer, seems like not bad lah honestly because you know ah, like I said just now


it's all about serving the people lor serving the community the neighbourhood I grew up in the country I lived in, so it's like ya to be able to you know


err how to say ah, contribute back ah ya in that sense, so like speaking of that, err I mean <mandarin>我有想过:wo you xiang guo</mandarin> lah like <mandarin>去做一点:qu zuo yi dian</mandarin> volunteering work, maybe like <mandarin>去做一点:qu zuo yi dian</mandarin> err


err interest or goals like this, err this holiday ah so, ya what about you


ya lah I mean hopefully got got <mandarin>缘:yuan</mandarin> lah hopefully hopefully I would like to think that I have but I mean err, I guess lor just going for the jobs that like <mandarin>跟我:gen wo</mandarin> that align with my principles and my values ah but like, what's your


I wanna ask ah like, what's your priority in the <mandarin>在找工作:zai zhao gong zuo</mandarin> so what's your priority, you know and what are you looking out for is it, like the office environment or the you know ah <mandarin>薪水:xin shui</mandarin> ah


so inspired by ah boys to men ah no lah just kidding, but like (hmm) like I mean like I also heard of a lot of people mah like even though <mandarin>他们对自己的工作不开心:ta men dui zi ji de gong zuo bu kai xin</mandarin> right I mean they still <mandarin>挨:ai</mandarin> through it what and then like even like, high paying job


err, how to say ah high paying job but, err not a good experience in the office but I mean after all like weekends you get to enjoy more than the others also what I mean like would you rather have a, high paying job with a bad office


err, bad internal nature or, or the other way round


err top ranking in stressful environments for workplaces and like honestly right


speaking of like mental health also ah like I feel like, recent news article in <mandarin>早报:zao bao</mandarin> or something, that err like MOH is starting to look out more for


people err mental health in the workplace ah but, err take it very seriously and like consider it as like a as severe as a, physical illness ah for example so like I mean


err if given a choice ya I mean I agree with you ah I would also, take a lower paying job and like prioritise my <mandarin>自己的幸福:zi ji de xing fu</mandarin> as a, ya put it as as at the forefront lah but


I mean speaking of mental health right I also wouldn't mind going into the, sector of like you know being a psychiatrist or like a psychologist lah because like I feel these are some of the issues that are more pressing within, err this society lah and like not a lot of people really have the courage and like the


you know, err <mandarin>愿意去做加入这种:yuan yi qu zuo jia ru zhe zhong</mandarin> like volunteer to be like you know how to say


how do I say how to put it ah you know like maybe like raise awareness about this kind of issues also ah because, no it's not really, people really need to start taking care of their own mental well being ah and like, stress is like really a huge contributor


especially like you know ah <mandarin>经过那个:jing guo na ge</mandarin> A levels, high stress periods I mean like ya, so ya


then end up you become stressed you got no money you also become stressed so it's like, quite a quite a vicious cycle ah so it's like I mean I just wish like people can like you know


err seek more attention err like pay more attention to their own mental well being rather than money ah because I mean personally I feel, that err, you well being is more happiness is more important than money because money can't buy happiness I'm sure like a lot of people heard that before ah but ya lor I mean that's just one of the principle lor that I believe in


and like you know ah, err !aiya!, ya lor, but I mean speaking of which, uh, ya lah but I mean of of course lah


being able to get into, like medicine is a dream for me so like !aiya! shall not think about it that much also, maybe I just look forward to like I don't know, !aiya! just look forward to my holidays first lor


I mean there's still so much time, ya <mandarin>还有时间:hai you shi jian</mandarin> [ah]


okay so that's alright, hello do you hear me


alright so what are we going to converse today, alright <mandarin>今天要说些什么:jin tian yao shuo xie shen me</mandarin> uh how about yesterday what did we eat


ah, I, ah I see ah anyway we two big boys ah so two servings of rice quite adequate ah


[orh] zermatt Neo the pro eater


ah he eat a lot ah


[orh] he's a competitive eater he always eat the one whole bowl right I always see his uh videos !wah! <mandarin>那个那个部分那个他吃的部分很大:na ge na ge bu fen na ge ta chi de bu fen hen da</mandarin> [orh] <mandarin>吃不完:chi bu wan</mandarin> [orh]


, ya but he's not he's he's he's he's quite young also right he's about twenty eight twenty nine and then you know being so young I guess you have good metabolism ah you can eat more ah <mandarin>应该可以吃个很多的啦:ying gai ke yi chi ge hen duo de la</mandarin> ha


ya but but you see to eat that much right as a competitive eater and then he also probably has to has to workout lah I mean if it it's not healthy right to eat that that big a portion so often


(mmhmm)