I think the #bak chor mee# we had that day was pretty good eh , oh is it my standard <mandarin>太低:tai di</mandarin> Liao, can you like add in some chinese ah I think you are not at ten percent eh


you, you totally forgot no but still even it out lah so there's so whatever system they have you know can , as you don't need like super, I don't know eh


you need to be you need to be slightly more conscious but not too conscious so still subconscious, ya, ya so what's good food you still haven't tell me what's good food we go eat ah


gordon ramsay bread street kitchen good food or not good steak, fifty dollars, ya and maybe plus GST after GST around sixty, plus a bit


but it's a it's probably a, fourteen ounce, big steak lah, err I think for me


or we order two, if you ya lor if not we order two lor then you eat half I eat one lah !huh!, ya you know they when I was in poly right they wanted to bring me go, but I fell sick on my birthday and the day that that we were supposed to go gordon ramsay was there


I mean, ah I didn't know I told you the err I didn't know you cared so much about me that you remember what happened, but okay


ya, I missed a chance, to see the legend himself, , !huh! quite rude


no lah you think he is that free meh he I think he there just to, shake hand shake hand, I think maybe he's there to supervise like you know like


!aiya! at least he is there can take picture with him lah, or maybe he, is it very small actually I'm eh you know what I've never, like seen it lah like


outside, the artscience, artscience museum is the weird weird shape one right the the the the, ya ya a bit like the sydney opera house one


is inspired by that right, is really very similar, egg shell


why you, if everyday activity would be uh eh what everyday activity would be a torture if you had to do it for eight hours straight !wah! I can think of a lot sia


what would not be a torture it should be if you do it for eight hour straight, , ya let's flip the question cause I feel like everything, other than sleeping ya


ya okay same, other than sleeping what else, , !wah! eating, but will get full lah


okay lah not a lot lah let's move on, I'm pretty sure wait ah or how long in how we are seventeen minutes in okay lah not bad lah almost one third already leh


err I think time flew a bit faster while I was playing my game lah but okay, !huh!, I think


I think you you don't really have much of a choice right now yes, yes, okay, so what, so, so what are you gonna eat later


so how about oh you haven't eat, okay okay okay, see now they now they won't know whether it's nice or not since you haven't eat it, now then you make them curious, so they Bo Pian have they have to accept us


so the next time we'll talk about whether it's nice or not yes, err would you rather fight one horse sized otter or hundred otter sized horses


!wah!, true true I just wanna a otter, why you want to fight an otter so cute, , go and play with him now lah


I thought you say you gonna feed him the apple strudel


will die ah, oh


(uh huh), oh no, but it's not for him, so you


you broke his hopes and dreams, how can you tempt the man like that eh is he a man ah, and I'm sitting here you know


okay lor, actually I I took a lot of questions hor actually very short leh, there's only five pages, you sure that's enough content or not okay lah actually I don't know how this works


I think, I really like what about my life do not know you know everything about my life, you are starting school soon


okay so what's your timetable like


, , !huh!


oh, so sad, it is a robot and you talk about COVID so what


robot, oh


you never know


actually was the bidding process ah like I know y'all is need to fight for it one then got one bidding day, so, actually


wait so so is your internet speed the fault lah


oh, okay


!wah! this reminds me of buying sneakers eh like when you buy sneakers hor, got all the very very rare drops also, you lose by two seconds sold out, !wah!, eh you know you know they're bots right you know at least for sneakers right they're bots where


are there bots for like school mods also have right


so is bot VS bot is the oh so exciting no so so means your your one by the two seconds I think everything <mandarin>就没有掉:jiu mei you diao</mandarin> Liao, right


oh oh, oh oh, oh wait then if like that then you just program then you sell to other people ah, oh make friends , see that's why I'm in business


everything also must think how to make money, ya money is the root of all evil right, oh


so if you wait I'm very confused right now, for loving money is bad but having money is good, so if you have money and you don't love money is good, so confused but okay


okay okay you're right you're right


!oi!,


if you were to eat one dish for the rest of your life what would it be !wah! good question, I think for me, !wah!, what !aiya! okay actually you eat anything for more than


ten times also will Sian one eh is like every every time I cook supper hor or I get supper, it's like the first time is like more, breakthrough revelation, then after you eat for like the fifth time like <mandarin>恶心:e xin</mandarin> Liao like remember my


my err eggs with, jam and, peanut butter, it's like it's just mcgriddles is like <mandarin>甜:tian</mandarin> and <mandarin>咸:xian</mandarin> is actually good together it's like fries and ice cream


you got,


ya is cold and hard and crispy you got see the err err jimmy one two three four five the story, jess ah, oh she she got fries and ice cream then she dipped then she ask !yay! or nay got almost seventy percent say !yay! so like more than seventy percent of that people with me on this


I try very hard ah eh so what would you eat


must be, !huh! it's not even that good


I feel like there's not enough taste eh, for the, #wok hei#, ya, you want to know what ingredients are inside or not literally


they just put, exactly just, can you stop cutting off when I'm talking ah they say cannot cut off eh, you hor very impatient leh


bye bye,


actually hor <mandarin>有一个:you yi ge</mandarin> pause <mandarin>还有一个:hai you yi ge</mandarin> tick so <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> record <mandarin>完我:wan wo</mandarin> press pause <mandarin>还是:hai shi</mandarin> press tick ah, tick ah, like something go wrong like that app crash or something !wah!


it'll be fine, so what will be the dish, okay


!aiyo! but you have the, wait but they never say whether you need to pay for it, ya lah convo starters so so I'm trying to derive something more


if you get a chance to wake up as an actor one day


which actor would you wanna become and why


we should move on, or celebrity


eh <mandarin>你够:ni gou</mandarin> Liao <mandarin>我不是:wo bu shi</mandarin> celeb


right, can you be a bit more serious like legit celeb


okay, eh <mandarin>我可以唱歌吗:wo ke yi chang ge ma</mandarin> !huh!, then <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> rap <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> rap ah


oh that's your stomach very loud eh, it is is like, is super loud ya okay you are actually


you know you can eat right, you can, !huh! ae strudel no lah


nobody to ask you do, okay okay, sure


what is the pettiest reason that you would dislike someone, !wah! ya lor you so petty, joking, ya why your stomach keeps growling ah


you really hungry ah why why why didn't you, what did you eat before you do this, oh I took a shower, can you tell that I'm wearing a hairband right now


I am eh it's so cool, and I look like I wax my hair right, no just now no volume now now I keep doing this then got some volume


!wah! !wah!


do you know that song, chinese pop culture the <mandarin>白痴:bai chi</mandarin> eh


eh come on I'm I'm right, I'm just saying, is a <mandarin>张惠妹:zhang hui mei</mandarin> song, you know who is that


, no, let me check for you which year was it, released, (hmm)


!aiyo!, I thought you'll say something while I check eh I thought that's how it works


era <mandarin>是什么意思:shi shen me yi si</mandarin> how okay actually ya this is a very good question I I at least I feel like lah when you say it's someone's era how old were they in their era now is still his era he still


, okay, okay when you say it's someone's era how old were they, during that their era


oh I I always thought that listening to music could be like a lifelong thing like what, so it doesn't listen to music anymore, oh


oh, but she <mandarin>现在还红:xian zai hai hong</mandarin> what so, !huh!, is a guy


, can you not tell, I said she, okay you know what let them decide, ya is recorded what time is it or it's a


thirty seven okay around thirty seven later we play back and see, who's right, now proof eh, ya admitted


don't you see ah now you scared, [orh] now you blame earpiece then you blame my articulation, okay


oh this one okay this one, okay you know what maybe not this one, ya lor what time will we end, err, later


later we tell him, asking asking you ah, [orh], probably wanting to talk to, eh cannot this is too personal you cannot say this kind of thing


which janice, , okay, okay


oh no it's it's not I think it's cause she scratches eh sand flies is, you scratch hor then you, the pus will come out then it will look like is infected, it's probably just, cause the thing about sand flies


and mosquitoes ya ya right, the, is that hor sand flies, as in, you will stay for a week, around a week but it'll be it'll be err itchy throughout


!wah! true,


oh no eh but, !huh!


cause you, cause you just open your window like that I have never, can you, can you wait for me to finish speaking before cutting in or not


you wait one second lah


eh, like like we, err, talk to each other, but we keep changing subject every single line do you think it'll mess up their system like I ask you what you eat then you say oh the weather very good then you ask you ask me like what do you think will happen I very curious


, [orh] <mandarin>是这样的:shi zhe yang de</mandarin> ah okay okay <mandarin>我明白:wo ming bai</mandarin> Liao <mandarin>其实我也是觉得他很帅:qi shi wo ye shi jue de ta hen shuai</mandarin> ah, okay okay okay <mandarin>算了算了:suan le suan le</mandarin>


, okay I won't try, you know how the saying goes


when you fail, try try, ya, ya


, no it's just I watched the whole series like, once with mister lee, twice, after then I not say recently lah, you have more more probably more than probably more than twice


eh, oh, don't learn what, I watch a lot of things three times for entertainment eh


, you know like sometimes before you start watching a new movie you will feel like, then you you rather watch something they you watch before then I don't I don't like the


sometimes I don't like the feeling like when you're watching something hor thing you know something bad it's gonna happen then, then your heart is very, you is too much for me to handle so I don't


no lah I was pretty fine eh, no matter how good is


but I thought they say second time you will catch a lot of more details that you never watch the first one then you


I remember, I remember last time when I was, when it like wifi no not wifi like four G wasn't that much of a thing yet, I had this video player only had three movies inside, that's all I did on saturday or sunday so like on the way okay I had this lesson drum lesson then I have to take this bus right


like, one hour one a half hour home then on the way there my tuition ends at one, my drum lessons is at four so three hours I'm alone right, all I did was watch that three movies over and over again for like, !wah! one whole year


but I enjoy eh that's the saddest part, I know right you want to guess the three movies, just guess


no, action action lor, no okay lah tell you lah you probably won't guess it it's avatar the blue monkey one


the karate kid, the the you know where is the the wild one, ya the jaden smith one, and then


and the third one is what lah, ya I forgot the title of it eh, !aiya! I need to go , how to reverse search for it ah got tom cruise one but I don't think is mission impossible


ya ya ya ya ya the plot is stay, they went to


ya ya how to say ah, he can he keep resetting the day, but <mandarin>很好看:hen hao kan</mandarin> though, they were good movies ah at least the tom cruise one


what is it called ah, okay I shall go and search,


edge of tomorrow, eh, but is two O one four leh okay then maybe it's not that one, okay I forgot or maybe there were just two movies, , wait two O one how old was I


two O one, now is what ah two O two zero right, ah, !wah! your math pretty CMI eh, ten minus four is what, two thousand fourteen


!aiyo!, , you ya lah you you literally you've been a complainer since I've known you eh you from I'm very tired now I very hungry you next time what


!aiya!, actually you today also keep saying you very very tired, okay lah I I honestly think you are just a very expressive person you're eh


and you express yourself through words, I'm trying to conclude why you keep exclaiming what you feel


I don't think so, when since when no no I don't I very I do that very, I don't remember doing that


no no I really don't do that, like if I do I'm not ashamed but I don't don't recall myself saying, oh I damn tired


probably like once a day only I I there's no way I'll say that twice, you you're, you're so okay okay okay it's not a bad thing it's not a bad thing I'm just saying like, with the face say more than me


for them to know, the flaws of you ah


that you are hungry probably like probably like four, I I think we should stop saying they, if it's for the we're supposed to have a normal conversation, well we only mentioned that like two three times not that bad


pretty sure, okay I don't get how, like these things work, (uh huh), like I don't give you enough already hello


I ask you to go eat your ae strudel, ya what you think what I I, ya there's no, there's no immediate action what


you tired then you need to sleep, [orh] okay,


!wow!, you imagine if I bail out now it's already fifty minutes


, so what are we going to talk for the last nine minutes, actually I wanna do a would you rather but I don't know whether it's allowed so maybe next time we can


we can ask, if there's a next time, , !huh! !huh!, eh even when your brain can you still cannot do like


, it's like your, your math is good but your mental sums is, CMI cannot make it


okay, !aiyo!, I still have the yankee candle you gave me, midsummer's night


for the last few, I scared not enough but I think you ten percent right


oh ya maybe, err not really is headache okay, I said, I think headache got a lot of kinds what, I ask you eat panadol lah <mandarin>去吃:qu chi</mandarin> panadol, right


oh immune to it, this


the mum just now just now err when you left the the call already, he he said err he having headache than the mum say, oh headache must press then the lump


it's the truth meh, so all headaches are like that lah, , but chinese okay lah not trying to say chinese medicine not legit but


I don't know, (uh huh)


from the roots


!wah! you just, what if there's no lump, okay what if what if it's migraine


sounds very scary


I don't even know what is called I don't know how to <mandarin>刮痧:gua sha</mandarin> what is what


oh ya,


, okay <mandarin>你马上就可以吃你的:ni ma shang jiu ke yi chi ni de</mandarin> apple strudel Liao, no but actually hor should I eat also ah, no


Siao what time already, don't want, pixelated, but I hear you just fine


err no that day was because, no that day was because of the, wifi


but my house wifi is the legit eh, they just updated upgraded, as in the men just came and put the thing in, ya


no, what, , (mmhmm)


err if it explodes I don't think he needs to be kicked out everyone is kicked out by the explosion, that is not good, I, think so ya


!wah!, , wait so how badly chewed up is it got like live wire sticking out ah or what


half ah, but the rubber quite thick one what no meh


, !wah!, how to cover it ah this kind of thing, this kind of thing <mandarin>很难:hen nan</mandarin> cover hor <mandarin>因为:yin wei</mandarin> if you tried to cover you still why you keep cutting me off one !aiyo!


!aiyo! then how ah like that, !aiyo! then next time we !aiyo! if there's a next time we do it face to face, but then, I scared face to face then your audio will pick up my audio


!huh! what, okay true true true okay


oh ya that's what the clap is for, oh Siao Liao, at this time, then ten seconds left, any last words


other than you love me, I, time's up <mandarin>了不要讲:le bu yao jiang</mandarin> Liao, we can stop right


is just save it right, err okay they never say must one hour though, it's between the time switching to my line


I did mine


and of course [lah] okay, so press tick [ah], tick tick


, err quite


Sian everything is all different have to change, depressed <mandarin>不要那么:bu yao na me</mandarin> upset lor so <mandarin>还是要照做:hai shi yao zhao zuo</mandarin> have to always keep


you know thinking of, new ways to motivate myself especially at home so what have you been doing at home


so <mandarin>你在读什么书:ni zai du shen me shu</mandarin> what are you reading what interesting topics


!wow! <mandarin>很深奥:hen shen ao</mandarin> but I think must be really interesting if not you won't pick it up to read right


uh like you I suddenly have a lot of time, but because I have kids at home <mandarin>那个大的小的都在家不是:na ge da de xiao de dou zai jia bu shi</mandarin> home based learning <mandarin>就是一直跑去厨房间我帮他们煮东西吃:jiu shi yi zhi pao qu chu fang jian wo bang ta men zhu dong xi chi</mandarin> so apart from work and working from home


not different areas lah different interesting ways I can do things without some ingredients how about you what do you like to cook


err <mandarin>我的是:wo de shi</mandarin> cookies <mandarin>因为两个小孩子一直很喜欢吃那个:yin wei liang ge xiao hai zi yi zhi hen xi huan chi na ge</mandarin> cookie so <mandarin>我们做:wo men zuo</mandarin> coffee cookie <mandarin>很多东西要:hen duo dong xi yao</mandarin> raisin oatmeal <mandarin>不一样的饼干:bu yi yang de bing gan</mandarin> then <mandarin>他们喜欢吃的那个:ta men xi huan chi de na ge</mandarin> err spaghetti


hungry ghosts at my house <mandarin>一直要吃吃吃:yi zhi yao chi chi chi</mandarin> <mandarin>所以真的起初:suo yi zhen de qi chu</mandarin> first two three weeks was very, very tiring because you have to work then you have to cook then you have to clean yeah


got the real good good time to just sit and do all my readings and finished up all my readings how about you


so it's actually quite good COVID nineteen make us have time to do things


err <mandarin>很多:hen duo</mandarin> youths <mandarin>跟他们的家长:gen ta men de jia zhang</mandarin> so during this period of time my cert my coaching sessions I have more but <mandarin>跟你讲的一样:gen ni jiang de yi yang</mandarin> lor


charged <mandarin>那么高:na me gao</mandarin> then <mandarin>其他人都不能付那笔钱:qi ta ren dou bu neng fu na bi qian</mandarin> so you're right lor <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> financial, stability <mandarin>跟那个:gen na ge</mandarin> financial comfortable-ness hor <mandarin>那种要要达到一个基础先:na zhong yao yao da dao yi ge ji chu xian</mandarin> lor before <mandarin>他们可以:ta men ke yi</mandarin> enjoy <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> circuit breaker


(hmm)


okay


oh, eh <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> not bad leh, but <mandarin>我是我只是在看:wo shi wo zhi shi zai kan</mandarin> Netflix , so <mandarin>很多东西:hen duo dong xi</mandarin> on on TV <mandarin>很多:hen duo</mandarin> Netflix <mandarin>的那些:de nei xie</mandarin> series, so <mandarin>我看到一个:wo kan dao yi ge</mandarin> series <mandarin>叫做蛮旧的:jiao zuo man jiu de</mandarin> series ah it's a quite a old series <mandarin>好像那个叫做:hao xiang na ge jiao zuo</mandarin> black mirror <mandarin>你有没有听到:ni you mei you ting dao</mandarin> black <mandarin>听过:ting guo</mandarin> black mirror


eh <mandarin>你应该看:ni ying gai kan</mandarin> eh <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> black mirror talks about what, actually happens when technology takes over so <mandarin>有一次好像一个人:you yi ci hao xiang yi ge ren</mandarin> err <mandarin>你知道我们:ni zhi dao wo men</mandarin> social media <mandarin>对吗:dui ma</mandarin> so Instagram lah Facebook all the likes all the comments all the giving of star rating


so your whole life whatever you do <mandarin>好像你:hao xiang ni</mandarin> err order food Grab <mandarin>什么东西他们都会有一个:shen me dong xi ta men dou hui you yi ge</mandarin> rating <mandarin>所以你要一直:suo yi ni yao yi zhi</mandarin> rate <mandarin>人家人家一直:ren jia ren jia yi zhi</mandarin> rate <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> then err


in school and society <mandarin>他们:ta men</mandarin> interview <mandarin>你的时候什么东西他们都一直要看你的:ni de shi hou shen me dong xi ta men dou yi zhi yao kan ni de</mandarin> ratings so if you're good rating you will be selected if you are not good rating then you're not selected so this


brings up a different kind of social phenomenon in people


are of different cultures and different things because you are not the same so it brings a lot of you know a lot of social dimension to how we all work with things and how we perceive things in new age yeah so <mandarin>你应该看:ni ying gai kan</mandarin> eh


you know during this time then when I deliver to you then you give me a rating so you gave me a rating then when I give you a rating back as a customer then you'll get a rating so your rating is accumulation of everything that you do then if you <mandarin>叫:jiao</mandarin> Grab taxi <mandarin>还是什么:hai shi shen me</mandarin> Grab <mandarin>还是什么:hai shi shen me</mandarin> then they will give you rating you will give back the rating and give back comment


then if your social media posts <mandarin>你有怎么样的:ni you zen me yang de</mandarin> ah how you say if you pass a particular likes or something then <mandarin>他们就会给你不一样的:ta men jiu hui gei ni bu yi yang de</mandarin> rating,


yeah it's very scary, yeah so you know we all don't think about social media in this way now but we are doing it, and black mirror the <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> show right this TV show really got me thinking about a lot of things that we do so this is one episode there's another episode right that talks about a person being able to click images


use it with their eyes so <mandarin>好像:hao xiang</mandarin> <mandarin>我去:wo qu</mandarin> holiday <mandarin>还是什么:hai shi shen me</mandarin> then I click images those are all stored in my memory, then <mandarin>好像:hao xiang</mandarin> like which is good for studying ah so you have a photographic memory <mandarin>你可以:ni ke yi</mandarin> recall things and you can


very quickly <mandarin>你去你的:ni qu ni de</mandarin> brain <mandarin>的那个:de na ge</mandarin> archive ah <mandarin>就去找:jiu qu zhao</mandarin> oh <mandarin>如果我要读这个书:ru guo wo yao du zhe ge shu</mandarin> err if I'm going for this exam or whatever I can go to see you know where it is that I stored <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> picture <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> memory <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> info then <mandarin>我去:wo qu</mandarin> retrieve it


it also again talks about our need to <mandarin>一直拍照好像我们每次吃饭就拍照煮饭拍照去哪里拍照:yi zhi pai zhao hao xiang wo men mei ci chi fan jiu pai zhao zhu fan pai zhao qu na li pai zhao</mandarin> so again it's it brings to a lot of thinking then I like


watching all these cause err me and my husband we will talk about you know how the world is now lor, worried about our you know our own ratings or when people or when we want to order something from people then we will read all the ratings what so <mandarin>也是一样呢我们就一直要看人家的:ye shi yi yang ne wo men jiu yi zhi yao kan ren jia de</mandarin> rating before we decide whether we want to do something then also for us you know whatever that's put onto Instagram <mandarin>我们也是要看人家怎么拍照怎么做那个:wo men ye shi yao kan ren jia zen me pai zhao zen me zuo na ge</mandarin> photo composition <mandarin>怎么:zen me</mandarin> create memories


then <mandarin>那个女的就:na ge nv de jiu</mandarin> ah had an affair with one of the friends, and you know when you're you know have affair or whatever right you, your brains automatically record certain memories <mandarin>所以他也是:suo yi ta ye shi</mandarin> recorded


err the memory or the picture of what happened with the guy she was having an affair, so <mandarin>那个老公回来时候就觉得有点怪怪:na ge lao gong hui lai shi hou jiu jue de you dian guai guai</mandarin> then decide to ask her then when she shared that oh something actually happen, then she kept say nothing nothing is a it's no one important you know no one that means anything to me


but <mandarin>老公:lao gong</mandarin> did not believe so the husband actually hacked into her system to retrieve that memory so <mandarin>好像你讲的:hao xiang ni jiang de</mandarin> lor it can be used for good as well as for evil, and I think that show ended off that the both of them you know <mandarin>离婚:li hun</mandarin> lor and separated because of that


so again, then this whole black mirror thing is that a mirror has two sides so it can show reflection how you show <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> reflection <mandarin>好的坏的是真的:hao de huai de shi zhen de</mandarin> up to the person that is looking in a mirror


so and <mandarin>他们用那个:ta men yong na ge</mandarin> word black right black is talking about things, mirror of course is good lah you can see the beauty but if you put yourself and see the ugly side then it would be reflecting <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> ugly side lor


I think it is lor so it's a good and bad show but I think <mandarin>他们就:ta men jiu</mandarin> after one season <mandarin>他们就没有了:ta men jiu mei you le</mandarin> leh, so I think this one <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> show, I had a lot of flak a lot of people <mandarin>很多人都讲很多不一样的:hen duo ren dou jiang hen duo bu yi yang de</mandarin> comments <mandarin>跟:gen</mandarin> feedback


so it's a very controversial show, (hmm) but <mandarin>我很喜欢这种:wo hen xi huan zhe zhong</mandarin> show lah cause, it really creates a lot of thinking, then <mandarin>也是:ye shi</mandarin> makes us really think of things that we take for granted and then if


a lot of consequences that we have to face, so <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> likes <mandarin>的那个:de na ge</mandarin> right they ended up because of a series of bad events that happened to a particular person


then she was late meeting err the taxi driver so the taxi driver gave her very bad rating then she, got herself drunk in her friend's err hen party and then she couldn't wake up so her friend was very upset with her as a friend


so <mandarin>真的那个也是:zhen de na ge ye shi</mandarin> this this two episodes really got me thinking about a lot of things ah (hmm)


yeah lor


(hmm), what show is this called ah


okay yeah


put in a lot of shows put in a lot of err TV series <mandarin>都上网:dou shang wang</mandarin> so I think Netflix got a lot of movies they also got a lot of shows that was very very different yeah


okay so uh apart from that what else did you actually do during <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> circuit breaker


oh okay, (hmm)


national day is happening so all these airplanes are all flying around yeah


can you hear it from your house also, okay I hope <mandarin>这个我还:zhe ge wo hai</mandarin> okay at least we know that we are in the one week before national day the recording


okay so <mandarin>你怎么知道这个:ni zen me zhi dao zhe ge</mandarin> initiative <mandarin>的是不是你的朋友:de shi bu shi ni de peng you</mandarin> join and then you all decide all join together or what


okay <mandarin>因为:yin wei</mandarin> err, I belong to a church so and you also know that <mandarin>我刚刚:wo gang gang</mandarin> share lah that <mandarin>我是一个:wo shi yi ge</mandarin> coach <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> during this whole period of time


(hmm) you seem quite well adjusted to working studying everything at home, and I think your place is also all okay so <mandarin>全部都:quan bu dou</mandarin> okay <mandarin>没有问题:mei you wen ti</mandarin> but when <mandarin>有一些:you yi xie</mandarin> teens <mandarin>或者:huo zhe</mandarin> youth


and there's a lot of tension at home so for me I I offered my pro bono services to <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> church so a lot of things we are trying to get the youths like you more involved lor so we have the it's raining raincoats that they helped the migrant workers that we pair teens with other like you say mentors but I would say it's older people err in the


society then they all go and help together so in the past it was to just how you say Zoom call with other people and then sing them a song or teach them something over online and that's their volunteer work


rather than you all do face to face but, it helps them break the monotony lor <mandarin>在家一直:zai jia yi zhi</mandarin> you know err study or see their parents and then they're irritated so this is a good initiative that they have so I'm very happy that <mandarin>你也是有一个:ni ye shi you yi ge</mandarin> initiative <mandarin>在一直帮助其他人:zai yi zhi bang zhu qi ta ren</mandarin> during this time


(hmm) <mandarin>那个蛮伟大:na ge man wei da</mandarin> lor at least <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> during this whole period


adapt change involved so <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> in NLP terms <mandarin>是叫做:shi jiao zuo</mandarin> pivoting


your mentor introduce this and then <mandarin>你也是要讲:ni ye shi yao jiang</mandarin> okay I'll go help or okay I'll try something out


a lot of people will say oh I don't want try because


make something really really different lor in your life this year so, will you say that your life it's very very different compared to last couple of years when you're just studying and living life as normal lor


I totally agree, yeah so, what do you think you will do when you COVID when we go into phase three


(hmm) I think the change would be


then it gives you a different perspective to what we have been using our time and family suddenly became a lot more important because we suddenly have a lot of time with them and you're right we have


so it, COVID nineteen <mandarin>真的:zhen de</mandarin> gives me a very very very different perspective of how I want to continue living my life and what I want to do and help people and in the past <mandarin>我还以为我这个:wo hai yi wei wo zhe ge</mandarin> coaching <mandarin>只是:zhi shi</mandarin> another job


but the importance of coaching and how it helps people reframed <mandarin>他们那个:ta men na ge</mandarin> thinking <mandarin>怎么帮助他们:zen me bang zhu ta men</mandarin> how do even err gel families together actually give me, you know that motivation to continue studying because I'm really quite old already I'm forty plus right forty five and <mandarin>突然想哦要回去读书:tu ran xiang o yao hui qu du shu</mandarin> so I started doing my NLP last year then this year decide to do crazy thing stuff like <mandarin>读我的这个:du wo de zhe ge</mandarin> masters so <mandarin>读书读得真的很惨:du shu du de zhen de hen can</mandarin> <mandarin>我不知道:wo bu zhi dao</mandarin> I don't know how you all the young kids all start studying last time I also don't know how I did that last time but


studying is difficult, essential classes so <mandarin>那些:nei xie</mandarin> essential classes <mandarin>你要:ni yao</mandarin> attend hor <mandarin>你是:ni shi</mandarin> on all the time that any you got to make notes revise your notes


and for me now I cannot graduate because I we all need to fly and do that exam and because coaching <mandarin>是很多次是:shi hen duo ci shi</mandarin> one on one


that I took for granted cause we already all plan everything for rest of this year so end of the year I supposed to graduate but <mandarin>现在不可以:xian zai bu ke yi</mandarin> graduate lor have to wait until next year and everything but I realise that


this is necessary if I really want to get my certification and if I really wanted to help people, so if I go to schools and everything everybody keeps asking do you have that cert, so I say yeah have NLP I have ICI but I don't have masters


so, okay so I started writing a book about how


then <mandarin>很多人都很多他们有几个小孩子:hen duo ren dou hen duo ta men you ji ge xiao hai zi</mandarin> so <mandarin>怎么:zen me</mandarin> support <mandarin>那个小孩子怎么把它们供养:na ge xiao hai zi zen me ba ta men gong yang</mandarin> like , what will happen to education and then a lot of families the parents especially they don't the how to communicate lah so


a lot of them think that as parents cannot show their weakness then cannot show their kids that they don't have things in control so things will not be the same even after we come out of phase three, and I don't think <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> economy <mandarin>会突然很好:hui tu ran hen hao</mandarin> so <mandarin>很多很多:hen duo hen duo</mandarin> job seekers will still you know look you know take some time to look for jobs


will you feel that you don't have a job or you're worried that you can't get a job to survive next time


I think, you're asking me whether my job is different if I see it as in a different perspective and I tell you it's hundred percent right because err I've been working with


teens ever since <mandarin>我十六岁:wo shi liu sui</mandarin> so <mandarin>从十六岁不是教他们补习就是在教堂里教他们那个:cong shi liu sui bu shi jiao ta men bu xi jiu shi zai jiao tang li jiao ta men na ge</mandarin> bible study <mandarin>什么东西:shen me dong xi</mandarin> so <mandarin>到现在我还是在教十六岁的小孩子:dao xian zai wo hai shi zai jiao shi liu sui de xiao hai zi</mandarin> in in church so for bible study in a religious education wise then <mandarin>我是觉得他们:wo shi jue de ta men</mandarin> during this time cause of <mandarin>我的这个:wo de zhe ge</mandarin> training in NLP as a coach


err they have to be mentally strong <mandarin>因为如果他们不:yin wei ru guo ta men bu</mandarin> mentally strong and emotionally strong <mandarin>的话那两个方面:de hua na liang ge fang mian</mandarin> so the two pillars of this whole structure of a human body <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> mental <mandarin>跟那个:gen na ge</mandarin> emotional <mandarin>如果你发现到:ru guo ni fa xian dao</mandarin> you are stressed <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> mental thing become


so <mandarin>我的:wo de</mandarin> training <mandarin>现在:xian zai</mandarin> I started you know creating webinars for parents and helping parents also to understand that they need to share what they're feeling because as a family the whole group needs to be sharing so <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> you know


COVID nineteen gave me different perspective of what I'm doing it also and as a result <mandarin>你就问:ni jiu wen</mandarin> is it making me feel more fulfilled yes I feel more fulfilled that this is why I decide to do because I gave up ah I gave up twenty how many years ah twenty two years in media research to do this and


it's something <mandarin>我已经想了很久我真的要跟那个:wo yi jing xiang le hen jiu wo zhen de yao gen na ge</mandarin> youths interact I really want to help youths but this gives me new purpose lah, but it's just <mandarin>现在真的:xian zai zhen de</mandarin> I cannot charge the fee that I really want to charge because <mandarin>没有人可以付付得了那个:mei you ren ke yi fu fu de liao na ge</mandarin> fee on good days yes you know err those better to do families yes but not the ones that really need help so


I've also decided like I told you lor about <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> fee <mandarin>就:jiu</mandarin> charge minimal and to help people and then when all these is over then I'll go back to normal fee so it's a lot of changes a lot of thinking a lot of pivoting <mandarin>一直改变一直:yi zhi gai bian yi zhi</mandarin> adapt


and I enjoy what I'm doing but it was also quite sad to hear you know youths I think you are you are okay you're JC I have one poly student <mandarin>真的:zhen de</mandarin> struggling in a family and when you're struggling family working with all you know all your err


in a home based learning everything a lot of things have to change she she didn't feel that she had control and you know she started having suicidal thoughts and started feeling depressed so it's also one thing that you know I'm helping people but it's also quite sad because I see how destructive a human being can be lor (hmm)


yeah, so <mandarin>有点:you dian</mandarin> deep leh <mandarin>我们的:wo men de</mandarin> conversation , , I didn't want to bring this up but err yeah you ask you ask the right and weird question


so the truth came out, okay how about for you what what did you actually feel about this, COVID nineteen would things be the same what would be different from for you moving forward


(hmm)


(hmm) this is the first year because I every year lah okay so like you like that I am still quite blessed grateful that <mandarin>我老公还有个蛮:wo lao gong hai you ge man</mandarin> stable <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> job


so <mandarin>我们:wo men</mandarin> and because I spend quite a lot last year for all these courses that I'm taking beginning of this year and nearly didn't do and graduate from ICF cause err it was my last trip to Bangkok for my exam so <mandarin>现在:xian zai</mandarin> everything's all stuck it's the first I will just thinking this kind of thing err this is the first year


as a whole family <mandarin>我们都没有出国:wo men dou mei you chu guo</mandarin> leh in june we always take a small break or even when the kids were doing major exams err we will still take <mandarin>一个小小那个:yi ge xiao xiao na ge</mandarin> family get-away get ourselves you know refresh


everybody cannot do that and you are right my older my older son is err doing his Olevels and as a


CCA <mandarin>他们其实:ta men qi shi</mandarin> end of the year <mandarin>要出国:yao chu guo</mandarin> as a part of a CCA initiative for them do something and whether you call it competition <mandarin>还是:hai shi</mandarin> to help the , you know the their affiliate in Indonesia <mandarin>今年他们都不可以去了:jin nian ta men dou bu ke yi qu le</mandarin> and he's just feeling quite sad that this is the last year with his whole bunch of friends some of them <mandarin>已经他认识十多十年:yi jing ta ren shi shi duo shi nian</mandarin> err some of them even eh wait ah there are a few of them two of them even from kindergarten time


so <mandarin>十多年:shi duo nian</mandarin> err most of them ten years then most of them <mandarin>要不然就是四年:yao bu ran jiu shi si nian</mandarin> in err in Olevels err in secondary school so, like you said lor this is gonna be a memorable year that


everybody <mandarin>真的会记住发生所有的东西:zhen de hui ji zhu fa sheng suo you de dong xi</mandarin> lor everything that affected them will all be, you know err remembered because everything all our plans change and it feels that if we don't cherish whatever we have err it can just be easily taken away


do you really think that there's a vaccine that will be coming out


okay <mandarin>因为我妹妹在:yin wei wo mei mei zai</mandarin> NUH <mandarin>他在:ta zai</mandarin> NUH <mandarin>做工他是:zuo gong ta shi</mandarin> err but <mandarin>他是做那个:ta shi zuo na ge</mandarin> admin and taking care of all the new doctors so all the doctors who are still doing their housemanship and everything as well as <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> surgeons <mandarin>所以他讲:suo yi ta jiang</mandarin> there was this course that quickly very quickly came up and some of the doctors and nurses all went over there to help


with COVID nineteen and it's not very easy because even when they help with COVID nineteen right <mandarin>他们发现到:ta men fa xian dao</mandarin> <mandarin>她每次都是:ta mei ci dou shi</mandarin> test <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> virus <mandarin>的时候:de shi hou</mandarin> it seems to be working for that period so if I find something that works


uh and we've been working with a virus that was three weeks old, ah ago right then <mandarin>他们现在的那个:ta men xian zai de na ge</mandarin> vaccine <mandarin>可能不能:ke neng bu neng</mandarin> address <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> current <mandarin>的一个:de yi ge</mandarin> issue, so <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> virus actually mutates it actually evolves so now you see all the you know all the ah


cases right there are all mild they're not the really really bad ones that <mandarin>我们:wo men</mandarin> you know when we first found out and everything so it's also different how you know everything will actually work in this case and this scenario lor


ah <mandarin>我们的:wo men de</mandarin> lifestyle <mandarin>或者什么:huo zhe shen me</mandarin> but <mandarin>我是在想为什么那个台湾他们的那个:wo shi zai xiang wei shen me na ge tai wan ta men de na ge</mandarin> infection <mandarin>那么低:na me di</mandarin> and everything else like that, yeah


(hmm) even <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> US also it's also very different


and if you go by density and everything, did quite a good job at controlling it leh it's just the numbers look quite, big you know in relation to other numbers as being reported but


so what is it that so different and


get everybody altogether and do the vaccine together, so that's my question ah <mandarin>为什么:wei shen me</mandarin> why it actually happened like that yeah


yeah then why is everybody so selfish because, there's no country eh even in the deepest part of Africa or whatever there's no country not affected by COVID nineteen


you know <mandarin>都:dou</mandarin> benefit from this whole thing lah <mandarin>只是一个国家做一个国家做:zhi shi yi ge guo jia zuo yi ge guo jia zuo</mandarin> then everybody


you know you just spend a lot of resources thinking of how to help yeah


I don't think it's for a better good eh because you think ah if if some people country A B C found the vaccine right then they vaccinate everybody so everybody A B C all <mandarin>全部:quan bu</mandarin> okay but


A B C <mandarin>的人会飞去其他国家:de ren hui fei qu qi ta guo jia</mandarin> E F G <mandarin>他飞去:ta fei qu</mandarin> country E F G right then they get it from there and then come back and infect us again so, yeah like you say lor it's


it's maybe like black mirror we can even have a real black mirror here right, it's


either for work for play <mandarin>旅行:lv xing</mandarin> everything how is it going to help, so the other day I was talking to one of my close girlfriend right and we were thinking that, even if all this happens already we're thinking twice whether we should even go like you know all the girls right sometimes you want to go Bangkok just for a massage a shopping trip long weekend and then a mummies get away will do that right then now we're thinking maybe we shouldn't go because we don't know what we will bring back to our families


and now and we are just only go there and then if we happen to go for massage at a massage place and then the person in front of us get, COVID or whatever right or COVID virus and then we get it and we didn't even go out anywhere except to go, to a massage place or a shopping centre then <mandarin>也是蛮无辜的:ye shi man wu gu de</mandarin> lor


then you go back the virus


like you said lor is it dividing is it divisive, I think in a way yes eh because all of a sudden humans <mandarin>我们都是:wo men dou shi</mandarin> social beings <mandarin>我们应该跟其他的:wo men ying gai gen qi ta de</mandarin> humans interact


now COVID nineteen <mandarin>带过来这里所有我不要跟你好:dai guo lai zhe li suo you wo bu yao gen ni hao</mandarin> so <mandarin>他们是有很多:ta men shi you hen duo</mandarin> racism <mandarin>很多:hen duo</mandarin> you know


preconceived notions about different races different people how they interact so I think we really really need to rethink how we are looking at other people, (hmm), and you know it doesn't mean and the one thing about US I was thinking that


because of your black life matters because of even the pride parade right the recent <mandarin>他们有不是那个:ta men you bu shi na ge</mandarin> pride <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> for err gays and lesbians right, yes I know it's something for them to celebrate and everything but


increase <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> infection and true enough after that one a few days later right all the infection rate all went up


we is suddenly think of that are people really that selfish but on the other hand <mandarin>你可以看到很多人都:ni ke yi kan dao hen duo ren dou</mandarin> come by to support you know to be supportive of how they can , you know help people who really really need essential services you know that they need the support or like some people <mandarin>没有口罩没有那个:mei you kou zhao mei you na ge</mandarin> hand sanitizers <mandarin>没有:mei you</mandarin> you know anything all the personal hygiene <mandarin>的东西:de dong xi</mandarin> then <mandarin>我们就帮:wo men jiu bang</mandarin> but are we really really helping people if


we don't care about anything we just want our views to be heard so, yeah that's all the thinking I went through lor then all these US thing so yeah


what what do you and your friends actually think about this whole situation


you know <mandarin>他们不讲出来:ta men bu jiang chu lai</mandarin> they don't do anything about it yeah not helping society I think that's what you know make them want to take part in all these parades and take part in all these I don't know what do you call that demonstration yeah


(hmm) I agree, !wow! eh today we really talk a lot and we talked a lot about things that really make us, rethink how we view the world and we view ourselves so for you what do you think really changed


what made you change or what changed you this year


never mind I think it's okay, yeah maybe we should record at night, I don't know everywhere is noisy


yeah


okay anyway thank you very much is there anything else we need to do no need right we just end off


yeah okay thank you I will stop recording already


yeah towards the end I think like, , I got more into like I started reading again, and


international relations that kind of thing


it's quite interesting lah you leh


oh


err <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> mainly <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> like


then <mandarin>也是有一些时间去做一些:ye shi you yi xie shi jian qu zuo yi xie</mandarin> extra reading <mandarin>因为:yin wei</mandarin> you like I feel like sometimes you go across something interesting then you


yeah <mandarin>我也是觉得是这样:wo ye shi jue de shi zhe yang</mandarin> like actually my school also very far then like you save a lot on travel time but, of course like <mandarin>他们也是有说:ta men ye shi you shuo</mandarin> like <mandarin>如果:ru guo</mandarin> err, of course you need to be of like financially secure to a certain extent then you can like you know kind of like enjoy circuit breaker more lah <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> like you <mandarin>你真的是有更多时间:ni zhen de shi you geng duo shi jian</mandarin> lor <mandarin>但是我觉得也是有很多人:dan shi wo jue de ye shi you hen duo ren</mandarin> not that fortunate lah


yeah, err, like stream online <mandarin>所以可以看然后而且是免费的所以:suo yi ke yi kan ran hou er qie shi mian fei de suo yi</mandarin> like if got time then I will go Youtube and watch lor


eh oh I think hamilton is on Disney plus then err


yeah, oh


that is very scary, like


really makes you think


!wow!


actually just now when you mention the photo taking, like


I mean, , what people can do with the information is also quite interesting to think about like, of course on the bright side <mandarin>他可以弄:ta ke yi nong</mandarin> like <mandarin>可以用来:ke yi yong lai</mandarin> like


err, you know technological improvements <mandarin>或者:huo zhe</mandarin> like <mandarin>帮助别人但是如果是:bang zhu bie ren dan shi ru guo shi</mandarin> <mandarin>拿来做坏事的话:na lai zuo huai shi de hua</mandarin> then of course the consequences will be more severe


(hmm) !wow! I feel like


like <mandarin>想这些社会的那些问题:xiang zhe xie she hui de nei xie wen ti</mandarin> lah because honestly it seems very far away but you know technology actually progress <mandarin>很快:hen kuai</mandarin> then <mandarin>其实可能这个就是我们的未来:qi shi ke neng zhe ge jiu shi wo men de wei lai</mandarin> lah


yeah


!wah! actually like very, like thought provoking the show, like what I watch on Netflix is


very like you know <mandarin>放松:fang song</mandarin> and like <mandarin>没有那么:mei you na me</mandarin> serious, (hmm)


basically they ride a horse and and then they use on the a bit a bit like, gross lah but like <mandarin>他用那个马羊的头:ta yong na ge ma yang de tou</mandarin> as <mandarin>那个球:na ge qiu</mandarin> then <mandarin>他们在马上:ta men zai ma shang</mandarin> like


<mandarin>抢那个球:qiang na ge qiu</mandarin> it's quite interesting, uh I can't remember leh it's I think it's a new series sia


yeah and actually <mandarin>现在他们要加一个:xian zai ta men yao jia yi ge</mandarin> I I heard on radio <mandarin>他们要加一个东西:ta men yao jia yi ge dong xi</mandarin> for like <mandarin>一个:yi ge</mandarin> category for <mandarin>新加坡所以:xin jia po suo yi</mandarin> like all these you know singaporean movies like


uh ilo milo is it I can't remember the name, but, there are basically more singaporean shows for Netflix lah yeah


but I think <mandarin>现在:xian zai</mandarin> like circuit breaker go to phase two <mandarin>所以更多人可以出去帮忙:suo yi geng duo ren ke yi chu qu bang mang</mandarin> then oh they also have this like food on wheels thing <mandarin>所以他们:suo yi ta men</mandarin> deliver food to


err, oh the parade, !wow!


my house sometimes got lah <mandarin>但是现在今天暂时没有:dan shi xian zai jin tian zan shi mei you</mandarin> , yeah


err


(hmm) yeah


yeah because I think like, I acknowledge that like <mandarin>我的家这里是还:wo de jia zhe li shi hai</mandarin> okay <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> lah like <mandarin>没有很大的问题所以:mei you hen da de wen ti suo yi</mandarin> I think also suddenly free up a lot of time then volunteering has always been something that I wanted to do so <mandarin>刚好有这个时间就去做:gang hao you zhe ge shi jian jiu qu zuo</mandarin> lor


also I think I felt a bit of cabin fever you know like no social interaction <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> yeah just you know try something new go meet more people and like yeah help a bit


you know being like try to help as much as I can


(hmm) of course I think, err like in terms of how I spend my time <mandarin>肯定是有一点不一样:ken ding shi you yi dian bu yi yang</mandarin> because last time I think mainly, I spend my time on studying and CCA <mandarin>但是现在:dan shi xian zai</mandarin> I mean CCA just started lah but the scale also quite small <mandarin>所以我觉得:suo yi wo jue de</mandarin>


as long as you really want to do something you will find a way to like carve time for it


actually I never thought much about it leh because I feel like


even with the vaccine maybe like COVID will become like you know like the flu so <mandarin>可能可能以后:ke neng ke neng yi hou</mandarin> like <mandarin>有一段时间就突然间:you yi duan shi jian jiu tu ran jian</mandarin> like COVID cases <mandarin>更多一点但是:geng duo yi dian dan shi</mandarin> like it's not something very serious because got vaccine but


I think because, especially for <mandarin>那些比较小的小小孩子这些他们:nei xie bi jiao xiao de xiao xiao hai zi zhe xie ta men</mandarin> like they will remember this lah so maybe like in terms of how they see the war or like how they see you know everything come together like maybe <mandarin>他们会觉得像:ta men hui jue de xiang</mandarin>


like maybe it'll help more people be like you know more <mandarin>感恩:gan en</mandarin> for the things that they have because like, like <mandarin>一下子就失去所以要:yi xia zi jiu shi qu suo yi yao</mandarin> like be you know more grateful for what we have


what about you what do you think would change or like will remain the same


err, I'm currently in JC lah so that one not very big concern but I feel like


actually I would like to ask you right because since the pandemic <mandarin>很多人像:hen duo ren xiang</mandarin> mental health <mandarin>方面会有比多的像:fang mian hui you bi duo de xiang</mandarin> like <mandarin>问题或者:wen ti huo zhe</mandarin> like in terms of like interacting with other people like


oh I see, !wow!, yeah lor


(hmm), personally I think COVID help me like it just confirm like how, like <mandarin>意识所以你会知道:yi shi suo yi ni hui zhi dao</mandarin> like oh you know my position now is not bad I can I'm actually like secure enough like I have a strong support system like


I'm still in school so I think like school gives a lot of structure <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> like in that sense like <mandarin>个人来说:ge ren lai shuo</mandarin> like


because of COVID then I see a lot of my friends you know like they they worry because <mandarin>他们父母:ta men fu mu</mandarin> you know because of like the whole economic situation then, they worry about how you know the future will be like and maybe for like those in uni they are graduating into like this market where nobody is hiring


so yeah in terms of like COVID, how it affected me individually <mandarin>他真的是让我意识到:ta zhen de shi rang wo yi shi dao</mandarin> like


whether or not everything will go back to normal <mandarin>我觉得肯定是不会因为:wo jue de ken ding shi bu hui yin wei</mandarin> even if like you know suddenly the <mandarin>经济:jing ji</mandarin> suddenly like very good or you know like there's a vaccine everything is back to normal but I feel that


<mandarin>回回正常他们那个:hui hui zheng chang ta men na ge</mandarin> mental well-being <mandarin>还是会被:hai shi hui bei</mandarin> affected <mandarin>所以可能:suo yi ke neng</mandarin> like, COVID <mandarin>也是有一些:ye shi you yi xie</mandarin> like long term effects that nobody knows quite how it will be like


in the future lah but I think like in terms of more fun stuff definitely looking forward to travelling I really miss it because I mean ah I think like, because of all the travel restrictions in place then <mandarin>我觉得:wo jue de</mandarin> like <mandarin>今年应该是不能出国:jin nian ying gai shi bu neng chu guo</mandarin> because I was supposed to go overseas at the end of this year for a school trip with my friends and I think like you know school trips


like I don't know lah like travelling with friends it's just quite different from family so quite looking forward to that when all the restrictions are lifted


I feel like everything is so like messy because I mean <mandarin>我们都知道:wo men dou zhi dao</mandarin> like <mandarin>很多国家都有他们自己的:hen duo guo jia dou you ta men zi ji de</mandarin> program then it's more of it's like a competition to find a vaccine


I see especially since like the virus affects people differently like I think like the thing about COVID nineteen is it's so ambiguous you know like


<mandarin>会:hui</mandarin> gain immunity <mandarin>然后有一些人没有然后:ran hou you yi xie ren mei you ran hou</mandarin> !aiya! it's just like very very different so I guess in that sense it's very unpredictable <mandarin>然后如果:ran hou ru guo</mandarin> like you said lor even if have vaccine then <mandarin>他可能以后是:ta ke neng yi hou shi</mandarin> like <mandarin>没有没有那个作用:mei you mei you na ge zuo yong</mandarin> lah


(hmm)


in countries like India right they don't really have like, circuit breaker like <mandarin>他们的那个如果有也是没有:ta men de na ge ru guo you ye shi mei you</mandarin> like <mandarin>他们没有:ta men mei you</mandarin> enforced <mandarin>到很:dao hen</mandarin> like you know strict like I went to this LSE talk it's quite interesting <mandarin>因为他们有:yin wei ta men you</mandarin> like <mandarin>博士:bo shi</mandarin> from like


or India also have but like basically different geographical regions <mandarin>然后:ran hou</mandarin> like as we know lah <mandarin>现在这个:xian zai zhe ge</mandarin> situation for different countries <mandarin>是很不一样的所以他们也是有讨论:shi hen bu yi yang de suo yi ta men ye shi you tao lun</mandarin> like <mandarin>为什么:wei shen me</mandarin> say like India you know <mandarin>他们人口这么大但是:ta men ren kou zhe me da dan shi</mandarin> the death rate is a lot lower than countries like Italy


yeah


yeah I think like health care <mandarin>是一个:shi yi ge</mandarin> like you know universal thing


very interesting because I feel like


tendencies lah <mandarin>所以他们就:suo yi ta men jiu</mandarin> like it's like finger pointing you know like oh it's your fault that like it's this country's fault that country's fault but like in the end, I feel like, COVID is either very divisive it can it can be it can make people more divisive or like come together and it seems as though like


suddenly like everyone is like isolating themselves cause <mandarin>他们不想跟其他的人合作:ta men bu xiang gen qi ta de ren he zuo</mandarin> like, of course <mandarin>这些这一些:zhe xie zhe yi xie</mandarin> like COVID nineteen is prevalent because of stuff like globalisation but I think like <mandarin>如果:ru guo</mandarin> globalization <mandarin>利用好的话也是可以带来蛮好的那些东西:li yong hao de hua ye shi ke yi dai lai man hao de nei xie dong xi</mandarin> like


err


yeah and, yeah, I think if you go overseas also <mandarin>很难很难:hen nan hen nan</mandarin> track lah like you cannot be sure the countries is you know tracking everything well enough like


yeah actually


actually personally like I know like <mandarin>这一些:zhe yi xie</mandarin> parade of course <mandarin>他们有他们:ta men you ta men</mandarin> like it's symbolic lah and also like they want to get their message across like you said <mandarin>但是是:dan shi shi</mandarin> like is this really the right time to do it or like is this the only way to do it because


like <mandarin>你也是有说:ni ye shi you shuo</mandarin> lor <mandarin>很多人他们都没有戴口罩:hen duo ren ta men dou mei you dai kou zhao</mandarin> then <mandarin>他们又:ta men you</mandarin> like <mandarin>集中了这么这么靠近:ji zhong le zhe me zhe me kao jin</mandarin> then yeah lor then like, I don't know lah then it really like increase I mean yeah like you need to get your message across but at the expense of health man like <mandarin>如果一个人:ru guo yi ge ren</mandarin> infect then <mandarin>他们整他们整个:ta men zheng ta men zheng ge</mandarin> like parade <mandarin>的人不是:de ren bu shi</mandarin> at risk especially since <mandarin>他们:ta men</mandarin> like you know even if it's outdoors it's still like a risk lah then I think


I don't know maybe maybe err like in this pandemic you shouldn't be like you know out there engaging in like this mass gathering but I think also like <mandarin>美国他们的那一些社会上他们个人的主意也是有一点不一样:mei guo ta men de na yi xie she hui shang ta men ge ren de zhu yi ye shi you yi dian bu yi yang</mandarin> like


they value this kind of like freedom and their like expression and stuff so <mandarin>可能对他们来说这是他们他们:ke neng dui ta men lai shuo zhe shi ta men ta men</mandarin> like <mandarin>个人的权利:ge ren de quan li</mandarin> lah


(hmm) maybe and I think, also like a lot especially like black lives matter like a lot of it is emotions in like it's driven by emotions lah <mandarin>因为:yin wei</mandarin> I mean <mandarin>他们这个种族歧视已经很久了然后突然间有这个事件发生所以可能:ta men zhe ge zhong zu qi shi yi jing hen jiu liao ran hou tu ran jian you zhe ge shi jian fa sheng suo yi ke neng</mandarin> like it's really like the straw that broke the camel's back


but yeah and then like they just <mandarin>利用:li yong</mandarin> this like you know like this collective emotion to like kick start this whole movement, and and then like you know once you get the movement started but you need to keep the momentum going so maybe for a lot of them it's like


the right window is very hard to come by then <mandarin>他们就要:ta men jiu yao</mandarin> like


, I think uh sorry I don't know why there's like the grass mowing


I hope it's not very loud sorry for the person vetting this, yeah


yeah like you know like then like nobody outside


yeah like earlier a bit lah, yeah, upload I think, we'll just upload this one


okay


hello, oh you twenty years old only


but you graduate from from where, (ah) so <mandarin>你在你在等当兵:ni zai ni zai deng dang bing </mandarin> ah


(ah) (ah) but you go for your health check up already, then what's your, ya ya ya what's your what's your PES, oh so you are going uh Tekong lah


ya should be lah !wah!, oh okay okay !wah! I didn't know you so young though , I I I thought you were my age I'm I'm twenty seven uh I'm jian zheng, ya so


I I long time I ORD already lah , yeah so !wah!, twenty ah, so so nowadays what what are you what do you what are you doing now


yeah, (uh huh), correct correct


correct correct, (ah)


(oh),


, (ah), until September


(ah), oh so so <mandarin>你现在整天在家是:ni xian zai zheng tian zai jia shi </mandarin> nothing to do lah, (oo)


(oh) (oh), ya correct correct, ah then then you saw you saw this lah


oh, oh oh so so <mandarin>跟我一样:gen wo yi yang </mandarin> lah same as me same as me, ya ya


just just talk only mah, (oo), so so I I I see that you


oh which is what


ya , (oh), no <mandarin>我以为我以为你讲十一点:wo yi wei wo yi wei ni jiang shi yi dian </mandarin> so <mandarin>我有时间:wo you shi jian </mandarin> mah


ya lah nevermind just nice you lucky you just nice the game end already then I tell my friend nevermind you go and play you go and play you go and play first, so is quite, !huh! ya ya ya no lah I not I not say very Zai one lah, for very long then play one I play quite a lot of games cause


ya so now !wah! damn hard to travel so now the company closed then I find some part time job to do lor, err I give err education to overseas people, like all the the


kind of like the third world country one ah like Vietnam err Philippines, like like educate them about uh financial financial literacy lor, ya but now now cannot go ah


so, everyday ya lah <mandarin>留在家:liu zai jia </mandarin> lor <mandarin>打:da </mandarin> game, !huh!, ya so ya I got I got do some part time job also lah here and there, err the the because of this situation [orh]


I got I give tuition, I give err because okay I graduated from NUS chemistry so I give err math and chem tuition lor o level one


ya like those private private tuition lah, , ya e maths a maths and science, sciences


but how how's your a maths, !wah! good what, but what's your


(oo), so your so your course in in your poly is it got related one or not, to your, !wah!, what what's the cut off point now ah, nine is it nine


l one r four right, four, oh, l one r four ah I cannot remember my l one r four eh too long already <mandarin>太久:tai jiu </mandarin> Liao


oh, , else what oh so so engineer you go engineering so you go aerospace engineering is it


then your your


but quite quite like got the say what people ask you eh <mandarin>你读什么:ni du shen me </mandarin> then <mandarin>你跟他讲:ni gen ta jiang </mandarin> err <mandarin>我读:wo du </mandarin> aerospace engineering !wah! they like !wah! <mandarin>你驾飞机了:ni jia fei jile </mandarin> what


like got the got the say what,


but but <mandarin>好像是赚钱最多的:hao xiangshi zhuan qian zui duo de </mandarin> leh, I think lah I I I not sure but <mandarin>好像是:hao xiang shi </mandarin> lah


(ah), harder maths, (uh huh), yeah


(oo) !wah! quite quite interesting eh aerospace, but I went I went I went JC cause I don't know what to choose so I just I just go JC then after that don't know what to choose so I go uni lor just keep studying


err hard is hard lah as in it's harder than than secondary school confirm but


but !hannor! so JC, okay lah not not,


why you don't want wear uniform, why you don't want to go JC, err, oh NYP <mandarin>你住靠近那里:ni zhu kao jin na li </mandarin> mah


but <mandarin>那有一个:na you yi ge </mandarin> JC what <mandarin>那里不是只有只有:na li bu shi zhi you zhi you </mandarin> Anderson Liao lor, it, (oh) eh but if you got twelve that means you actually <mandarin>可以去:ke yi qu </mandarin> JC <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> what


ah !hannor! I think <mandarin>你比我考得好我的:ni bi wo kao de hao wo de </mandarin> l one r four <mandarin>好像都没有都没有:hao xiang dou mei you dou mei you </mandarin> twelve , ya ya ya but my l one r five is quite high mine was, eighteen I think


but last time last time last time JC twenty and below you confirm can go one lah, why you don't want go JC, all your friends go poly so you just go poly also


uh, oh but you go JC you chinese take one year only leh, (oo)


(uh huh), what then your o level chinese also is fail one


(oo) but I think your oh but yours is your writing chinese is bad lah, your conversation chinese is okay what your mandrin is okay what, [orh] okay ya ya ya okay that's true


, oh yeah but because because if <mandarin>你读不懂你你:ni du bu dong ni ni </mandarin> you cannot write already you cannot right answer already, ya cause you don't you don't even understand what the passage is saying mah


(oo), uh


, pass already !wah!, happy sia , yeah


err, , ya but the chinese is err <mandarin>一年而已:yi nian er yi </mandarin> ah it's not it's not two years it's the same as o level you


normal time ya ya ya true true, oh ya that one I I never I never pass my GP before


only a levels then I pass, ya then, (oo), so but then you you now you excited to go army ah,


, you might you or you might go with the next batch though like the next poly batch I think


correct correct, your official date is September ah correct, , should


after your study after your your official end like you study end right then is err <mandarin>两个月:liang ge yue </mandarin> then you then they'll send you the letter, then the letter will tell you, err or maybe you might receive the letter then tell you is two months later lor


normally the letter the you the day you receive the letter and the day you go army is about is about <mandarin>两个月:liang ge yue </mandarin> lah, (oo), but you excited or not you got you got hear any like rumors or what or not


(ah), but they now they now in they now in NS already is it, oh !wah! wonder what's the but what they do now ah with all the the COVID situation, do you know, or they just oh !huh! then oh okay


!wah! I thought they will have some form of like social distancing measures or what, (ah) okay okay ya make sense


but after that after that you just, heck it ah


(oo), correct correct, but !wah! that one ah if Tekong Kena one case ah, all the all the recruit sure happy one sia


ya but then if if they Kena I think they all cannot come back already, they'll all have to stay there for fourteen days, ya they all confirm Kena quarentine there !wah! damn sad eh actually but I think good is they don't need train lah no need no need do any training or what what what


they just stay there lor, yeah that's true lah you uh you will grow you you'll change quite a lot ah I mean for me personally


I I changed quite a lot also, ya like like you you realize some some, some some things that are that in your life is very uh important, ya then you will you will go and fight for it


something like that one ah, !wah!, NS ah okay the one the very important thing is right you need to be, err open minded


like your army <mandarin>朋友:peng you </mandarin> right is really <mandarin>跟你跟你一起一起:gen ni gen ni yi qi yi qi </mandarin> die one you know, you will go up the mountain they also all all run up the mountain with you that kind [orh], ya so I have quite a lot of army friends they're all we're all very close


is is is is fun lah then some more when you go back to reservice !wah! you see the whole gang all, go back, got then some more reservice very chill one mah so we all like everyday you can steamboat lah and go out eat lah party ah


that kind of thing, ya so it's quite it's quite fun lah I think to me army is is quite a fun experience but the most there's only two types of soldiers they say, uh one is those that like to #chao keng# then in the end , you won't find anything fun about army you will just think that is a chore


like <mandarin>很:hen </mandarin> Sian lor like !wah! Sian <mandarin>又要:you yao </mandarin> book in !wah! Sian <mandarin>又要:you yao </mandarin> book out, like <mandarin>很很无聊:hen hen wu liao </mandarin> like that but then I think if you go in right with a open mind right you get to learn a lot of things, is a is a really is a two years well spent I I feel


yeah, so for me I went to same I was PES B then I went to Tekong, then after that I went to OCS do you do you know what's that, ya so, correct then after that err


when I was finishing my my officer cadet school that that term ah then I I fell down, from training during a training lah then I broke my I tore I tore my ligament, ya then I cannot I cannot continue the course anymore lor then after that they call it OOC lah out of course


so I I OOC due to injury, then after that I went to I transit to do some staff work, then from there, I learn !wah! that one I think I think when I was doing staff work I learned the most


cause all the you know err office they always <mandarin>用那个:yong na ge </mandarin> Microsoft, Microsoft word lah Excel ah Power Point !wah! I go there I've become, I spent seven I think close to a year there, !wah! become some god in in Microsoft now eh because of them cause a lot of things you need to use Microsoft to do mah


then you go and then you really you'll really learn what what, how good Microsoft is lor I mean it's not the best software there but, you can learn a lot of skills lah that will help you in the future, err so, so it's quite it's quite fun lah then you can make new friends also


it's a it's a very fun I mean it's a very fun fun fun experience for me, just need to <mandarin>看开:kan kai </mandarin> only


funnyah, funny ah let me think first ah, I don't have uh funny ah !wah!, have, have got funny one lah we got we got play with err smoke grenades


so, basic okay that was before you know you know got one incident the guy die because of smoke grenade one


uh when is poisonous mah so what we do what what we like to do is, err we will, that time we were all we all very tired from we all in the jungle for days already I think I think two or three days lah outfield


so we all very Sian so they got this kind of training shed, you know you know those east coast park and you see got shelter one with all the chair, ya ya ya so got that kind of thing ah, then after that got the got that kind of shelter then we like !wah!, damn tired eh then we all Chiong there right cause now break mah so we all Chiong there right !wah! then we all fall asleep there one whole one whole err gang over there sleeping then our our sir saw us sleeping then he straight away just <mandarin>丢一个一个:diu yi ge yi ge </mandarin> smoke grenade <mandarin>进去:jin qu </mandarin> !oi! !oi! !oi! wake up then !wah! !wah! all the smoke come out sia


then we ya then we, then we thought what happened mah then we just run lor then after that we all Kena punished cause we not suppose to sleep there, ya but funny lah but cause, in the end we just then in the end we like, cause we all will have one smoke grenade with us is for just in case got err bees


err, ya okay then we just take the smoke grenade and play we just throw at each other lor


then the whole training shed all smoke, yeah, quite fun lah I mean you get to do a lot of things that you you will never do it in real life like you you get to throw a grenade, that one is in Tekong, you get to experience tear tear gas


like you know those riot, ya then they will throw tear gas at you right let's say the the control the riot control police or whatever lah, so what what we do is we experience what it feels like to breathe in tear gas lor


so we will ya so we will wear we will wear these like you know those those mask you always see in movie, ya so we wear that kind of mask then we go inside this chamber then they, then they will release tear gas inside then after that they will ask us to take out our mask


ya !wah! I tell you that one was the worst experience man, you will cry, your your you will start producing a lot of mucus, then you cannot stop one then then you cannot rub your eyes because, your hand and your hand right all get in contact with tear gas so if you rub your eyes right is even worse


so you will just keep crying and crying and crying so then you cannot open your eyes !wah! that one was the I think that was the worst feeling ever in army, yeah, other than that other than that is quite fun you get to shoot I get to shoot err I get to sit in a tank and fire the err those those


army tank that you see in movies lor, which is quite fun lah then you got can fire err what you call they call it matador but it's like a rocket launcher lor, ya it's quite fun lah you get to experience a lot of things you get to experience how it feels like to be very near a land mine


a grenade that kind of thing then you can really feel the the ground tremble one after it explode,


, to me to me that's the that's the thing ah army army is quite is <mandarin>很好玩:hen hao wan </mandarin> one ah


, err back I I change company as in in Tekong I was in I was in Ulysses, I don't know whether is it still called that or not, yeah I I think I think they changed the name here and there already


ya I think, ya I also I also I also when you go in you will know but you you'll you'll change company one lah definitely because after your BMT right you're in Tekong right then you change already


correct, then after that err <mandarin>两个月过后你就去:liang ge yue guo hou ni jiu qu </mandarin> either <mandarin>你去:ni qu </mandarin> training as for to be a sergeant or officer or <mandarin>你去:ni qu </mandarin> company lor


then for then you just stay until <mandarin>到你:dao ni </mandarin> ORD ah, so <mandarin>如果你是:ru guo ni shi </mandarin> sergeant <mandarin>的话你就跟你的:de hua ni jiu gen ni de</mandarin> sergeant <mandarin>的人在一起:de ren zai yi qi </mandarin> ah


, correct, yeah, but you have to get your own toilet paper


ya correct correct, ya lor so you must <mandarin>自己带带:zi ji dai dai </mandarin> toilet paper, err


(ah) then okay lah that time my my time cannot cannot bring camera phone one, so now can camera phone then okay lah still can play game ah, okay, ya then can play like, !wah! one whole one whole section play mobile legends !wah! quite fun leh


I mean if admin time you play, they cannot they they cannot scold you what, and admin time I mean you don't you don't lights out play lah you I think you admin time play I think still okay lah


won't won't like !oi! !walao! eh why you all play, well yeah nowadays now quite chill lah I think army I don't think it's very, Jialat now, like I mean I mean if you don't listen to instructions properly you still get punished lah, but other then


ya but other than other than that, I think I think it's okay lah, there's not much like, you just tiring lah very tired, yeah yeah


yeah, then like for for for us right like you and me right if we sleep very late right !wah! very hard to sleep one


damn hard to sleep but after awhile I think after one two weeks you go you go in right, you every night I tell you you even after you book out right you you seven AM you will suddenly wake up one


that kind you know, !wah! go back sleep if not is oh I cannot sleep already you damn awake already then you just need to go eat breakfast lor, ya but very fast switch back one you see after I ORD I switch back already


yeah, oh, yeah


I mean it's a it's a change that you need to that has to be adapted lor, right, as in #bo pian# one lah you cannot Siam one mah, you cannot you cannot <mandarin>不要去:bu yao qu </mandarin> NS mah


ya correct correct quite fun lah I mean quite fun you get to shoot gun like !wah! like real legit can kill people one eh, ya but, troublesome lah, cause you need to you need a lot of procedures lah to make sure that


you don't misuse the the weapon mah, yeah, (oo), , [orh]


ah so so do you still remember all your commands, very, oh very important eh that one but they will teach you again lah in army they in army they will teach you again one


oh don't lah don't need to know I don't think need to know too long lah, ,


ya ya actually actually <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> CCA Tekan <mandarin>也是满多的对不对:ye shi man duo de dui bu dui </mandarin> like all the changing what what is it called change out parade ah, last time last time I secondary school that time is what ah I every time at night five plus right when when I going to err <mandarin>回家:hui jia </mandarin> right then after that I see the the people running Chionging to the toilet one then I like why why they like one whole gang Chiong toilet


then I see oh NPCC changing all Chiong toilet change come out !wah! then Chiong back to change again then I just like, that's


, ah, , !wah! they wake you up to change ah


!wah! shag, ah, oh, I hate it eh like changing parade, I think army now very little only changing parade


I because I I don't think


but !wah! tiring leh some more you only got got do you remember how long how long do you have to change, like to go full U, !wah! also same lah about same lah army is seven, seven minutes got you always have seven minutes to go from a normal civilian attire to a full battle order


ya that's what they they say lah, okay lah quite fun, err yeah


ya correct, oh


ah, but this kind is this kind is got got <mandarin>经验:jing yan </mandarin> one what, there are


but there are all these inspector they are naturally they have a like a police license or what or they are just like trainers, oh


oh then they come back lah (oo) okay okay, ah, ah, correct correct


ah !wah! three minutes ah, three minutes is damn fast eh I don't think I can change in three minutes eh


correct, ah, ah


, ya correct correct, , ah


then the CI hit one time can already, oh yeah when you go army you will learn how to how to pitch tent also, but the same is the exactly the same lah I I believe is the same


ya is is the ten peg also mah it's use the pin one then you hit one but that one easier to hit ah cause you use your gun to hit, you use something that is very heavy to hit one, a very big surface


oh your oh that means confirm smaller


NS one is err eh army one is one person only, two person two person pitch one tent, [orh]


ah, correct correct, ours is four peg, right, err <mandarin>应该是:ying gai shi </mandarin> four peg


err


ya to see whether it will fall right, (oo), okay lah maybe now you got experience what so army should shouldn't be a problem


that's true, yeah that's true no but but I think cause uh when I was in army right there was, this guy that is was NCC one in my last time NCC one lah but then he was in my section !wah! he teach us a lot of things eh like all the marching and stuff


so I think quite useful, because we all all all like <mandarin>白痴:bai chi </mandarin> like that ah all don't know one mah, ya so he teach us oh okay so this is how how you differentiate what turn left turn right that kind of thing, I cannot remember already ah after after after you ORD cause you NS you go back you don't need to


you reservice you go back you don't need to march already mah, you are the king eh , ya you're like you're like the king like that one they don't really go and touch you one lah no point what what what what can you do what you want to you want to pump me I don't want to do what you want to do what you want what can you do to me


so so is more, just, focus on training lor all the all the fundamental stuff lah, discipline discipline wise they won't go and waste time one ah, ya so so we quite


ya so we quite <mandarin>自游:zi you </mandarin> one we can err, some more most of the training right is eight to five, so after five either you go home or if you are staying in the in the camp itself then is your admin time lah then you can go out of camp lor


so you can just go out you can you can just go out to buy food go watch movie go play LAN then come back again lor, yeah, ya reservice is reservice is the best life because, you know you know when you are working right and then if you got a call from reservice your company still pay you your salary


but you are not there yeah so, company ah okay why why they call it the company pay you right it's basically the army pay your company the money then your, pay your salary then the company pay you back, it's like a it's like reimbursed lah


so so you go army is free one mah it's like a holiday like that, free holiday


ah


yeah, got got some they are quite quite err sick one eh like those doctors ah surgeons right, I got I got this guy he's a surgeon he's in my he he just he he I think he's thirty eight now ah he only this is his first reservist eh


so hor <mandarin>他多两年:ta duo liang nian </mandarin> hor <mandarin>他就不用:ta jiu bu yong </mandarin> reservist Liao eh, but <mandarin>应该他是他是:ying gai ta shi ta shi </mandarin> brain surgeon so, then <mandarin>他他问那个人:ta ta wen na ge ren </mandarin> hor <mandarin>他有他有:ta you ta you </mandarin> free excuse <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> leh <mandarin>如果他:ru guo ta </mandarin> suddenly <mandarin>需要回去做:xu yao hui qu zuo </mandarin> surgery hor


ya lor !wah!, that time I talk to him hor !wah! he he he damn smart one like he very educated kind one, he talk very Chim english then I just like oh okay okay


then he tell me hor he tell me oh if I get a call from the hospital then I need to go down and, I need to go to the hospital straight away to perform my operation then I like, !wah! bro <mandarin>你穿:ni chuan </mandarin> army <mandarin>衣服做:yi fu zuo </mandarin> operation ah then he <mandarin>讲:jiang </mandarin> no choice


then I just like !wah!, quite cool, quite fun lah quite fun


oh but when you become when you become senior already right can you like go and Tekan people you know, I, so so when you when when when is it the considered the time to go and Tekan people like <mandarin>你:ni </mandarin> sec three <mandarin>的时候:de shi hou </mandarin> ah


err because the sec four the sec four step down already right, (ah) !wah! fun eh,


[orh],


correct correct, oh !wah!, cause I see like !wah! very long never, never go back school, second school


, ah


oh, then you, okay lah !wah! you survive four years leh , (oo) so what what secondary school were you from


so you you stay around there lah is it, is it, cause I see Sembawang then NYP then NYP also quite near what right, I mean <mandarin>还是红线:hai shi hong xian </mandarin> lah right


I, ya eh is it four station yeah I I very long very long never take take train already nowadays is drive , cause the train, a bit scary ah you know, but because of the the COVID the COVID situation mah so


so if normally <mandarin>现在:xian zai </mandarin> if I <mandarin>出去:chu qu </mandarin> I will I will drive lor, err after army, I got it at when I was twenty one


yeah, twenty one okay the good thing ah when you go army right err, when on your second year right, after one year right when you go to your when you when you were posted to your company right, and then you got more free time right


go and learn how to drive, then you then you can save <mandarin>你可以:ni ke yi </mandarin> save <mandarin>很很多时间在在:hen hen duo shi jian zai zai </mandarin> err err <mandarin>那个:na ge </mandarin> err, because


uh yes correct because, one good thing is you don't need to worry about the money, or for the lesson because your army they will pay you mah, so you just use that money right to if you cannot if you are those that <mandarin>不可以:bu ke yi </mandarin> you know there are some type of people that cannot save money one they got money they want to spend one


ya so you go and spend on driving lor go and learn to drive, ya I think it's a very useful skill lah nowadays, in this in this modern modern world, then go and that's what I


before I ORD I go and <mandarin>学车:xue che </mandarin> already, then err just nice after I ORD I got my license !wah! I tell you that's the best, then like because you know army ah sometimes yours your


you know when you were secondary school all your friends normally stay very near you one because secondary school mah right, so technically all all your secondary school friends should stay around that school around the same around the school one, but then in army ah different cause everyone from everywhere


that kind of thing !wah! very very very gotta say one, but it's good is is good is a good skill to have lah I mean next time when you grow up if you got family you also then you need to learn how to drive also mah


, or or the best is <mandarin>你变成你做:ni bian cheng ni zuo </mandarin> driver lor, got vocation is driver <mandarin>也是:ye shi </mandarin> mah, that one is the is the best lah, because that one, when you come out of army right you just need to take some


some very basic traffic, course I think then you can convert already, to to commercial license then you just then you got license already lor, some more you don't even to pay eh because when you learn from the army right the army pay your pay for your license mah


yeah I got license lah I got license to drive a tank , ya ya but then cannot cannot drive anywhere I cannot go out and change to commercial what


quite fun eh, ya you !wah! you really <mandarin>什么都压:shen me dou ya </mandarin> eh just this one ah rock ah just crush only, then I say eh in front got this small rock then we just just crush the whole rock


that kind of thing, yeah, quite fun lah quite fun, okay, tank <mandarin>有有:you you </mandarin> drive <mandarin>跟:gen </mandarin> drive <mandarin>是:shi </mandarin> standard <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> lor


then , quite, err, that's it lah I think around but most of the time the weaponry is, is <mandarin>这些而已:zhe xie er yi </mandarin> ah


wait are you from you say you from where again Canberra sec ah, eh, isn't that's not thats's a, pretty new school is it, for very long already ah, or because as in I only know the side got new all the new HDB coming up


ah, ya correct correct, yeah, for very (oo) okay okay


, (ah), (uh huh)


oh, oh, ya correct correct


(oo), !wah! why I didn't know leh, oh <mandarin>那里不是已经:na li bu shi yi jing </mandarin> they I thought they just renovate the the what's the mall in Yishun called ah North Point yes


!wah! now the now the mall is damn big sia, I, yeah I I <mandarin>进去:jin qu </mandarin> I <mandarin>迷路:mi lu </mandarin> sia, too big already


yeah, ya but they sell a lot of food though, , yeah, oh


!wah!, KFC, wait ah wait ah let me think where's the KFC is it near is it near the, eh KFC ah, okay wait let me tell you what I know about the old Yishun north point


McDonald's


okay <mandarin>我懂那个:wo dong na ge </mandarin> then after Starbucks you <mandarin>一直走之你回到新旺:yi zhi zou zhi ni hui dao xin wang </mandarin> cafe, oh okay then what what change the below only is it


ah, ah, ah <mandarin>没有就:mei you jiu </mandarin> end lor


oh <mandarin>他们:ta men </mandarin> expand extend <mandarin>哪个地方:nei ge di fang </mandarin> ah, oh okay okay, ah


oh, oh I think I I wasn't sure where where I was lah that time when I went there but I only go there to


oh, oh is it !wah! that one I don't know


oh, oh but the old the old North Point is is quite small what it's just Starbucks okay not Starbucks lah maybe McDonald's to to the #Xin Wang# Cafe only mah


ah, time four !wah!, that is huge eh, that's like that's like adding the the other mall with the Golden Village what's that mall called


oh, ah, oh


yeah yeah yeah I know I know that that that's where the bus interchange is, ah, oh


oh, !wah! that is huge eh I think


yeah I last time last time when I was in uni I always go there and study study with my friend


ya go there and study until damn late lah, go there I remember we go there eat dinner first either we eat the chicken rice or the the Laksa there, the nine two five


ya Zhong overnight to study lor, JC also I think JC oh oh JC I wake up, early morning to study I wake up at like two three AM


then I remember I remember that time got world cup, so I study and and watch world cup , so I ya so I woke up at like three I think


then I study and watch the world cup then I go school !wah! then I go school Toh, damn sleepy, do you watch any like err sports or or, like soccer or basketball kind of thing


or you don't you don't work but so what what do you what what's your like your hobby, other than other than playing err, ya lah


like you go, ah, oh but you don't you don't watch lah, like NBA, oh


oh, oh yeah do you know do you know Korea has a, has a dedicated channel for League of Legend


like, that that means you know like err like Singapore got like, channel eight channel five right, that kind like channel eight always shows all the chinese show channel five shows the more the english show, like Korea has a channel right that only play


League of Legends so they will either do, streams from those famous people, like live streams or they play back some of the tournaments or if there's a live tournament they will play the live tournament


like when you ORD right you go overseas with your friend with your army friend


like a ORD ORD overseas trip so I went Korea for one month !wah! then I see that channel eh, like I I was I was, uh like changing channel on my TV then <mandarin>我看到那个:wo kan dao na ge </mandarin> channel then I like !wah! what is this game then some more that time League of Legend very new only


was like, seven years ago eh six six years ago, so the game itself quite new just come out only, !wah! then I like !wah! suddenly got already got this kind of dedicated channel sia, then still got


ya still got the narrator like no not not narrator lah those commentator will will talk one like really it's like those live tornament one lor, yeah


, but <mandarin>你玩的你玩的每次都是对:ni wan de ni wan de mei ci dou shi dui </mandarin> like, singaporeans meh <mandarin>不是不是:bu shi bu shi </mandarin> what right, but most most most is what like


I know DOTA is a lot of Indonesian people and a lot of Filipino people, in it because it's South East Asia right


, err but <mandarin>他会他会不会很:ta hui ta hui bu hui hen </mandarin> cancerous


I only remember is something that has to do with ice one, I I I I don't know I can't remember eh, !wah!, is it a girl I cannot remember I only know it's something to do with ice


that's pretty much what I remember, uh, because, uh like like like that one I don't know


but this kind of game a lot of the learning curve very steep one lah <mandarin>很难学的这种你你你一定要有你一定那个要有朋友:hen nan xue de zhe zhong ni ni ni yi ding yao you ni yi ding na ge yao you peng you </mandarin> to help <mandarin>你:ni </mandarin> guide <mandarin>你:ni </mandarin> along lah, but you you play with your friends lah you play with your your poly friends is it


or your secondary school friends, so so you have friends that that you play together lah like party lah, oh so you only play party lah same as me lah I also I cannot play by myself I think the server is too too cancerous


ya ya ya ya !wah! correct correct !wah! I think that I think that's the the


the definition of fun fun now lah then we when you play over Discord, then you can,


, [orh] then


oh, Netflix eh, oh so you don't watch like variety show or any like drama that kind of thing lah


what, what what K drama you watch !wah! very interesting eh !wah! very seldom I will hear guys say like they watch K drama, ah okay but okay the the I think the more important thing is you got <mandarin>看到完:kan dao wan </mandarin> or not


oh you oh you watch finish ah, oh I got I got some shows I cannot even I can't I can't bring myself to watch finish eh , too draggy already, err what what what what what was the most recent one thhat you watch


oh you know got this chinese drama that is do the e-sports one, on Netflix


the guy ya the guy damn Zai one, !wah! I cannot remember the girl got short hair girl I think there is a short hair girl


but the the guy is damn Zai one then he leave his he was the he is like the legend then after that he leave his he leave his team, to create another team of noobs then he go and carry them, something like that one ah


yeah, I cannot I cannot I cannot Google the title now because my I using mechanical keyboard so will make a lot of noise


but I cannot remember the title of the the show, , but eh that means maybe, I think it's different I think it's different, but it's also about e-sports one is it


about China China e-sports <mandarin>很大:hen da </mandarin> China is the one that founded e-sports what,


oh , oh, but oh then what what about what about err Korean dramas


like <mandarin>只看:zhi kan </mandarin> like <mandarin>你看:ni kan </mandarin> err,


!wah! !wah! sci-fi one ah


, oh eh <mandarin>很廋:hen sou </mandarin> eh, ya ya ya ya eh <mandarin>很搜:hen sou </mandarin> eh, ya ya correct, !wah! like you know !wah! <mandarin>很廋:hen sou </mandarin> eh but I can't can't remember eh


, then you are like (oo) yeah, you know


oh, I think Korea Korea script writers are really good though, the stories that the stories that they have ah !wah! out of the world eh but as in some you won't like lah as in most of the time I don't watch the Korea


drama right is because of the genre like some focus too much on like romance that I see already then I !wah! a bit Sian, like too much of it but then some, but the plot itself right is, like you will never imagine it as the plot one just that I don't even know how they come up with the plot leh


the script is too too too godly already, ya that's why, that's good, oh oh we talk more than one hour already


ya I also I also just realise <mandarin>十一点了:shi yi dian le </mandarin> sia, yeah


(err) okay I think we can stop here now okay what you do is, (uh) one two three you clap again, okay, ya ya just one two three clap again, one two three


err hello, yeah hello hello err my name is Alfred okay err I'm twenty years old this year, ya


ya ya I I <mandarin>今年:jin nian</mandarin> twenty, I graduated from nanyang polytechnic err this year lah then, ya so I haven't <mandarin>在等:zai deng</mandarin> lor and and err waiting to enlist into NS but waiting for my letter lah then like that lor


ya everything go already err I think I go, err PES ah, I think so lah most likely lah


how old do you think I was, ya, okay okay


oh, okay lah now right because <mandarin>有那个:you na ge</mandarin> COVID <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> situation ah <mandarin>所以没办法:suo yi mei ban fa</mandarin> lor must err stay at home then after that right now


okay actually my schedule is like very weird one I supposed to graduate april twenty twenty this year mah


supposedly ah become september twenty twenty


(ah) so now september twenty twenty right, then, err my, my module that got shifted ah is my internship only my internship because the remod is like foward mah I pass already then only left the internship that is the last one


so my internship right is, err become march to may march to may then all my other friends they april they graduate already mah I march to may then I may finish already right I got nothing else, ya until september because on the paper right it says september I end but only left internship internship only three months mah then the other half ah then the other three month ah <mandarin>没有:mei you</mandarin> lor


then, ya lah pretty much ah then err may may end my intern mah so I got june july june july, nothing do one, but circuit breaker all that, ah then


ya lah so like that ah then err so I decide to maybe find some job [bah], ya then I saw this lah I use the


ya ya then, ya lah so I found this okay lah then, not not not not so bad lah then I come here then after that, then we just talk ah, ya ya ya


ya, then err, err actually I not considered a full time gamer lah I only play one game only


uh <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> League of Legend lah, oh okay lah I mean


ya lah and, [orh] ah ah, [orh], !aiyo! like that I disturb you ah


[orh] got win or not, got win or not


[orh], you work as what one your company


oh I see I see


<mandarin>没办法了:mei ban fale</mandarin> mah right, is like <mandarin>没办法:mei ban fa</mandarin> lah no choice lah that kind of thing, you got do what other job


oh, [orh], (oo) eh that's cool eh


so it's just maths and err <mandarin>那个那个:na ge na ge</mandarin> science lah, ya my A maths err I think O level <mandarin>我拿到那个我拿到:wo na dao na ge wo na dao</mandarin> A two ah


okay lah not not so bad lah err to me right, to me right I my interest ah is actually maths I I really like maths


I don't know don't know now lah but back then ah it's not so low lah back then it was a fourteen point, yeah


four, L one R four it was fourteen point then I got err <mandarin>十二:shi er</mandarin> mah then I just go in lor, back then right, back then right I just want to <mandarin>找一个:zhao yi ge</mandarin> course ah that can err


you know err got related to maths ah because this is my strength ah


I never think through lah , ya ya ya ya


exactly exactly, but hor but back then hor because I just want to look for something maths mah then after that I hear from many recommendation ah <mandarin>朋友:peng you </mandarin> recommend ah then err <mandarin>我的家长的:wo de jia zhang de</mandarin> friend the recommend ah


then I, , around one of the highest lah then after that right


err, I I know that aerospace is one of the hardest lor then after that I want to join the, the course mah because I thought it will give me a challenge because I really like maths so I thought hardest engineering course means err you know like some ya lah but actually right engineering maths hor I think most of the engineering courses almost the same one it's just that the aerospace why difficult hor it's because the theory ah


ya lor ya lor, ya but, (oo)


oh JC hard or not,


, (oo)


no no no not not because of that problem you you try and guess, yeah, nanyang nanyang


err, (oo) ah <mandarin>对:dui </mandarin> lah <mandarin>有:you </mandarin> anderson ah <mandarin>我我是没有去:wo wo shi mei you qu </mandarin> JC lor


oh but JC they use L one R five what anyway, (oo), (oo)


ya ya ya, no back then my one also, oh my one hor is, because, okay partly but main reason ah <mandarin>也是因为:ye shi yin wei </mandarin> because my


chinese ah is like very horrible, ya but very !wah! very <mandarin>麻烦:ma fan </mandarin> eh I think I I really cannot lah


ya but I I tell you I from primary school, uh <mandarin>我做那个华文:wo zuo na ge hua wen </mandarin> hor is like struggle all the way until o level one like never once I got a proper pass like everything is <mandarin>不及格:bu ji ge </mandarin> one, that's why o level must <mandarin>拼:pin</mandarin> ah


then I I, ya damn bad, I oral I okay one because uh oral ah okay no no reading is reading is different story already


if if talk conversation ah uh okay but reading and writing ah listening also okay listening still okay lah but the rest ah especially comprehension like a lot of (ah)


exactly, exactly that's why hor <mandarin>我是我是觉得:wo shi wo shi jue de </mandarin> ah <mandarin>我:wo </mandarin> exam hor <mandarin>我的时候:wo de shi hou </mandarin> hor, I managed to get err C five, ya surprise leh complete surprise because I never once like that one I think is the bell curve they push everything I don't know how lah but it's just push lah then back then hor is chinese first mah so everything just full on chinese then after that


after chinese already right, ya don't need don't need retake they ask retake don't need lah just pass already nevermind one, then I just throw chinese aside like that lor finish already, then ya I think to myself ah if


then <mandarin>不是要:bu shi yao </mandarin> one more time the chinese come out, yeah, !wah! but <mandarin>我是觉得:wo shi jue de </mandarin> traumatizing ah must you know you finish the chinese already then after that come back one more !wah! it's like


then I also hear the general paper also a bit challenging ah, !wah!, !wah! this is like cannot lah I think cause they're very difficult


now ah err, okay ah because I end september twenty twenty mah then, my, result haven't come out


ya so it means my NS letter hor they won't send me before september mah confirm one because they know that I NS ya so, ya so end up, it's like earliest right


I got a,


, maybe, ya lah ya lah


okay ah so because I'm the later one mah means my circle of <mandarin>朋友:peng you </mandarin> hor all go NS already , then they <mandarin>刚刚:gang gang </mandarin> book out, yes they <mandarin>刚刚:gang gang </mandarin> book out only


they they still carry on mah, no stop ah, they just, okay for my friend right they say, err first week ah