okay lah okay lah <mandarin>我讲你一个就对:wo jiang ni yi ge jiu dui</mandarin> Liao lah , !wah! eh eh if you can dig out joycelyn part all of it ah I really want to know eh because ah I got a few okay I tell you my opinion ah I tell you ah I really read people a lot one I got a few opinions on


on on like why he will mention joycelyn so <mandarin>第一个是:di yi ge shi</mandarin> I suspect joyce know


yes, ya so that's why I suspect number one that's why I suspect


when we are in a sense together <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> so then people <mandarin>就跟他讲:jiu gen ta jiang</mandarin> or like people stir shit !aiya! you don't treat him lah always those shit one lah


I I that's my two opinion if, ya lor


how you know you remember that time what lydia say, correct eh <mandarin>这是这是这是:zhe shi zhe shi zhe shi</mandarin> wavy eh <mandarin>唯一一个:wei yi yi ge</mandarin> like out of three <mandarin>他是唯一一个不八卦:ta shi wei yi yi ge bu ba gua</mandarin> eh


!huh! chloe <mandarin>是一个:shi yi ge</mandarin> ah


what do you mean she was, no lah clara where got crystal only trust me, ya ya crystal only


but clara where got clara <mandarin>会讲:hui jiang</mandarin> meh, ya lor, , precisely ya <mandarin>我都不懂:wo dou bu dong</mandarin> ya that's why


no actually this how we we do it I want to hear this type of thing, this kind of thing if in the future I go and do this kind of job ah I think I wouldn't I wouldn't mind hearing this type of thing


you will hear a lot of stupid shit one, oh <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> hor <mandarin>可以:ke yi</mandarin> hor, !walao! what what three dream we want to follow Simi Sai


, and there are the worst thing is that time I still say eh <mandarin>我就我就敢讲:wo jiu wo jiu gan jiang</mandarin> I still say eh err err I want to I want to go full time into trinity


as in like it got you thinking that whether you should leave or


!wah! <mandarin>你看你看就是:ni kan ni kan jiu shi</mandarin> indecisive Liao lor , then


no that's what I told alysha also I told alysha say that


why I why I still am standing firm in my call report right that means my call in, like based on my moral beliefs and my moral compass right <mandarin>我是觉得:wo shi jue de</mandarin> like err err rather than leaving leaving trinity at a state like this right


I am sure leaders like before have tried to change something and what not but they also have failed and what not then <mandarin>我就讲:wo jiu jiang</mandarin> but if I actually tried to make a change then


instead of just leaving where trinity is at


oh bryan, and then


actually what his stand


I I I yesterday <mandarin>对我知道:dui wo zhi dao</mandarin> he is a very overthinker, ya from what I have hope my from his mother also, but then <mandarin>我是讲:wo shi jiang</mandarin> no <mandarin>我是讲:wo shi jiang</mandarin> not okay


like what you see ah like like everybody has a different stand but some of them are still delusional eh, correct, why why why you say like that why you say like that oh err


, actually


(ppc), , oh <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> hor <mandarin>也是这样:ye shi zhe yang</mandarin> eh


ya correct correct, I feel abby is like that,


I feel that how to say ah


but, I know he's very like, I feel ah okay I feel okay then you want me to centre where I feel uh the the one that you know his popular lah is like that interests


oh <mandarin>对对对那个:dui dui dui na ge</mandarin> umbrella, I I just I just realised is because like he play drums thats all


ah <mandarin>对对对对:dui dui dui dui</mandarin> !aiya! <mandarin>那个全部全部给了什么全部都是:na ge quan bu quan bu gei le shen me quan bu dou shi</mandarin> popular <mandarin>的跟你讲:de gen ni jiang</mandarin> , !huh! <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> meh


(mmhmm), ya ya ya like <mandarin>马克:ma ke</mandarin>


(mmhmm)


no lah you <mandarin>不是:bu shi</mandarin> lah ya ya ya


for me also err for me like like <mandarin>跟你一样:gen ni yi yang</mandarin> lor like <mandarin>人家:ren jia</mandarin> like they know me lor like everytime my sister say like my sister go around when she is in church ah but still go around and say oh I'm kayden brother, oh kayden ah <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin>


actually like that right <mandarin>我是觉得很可惜:wo shi jue de hen ke xi</mandarin> because, trinity honestly when if you are very bonded and if we are really really as what we say we are right


ya, , you stuff or they slowly recover, eh cannot leh cannot cannot so lonely ah is like is is is going to be like the


that time the the cheer leader believe that the same eh that's how we all started you don't know meh


then after that <mandarin>有多一个:you duo yi ge</mandarin> start with K one, ah <mandarin>那个那个那个也是:na ge na ge na ge ye shi</mandarin> join, then <mandarin>就是这样:jiu shi zhe yang</mandarin> lor


ah <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lah then then <mandarin>他们就他们就是这样:ta men jiu ta men jiu shi zhe yang</mandarin> that's why they slowly recruit people that's why they


maybe we can make bigger impact bigger change they only can do small group what


true the dylan alysha they all


it's true that's why but no it's not because they are not receptive is because, there are very stuck up to their own beliefs about trinity, which is very very different from what other people think about trinity is because


they are not seeing it from a peasant point of view, you know what I'm trying to say they are seeing it from a very high up point of view in a sense that, they are very attention based they are very err like


you know what I'm trying to say, like if let let's say if we got problems it's like very hard to for us to turn to leaders to talk


I don't feel is right, , cannot imagine what oh they coming back they coming


(mmhmm), you okay


no ah I don't think so you ask nigel ah I mean he got by what ah you ask nigel , because they scared


correct if not they will be called toxic lor like us,


you see lor that's that's the reason why I don't understand lor like why he don't want to talk about it lor


like like okay then, let's say lah let's say <mandarin>我只是讲:wo zhi shi jiang</mandarin> let's say if at that point of time <mandarin>你没有跟人家讲:ni mei you gen ren jia jiang</mandarin> would he have talked to you or not <mandarin>我是在想:wo shi zai xiang</mandarin> like as in would he have like because if it's for me ah even though how many people I go and tell ah I would want you to like


you give you the point of view if I'm really close to you lor <mandarin>讲真的:jiang zhen de</mandarin> lor, if like <mandarin>我是讲真的:wo shi jiang zhen de</mandarin> if you, if <mandarin>你这样这样跟我讲:ni zhe yang zhe yang gen wo jiang</mandarin> Liao hor, then hor <mandarin>我是会:wo shi hui</mandarin> like oh why you know kind of thing like ask <mandarin>问:wen</mandarin> lor you know even though


it may not concern me lah but, just ask lor for the sake of asking <mandarin>意思意思这样:yi si yi si zhe yang</mandarin> lor, that's true, actually a lot not a lot of people can talk to him lah really really


I say not a lot but they are, a lot of people in church there are there are people in church that likely do thea is one of them


really meh, !huh!


no leh but cannot leh in a relationship ah <mandarin>你要怎样你要怎样:ni yao zen yang ni yao zen yang</mandarin> keep leh because if not everything is going to be very surface then what is the relationship for correct, Dio Dio, correct <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> like okay think about it lah if like let's say <mandarin>我是讲而已:wo shi jiang er yi</mandarin> ah let say me and you ah if <mandarin>我们真的是:wo men zhen de shi</mandarin> have something right you have to


like what is there to know what is there to differentiate between me and you and me and like alicia or me and faith or and dylan <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> you know what I'm trying to say <mandarin>你不可以你不可以讲:ni bu ke yi ni bu ke yi jiang</mandarin> like everybody <mandarin>是你男朋友是你女朋友:shi ni nan peng you shi ni nv peng you</mandarin> are correct like as in there has to be something that you tell only to your girlfriend or something that you will tell only to your boyfriend


but it's because <mandarin>你跟他讲:ni gen ta jiang</mandarin> lah


I get I get, okay lah fair enough ya


that's true that's true, that okay then if you if you recognise those issues right then, then <mandarin>讲真的不要:jiang zhen de bu yao</mandarin> Liao lor, if you okay if you recognise a problem before you actually do it ah that means ah during the during during during the relationship if both have even more problems one


what alysha and I was staying right is that, okay I have a different stand on on err what alysha said alysha said is that err, she is like saying that oh confirm confirm <mandarin>不可以:bu ke yi</mandarin> that means that means your first your first guy that you meet ah like hundred percent you will break off


but <mandarin>我是讲:wo shi jiang</mandarin> ah, you still have a seventy five twenty five percent chance, yes because I don't want to be so pessimistic to the point that oh


if your ah so new and so like like none of you have experience that in this field right


you all will know a lot of things that, that you all will know about or you all will say about or you think about kind of thing, and, how much will it will need to be if it's somebody more experience somebody more like like


like <mandarin>知道:zhi dao</mandarin> how like how a relationship ship should be going and what not <mandarin>所以我是讲:suo yi wo shi jiang</mandarin> lor she told me she said that err you will know more about when you all are actually together ya you will know


you will know you will know more about even though ah you may seem like now you already know matte very very very well right <mandarin>讲真的:jiang zhen de</mandarin> ah you all may like you see like you you may seem like you know matte very very well <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> ah, but ah when you all get together ah


you will have a lot of other, side of matte ah that will come out and will have a lot of other side of joelle that will come out, ya <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> that's why <mandarin>我们是讲:wo men shi jiang</mandarin> that's that's the reason why <mandarin>我们是讲你们不可以:wo men shi jiang ni men bu ke yi</mandarin> or rather your first date is always cannot make it one


if this is fifty years ago if this is twenty years ago no <mandarin>真的真的真的:zhen de zhen de zhen de</mandarin> if this is twenty years ago because back then people don't care or what like I say people don't care about


back then you will be have been easier this one my mother tell me you know my mother tell me right , because my father right my father is only err secondary school graduate


ya but now you go ask some people to marry some PSLE guy like okay lah same age as you in a sense same age as you


no no no no like <mandarin>我是讲:wo shi jiang</mandarin> same age as you but me graduate from PSLE certificate <mandarin>你都不会:ni dou bu hui</mandarin> mah correct you will say like err I think about it lah, correct so that's why there is a lot more criteria as of now in terms of how dating have dating have evolved or the or like people looking into guys or girls have evolved right so much so that


if this is fifty years ago yes lah if you even if you your first one lah I will tell you meet ya just go only anyway you end up getting married so it's fine correct, correct ya


first love, ya first and last, pretty good !aiya! that time dylan go and say


their so <mandarin>我是跟:wo shi gen</mandarin> alysha <mandarin>这样讲:zhe yang jiang</mandarin> lor


ya I know I know I know I know eh I honestly, say within ask do you think whether they will last or not,


(mmhmm) <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor


but, that time alysha <mandarin>跟我讲过:gen wo jiang guo</mandarin> like alysha said that I don't know whether she got tell you but she told a girl that say like


what you mean, oh <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> lor, ya I also don't know what's the current status also <mandarin>所以不懂:suo yi bu dong</mandarin> but


on my standpoint ah on on on my standpoint of what it is <mandarin>我是觉得他们不会:wo shi jue de ta men bu hui</mandarin> loss, a few reasons because


I feel that, err dylan has done so many things wrong already, (mmhmm)


whether is wrong or right because to alysha you may be right to me may be wrong to me be right but to alysha will be wrong kind of thing, so


standpoint of breaking off soon or what not lah, that the trust has friction already, it's true what


!wow!


!aiya!


him the one start with R one


and then, oh


(mmhmm) (mmhmm) <mandarin>我知道:wo zhi dao</mandarin> ya


(mmhmm) (mmhmm), !aiya! you shouldn't have tell him like oh let's meet up to, I will pass you the visitors just say lets you meet up to eat lor then after that in the end <mandarin>你就讲:ni jiu jiang</mandarin> okay lor


oh, go lah, no lah you just like needed go ah never mind one


that's why <mandarin>我我已经已:wo wo yi jing yi</mandarin> like that time <mandarin>我不是跟你讲:wo bu shi gen ni jiang</mandarin> you cannot put too much hope in somebody <mandarin>我不是:wo bu shi</mandarin> I'm not being of the I'm not being passive mistake I'm not being the devil of a group [leh] I'm just saying that because


and clap, okay err


do nothing lah


[orh] okay <mandarin>因为我以为是:yin wei wo yi wei shi</mandarin> normally <mandarin>你们的:ni men de</mandarin> table <mandarin>已经:yi jing</mandarin> separate <mandarin>了:le</mandarin> but you have to do a <mandarin>比较长的:bi jiao zhang de</mandarin> distance <mandarin>来:lai</mandarin> separate


then then <mandarin>这次的:zhe ci de</mandarin> COVID <mandarin>不是:bu shi</mandarin> affect <mandarin>到你们你比较严重点:dao ni men ni bi jiao yan zhong dian</mandarin> but lucky <mandarin>你现在是还是:ni xian zai shi hai shi</mandarin> J J one lah


then <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> senior <mandarin>那些:nei xie</mandarin> J two <mandarin>的不是:de bu shi</mandarin> affect <mandarin>比啊比较严重因为他们还要:bi a bi jiao yan zhong yin wei ta men hai yao</mandarin> prepare <mandarin>他的:ta de</mandarin> O level


[orh] okay


healthcare ah healthcare industry <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> then ah industry <mandarin>是很好:shi hen hao</mandarin> lah but the company is not good lah


then <mandarin>要有一个距离:yao you yi ge ju li</mandarin> then ah


[orh]


okay


then <mandarin>没有那种:mei you na zhong</mandarin> uh homework ah worksheet ah


err


<mandarin>其实:qi shi</mandarin> whatsapp <mandarin>跟:gen</mandarin> wechat <mandarin>是有那种:shi you na zhong</mandarin> video <mandarin>的是:de shi</mandarin> similar to, houseparty


uh, uh okay, ah ah


okay <mandarin>我我我用英文参:wo wo wo yong ying wen can</mandarin> ah <mandarin>英文比较多中文比较少因为我不懂是不是:ying wen bi jiao duo zhong wen bi jiao shao yin wei wo bu dong shi bu shi</mandarin> the other way I I still single lah unfortunately <mandarin>没有老婆没有孩子啦对:mei you lao po mei you hai zi la dui</mandarin> I have been single all along oh <mandarin>我是有以前有:wo shi you yi qian you</mandarin> relationship lah but <mandarin>没有没有没有没有:mei you mei you mei you mei you</mandarin> ah nothing nothing came out lah nothing really came out lah so how about you you you still young


uh school got a lot of girls so how about you you got any relationship,


uh but the best thing is uh when come to retrenched is one side of the it's either the wife got retrenched or the husband got retrenched while the other side is still working ah <mandarin>是比较:shi bi jiao</mandarin> it is <mandarin>最最最好的:zui zui zui hao de</mandarin> err


best case scenario lah <mandarin>我是讲最好的:wo shi jiang zui hao de</mandarin> best case scenario err but err, with children now children actually can get err if you can prove your family


ah


ah eight hundred dollars for three months so is eight hundred eight hundred eight hundred, and it's a one time only lah ah if you but you have to prove to them you are diligently looking for job lah


ah for eight hundred dollars ah of my personal opinion ah because I some more I own a car ah, ah reasonable cheap lah


okay <mandarin>我至少还可以用:wo zhi shao hai ke yi yong</mandarin> my car as a grab hitch then err, and uh when I going from my house to the interview location on the way I hitch


okay uh basically I have a taxi license only


I also have a bus license, but the thing is for lifeguard license <mandarin>它的任期:ta de ren qi</mandarin> only two years you have to go for renew so I <mandarin>我我的:wo wo de</mandarin> lifeguard <mandarin>的我的:de wo de</mandarin> lifeguard <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> certificate already <mandarin>过期:guo qi</mandarin> expire for many years so <mandarin>我需要去一个:wo xu yao qu yi ge</mandarin> course <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> find out <mandarin>了那个:le na ge</mandarin> course err <mandarin>我只要:wo zhi yao</mandarin> two weeks


two weeks err duration and is around two hundred eighty dollar, can I can I can renew my lifeguard course my bus license no need to renew my bus license is every five year renew so it's still within the five years, but my cab license although it's within the five years together with my bus license


eh but the government add a additional <mandarin>三:san</mandarin> err <mandarin>三个:san ge</mandarin> course <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> I need to go for the three course before <mandarin>我可以:wo ke yi</mandarin> start on the road ah, uh


(ugh) by right <mandarin>应该是自愿啦:ying gai shi zi yuan la</mandarin> but <mandarin>因为他们:yin wei ta men</mandarin> add on three courses the three courses is ah number one vehicle maintenance number two is customer service, number three is safety access number one vehicle maintenance <mandarin>所谓的就是:suo wei de jiu shi</mandarin> err <mandarin>你要自己会:ni yao zi ji hui</mandarin> check <mandarin>你自己的:ni zi ji de</mandarin> vehicle before moving


oil gear and got engine, and err <mandarin>你听到有什么:ni ting dao you shen me</mandarin> odd sound then ah stop for a while and see whether anything wrong, customer service uh think the word itself self explainable lah <mandarin>就是:jiu shi</mandarin> giving good service everything lah but sometime is not a matter of the person giving a customer service sometime whether customer can able to take it


then for safety access it has ring, everybody is on the road and err a lot of people lost job then a lot of people become grab hitch first while taking for their grab or taxi license lah


ah where is ACJC ah I can't remember the location, so it's more on dover road lah


oh so it's err the old ITE HQ which the current SIT, and err ACJC then further down will be singapore poly, at somewhere lah


oh that one ah is err last time when there are a lot of HDB there are a lot car a lot of people have vehicle err traffic accident there, but now with lesser vehicle I don't think so lah


(ugh) singapore history you have to go look beyond look before nineteen sixty five, err for me I interested in history as in err the building


ah <mandarin>附近尤其你从:fu jin you qi ni cong</mandarin> ACJC ah walk out of ACJC and you walk towards singapore poly and towards uh uh another school the new town secondary school, you notice err when you walk there your right hand side is singapore poly the left hand side is the uh some international school then further down there is like a bunch of forest


so that forest if you walk right you will saw a road to go in


if you really interested in history and history building


[orh], what what I suggest that


I don't know err the clock colour lah <mandarin>要是我没有记错的话:yao shi wo mei you ji cuo de hua</mandarin> your your school have a clock tower is it true


but ACSI, [orh] okay then err okay <mandarin>你从你的学校跑出来应该:ni cong ni de xue xiao pao chu lai ying gai</mandarin> to your left all the way then you will see singapore poly on your right


meaning ah then after that singapore poly will be keep will be keep on your right then err on your left you will see some <mandarin>国际学校:guo ji xue xiao</mandarin> international school <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> all the way down then you you will pass err err err


power station a a a small power station to power up neighbour ah the your school one belong to the school then <mandarin>你再继续跑下去慢跑:ni zai ji xu pao xia qu man pao</mandarin> then <mandarin>你的左手边有一条马路你直接跟你朋友一起走进去你不要一个人:ni de zuo shou bian you yi tiao ma lu ni zhi jie gen ni peng you yi qi zou jin qu ni bu yao yi ge ren</mandarin> don't be alone okay don't be a hero or alone and you go there during daytime please do not go during night time although there are lights but it's quite dark so ah during daytime a ah three ah three more of you total four of you


ah <mandarin>跑进去:pao jin qu</mandarin> then ah when you <mandarin>跑:pao</mandarin> when you inside the area try to do normal jogging don't talk too loudly because the neighborhood is very quiet the <mandarin>那边的人是:na bian de ren shi</mandarin> in a quiet neighborhood err the building there is usually black and ah black and white usually is mostly white


ah


, , but <mandarin>可以可以:ke yi ke yi</mandarin> a lot of people go to school a lot of people, ah, ah go to school then after that go back home never explore


when when when when my <mandarin>三年时间在:san nian shi jian zai</mandarin> singapore poly <mandarin>的时候:de shi hou</mandarin> I really really explore my school use the swimming pool use the chair use everything, I also run around that's how I discover the interest there


ya that would get why you need to think outside the box


okay after A level will be your army are you afraid


ah that one is a allowance is not a pay ah you have to you have to differentiate a allowance and a pay ah


only come out during the weekend but if you got in in relationship is a good time for you, to do a <mandarin>考验:kao yan</mandarin> ah a test if your girl girl never run away


along the way ah that one is okay if the ah that one is a keeper lah <mandarin>是一个可以留下来的女人:shi yi ge ke yi liu xia lai de nv ren</mandarin> ya after that if the girl never uh run away never mind the good wife is yet to come


ah ah, the good one is yet to come


and he she he really find he really find a good one after the uh national service


your time is five day week lah my time is five and a half day then sometimes plus duty is one whole week or two whole week in fact err during err it can be you will not be surprised if got ah overseas exercise you one whole month will not see your family don't say your girlfriend


then a bit of iguana a bit of bats


ah nothing else ah, maybe your your sergeant your officer <mandarin>会在那边干大叫慢慢跑:hui zai na bian gan da jiao man man pao</mandarin> then you will treat them like, crazy but after that you would think about yourself you also another crazy fellow


ya it's very <mandarin>难吃:nan chi</mandarin> because when I was in secondary three, we got this army experience then when we go to stay in uh #nee soon# camp where the basic


military training used to have is uh before Tekong, I stay there for four day three night and the cook is still the national service man doing cook


but my time, NTUC foodfare took over, although it's still <mandarin>很难吃:hen nan chi</mandarin> but it's, I I believe your kind should be better than mine already lah


I said, ah <mandarin>因为现在他们想要:yin wei xian zai ta men xiang yao</mandarin> you are go there to learn how to defend singapore, and you have to know all the weapon weapon, weapon ah all the better strategy and how to use technology to help you to win the battle or in the other word not to win the war but to defend successfully defend


singapore because singapore is a defensive force not a, ah, and uh counter force is is eh not sorry eh not the word counter you're not the one who invade other people we are a defensive force we protect


so ah the simple rule of, the ratio is like that lah for my technology lah <mandarin>现在是有:xian zai shi you</mandarin> ah the purpose of IT


so the IT is doing well that, one person come and invade maybe two person with the help of technology to go and uh protect singapore


err sorry ah ah for your information ah, malaysia popular is allowed in singapore this is your part is correct but malaysia army is not a force, to, make people to go army


it's not like singapore all the singaporean which eighteen or twenty one years old or anything you have to become to go in to become singapore soldier malaysia don't have that, malaysia during my time err you unless you want to make a career you sign on


then ah or you got nothing to do you need to have some form of income you sign on, err they got err national service for both men and woman


but under ballot, so <mandarin>说你:shuo ni</mandarin> like Macam lucky draw lah you are very lucky, you will go in, to serve the army for three months, I don't know what to train for three months lah,


then err if you unlucky, you don't need to serve you lucky you serve, I I don't know the thing is still on in malaysia like that because I got some malaysia colleague who I working with, err a lady he say that she serve army for three months


and it's like uh camping lor don't feel like serving lor, oh maybe they already increased six month already lah


it's it's the same it's the same the guys and the girl are are are train together but when they sleep the sleeping counter is different


but when they train they train together like singapore army now when when the, then err but when you resting when you still awake <mandarin>你清醒的时候:ni qing xing de shi hou</mandarin> resting everybody <mandarin>也是在一起的:ye shi zai yi qi de</mandarin> but when the time for you to get your rest and sleep is err will be separated lah


and when come to outdoor training err because it's peace time it's still peace time the girls would have a portable toilet <mandarin>有流动的厕所她们可以用:you liu dong de ce suo ta men ke yi yong</mandarin> for guys you just dig a hole pee inside and shit on in the hole then cover te hole and we shit in the the great openness


ah but they will have some uh cloth to cover you lah not really you shit then let everybody see everybody look at you you look at everybody no lah there will be some form of cloth cover you lah, ah


ah like err like like <mandarin>你做:ni zuo</mandarin> camping <mandarin>这样啦:zhe yang la</mandarin> camping you you <mandarin>你要是你你有去:ni yao shi ni ni you qu</mandarin> decathlon <mandarin>的话你有看它们的:de hua ni you kan ta men de</mandarin> camping it's just that <mandarin>它的:ta de</mandarin> camping <mandarin>只有那个:zhi you na ge</mandarin> canopy <mandarin>而已没有那个:er yi mei you na ge</mandarin> groundsheet, then you just that one is your toilet you dig a hole then shit then you cover then the next person have to get another hole


have to be very deep lah


because there will be no, and you all are shock


ah ah army confirmed don't have paddling lah for one thing for sure army <mandarin>没有:mei you</mandarin> paddling <mandarin>的机会那个是那个是:de ji hui na ge shi na ge shi</mandarin> more on if you ever touch water, is uh when you are doing combat and if if your vocation is a combat engineer but that one is beyond BMT their basic military training


ah whatever you are doing <mandarin>你可能去做炮炮兵炮兵:ni ke neng qu zuo pao pao bing pao bing</mandarin> english will be armour


ah then ah when you do combat engineer there will be a segment called river crossing then you will touch water or else it will be the navy person will be touching the water


uh but when when I was going in in nineteen ninety nine, at the age of twenty one because I go ITE I have to defer


ah, surprisingly I'm not the only so called, is quite a number of <mandarin>老兵:lao bing</mandarin> with me so <mandarin>老兵:lao bing</mandarin> meaning it's err people who beyond the age of eighteen lah


but I can tell you lah the last time you have to do a lot of preparation now the army is if you are physically fit you are okay you are not physically fit they will not push you until so hard they will progressively


with planning <mandarin>一步一步来来:yi bu yi bu lai lai</mandarin> increase <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> combats stamina, sleep as early as possible as like ten or ten thirty PM wake up as early as possible like five thirty to six AM


if you use to thar you are safe because when only a few time when you go outfield, you got no sleep only


where you are, ah, ah you go military seventy two hours straight is a luxury you will not be sleeping for one whole week


or or very little sleep for one whole week


ah it's not really you have to stay awake the whole week it's like, you will getting lesser and lesser sleep to simulate battle time because you don't know when your enemy is coming, ah


they will let you sleep but not enough sleep, then after that after the whole field camp, I tell you the first thing you will go get you will go back to your bunk ah you will see the bed ah but you will not lie down on the bed you will lie down on the floor


so you will sleep on the floor, then some of the people don't sleep they go bathe first washed the clothes then after that go to sleep


okay talk more about uh uh what you going to do after your A levels, it's like more the time it's like I talking then you your conversation is not there I going to eat your time, what you going to do after A levels


just study what you are interest at that point of time now you maybe interest in law but after NS you may change, just study what you interest first


I know what you mean lah during my time going after my O level I go ITE ITE want to try whatever course the popular course will be engineering and I choose megatronic it because megatronic is consist of electronic electrical mechanical and a bit of computer science it's a Rojak course


uh if you don't understand a Rojak course <mandarin>是一个综合:shi yi ge zong he</mandarin> gather of, then you only touch on the surface but you never go for detail, but I tell you lah why I ask you to


but <mandarin>我做的是:wo zuo de shi</mandarin> hydraulic


so your interest is, more on law lah


okay let me let me help you a bit to let you have more conversation on this or else like most of the time I talking I ask you some question you try to elaborate more on your on your answers, what is your childhood ambition when you grow up


okay okay try talk like more like a singaporean way with a like, ah <mandarin>参杂不一样语言:can za bu yi yang yu yan</mandarin> ah <mandarin>因为这个你别忘了我们这个:yin wei zhe ge ni bie wang le wo men zhe ge</mandarin> conversation <mandarin>是要参杂一些:shi yao can za yi xie</mandarin> ah different type of uh your your talking and your mother tongue ah


doctor, but, for human being there is heart surgery brain surgery and a lot of or ya or animal or something else


okay let me ask you a example ah err from a ITE student in fact I'm also a primary eight student


uh, I'm belonged to one of the last batch of primary eight and I got one uh uh classmate which was true story <mandarin>真实故事:zhen shi gu shi</mandarin> ah, err she go to secondary school, but we go to different secondary school eventually she also go to ITE I also go to ITE but different ITE and uh uh he go school U but I go ah ah no he go to poly while I go to NS after that I came out he go to U


and, the, the poly she if I not wrong she study uh uh, not related to doctor, but her result is good, and she take doctorate in uh university overseas university fortunately and she was so hardworking actually she got a scholarship


so something will change lah don't let everything fits you you may study this one like your history ah <mandarin>就是你的历史:jiu shi ni de li shi</mandarin> but eventually after NS


two time in three years, ah I changed my field from marine and oil and gas now


in fact I now uh monday I going to have a second interview, is a, duplication motor oil is a different industry and the industry I'm moving it's automotive industry sea


and marine, instead of oil and gas and marine, ah so so which which U as okay let me ask you the another question


if you go to NS what's the vocation you are looking for, ya, meaning that you will become a rifle man inventory lah, or you will be a gantry in armour or you will be a armour infantry or you would like be a commando or you want to be a store man or you want to be a clerk that one is your vocation lah your your you mean you will be in NS wearing the same uniform it's either green blue


or green blue or I don't know the white lah then ah or the police uniform or the SCDF err SCDF uniform and inside got different job, so what is your <mandarin>最想做:zui xiang zuo</mandarin> during NS what is your vocation


err how we go about for drivers because <mandarin>我的二舅是:wo de er jiu shi</mandarin> driver


Ubi, okay you will have a three month training there after that you will be assigned to be a driver and err you have to learn drive <mandarin>不一样的:bu yi yang de</mandarin> vehicle <mandarin>从一个:cong yi ge</mandarin> normal car to service lorry service van and the lorry we talk about here is we call it five tunnel because it weigh five time


which lorry weigh five time the old lorry is call three tunnel, ah five tunnel is more powerful and you need and driver ah you don't think you drive drive drive very easy leh you have to wake up earlier then the soldier because you have to eat your breakfast eat your meal first and you have to check your vehicle before you go out because if you


ah like you go to battle you need to transport the soldier to the battle


and the in front maybe your front guy already people fighting you are sending the reinforcements and the lorry breakdown and the reinforcement never come everybody die you die I die everybody die so err


eh suddenly I sound like a indian man okay err, or you need to hit certain amount or quick distance in order to get your driving license


so talking about driving what is the car that if you got a driving licence what is your dream car


okay for your information when I first time drive err my my very first car is a nissan sunny <mandarin>喝油喝到我怕:he you he dao wo pa</mandarin> okay err but err why is why it drink drink the oil like until <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> so <mandarin>怕啊是因为我:pa a shi yin wei wo</mandarin> I I want to have a very firm frame of car that if I got ever got into accident I will not be trapped


because the body is weak, you see what what you want on the car I want protection that why I need a heavy frame but it's oil consuming lah <mandarin>喝到我怕人:he dao wo pa ren</mandarin> when I drive to malaysia, sorry lah talking about one hundred and one hundred twenty lah my maximum one hundred eighty ah and the car is very Zai very firm very good because it's heavy


go and download a software, which link to GPS, then <mandarin>你就:ni jiu</mandarin> slow down <mandarin>了:le</mandarin> in malaysia


plus


so, you want a normal car but what is the model make that you are looking at


ah because <mandarin>我跟你讲一个东西啦:wo gen ni jiang yi ge dong xi la</mandarin> no matter how safe you are on the road


that was first accident for three days second incident <mandarin>五天:wu tian</mandarin> five days, and it's all from the back people come and knock me I never go and knock people


ah, and uh just now you say got work the car is a ah necessity actually car is not necessity in singapore singapore transport is still quite good, car is a burden because when you come out of the carpark and you go to for example lah my nearest shopping centre Jurong point


then


on my opinion lah as a car owner lah I telling you is, some point in life you feel like owning a car I will tell you, when I was <mandarin>就是:jiu shi</mandarin> come out I see my cohort my classmate the the same cohort


okay owning a car here and there and you'll be like motivation to work when you own a car you will like what the hell, I go one place no carpark I go the other place nearby also no carpark, and my engine is still on moving while looking for a carpark when your engine still moving my petrol is going down


but I would suggest that aim for a car yes to motivate yourself, to be more successful, then you will you will hopefully you will get a green car but


the money you use on the green car green car is a excess money meaning you can


besides the necessary money which the water electric housing and future family plan for retirement lah, ah plan for retirement then ah, singapore in order to retire you have to plan very early it's a bit too late for me lah although I already start planning but it's still a bit too late for me


ah start planning the moment you step out of your house and work, no matter you are working part time or full time part time when you are still a student, now a lot of student playing uh shares which I don't encourage unless you know you got some good mentor to teach you


or you do online business, you got some good mentor to teach you, so, so after that we after talking about cars


what about houses


if you if you are not married to another person like <mandarin>你没有:ni mei you</mandarin> married to a wife


you want to as a alone uh uh lonely person like me you have to be thirty five but until now I haven't got my own place because I've been living with my mum at the same time I can take care of my mum and I when I came out to work I already plus ah close to thirty years old around twenty eight twenty nine so my CPF actually is uh


will be wipe out lah if I buy HDB now so I wait a bit longer but I would buy I will get a flat before I reach forty five lah, uh but it's true that you can you have to buy a HDB in ah then you can buy a condo but uh it's not a law if you want to buy a condo first it's okay


but you cannot buy back your HDB if you will still live in the condo, ah, plus <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> have to sell your condo away lah


but <mandarin>你先买:ni xian mai</mandarin> HDB but <mandarin>你要在三十五岁之后要是你是:ni yao zai san shi wu sui zhi hou yao shi ni shi</mandarin> alone and single and with money, okay the most important is with money and you can buy a HDB you stay for five years minimum five years then you want to buy another condo okay lah but rules may change lah in the future


but it's a good idea you have a three room flat because eventually if you get a wife lah, ah after thirty five you no need to move away what three room flat should be enough for your children if you have two boys or two girls but if you have one boy one girl uh they can stay together for a while


when they are growing up they may need a separate room maybe you can from there you increase to four room lah, (ppc), ya correct and err


and, it it will pay by cash and together with your CPF lah, and actually new flat if you stay with your parent you will be getting a lot of grand


up to forty K four zero K, if I'm not wrong err for the latest information for you next time in the future I don't know lah would be changing lah, but I will believe the <mandarin>那些:nei xie</mandarin> grant <mandarin>应该:ying gai</mandarin> uh <mandarin>或者那些:huo zhe nei xie</mandarin> allowance for living near to


you own parent or your wife parent it will be given, and err when you all have your first child the first child uh the government will help to support a bit only lah, although it sound like <mandarin>很多钱其实:hen duo qian qi shi</mandarin> when you come to the total amount of uh


child from first day when born until she is, starting able to work the allowance is very big eh you can imagine how much you spend your parents never give you and you know, and you are not bringing money


so we have one more minute to go but I would like to drag for another one more minute meaning that ya one hour is sixty minutes I would like to drag until sixty three minutes lah just to be safe


so uh uh okay I it seem to be more of your voice than your voice err let's go to another topic, uh, what would be your ideal girlfriend


but you got in in a relationship before or not during student, !wah! you damn bloody innocent leh okay, [orh] okay okay okay okay


[orh]


oh then we we I think we better skip that topic, , !aiya! just now you haven't you haven't answer me what is the vocation in the army you want which is uh the driver and driver to get your license but after that


oh may not ah may not ah, you can wake up late for some of the training and your sergeant or your subordinate will be the one doing, because some of the training officer may not be no need to be there because they may need to do strategy planning in the office


which usually we don't call it recruit lah when you in we call you recruit but after BMT you go for all the sergeant course or OC officer course or uh


armour armour how to drive a tank how to drive a car or whatever that part we call it trainee, okay so when when you, when you training a trainee sometime the officer will not appear because the officer will be in the office


but doing strategy ah ah planning lah for what to come for your future training lah, okay err anything anything you want to add on before we off this session


okay thank you


okay good night


okay bye


[orh], err <mandarin>就是他们有体育这种:jiu shi ta men you ti yu zhe zhong</mandarin> sports lah


ah


ah, ah


!huh!


ah to make sure like, keep keep body in shape lah


<mandarin>没有它也会:mei you ta ye hui</mandarin> CCA <mandarin>的时候就是说它它就会没有:de shi hou jiu shi shuo ta ta jiu hui mei you</mandarin> focus <mandarin>这么多:zhe me duo</mandarin> on technique lah but on fitness lor <mandarin>所以:suo yi</mandarin> <mandarin>没有没有整天练球而是去:mei you mei you zheng tian lian qiu er shi qu</mandarin> like <mandarin>做:zuo</mandarin> push up sit up <mandarin>跑步这种这种东西啦:pao bu zhe zhong zhe zhong dong xi la</mandarin> ah


ah <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> online <mandarin>然后:ran hou</mandarin> , online <mandarin>学习就是有一点:xue xi jiu shi you yi dian</mandarin> so <mandarin>有一点不一样:you yi dian bu yi yang</mandarin> lor ah, more err <mandarin>因为:yin wei</mandarin> online <mandarin>学习它:xue xi ta</mandarin>


ah but <mandarin>其实是因为现在你们:qi shi shi yin wei xian zai ni men</mandarin> uh


ah, oh


err <mandarin>然后:ran hou</mandarin> (ppc), ah


oh


[orh]


(uh huh)


oh it's it's beside Buona there like it's uh like a five to ten minutes walk away from Buona #buona vista# MRT, ya dover road there yup, it's at


uh ya ya


oh <mandarin>没有那个是:mei you na ge shi</mandarin> ACI because uh AC <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> school <mandarin>有很多有:you hen duo you</mandarin> ACS barker <mandarin>有:you</mandarin> ACSI <mandarin>有:you</mandarin> ACJC ACJC <mandarin>是是两年的啦是:shi shi liang nian de la shi</mandarin> after after your secondary school <mandarin>你两年就上:ni liang nian jiu shang</mandarin> JC lah ACI <mandarin>是四年的也有两年的也有然后:shi si nian de ye you liang nian de ye you ran hou</mandarin> ACS barker <mandarin>是单单只有四年而已:shi dan dan zhi you si nian er yi</mandarin> lor ah


[orh] [orh] <mandarin>我会去看的:wo hui qu kan de</mandarin> ah


(ugh), uh <mandarin>应该会很:ying gai hui hen</mandarin> Jialat


ah


[orh], [orh]


[orh] <mandarin>因为:yin wei</mandarin> singapore population very small lah so like you want to invade other people you also don't have that like you see our neighbour lah malaysia lah malaysia population twenty five million lah we only six million plus, so we cannot really do anything if


well let's say if they want to attack us we also cannot do anything, us


[orh] oh I got malaysia friend lah okay but according to malaysia friend I think even the female like the girls right have to serve for six months actually


ya so I don't know I don't have malaysia guy friends lah but I know that for girls it's six months now so


[orh], ya


oh I see I see


[orh], I think, err for sec three <mandarin>的时候我们有去一个叫:de shi hou wo men you qu yi ge jiao</mandarin> OBS <mandarin>的东西:de dong xi</mandarin> I don't know ya we have lesson to #pulau ubin# then basically we do for both boys and girls ah we do actually like what err I think there is something like what they do for army lah we hiked around ten KM plus in the day we pedal we kayak around the #pulau ubin# lah so I don't know it was very tiring for me and then they said it's gonna be worse in the army ah so I don't know I don't know how tiring army is gonna be lah like


[orh] I have a teacher he said he doesn't sleep for seventy two hours straight during NS


!whoa!, it's allowed meh I thought they cannot like I thought there's there are rules that say you cannot, restrict the recruit sleep or what


ya ya, [orh]


oh, [orh]


oh


ya, err so after A levels like, okay lah I after NS lah so after I getting my A levels I hopefully I can go like a university lah I can go university then maybe I want to take like law or maybe say


like economics or something ya but I honestly don't know like what I want to, what I what my occupation will be like in the future lah but just like you know like just taking it one step at a time first because ya


for instance say like for example <mandarin>你去大学读历史你出来也就:ni qu da xue du li shi ni chu lai ye jiu</mandarin> okay <mandarin>历史还可以读那个什么还可以做:li shi hai ke yi du na ge shen me hai ke yi zuo</mandarin> politician maybe it's like something like geography at university


both sides must reach consensus lah ya


[orh]


ya <mandarin>他们也是很强调啦要要:ta men ye shi hen qiang diao la yao yao</mandarin> follow what you want do what you love lah


okay sure, err when I was small I wanted to be doctor I think, but after that I realised I wasn't very good at sciences cause doctor the university course entry entrance is very strict lah you have to get a certain like some specific subjects like biology and chemistry I think and it has to be all A for like top top universities like NUS (ppc) SMU NTU I think it has to be all ace or like maybe one B lah which is very competitive lah


ya, ah okay


ah, back


he feels better after he talks to you and then he, maybe like <mandarin>他有什么:ta you shen me</mandarin> like mental issue like


I that was what I thought lah but, but <mandarin>我现在已经没有:wo xian zai yi jing mei you</mandarin> like


vocation


(uh huh)


oh ya


dream car ah I don't know lah at I think for me like any car will but but but I don't want a sports car only because I think sports car for singapore not very suitable unless you frequent <mandarin>如果你常常去:ru guo ni chang chang qu</mandarin> malaysia <mandarin>的话就不一样啦因为新加坡新加坡的路也是:de hua jiu bu yi yang la yin wei xin jia po xin jia po de lu ye shi</mandarin> the highway <mandarin>也没有多长啦然后它的:ye mei you duo zhang la ran hou ta de</mandarin> speed limit <mandarin>也是:ye shi</mandarin> eighty <mandarin>没有:mei you</mandarin> singapore <mandarin>最最高:zui zui gao</mandarin> eighty ninety <mandarin>而已它没有超过一百所以如果你买:er yi ta mei you chao guo yi bai suo yi ru guo ni mai</mandarin> sports car sports car <mandarin>你也快不到哪里去所以是也不能跑这样快啦除非你跑的就算跑:ni ye kuai bu dao na li qu suo yi shi ye bu neng pao zhe yang kuai la chu fei ni pao de jiu suan pao</mandarin> malaysia max <mandarin>也是一百一百一百二没有记错的话:ye shi yi bai yi bai yi bai er mei you ji cuo de hua</mandarin> ah <mandarin>有:you</mandarin> hundred hundred and twenty so user really can't like


get sports car ah but for me I think if I get like a normal car would be good already, ya


[orh] but


model ah, I never really think so much about model to me like car <mandarin>车基本基本的东西就是说:che ji ben ji ben de dong xi jiu shi shuo</mandarin> transport lah that's the basic necessity lah


ah ya


a few years time upgrade to four room then a few years time upgrade then eventually just keep upgrading lah


uh ya lah but for singapore I think it's if as long as you have a job they will allow you to take a bank loan correct


ah ya but ya lah


ah, ya I I can understand lah, and


[orh] okay, ideal ah


I don't know leh but I haven't really thought about thought about it cause I know I don't want get girl I don't want get girlfriend before NS lah, no no


ah I was in boys' school lah, ya


I don't know lor the regular lor I suppose, loyal uh


I don't know lah I haven't really thought about it yet, [orh]


ya I don't mind becoming officer actually, cause officer officer I think they need a lot of discipline themselves lah so to if you want to ask the recruit to like wake up at like since six AM you must wake up earlier lah so


I think it will be like good training for self discipline lor


oh, [orh] I see I see


[orh]


ya I think it's good lah uh all the best for your interview lah maybe ya, okay


ah


okay thank you thank you, bye bye


can


okay okay


ya correct okay now I feel very embarrassed about it because previously when they sent


me into one of the breakout role <tamil>அவங்க எல்லாரும்:avanga ellarum</tamil> they were saying that #priyanka gandhi#, submission thing for Acer I was thinking oh my god was I like adult beak to be talking about


okay err, to be very honest right in the whole process of non the productions either it was accidental


thing because <tamil>அதுக்கு முன்னாடி:athukku munnadi</tamil> like I'll just give like a small bag story <tamil>அதுக்கு முன்னாடி:athukku munnadi</tamil> I was in polytechnic and I was telling you right <tamil>எனக்கு:enaku</tamil> tamil <tamil>மேல:mela</tamil> I always want to do something for the language so <tamil>அந்தமாரி இருக்கும்போது:anthamaari irukkumpothu</tamil> like I went for ICS meeting and


I realise that it wasn't like a platform for me so I left after the first meeting and when I was in FMS like the journey was a bit lonely because everybody around you not that this has anything do face wise or anything but


our people are very little in FMS so in that aspect you felt very lonely and I felt like I wasn't like if you do not like tamil and the secondary school <tamil>வரைக்கும் படிச்சி:varaikkum padichi</tamil> like we're not putting it into any use when you come into polytechnic so that kept haunting me a lot so after that my school has a campus radio station called radio heatwave


so but <tamil>அவங்க வந்து:avanga vanthu</tamil> what that they only host english shows that goes on campus and soon enough like I came to find out that there was a chinese show particularly so I started to question that ya whether they can even give it to a chinese show like why is there no tamil one then I was talking to my lecturer


jokingly then she said Apri you have so much of interest now then you go and start on your own go and pitch for the idea go and push for it, so that was when I was telling myself okay like was with a lot of hesitancy you when I started the show buy


when we started it I managed to start and all those things lor, by the time when it was time for internship right naturally I wanted to go inside Woolie to do , my my internship with Woolie, and I was talking to my teacher in-charge for radio heatwave and he was telling me because he is I I'm not sure whether you know who's Yoganathan


but he used to be err Woolie's head last time, so you are sitting now in US telling me saying that like Ma I don't think you should go there because <tamil>இவ்வளவு தூரொம்:ivvalavu thooram</tamil> you build up yourself to become a presenter and everything but <tamil>நீங்கவந்து அங்கபோய்:ningavanthu angapoyi</tamil> you will be sitting at the back and you won't be doing anything like this in the front end


so after that and during my show what I'll do is I will interview industry people on my campus during my time slot so after that I met I worked with JRR tuition when I was in like when I was ten because upper and that was very interested in acting


so up I was acting on TV and she was my executive producer for the show that I was doing so after very long when I got this show I called her on board the show because the <tamil>கலாபக்காதலா:kalapakkatalaa</tamil> was going on on boston the menu it was a hit among like, our age group so I called on board so after so many years when we met she was talking to me saying what do you want to do and everything she was telling me that she has her own production company and everything


so I was thinking that writing is something that I always wanted err thinking like this the best time to explore, so it was very difficult for me to put aside the thing of like interning with, Woolie I was still considering until I really spoke to someone who was really intending inside and she told me no


so I told myself okay never mind so I decided to go with the production one and the production one the shocking thing is first I was working under JR I thought I will be given opportunities to write a lot since she's a writer herself right but it turned out to be the extreme opposite I was doing production and


it was something that I didn't really enjoy in school by weirdly I was enjoying during , the whole time in my internship though uh I really started from ground zero we had to learn everything I think I have to give it off to my producer keith really I don't know what he saw in me or something but he really pushed me like nobody's business so like


I was we were doing as assistant producers but I will sit in to watch an edit when the show goes out I'll try to piece things together for them so that, I remember midway like questioning everything but I think what really stands out is <tamil>நம்ம:namma</tamil> final lah when we see <tamil>நம்மலோட:nammaloda</tamil> show <tamil>இவ்வளவு தூரொம் கஷ்டப்பட்டு:ivvalavu thoorom kashtappattu</tamil> we work so hard behind the scenes but the moment it hits the TV I feel like everything becomes worthy like that moment when you watch your own show on TV


so but when I was telling you previously saying that I don't know whether this is what I want to do because I also see how much it takes out from me in terms of like you sacrifice your family dime a sacrifice your time with your friends your three quarter of your time goes into working creating something as much as I feel like it makes me a very happy person


but I also feel like there's a lot of things that people don't see, ya, ya correct previously


now she's not with comic book, she came out and she started her own production companiy so stardust stories is her production company with her partner beatrice, no she's not


err they didn't the thing is they didn't let us do production assistant we did assistant producer me and my another friend we were both assistant producers of the show, so what we did was <tamil>எல்லாமே செஞ்சோம்:ellamae senjom</tamil> basically <tamil>நாவந்து:naavanthu</tamil> only when I went back to work full time because I did went before university started I went to work full time <tamil>அப்பதான் எனக்கு:appathan enakku</tamil> honestly ah <tamil>தெரிஞ்சது:terinchatu</tamil> what is the real job scope of an assistant producer because back then


it's always like that right like the varsenal team is always so small <tamil>நாலு பேரு அஞ்சு பேரு:naalu peru anchu peru</tamil> will be the production team so we didn't know that we were doing things that were producing level kind of thing like I said that <tamil>உட்கார்ந்து:utkarnthu</tamil> piecing together things all is no longer what an assistant producer will be doing ahead right it's out of the job scope


we would be doing that logistic wise everything calling up people scheduling that they like, we did everything ya


you are not on Instagram okay, now I was shocked that you're not on Instagram as a media student I'm so shocked


content creators, I just want to say that


it is so heartening for the first because, every time I meet someone or I talk to someone like even in the industry they are always like my circle of people who know me they will always disturb me saying that, Priyanka is like the girl for Vasantham you know she


the one because I'll always say that like, there is so much of problems that's going on there's so much that people are complaining right saying that uh our content is not improving the content is just stagnant all those things, so I will always tell people saying that


why are we not being the change that we wanted to say I know I'm talking like that change is so easy to happen but I will always will tell people saying that if you think that needs to be something done you have to, be the ones they're being into like make the changes so it was


when I was talking to you I was just like mindblown that oh my gosh like for the first time, I really met someone who say it because all these while like I've never like people complain and it stops there and they will just say it so bad like people are not doing anything but my concern is if it's so bad step in


no matter what people are saying because at the end of the day we are never going to improve our community is so small if no one steps in like this what at this I believe that <tamil>யாருமே:yarumae</tamil> step in <tamil>பண்ணி எதுவுமே மாத்தலேனா:ethuvumae mathalaenaa</tamil> is just going to be like that in we're forever going to be complaining forever this is how things


are going to be and I feel like there are


that's something that really needs to change because they can be these kind of people inside but if the management level nothing changes means like things are, always going to be like that like, when we were working on , better on it came out on


vasantham as a talk show for we catered for the senior age group after when we filmed finished everything already and we are and we will proceeding onto to work on the next show which was the liner which is a drama series and naturally like a drama series there's so much that goes into it and we were pegged back-to-back with projects


when we were uploading and giving them suddenly they approved everything already but upper we were uploading then they said that your segment four is rejected go out and film again, and that's not fine right because we as production we know that


you don't just we don't just work magic in one day we need like, pre-production production period so to me it shows that the management level is either they know what the production, people go through of which I feel like they don't but it's more like you don't


have the experience you don't see it from the production side of you point of things, so that's why I was like just thinking that it's nice to see that, there are actually people out there who recognise that it's bad and, wants things to be changed


it's a it's very convoluted space like everyone is is err you know


but out of curiosity I'm asking like for example <tamil>நான் சொல்லிட்டுருந்தேன்:naan solliturunthaen</tamil> like mine was a total accident like I wanted to do radio and I ended up in production like how did you end up you said that you went to why tantra


like how did you even go after like, how did it start for you basically


okay I will be very honest that this is week eight of school


few weeks back it was very bad for me because, I feel like it might have been a mistake working in the industry before coming


for someone who is so passionate about what like I was doing at least for the past few months and everything like in my polytechnic and everything the skill styles equipped like over there I felt like I was learning hours really learning in my polytechnic because those hands-on experience


they really thought you from scratch and everything I know that when I picked tweaking we a lot of people warned me that it's going to be repetitive you know like you're gonna be learning like, much the same thing but I thought, when it comes to production especially I feel like, you need to make a lot of films you will learn from the projects that you work on and everything but then I didn't realise that for me to get there year one is clearing compulsory modules


you have to do things that are going to be repetitive so it's about holding on until there, so the past few weeks weeks I was like shit like this is really not for me like I don't feel like, and I'll be very honest that the only thing that but, I was like but I really enjoy NTU TLS like that's one of the thing that I was enjoying so I was telling myself that if I do really drop out after top out of this also but jokes aside like I was thinking like


err like what you said like classroom like, your professor is asking you question is always the same few people like if you are vocal like I'll answer and stuff like that but, it's so dead you know and I'm just like this is not how learning is supposed to be why are they not teaching you what really happens in the industry


like you are writing exams after exams but my, question is I don't sit down in the industry and write exams, like I need to know why something why something's being done this way, those kind of things right, I mean I did really want to drop out


but do you think about your parents like how much these, means to them everything they neutralise dateline, so what I'm telling myself as of now is it feels like there is nothing you're walking in like blind faith


but I'm just telling myself to just like, like at the end of the day as much as I want to walk out of it I feel like this is my passion after all like I wanted to be in the media industry since I was ten so, I know that there's something but it's so difficult to hold onto something while you're walking you blind faith like at this point of time


so ya that's, it's been three years for me now I can proudly say that


b,


okay ya ya no because my laptop was dying already so I was like shit I just fluffy


ya I am, why ah, ya it is, cannot record ah like it can only be mine


but you never say your face is purposely what, no


forty seven minutes <tamil>பேசிருக்கோம்:pesirukkom</tamil> what I say, because I really didn't know that even when I was reading the thing, it didn't they didn't put at any point that your piece is compulsory for you to wear, or did I miss


(uh huh)


okay


ya true


okay to be very honest with you, I am how do I put this I like to watch TV programs, more than me watching films per se, like I


why I told you right like people will always disturb me as like this girl is going to work for Vasantham was because I will always tell them that when people ask me like what's your childhood right my childhood was sitting down and watching Vasantham, programs like that's how I grew up, like, watching like the whole thing of like watching


films everything happened to me very recently when I went to work with a production company like I was very much interested of like how can we do like a better drama series in singapore, those kind of things compared to like how can we create like a movie and all those thing but that only happen after I went into a production recently then I started to see the importance of like watching more films watching because


after I left my internship and I went back from my final year, I took up all production module so I took up documentary TV production and err radio so for my documentary we had to do a film, and I badly wanted it to be then my school brought in honour singapore for them to for us to collaborate and they will fund your film


and I don't know why suddenly for a girl who doesn't even watch like film like I've so badly wanted to direct the film, and when I was directing and working like, there was a lot of idiots whereby like put down like, I wanted Shabir to


do my title check for the documentary I was working on so I can still remember when I sat down with him telling him saying that like err do you mind like err, doing the first thing I say was like so how many films have you, directed or what are the films have you watched so far for you to be directing


and then I just stopped for awhile my producer was sitting beside me and she was she just stood there because, I always liked his music, and I was thinking !wow! so this, other kind of people that exists in the industry and like, these are the kind of people that I looked up to because they were making like he started from somewhere he was rejected on Vasantham star as wildcard round they gave him an opportunity to come back so I expected these kind of people to be more


you know so I was quite taken aback but I felt like thanks to him I, really wanted to make sure like, what, we were doing like it was really good I mean he did and I am thankful because he did end up err, doing it and I do respect him in a sense that he did ask me that kind of a question but when he watched the film you also made it a point to call me up and said that like


you really did like a very good job, it make you moved up and like we have no regrets that like this film will go far and things like that so to answer your question in terms of like films I watch I'm starting now only like now then I'm starting to watch as I realise that to create something you need to watch and hoard


you can't be watching local content and expecting that you'll be creating magic about it, uh


ya ya ya I have I have, uh


oh ya


(mmhmm)


, ya, , ya


, definitely


err


after I watch uh, I really like the song <tamil>நீ பார்த்த பார்வை:nee partha parvaai</tamil> so someone close to me told me did you watch Heyraam because that's where, the err sound came out I went to watch Heyraam when I was, mindblown


by the movie I know a lot of people have a lot of, negative things to say about the movie but to me is, it was, something different something that I feel like I wouldn't watch but I was so shocked that you can create a film like that and make people watch it made me watch it made me think


so ya, I am a Vijay fan so naturally any Vijay movie is a good movie to me, , , yes it is he says what you choose to see out of it


(ppl), okay


alright we'll just keep little plug it back in, and, okay err


but fifty fifty tamil english , child resonate gave that, you don't need to go to the questions yet because I feel like there's still some stuff to share


ah, in the mooncake london there ah are you the one who was also working in effort in Mediacorp Vasantham or symptom on productions


oh


who who is qualified enough to do the role another in the publications report target even though like I had all the media experiences needed the film students like that instead of putting in media for video they put me in publications just because I took tamil literature


so <tamil>இருந்த வருஷம் என்ன சொன்னேனா:iruntha varusham enna sonnenaa</tamil> people where they want to be instead of where we think they should be and try that <tamil>அது எப்படி இருக்குனு பார்ப்போம்:athu eppadi irukkunu paarpom</tamil> bubble and then as time goes by not say like experiment then find out and feel like it's err, we will guide you along the way we will learn along the way it's about what you want <tamil>அப்படி பார்க்கும்போது:appadi paarkkumbothu</tamil> some positions were lacking like interest so we were just curious like so from there when you don't have people who want the job then you have to find who are best for the job and


ah okay for the record I wasn't like going raving about it lah I just knew that okay as a media student this is our hassle there's no such thing as student live or work life it's all together so it's natural to have like internship experiences and all


so I just thought it was very wholesome but doesn't mean you wanna do media especially working with a symptom all the money you don't want to work on productions and net rightfully so your interest wasn't necessarily there and they were like eh why ah like no let her


but ya I I brought that up because I was just curious is that why you, you say you are not you find productions really tiring you can tell me all about the experience how it all started


so JR was with comic book, oh now she's not with comic book, ah right


so she's not with #abbas aber# anymore I don't know if we're supposed to talk about all these things but for all equivalent uh, so what was your main role as a production assistant


ah right


ya because I interned at ah, tantra


a school <tamil>ஆரம்பிச்சொடன:arambicchotana</tamil> things more comfortably now because there was a mad rush for all kinds of things then err university model version I


reached out to, #anantha kannan# #rajesh kaana# they also wanted to do some stuff ah cardigan summer similar contact he has dream catcher, or something his company they wanted to do it like uh


and I used to have HT everywhere like for tamil events and all, so they just got relax and started engaging with me but my problem was I understood all things about symptom just from working with tantra all the good stuff and the bad stuff so that experience was enough for me to know ah


that there was there's it's very very restricted what is going on in vasantham the learning curve the culture and everything, and I knew that it had to change I'm not going to go there in the guise of participating because I ever went that direction it was to effect the change uh and you know lah all those in charge ah at least forty fifty years old who don't really move


because in their own right they have suffered to get to where they are they had their own struggle, so some of them feel self-entitled that <tamil>நான் இவ்வளவு தூரம் கஷ்டப்பட்டு இவ்வளவு சம்பாதிச்சிட்டு இவ்வளவு தூரம் வந்துர்கேன்:naan ivvalavu thooram kastappattu ivvalavu sambaaticchitu ivvalavu thooram vanturkaen</tamil> I know how it's done, you can't fault them for it because singapore itself was not very err accommodating towards the arts and media scene until like the eighties or nineties until then they will just struggling with TCS so


all these companies came and went millenia motion pictures uh Surya with three sixty, ah <tamil>அங்கங்க:anganga</tamil> you know like it's always project <tamil>இருக்கரப்ப:irukkarappa</tamil> it's just like mad rush project <tamil>இல்லாதப்ப:illatappa</tamil> it's like talk to everyone <tamil>எதாச்சும் பண்ணலாம்:etachum pannalaam</tamil> when it finally happens I'll just like move on and do their own thing


and it's not like they're doing great stuff the quality is its the production quality is horrible the content is like so mainstream and are for television Girtha it's like this is safer this is what works


uh we are national uh, you know national broadcasting channel we have no reason to be creative for push boundaries we are just here to serve that purpose of being a national broadcast so like you know you as a young student trying to find your way you are asking yourself do I want to contribute to the system


or do I want to follow what I believe is right but then when you look at those who followed what they believed none of them are successful in singapore like such a challenge and then I was just like, I'll do it I have to do it


you know I don't want to join that that that bandwagon or Vasantham and especially as now like someone who studying too has started production and who is studying like you know something along those lines that we kiwi, I have my reservations lah now like, we came this way of teaching is different from ADM uh ya it's like


not even ten percent of what we're being taught is being practised in Vasantham, and all that so now I'm at that place in my life where I'm like


I'm twenty four years old I'm in year three now what do I want to do, what I want to make out of this life of mine as a film maker in singapore, ah, of course it's easiest option is to just go overseas lah, and you know you have the portfolio further you have the credentials if you graduate


err because all over the world to get into film school or even media schools like it's considered tough by their standards you know for us it's like even our worst school could be another state's best school level kind of thing because the demand is there you just have to be you know culturally culturally err


uh well read-up and all, but at the same time is like <tamil>இவ்வளவு நாள் இங்க கஷ்டப்பட்டதுக்கு:ivvalavu naal inga kastappattatukku</tamil> you want some kind of a closure, like some kind of a satisfaction which is why one of the reasons I created a student council like which I just did last week because


!huh!, !huh!, ya I I wasn't I haven't been on I'm not any social media for like the past few years and I had no complaints about that life was amazing


but you know when it comes to the whole hassle at all it's a very moral dilemma also like you know do do I wanna participate and, create <tamil>பண்ணதுக்கே ஒரு:pannathukae oru</tamil> from other people, not even start like commenting or person messaging and then you become part of this whole lifestyle


and I didn't like it, but at the same time like it's the rice bowl, and you know you need to what you have to do for other people who are not in the media industry to them it's like, ya why do you need ten thousand followers they're just an accountant


is is someone gonna, DM you sending an account for me or what no, but if you are a filmmaker like you have your own camera equipment you have more followers more people will be like !hey! I want to shoot this video I can pay you that's your rice bowl not a nine to five thing so I was thinking is that okay versus like living by your values and starving it just got to a point where ya you know parents getting old and you need to


err start uh earning for yourself and I joined the bandwagon, purely I medicate a business account just upload like portfolio stuff and, some people have already reached out to me like till they really loved your staff and like you want to collaborate and


somehow I feel like it's inching me towards Vasantham for <tamil>அங்கங்கையோ சுத்தி:angangaiyo suthi</tamil> is gonna rely brother <tamil>நல்லா பன்றீங்க ஒரு:nalla pandringa oru</tamil> show <tamil>இப்படி பண்லாமா:ippadi panlaamaa</tamil> like we are the future, inevitably look at all those like JR Suria kevin william or


whatever like those till they are like just they are the generation not generation like but you know the wave above us, they are the ones who are in and like contributing to the industry there are youths our age who are already contributing but that's because they didn't like formerly learn and all


they just hustle their way and like you know they attach themselves to a company, then they finally qualify okay <tamil>நீ முதல்ல:nee muthalla</tamil> coffee boy ah <tamil>இருந்த:iruntha</tamil> light <tamil>பிடிக்கிறதா இருந்த:pidikkiratha iruntha</tamil> now you can <tamil>நடிக்கிறியா:nadikkiriyaa</tamil> or script <tamil>எழுதுறியா:eluthuriyaa</tamil> things like that, but the age of like students who went through full fledged media school learn the formal process make festival films even if the time is coming you know and then we have to decide do we want to go over or do we want to stay as independent content creators


times are tough it's a tough but hopefully school gives us a nudge in the right direction lah


the again


it's err it's a very convoluted space like everyone is just, ah you know, I went there thinking that, learn candid ah <tamil>இருப்பாங்க கேட்ட சொல்வாங்க உண்மைய சொல்லிடுவாங்க:iruppanga ketta solvanga unmaiya solliduvanga</tamil> and everyone realises that it's horrible but <tamil>எப்போதும் பேசும்போது:eppothum pesumpothu</tamil> is like


everyone forms that okay basically my graph is this right no one knows what filmmaking is in singapore very few know those are those that go to film school formally at the then they like <tamil>நாலு வருஷமா படிச்சிக்கிட்டு:naalu varushamaa padichikkittu</tamil> now they're ready to even start trying original


I respect those who were like passion sold to pick up their own camera putting their own money and do things lah but you know you need to practise your passion with some brains also, darren tino argument little like !wah! I'm a self-taught filmmaker I'm a self-taught studied in a


if within you worked in a video shop watched movies every single day when he says <tamil>நான் படம் பார்த்து:nan patam parttu</tamil> part filmmaker lah I didn't go to film school I went to films <tamil>அவன் ஆயிரக்கணக்கான படம் பார்த்துர்கான்:avan ayirakkanakkana patam partturkan</tamil> like within a day watches three to four films so he can he can and he was in Hollywood


that was an industry that was already booming with talent and resources all he had to do was go there and like pitch an idea everything else could fall into place for him he just has to you know direct it here we don't even have an industry we only started out in the in the nineties you know after


this year's and all for the longest time was just doing variety shows like dramas only came in like err after the eighties after the nineties, and films only started booming after the nineties when the film commission was formed in tamil only came into the picture after two thousands when all these companies slowly started emerging until then it was all theatre companies just shooting stuff and uh all those variety shows whether its Ravindran or


you know it was theatre just recorded theatre, film language is complete different or production process so different but everyone just pretend like they all know what it is and you know the the ego is there like <tamil>இப்போ இப்படி சொன்னனா இப்படி தப்பாய்டும் சரியாய்டும் பாத்துக்கலா பாத்துக்கலா:ippo ippadi sonnanaa ippadi tappayidum sariyaayidum patthukkala patthukkala</tamil> then the end product you look at it they will always say it's nice


because it's art ultimately is art you can you said it's not nice doesn't mean you're correct so they know that it starts with them saying <tamil>நல்லா இருக்கு:nallaa irukku</tamil> because your own art you say not nice right, and so when you have everyone like the whole industry is on it


everyone's gonna say everything is nice and ever so rarely someone decides to say this is not good and you know if that someone someone important than everyone else agrees ah <tamil>இது நல்லா இல்ல இது நல்லா இல்ல:ithu nalla illa ithu nalla illa</tamil> for some reason victor decided that it was good and it became one of the best at that time


then as time goes by other shows come in and out and like okay this was great that was great anything that TT Dhavamani does is amazing anything that tantra does is shit even <tamil>நல்லவன் இல்ல:nallavan illa</tamil> even all that bullshit and I was like


I literally ah went to the office and told him I quit I'm not going to work for you because I don't like the way you do things this is not filmmaking err I'm sorry then I left and he had a grudge against me after a while you know he he forgot who I was lah good enough ah


and I worked for Yasser at millenia he's a really nice guy like he went to film school in polytechnic also and he's learnt he knows more than some people you know but at the same time he also is part of that league of you know <tamil>இதான்:ithaan</tamil> content


but I was there like no no no no no no and when you say no too many times people don't want you anymore, because they want to move forward and that's the struggle of trying to create the change it's like everything needs to stop for awhile then resume


or it has to gradually change and for the gradual change totake place you need to have that energy and that commitment to overcome all those things that are going to come your way an actor coming in and saying I know how to act and acting horribly like no no no


you need to bring them back to zero and then teach them again how to act cimematographers who came like implement lighting you and gone all that you need to bring them back to zero and say try lighting it this way, everyone needs a new look on this and you really know how tough that is <tamil>இது ஒரு:ithu oru</tamil> coffee order <tamil>பண்றதுக்கே:pandrathukae</tamil> tea <tamil>கேப்பான்:kaeppan</tamil> okay we see what we can do then they'll ask the PA to make the coffee or get the tea bag or something


ah but ya that's why I feel I prefer the indie scene where my friends and I come together and just <tamil>சொந்தமா காசு போட்டு:sontamaa kaasu pottu</tamil> take own equipment then we just go and shoot something narrative upload it online one of the perks of online digital marketing you know


but it's, we don't really talk about rice world also like I feel the time will come when, err, you know platforms like Netflix Amazon and all they try to go global


they will reach out to individual industries and like try to find small specialised contact which they already are doing a lot of my peers are only uh not peers like professors or friends from there who are here and they're working on projects which have err feature films for like you know Netflix and all that


so I know that is happening and they are only taking in those who actually know how to do things they call you in as a producer, uh, you would know like okay this is a script breakdown this is the budget breakdown uh


according to the cinematography you need to know like this is this is the kind of camera this the lens and all those the technical know house you know what is pre-production what is post-production, if they go to baseline going to find anything there it's gonna be three production with more planning call sheet time because older than


err, ya it's, philip was just ranting about Vasantham we need to


so when I was in NS uh, the first year was when I got accepted into NTU ADM so I I decided ya


gonna be a filmmaker until then I wasn't hundred percent certain I'm gonna be a filmmaker, I just knew that I absolutely love films and I would definitely want to be a filmmaker one day but there was at a time when I was still speculating like do I want to be lawyer


because until that age I was my english was relatively good I was also taking tamil literature so linguistics was there and uh I was in NPCC so I was involved in all of this err criminology stuff and then I just thought and arguing very good at arguing


Suria law I did an internship at law firms and going in that direction but then when I got accepted into ADM I just thought I applied because err it was the only film school in singapore there's Lasalle and all those other places but balancing


err, Lasalle <tamil>நா என்ன தோத்தனா சோறு போடுவாங்க:naa enna thottanaa soru poduvanga</tamil> lah and, overseas was too expensive to apply like all those you cares forms and all that the school fees also too high students so once I got in I decided I'm going to be a filmmaker I just started looking all over singapore like for the next thing to do as a filmmaker and I thought Vasantham


err so face ahead Facebook at that point, uh and I went to look up like all these companies were they doing you know and I followed the jackie sara was one of the co-producers for the <tamil>சென்னை ஆறு லட்சத்தி இருபத்து எட்டு:chennai aaru latchatthi irupatthu ettu</tamil> so I'm that kind of guy I just go straight for goal


so I went to person as a I think they were doing uh uh some kind of a call for talents for, like send us video auditions of yourself like in your some talent you know I just send a video recording saying I want to work for you but this is not an audition


I want a job uh immediately he replied and say like, come to my office tomorrow, I went to his office waited for two hours he didn't come waited for three hours he didn't come, uh then his one of his staff came out he kept telling me go back home go back home after the he saw me at the food at like we agreed to meet at like one o'clock then he wasn't there then the staff came like <tamil>இன்னிக்க வர:innikka vara</tamil> because apparently the night before was some SPB concert and he was one of the organisers


it's like oh <tamil>சார் வந்து இன்னிக்குலா வரமாட்டாரு:saar vanthu innikkulaa varamattaaru</tamil> basically trying to say that <tamil>அன்னிக்கி ராத்திரி சரக்கடிச்சிட்டு மட்டையா இருப்பாரு:annikki rathtiri sarakkadichittu mattaiyaa iruppaaru</tamil> he won't wake up and come today and I was like oh


one hour later he came out because he is going for lunch <tamil>என்ன இன்னும் இங்க உட்கார்ந்திர்கீங்க அவர்லா வரமாட்டாரு:enna innum inga utkarnthirkinga avarlaa varamaattaaru</tamil> then I said


four o'clock I went to his house uh he was still sleeping, and it was a terrace house so like and the gate the bell was spoiled so I tried I couldn't get anyone from inside the house to come out


oh err JK <tamil>பார்க்க வந்துர்கேன்:paarka vanthurkaen</tamil> oh sorry sorry come in come in sit down he came down and it was like in the night, , now you coming down and asking me how are you and all that never acknowledged the fact that you made me wait


but that time I thought like this is the culture you know it's not about apology or acknowledgment it's about moving forward you know about the grind, then he asked me like know what's your interests I say I want to direct films then he told me okay, err


tomorrow come to my office and we will discuss err, basically the terms of the contract lah like working part-time and all so I thought oh sweet so I got the job so maybe the four hours worth it was worth it you know those kind of, left when next day I went to meet a hissy or not him err


coumarin at that time coumarin judy kumar you know him he came he is like he gave me that whole spiel about he never call anyone to his house you know he saw something in you are really gifted and all that is like ya


okay can lah err, so I started working with them for like six months because I told JK I want to go to call it what I want to direct a tamil feature film, and he said can but you need to prove yourself as a director lah okay lah let me direct it's like no but you're not really director and I said ah no I think I am


but I had nothing to show for it so rightfully so he couldn't let me take anything because I wasn't a I didn't have anything to prove, the six seven months I was basically their


they get I get calls at like eleven twelve midnight also saying you need to do this do that, I say this is not filmmaking I mean if <tamil>கஷ்டப்பட்டு:kashtappattu</tamil> and the final product is amazing at least I can feel good, but the content also was not great so I thought


after six months I thought this is it I'm gonna quit and left and I went to this whole meditative process of like, I'm going to start school in a few months I'm gonna become a filmmaker, what who am I what do I want to do as what throughout this whole periods watching a lot of films also naturally watching a lot of interviews behind the scenes reading a lot of books about filmmaking develop myself as a director and I only got my first validation in year one semester two


when I took my first film making more because they first year first semester is all like foundation modules like arts and craft the year one semester two isn't like took a practical filmmaking the model film direction module class and I got an A plus


and my entire class and professor and everyone who came over to film loved it, and, that was it like I was like, I know my shit I am correct I'm probably wrong could be wrong


but compared to Vasantham I'm definitely correct I know what I'm doing, so why did they reject me, and then for the next one two years is like blossomed into this all that I told you about lah it's collaborations came and then they wanted to know and stuff but I I turned almost all of them away


talkshow leh <tamil>போறேன்:poraen</tamil> it's as easy as you accidently walk into the studio you can be on TV also


ya and last year when #sutiri kavi# we're talking about everyone wanted to do it on Vasantham like collaborate with them and I told them no they gonna delay us it's gonna be very stressful for us we do it on our own the previous president said no Vasantham


and everyone was like do in Vasantham it's like I was the one in charge, I had to give way and say fine let's do it, naturally because of Vasantham we delayed, the the only reply was like two three months later, everything got delayed short films got delayed the production of the film the quality was so horrible


meWATCH, was like !wow! !wow! !wow!, empire of the short film


then I realise lah, this is what singaporeans deserve, who are we to come in and say you all deserve better and if we are then we have to put up that much fight to make it happen, and we are fighting against something that's been built upon the shoulders of people like #lee kuan yew#


so I don't know if you know like sir kevin william, err what's that film UV two and all, there was , kevin is a friend lah like a spoken during a couple of times with discussed filmmaking and all but I told him like


you need to learn the craft properly and like stop complaining about, the people are not respecting like talent no opportunity and all because you you need to be smart about it lah this is singapore, you can't sit around with a script and hope that some money item will pick you up and do something with no money letter the closest we have to a celebrity a star director is like


I don't know honestly like TT down when you but you know he just in his own cocoon like blue river it's just producing stuff and having a good time and now that now here and there everone is struggling to suit you also have to join the hustle to be smart about it but you know he's just


they push to that point and then you can't like dispute with that really matter how cavalier your short film you put on YouTube when you say it's amazing I have to be like well done well done


then the next day seven AM considered by the way guys meet eight AM in one hour, I have to take taxi lah I can't I physically can't reach there in one hour sorry cannot claim the taxi


so, all that said I still strongly believe that, the passion for film will never go away from me and I trust that it won't go with you also I don't know if it's films as motivating maybe we'll get to that in a moment but like


err ya I, I just coincidentally yesterday was having a talk with my professor after we watched the film together and we want to be home I was telling him I feel so dead when my classmates in india especially they also very dead like


I don't know if you experience this in wikipedia me not it's only your first few weeks in school but teacher <tamil>கேள்வி கேட்டா யாரும் பதில் சொல்றதில்ல:kelvi kettaa yaarum batil solratilla</tamil> what do you want to do cater advances like, I'm just seeing I'm trying like maybe who knows who knows, you're in year one you getting that I'm in year three and I still get that also


with people being eating their way like not clear about what they want to do and I told him like is this a cycle like, is this always happen


and rentals made those who made films will be saying oh ya I went to cambodia and had this experience I went to tamil nadu ninety days went to france and I did that <tamil>ஏன்:yaen</tamil> singapore leh <tamil>மட்டும்:mattum</tamil> and then we become sixty seventy years old and then we just move on like, when is that change going to happen


and then he was like you don't know lah you just do what you want to do lah, which is very very common knowledge and like motivation and stuff but you know at the core of it, ya when when was the change you wanna take place


when when uh my classmates gonna be like I wanna make film or what lah, I want to change the film industry in singapore and you're right lah, you as the individual need to have that fire that passion too


no matter how difficult it is to just keep going and do stuff, if you want to leave singapore just leave lah like no one's going to blame you for going, you feel like you wanna stay here and make it change then go all out find people want to collaborate and just keep going I spend like


I spent thousands of dollars of my own savings as making films and, getting my classmates on board and all but, the stool that question of like


ya, your your your your class like how is it so far how's the, informing you


ya that being said like it's been three years for me now I can proudly say that, when I started out in the first class in this module called practical filmmaking everyone was very insecure and unsure <tamil>ஒரு கேள்வி கேட்டாங்க:oru kelvi kettanga</tamil> it's such as simple questions has anyone watch this movie always raise my hand is a couple of mother especially those who studied film in polytechnic err


they will err, they don't even want to admit the divorced to film sometimes like because they scared that will be charged for having watched that film at all then I was like you tell me if it's a hollywood mainstream film by this director like ya I've watched this obscure japanese film ya I've watch here and there when I haven't watch I'll just be like ya haven't watch but I'll ask so what's the film about


ah then it goes down to questions like technical questions cardinal composition of a scene or structure of a story and you know production details and all, which again they don't answer because they are scared oh is it wrong if I say that I feel that the hero was very biased like say that it's just an opinion there's no right or wrong but they don't want to say because they are scared is this a wrong opinion but now


the moment I saw that like I took action and like I got all my classmates together is a very very crazy in like, err ya some kind of hail mary move during err is gathered everyone then I was like why you so quiet in class like what's stopping you from answering


JC A-level leh E <tamil>வாங்குனேன்:vankunaen</tamil> the genius or anything just watch a lot of films and


ah okay okay wait are you on speaker, so is your phone recording my voice also I hear you


ya


they didn't put okay as in it's better as long it will be automatic lah like it'll pick up your voice louder than mine it's just easier for the program if it doesn't hear me at all that's why they have this because the first option is both of us in the same room with one microphone


but you know then you have to wait for one person the other person so in this case should be fine lah it's just volume retention


okay so anyway err indian after three years finally uh after all the questioning and talking to my classmates during circuit breaker especially I got everyone on Zoom call then we were like guess what can we do uh like what's our future gonna be like


and everyone started opening up like very insecure I'm not sure the industry I think I'm just going to go into like baking, I was like okay err, but I'll using that like I put together a document of what everyone said like some kind of a manifesto eight pages ten pages all of them saying their plans before coming to CDAM how they're feeling now what they hope for the future discuss with some classmates then we were like what can we do to improve this situation so we started a Zoom talk


like err we watched movies every friday and these are not like you know mainstream films is all the really obscure international world cinema and have discussions after that so more and more people started joining and then err give them said given the assurance that there's no right or wrong


even <tamil>என்னதான்:ennathaan</tamil> confident ah <tamil>சொன்னாலும்:sonnaalum</tamil> he also doesn't really know it's just what he visualises and what he wants so don't feel scared that this person looks like they know so much, and take it from me lah if you think that I'm the smart guy like <tamil>நான் எல்லா:naan ella</tamil> module <tamil>லெயும்:leyum</tamil> A plus <tamil>வாங்குனேன்:vangunaen</tamil> I know everything I'm answering most of the time I'm just super scared like <tamil>சொன்னா யாராவது எதாச்சும் சொல்வாங்கலா:sonna yaaravathu etachum solvangala</tamil> is this opinion right is the right way to direct or you know light the scene


don't feel shy just go ahead, and it's slowly improving we independently did our own short film like in august like group of others came together to do something and we'll probably gonna do something december also this is outside of school, and the future does look more hopeful you know as in world as compared to two years ago


and I think the same can happen for you as well with your classmates it's just somewhat this is what my professors did you just need to do it once and show them the way and they will follow you throughout, no doesn't mean you become that one guy that leads everyone that follow as is don't come together and try something that thing succeeds in some way they will have proof already right now there's enough proof that as a filmmaker in singapore you cannot make it


studio is too tough you end up in Mediacorp and all that, you have to be jack neo even if you can't make money out of making films, all you need is that one film by an independent guys like, and <tamil>சும்மா எதார்த்தமா ஒரு படம் எடுத்துட்டு:chumma ethartthamaa oru padam eduthuttu</tamil> somehow making money out of it then everyone will be like ah there's a way I also want to try


and so when you bring that down to your class level it is, make a film like you know together or like do some anything together where everyone so satisfied with the outcome, you'll find those people like wanting to do more together because they've had their taste of what it's like to you know finish something and see it grow ya it's only eight weeks don't be disheartened everyone's just in singapore don't be shy everyone's like awkward and whatever


like he said be that change that you want to see, so


films <tamil>அம்பது நிமிஷம் சும்ம படுத்தி ஒரு பேர் கூட வரல:ambathu nimisham chumma paduthi oru per kuda varala</tamil> what inspired you to get into filmmaking or media apart from those experiences


(mmhmm)


no lah no pressure it's, ya local it's it's it's just as good towards local content as it is to watch like international stuff if you ask me given a chance I would have loved go back in time and watch more local stuff to better understand


singapore's industry because now we have a lot of ambition YouTube lah <tamil>பாத்து மத்த படம்:paathu matha padam</tamil> lah <tamil>பாத்து நா இப்படி இருக்கலாம் இப்படிதான் பண்ணனும்:pathu na ippadi irukkalaam ippadithaan pannanum</tamil> but there there was this recent Youtube video I watched which was uh don't go for the fish start with the rise


uh facing the video, ah, you see us like uh I I I uh you know claim to be this kind of a filmmaker which is like knows this or knows that definitely don't know enough but I'm trying out all these and I realise


I I should start with the basics don't even do use colour in film like go black and white around it's very interesting to start with and why do I wanna think about world cinema we don't even understand singapore cinema, which is why for my entire, year two semester one I dedicatory to singapore film studies like I took a module err


from singapore studies like the creative industry and then another module on world cinema where I focused my thesis for that module on singapore cinema, and within that few months I watched like all things singaporean I learned all the industries from the the the fifties malay productions all the way till now than I was like ah now I have understood singapore still a horrible play


and then now it's like after the whole split the merger and everything we only resumed in the eighties and houses


it it sort of humbled me in that, for someone who used to ran alone how it could be when I realise the struggles of all the other filmmakers I know whether is eric Khoo royston Tan all these filmmakers who've struggled to get to where they are now where singapore is now you look back and realise


we've made a lot of progress and it's really good that people like us still exist who want to make even more progress, it's just what it takes for one day singapore's industry so I've accepted that I will not be the great filmmaker for singapore by any means but I can contribute to a system that allows for a great film to come out one day then I'll do that


but as my second option lah if it's my first option just do it to make my life easier, ya so


and with TV shows that I get that whole you know if it's propaganda or like other stuff broadcast related PSB values and all <tamil>பண்ணிக்க பண்ணிக்க:pannikka pannikka</tamil> it's if you don't like it then leave if you want to do something about it then acknowledged that