cannot cover, not earning enough, ah


safety health and environment, the <mandarin>第三个第三个:di san ge di san ge</mandarin> skill


eh <mandarin>应该要教的:ying gai yao jiao de</mandarin> eh they should teach you know, project management <mandarin>就是:jiu shi</mandarin> working with people not working with the software or something


oh, !wah!


!wah! <mandarin>这种这种:zhe zhong zhe zhong</mandarin> very very <mandarin>欠揍:qian zou</mandarin> and very troublesome meh, not proactive, eh <mandarin>对你有没有:dui ni you mei you</mandarin> check <mandarin>你那个:ni na ge</mandarin> voice recorder sorry ah interrupt <mandarin>你有没有:ni you mei you</mandarin> check <mandarin>你那个:ni na ge</mandarin> voice recorder <mandarin>有没有:you mei you</mandarin> within <mandarin>那一个:na yi ge</mandarin> sound limit like is it is it high enough <mandarin>会不会太:hui bu hui tai</mandarin> soft


okay ah, while there is in the middle, oh


eh <mandarin>我我很想:wo wo hen xiang</mandarin> try shouting eh <mandarin>因为我都没有没有:yin wei wo dou mei you mei you</mandarin> try <mandarin>到她:dao ta</mandarin> hit <mandarin>到:dao</mandarin> red <mandarin>的那个部分:de na ge bu fen</mandarin> , okay never mind never mind, later lah,


just one straight line straight out of it one one red one red line all the way, oh, ya correct one vertical red line straight lah, oh


oh okay okay


!wah!


!wahpiang! eh <mandarin>这个都没有没有:zhe ge dou mei you mei you</mandarin> will provide content at all ah, !wahseh!


oh !wahseh!


!wah! <mandarin>这种人:zhe zhong ren</mandarin> hor <mandarin>都没有意见没有主键:dou mei you yi jian mei you zhu jian</mandarin> eh, question <mandarin>到他有:dao ta you</mandarin> opinion


what what's his, !aiyo! <mandarin>还这种:hai zhe zhong</mandarin> quality


oh she ah, I don't want to name people


but I don't know whether she may take the same modules lah <mandarin>他是读:ta shi du</mandarin> economics, no like maybe <mandarin>你们不是有:ni men bu shi you</mandarin> crossover one <mandarin>讲:jiang</mandarin> minor mah, maybe


oh then <mandarin>不会:bu hui</mandarin> lah, okay


oh


that's why, high high tension in what way


!wah! <mandarin>太极:tai ji</mandarin> ah <mandarin>太极:tai ji</mandarin> , I push you I push her you push me, !wahseh!


I think he's just booksmart the I mean she she is just booksmart lah, she just don't know lor, how to manage <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> project


but <mandarin>好过都没么都没有做到是:hao guo dou mei me dou mei you zuo dao shi</mandarin> mah


but better than not doing anything lah at least you got try what <mandarin>那两个:na liang ge</mandarin> do the even did they even try especially the one who did for particularly


so okay lah at least she got write in her idea, once in a while


need to have one leader, then <mandarin>因为你跟另外一个另外:yin wei ni gen ling wai yi ge ling wai</mandarin> guys <mandarin>是吗:shi ma</mandarin> you and the other guy is like a coleader mah, then <mandarin>你们:ni men</mandarin> core leadership right <mandarin>他们会觉得你们是一个:ta men hui jue de ni men shi yi ge</mandarin> clique then they will be less they feel more integrated intimidated to approach you so you'll need to have a clear leader than the person have to take from the leader


ya lah ya I know I know I know but my point is <mandarin>你你跟那个男的不能太:ni ni gen na ge nan de bu neng tai</mandarin> close, I know you general close but you all cannot like appear like you all ganging up against them


or <mandarin>你问他:ni wen ta</mandarin> LOL <mandarin>有没有玩:you mei you wan</mandarin> Dota


oh it's like one sided lah one one thing is close but the other one don't think it's close but different perception ah I think that character also helps to helps shape their own perception


(mmhmm) interesting, wait wait wait wait what, !wah! try to play play careful


actually actually <mandarin>讲到这些东西我在:jiang dao zhe xie dong xi wo zai</mandarin> university eh eh <mandarin>不一定要在:bu yi ding yao zai</mandarin> university but <mandarin>我想做的东西有一件事:wo xiang zuo de dong xi you yi jian shi</mandarin> I really want to do right is to learn video editing


if you tell him you can make video like make really interesting blog videos hor you can even apply it on YouTube eh


ya, he is like the backstage backstage backstage guy, but he get


he is the one who does the main job but he doesn't get a credit !wah!, actually


actually it depends on my mood


scenery and food is good but must have scenery food and the people you need must have force have all three, like not just the food or the scenery lah with the food together with the people or the scenery together with the people


a little bit, I have <mandarin>自拍:zi pai</mandarin> but then I never share like I share with few people, ya


(mmhmm) personal preference lah, programming ah definitely programming, like <mandarin>我要那个:wo yao na ge</mandarin> technical hardware <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> course I still haven't to apply


!wah! eh <mandarin>免费:mian fei</mandarin> two thousand dollars leh, ah


oh


python ah


colon


oh, colon, that's why I am going to that I have, almost completely zero knowledge


oh read but <mandarin>为什么:wei shen me</mandarin> so all the while <mandarin>你们都:ni men dou</mandarin> study was school then how come you take exam in another school


oh okay okay


C plus plus


okay lah


C plus C plus


oh okay, this one


these one <mandarin>我要问我的:wo yao wen wo de</mandarin> cousin <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> cousins <mandarin>在:zai</mandarin> business


!wah! sneaky, I can attest to this


polytechnic polytechnic the business student <mandarin>也是蛮:ye shi man</mandarin> snake, did they bring they bring the snake they bring the snakes too, the sneaky ability to to university


oh ya correct


I feel a bit attack


polytechnic, what you really apply ah NIE <mandarin>的那个可以:de na ge ke yi</mandarin> NIE


that's weird


oh <mandarin>就刚好那个:jiu gang hao na ge</mandarin> course, then they they don't really want to apply also


perhaps perhaps, ya


!aiya! they must say this kind of stuff one ah then, they must always say this kind of stuff ah ya


where got such a rumour


no aircon one


consider very cheap for indian, !aiya!


but <mandarin>我知道那个奶你不可以:wo zhi dao na ge nai ni bu ke yi</mandarin> lah, !aiyo!


and you david samuel of you all to eat some indian food


so <mandarin>吃板面那种:chi ban mian na zhong</mandarin> lah , then err <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> #muey fan#


next year, next year august


oh <mandarin>还有这么快你:hai you zhe me kuai ni</mandarin> next year <mandarin>就进:jiu jin</mandarin> year three Liao eh year four ah, year four or what, then <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> graduate <mandarin>的时候:de shi hou</mandarin> okay definitely year four <mandarin>的时候:de shi hou</mandarin> so okay <mandarin>我:wo</mandarin> year two lah


(mmhmm), when he got C three year he three year degree


eh <mandarin>不是:bu shi</mandarin> three year degree three year national service, four year national service, what


something like that


oh okay


OCS, oh


like how many years, but <mandarin>你被绑你要赔那个:ni bei bang ni yao pei na ge</mandarin> bond


as in not paid about you need to serve the bond


(mmhmm) typical ah I I hear the intake also


ah <mandarin>对对:dui dui</mandarin> you saying the bonus right the bonus is around, !wah!


ya it is <mandarin>可以买:ke yi mai</mandarin> motorbike mah


they sold malaysia there (ppl), for transport


ya got it already


technically, I complete four hundred hours lah around wednesday but I stretch over , cause I macam like you know


I took half day half day, ah, ya !alamak!


two and a half months around there, ya ya I just need to complete four hundred hours


true true then macam how to say ah, like was just getting into like the hang of it then after that like, Kobe , I don't know


uh it's not project it's just basically more case management


in a way macam same thing as , what I did lah for my previous job


we do lah same around the same lah it's more intense cause, err it's residential areas so it residential not institution lah, then macam apa itu my office is literally macam just beside the units where they live so macam kalau dia orang nak apa-apa then they will come over knock on the door but it's not twenty four seven lah


ah, I don't know if I want to say , , okay lah


I don't know


because sekarang macam buat split teams [kan] then it's like there's two offices we're like we're not supposed to cross then we handle macam cuma two units each lah so kita punya outside unfortunately macam banyak


err like we face shortage of manpower lah macam cause this the err, cannot remember her title but the my supervisor she's actually she's in charge of two programs lah macam two services so dia kesian gila lah like she has to run back and like she has to toggle between both


and at that time bila phase two right she couldn't meet the other program so she has to run everything at, the from the office my my office there lah so , so uh so then macam then she also has to handle the clients [kan] the office the the program that I am in and then the other program she err she also has to attend to the matters there lah so macam double work


ah so she kesian ah, ah, then baru sahaja recently another staff left ya cause, it's not pasal itu lah like I think we don't want to take up social work then like there's just no one else to go


so he decide and he he decided he wanted to try out I think corporate world so leave it be lah , ya


I think so, I think so not too sure, , okay lah, but ya


err yesterday I meet up with the ED lah then dia tanya I like kalau do you prefer to are you okay to work


she added lah if I want to come to the company and work then macam I don't know what program lah ada satu program ini dia !hey! just started up their office is in Simei which is like great lah macam very near my house, finally somewhere I go is near my house, I realised my tempat kerja dan tempat semua macam jauh gila ya


like at least at least ah fifty minutes travel , that's so sad, not


full time lah macam err how to say ah they ask me to apply tapi macam a bit weird lah macam I was telling one of the colleague macam the colleague there lah the staff there there was like, I apply right then I turn up at the interview


then uh what macam so weird cause they already asked me a lot of questions and they already know me , and then I think the ED uh my my the staff there cakap uh the ED is the one you are interview lah


then macam like so weird the ED is actually my technically my supervisor lah then then she on the first day I came in for my macam meet up session dengan dia and my reporting officer, then they ask me a lot of questions then it felt like an interview


then she ask me if I want to continue working lah at the same place yang I buat internship itu then I macam err not sure lah like a bit too far lah but, I guess it makes sense lah for me to macam continue there cause I know the staff there I know like half the clients there


then macam in terms of macam you know blend in with the team gitu like they know it's going to work , ya,


ya ya no issues lah ya I think


I think internally adalah macam issue sikit lah cause dia dah macam cause ada change [kan] so macam the difference in apa power dynamics I guess much macam , my the reporting officer she's actually supposed to be macam less


err hands on but I think because of the split teams and everything and then she couldn't meet with the other program [kan] so macam dia just suppose head of the homes is actually macam a bit restricted lah


!haiya! he's like he's the one yang actually main person to do the homes and everything but because the assistant, ya she's the assistant director then she is there and then macam like dia dah lama dengan kita lah she already do this kind of this job so macam when she comes in and station [kan] the office gitu [kan] so err I think he feels a bit restricted lah


ya ya can tell sikit lah


I would say that she overrides him, uh then macam like ya then macam at the end of the day macam like I dengar two things ah like I think dia pun macam segan and come up to me and then talk to me about certain things and then I macam uh then macam at the end of the day dia cakap lah like I'm not trying to supervise you


but this is how it's going to work lah this is how I we used to do it lah so macam I macam caught in tau, ya ya I know, so like uh macam am I talking too much


ya macam like this client he came back from hospital then dia pakai taxi then he kept asking lah


err oh last time, err the assistant director did this err blah blah blah and then she always say if I need help can come and ask ah then


ya you can just give the money just collect the receipt and then log it in lah, so then after I uh I got the message then the head of the homes came and then cakap lah like okay this is for to build independence why does he not have enough money to pay for a cab fare then I macam like what what is going on


ya, like dia orang punya procedure in a way like try to solve it internally call, then I was like but the chat I thought the chat is also meant to be used internally


ya so like macam I felt a bit err and then still some more like sometimes, , I guess macam dia orang treat me a bit like staff there lah which I understand ah macam like


I don't know how they treat their other interns but I think bila yesterday too when I met up with my reporting officer and supervisor she said like I she she thinks that they like I'm treated a bit like staff lah macam they they allow me to do a lot of things


I guess so good and bad lah


uh macam as a intern you realise that what you doing


like what is it there's no bad impact lah on the client at the end of the day ah, so macam two and a half months actually quite short lah, like ya but


but at different locations ah under different program, , I think


uh so I think this company macam purposely they take up err


in the social service ya, ya ya in the social service sector so that macam not train lah macam like you know uh


work etiquette ah work etiquette macam like organisation after awhile macam a lot of organization macam structured a certain way, and then macam there's like cause I know lah macam like there's policy there's guidelines macam there's KPI to meet gitu so macam like I roughly know lah


ah then it's also under AIC so previously my previous job they are the funders ya, so err, ya so I kind of know lah AIC punya mentality where they go they a bit


how to say, err fast and err presentable results


I guess like macam when you work with people it's not easy to see a change very fast [kan] ya so macam some of them macam resistant some of them macam they are forced to go into the service because of what they they did are like


or macam the society or the community macam thinks of them that that there's an issue with them so they report lah to government or AIC which is AIC lah can trickle down to AIC usually lah cause they always report to MP lah


that's your MP, so then anything MP raise up lah then blah blah blah nanti in the end turun to the organisation so then they expect organisation, so macam be miracle lah miracle workers then kita cakap dengan dia orang lah it's not possible they don't see it as a problem you see it as a problem and most of the time dia orang pun tak nak someone to come in and interfere with their private affairs


it's considered private affairs what uh, so in the end you have to get consent from them, and then macam how to say


they cannot, cannot be that macam one case worker has to hold maybe around, err I think last time apa eh eighty cases


then, ya actually ya actually initially they wanted according to my reporting officer lah they wanted I think hundred I was like kalau hundred one case sahaja can be like besar gila because of their complications is are they


ya and then ya that's why, someone who is very minimal macam susah gila it's because like it comes and goes ah each person kadang-kadang this period they are okay some periods not and then also macam seasonal you see cause sometimes like


I I think depending on the timing like macam chinese new year or christmas timing right they will there's like explosion of things going on cause macam I think macam


how to say macam it ties into their, emotions and what happen during their period of time and usually christmas chinese new year spend with family right usually is like a big major events for them, so dia teringat-ingat the families ah or what how is your relationship with their family lah that kind of thing


ya, ya correct correct, ya, you ketawa


supposed to


supposed to ya, uh no no, you have to record down ah, but I think macam they try to push lah macam reduce the amount first of all and then second it cannot be that macam is singular case work lah it must macam kita buat group work or something considered under the KPI lah because macam FSC


it's try lah they try to lah maximum I think thirty to forty lah but then nowadays ah cases macam complicated you the person itself is not alone [kan] then you have to look at the family like the community setting


and I was like, I don't know I I think I'm not suited for FSC at all


I might lah I I will I will look through the Simei one is a new program it it seems like macam a a duplication of some of their services so macam like, I ask them ah what is it about this new program that you want to start uh new siting cause macam I think they try to ask different people to build up the team from like previously the different programs lah


so it sounds a bit, like case management same thing but for youths so then ah, so then I ya so then I was like asking so what's the difference lah because last time like this kind of services still the same and


I mean it's duplicated in different services and then second of all is that it's just basically you asking the, uh people I think can't remember where, err I think the cases all the cases in the east to be transferred lah so then what's the macam main difference lah between the other programs


so it doesn't ya it still sounds very macam apa exploratory, ah so I don't know lah what's going on


, oh no no there's no need to itu I have to I apply the usual route lah


uh ya so, as as long as the place is position is empty lah, , ya cause I just


uh like, I just like finished my practicum I just like submitted my last assignment , ya, and then in two weeks time I have like exams which I like I haven't even started studying


, ya ya, no no no no it's okay it's okay uh


my line is very small I don't know if it's clear or not but I'm holding the the the the mic ya near to my mouth but sometimes I move lah


so cute , so maybe when I take a break from studying lah I start applying for a jobs , that's so sad


, it's not that lah I macam don't know where to go yet I don't know if macam SUSS is the place for me to do masters like macam after one year one point five years of doing grad dip [kan] macam like


is it a good place to start like to study lah macam their profs are good and everything but macam ada I don't know lah what I want to take up the extra curricular modules and then if I want to take up continuing masters in social work


uh I think I macam orang gatal sikit macam I cannot, like, I went to psychology then social work then after that like should I try something else


(uh huh), (uh huh), (hmm)


, I I, think what about your current job yang yang part time how is it so far


(mmhmm), , of course ya


(mmhmm), (mmhmm)


, ya


, , true true uh


oh can ah you, can manage them you have to, be you have to, basically they can sense when the person can be taken advantage of


so you have to be firm and you have to macam how to say, you first of all [kan] on the get go right, you try not to be the, approachable macam like you don't be the too nice person is usually is all strict first


yes, then afterwards macam like then they say you strict right then they respect then you come in and be nice , ya, ah you stay true lah you stay true to what you say and then they will respect you, it's the little things lah you cannot macam force your way into it like macam like


punishment promises, whatever you say you keep to it then they will respect you even macam as young as two they will remember especially kids ah they will remember,


ah,


ah, is it yesterday the, yesterday or, okay


(uh huh), oh no


(mmhmm), (mmhmm),


, (uh huh)


(uh huh)


(uh huh), !alamak! teruk lah ya


(uh huh), ya


ah, ah yes,


(hmm), , I don't know I I want to do it that time then I think I had to cancel my appointment cause siapa eh can't remember so I had it was a a clash then I tried to reschedule then after that circuit breaker then my mum pernah buat ya ya actually I want she okay sahaja


so I wanted to go again then I terlupa then a lot of things happen [kan] then ya you know [orh] this year is like a very happening year for me


Gambas, tempat itu jauh jauh [seh] for me


what time, oh how much is it ah


(mmhmm), okay


is it not the darah one right, oh


oh okay okay I think I will, I, she, uh cause I think cause


I got eczema [kan], ya so she asked me to go for the darah one she went for the darah one also actually, ya


ya ya, so I don't know lah I still haven't gone for it so, err, you my apa eh


I can't remember what my mum told me tapi dia cakap macam you can you kalau nak ikut sunnah itu you follow which day eh, monday wednesday, ah, no monday ke thursday tak ingat but definitely not friday ya


I don't know , ah but she went for it but macam yang this one this lady dia buat itu the female one she she she lives in Tampines ah then she she part time major


ah, I tak ingat err


they not so expensive I have to check the name ah, I book I book the itu then I, I I cancel, (mmhmm)


standardish I guess so,


(uh huh), (uh huh), ,


ah, okay okay understand


ya, ya,


okay , ya


ah


okay, uh okay, okay maybe you should are you okay to like go for the hiking on tuesday


okay


!huh!, uh no my mum okay sahaja lepas bekam ,


okay can, at least you don't transcribe yourself I I was apa itu part of my assignment one of it is macam to do process recordings lah then I kena record myself with a conversation with a client


oh I was like uh, it was so cringey then I heard myself cause it's macam I pakai mask [kan] and then I have to macam analyse lah everything that I do with the client then I was like so uh I hate this I hate this like interview so long thirty plus


I was like uh,


I was like don't you think my voice sounds like a man when you play it over cause my voice is not


lower register lah basically , ya, ya unless I'm like super excited to talk then I can go quite high, I think one


then I was like err, ya,


you sound like what my cousin Inhan ,


but usually isn't it the the people with like deeper voice like you have a wider range , err I guess not like we're going to sing any time soon


then will be like kenapa hujan siapa nyanyi , oh no it stopped already at my side


ah okay lah good good good uh


no ah it just sounds normal to me ya I I don't know lah macam ada ya, I think I don't know lah macam something to do with our ears like usually when we


listen to our, voice macam I think it's the channel that they go into so macam when we hear our voices during our


ah, , we're gonna die


what that's so funny


can't imagine we apa itu sekarang what maybe they gonna do some space travel [kan] tak sampai ingat who is it ah the guy yang faizal tak suka itu no, that's, ya but just ah yes


yes he wants to do like space right space travel or something like that right, is it him


you see, I don't know lah okay lah he got some admirable traits, I guess and then it's like he's from a I think, single I mean single mother household


I if I recall I think so lah, I don't know was it him or someone else (ugh), cannot ask me who about celebrities background ah


!huh!, ya I did uh !aiya!


, ya ,


okay okay can lah I don't mind cause technically macam it's either, that areas or like it's my area like which is far for you,


actually macam ya in terms of connectivity macam cycling I think in the east is better


(mmhmm), (mmhmm)


ya good, like uh,


uh, eh there is a dekat Tampines there's a eco green park town, it's near to


ya it's near to Tampines interchange actually,


I can send it to you but the the pictures are nice I think like I've


she goes to how's Afiqah ah, ah


no, ah when was she married ah


ah eh, eh I is this the guy yang you were the one that ya the one that you macam not certain is it this one


okay, ah okay okay


I, okay , you never met the guy is it


, okay ah nothing ah


eh is he our age


okay, okay now now where are they staying


ah,


ya lah it makes more sense lah habis itu ya


, outside you and the mother-in-law macam okay lah bermesra gitu but


I think there might be some tension, ya


, I think macam like entah what would what would I know also


at the house then macam like the opposite doesn't hold true if like the guy moves into the house like you still have, like you don't expect the husband to like do so much of like housework or anything is macam financially sahaja lah kasih duit


ya ah ya


, , one person stay at home like you still need that double income somehow


ya, like I also don't want to send like any potential kids to infant care or childcare cause macam at the end of the day the kids how they turn out is supposed to be your responsibility [kan] but then also


is uh, like you shouldn't segan and not ask for help and then my then my parents dia orang tak nak macam they want to have their own lives lah they don't want to be like you know, babysitters so


it's like the only other options I can see is that I macam berhenti kerja sekejap lah jaga anak and then ya and then potentially you lose


ya so, so then also like your CPF is lower then you basically rely on your husband ah and then macam a lot of people tell me lah macam oh what uh don't rely so much on your husband try to be independent macam like what is going on


ya, ya, ya


I know, four months four months


ya but at the end of the day macam but if you is good lah kalau you only want to have like one kid sahaja but then kalau you want anak kedua ketiga then when is it going to stop


technically kalau nak masuk playgroup lah it's a nice timing to masuk balik kerja and then, you send the kid to play group lah then even then even then it's not full time you but not sure lah ya so do you want to work part time and then


(ppb) I don't know [lah] <malay>macam</malay> singapore <malay>punya</malay> culture not flexible yet, I think ya


K and K got that, you can put your earpiece back on, !yay! okay oh my god can you imagine I cakap !yay! pula nanti dia kena transcribe lagi takpe takpe okay


so anyway how has your work been


oh oh okay okay okay, how long was it eh the practicum


!huh! so fast, but still two and a half months pass by quite cepat actually [kan]


oh eh the area dekat dekat mana though, oh ya okay ya ya ya no no err what was I, what was I going to ask oh but then macam was it susah to like


suddenly, you know you you took on like new cases atau existing cases that they pass on to you gitu macam tak hard to adjust


oh


oh, oh no


, , uh apa apa itu nak cakap


, ya that that's why, ya


ya oh so, they offered you full time is it


(mmhmm)


oh tapi padahal they, oh


, ya so macam your experience is good lah from the oh, and then macam environment besides environment wise macam your your bosses and your supervisors and your teammates all macam okay lah like okay like no issues


that's good that's refreshing,


, oh


oh ya ya ya ya ya that's awkward, tidak apa lah kita apa itu take turns


go and at least resolve it internally


ya ya that's why


wait that that that's a good thing [kan] or,


ya, are there ada interns lain or you just seorang intern like or like got other people macam doing their practicum there also


I see okay okay wait the interns usually macam fresh grads or, all macam budak masters or like budak degree macam you know same level as you


oh okay, or people with experience lah so they don't have to train so much


independent


, I see


LOL


ya, ya that's true


oh that's a lot


that's why Siao


ya, oh so it's not macam it's not necessarily a happy time for them kind of thing


I mean you mean in a single point at a single point in time you need to have like a hundred cases, like at at any point in time, oh so not like say this month I have ten next month I have another ten that's crazy hundred case how do you keep track


oh, ya


what I hear from a lot of my social worker friends, you know ada this issue


so you're not gonna take take up their


oh okay


ya,


it's okay keep your options open then macam explore you know macam lain opportunities when do they need to hear by


uh okay tapi tidak ada tidak ada macam deadline for the application, ah okay okay


ah, ya faham faham totally faham


, I mean I got exam but I don't think that is comparable, am I am I talking too loud like do you do you feel like I'm talking very loud, no right, cause tadi bila I ketawa [kan] dia punya line macam besar


, the phone the mic, ya see when I laugh it kind of, jumps up a bit so like oh no sorry whoever's transcribing I'm so sorry okay


oh okay ya I totally understand macam the need to take a break I mean, that's where I'm at I mean that's not where I'm at I'm kind of past that but ya totally understand, ya


make sense ya make sense I mean you also still, studying [kan] lagi berapa lama before you finish the when you finish your masters


, ah ya ya understand I feel like I'm there also I'm thinking macam you know I really don't mind


considering a different industry I mean at this point like my previous job was doing what I liked, but like it was, dream job kind of like like it had all the characteristics of what I wanted to do like child psychology in uh you know in a clinic setting in a clinical setting and everything and then I got to like


you know do creative things do research still and like do projects and stuff but at the end of the day like it was a horrible time


it's been good I am teaching, okay is macam zoom is surprisingly so much harder than tak zoom you know like it's so hard like you have to take note of everything like macam you have to make sure everyone is paying attention you cannot


talk you cannot macam how to say cause zoom if two people talk at the same time then you cannot hear one of them so I must be careful not to interrupt the teacher who's leading the particular lesson cause like when I, eventually when I'm no longer a trainee I will we will alternate like one will be lead one will be co-lead so the lead will be the one going through the activity and then after the activity is done


switch lah so then the other the co-lead will be the lead so the co-lead basically what we do is we just look at everyone make sure nobody's like sleeping or like playing with the virtual background or like, there was a kid last week who kept pressing the clapping and the raise hand button and I was like oh my god


and then macam the way you talk to them actually on zoom [kan] you don't command as much like authority or respect I feel so macam the tone macam they taught us we cannot be like can you please you we must be like I need you to stop, doing that thank you kind of thing and it doesn't come naturally to me lah cause I I I have a habit of being like can you can you err I need I'll be like err oh sit down okay or like err


I need you to be quiet okay or like can you be can you be a little quiet actually I'm I'm like okay I can that one they they want me to like not say that okay be more firm because otherwise you know they are they are they are in the comfort of their own home so they feel like they can do whatever they want lah


ya and these are young kids like from kindergarten age to like primary school age so, ya it could be a little bit, practice


be strict first , ya that actually makes sense that's what my mum said also


ya I mean right now they hardly recognize me also because I'm not their regular teacher and then macam I get a bit sub ah subconscious a bit conscious bila I punya camera on so macam when my camera itu on so I boleh nampak my own videos I'm like hate this makes me very macam self-conscious gitu lah


so tapi bila I off I am less self-conscious I can be less, err I can be more strict gitu tapi I tend to not because kita have to senyum for the entire lesson senyum for the entire forty five minutes to an hour so macam


make sure they are muted got question unmute must mute chat disable then sometimes when you ask for answers for them to type the answer in


kind of thing you know so it's like (ugh) but then okay lah they are cute and I'm getting the hang of it I think tapi ah last week I did not teach because oh so on thursday I injured my back


, no one week ago so ya so one week ago I tak warm up lah it was really stupid I forgot to warm up and then I just angkat berat then I felt like macam a sharp pain in my back then I was like oh no


so I thought I thought macam okay okay is it because I'm sore asal asal macam susah ini I feel like everything feels heavier and more I I feel like everything was sore I thought okay maybe, you know my period's coming, tau like I'm just tired not enough sleep so I just continued but then it continued to


be sakit lah then macam I really messed up like !aiya! something is wrong lah this not normal this not like normal soreness it's like probably a sprain or a strain on my back tapi I continue whatever I can but lepas I balik I had a class lah and then during the class I told them I will be lambat sikit because


I am moving very slowly so be like my neighbour macam this slow then I I drop my soap and I couldn't bend to pick it back up , kind of thing so macam so when I joined the class they were very understanding sorry I joined the class usually kita will jumpa about half an hour before the kids come in so I came in about twenty minutes before the kids come in lah so it's still okay


and then macam I told them about it and then eventually I think after the class she told my how to say my not my supervisor lah she told my, superior about it not the like the boss boss but the the girl who was like training us and everything so the girl told me that saturday tak payah so macam you have to clock in a certain number of hours for training before we become like a you know a full time like teacher


I'm not coming and then turns out that nobody came uh okay lah like out of the six of us only like four people eh two people came ya so that were only like three people including the coach


ya then after that I thought okay just rest lah macam take this opportunity to rest so I rest tapi lepas itu macam tak baik-baik ini pun macam tak baik-baik and then macam it hurts when I sneeze so I thought !alamak! ini macam not macam bukan tak normal [kan] ya


ya so I told my coach semalam yang it hurts when I sneeze so she said she's worried that is a nerve thing rather than a muscle thing so I started to panic and then she was like oh maybe you should go sebab kalau pergi GP the only thing a GP will do is give painkillers


ya bekam can help you with that I takut sakit tak have you tried it before


oh did she say if tak sakit eh ,


uh yes but in that case do you want to go with me I'm going on monday, I think like there's, you free [kan] dekat Gambas that's where my other gym is


there's, uh dekat Sembawang there got another branch this gym has another branch in the east I think my the coach that has is qualified to do like the massage and the bekam is dekat will be at the Gambas one on monday


err she asked me if I can make it at two thirty then after that she belum reply I so I tak tahu belum confirm ah tapi , I'm hoping that !aiya! I can go, did she reply me nope not yet


so no reply but I read on on the website is like sixty minutes and then macam what she will do depends on your condition so macam either I mean you can ask for her to bekam lah if you that's what you want macam mana otherwise she will uh base it base her like you know on her professional opinion whether you need a massage or a bekam or like some mobility work ah


with whatever hurts or what the issue is, tapi I think she buat bekam angin if I'm not wrong cause I think I saw a video of her doing bekam on instagram can send you, no it looks like the angin one like ada macam after she put the cup like she pull something then the thing macam suction


go for the darah one


, oh so the dia macam slightly different how to say


ah okay


oh, I see okay good that I, don't then


, oh the dekat rumah dia is it


oh then hers is how much


oh I ada macam hundred around there standard right that's like standardish I guess,


, ya cause I was thinking if I went to see my sports doctor like the doctor that I was seeing when I was playing rugby [kan]


movement she she she's legit like the the one to go to but she's, uh tapi ya she she's a private doctor lah so very mahal like she sees a lot of like national athletes and stuff so her rates are like consultation sahaja hundred plus then macam if you go x-ray everything then it just adds up so like


ya just a lot (ppc), ya that's why I'm thinking, ya so I'm thinking about I'm thinking massage atau bekam dulu lah I mean kalau it's not like, so doesn't really need like a doctor


you know I mean I can still move it's not like a herniated disc or anything like that, ya, no ah abeh sekarang sekarang my kaki sakit dah lah belakang sakit kaki sakit because I pergi gym


for training yesterday [kan] then uh certain things Aqilah lah like macam you know she, uh macam certain things she made me take it easy which was frustrating for me to take things I mean it it's not frustrating to me to take things easy in all other aspects of my life but when it comes to lifting you know macam I feel like my ego I have like macam like it's frustrating lah


like all the progress I've made gone so macam the the weight the weight the group that I was doing it with so we were we were progressing at the same pace so they are moving on to like eighty kilos ninety kilos yesterday and I was like thirty kilos


I was struggling because macam nak angkat sahaja sakit then the moment I felt like that stabbing pain I'll just like I scared lah so it's like cannot cannot cannot cannot, ya so she also like told me to just


ten ten ten ten ten ten but twenty times, ya so it's like an endurance thing it lasted like forty five minutes it was horrible


oh really ah tuesday I still have like today tomorrow monday three days for me to recover plus I'm going for massage on monday so unless the massage makes like more sakit then I'll let you know


so kalau kita I mean kita hiking right we're not it's not like we're gonna climb a mountain or anything it's okay if we're just walking it's good good for you movement is good I think for like you know aches and pains


oh my god my laughter is so cringe nanti orang transcribe, ,


, oh that is so


oh my god, I cannot imagine I cannot imagine and then like


you know , it's just like (ugh) gross, way lower than you thought


oh


and doesn't like fluctuate too much like like you won't go like super high , , ya ya ya, ya


the first time I heard my voice as in I feel like I sound like a preadolescent boy I kind of feel like I sound like a boy when I listen to it by myself my god I sound like a ten year old boy or something uh, cringe


ya I feel like I sound like a kid I think Inhan sounds not like older than me I feel, I don't know I feel like I sound like a kid I don't I don't sound like like a girl I don't sound like a like a lady or a woman I just sound like a like a like a boy


wider range of, that's true that's true imagine if we start singing you know right now you know


, it is raining right now is any super heavily actually near my house, oh mine like stopped just now and now it's started again


, ya how does my voice sound like to you like does it is it do you think it's low or high or medium or does does it sound like a boy


just sounds like me lah I mean like you heard you heard my okay okay


, yup yup, it's like from the we are like listening to our voice from the inside I feel I think something like that lah it's something like that so rather than but but


but but like say you you are listening to my voice as it passes through like, the air like not [kan] so it's a different ya so, I mean if maybe if we're on the moon we would sound different like so if we were on the moon and we


took off our our astronaut gear and we started talking we'll probably sound different ya but those few moments before we die if we have conversation we probably would sound completely different


no , chris evans oh chris evans I thought cause love love space or elon whatever his name is elon musk


err ya ya he wants to capitalise off another yet another thing , I wonder if we can talk about these politics I mean it's not all politics I mean it's not even politics it's just (ugh) celebrity


, I guess


is it I had no idea I thought his late dad left him like buttloads of money ,


oh anyway apa itu so, where shall we where shall we go on tuesday


which which interest you the most I feel like the train track ones is cute but then I'm just a bit scary looks a bit scary, I don't know eh macam the jinx tak lah


, I mean mana-mana pun ada so it's me lah , ya but most of them are so far for you I think hillview is like the how to say dekat situ ada banyak trails I feel cause that's the nature reserve area


, your areas ada ke other trails macritchie is it wait no Sembawang area


oh


ya that's true actually like if you want to cycle but well I can't cycle and now I just announced it apa nak cakap eh okay we can look at more sites lah think got more options tapi yang yang at the the one I sent you to kita ada the lower pierce reservoir park


#ang mo kio# park, so this one is easy cause it's just walking, and then there's the #sungei buloh# wetland reserve need ini dekat mana eh Kranji hopefully doesn't rain though you know speaking of


ya and then there's, dairy farm nature park, oh this one got stairs don't want malas they were like don't forget to wear comfortable shoes because you will be climbing some stairs


and this one quite, oh eco green


oh tapi is it like a like a mainstream park then everywhere knows about, like would it be very is it a park or is it like a a hiking trail like an actual hiking trail


I know Afiqah Afiqah you know she take some nice she goes to some areas you know,


eh were you staying at our table, , she got married uh I if I'm not wrong she got married at quite because like err


I guess circuit breaker kind of disrupted her plans a little bit and I don't think they wanted they want to shift the date too much so I think the period that she got married in right, they only allow like ten people


and then she had to wear like a face shield but she bejeweled it lah like with her, like with her veil and stuff it was really cute , that she was she's always


talking about, I don't think so, oh is the is the one that her long term the one that always eh ya the one that's always been with her I've I think ya and he's really he's really nice really nice so I think


I was talking about someone else , I don't know but ya, , okay maybe I just don't remember but ya,


not officially tapi like you know sometimes when we hang out and then like he meets up with her when we're going home I thought he fetches her and stuff like he's nice lah he just seems macam very shy a bit macam shy lah I mean like a group of girls then kita [kan] kecoh so I think maybe it's a bit awkward for him but ya


think he's just shy but he's very like supportive of her and everything I think that's really good, ya and very macam considering he's quite young he's very macam independentish macam financially independent like ya like matured lah matured


nope, think he's younger than her, ya


, I'm not sure I think her place, I think because like when I see her her pictures and stuff she seems to be at home so I think, because err I assume her house I mean her house is big [kan] so I think and her room is big so I think macam he moved in with her lah


makes more sense, and padahal and I think in a way not that it always makes sense for the girl to move in with the guy until they can find a house tapi macam is easier pakai tudung leceh you know if you were like


oh, ya ya ya I feel like sometimes it tends to be like that because macam how to say the mother runs the house some sometimes lah like you know in most situations like you know she if she's a housewife especially then macam if the wife is also like a


I don't know like you know you might you know feel a bit ya I get what you mean tapi macam less of an issue kalau if the guy moves into the house cause he, I don't know like he goes out to work anyway so he's not


I mean unless they are both working ah then maybe, I don't know I don't know what I'm saying but ya, what would I know,


oh like the dad is more chill lah usually


uh ya that's true I feel like macam there's that expectation lah double standards a bit ya, and also like it's a culture thing also lah like oh you some mother-in-laws are not happy if you are working you know they'll expect you to be


not working ya because like oh perempuan kerja apa sahaja perempuan kerja you know sometimes they say things like that ya so it's makes it tough


ya especially in this day and age and in in living in singapore and stuff


, ya


ya ya, ya I ya


that's true also that's true


ya ya ya ya it's like a double it's like a you expect you say that and on the other hand ya, especially macam your in your industry that you are working in like things change very fast, so macam if you come back after a few years then you're like uh you know some cause maternity leave is not enough like


just the maternity leave okay say it's like three months right around there is it not then after that four months okay then like is a four month old baby someone have to take care [kan] then it it might fall to the parents that's not fair so macam if you want to raise the kid until the age where the kid is like relatively


you know not independent independent but you know like of you know of the age where macam dah besar sikit then at least school age school going age you know, ya then when when he's at school or she's at school then it makes it you know slightly you have more time lah to like uh you know when when he's at school we're at work so your kid won't be like left alone and like someone has to take care of him or her


ya that's true


can you hear me, hello, yeah, !wow! the internet hung for a while


but all good all good, okay so let's start the the code switching, so !hey! how have you been man


, but nowadays the the jobs are like, err <mandarin>那种:na zhong</mandarin> contract contract roles are usually for like three months six months like that right


(uh huh), (mmhmm)


(mmhmm), oh okay


, , so <mandarin>你你这个工作是:ni ni zhe ge gong zuo shi</mandarin> mainly over the phone because <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> work from homes mah


[orh], I see I see,


(mmhmm), oh, (uh huh)


I see, ,


so y'all use the website as reference lah then <mandarin>可以帮个忙帮你们做这种:ke yi bang ge mang bang ni men zuo zhe zhong</mandarin> customer service


, can handle lah,


oh, that one,


right they come they come in like you know


but a lot of a character building this job


but I think I think <mandarin>做了做了两个月这个一阵子的话你会觉得:zuo le zuo le liang ge yue zhe ge yi zhen zi de hua ni hui jue de</mandarin> whether suitable for you or not lah at the end of the day, because it feels like this kind of customer service people call and rant at you


you you get what I mean like they they're finding this they're finding problem with the system, I feel and not like trying to better themselves, because err my my my job


my job previously also a bit like that lah government stuff lah but well moving on from that at least now you're better


find fault, ah okay


the rejection ah, okay okay then so now you are just err spending days err, just more relax <mandarin>比较轻松一点:bi jiao qing song yi dian</mandarin> then <mandarin>随时都可以起来吃早餐这样比较安心啦没有这样:sui shi dou ke yi qi lai chi zao can zhe yang bi jiao an xin la mei you zhe yang</mandarin> stress lah


oh okay okay understand understand, (uh huh)


ah okay, I see which are which restaurants there


, doing your job, , understand interestingly when the fly bys happen here <mandarin>你那边你听得到:ni na bian ni ting de dao</mandarin> mah


so I can hear it from you all, from your ear piece, err, but err I I am doing the same thing likewise <mandarin>我现在在我的朋友的:wo xian zai zai wo de peng you de</mandarin> restaurant <mandarin>做工做他的:zuo gong zuo ta de</mandarin> waitering <mandarin>的工作他是那边的:de gong zuo ta shi na bian de</mandarin> chef lah


so he's a, very interesting story lah because ah he he and his partner <mandarin>他跟他的那个:ta gen ta de na ge</mandarin> partner err partner as in the restaurant partner lah not his other half


they're both born year eighty seven, eh sorry <mandarin>一个:yi ge</mandarin> avenue eight <mandarin>一个:yi ge</mandarin> avenue seven, yes so they came up with the restaurant name called avenue eighty seven


, interestingly they opened up during and after the circuit breaker, so, that one I'm not too sure but <mandarin>他开开的那个:ta kai kai de na ge</mandarin> plans <mandarin>他没有真的跟我讲因为:ta mei you zhen de gen wo jiang yin wei</mandarin> err like I think


he was out and about this kind of businesses , got played out, got fail also and things like that lah so actually when we caught up after after <mandarin>我们从:wo men cong</mandarin> perth <mandarin>回来之后我们:hui lai zhi hou wo men</mandarin> err <mandarin>有:you</mandarin> meet up then <mandarin>讲讲几句话:jiang jiang ji ju hua</mandarin> then <mandarin>有喝:you he</mandarin> drink beers and all that lah so err he was just saying like


err, he's trying something out, the risk is very high, and <mandarin>他也是自己本身很怕因为:ta ye shi zi ji ben shen hen pa yin wei</mandarin> because he has already opened up like a couple of restaurants and he left, those err restaurants already, so err going in he's a bit


err apprehensive, apprehensive, but err, I worked there once, I think, one of the dinner ah <mandarin>不懂哪一天我忘记:bu dong na yi tian wo wang ji</mandarin> Liao then err he he kind of showed me his restaurant ah


like I didn't even talk to the hiring manager the waiter all that he just show me his restaurant then after that he sent me back home lah because he stay avenue seven , err but


same same like likewise I I feel the way the same thing you feel because I I also did F&B last time, I mean, to me it was a long time ago to you maybe a long time ago you still in school ah <mandarin>在上学:zai shang xue</mandarin>


it is it is


actually <mandarin>他的:ta de</mandarin> ya like what you said ya <mandarin>那些:nei xie</mandarin> err customers err for <mandarin>哪些服务人员:nei xie fu wu ren yuan</mandarin> y'all are hitting a lot of people and the demographics just too wide already lah, you any any any tom dick and harry can board a plane same likewise anyone who can step inside a restaurant


so I mean does


I agree I agree, I'm sure I mean we have different err customer facing experiences lah you know I have done sales before right, so in fact body language speaks more than


what the person is speaking, and I'm sure you know that too lah you probably learned along the way also, so you can't feel the, the frustration or you can't feel the you know the awkwardness and things like that, throughout via zoom is just pure awkward


on the phone is just pure awkward yeah, but it's okay at least you have something like <mandarin>暂时性先:zan shi xing xian</mandarin> Tahan <mandarin>一下:yi xia</mandarin> lor, I mean at the meantime you actually liked doing that that job you see


do you know previously I was err doing sales for a edu tech company, yeah


not really a roadshow but like a a promoter kind of role, where if people walk by <mandarin>他:ta</mandarin> then <mandarin>他们要问:ta men yao wen</mandarin> like eh <mandarin>这个:zhe ge</mandarin> platform <mandarin>是什么:shi shen me</mandarin> <mandarin>要怎样用:yao zen yang yong</mandarin> err then we will just err sit them down then <mandarin>我们:wo men</mandarin> will <mandarin>讲解就:jiang jie jiu</mandarin> run them through the entire program


and then we'll try to pitch and, close a sale from them, then I realized , the kind of persistency required for the job mah I don't have, I really don't have, and


err I would I would say so, like, I can take no for an answer, you get what I mean, so as a salesperson no is not the answer you know


I I'm a bit different lah in that sense, err


yeah I can sell it to you if you want but I can't the the difference of this salesman is right, their persistency level is so high, you you get what I mean for if you are selling like a <mandarin>飞机:fei ji</mandarin> model this kind of thing it's a product you can't sell product


you gotta sell, the gaps, the pain, so maybe ya I can I can figure out a way to sell <mandarin>飞机:fei ji</mandarin> if you want me to sell <mandarin>飞机:fei ji</mandarin>


it can using using artificial intelligence right it can suss out the weaknesses for the students you know


so they can fill up the learning gaps for them but it is very autonomous it's very mundane, it's not as interactive as err what, what the application can be lor


colourful stuff <mandarin>那种比较:na zhong bi jiao</mandarin> interactive <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> maybe problem solving <mandarin>这种感觉:zhe zhong gan jue</mandarin> hor they will not come back to it lah so I think that's the difficulty of , actually err <mandarin>吸引那些孩子们来用因为他们只可以用:xi yin nei xie hai zi men lai yong yin wei ta men zhi ke yi yong</mandarin> like <mandarin>一两个月:yi liang ge yue</mandarin> then


parents !huh!, they can buy, but, so end up


yeah, I mean for example if it's a high level of study right now, if you are given such an AI I think you probably use it for, our fourteen papers lah, which is very very good it's very very good but like I say lah very mundane lah but the way we study also very mundane mah so you know it's it's a much more targeted practice lah so I actually believed in the platform


but I just can't err I I don't feel like, , then I I actually, tendered then I quit, at the start of october


so <mandarin>从从:cong cong</mandarin> err the start of the month <mandarin>到现在我都还没有没有做到什么工:dao xian zai wo dou hai mei you mei you zuo dao shen me gong</mandarin> lah but besides <mandarin>去我的:qu wo de</mandarin> friend <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> restaurant <mandarin>做工:zuo gong</mandarin> then <mandarin>那些:nei xie</mandarin> adhoc <mandarin>的东西:de dong xi</mandarin> lor like next week next week <mandarin>我们要做那个:wo men yao zuo na ge</mandarin> adhoc <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> job mah


so, funny thing is, oh, okay okay


maybe I, it's your own course anyway we we we're we're probably gonna meet up soon so <mandarin>那时候我们:na shi hou wo men</mandarin> meet up <mandarin>时候我就:shi hou wo jiu</mandarin> share <mandarin>多一点那些:duo yi dian nei xie</mandarin> what I can share with you lah because I cannot divulge too much I did sign a contract not to say too much about it


have you have you


, ah okay


, I see


, nah I guess I guess is the relative lor you combine the benefit and the sustainability when you chose to do it, the mismatch


I have no idea, [orh], dungeons and dragons,


correct


, I understand


no I totally understand


oh, then,


!huh! <mandarin>做:zuo</mandarin> aviation management <mandarin>要做这种:yao zuo zhe zhong</mandarin> video editing experience


ah, oh


why <mandarin>不好意思不敢看:bu hao yi si bu gan kan</mandarin> don't dare to watch it anymore because you are too embarrassed, (uh huh)


oh , okay okay, but then that's something that, you have done before, then <mandarin>你有那个经验:ni you na ge jing yan</mandarin> at least you can bring on the table to actually help them lah


those those are different those are a part of it is like marketing also that's why it has those hooks and, those stuff that the usual the usual things that err it will be included inside lah, yeah


<mandarin>我是这样觉得如果你去做工:wo shi zhe yang jue de ru guo ni qu zuo gong</mandarin> then <mandarin>没有什么:mei you shen me</mandarin> purpose <mandarin>的话:de hua</mandarin> then <mandarin>有点:you dian</mandarin> <mandarin>有点:you dian</mandarin> Sian ah, that was that was me when I was doing the sales for the edu tech err company


we start at about eleven thirty at Popular, so , I mean <mandarin>睡的时候差不多十二点:shui de shi hou cha bu duo shi er dian</mandarin> then <mandarin>九点多起来:jiu dian duo qi lai</mandarin> so <mandarin>每天:mei tian</mandarin> got at least nine hours of sleep that kind of thing because the work hours are are actually during your awake time


correct most people awake time which also means that you'll be burning any quality time, that you can spend with other people lah, so that was the that was the sacrifice, but then <mandarin>我觉得每天就是这样:wo jue de mei tian jiu shi zhe yang</mandarin> we work five days


a week but sales mah sales actually when <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> service <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> customers <mandarin>这些没有真的一个:zhe xie mei you zhen de yi ge</mandarin> fixed timing <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> so customers <mandarin>打给你就:da gei ni jiu</mandarin> just <mandarin>回答:hui da</mandarin> then you just try to answer right, so in the end I think


then in the end Dong <mandarin>不了了两个月就就辞职就:bu liao liao liang ge yue jiu jiu ci zhi jiu</mandarin> quit then , but I feel I feel a lot better now wellbeing wise <mandarin>没有那种压力:mei you na zhong ya li</mandarin> then <mandarin>比较:bi jiao</mandarin> free


then I can actually focus on looking for the jobs that I really want, because err if my my me me and some of our our guys our mindset is if you are


constantly looking for a job that you know what you want right, then you try not to take anything adhoc [orh] sorry too temporary along the way, five hour shift <mandarin>这种快快结束那种:zhe zhong kuai kuai jie shu na zhong</mandarin> still not so bad, but then because of such err jobs that you take up right then <mandarin>你没有办法去准备:ni mei you ban fa qu zhun bei</mandarin> for <mandarin>你的真正的:ni de zhen zheng de</mandarin> interview


then <mandarin>你不要:ni bu yao</mandarin> screw up <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> interview, ah so it has happened to me lah, then I am actually like, like was feeling feeling pretty like sucky, that's why, these experiences has brought me through like a stand still


that's why I decided to stop, working for awhile, yeah, but actually looking forward to like day to day lah <mandarin>因为每天起来:yin wei mei tian qi lai</mandarin> err


keep me updated keep in the know so <mandarin>如果有一天有一个:ru guo you yi tian you yi ge</mandarin> recruiter <mandarin>打给我的话:da gei wo de hua</mandarin> I won't be blabbering nonsense lah at least got some something lah, yeah


so, , if it recovers


about say three years most of us would have, err been able to kind of built a career for ourselves already back then, and I don't think


settle down the work first mah, correct, the the foundation and everything so


then I think it's a bit difficult lah, because I gave them hell in the dialogue, I was I was very harsh so that's that lah


, so just looking forward to actually educating myself, enriching myself at this point in time, still, to at least help me lah but where is your this err this job gonna be


reporting


, aviation, scratch


, , formalities


but !hey! congratulations


, , well it depends it depends


character


, oh I see I see


so <mandarin>他们打算要:ta men da suan yao</mandarin> stay <mandarin>这样:zhe yang</mandarin> lah,


oh one six only, (uh huh), but it's you, oh, that's quite, well that's that's the current market I guess


it's current market,


, , well you see


I guess I guess most of it I think they're also looking for like you got work life balance kind of err approach lah, like what you said like you don't have to <mandarin>养家:yang jia</mandarin> whatsoever but then <mandarin>你这个理由你可以有点多点时间去想可以找一点:ni zhe ge li you ni ke yi you dian duo dian shi jian qu xiang ke yi zhao yi dian</mandarin> <mandarin>找一点比较适合你的工作:zhao yi dian bi jiao shi he ni de gong zuo</mandarin> your job because at the end you still want something that gives you


some time to exercise and workout right, I think that's is that's important for you lah, well I'm I'm hoping to have a a deal going on because previously I met my friends from my ex company


so that's the very exhausting thing that has been


err blocking a lot of people's career path, honestly it's not something that, who knows what's going to happen right but, because they are not willing to take a chance with you lah basically


because they are not even inside it lah, so it's it's worse than a restart for me


wait until <mandarin>我跑了过去:wo pao le guo qu</mandarin> also at the meantime I keep focusing on the good things that I've taken away from the jobs I mean <mandarin>我自己本身也是差不多五个月两个:wo zi ji ben shen ye shi cha bu duo wu ge yue liang ge</mandarin> job mah, honestly


what I feel like the things that I take away from all those jobs are still valuable experiences lah, err so don't, don't question yourself too much because the more you question the more negative thoughts come out


more like ask yourself, what have you gain from this job, err what kind of person you prefer, working, (hmm) your work life balance and stuff like that so you you need to lean toward somewhere that,


you know what you want, and then hopefully the job has some fulfillment and then you're you're probably bend on lah, cause now I think job market <mandarin>有太多太多:you tai duo tai duo</mandarin> different jobs Liao then


then <mandarin>你做做做做完一个没有那个成就感没有那个:ni zuo zuo zuo zuo wan yi ge mei you na ge cheng jiu gan mei you na ge</mandarin> fulfillment then at the end of the day you feel like you are you are just dragging ass to go work and things like that lah, yeah, eh are you are you planning to study or anything


, I see I see eh but then <mandarin>你你要读的:ni ni yao du de</mandarin> degree <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> degree in what though


air transport management where is that from which uni, SIT ah sounds familiar eh, no as in like, okay because Wanjie is taking up a degree also


I'm not sure do you do you talk to him, maybe you guys should just cause he intends to study and then maybe <mandarin>你们可以:ni men ke yi</mandarin> meet up to have a quick chat on how


don't have, or maybe he has but he can, study again, but you just just ah drop him a chat lah because honestly, half term <mandarin>我回来:wo hui lai</mandarin> I think


I had the chance to meet a lot of people, especially <mandarin>我我我:wo wo wo</mandarin> tender <mandarin>了之后这个:le zhi hou zhe ge</mandarin> october <mandarin>我一直在那边:wo yi zhi zai na bian</mandarin> meet <mandarin>人:ren</mandarin> lor meet <mandarin>来:lai</mandarin> meet <mandarin>去:qu</mandarin> then <mandarin>就:jiu</mandarin> caught up with a lot of people, , so


especially now during your downtime, I highly suggest, to meet people network a bit more and then to actually put yourself out there so you actually feel better also lah, it kind of help for me lah


so at least err you know you share your issues err try to get help, and then see how you can move on with a certain direction, and also listening to people's experiences can help also mah,


it is he's doing something aviation related for sure cause he told me about it then I told him why not lah I mean, if you can afford it and then there's time on your end, then err, go do it lah


err, SMU ah <mandarin>靠近:kao jin</mandarin> SMU <mandarin>那边:na bian</mandarin> meet them for <mandarin>那个一杯咖啡:na ge yi bei ka fei</mandarin> so I met him and peter and stewart


, yeah, quite interesting ah then that time still got meet, uh, liz con maju, !aiya! #swee cheng#err jenny Minkiat <mandarin>他们:ta men</mandarin> standard meet up for err for makan lor


first roughly we we we got the same same outlook lah <mandarin>我们都觉得:wo men dou jue de</mandarin> like <mandarin>如果你找太多:ru guo ni zhao tai duo</mandarin> err part time work then <mandarin>他会连累你的:ta hui lian lei ni de</mandarin> full time <mandarin>的那些:de nei xie</mandarin> interview, so <mandarin>那些那那些我们有点:nei xie na nei xie wo men you dian</mandarin>


specific skills wise, really err can be over the shot nowadays so whatever that's why that's why I I say whatever value that you feel like you have taken away from any job right you can include it in your resume


that could help, like <mandarin>因为你说了这个这个这个:yin wei ni shuo le zhe ge zhe ge zhe ge</mandarin> political job they also found you to be hardworking to be like you know err zealous in what you're doing lah the enthusiasm is there so it's more than just academic already what you get where I'm coming from


okay


, that's a that's a very very good plus point for you at least your resume lah err yeah at least you can know


, you still you still gonna try right,


, not applicable


ya ya same, , so in fact you you were you were with


err your cabin crew for after your poly days lah, during, oh


ah [orh], cannot meh


the like <mandarin>做这个:zuo zhe ge</mandarin> diploma <mandarin>的时候:de shi hou</mandarin> then <mandarin>你做这种:ni zuo zhe zhong</mandarin> internship then your training all this kind of thing wouldn't be like taxing on the time frame or not how long is this internship


, okay


yeah internship, !wah!, allowances everything also


, (mmhmm)


oh


I understand also the pattern gotta be spaced out, and then they they won't call you back for all the what's that what's the last minute call up what do you call, !wah! standby yes !whoa!


oh, I see I see, , then did you, oh


okay then you continue <mandarin>你继续在那边做:ni ji xu zai na bian zuo</mandarin> lah <mandarin>你:ni</mandarin> continue working there and then, you, , so one year when you're in school another year you are out of school kind of thing


oh forgot about army


, okay okay, ya, okay lah still will learn things mean recently <mandarin>我刚刚:wo gang gang</mandarin> meet <mandarin>我的:wo de</mandarin> army friend <mandarin>而已吗:er yi ma</mandarin> then <mandarin>讲:jiang</mandarin> job opportunities then tell me mentally where is he at and stuff like that


well, , I know my friends, issac issac oh


LOL, ya so, I mean it's a it's a fulfilling job lah but, I rather do it part time


but like I said lor sales, ,


you know what I mean


(mmhmm), no all these all these jobs are long road jobs bro, you know what I mean you as in the longer your name is out there, the higher array of prospect will be in a sense lah word of mouth and everything


, insurance also, no lah I mean you you have your own group of err, clientele that kind of thing


, that,


it depends it depends I guess, , but then again there are still err female customers ah so you can't really


say that


I get what you are trying to say


, I I know I get what you mean I get what you mean it's okay, I understand what you mean, ,


, which is I think very difficult


!aiya!, eh oh ya <mandarin>忘记问你你去的那个:wang ji wen ni ni qu de na ge</mandarin>gym box <mandarin>在哪一间:zai na yi jian</mandarin> ah


what what gym is it, no no no, yeah I used to work there, no lah that time that time never


, oh, oh chinatown oh my friend goes there Mobulus chinatown


ya, that's why I'm asking you, yeah, so, so not sure <mandarin>他去那一间:ta qu na yi jian</mandarin> but <mandarin>我懂他去:wo dong ta qu</mandarin> chinatown so <mandarin>现在问你去哪一间:xian zai wen ni qu na yi jian</mandarin> lor, yeah


err randall, not sure if you know, I think he goes there alone err his wife prefers F forty five


yeah, I will uh let him know that you go well it's always good to network he's in err SAESL


err it's the engineering company subject from SQ he does err servicing for rolls royce engines, , he wears glasses


oh, yeah probably I'm not too sure, , , yeah, then at least I'll be I'll be seeing you on monday right


since we're doing the, err <mandarin>还没有:hai mei you</mandarin> leh currently just add into <mandarin>那个:na ge</mandarin> group chat leh then <mandarin>等:deng</mandarin> lor just wait lah


because it's a bit , difficult then if I can work ay my friend's restaurant before that it will be good too, but not sure if not sure if it's face to face


, , , nowadays ya, okay I can stop the recording already


, ya gonna stop it now do we need to clap or anything


okay, I stop Liao


K I started it already you can clap anytime ah,


yes, I can hear you, I should move my iPad nearer, okay


K K, yeap all good, okay so, for me ah like <mandarin>我这几天:wo zhe ji tian</mandarin> like don't really


have much to do lah I recently left my job, err at the at the customer service place, so ya lah I left prematurely like


ya so for mine is <mandarin>三个月:san ge yue</mandarin> three months but then, err I only did two months only but then


cannot lah like, ya cannot like I, I wake up every morning right, like I just <mandarin>准备:zhun bei</mandarin> to get scolded by them only, for like the rest of the day, have eh it's okay cause I work for a government agency


so, we have to be, you have to act like government officers lah but the thing is we are not paid like government officers, and we are technically not hired by the


so, you know like it's like they outsource, our service from my company so the government, the government sector outsource it to my company then they hire us to work for the government sector then actually when they told us right when they hired us they didn't tell us it was for the government


so like, yeah I wouldn't say it's baiting but then it's like where they tell you it's the government they never say like have to achieve like a very high service standard lah but because we know we are, applying for customer service job we all have customer service background


but the thing is, most of us had face to face customer service experience not over the phone, so


it's <mandarin>只有:zhi you</mandarin> over the phone <mandarin>而已:er yi</mandarin> not mainly, like only over the phone, and then and then because it's the government, job right like everything very rigid like they very <mandarin>死板:si ban</mandarin> ah, then


honestly, honestly right I was surprised like their website is very good, so meaning like , I worked for enterprise singapore lah so the website right actually is super resourceful like as a SME owner right if I go into the website and I really read everything carefully ah I don't need to call the hotline one


ya so actually when I assist customers right or callers right I'm actually on the website also, so my answers I find from the website one, cause the product knowledge is too wide right we are trained to only <mandarin>看:kan</mandarin> from the website


not like, remember everything ourselves if <mandarin>我们全部记得这里记得:wo men quan bu ji de zhe li ji de</mandarin> like they can't <mandarin>请到一个人:qing dao yi ge ren</mandarin> right that can memorize everything one


ya so mainly the people that call is like <mandarin>那些:nei xie</mandarin> err aunty like those slightly older business owners so actually to be honest I don't mind those calls those calls are like the <mandarin>容易:rong yi</mandarin> one, like the


the <mandarin>难:nan</mandarin> ones right, ya cause the aunties usually they are just slow they don't know what to <mandarin>按:an</mandarin> they don't know what to, they don't know what to look for like cause it's computer what so I just have to like <mandarin>慢慢一个一个:man man yi ge yi ge</mandarin> guide <mandarin>他们去:ta men qu</mandarin>


then thank then thankfully they still can <mandarin>读:du</mandarin> english lah like they can still <mandarin>读:du</mandarin> what is on the on the website if not that one I if they totally cannot read english I cannot help, cause that one they have to ask someone to help like their <mandarin>孙子:sun zi</mandarin> or like their <mandarin>孩子:hai zi</mandarin> ya cause if I totally


ya if I totally, but then those are the easy call so that one those are long calls but there are the <mandarin>容易:rong yi</mandarin> ones, the hard ones right is like those boomers


and like those, maybe like, those people that lost their job then want start business, like basically around like, okay lah it's around your age lah actually I think, ya like the very <mandarin>急:ji</mandarin> one like they call you you are not that <mandarin>年轻:nian qing</mandarin> lah then


then they call in then they very, they're very strong willed lah like they always think they are <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> one, ya then they call


ya like they call right to ask a question right it's like they ask ah llike they ask [orh] I think A A A


then <mandarin>你打来做么:ni da lai zuo me</mandarin> then <mandarin>你不要打来:ni bu yao da lai</mandarin> lah


ya, ya ya lor so it's like what I'm trying to say is they are calling in to to how to say ah like to no no no they are not calling to find fault for sure but they are calling to get the answers they want and then when they don't get the answers they want they not happy


yeah they want you to tell them they want you to tell them <mandarin>你是对的:ni shi dui de</mandarin> and not tell them [orh] actually <mandarin>不对:bu dui</mandarin> or they they want you to tell them [orh] can you can apply for this grant you will get the money but they don't like to hear that oh uh sorry <mandarin>你不可以:ni bu ke yi</mandarin> ya you <mandarin>拿不到那个钱:na bu dao na ge qian</mandarin> err you actually not eligible


yes, yeah


not ya lah is actually to be honest doing the job is not stressful for me it's just frustrating, yeah and and because I I I still like okay cause the thing is I have always told myself that I like to do customer service jobs like


I I lean towards like, the service line lah, but, after this job, like, cannot okay it's not it's not the customer service line it's just this job


because I still work in a restaurant like I still work there regularly every week and then I love that job that job to me I go to my friends restaurant and I told her actually <mandarin>你还我钱:ni hai wo qian</mandarin> right


like I come here for free money yeah I tell her that, cause the I work at err homegrill eh homeground grill and bar like near #boon keng# it's a it's a very small restaurant that serves charcoal grilled food then they only open for dinner lah so I only go and <mandarin>做:zuo</mandarin> like five hours a day in a shift and I don't earn a lot lah like <mandarin>八块钱:ba kuai qian</mandarin> one hour only but then


ya it's like ya the fulfillment comes from actually the fulfillment okay lah I won't say fulfillment lah but then the job is easy and then it's it's easy and I like ya okay got fufillment okay then like that in this sense got fulfillment cause I feel like I I got ya lah I made someone's day lah like by very simply doing to me nothing yeah doing my job


ya good then the fly by then the fly by also can sync


, , oh, oh, seven


oh, but the plan but the plan is to <mandarin>开张:kai zhang</mandarin> before circuit breaker is it


like they had the plan, oh okay


a bit ah like <mandarin>很像:hen xiang</mandarin> last time, for me F&B okay to me I felt like my cabin crew job was also a bit like F&B, ya that's why so I feel like


yeah, I realised <mandarin>很不同:hen bu tong</mandarin> also lor like , like cause like the call centre job is not face to face then I realized how important it is to see someone in the face to solve their problems


yeah


yeah, yeah


I think I heard you say before


don't have the drive to like,


yeah, but is it because it's edu tech but if let's say I want you to sell <mandarin>飞机:fei ji</mandarin> eh, like like like airplane models or


or like flight sim, but,


uh, okay so so yeah so okay so then I get it cause I I thought it's because you cannot <mandarin>卖:mai</mandarin> the edu sales system, like the edu tech sorry edu tech system I thought it's because it's the edu tech but okay it sounds like it's not the system it's the it's the personality the trade


(mmhmm), ,


I think that hasn't changed


is it,


[orh], , oh yes


!wah! but this but this e-learning thing called okay it's cause the next job I'm starting right actually <mandarin>是:shi</mandarin> to <mandarin>帮一个:bang yi ge</mandarin> polytechnic, develop <mandarin>他们的:ta men de</mandarin> e-learning, yeah, it's my own course


yeah it's my own course, , ya ya but the thing is I don't know what tools I have to develop <mandarin>给那些学生:gei nei xie xue sheng</mandarin> feel like


because the thing is it's like CBT, you know like our CBT in err where err in SFC is super bad, like it's it's damn bad lah so I feel like


but the thing is based, (mmhmm), okay I never see before but that job that I did right that with tele performance the


the call centre job, , they had a one day on-boarding, and then it was using e-learning it was actually using err, err software not software like a computer e-learning platform right that SQ uses it's the same


it's just that but the lessons right, is different so I think the lesson is developed by the company lah not the not the platform they just put on a platform to track people whether they got do the the courses or not, so that their platform is the same as what SQ uses


but then the lessons that was put up right !wah! I was so impressed eh, like because I have gone through SQ CBT of course my in school I have went through my own school's CBT right like e-learning, but then <mandarin>我没有看过:wo mei you kan guo</mandarin> like


!wah! <mandarin>一个:yi ge</mandarin> e-learning hor, like it's so interactive like the one I did with this company I was so that's why I was so impressed by this company when I first went for their on-boarding, but !wah! but the work experience very bad, yeah


yeah, but the e-learning was very good and it it it it wasn't much it actually was it's almost like playing like you know battle on, if you remember like dragon faber like last time lah like like when I was a kid then maybe you you were a teenager


then, , yeah, yeah but it's like those kind of game right that don't have much movement lah like you have to click a button for the character to move kind it's not it's not it's interactive


but it's actually not that high tech, ya it's not that high tech it's not like !wah! it can predict what you want to think or what you want to do it actually is you have to click something for something to happen but I think that's good enough right for e-learning


cause at least it's not it's not as at least it's not like you know we go YouTube and we search like AE videos, but then at least this one is ya this one like we can it's interactive so I don't know what resources they will give me to make the e-learning because when I went for the interview right so my my lecturers interviewed me first then they <mandarin>问我:wen wo</mandarin> like oh err if I'm interested to develop e-learning cause content wise confirm is not I come up with what cause the content has to come from my lecturers I just give suggestion and I refined what I feel like will be beneficial to student cause I was once their student and probably some of the materials they will be showing me right is <mandarin>我看过:wo kan guo</mandarin> one


and I have been through that same mod lah, so they want me to err, value add as rather to change the the module so when I heard that it sounded quite like a simple thing to do


do you have video editing background, like really don't have the only edit video editing background I have is when in poly ah like when we need to make a video


and that is like what maybe once in three years maybe once in two years, aviation management, so <mandarin>我没有那个:wo mei you na ge</mandarin> experience, ya so <mandarin>没有:mei you</mandarin> actually ya you will think it's damn <mandarin>夸张:kua zhang</mandarin> right but then have eh like cause okay but I guess it's a good thing cause one of our projects right was to create a music video


to show airport processes, yeah, so we had to select a a track, and then make a music video !wah! oh my god I actually I don't even know if I dare to go and watch that video lah if I can find


is damn cringe ah like <mandarin>很:hen</mandarin> yeah, is damn cringe it's like I don't know what made us do that we go to the airport at like twelve midnight kind or ten o'clock just so nobody right then we literally dancing in the airport


legit, a bit lah ya llike, I realize it's actually not that hard lor like it's not they're hard to to edit a video very simply lah of course like you wouldn't be like you know your


your your YouTuber level now, but then it's not


yeah, so , we see how how it as in they hired me lah it's just that I want to I hope okay I think the difference between this job and the job that I had done which is this customer service and the dorm one the difference is this one got purpose literally got purpose and it's not like uh I go to work at nine end work at nine kind of job


which is, like <mandarin>坏:huai</mandarin> is like I might not be able to see like the end of the day lah but the <mandarin>好:hao</mandarin> is at least, I feel like there's a drive there is a <mandarin>冲劲:chong jin</mandarin> to like want to do what you're doing and not like wait like <mandarin>五点半放工:wu dian ban fang gong</mandarin> like that


yeah, , ,


!wah!, yeah yeah, m


and your own time lah,


yeah, but <mandarin>你现在是在找:ni xian zai shi zai zhao</mandarin> finance <mandarin>的工作:de gong zuo</mandarin> like you planning to


ya you need to <mandarin>从建:cong jian</mandarin> like the career, correct, (hmm)


, oh


, my my teaching job as in the e-learning job, it will be as it will I will be working from home so it's quite <mandarin>容易:rong yi</mandarin> the time


is very flexible like I'm thankful that is because, even though the school is the one that is hiring me my lecturer is the one that is control err not controlling but they are my boss lah, like because I'll yes I report to my my lecturer so


thankfully I had quite a good relationship with my lecturers when I was in school lah so that's why they chose to hire me, , because there's actually how how it was supposed to work was the school was supposed to find people for the course


and not the course find people to recommend to the school to hire, it was actually the school looking for people to join and then they were like you know <mandarin>分配:fen pei</mandarin> different people to different courses, but I think my course did it a bit differently they wanted to hire


alumni because number one they want to give people jobs like in in this in this climate cause our industry and my as in my course, will be people ya that doing is doing aviation now and a lot of us are out of job lah so I think that's one thing they want to do and secondly is to find someone they know so they don't really need to interview from


from scratch, and then they know and they hire students that they know, they used to know that works hard so that you know they don't need to, supervise you


to do the work, ya so I think that was what my my lecturers wanted to achieve so they recommended, me and this other guy lah to the school and the school, was ok but they still have to interview us


yeah, yes and I hope okay the thing is until now right I start to <mandarin>怀疑:huai yi</mandarin> ah is it my problem, or the jobs problem that I cannot fit, into the job cause eh in five months ah to resign two times is not like normal leh


and I resigned two times in five months, and both jobs are contract jobs leh like both are three month contract jobs but I didn't compete the three months only three months eh <mandarin>我三个月我都:wo san ge yue wo dou</mandarin> Dong <mandarin>不:bu</mandarin> Liao, so


ya so the so I started questioning lah is it like, I have problem so I actually went to ask people I asked liz also I asked her whether is it eh like is it my, my personality or my outlook


got, (hmm) like got <mandarin>问题:wen ti</mandarin> lah, then actually the first job the top job she, she uh she how what's the word, she advised me to stay, even though she know like it's like damn <mandarin>辛苦:xin ku</mandarin> to do


but she said it's like you said character building it's like to learn to handle such shitty people in a <mandarin>公司:gong si</mandarin> ah, cause, like, it's always a new skill to learn mah it's nothing to lose lah in a sense but I told her I'm losing my sanity ah


like that point in time so ultimately I did leave that job and then this job is kind of like similar but this job what it what was triggering me was not the, the, the people that I work with is the people that I work for that that I need okay it's basically the job itself for this is the job itself


that is is triggering me the previous one was the people not the job, ya so I guess got difference so when I left this job and then when I talk to my colleagues right, in this job right actually we all feel the same way it's just that I got lesser to lose they got more to lose if they don't do this job


ya so I'm more lucky, that <mandarin>我没有父:wo mei you fu</mandarin> okay <mandarin>不要讲我没有父母亲养:bu yao jiang wo mei you fu mu qin yang</mandarin> I have <mandarin>父母亲:fu mu qin</mandarin> but I don't need to <mandarin>养:yang</mandarin> them, at at my current at my current stage in life


so, like what the heck, ya freaking work


office hours five days a week, and I earn thousand six leh, there's life ya that's the market yes it's the market, but then okay so my current job the one that I'm gonna start doing right actually pays exactly the same but the hours are so much more flexible like I don't need to work eight hours straight


like it's very objective based lah they told me so I don't know how hard the work will be eh cause they say until like actually it's not that hard, and they're honestly not paying me that much to do a very hard job, I feel that, so if the job ends up becoming hard right then I need to reconsider but


don't know lah like I believe they wouldn't hire they wouldn't spends okay cause you know, I don't know how the job market how bad is the job market but I still feel like, they were still you know match, the money they are willing to pay to what they expect


a bit lah at least it's like you don't buy this call centre job right they only pay me ten hour, we feel like, err it's a bit later for what we need to know and what and the customers you need to face, but then honestly speaking right this shop is quite it's quite date like the course out of ten calls


similar cause like you can call right then they ask one question you know exactly what to tell them already, so it's not that hard, ya so I feel like maybe this are also won't be that habit but what I like about the shop is the flexibility lah like I don't need to


but you can go to the gym at five o'clock if I want to I don't need to lion of this job I have to wait until the seven o'clock slot then you can go and several coastal very hard to pull, ya so, I like this part of this job like his


yeah I think I will die eh


[orh],


, yeah


yeah


, yeah, ya so I think I got it I think I, like I got it, the best way possible lah cause


like the <mandarin>将来:jiang lai</mandarin> kind lah cause <mandarin>我觉得:wo jue de</mandarin> like if I go and work now, three years right I work correct like I can earn the money for three years but I cannot find a sustainable and suitable <mandarin>工作:gong zuo</mandarin> to do


cause the thing is I only want to do aviation, but then I can't find anything aviation now, and then the only job that can value add to my flying next time right, if I can even think of anything right is something to do with aviation


then if I can't do that right then these three years will be wasted, and I don't want to waste this three years so I told myself okay lah maybe go study cause anyway I don't have a uni degree and then this pandemic made me


cause I have been looking for jobs lah and it's either they want <mandarin>大学:da xue</mandarin> or they only want O level


but then, very little, then I cannot apply for the <mandarin>大学:da xue</mandarin> jobs but when I apply for the O level jobs right !walao! eh the <mandarin>工钱:gong qian</mandarin> is like them <mandarin>低:di</mandarin> ah, cause like O level qualification is very low eh in singapore it's like the minimum lah basically N level is the many is the minimum any singapore singaporean must have not say must have will have then !wah! if I apply for those jobs right it's like this kind of pay lor


but I cannot apply yeah but I cannot apply but I cannot apply for for the uni jobs even though the job scope right is so simple eh like I see the job scope ah it's like I confirm can do one but the requirement is degree


actually I still studying air transport management lah, yeah, SIT lor


, it's very new the course two years only, he doing part time is it, or have or he haven't start I never talk to him about uni


oh, oh intend ah !woo!, so maybe he also doing eh <mandarin>对:dui</mandarin> Wenjie no degree meh, oh, I think he have eh


yeah yeah I'll text him, , (mmhmm)


okay I'll <mandarin>问:wen</mandarin> Shunjie


, yeah yeah that's true, ya cause him as in I wouldn't be surprised if he said he went to go and <mandarin>读:du</mandarin> that that course


yeah, he confirm can afford it, I'm actually very surprised that I see him working at the airport I very surprised eh like when at first when I saw him working then I'm like !huh! you working


okay lah but he's only human ah, ,


okay,


actually actually for now I'm just looking for for okay cause I think my goal now ah is to get into the course I mean I don't think I will have a big issue to <mandarin>进:jin</mandarin> that course because of my I think I I have no problem proving to them that I want to study this course I mean I spent two years of my life in an airline and then ultimately ending up with kind of no job now I think that is enough evidence that I want to be in this industry ah and from what I study and what I used to do ya like if I go for a a other than aviation err degree I think they have they have and every right to doubt me but if I will go for an aviation degree interview and if you look at my resume and you still cannot be convinced right and I don't know who else you could they can convince them


that I want to study aviation, yeah, yeah, yeah but but I want I really want to get the scholarship cause like when I first went to my dad and my mom tell them I want to <mandarin>读大学:du da xue</mandarin> right !wah! eh my mum against it sia


then I'm like okay lah fair fair enough, I like fair enough so I thought like can go and apply for <mandarin>奖学金:jiang xue jin</mandarin> but then !wah! like I think now also very hard to apply for <mandarin>奖学金:jiang xue jin</mandarin> like I don't know what they are looking for and then cause I I have


a hiatus from like you know all the school thing all the CCA for like two years right, I don't know, how would the school react, or like will they use my, poly accomplishments my secondary school accomplishments will they take that into account


when they are deciding for, yes I will still try I'll try I will like fight until the end lah cause, I I it's not like I cannot afford to go to uni now can like have to very <mandarin>辛苦:xin ku</mandarin> but but it will be so much, easier and more stress free to you know not have to worry about the money


to study ultimately, and then I feel like I have what it takes to get the scholarship it's just I don't know whether these two years that has been, I think use the word wasted very very harsh, but, that time I spend these two years yes it's like very it's like these two years in my life suddenly like <mandarin>被:bei</mandarin> cut <mandarin>掉:diao</mandarin> then nowhere to paste


but the two years pass I cannot ya it's like but the two years has passed


no not after during, I was an intern cabin crew, yeah I was like one of those like intern cabin crews that people don't really understand <mandarin>为什么:wei shen me</mandarin> they can, be a student and be a cabin crew


, yeah it was my internship, as in it was my internship also it's quite a special internship lah like cause internships and I fly like a regular cabin crew not like just like a student or intern cabin crew I fly like any other cabin crew so a lot of people always ask me !huh! can ah got such internship have lah really is have actually is quite common nowadays


yeah, just no just no holiday ah


so we train during holiday, so poly holiday quite long poly holiday two months right, ya so that eight weeks that we suppose to on holiday we were training


so within the holiday lah basically then our probation was during school, (hmm) then school on monday to friday then fly saturday or sunday


then there was a full time internship period for six months, so my whole internship people's internship usually six months the max right in poly but mine was, mine was a year, including the probation for the first six months then the next <mandarin>六个月:liu ge yue</mandarin> is full time


just <mandarin>飞来飞去:fei lai fei qu</mandarin> but the <mandarin>六个月飞来飞去:liu ge yue fei lai fei qu</mandarin> is super Bohua cause, they pay me intern pay right but I work like a normal crew damn Siao it's like !walao! eh like we were complaining like mad, cause like people fly normal hours


they earn easily earn like three, we earn one K only eh then we like what the heck, Buaysai ah like why like like why why would I want to fly so much and you pay me a fixed amount


yah but then we feedback then we feedback already they say, we feedback already we manage to we managed to cause we still need to do project, like when we fly and then very hard eh cause my groupmates all flying then can't be they put us on the same flight what


so our roster all very different then still need to meet up to do school work that's impossible so we went to the office we like no this can't like it cannot go on like you have to at least give us, one common off day like don't need to <mandarin>我们自己去:wo men zi ji qu</mandarin> swap one like you have to roster us a common off day


if not we will never get this project done, then thankfully we managed to find a middle ground lah I I ask for every week, one okay lah but actually every week a bit a bit a bit too much, to us cause if every week they roster me same off day right they very hard to plan roster


cause the pattern very hard to fit so in the end we found we found we compromise ah they give us <mandarin>每两个礼拜:mei liang ge li bai</mandarin> one day, !wah! but that was that was damn Shiok, like, it it took the hours down by a lot just because of that one off day right they cannot put flights around that off day also


ya it's damn Shiok ya it's damn Shiok, so our hours yeah, standby ah, yeah, ya no cause like for okay for me right like at the back right I really like <mandarin>不管:bu guan</mandarin> already like at the last two months ah I fly like the type I got I remember last month I flew like my longest flight was Bangkok


when Bangkok is like two hours only, so my hours damn short like I swap all the long flights to other people, I not supposed to ah, but I swapped all the long flights to other people then I only my longest flight was Bangkok but I to I tell the office I didn't tell the office lah but my my message to the office was fuck you like


I I'm only going to work longest Bangkok, I'm not going to fly for you anymore, but then thankfully they still extended my contract after that Heng ah, cause after they extend right it's not freelance it's it's not intern anymore it's freelance the freelance pay damn good


, yeah, yeah I continue for <mandarin>一年:yi nian</mandarin> so that's what I was totally total there for two years


, the the after extend one because my internship was the first half of the year then after I extend <mandarin>我就做:wo jiu zuo</mandarin> for one more year then half the year was in school, then another half year was before army


ya before army, I totally forgot I totally forgot I went to the army,


it was so meaning, almost meaningless


eh now a lot of people financial consultant very scary, so isaac became a financial consultant, david also became a financial consultant, yeah, then who else a lot yeah


so hard lah their job I cannot do, but <mandarin>这种东西很难做:zhe zhong dong xi hen nan zuo</mandarin> part time <mandarin>的:de</mandarin> leh


sales driven what it's technically sales, then if <mandarin>你做:ni zuo</mandarin> part time that means <mandarin>你的:ni de</mandarin> pay <mandarin>也是:ye shi</mandarin> part time


ya I want I I wanted to explore property, but then I realized that it's quite a long road,


yeah, cause I was thinking I was thinking what job I can do that I don't need to be my own boss right that I can potentially <mandarin>三年后:san nian hou</mandarin> right where SQ call me when I'm like nope, actually my job now earns more than what a pilot earns, then property is like the only thing that came to mind


insurance <mandarin>很难:hen nan</mandarin> lah, insurance harder I feel lah personally I feel


insurance also okay actually property also actually this kind of job any sales job is see luck one I feel, like maybe seventy percent skills you still have to have their thirty percent luck, to see whether you <mandarin>今天真的是遇到贵人:jin tian zhen de shi yu dao gui ren</mandarin> or you tomorrow <mandarin>是遇到:shi yu dao</mandarin> like


and honestly I feel like this line right, I feel lah


no what no no no but the it's very different like I feel like, when you are a male customer right, a female sales woman right, will have a bit more appeal but when you are a female customer, talking to a male salesperson right


it's not one to one the appeal level, if you compare the different genders I feel like female come yeah you get what I trying to say a female comes to a salesman right, probably really just because she wants to buy something


and then she's really more driven by emotion whether she want to buy the thing or not but for a male going to a saleswoman right, is a bit different, like I don't know how to explain but I think you get what I mean yeah it's a bit different


but then again it's very it's very easy it's much is is they more <mandarin>吃香:chi xiang</mandarin> but they also <mandarin>吃亏:chi kui</mandarin> ah, like female salesperson


so, when she go and meet clients is like all those err slightly like is the boss lah usually is the boss of the business mah she meet her client cause she want to sell to the boss, !walao! all this


, ya like so they really want to they ya but they so they do want to buy the product it's just, they want to get more then is like !wah! really cannot like I hear my friends tell me all these <mandarin>故事:gu shi</mandarin> ah !wah!


yeah, take advantage and,


ah maverick, it's called maverick but don't go there please then, ya so maverick is the one I used to go at labrador park ARC there alexandra retail centre and now I go to


oh then you probably know lah right, they were around okay it's opposite lah it's opposite ARC then you know that that place where they got this japanese restaurant, ya the nine nine one there then I used to go to a box there then now I am at Mobulus chinatown


Mobulus chinatown, really, oh, what's your friend's name, yeah yeah