so in a way so long as you have a back up plan to everything, I don't know like I never mind maybe, differences in the way we think continue continue please do


I don't know cause it I felt like, no it seems as if, ya uh hinting that like, you you are you are mentioning about friends


how does that tie to success, too long never write gp paper already


goodness did you just, as a very nice of thing, human perfume, no it's not like it's just do you do you smell this like very weird wafting


suddenly like, no I thought you did oh well, no


you were talking about monetary and, we started out of like, I guess yours is you said that yours was more


take one take one, think at a time right goodness I really cannot get used to this, take one step at a time lah like slowly whenever we


like this, okay okay thank you, oh this is nice what's the most number of durians you've ever eaten at one go, yes durians, ya has the question


one whole durian, one piece of durian, or like one whatever that thing, I want like styrofoam box of durians, alone


so you eat three quarter of, want to have a hurst of durian, or sytrofoam boxes of durians, from eating durians, !wah! that's an achievement eh, okay


interesting, I don't, ya like


no the thing is I I I eaten durian but the most I ever, the the physical fruit itself right correct, I prefer it chilled I guess is cause the flavors are not as pomegranate, then like


no, I don't I don't enjoy the smell, yes that's one that one I don't enjoy the smell, so like I would like take, half a seed, like that's the most I've eaten, then like I remembered I was in Malaysia, then we were having durian by the roadside I decided to be brave


but it was like warm and, sticky and hot and I'm just like


not is hygienic


I I I I mean that's why Singapore has, has like the regulations what, but durians they just cut it in front of you ah no meh, isn't it different


or not but like when they oh okay, I guess as in my parents are also quite like but it's more of like, they will take fresh durians so they, there were the durians to be cut out, in front of them, unless so like durian is unopen, to is probably fresh I guess cause he cannot like the


okay okay you cannot soil the inside of the durian one, but I do enjoy durian flavour things, that's the weirdest things


ya ya ya is it cause, why why why do people called it nonsense is it cause it's not potent enough, uh it taste very artificial


but this is like the so it's like on the scale of like, (ppb) of trash rubbish don't like durian how, I like durian ice cream so maybe I


ya artificial one no I guess cause it's not add, I guess I will enjoy it with frozen, but I don't even like ice cream that much so


(hmm) reminds me of the time where the, you know the six box in group coast Skarf, is us, spelt S K A R F I think they are on hiatus right now, or like disbanded already but basically it's made up of like


two Singaporeans , two Singaporean, and two Korean I think at the first time, girl group girl group from alpha entertainment you know alpha entertainment is a subsidiary of like JYP


Tasha Tasha, yes yes yes so, Ferlyn I think a Singaporean member that left when you like, durians then they had you know sometimes likes k-pop groups they debut through an


reality tv show, but ya so like the reality tv show was, based in Singapore lah cause I think they were counting on the fact that you know Singaporean Singapore pride and what not then they will have like this small fanbase, base in Singapore then you help propel them in


into stardom in Korea, uh sadly that didn't happen but anyway she didn't so about the all the Singaporeans didn't really like, the taste of durian so she was like kind of like you know acting like (hmm) then she was like cringe and what not not, not sure if she got a backlash from them but


as it I think you got what I mean


crowds ah a a place to go where it's like somewhere, like where you want go, I like to go if, where we go a place that's good to go


but, hold something cool that's like a, like no one knows lah, like a hidden gem of salt, unless


NTU, schools, four corner of Singapore I guess, where was it


Boon-Lay Tuas, and all the, CBDs lah like where we are at right now


actually I realised that there's a lot of unexplored place in Singapore I never been to, not that I actually want to explore them, but I think it's cool to have, such a hide out


cause community centers are actually not that far, are you kidding me


super especially during exam period have you not seen like, I guess (ppb), is cause it's not during peak period, I tried studying in library once oh-my-gosh was like


ah yes, that I agree, very


when I really, when I really wanna study correct I'm like I go, I, make plans with a friend to go study in library


so I need to be accountable, looks like me and running (ppb), my run buddy has like flown to (ppb) track, so I've no one to like, exercise with me so I'm, slowly getting fatter


my running shoes are in and, are in school, uh is there not that I know of eh


you know now the less developed areas I remember that, ya like everyone everywhere slowly becoming


the airport is quite convenient for me so, avoid the crowds, oh, Atas shopping centres, do you know that


ya [loh], the do do you know that the wait that Atas shopping centres can use too so, (ppb) how do I phrase oh the bid, so okay when you build a structure right correct


they actually try to imagine or either try to play our scenario or try to like forecast, the, amount, the values use to calculate for the amount of people


that will be, visiting the what's that thing, they will be in Ion right correct is like half the number half the value of the, the amount of people that will visit like, Takashimaya is it Takashimaya or some other thing basically Ion is like lesser so they actually sector for lesser people


(ppb) (hmm) thought that was quite cool


surprising I was quite happy sia like the best eh like as in like, university libraries ah, the teacher who made the biggest difference in your life is


really, she called Melvin a neanderthal eh cannot eh, but he she praise we had that she she she she she she narrated that story to you right


vaguely remember, not Guo-Xiong she not praise lah but she commended, commended Melvin for his, full face of beard, and like criticise the boys in our class for not being able to grow


to such an extent, not sure it's like it was it was more like a backhanded compliment but it's a compliment all the same


you could eh why couldn't you you could, nothing, nothing to say anymore


she was great and she just, but I actually have differing views eh like I didn't really enjoy my, okay I enjoyed her lessons I cannot deny that she's not


I cannot deny that she is a good teacher but perhaps not the best, teacher suited to my style of learning I guess, like I can see that she's trying to help I felt very sorry in a way that I just, cannot absorb and cannot apply


whatever she's teaching, I guess like maybe, cause she's very she likes to explore ideas, a lot then, it's it's a very, in a way, non standard like very very theory based


and something like, cannot follow like I'm just like, I even, the thing is okay she her comments for me right were like, cause lit you need to like, try to draw out the things, like common ideas and common


issues, like using, particular object lah correct like what this object would, signify what, ya what what it will connote right, my brain just automatically think of like weird stuff eh, like or rather things that are not of the ordinary or things that are not things that are at things that are not


people will usually think about and not the first impression of what they will, think you get what I mean, it's been like that and I'm just like, in that case, how do you, wire yourself to think like a normal person


do do you, do you see I'm coming from just like, I that means, I have to, I have to I have to learn, then makes me sound like a psychopath but, as in, as in ya like it's just


like that lor and the thing is, so I actually, (ppb) so when during during parents teachers meeting right correct, lecturers Ng said the, say this to my mum lah like, told this to my mum so, I tried to like, get my mum to understand what she was


saying, so I got her to to do an exercise lah a poem ah so I was I remembered saying like, oh what does like this thing connote, and her idea was freaking weird, like even weirder than mine, so I'm just like


well it probably runs in the family, I cannot so, biggest difference in my life right, these differences


oh no suddenly you you you you, no no no no (ppb) , no, no cause you suddenly turn and look over I got a bigger shock cause you suddenly look very sleazy, it's like those like, weird old uncle


just like [ehe] !er! no no no no no no no anyways, so, uh the biggest difference a teacher made right correct was not a positive one was a negative one actually, so negative negative


I think I recounted the story to you before but I can always say it again, so I was in P four right correct then I, was very playful I didn't study then like I scored, I didn't do the


I'm lah so I, think I got C and that was like, for like me at that time because, sixty eight, that time you know primary school the grading system


ya as in normally you will be getting, for the more, how do I say, academically blessed people, intellectually intellectually blessed perhaps


they will be scoring around nineties right correct I got sixty eight then I'm just like, I remembered getting I think it was last in class for that, so right that was for CA that was when we still had CA, two


so the last paper will be SA two then, this this lovely teacher of mine right correct made those, who scored below a certain amount, stand up, and was like


predicting their SA two scores, so like to to them she was like, you !aiya! with your standard right now right correct you most probably can only score an like eighty five, so she was like, labelling already eh and then my mum when she heard it she was so pissed off


so obviously I studied, and then I I beat her ass lah, of course lah I mean can you imagine


uh no as in no because my mum English isn't that good, yes it's one of those, I stupidly give their number


anyways, as in non, better than what she, put in the effort meh ya ya ya


no the thing is I've already, unpleasant memories with her right correct because I was, my goodness leh I was in primary school right can you imagine I was just playing around on the staircase, stupid teacher just, came and scold me eh just for like fooling around on the staircase I mean


we are a bunch of kids right correct, and you're just everyone was in good spirits and then you had to like, come out and like scold and then just like I will tell your teacher that you're like playing blah blah blah, and I was so scared leh do you know that time that time my mum just had an operation on her leg


then because of me she, cause I was so scared she actually, like the next day she actually visited my teacher, said you know apologize on behalf kind of because I was so afraid of the consequences


then because of that her wound actually, like she had she has she has just received these stitches the stitch broke, tore tore halfway, then her scar is bigger than


what it was intended lah so like from, ya lor one of the, very, unpleasant, memories associated with that teacher so


I could be a Karung-Guni man what would I collect, the same thing I guess I mean, actually my house has a lot of stuff leh like my house


my my family are all hoarders, really a lot a lot of stuff


ya it's like a lot a lot of stuff like we have like, three four study tables and there's only like, two daughters, (ppb) parents only have two daughters, then was like four study tables


no lah some is buy buy buy buy usually buy, as in I had ah, my father used to once picked up a doll from somewhere my mum was so disgusted she was like


she was like can you have some like to my dad can you have some standard !eww! throw that away it was really very cute, okay but my mum was like !eww! then I'm just like, as in I don't think my dad is like disgusting enough to like go pick it up from the, trash can lah but like he he got to take from somewhere and


still, ya, like Chucky


queuing queuing, I believe its the word that you are looking for specifically is, sand sights


but I wouldn't queue for phones though maybe it's just me, ya like iPhone iPhone X, currently I guess I don't have the money to but, ah yes free stuff free stuff that's a given


uh ya ya free stuff free stuff that's nice that's nice who doesn't want free stuff even though it's useless, (ppb) I've absolutely no


do you have anything outside the year though, that's past year why your exam so you realize you couldn't do twenty five mark of your questions


uh ya like I totally know what PR one one one zero is


it's all great to me, it's all great to me, I have long abandon that !woohoo!, did he go through the answers


as in like sometimes my teachers go through the answers after the test


do you still have that, uh how much did that they used to cost, like one figurine cause I know you are selling them for like three to five dollars, is it on Carousell then how much did they use to cost


uh but no one no one wants to buy lah, ten thousand years, okay what did I collect, I used to collect a lot of stuff I mean I'm collecting


up up till now I'm still collecting k-pop albums albums but I cannot bring myself to sell them, it just, oh so much stuff ehbut, that's why I guess like


the minimalist lifestyle really, I'm I'm very attracted to the minimalist lifestyle but like it's more of a, I like to, see it I like to see it from like a bird's eye view and like be a, ah ah ah yes yes cause you know like those


YouTube has this, has this small community of this thing uh called tiny houses you know, like tiny house on wheels, no no they do they do but their entire house is like, on a trailer


then I'm really weirdly fascinated by that like I can like spend hours watching the design and everything eh, and like how they live their lifestyle but I, never for me like I think about, ya ya


yes, maybe I mean if I'm interested there's probably that, like interest I guess but I just, I just never have the, courage perhaps to be like you know that that thing that that that whatever theory it's where you like pick up something then you must


feel whether it brings you joy, do you know that, there is this is this way of like discarding your items and trying to go minimalistic


can they hear this, yes there's the review of footage, my goodness how many footage do they have to, how many amounts of footage do they have to review ah, ya and, !wow!


sleeping


(ppb) yes okay this is nice, for me at least what's your usual coffee shop order for Kopi or Teh, normal Teh Peng


really ah, [orh] that's nice maybe I have to go down there and like try it once


so that's your usual order is it cause you only order from there or I mean, like or like any other Kopitiams or like, I mean apart from your school life lah


do you not eat at food courts outside your school


what's two dollars, I maybe should get one later eh, let's go get one later (ppb)


on what, but it's just two dollars, I'm thinking of spending forty dollars on stupid fan site goods so


anyways uh okay for me right correct it used to be milk tea, used to be milk tea Teh Peng lah Teh Peng or like just Teh, but surprisingly


not surprisingly I've come to discover that there such a thing called they all, the old thing, yes


but there is sugar, oh I like eh I like that bitterness, ya ya that very Siap Siap taste like that and I freaking love it so


black tea ya like I will actually drink black tea by myself, I have like one whole, carton of black tea, I love it to death


the the question itself has Teh lah ya


okay I think I always, yes, sounds like, I always complain about my sister, right, right right right not about her but her


as in, not my interactions with her but her incompetency, almost, but I do understand that, is a thing that comes with, ya shall understand so it likes the face and that


peer away I want like, being a teenager why are you what what are you doing, I thought you going to kiss your feet and I'm just liek !eww! I, don't, can you put your feet


I can't even get my feet to reach at reach that, I scan, I am afraid with my pants you know


don't try please don't try, I scare you dislocate your neck, not that's all


ya yours, oh is soon right I don't have nice question


do I even have any acronym, why, eh you haven't just because you haven't express that level of laughter doesn't mean it doesn't exist okay


I did leh I wrote on the floor like, in school, you wrote off the floor, why


is like is like the Twitter that, that tweet that always goes around you know when everyone's like, like on Twitter everyone everyone's like hahahaha like, or like rofl but then they are all like straight face actually behind the screens


no no no I'm just I I find that amusing, (ppb) oh-my-goodness like I don't know why it just like


that's cause you picked it up from Amy, like it irks me for some reason eh, ya and I'm just like sometime like do you even need to, oh-my-god it's so pointless eh like the censoring like can understand what you are talking about then you still have to censor then what's the point


I mean I understand the point is for it to not get, searched lah word search I'm just like, but that's just


ya I'm just like


ah you know what I do in response right correct is to type in languages that people don't understand, and converse in a language that people don't understand, so they have to like Google translate and sometime Google translate don't doesn't even work because the way I type and the way I speak is in slangs


colloquial slangs, ya like how Amy used to say that she's born in London then I just, why ah


!huh! that's that's very sad ah, this is nice what


what single piece of advice would you give a non Singaporean friend who's moving to Singapore, what single piece of advice would you give a non Singaporean friend who's moving to Singapore


I have one, actually there's a YouTube channel


Georgia, like her name is, I think her name is Georgia if I am not wrong but it's, about a British expat, who moved to Singapore, like three years ago actually there are quite a bunch of them on YouTube another one is Brianna or something like that


actually I can't remember but, uh anyways, she has made quite a lot of video and it's very interesting to hear, life (ppb)


in Singapore from her perspective, cause like according to her right correct even though they are speaking in quite a lot of like, expats I guess even though we are speaking English they can't understand (ppb), because of the accent


yes like that it's like an English as in alien form of English then they are like act of what, then I think we don't really realize it but I our can and cannot, does does it really really make sense as an English language eh


cause they likes ya, so it's too heavily accent ah


so the slang is it but, would you need have like some of integrated and like some of got useless to Singaporean, oh-my-goodness but I don't think Americans are the worse at least you can understand their English


yes as in, I'm sorry some peoples uh anyway anyway yes yes


paints off (ppb), which is why having (ppb), or rather does just really accent, ~ted then sometimes I understand it's English, sometime they do speak in good English just that, it's either they are very muffled because of their


because of (ppb), no no they might but because I, you know how like some people cannot pronounce certain sounds because, because of the alternative language, then we are trying to learn another language right like like the particular sound is not


present in their language then you have to you have to that the the muscle has the tongue muscle has to like relearn, a new, sound I guess, uh ya lah something like that lah


(ppb) which place, you have what, which place in Singapore make the biggest impression on you as a kid, this is for #gai gai#


or did you not go around or are you like a bum


(ppb) okay maybe not a kid but I had one child I brought my cousins to Wild-Wild-Wet, think that time I was in secondary school not a kid but no no no no no so they just is they only insult the is it the, don't know what it is lah


like it was the the thing like you just stand on the thing then you just drop ninety degrees, you know I I I I wrote it I wrote it, uh when I went out of the slide, my shirt cause I wasn't wearing a swimsuit cause I was a fat block but


so I was wearing like dry fit shirt and shorts, my shirt right, because of the water pressure, broke all the way until here, so I exited the slide like this with my shirt like bunch up over my


my bra lah but still, ya then it was like oh crap yes, I'm not sure if my cousin my cousins are guys leh, not sure if they caught like they like


so I was just like, but we never ever addressed the issue lah so, ya goodness (ppb) so (ppb), point is always wear a swimsuit , to such places, yes


slithering around in your


I cannot really think about think of anything, resting, okay


(ppb) there are a lot of people that just , really so she talks to you about there, so she was sharing people bitch about other people, really do they like talk bad about each other


are they friends


but they know you talk to both of them right, ya continue being the neutral party I guess the neutral party is always the scariest person


yes you can feel free to enlighten me later, where is this


uh please create a meaningful conversation


really, what's the best what what let me let me read that come, the best Lobang do we do even have Lobang


ya ya ya


miss the most, means don't have it doesn't exist now, or what, so [orh] so pass Singapore lah, which part of Singapore do I miss


do I (ppb) , do you have any


do you have any, uh I want playgrounds sandy playgrounds those big


not child protector safe background you know those like Gravery Gravery ones ya I really, ya because like, China right China playgrounds are the best in school you know they have this like huge like climbing thing, those playgrounds are just so


safe and like childproof, ya is like like they they always have to have a element of thin joint I guess, can't expect of old Singapore old Singapore


ya lah impact is the way they not, not everything is automated


(ppb) we are getting distracted okay should should we need do you have any other in, do you any nice we just see the nice one first then


okay okay okay


uh why wait we we can answer this I guess, so we have a steady stream of conversation yes


in Singapore, currently, as in like uni, no that's painful jc was a very painful time


as in ya but as in like the after, I guess my own the the repercussions like tinted my experience of jc quite a bit, but if not it was fun lah, which was your best


my best subject in school was actually, science eh I don't know what happened, no I'm not, not science science sia I don't take science science I don't take science like you science, ya


your mic, mine school of engineering might specifically school of civil and environmental engineering


ya [loh] no science, my worst subject in school (ppb) haha, my worst subject in school is was Chinese turn out to my, to be my best subject for A levels ding ding ding, B three higher than yours


ya ya my I said even though it's a language like it's always memorised, I memorise down that language so I'm exam like paper smart but not like can't really speak it which is sad


ya it's always like that right then the


is it cause like prelim spurred you, like according to her


I want to comment right correct that your difficulty in handling, I'm wearing a mic just now right was very amusing, you know every time every time I wear


every time, people wear like mics right correct, or everytime I wear a mic I always, there's this like small little fantasy that I am fulfilling, you know don't don't you don't you like having like the headsets and hand mics in one


oh I just realize but, ya the reason why I'm not, as humbly with, like I can work my way around a mic before it's cause I do actually, wear mics


I saw a question just now, when's your last serious relationship I can't find it now, how many I'm picking out all the questions that you cannot answer like


how many siblings do you have, ah yes this is nice though it looks so interest, describe the perfect date, I mean it's your fantasy what will you consider as the perfect date


do you have you ever thought of that why are you checking yourself out in the mirror


okay I think we can split the card into two then I won't, how about this we each are we each take a turn to like pick out the card then instead of choosing the question


just move on, it shall gloss over that technical difficulty


I will actually transfer, I will keep around, ten million ah I think I will keep around, one thousand, maybe, maybe not I probably like set aside, five hundred thousand like that's a bit too much also


no no I need to keep an invest, as in the thing is, I will keep, no I'm not that philanthrophic


I was gonna say that I will gonna keep, (ehe) I I was gonna keep, like for me for me and myself to spend right correct about, ten thousand cause I think I can't finish that amount I can finish spending that amount


keep ten thousand for myself, then the rest donate it to my parents for them to keep for me because if not I will spend finish everything, ya and like perhaps part of the money I'll confirm look into donating, some lah


but if not will be like, I'll look into like, are we the typical staff investing yes definitely but then, yes which one is k-pop my hair makeup plastic surgery perhaps


I'll actually hire a this is one thing I've been looking into right now trying to, hire a personal trainer, I think if there's someone you're accountable to, then, it makes it easier to work out


!wah! wait wait ya I'll I guess I'll still, work lah like I'll still study I won't like suddenly abandon my studies but is just having a security that you have always have, always have back up money lor


yes yes that also and like repay all my bank loans, goodness I'm like fifteen K in debt, will you start a new company will you like have a startup, I think I might then like try to invest you know try to like throw money and like into


ya that's why that's why like start of business like having own business, oh-my-god that was so cringe


that was so be did you just, I only take cash or bring


right ya being your own, ya lor being your own boss some more then can, like there's no, you know everytime, every time my friend, like my friends are actually dealing with like, are playing with like entrepreneurship and like start small business startup channel right correct


the thing is like as much as they will say they will want to say that they are self made and why not, just not the case I mean like, there always has to be that initial investment and that lump sum that someone invest and usually it's the parents, so every time if someone from my faculty family said that they are self made right correct right now right


unless you have like double your profit and like being, be able to like we repay our parents but you earn and actually thrive, it's the money that it's the money profit profit it's very different but even then right correct you already, as in I I comment you for being able to like think of such in


idea for start up perhaps, but like the starting point, the starting one is different already lah so like there's always that, that that that pinch of salt that you have to, you have to under cut lah that, the ability [loh], whether it's fair or not that's another thing all together


but yes yes right there's always government, and like the subsidize right correct to try to even out that, its variety in incoming, mean for you


(ppb) all or nothing at all, what risk, have you taken for someone you love, is it I'm asking you


do you need to ask me okay okay sure, ask me what risk have I taken for someone I love, honestly right correct


the first thing that came to my mind right was actually, Melvin, to put into context, to put into context he is my, ex, boyfriend, and he was


emotionally unstable, he was emotionally unstable, very emotionally unstable


as a friend that, in a way loves him, cause I have gotten quite close to him at that point , he had


confessed to me quite a number of times, and it was getting to the point where, I was very afraid that my rejection would, be a catalyst, for his death


surprising right, so, to put it right but bluntly he was, suicidal


and has, a criminal record, do you know that it's legal to attempt a suicide in Singapore


so, what risk I took , getting into a relationship with him, even though that I know it won't, I like I I had no intentions of


perhaps marrying cause that is a basis of entering the relationship, as a friend yes, as a like girlfriend boyfriend, I guess you'd there is a phase you know like there's this I always call it reciprocal liking where


where if you if you feel like someone likes you then you, you like ya you are obliged to like that person back because you like the feeling of being liked, so


so the recorded audio has to be two hours and seventeen minutes, from now, do you all have to go and meet


okay lah, no no no


well that was a very nice interruption, okay lah so that's that, like that lah


uh we started at, this is


ya cause it's not our fault either right, you can ask for compensation ah


E Y, and you liked it


what nicknames do you go by, what I want is they, E Y E Y people just refer to you as E Y


oh only on text lah, but that is trying to censor right correct I mean I have created a lot of nicknames for you that I love, no man dispenser what, triggered psychopath


why why are some cuts like heart and some cuts


but for you eh, but they always said that like once you have your own child even though you find shouldn't you irritating then that always changes cause is your own, have you asked your father


like did you like insurance, I don't know for my parent


have you ask your parent so you don't have your siblings


you want to key, ya ya ya I know, do not sing


fake S D name one of your closest friends, how is he or she special to you, I guess, since my bestest friend is out of the window I can unabashedly


talk about this since he is not here, so I only have, one closest friend and he happens, doing this recording with me right now


for some reason yes, gone to the toilet


oh I was narrating, testing, like this, okay


oh why you grinning, I went to the washroom just now, then the very first washer my enter was a center one but anyway, so right it was dark


(ppb) and it was creepy, is is very is, that mean I guess with this place a bit, rundown right correct, then you know at the back of the door that's this like, place to hook your bag, yes tissue paper right to the on it


oh so fed up I say to you that's I not could be go in, ya like like can you imagine the hook was like that right correct then there was like tissue paper then, it's like let me let me not use this


anyway, shall I like, continue this, recording this session with me


how is he how is he or she special to you uh, is very embarrassing to say this one, like, I feel like I'm confessing eh it's just


is so weird like, I like that, train of thoughts and our thinking, are usually similar


and when, it comes to things that we don't exactly agree on, we still can, see the other party's point of view and accept in a way and appreciate, where they are coming from


so this ability to, understand to learn and not to just like brush, other people's opinions off as, like like not only sticking to one opinion but


but being able to listen to other people also and always, maybe want to form their own opinions lah, being able to be very crude in conversation very unfailed without


ya lah


why not I think it's, ya why not why not just curious why not, is there a stigma like do you have a stigma against online dating


do you know that a lot of teachers, turn to, dating, ya, because all they see are their all they see are their colleagues or their students and they have like no social life, so I have a friend who is a teacher and like what she says is that actually a lot of teachers turn to


online dating cause they really have no time to meet other people, what's your stigma, like what if you cannot get someone from


it's your social circle or like from someone you know she there is good thing and bad thing about that can you imagine if she was from your social circle right correct chances that you have to meet to her, you have to meet and run into her next time even like say touch wood where's the wood here like if, ya


cause your socials, cause you run parallel social circles then how, so you are looking to find someone, in your social circle


I get the familiarity also right, if you're if you're thirty and you are old, okay thirty not so old


no what they think, then will you like consider Tinder dating agencies, no ah thirty still can I mean, my mum got married when she was thirty six excuse you


ya, she married thirty six give birth thirty seven had my sister at forty three, oh actually right correct my, okay this is delving slightly in


but is quite a cool story so my, my, friend almost right correct, this happen in two instances I have a friend K so it's friend one, who is older and friend two so friend two


dreamt about friend's one wedding, or rather like, partner significant partner partner, partner apparently lah, not sure how as in the Christian society there's this thing called, prophecy so it's a bit of like fortune telling but not really like fortune tell


ya lah something like that lah, so one of the ways that you can have it right is through dreams correct, so my friend dreamt friend two dreamt about friend one, much older friend one is the teacher that I was talking about earlier, then friend one is


twenty seven this year, so right, then friend two is a bit, quirky lah like she's she's damn nice but she's, a bit quirky in nature so she was like, she was like


to friend one oh I dreamt about your husband you know then friend one was like okay, friend two, friend two was friend two said ya I cannot really remember much but I just remembered he had like, super positive vibes, and he had big ears


then like a few, a few, a few weeks later a few months later, said friend one right apparently dreamt about her own wedding also


apparently she was in t-shirt and short, t-shirt and jeans, like very informal, and she was getting married with three other two other couples, so three of them were getting married together but she was very informal just her hair was like nicely like nicely done, but it's in very very informal outfit


then she was getting marriage to other people then I was like, she she related the story to me lah, then she said that as as they will I don't know getting married or something like that then, she said that


cannot really remember the very details but apparently she, saw her husband in her dream, and then she was like ya very positive vibes, no not not about the ear she didn't catch the ears, she said that he wasn't very good looking though


wasn't very good looking but super positive vibes, and had sweaty palms, I don't know why as in like if anything you'll take a pinch of salt lah but I mean, quite cute lah at least at least you, I find it very cute [loh]


no lah we see lah we see, we see we see a few years down the road I update you or something


not even my phone, like had the chance within my laptop and my phone I will choose my laptop, isn't it, because right, everything is insensible except my work


and all my work was on my laptop, like even my phone right correct is like, not as crucial as my laptop because, I mean I change phone and like half the time I don't transfer the data over


how about you, phone or laptop phone why why phone, why phone and not laptop, and what are the stuff that you cannot did, my photos are transfer to my commonality basis so I'm just


not daily lah like like occasionally every, biweekly, ya all my cause I really run out of space of my phone and that's why I transfer the photos over


yes context context, I guess you can always save everything on cloud right connect from the laptop, you can though


do you find check history very important, cause for me check history is like disposable, why, is it ya why why why


no space like that space lah, oh really, ya


oh-my-goodness okay


let's use Ria as an example


I would offer to like use me as an example but I'm too weird out now by this situation right now to even considered that as an alternative, so


closed off, close stuff ah like, say #Shen ru# #Shen ru#, no uh ya kidding I'm I'm saying this as an example why you suddenly


do you know I was shipping y'all two in, describe the most embarrassing moment of your life


spill explain a bit more, is it a Pokemon


uh uh uh is it the guy, I don't know I can only think of Ben-Ten, but did you know the old guy is a the guy is an old man, Teen-Titans ah


I don't know but there is a guy and a girl right correct they are they as in they they they I'm, okay okay star fire


okay sure sure sure sure, so Starfire you want, I'm cringing already so it's like hi Starfire, star fire


that that that to call you that !ah! so cute, !ah! is it time to change your name on my phone


oh Robin


it's quite sad this afternoon, stress, this one a bit annoyed that it can't, no which is why no I I'm a bit annoyed that they keep on now they keep on dragging the time but I was ready ready to burn


this time already lah so, because I have a test due, then like I have five more recording recorded lectures to watch, which I guess you can I can finish up lah over the weekends, and Monday cause I have a free day on Monday what but it's just very


annoying in the, no no no it's not cause of you this is cause of paper paper, like my my my my research paper right, already like I have already settled it already kind of lah, but, is just like exam stress [loh] cause I really don't understand the this topic at all


ya that is like I have to slowly, I have to like slowly wait through and like, and like not only that lah if like back lock stuff one like, last semester that I want to clear back before recess next week the thing is that I used to play away my recess break right correct then like the last few days then I Chiong


but this time around no leh, like I was really consistently doing my work is just really no time, it's cause you have like quite a lot of test to study for, ya ya my my test used to be before recess week what right


your your your test, your test is after mine used to be before, so like recess break was always a time for me to catch up on my stuff but just now just that now because my test happens to be after recess break because of stupid organisers, stupid, organiser ya ya ya


all sorts of stupid professors then, so I cried out of stress this morning because I took, four hours to finish one lecture, cause I have to like pause, I didn't even do I didn't even dare to like increase the speed leh


and these types of things you cannot read on your own one, is like there is no physical, because I didn't buy the textbooks so there is no like words you know to like you know is all just notes so you really need someone to like, teach you, what each other thing mean


like what each symbol means because is not like words words words is like a lot of symbols and each symbol represents, okay statistics are quality [loh] something, how long has it been


so ya, last time I cried one, have you cried out of happiness before, I did leh, I cried of happiness when I got my acceptance letter


to ntu, !wah! I literally bawled on the bed leh for like how long, ya then I say and it was on my birthday some more leh, my acceptance letter came on my birthday, ya like I just cry


ya ya ya


okay let me know, turn so much I think I think we put it here, think we put it here better , I know I real doesn't like I mean like your friends all the stupid, photo shops like I didn't understand it


like designing fence or ports, I don't understand it's like, ya, yes I guess to be they like it because it designed Chrystal also does her own self but they not only majoring in like


art or what or not I don't even add to their portfolio eh, you say how you perform on your O levels, ya ya


but is is they are why they have a very good time management, it's like once you like discard then all this all this like maybe useless


learning a language or


I guess right what think that she consider is being, doing Mukbangs, ya ya ya, like if I if that's a if that's a


that's a possibility of me not getting fat while eating like containing large one of food right correct, yes, I will get fat obviously lah, that's sound like fatty actually


you know that like I the faggots the group of friends that I have they've actually, decided, ya we it's a it's our group chat name you know, uh ya never mind ah


we actually, talk of creating a YouTube, ya never already do I'm ever just too busy but in again now I realized that Chrystal majoring in art


fantasy novels


!wah!, do you submit it for a late portfolio


I don't know how you survive, Sojourn, where is your true home oh speaking of sojourn right correct do you know #Joshua Song#, is it #Joshua Song#, that's our teacher right, his wife, has a blog called sojourning in the sun


hello hello hello hello, mine's really loud though like, I don't know


there's no name for the food check, just food check, okay, no the bar has no name


there's no push or pull for the door, both are open


both are overflowing so I'm not sure about yours


no no one's on the see-saw, she's sitting on top of the green ball that looks like a water


you mean red and white stripes, ya they have a white radio


nope she's he is wearing slippers scandals actually, no no socks


what I have to no I thought we have to find six together, twelve really, I don't know the, the old man, the old man that's wearing the blue pants right blue blue shorts right, he is naked right


okay and there's nothing, ya she's he's on a brown chair, and then his wife, probably I don't know he he he I think she's she is reading a a book, and then uh she's wearing a swimming trunk that looks pink in color with


actually is a one piece, yeah a swimsuit, ya, uh it's a light blue magazine with uh, dark green


cigar, okay, yes she's wearing spec, before than this story, the white side is elevated right I mean the white seat is elevated and the red seat


okay my is right, on one side, that's elevated then right one uh the right one the left one is red, I don't know


special offer peach wine, okay, there have, a red and yellow bottle next to the special offer


ya, okay, okay then today have like, you you can south of or kitchen west next to the, okay good


for the food check right that selling crayfish, shellfish and lobster, okay, uh, the the guy was fishing


he is wearing a, he is wearing a yellow jacket right, dark, green brownish chances, then to his left there's there's like two signboards one that says North Shore Golf Club


okay, and then there there is a red sign that is learn to dive with pau, okay


(mmhmm), okay, , fall ground (ppb) that like, this is, this is signboard on your right that is beach


coming at eleven AM, oh okay, okay, I have two seagull of here, three fishes


yes one shark, uh okay okay we finish already


what's the most number of durians you've ever eaten at one go, you do eat an entire durian what


ya, hello hello, okay good, ya ya of course ah


has more to do with your projection one, right, yeah, what's the what's the most number of durians you've ever eaten at one go, !huh!


okay this this card is really very lame, upgrading works, which aspect of whole old Singapore do you miss the most


ya mine's a, executive, I think maybe the old Chinatown, because the new Chinatown is obviously if a fail


tourism, uh, uh, (ppb) rejuvenation I don't know, or like, think it was in the late late nine, nineteen nineties I think nineteen, it were build nineteen nineteen eighty


nineteen eight, late nineteen eighties, was like, one of the, no no no no I think it's in the the nineteen ninety, ya of course what you can see pictures of it what


oh accounts from like my my grandparents ah, feels more genuine ah, I mean you have this wet market, there then like people people are like slaughtering chickens on on the street


or preparing, preparing food on the streets, the places places are a lot more dirtier lah so in terms of hygiene it's not that, fantastic ah, as compare to now but, those


in those days I there, that's the real ChinaTown but today if you walk the street then is just some tourist location where itself, uh souvenirs, and then, the crowd is no longer there, people don't take, uh the people don't go to there for for like


for livelihood ah but, for, for the sake of like, taking a look like appreciating, the heritage ah yeah


!huh! design companies


okay, okay, your turn, wait wait wait


you haven't said the title yet the title is Ulu, so you want to go to somewhere remote, Europe, I don't think it means rural, I don't think it means


can have multiple meanings ah, , but you will say places like NTU is very Ulu, yeah, far ya we will, where people don't go


there often


you can what you go to the garden lah, I mean like, if you want escape crowd, in places like Orchard Road


uh okay, just stay at home ah, ya staying at home is the best what


you won't get, overcrowding, at home, I mean, that's for me ah cause, I mean unless you have ten people staying in your house ah then that's a different, thing altogether


heartlands, where should visitors go in Singapore to get the real sense of the country, go to HDB areas ah


no HDB is a Singaporean thing, how come


but but these kinds of design they're they're very rampant throughout, Singapore eh, so, I mean, Queenstown is the first, satellite town right that's built so


if people wants to get a real sense of Singapore right in terms of, how people where Singaporean stay, they should go to Queenstown right, or one of the oldest satellites satellite towns in Singapore


no but what do you mean by real sense of the country because, your country is always changing what right, so what's representing that real sense of your country, not really go to the construction site lah but


this is a very, situation situational, understanding of, real sense ah, I mean last time people will say


I mean, old generations will say uh okay okay, uh, to get a real sense of Singapore you have to go to, the places that are racially divided, Chinatown, Kampung-Glam Little-India


what do you mean racial diversity is not


(ppb), (ppb), ethnic culture I wouldn't (ppb)


mean for like your grandparents generation, ya ya I I (ppb), of course, ya no no in the nine I mean like in in the early nineteen, nineteen hundreds I I would even say that all the way to like sixties


right (ppb)


(mmhmm) (ppb), why did they even have, this kind of question, is your turn right


what's the most busy body thing you've ever done, nosy or meddlesome, , !aiya! I don't remember eh


I guess so, , ya


that's not even Kaypo right that's like that's a that's openly, I mean you given the privilege to, stop people or to meddle with other people stuff, but, this Kaypo really just means that some like there is something going on there that has nothing to do with you and then


you just go in there, irrelevantly to like, poke into it and, I've never done this before so


so I don't know why, I don't know why like, there will be such a term called Kaypo


okay okay okay, return your tray, what can you do to help the uncles and aunties clearing tables and swiping floor, return your tray, turn your tray


how can you help what, what can you do to help the uncles and aunties clearing tables and sweeping floors, you can't do anything right


I mean like this is their job I mean can make it easier by not, making the place dirtier, making it less dirty lah, making it clean lah actually


uh duh the that's like of, obviously if you accidentally spilt something then you don't intentionally, want to like, (ppc) (ppc) (ppb)


, (ppb), (ppb), maybe you can talk about art and culture


place have you gone for, we are actually, ya what are you reading now


okay, what has that got to do if art and culture actually, is it really you want to culture, wait what do you read, you wait you read his book


to, what do you expect from reading the the book


(ppb), (ppb), okay (ppb)


not reading anything actually we are reading more, like the last time I went the staff was Johnson serve, she really go through out the readings meh specifically


you really go through all the readings ah, not always right, okay, (ppc)


no he hasn't, ya is altered than miscellaneous what right ya,


I just talk a, favourite I have no favourite books, no I have no favorite books like Zhuang-Zi ah Zhuang-Zi is like the favorite one ah, keeps me entertain


wait ah do we really have to talk based on like all their free topic, from, no no no let's let's just talk about like


my well being , really


that is no worries what, ya ya ya my well being as in haiz, no I'm still editing it, Sunday


actually right now they are think about it I think, Andrew doesn't really, no the the question right, was really just simply asking, in terms of your, like in terms of your experiences just you subjectively hear


feeling something, versus when other people look at you, and then saying something up that's that is otherwise right, from your experiences, in welfare terms


the the what, the date, uh, don't talk about that date already that date is like to justify that, uh, yeah, yeah yeah


but that's by reductio ad absurdum, so it's not a very it's not a very good, argument, because because the point is if let's say right so what if you were to prove that, from the instance of like death right


you cannot experience, something that will affect your well being, so what, what comes after that, easy reductio ad absurdum arguments like this doesn't give you further information, so, the, for for


I mean for proponents who wants to say that, welfare can go beyond just experience it's very hard to argue from the point of death, so, what I, think right is that you have to argue it from, the living person ah


so the first thing to say is that, I mean subjective experience can be deficient in the sense of feeling physical pain ah, so your inability to feel physical pain means you might have, just have the inability to account for physical harms


which then, tells you, that there is a certain inability to account for, various uh some various uh, changes in welfare pertaining to physical harms ah, ya


ya ya the other, to say to to just talk about the pain is a bit, is not getting to the point, so, base on that, then I will proceed on to say that


oh-my-god what did I write, uh, cannot remember, , the I don't have time to do that already, yeah


oh okay okay , you because now you see right, you can you can


uh experience right, you can, your experience may not be able to detect a change in welfare right, because of a deficient in you physically speaking, and then also


there can be another dimension where, experience, does not have uh a a scope that's wide enough to cover, worldly states of affairs, so that's another dimension, so that's that's the one where it starts to


uh move from your subjective experience to, other people who is coming, from the third person point of view to access, the situation and the situation that you are in


for example like , the example that I use remember Ash was saying that , what I was saying that Ash was in the plane when he, he doesn't know right, so, if let's say at


T at the time T one, he observes that he his hand is getting uh pierced by the the used needle syringe right, then, the, from the pure observation point of view right


that's just an insignificant, change in welfare because is just a minor physical harm what, I mean if if he ignore the, if he ignore whether if he knows, uh that there's a risk of, HIV or virus infection or something


but then right, if let's say, it's really infected with HIV right, then, that pure, his his pure experience of observing himself getting hurt right, by the


needle syringe right will project him the wrong, change in welfare in, right the the the values the values doesn't fit, there are so drastic, right I mean the I mean the the the changes the the difference is so drastic


so how, so that that tells us that experience, I mean experience, is involved, welfare changes but is not good enough to tell you everything about welfare changes


so is limited in that sense that, okay, yeha yeah


cause I cut away a lot of unnecessary stuff, then, then I was, thinking, so after that, maybe we can we I I mean I will I will make a nuance stance ah


saying that , you you must have a you must have experience ah but then experience is not, the only, thing that, constitute to


the proper reflection of your change in welfare it can be other stuff, then from the subjective experience I will move over to the third person point of view and then look at how, third person point of view can


I don't know elucidate on like, there, like changes in welfare of someone else, right


, ya


I already I already spend about a thousand word, the the on what I'm writing now, so I need to spend an another thousand word write writing on the


so you had dinner at home or what, only, for dinner


(uh huh)


actually Tai-Seng has a lot of food over here what so you don't have to, I mean, you can find a lot of places for to for for dinner, don't have to go to Nex I mean of of course lah Nex is so convenient lah you can go and


there's udon over here also what, ya there's so many, I mean, opposite the road right there's a Sakae shop, there's a mall there where you see the huge Sakae logo, they have they have Udon stalls over there


from Paris, they seldom stop, cause it's like, well weird ah what can I say


I think they, deep fried, they fried, but before frying it right if I no wrong they prepare it maybe, in the oven for


a period of time ah, crispy on the outside but, juicy in the inside, no, ya is very different, ya I don't think basing current know


if you're talking about, Yan Yan-Shui-Ya then that is possible, cause like Yan-Shui-Ya they will uh, it's called like the, salted, salt water duck, they they put the duck


in the oven, when the duck is alive, ya than they will ya they will cook it, so like the duck moisture like it, jumping around than after that it died on inside, no ah but I don't think


the the the Paris restaurant they always prepare ducks in such a way, it was a very old restaurant, it's started often, the fifteen hundred, then, the name is call


ya by anyway is near, near, Sine-River, yeah, it's next to the Sine-River actually, and next to the, is that the huge


chapel is very famous, no is not Sistine-Chapel is not even in, Paris, Sistine-Chapel is in either way, is in Vatican church


the the the duck the duck is the best, the the Foie the Foie-Gras is really damn good, no this way better than the chicken liver


think because of the stuff that they they fat the dark, it's way smoother, yeah


then it's very juicy ah how how should how should I put it, it's very soft, and tender, uh, this is very weird, smell or taste to it


not sure whether it's people I mean like, I mean like I like the smell, but some people might not like it lah, cause it's too strong the the smell ya


no no no no it's no, oh but the, I had the rabbit, rabbit tare I think


ya, no no no, H A R, ya H A R E, you are the third, ya I was really wear bad the smell, it's really bad, it's worse than like


having dark, duck meat yeah, I couldn't finish everything lah I I ate a little bit and then I and then I gave up, by wasn't good restaurant lah, it was, it was just a a a, a cafe on like


the road side, the best, I mean food the like had so far is, that restaurant, and then, uh


the other restaurant right, like visited in the hotel, forgot the name ya it was in Paris also, I would I said that, hotel they create alone lah


that's way okay, see at the hotel right in front of the hotel is the huge, concrete area for National Day, and then beside the hotel, is the the American and and a sea, that's right I said


cannot remember the restaurant name but it was really good also I had, I had read by, best rib rice ever, what food you haven eating before


that's because you decided to turn vegetarian


ya cause they they will, they will stuff the duck, ya using the pipe


if you want good steak then it's hard to get, from normal, supermarkets ah, from Japan Kobe beef, and, they will have the the beef license


and they have the card there saying what's is what's the beef uh the what's the, the name of the, this cow, that's the expensive one lah


okay, ya it's more like a shoyu kind of sauce or something


do they


oh okay okay, or you can go when you have money next time what


wait where is it ah, oh okay okay, no lah, okay maybe next time, not now


I mean not, not, fourteen is okay ah


(ppb) yeah, how many


isn't that, isn't that the tendon, that's the tendon right, ya that's tendon, tendon is like this bowl of rice right, on top of it, oh oh okay okay, okay then it's sort of like


tempura mix udon


oh okay okay, I think I've been there before lah, you are saying the Kallang or, that's the the Old-Airport-Road, hawker center right


my grand my grandparents and my auntie uncle they use to stay there, they moved, to Bedok in the eighties ah , the late eighties ah


because it's it's over there I mean the buildings are over there since like even my mom my my dad, my dad's family came from there also, ya since nineteen sixties ah


, it's about half a decade, so you you need to, rebuild the houses over there and then the houses are very small only like four stories what, so they need to accommodate for more high rise, residential buildings in future so


that's because, in the past when they did the urban planning right they had


they did it that way so that there's a bit more space ah but, in recent years of course like we run out of, land for, ya so, you no longer can see such a trend, elsewhere except in Kallang


or maybe in QueensTown I don't know


uh, Punggol looks spacious on the outside but looks very cramped on the inside, ya when you get into the house, the houses you you ya, ya, the


the compound right, under within the HDB is very small, it's so cramped, like, some of their windows right the the distance between their windows right is just, between these two walls


but of course the, the waterway is really, really pret, really a very good view ah, it's very spacious ah I mean people can run and cycle there, actually I ran once I ran all the way from like I ran from Hougang


the #Punggol#-Park at Hougang there then I went, all the way, down the #Punggol#-Waterway, ran all the way right, the whole #Punggol#-Waterway all the way to Sengkang side, and then I went back home


that took me about three hours, no but I think I ran about, easily maybe twenty


just back in two thousand fifteen


[orh] okay okay, nineteen, but, I think when you are nineteen, the whole waterway is not, done up yet right so there are a lot of, parts that are still under construction what when you went there


(ppb)


no not interested in exercise, ya but, it's for the sake of, like maintaining a certain physical appearance like his was like, besides and and staying healthy eh besides that there's nothing much really eh


(uh huh), look good right, gain more muscles you mean like convert your


existing fats or whatever to muscles, you mean look I mean, when you say stronger it means looking more toned right, or like what they say straddled or something like that


, even I don't look straddled


no lah I don't think so lah, okay I mean, ya ya, the very balance, ya


balance, at least I'm not like Popeye you know, your cousin's like that, how how heavy is he


didn't show me, uh okay


now, okay, no is not weird


for him, seventy five uh that's about my weight also, oh that's him, okay okay that's interesting


I think he looks about my size I think or he's like way bigger, uh no I'm not as shredded as him, I I I don't focus that much on like


, he know those people who who goes on stage and then like, flex their muscles and all the, I think so, but I wouldn't want that, cause like for you to do that you


need to have a lot of muscles eh, but what's the point I mean you just have to look like, like this, like what I am now just adequately, just fine will do


that's very weird (ppb), it did definitely I will not, show photos to my, girl classmates and then say like uh oh I aspire to be like, bodybuilders, very awkward,


(ppb) , , oh okay


see what else, really latest makeup masking chair product, hologram makeup sheesh, skin care what what does it mean


by Hologram


sometimes, everything has its uses ah I mean and and and it's, significants, for using it ah


you don't have too, buy expensive phones ah you can just buy one, and then use it, as you when you need it


that's true


what TV shows, no, that's right right I I, I don't really have to anything to talk when


yeah, The-Nun, but is a bit disappointing you know because, is not as scary as The-Conjuring [orh]


the movie right, originally was, under James-#Wan#, he was one of who directed, The-Conjuring I I think, was it or was he or was James-#Wan# the director for


Insidious, but anyway, the original Conjuring wasn't under the Warner-Brothers, but, this movie itself right the Nun right which is the prequel of, Conjuring one and two right


was a cold film, with the Warner-Brothers, and they wanted to make it, if I'm not wrong NC sixteen, and then the storyline is a bit


I mean besides having demonic possessions and, and then the seeing the demon itself, you can you have zombies and then you have, old castles, that made it look


you know fantasy story, which are unreal ah I mean the whole point of this conjuring thing right is that it's real, it's a it's a real story by the way, uh The-Conjuring, it was based on this this couple


forgot their names already ah but uh, they one of them, the guy is a demonologist, or a medium, so they go around US to, uh check on


ya, perform uh, rites to, chase away demons, ya, and that's when the the female, psychic, uh


met this guy from, from Europe I think was like from eastern Europe and then they found out that he, he's possessed, but, don't know that he's possessed by


this, creature from, the the old, uh uh uh, what's that yeah oh the the convent where the nun stays, apparently there's this demon called Valak, that resides inside there that's like sealed


underground, so the guy got possessed by the demon and then, and then they, they're related, they're related


uh yeah, the Nun, uh predates earlier than, Conjuring one and two, one and two comes later, ya


it's not nice right, okay


(ppb), yeah yeah yeah yeah, she found the the blood of Christ and then she like, she's she, she drank it and then, feel it in this in your month this


it split out on the dirty man,


ya it's a bit funny


uh, ya ya the horror movie right ya


okay


ya, oh okay okay, oh oh she showed me I I think I will be interested too, to look at this


(ppb), no it's okay, I think I think I can I can sum up the, the, the scene


ya, no lah it's not scary for me ah, because I've seen cases like that, ya, , even uh, ya ya the body fluids the one that you talked about I have seen that before


there's always a purpose why she wants to she wants to do that what I mean to recreate


to sort of incite a certain, feeling in the audience the audiences, or to maybe pro, or encourage uh uh, thinking about death


okay, so she keeps it, oh okay, they burn it


actually a lot of Singaporeans, the the older Singaporeans die alone in uh in in their own flats, it's just that (ppb), we're not aware of it


most of the time when it happens uh, we are not the one there to, experience it lah, specially in the old the, uh, main places around Singapore that has more


elderly staying, frequently you have peep, cases like that


what do you mean by not talk about, controversies, the Illuminati or something like that, sensitive topics like supernatural stuff is it okay to talk about that


you have do you have, actually booking, your, your house is at Depot road right, I'm sure Depot road has a lot of those kind of, that's a I mean I'm sure Depot-Road has a lot all these weird


supernatural stuffs, you know Membina, it's at Alexander-Road Red-Hill area Bukit-Timah there, the, there there is a lot of supernatural stuffs on going there right, ya the other time that was a


that was a unit, is on fire there, then people took a photo of it, uh then, the photo shoot, in the fire there that was this lady who is wearing old, Chinese cloth dancing


in the fire ya, ya


about you have few experiences weird, encounters


weird voices like, someone telling you to do something


a local voice what do you mean


uh okay okay but, you didn't feel freaky meh at that point in time, when you heard something but then you you don't


you are really bizzare, how can it be fairy, it has to be something like scary instead of something fairy right


your your house is those kind of uh HDB, where it has it's long corridor right, oh okay okay


but but the, so the you stay before in the old one ah, so you know that, there windows right, only the the top part is is clear right where you can, ya ya ya the Indian lady, I don't know how she got up there but


she must have gone up there some how, either she was like levitating in the in the air, but she were she had this very blank expression when she was looking in the house ah, actually my dog at that point in time, she also spotted the the Indian lady you know


there is a shoe cabinet outside by the shoe cabinet is to the, to the right side it's closer to the door, the position where she was standing right


there was nothing there, so how did she got up, she couldn't have climbed it because, there was nothing for her to hold properly right, but if she move anything then we would heard noises ah but


no there are no noises like she was just there standing quietly, was a bit scary though, I think she, she was there for, a few moments


by I didn't really manage to, time how long she was there because, when I saw her already right what I did was I switch off the TV and then I ran back to my, aunt's bedroom, ya ya ya of course, then my grandfather was actually asleep at that point in time


ya he was sleeping at the, cause the we had a long sofa, and then in between the long sofa and the TV right the TV uh cupboard, there's this empty space for him to sleep, so he sleeping then the dog is just next to him looking at the lady and I'm I also spot at the lady


then the next morning I, got sick, then I started vomiting then I had diarrhea, for two weeks, then two weeks or one week plus


no you when you, when you're shocked you don't get vomiting, no wait but you get, you get panic attacks what, panic attacks are usually when you


when you feel giddy, when you feel like you sweat having cold sweat, that's like panic attack, no that one was really weird, it was more of like what, the the Chinese, always say that is not a bad omen just that you


just happen to unluckily unluckily saw, some supernatural stuff and then that, negatively affects your health lah then you just got sick, not there's bad omen


ya I mean if I were to use the, the whole concept of Yin and Yang like very loosely, in that very very in that very very controversial way, then (ppc) because the goal the ghost is like from, the ghost is from the Yin Yin side of the world right then like humans are representative of the Yang side of the world


then, when this when the Yin right when you come in contact with the Yin right then your Yang becomes weaken what, that's how you got sick, that's what they will say, (ppc)


ya who will, who in the world will wake up early in the morning at about six, of five plus, yes it's clearly a human face, is an Indian woman face but the Indian woman is quite her face is quite clean though


, there're no blemishes or whatever, but she had a very clear, blank expression which I choose looking in them like I'm so shocked, (ppb), that was the one time when I, really saw something and got sick


other than that, no but uh I had one, experience in Hougang, it's like , uh, I slept, uh and then I had


I think it was about early in the morning about six AM, when I dreamt of uh, a relatively young lady eh she was standing at the parapet, of the H of a a certain HDB I was brought there


ya (ppc) so I approached her and then she jumped, (ppc), the same day that same morning at six AM, someone opposite my, house, my bedroom window facing there jumped


I didn't know that, okay I think it was a woman until, (ppb) I think maybe, I saw her jumped maybe I don't know I'm not sure (ppc), ya so


I didn't know about the the jumping until, two days later when my mum told me that, my my mom told me that our neighbour the aunty told her that somebody jumped, opposite our house (ppc) early in the morning


that's like deja vu is it, (uh huh) (ppb)


oh, right, I have mine also, I think mine was a, mine was meeting my friend my secondary friend at Dhoby-Ghaut


you know the the


no we didn't, ya it was a coincidence


oh okay


I do realise that actually right, all these, deja-vus right, they occur, for very trivial stuff, trivial stuffs that, doesn't really matter


or you had, you didn't had it


I do, but I am not allowed to sing here, do not sing, listening to, Chinese songs


but now I find like there are quite a number of Chinese songs that are quite, that are that are nice


, depends leh, sometimes I, don't listen to the popular ones ah, the more


traditional kind of Chinese songs leh, (ppc), no, no no no, it's a, that's like oldies, but by traditionals, ya


like the <mandarin>古风:gu feng</mandarin> kind of, songs, yeah, (ppb), particularly singer , ya ya, for the traditional ones I think like it's good to listen to Zhang-Bi-Chen


you know who is Zhang-Bi-Chen ah, okay, ya she's good at it at singing, but there is there is this guy who


my friends were saying that I, my vocals sound exactly like his leh, Xue-Zhi-Qian, but I can't sing here so, do not sing you see


really, what, Luo-Zhi-Xiang, , , ya


like the the sound, the way they project their sound, the the, the word sia


oh okay what song does he, what song does he listen to, for Xue-Zhi-Qian ya


uh Yan-Yuan that is that's right


same same that's what I do also


oh okay okay, you can mix what it's okay, you can gather, besides Xue-Zhi-Qian right I think the other one that very close to #Xue-Zhi-Qian#'s kind of song and vocal right


would be Eric-#Chou#, yeah, right


right, oh okay, I know how to sing that too, I know how to sing <mandarin>如果已知或:ru guo yi zhi huo</mandarin> as well


but, just ask only meh you should we should ask more people we should actually Yan-Rong know how to sing also


I mean you can say generic names ah and then I, ah okay, I know who they are or they do they have a good taste for music


(ppc) ah okay, my I got a carpenter and all the, be those in, oh-my-god guns and roses


okay, (ppb), oh okay, [orh] I see


oh okay okay, why


eh actually I'm very shy too I don't dare to sing like without the original, yeah, yeah, but


I tried I think the day before I think or was ya the day before, with my friends ah then they were saying like uh oh you sound like Xue-Zi-Qian so, they ask me to sing like ya


ex classmates, oh okay okay, oh we went to Lola's-Cafe and then, Lola's-Cafe is like this uh, you know this this very like


hipster cafe nowadays that, that uh, people tend to come up with, then, (ppb), just interesting decorations lah I think, !aiya! you should just visit next time it's at Kovan nearby


it's worth visiting, should go, not bad, I had had, I had duck confit, yeah, anyway she she's doing fine I think she's a, she's a teacher now


uh she's under, a one year, teaching attachment, , then, ya by the end of this year I think she's going back to MOE, ah no she's going back to NIE again


for three if I'm not wrong for another one year or one year and a half, uh, coach uh, teaching prep, Chinese, then after that she she needs to ya primary school so she needs to finish her three year contract


yeah, no she's not under scholarship, so she's signing the MOE bond lah, , , I think she was saying that uh, the


the, the teaching environment is very different from our, our time, I think like, because different generation of children right, yeah, so, different culture also


like for example we, I mean during our time we don't use phones right, in primary school, but now in primary school they use phones oh sorry she is in secondary school ya so, ya ya and then like


they are already young adult, but she is quite firm ah, so, the students are rather, weary of her and then, they show more respect to her whereas


yeah, for other teachers I heard that she, they tend to be a bit less respectful, yeah, so is very, I think one of the the biggest problems, for today's generation is like I mean for when teachers are going to educate


teach the the kids right it's always about how do I gain their trust, and their respect, you you know in the I think in in the past we when we talk about education right it's always about uh, a certain, decorum, to to to that we must conform whereas students


ya but nowadays is not the case is it's about, is interaction, that builds up the trust and the respect for it, for one another as like students and teachers


peer right something like a peer ya


, yeah, talk there's a communication gap, when the age gap is too, too too wide, to their advantage right ya


yeah


what do you mean nice, like that, actually we are quite close lah


I can't divulge her, her sexuality ya but, she had a partner, and then we spoke, about her partner, so she is single now


she had a partner sorry, yeah, but she is single now, it's called wandering Europe


wandering along the periphary, I have no idea


what do you mean like I mean my dad grandma can, be someone of the past but how do I connect with her


recently when I reinstalling my Facebook then I will go and ya, last time are you using that, you don't need Facebook because, most of the time informations on Facebook is just, unreliable like half the time the stuff that they write


they are all, hoax, so for example daily mail, so usually what I do when I go on Facebook right is to connect with people whom I knew


and then looking at the, cute videos like Unilad but you will reveal the animal like, yeah, that's about it I don't do anything oh maybe maybe write some uh, uh it's like a critique off


scholarly papers I don't know, but not as much as like some of my peers are who who writes about them every other day on Facebook on Instagram, why do I need to show like, pee, the I I I mean why do I need to like talk about pee or not pee on Instagram story


you should go check it out please do it, alone


oh okay, okay anyway where what are you illustrating


ah okay, (ppc), yeah yeah, (ppb), !wow! what's this


hold on is this a female or is this a male, this is obviously a male, who looked at your stuff


and, okay but that's you (hmm), like you're wearing the same stuff that she's wearing like


this is nice, what's this


oh okay this is interesting, oh okay, why is it, why is it


like that, ah okay who is this Sarah, oh, ah okay


, [orh] okay okay I see, (ppc), ya


oh ya eh I'm going for the, the ceremony tomorrow ya, ya I mean formal just like a shirt and, the paints, ya, I won't wear belt


it feels from him, I don't like belts eh actually, it looks, you know sometimes when your, your belt looks like, it's loose and it feels like it's like coming down, it's there if like


which is doesn't look good


so I'm not wearing the belt tomorrow, and than dark blue, anyway if if you can sit is too late already right, it's okay


let them secretly judge, doesn't matter, traditional value right talking about that


ya why why I'm not really excited, I'm actually a I'm assign to table number thirty one, uh the


the, secretary for the association didn't tell me about it, all she uh said was uh you are assigned to table thirty one you'll be sit, I suspect I will be sitting with all the, members of uh the


the association then like, really


well if, if that if that the case right I wouldn't have a better one with you all, , oh okay, maybe lah maybe


I think it start about six, should end at about nine, I hope so


no lah, ya I will just eat my food, I don't think they are talking rubbish lah nothing is, nothing is essential is essentially rubbish lah the stuff that they talk about right, they pertain to real, issues lah, is just that the stuff they argue for like


that itself is problematic and, is not because like, the topic that they talk about is


I'm okay I'm okay, I'm not like, Le-Hai you know, I will bow to the Confucius statue


it's a form of respect, a form of respect does not mean, to be shown in one specific way, can be shown in many ways, so, what makes


this particular way of showing respect better than say, other way of showing respect verbal, showing of respect


(uh huh), oh


ya, oh okay okay, I have to be there tomorrow at about four plus I think, for the


run through, okay lah, and then take photo with them together, I mean if they give me the photo then I will post post it on Facebook


Instagram lah but, besides there, no lah if they don't give it to me then I can't post it right, sure sure sure, (hmm)


you can wear the same what I mean from, I mean that exactly what how men, man's wear it


get the ladies Skype ah


oh okay


, oh okay (ppb), , tailor made suit


that's interesting


not weird stuff lah but, ya, okay we can talk about, stuff pertaining to philosophy


actually, a lot of all these analytic philosophers are, all sliding to this mono psychology thing right recently right there is this trend right, this growing trend


descriptive or prescriptive you mean, so far as , morph philosophy right, is concern right, the standard view is always, prescriptive what


it's talking about descriptive science, so, then there's a problem, there's a problem because


how do you reconcile, the the prescriptive nature of your, your explanation with the the, descriptive nature, of your explanations, it's obviously two different things ah, to say that I ought to


something something something because, that this is the case, sounds really bizarre, , ya you cannot do that


actually right (ppb) moral philosophy and ethics right, analytic mono philosophy and ethics, overlooked the the point that, that


the the the point that Levinas focused on, because Levinas argument is, it's it's more (ppb) ya the face, there is some kind of ontological foundation to it, whereas, analytic philosophy just just presume that it is the case that human beings


have the dimension of being ethical, and and that being ethical is, too too much of an assumption, why, should we have an ethical dimension, when we consider living our lives


but Levinas accounts for it properly, if you have that, then, uh, perhaps that is the preaching point to a descriptive, and prescriptive aspect


because we because we don't see this we don't see this descriptive prescriptive conflict in Levinas uh writings on ethics


submit yourself to the other


no I don't think you can you can you can say that you can justify from their point because, uh in so far as you remember we had uh we had a conversation, with uh doctor Kwok so that that was like, you, there is no there is no sense of


the self but rather the self is a projection of, uh onto the world like, so there is no need to account, for the self when we talk about ethics, ya its more the ethics has has to do with the relation of you and the others


but maybe his his his uh, his account of uh, ethics right, the face and the others they are not very thorough enough lah


but you can see that, it it feels like so much better right as if like we were going in the right direction when we are, trying to establish ethics as the first philosophy, it has it has a very firm it feels like there is a very firm grounding


something that you, you would read and say ya this makes sense


that's like his her book on uh, what's that I forgot, something like ya ethics of ambiguity ya


no (ppb), how could it be the same when I'm doing Zhuang-Zi, why, it's like a if it feels like it's it's almost like a continuation you would think that Zhuang-Zi would would would be very much inclined to, to accept the existentialist point of understanding ethics and


than say like (ppb), ya ya


(ppb), , (ppc) (ppb)


the (ppb), I think the kind of freedom that, Bevour talks about right is very, why do you have to preserve freedom, I mean like if freedom is really that


absolute thing there out there, is choosing be preserved leh I think Zhuang-Zi would say that, you are already free, you don't really have to preserve, something like that along that line, and then that that's that's why he came out with


all the different stuff like why do we have to use something in one way when that thing can be used in many ways, so, in the same way why do we have to preserve freedom when freedom, is already, so (ppb)


she and Sat seem seems to have, very similar views on like freedom, yeah, like like how Saat says that uh we are condemned to be free or something, that yeah


but but Saat tend tend towards a very uh, negative tone ah intonation when he says that we are condemned, where's be for us, previous, stuns about us having this, freedom tends to be more positive ah


right, more encouraging of you


you mean like slaves or something right, she did talk about slaves by the way from uh in in Africa or something is it in Africa or


right right, I think Sat, #Saat#'s project was taken up by Kamu and when he's he's he's sort of, went further and talk about the absurdity of the wall, right


then it looks it it feels even more bizarre when you read Kamu stuff, and and and Kamu is precisely like after straight away after Sat right, was it all, Bevour first, ya Bevour then Saat


and, ah, I don't know but, in, in terms of how we the the the, the the audience which we went that those works, I (ppb) if I'm not wrong, after Saat it was it was Kamu


I have no I I forget how it looks like, I thought that's Bertrand-Russell


actually I hated, (ppc) (ppb), the, , there were few things he talked about (ppb) right he talked about , what's beyond rationality, and then what is the ethical


and then he talked about , the holy night, the !wah! the, the night, is the one that I hated the most, no no no no no no the night was different (ppb)


Abraham's one was uh about the, the difference between the ethical and, that is that depends on the rational, and the irrational belief of faith, the night one is different, I cannot remember but that was the first paper that I have to write


like and then like I I think, I didn't do well for it, I the reflection as well, so I didn't have a very good impression of, then, there's the genealogy of morals by nature


on the slaves, and the masters ya the the the revolting and then we talked about how, how, once, the the masters are overturn right, then, there will be a time where there will be sort of like equality


between people but after a while, then there will be the masters again, there will be a overturning again, so it's like a, cyclical process ah


ya I think so there's like, best even though he's really hard to read like, he's very is he's very hard to read, no, no I was okay, okay (ppb) I find Heidegger right


and Salt, very hard to read, because, Heidegger right, took his project from, remember we we talked to doctor Kwok, from, no not from Hegel from, from uh Husserl


right, and then, Salt was a, Salt was a, was critical of #Heidegger#'s work, so this whole lineage right, if we don't get it right right, when you read Heidegger and Salz right


you don't really know what he's talking about what's he's doing especially the part when Salz says that, he's sitting in the garden, at the bench there, and then, like there's this lawn as if like this lawn is like, slowly opening up to you or something like


like this like, it's just very phenomenal logical description which I did not know at that point in time right, back in two thousand and fifteen that it was phenomenal, ~ally speaking, it has to be read in in such a way, then you will think that, it's so weird because


your experience does not, appear to you in that, is this uh unfolding of, the , uh what's that in the, the world around you right, but he described it exactly as a certain kind of unfolding right


it's interesting


oh okay, okay we've we read that also, we have to read that, then we have to read the other one, yeah (ppb), paying in nothingness is harder to read


takes a lot of effort just to read one page, because it's very dense, but do you think he's clear in some of his points when you write


okay


everyone is what, uh, you wished, I thought you have canine


what about Kenji


doesn't matter it doesn't matter, he does that to you


you don't get intimidated by me what, I'm not right, cause cause uh


sometimes your point doesn't get through to me I think, yeah, , ya ya ya that's true I must I must admit that I, very quick to reject


(ppc)


actually now to think of it right we were talking about ethics, and Levina's stuff, I feel like change in I mean like, I feel like how we understand welfare has got to do with this, antagonism of the, me my the me and the others


(mmhmm), but you are living in us the a similar, dimension with the rest of the people leh, so in in that sense right


your welfare is always like also open to other people's, , so that's why right, there are times when, you may not be able to get your welfare right but other people can get


an accurate access, uh gauge of your, (ppc), not not not not I won't say accurate but, it's like , appears to be somewhat


better, like for example, ya ya


that's not epistemic what, really meh no what


(ppc), wait can you repeat again, yeah


ya, ya


reminds me of my welfare paper, ya I have the five thousand word next week eh, I haven't started even


Friday, I might even just SU it, really meh


they already sent me already, oh okay, ,


ah that's true, okay, we can have ten minute break right, exclude, yeah


another, another nine minute, !haiyo!, don't say already, I'm like (ppb)


dying, today how come


interest about what, oh okay


no, no time to draw, the only time I draw was at the artistic


use Wacom tablet ah, ya, , oh that's that's uh that's better


you don't need a computer


[orh] okay okay


I have no free time, recently I am like so preoccupied, my arms is like, he just finished, refurnishing her house, where my grandfather and mother, stays


then, uh it's very dusty it's very dirty lah so they called me down for a few times to clean up the place, so, (ppb), I'm always on on the on the go somewhere outside either either at my gram


grandma and my aunt's place or, I'm out with my partner, or I'm going back to school to do my work, barely have time to do anything


I'm a bit (ppb) skeptical skeptical about my my performance like this semester, I'm, okay I SU two of my mods already, the, ya the military, ya the military one


the tennis one, now I'm left with, uh, the uh no #Zhuang-Zi#'s class, well being, and the tourism, yeah, in the event the tourism one is not good right then I will just SU it


ya I am only last left with one SU, , three SU, in this semester, I'm I'll be left with one


unless I, I still have, I still have, I still have one more GERPE I think


we can use it meh for Gerpe, can meh, actually can leh, this this mod right the, this tourism mod right is LA, so what I'm surprised that it can be SU


ya gerpe LA, really, okay, okay then I should save all all my, ya


I try my best to, maintain my, my grades lah but, it's hard lah


(ppb) (ppb), I'm worried about the well being lah because, okay (ppc)


let me see how my essay works okay first of all I introduce, there experience requirement, and the argument for why we should, uh, why theory of welfare should, consider, must consider experience


they're nice, I say no because uh, or I was certain physical deficiency infilling pain, from the subjective experience, and than after that they will be list counted objection


where I was say that uh, there is this HIV things, and than it seems like although although experience, uh it's important, to, reflect


changes in welfare, it is not, it has a very limited scope in doing so, than I will, than I'm still thinking how to move on from there, from there right maybe I can say


really


I mean, necessary to have it but not sufficient


than I was thinking of, uh, looking at the same issue right, from the perspective of, uh, (ppb),


weather if it disposable for me to say that, (ppb), because the first few paragraph is was about argument on


how's subjective experience determine changes about welfare, mine our our own changes in welfare, than one of the arguments brought up will be saying that other people can actually, informal of four changes in welfare


now I'm I'm trying to, argue from the prospective of weather is possible for me, to to uh, to experience someone else changes in welfare, do you think is the same


like, oh okay now experience but, , (ppb), okay say for example


wait ah let me think


actually we are already


hello, is this okay okay so am I still soft, hello, hello, but it sounds okay what, but oh, okay I will


try to dot down there, that's okay I'll do it to yourself too, okay, is quite self lah, oh, okay , okay can (ppb), uh oh okay so we we'll continue


okay so the name of the food shack is Joe's food shack, so is just food shack, okay so you found through the friends, then


you've at the bar right, does your bar has a name, alright same okay then is the door push or pull, okay got the friends I have a push there


then, like is the rubbish bin next to the bar open or close, okay mine is one open and one close, ya mine is one close and one open


okay then there are a couple in the centre drinking wine, are they drinking red wine, okay same uh is it a guy in a green shirt and sunglasses and a woman in blue, same


is the woman's hair blonde, okay (hmm) is the seesaw, is anyone on the seesaw, okay mine too don't have, is the girl in the pink bikini


having a green ball, okay, then mine is different cause mine is not sitting on it, okay then is the beach chair red and white


ya, is the umbrella blue and white, , and then we move on to the old couple, do they have uh radio


same okay is the old man wearing red socks, okay, okay eh he is but he is not wearing socks at all, oh okay so I found six difference now you have one to find six


uh ya we need to find twelve, ya six each ya, (uh huh) yeah


ya half naked ya, but is on a brown chair right, okay


a trunk or like a one piece swimsuit, swimsuit right, so there's flowers on it right, then what's the magazine that she's reading


okay mine looks the same, is she wearing specs, okay so I think the old couples is like anything, oh I don't have white seat mine is both red


okay so one different yeah okay, okay (ppb), I think I still very soft leh why ah, okay I just hold the mic closer, I don't want to shout ya


no I don't have, mine is local shellfish, or do you mind to have a special offered or are you talking about the bar


oh okay I don't even have a special offer sign, yeah so, and we are but ya the bottle is red and yellow, (mmhmm), ya two


yeah, oh nevermind is selling shellfish, (mmhmm), ya mine only have shellfish, okay ya


yup, okay I guess so (ppb), (mmhmm), oh different mine is Paul and Joe's Diving School


oh okay both signs are different, so like my green sign only has an arrow pointing to the left


I have no signboard, yeah, that's the last difference, but I feel like there should be more eh like the number of fish and the number of birds, (uh huh) same, same is there a shark


okay then the animals doesn't have any problems, okay I think we found all, !yay!


king of fruits, that's such a weird question, I mean you don't eat and an entire durian right


no, you do ah, okay, so how many have you eaten, (ppc), okay is this picking up, is this better, okay, okay, ya yours is still louder than mine


oh hehe, okay, can I do at the friend cut


this card cery lame , ya you choose lah, maybe you are better, (ppb)


I think maybe like the big living room, cause, that old HDB flats are a lot bigger, at least like my old flat is not bigger I mean you have to back home so that doesn't count, (ppb)


yeah so which aspect of Singapore do you miss the most, why


but then when they there, rejuvenate Chinatown, vanity


but then, like that you haven't been to the old Chinatown what, but you send picture already is it, so how you know that is better, so so what what is the friend Daniel


(mmhmm), (mmhmm), ya (ppb)


(ppb), ah okay okay, ya, I think there's also a lot of like design companies down there, so


ya, like design studios, cause my friend is working at Chinatown right now so like her workplaces, the that are like design related is, very often like in the Chinatown, like Bugis area (ppb) so


I don't know I just, definitely will change one ah, (ppb), it's like okay, if you want to escape the crowds the best place to go is


Ulu doesn't uh, maybe maybe it actually means that but then like the way we use nowadays is a bit like, different, from the original meaning, I (ppb) don't know, okay


like very far away lah, remote lah correct, but you don't really go there to escape the crowd cause it's very crowded in there as well


is there like even anywhere where you can escape the crowd, okay that's true, ya, ya no way man


oh that day I went to the Kallang Sports Hub, then it's quite empty there, so I think not bad lah (ppb)


then you eh (ppb) , is that right okay


ya then you took a different colour


like is the like a particular HDB area that is like more Singaporean, cause I, you know I just feel like my neighbourhood area is very, different from other neighbourhoods, like if even if they are cause usually like the flats will


be like in a congregation right then they will like, converge together and, be in a cluster but mine is like, one straight line (ppb), and then one (ppb) straight line and the the surrounding is just like quite quiet


ya the first satellite yes, (mmhmm) (ppb), ya, okay


ya okay some is quite, it's quite empty eh I feel, now lah because they oh no it's we they took down the, the old bowling bowling center and they build, they're going build like new condos around it


so it won't retain the same like rustic feel as before, ya that's true lah, like but it's the (ppb) sense of the country, they should go to a construction site


okay (ppb)


okay, but why would they think that there is a real sense when, like the racial diversity is not really reflected, like like if you if you say that in the past they think that oh you should go to maybe not really like racially divided place but like


the more (ppb) like, related to, like ethnic culture that kind of thing, no no no because you said like oh like in the past maybe maybe like


they will say that to get a real sense of Singapore then you go to the racially divided place, but then that sounds, weird to present it in that way lah, like how far how far ago like how long ago are we talking about


oh okay okay okay ya so it ya okay then its racial divide because I was thinking like in the past is like what in the nineteen nineties or what, ya, okay okay okay, ya


okay okay, uh ya, okay understand, ya but I mean like if you are in Singapore everywhere is also Singapore so, you already have a sense of the country


is like is like it's weird to say this because it's assuming that there are there is like some parts of Singapore that is like a fake sense of the country, or that doesn't have a sense of the country, which is, weird lah


, okay so this question is problematic, I have no idea, oh is it I don't know, you saw already ah, let's not have this question


okay, this one is like gossip one, what's


, I feel like we are not very Kaypo people in general eh, ya, like I I also don't, really like snoop around, or like, try to get information


ya ya either, ya me neither (ppb), I I don't think so lah I, I can't remember, nothing stands out, ya, because there are people who are Kaypo what right


like you know some people maybe they ask intrusive questions that kind of thing, because they just want to find out more gossip ya


yeah the answer is right there, okay try to be polite to them lah like, you know if they clear my table I will say thank you and stuff, ya and then it's like like


like help in what sense, ya, ya


ya like like wipe if you accidentally spilt spill something, okay (ppb) I ya, ya, okay can we, like look at the questions then we choose one that is fine


oh you wanna oh you wanna listen to it you can see whether there is more interesting things there


(mmhmm) okay ya sure let's talk about art and culture, what are you reading now (ppb), I am reading


this book by David-#Sedaris# he is a, uh like he is he is a writer , and uh he he published like excerpts from his diaries, and ya that is the book I am reading right now it is called death by finding


(ppb), I mean there is culture to read right (ppb), they relate that to culture, I guess so


!huh!, (ppc) like, I learn about the book from, uh YouTube video lah cause he was doing an interview after he just publish the book, so I thought it was just interesting that he would choose to publish his diaries


then he is also I think a fascinating figure cause, , actually is the first time reading his book so so I don't know whether I can like judge, but is just like like he is demeanour, just wanted to see how life is like for people cause I really like quite like reading autobiographies


yeah (ppb), and philo stuff is like I don't really read like philo philo books but like, articles here and there that kind of thing like the journal articles, ya what are you reading now (ppb)


ya ya same like I do drums every day every week so I guess I am reading the answer


I do eh, unless I didn't expect he will go through the chapter for that week, but I try to, did he upload the micellaneous chapters, !huh! but then like next week is the, oh is the outer chapters right


oh so so you upload to the outer oh then can you send outer to me thank you, okay let's I don't know, that's nothing we talk about for reading oh what is your favourite book, you no favourite book sure