okay, ya I think by starting your day with a breakfast is very good lah, because you have enough uh sufficient energy, to start off your day or you can plan to achieve something at the end of your day, like maybe everyday there's a happy thing that you can do


to uh achieve uh or something you can do lah so everyday you just think of something, you want to do then uh you make sure you do it, so at least everyday you have did something, ya I think that is something you can do lah and then


I think starting your day off with a good breakfast is very important cause, breakfast is the most important meal of the day, ya in fact we should always eat a lot during the breakfast, then lunch uh maybe cut down then dinner is the least


so you have to moderate, so have to moderate, so have to moderate


oh okay I think the timing is also very important, because why why don't eat breakfast, why you don't eat breakfast because no time


not not like us can eat at workplace


(ppb) and bigger, so what else what else can we talk about, we can donate money to them or donate our uh second hand good


to them, actually I thought of doing but I'm not sure where can I do it, where can I go to uh


or have you tried to do any of it


I also have done before like uh helping out at a elderly uh, home lah so, basically we went there and then we help to, uh we just talk to them ah basically actually it's just to keep them company because, you know old people they are very uh lonely and stuff then


some of them they're left in the care places whereby, uh seldom their close family go and visit them, so we go there and make their, day much better lah like maybe talk to them or sing with them, ya so I think that uh


is a very good, uh good way of helping out also ah may not mean may not be money, uh money that you donate to them, but you can uh spend some quality time with them lah, ya then uh also help to clean up uh


I think a old old housing or something like that before like do cleaning lah, so can help in that sense also, ya then uh, so, so uh, actually


I think that helping, you can there's many ways to help lah actually I think donating your old stuff also, can be good to help, so


ya so, ya I think we can we should always help the poor lah as we when we can we can help, like sometimes I see those old people you know selling tissue, actually I also wanted to help them ah, I mean find that they're like very pitiful also they have to stand whole day on the street


ya so, so I wonder sometimes is it is their circumstances lah I I think, maybe they're not able to work, that's why they have to do these kind of thing on the street, ya so


or those uh old people maybe they are very old already but still working, uh at the hawker center all these, ya so those kind of people also, uh very poor thing lah, so we should always help out, help them out when we can lah


ya , then uh, so, anything anything else, ya I think we take a break first


take a five minute break , you take a five minutes break maximum ten minutes ya we take a five minute break,


oh okay so we continue talking ah , so we talk continue okay we continue talking, for another half an hour, I think for another half an hour, then you go lah then go to toilet lah


just go to toilet lah, like that like that can talk


Karang-Guni if I'm a Karang-Guni man I would like to collect uh, maybe magazines, so I can read read the magazine also , oh old watches, !wah! so smart


then you can sell right, sell for higher value, some ah some they pick up valuables item eh, if you manage to pick up the valuable ah !wah! Huat Liao Huat Liao


Huat Liao, ya some of them, ya you can't really tell by the looks, can't really tell by the looks, so


so anything that, anything that you want to tell me


but very oily Char-Kway-Teow, maybe the, Chared Chicken Rice


I think the Mala the Mala Hotpot, the Mala uh hot, hotpot is very nice then uh, uh Jia-Jiang-Mian, I like Jia-Jiang-Mian, and then uh like, uh Wanton-Mee Wanton-Mee all this


ya is also very nice, seafood buffet, but then I thought dinner we should eat lesser


but you are so hungry now ah


life purpose ah (ppb), I think (ppb), life purpose, I think life purpose you have to make, uh if for in order for it to be meaningful we should always uh, make make uh the most out of it lah because we only have one life


so we must spend our time with our quality time with our love ones, and also help the poor whenever we can, so I think uh helping the poor and, uh spending quality time with our love ones is a my whole life purpose


ya how about you, ya I also agree, and then okay any next holiday destination you want to go to


where is Saba, I want to go Korea


never been to Korea before so would like to go there, and then uh I heard that, there's a lot of things to see and eat there lah, so uh


!woah! ski ah, oh do you want do you like snorkeling, !woah! then you can go there


I think the next one will be probably uh next year lah, probably next year, go to Taiwan, I think have to postpone ah


ya lor so go, then anywhere anywhere that you're planning to go this year, oh ya what what is the cruise about go where


eat non stop ah enjoy lah basically is to just go there enjoy life lor, eat and grow fat


this year I don't think so but I would like to go Genting eh, that time we go Genting cause the you know the, no because the park the park haven't open, I think not yet, but I want them to go there and, uh maybe take the cable car again


ya I miss out the shopping, ya, ya that's why I would like to go back, maybe can go for a short Genting trip lah


free lifetime (ppb) upgrade, yeah


still have free but the free upgrade don't know where already I mean do you still have the contact, I also can't remember so we we don't have, so we don't have the number anymore


ya I can complain to them ah try, try complain, complain again why you always complain say must not complain so much, !huh! why still complain


ya I believe they should have record, sue them (ppb), no lah I don't think can sue them lah, but you you can make them compensate the breakfast, the breakfast make them compensate


ya, that is the worst thing that ever happen, so anything what's worse than, I think but at least you are not, not the face lah at least, at least I think not the face


so is not so bad, at least is somewhere that people cannot see, ya, and then, ya because your tummy, your tummy, your tummy got scalded mah


then uh what else, what else, where else you what would like to go do you want to go to Europe that kind of country, ya came back, ya Germany


ya so, uh I think, really can I mean they can sustain two long distance relationship or, maybe uh have to fly over lah to each other convenient


K, okay, so, I think that uh, hello, ya I think that, so far we covered uh most of, most of the topic


yeah, most of the topics lah so, last time what was you internship like do you have any internship, oh Nursing ah so what did you do the Nursing


oh then how, is was it a difficult difficult job, but is is a very difficult job for you then ah


because you have to take care of the patients, patient oh because most of them they are sick, is it that they are


being a, oh okay okay, okay so for me internship was quite a easy one ah, that time my internship was at this small company, so basically just uh, do whatever we are told to do lah so nothing much


K let's continue, so let's start from uh let's discuss the this picture, again okay okay let's discuss this uh picture again


this picture so we can see there's a cafe, there's a pet shop there's a pharmacy there's a toy shop and then there's this uh, sales betting shop, and then there is this antique antique shop also, and then uh you can see that there's two only two ladies here


one is pointing towards the pet shop, in a stripe green shirt, the other one is uh wearing blue shirt, uh and then he's she's also uh bare footed, and then taking a pair of uh pink color heels


so uh, okay I can see that there's not much of people here then the sky is uh very blue, and then uh, uh, there is a, there is a cat also


uh seems to be sleep sleeping


Chinatown, I think that uh the Marina-Bay-Sands, because the Marina Bay Sands is a very beautiful place, uh ya I think in there's if there's a very nice uh sightseeing I can do


ya ya so, why why you think it's Chinatown


(mmhmm), okay, every what


what are things that, you most Kia about most that means like most scared, the thing that I most scared about, I think that uh maybe cockroach, I'm scared of cockroaches, uh lizards


like basically those uh pest ah, scared of those pest, then scared uh scared also scared no money, that one also scared, so uh not say everything also scared lah but, basisally basically scared of uh pest lah pest


ya and then uh, what is the most interesting conversation, you ever had with a taxi driver, actually usually when I sit in a cab, uh I wouldn't, I wouldn't have a conversation with


the taxi driver lah unless the taxi driver wants to have a conversation with me, if not I will just uh, don't say anything lah, so but, depends ah depends on the cab driver see


if the cab driver have a lot of things to say then uh maybe can talk to the cab driver, but how about you what is the most uh, what what kind of conversation (ppc), what kind of conversation you have with taxi driver


thought of rubbish thing, then what are you most Kia about most scared, why scared of death, scared of death


scared of death or scared of no money, which one more scary scared of death ah, both you scared, I think scared uh no money scared no no


no money to, no money is scary lah, generally right, what would you what would you queue for in Singapore, Hello Kitty no wonder no wonder no wonder McDonald the Hello-Kitty


four D ah, !huh! four D, lottery very important


testing testing, what what can you do to help the uncles and aunties clearing tables and sweeping floor, return your tray, do you help to return tray


sometimes only lah, sometimes also (ppb), what is the one thing, about Singapore that should be preserved for the next generation, values


eh how eh how then how well do you know your neighbors next door, why you hardly know them, I also hardly know them actually


Singapore we don't talk to our neighbors one, we don't talk to neighbors, that is uh something but I think it's good to have neighbors uh if you can talk to them eh


then it's good if we can talk to our neighbors, and then maybe you can make friend with them maybe might be your life partner next time, all your neighbors are married


then how, Singapore should be the next hub for what, for what, why you keep adjusting your why you keep adjusting


never mind just like that


so, Singapore Singapore should become the next hub for, shipping trading, Singapore will win the World Cup in


I do not know when, I think is hard leh, I think is hard for Singapore, eh what what event in the past year make you stun like vegetable, unbelievable


I think the song unbelievable is (ppb) very funny, what event make you stun like vegetable, got any event


oh the fire ah, oh because in in China, Taiwan oh is a I think is a party is it, I think is a party


then they uh they are doing the party halfway then something explode, yeah, ya I think that one is very scary stun like vegetable, what are you most Kia about


scared of death, what is the most busybody thing you ever done


ya busybody thing, then just say ah just say any of it


too (ppb) many things to discuss, tell me tell me, eh <mandarin>很像:hen xiang</mandarin> not meaningful leh <mandarin>我们这样:wo men zhe yang</mandarin> <mandarin>我们什么:wo men shen me</mandarin> conversation <mandarin>来的:lai de</mandarin>


I feel like killing you eh, I've been great, I've been great, tell me tell me your most, busybody thing you have done


what is the most busybody thing, like you ask people about what, !huh! what thing you most busybody about


a lot of rubbish, like what, like what encouraging stuff, your career, what are your career goals and aspiration


okay, for my career goals and aspiration also uh, to advance in my career, also to earn more money, uh then can uh have a progression ah in the career


so, what drives you uh I think money lah I think money will drive you in a career, and also the job satisfaction, yeah, so


ultimate aim is to uh earn more money, then we can go travel, ya earn more money and can go go travel


the next place I would like to go will be uh Taiwan and Japan, ya so would like to go there, uh bring my mum over, and then uh, will also love to go to uh maybe European country


ya that one will be next time ah next time, maybe have more when uh more money to spend, then can go over, yeah


then what is your favorite restaurant, ray restaurant Singapore, a lot of restaurant


oh I also like uh Swensen's ah, and uh what else, the, there's this uh Hot-Tomato


Hot-Tomato ah, I like uh Subway also, I think it's very healthy, because it's more of uh vegetables all these, ya what is your comfort food go to meal


comfort food like when you're feeling down what do you eat


bread all that ah oh okay, I think uh comfort food would be maybe soupy stuff, like uh, those porridge lah I think the A one porridge is very nice, the A one claypot porridge


and then uh, I think the latest food trend do you have any idea what is the latest food trend, ya like any trend any food trend, what kind of food trend


cafe, or cafe like uh those uh, those uh sandwich, those uh sandwich right, those sandwich one or like uh Egg Benedict


Egg Benedict or like uh, maybe hot chocolate or something, then uh what new restaurant you planning to try next


any new restaurant, jb ah but what what kind of good food, jb has


jb jb there's this very famous uh, fish head, fish head curry right, the, (mmhmm), Mickey Mouse


!wah!, (mmhmm), okay, okay, so, no I haven't been there before


so uh, yeah, okay, so uh what what is the most memorable meal you have, where did you have it


(mmhmm), fine dining okay, yes I tried before, at the uh last time at the Esplanade


(ppb) honeymoon, what else, uh, meaningful stuff all this meaningful stuff , (ppb) is it okay


think it's important, important to keep fit, because uh, we need to take care of our health lah, so health is the most important, because you need to have uh health first then you can have wealth


yeah, so we need to always keep fit, and then what exercise do you enjoy


okay, (mmhmm), okay I enjoy uh cycling also, Badminton also


and uh also running jogging, all this, and then uh where do you enjoy exercising usually I will go to a park, or I will go my neighborhood lah to do, or like go to uh those waterfront parks


ya so, ah waterfront ya the waterfront there, and uh, so, any uh, in your poly what course did you take is it difficult easy


(mmhmm), okay


oh, okay, I think for me poly poly I was doing uh Human Resource, Human Resource Management, so uh that time was quite uh easy, uh it was quite a easy course


so uh not so difficult and then uh, uh that time I also took up uh, a internship internship attachment, I was with a company


uh and it was quite okay lah nothing much, ya , so uh, so, you want to share you want to share problem


maybe you can you can share first, okay you can share what happen, what kind of problem you have, so how any mid life crisis you have


what kind of mid life crisis, so so not much of a problem lah that means


so no so the problem is can be solve, solution, okay


so uh any exhibitions you have seen, what is the most enjoyable, exhibition, I don't think so ah


exhibition, no, what kind of what kind of festival what what kind of what kind of festival


night festival ah oh then what plays have you gone for, any plays, uh both


any plays you've gone for, (ppb) any plays I think not much hor I think like those plays usually also quite expensive right, so we also don't go, no money don't go no no money to go


no money no talk, no money no talk ah, go where also, go where also (ppb) need money, stay at home no need money


correct correct so uh, so, so how uh, pa system


describe the place you call home in Singapore, your home ah so your home is where, go back to where one come from so describe the Bukit-Batok


see the moon but everywhere can see moon what, where is your Gui-Lin, oh


oh okay, for me I stay Woodlands, so Woodlands you can see uh, Malaysia custom, you can see the Malaysia the sea all these, the traffic jam then you can see that the shopping mall also very crowded


ya then there's also a waterfront there, so how how how, ah yes I'm staying with my parents, and a brother


how about you, what is the most busybody thing you ever done


no I want to know I want to know what a busy body I want to know what a busy body you ever done, I want to know tell me, tell me, Joyce, what have you been doing tell me


then your friend got do busy body thing also, three eight, three eight six, three eight six four, so got lah


a lot of things eh then what thing you scared of, only death ah, you scared of death more why you so scared of death, eighty years old only


eighty years old only, eighty years old enough already lah, eighty lah eight zero, now she how old, she only want to live one more year


why why, why why why why only want to live one more year, is life so sad for her, (ppb) economic crisis


then you only can then you must tell her cannot, cannot be like that, only one more year live up to forty years old, she's thirty nine and then want to live up to forty years old


, so now uh, now is what time, six forty what do you usually do


six forty (ppb) yeah six forty, (ppb) look up for the sky, why you look up for the sky


oh so you look up to the sky, six forty five, okay, oh so okay lah, so what do you want to do for today


so you still want to see the zoom zoom do you think its worth visiting, the sum sum


should visit once once is enough lah, I haven't been there but I saw the pictures ah, my my my dad tell me there's nothing much eh, ya just a one whole area of the lantern


it's actually (ppb) crap so actually no need to go also can lah see picture is good enough, but see picture is good enough ah


maybe we can go sing K, maybe we go and sing K later, I want to try you want to try go Causeway Point, then we do the the small karaoke again


or you want to do #Teo Heng#, okay, okay lor then we go Teo-Heng ah


then what you want to eat later, what you want to eat later, eight plus or nine


or we can go and eat somewhere near, somewhere near, !huh! bread why eat bread


not eat bread lah, don't eat bread, don't eat bread lah bread not nice, hamburger


what healthy food, Subway, Subway is nice or eat salad salad is healthy, salad cannot be fulfill your hunger meh, cannot meh


no, whole cow now , wait you want to eat whole cow are you sure, you sure you can, so we will continue talking to, about another how long


so we have to decide where you want to go later, ya, maybe we can go Bishan


but we need to eat right, so we go Teo-Heng Teo-Heng got where, !huh! so far, too far, we can go Woodlands ah


can go Woodlands, Woodlands is near my house, let me check, let me check the Teo-Heng


Jay-#Chou#, and the uh Deng-Zi-Qi, ya I love her her name English is what, Gem, Gem something, there is a Teo-Heng at uh


Rendezvous, Star Vista, Suntec, Junction Ten, I think we can go, J Cube, I think Woodlands ah


Causeway-Point, about half an hour, twenty minute, ten minutes to, ya I think we can go Causeway Point eh


because the rest like all Tampines all this, ya lor Bedok, Sembawang, Tampines, have you tried the Marina Square the hot the


the the porridge, the nine ninety one, is it nice, what is the ingredient


oh, okay, then, uh no but I I try the, try the steamboat ya the four tier one, four tier steamboat, ya it was quite nice


yesterday I went, the four tier ah the Pagoda that one ya you tried before, they got the sauce at the top, they got


Mookata, a bit lah, uh abit lah, it was a, base is the, uh, soup, then follow by the grill, grill one, then follow by the sauce then the on top you have the steam


part yeah, then there's a lot of uh seafood also have they have, then they have uh chicken they have meat, they have the pork uh beef, also have uh vegetables, uh


all the balls lah all the chicken ball meat ball, can just take whatever you want then there is, ah, then there is uh ice cream also ice cream buffet, ice cream buffet


ya which is quite worth is lah cause can, you you can buy from the fave uh app the fave voucher, so it only cost only about uh, twenty one forty, twenty one twenty one forty, but it's for weekend it's for one pax


uh one pax ya for Friday Saturday Sunday it's uh twenty one, then for I think for weekdays will be cheaper, weekdays will be maybe about seventeen


so, so later we go sing K, then we decide what to eat, you very hungry


so we just decide uh, maybe you want to describe the picture to me again, describe describe, then you want to tell me more uh, talk talk about life tell me your your life crisis


, recording record your emo, tell me your emo stuff tell me your emo stuff


okay you share with me later then now you want to talk about what, talk about food talk about food, talk about food what what food you like most, what you feel like eating later talk about food leh food is meaningful


they say the topic is talk about, what what food so what food you enjoy most


house downstairs there's a very good western, ya maybe next time can go , ya western food, then you like uh Aston Aston


sure sure why not, sure free food is the best, there's no such free things in the world, really got got free things eh


oh recently no I didn't attend, been awhile maybe you can invite me, maybe we can go during Christmas, Christmas go during Christmas


so what you want, so so what you want to eat later, what you want to eat later what you want to eat later


why your phone keep ringing, why your phone keep ringing, so did you gossip a lot, you gossip, why you got why you so busybody


!huh! why your hobbies (ppb), why your hobby is busybody, cannot cannot like that, cannot now we are recording recording , (ppb) recording our voice our lovely voice


our lovely voice here, Joyce voice also, no , so we keep laughing, so we laugh at each other, we record then we can we hear it so we can know


so we can hear and then we can listen, can we listen, why we should record ourselves, then we will know how we talk


then your oral will fail I think your English last time oral fail , your oral sure pass or not, then you must describe to me, you must describe to


you can take a break, take a break, I think it's about time (ppb) I think it's about time right


so uh maybe we talk about, talk about something, let's talk about uh


let's talk about shopping, shopping you want to go for any shopping any skin care, make up products, you want to go shopping what do you want to shop for, what what you want to shop for


what do you splurge on, no money, no money meh, what you spend on, what you spend on, why no money


why Bo Lui, why you Bo Lui leh, Bo Lui then how, Bo Lui then how no money


no money cannot enjoy, now the iPhone X come out already, X S ah, come out already right, will you buy it


oh so you don't like iPhone ah, I don't think so lah it's too expensive I heard one is about two thousand eh, ya


ya I heard there's a lot of queue also, ya lor


ya I don't understand why they can queue, queue for the phone, think is a bit too ridiculous eh, like why would you want to queue for the phone then pay so much for it


maybe ah maybe they're rich also, maybe they are rich then can spend


I agree cause nowadays people don't usually talk, so they usually use their phone ah maybe WhatsApp lah, then uh seldom talk to people so I think it's a, very bad


ya, technology I think our technology is very advanced now, so we can use our phone to do a lot of things


like you can do payment or, payment also can you can use your phone or use the Grab, uh to book a cab, you can use a Grab Grab Food you can deliver food to your house, so actually the phone has a lot of usage lah


ya you can do a lot of things with your phone, ya till they only uh they don't even talk to people they just keep using handphone


uh don't talk at all, ya, so, so the phone actually is a bad or good, but the good purpose of the phone is that you can


yes I agree


now we still continue we still have another, another ten more minutes


let's enjoy our last ten minutes, let's talk about something more meaningful, tell me tell me your troubles tell me tell me your troubles, tell me your mid life crisis


tell me tell me your lit mid life crisis tell me what you busybody about, it's it stated here a busybody, come let's let's do a last round, let's rub wrap it up


let's wrap up our our conversation, what have we spoken about so far, so far we've covered parent's child children and education, student's education jobs and career food, cars and motorcycles


(ppb) holidays, shopping entertainment hobbies fitness and sports, art and culture, so we have covered all these, and then the this card we also have covered mainly a lot of it, why not we just take one card let's just play a game


let's play a game now, and we will just uh shuffle the card, and then, ah yes, !huh!


, really maybe that will happen I don't know, okay let's let's do this now, let's do this let's do this card, let's do this come you you take one card, take onen, take one card


take take then you answer, yeah you take then you ask, game ah (ppb) game is uh basketball, ya basketball


why basketball, why, yeah, the work that you do is super


if you could be a Karang-Guni, antiques, local talent which Singaporean dead or alive do you most admire


out of the topic like what, tell me, why you ask this kind of thing are you a beauty consultant


!woah! very long already, very long, maybe about a month ago, how about yourself, oh why you always have free free facial


anything else you wanna ask talk about, what is the best Lobang you ever receive for share, describe your Singapore dream, free voucher no leh I haven't receive any free voucher


no leh you have, you have, what kind of free voucher


from where, from where, from where, why uh do you, no I haven't the teacher who made the biggest difference in your life


do you have any teacher, oh then what what do you still visit the teacher, long touch ah cause long ago, I also have a tuition teacher very nice


but also lost touch, so uh, reduce stress ah you can, uh listen to calming music


then you can uh maybe share share with someone, share with someone your stress or trouble you have, ya or you can uh talk to someone lah, talk to someone, ya I think talking to somebody is very important


then uh you can always, uh maybe spend some time alone, ya spend time alone and uh reflect, so


ya meditation also can meditation is also good, , ya how about yourself how do you reduce stress, exercise yes


okay if, ya correct, okay, if you if you could teach a Singaporean students one lesson what will it be


one lesson don't use phone, don't keep using their phone because the young people nowadays, they keep using the phone, or you want to how what you want to teach them


one lesson (hmm), manners ah you think they have don't have ill mannered, not very well mannered lah, but have you met anyone that is not so well mannered


I have I have met one kid hor in the swimming pool right, then he uh just scold vulgarities, so I think that is very ill mannered, the kid is really very ill mannered, so I don't know lah is really


very uh hard nowadays I think parents parents play a very important role, to teach the students or the the the child, ya, the child is very important lah to instill the


ya is very important to instill the values in to them, ya, describe the most famous person you are related to, ya most famous person


famous leh your mummy not famous, Hua-Mu-Lan , Hua-Mu-Lan leh, !aiyo!


Hua-Mu-Lan why Hua-Mu-Lan


mummy is the, mummy is the best, what do you complain about, what do you complain about, why why how how what do you complain about


okay tell me how do you define success


Zoe-#Tay#, then what else, I like Felicia Chin, Felicia-#Chin#


who else what what singer you like, other than these two, she, she, she I also love


we talk for two hours Joyce we talk for two hours, we talk for two hours, !yay! !hooray! !hooray! !hooray! !hooray! !hooray!


your you got Jio your friend come, Jio who, why, then Desmond coming ah, so all of them come ah


oh, so they will also talk like us so they'll also talk like us, so they will do this also, do you find it very interesting


I get to know more about you it's a interesting session I find it very good, that's very good, stop playing your phone , stop playing your phone don't don't be the


PayLah no, I use PayNow not PayLah, I PayNow


why you like so why you keep using your phone can you stop using your


okay, test so I do, I must speak in this volume, is it, is it better, okay


so maybe we start with, this one, this the option one, ya spot the difference, so you must compare both together uh right, you must compare both right


twelve I think is twelve, okay that's one, okay, so let let's do what she advice, okay, you go ahead


on the left I also have a toy shop, with two bears, so there shouldn't be a problem, I also have two prop


same I have a pharmacy with a plus sign, I think we have a few differences here on the left side I have


peel boxes on sale on the right side I have, extra shine with pearl toothpaste, okay, so down with


mine has a yellow wall with four cracks as well, so I think the difference is the colour of the wall, okay, actually it's the same


so that's not a difference, I have four as well, I also have three birds


three white birds, that's right, we can move to the there's a aeroplane, above, the right side of the pharmacy, one aeroplane the wings are red


okay, so that's not a difference, moving to the right side, of the danger the top right there's a green building, so I have, total of one two three, four panels


the first one from the left is empty, second, panel it has a black guy, with a, so that's a difference


five cards, then the third panel there's another one saying place your bets, so that's a difference


the last one, the last panel, there is nothing there, yes that's right


I don't know a name on the shop, okay one more difference, yes there are two birds above the shop


mine is a shop which sells secondhand goods the sign says, sell your secondhand goods


yes that's the same, yes I also have a cat, outside of the shop, yes I also have a bench


my lamp post has no sign, okay I'm not keeping track of the number, one two three four five six seven yes that's right


mine she has nothing in her left hand, okay, yes I also have a bird dropping shit on her head


I think it's a pie I also have a pie


alright pass yes that's right that's the same, yes that's right I have the same thing, there are three condiments on the table


yes I think so, mine is different my signboard reads Pete's pet shop


yes I have the same things, ya I think it's a bird, yes I have the same thing


mine has a doctor sign


yes I also have a small kid, at the, in front of the shop pointing, with her left hand on the door, she's wearing a stripe green shirt


how many do we have already, one two three four five six seven eight nine, yes mine has two chairs as well


toy shop, my two bears are both wearing ribbons, so I think that's another difference


so we have one more difference, let's look at


I think it might be the cafe because the cafe has nothing, ya, so my cafe the signboard has a cafe sign


with a, yes red colour, with a pie, with a hot pie on a dish, my pie is also brown in colour, but my pie looks bigger than yours


okay so we are done with this, can we proceed to normal conversation, actually I think I have a fever eh, no I'm not sure maybe I'm not getting enough rest


when I was sitting outside I I I I felt like my my head is burning, so ya, hopefully , okay so


I I am not sure if there's a timer, I I I have no idea, but I think


I'm not sure as well maybe you can ask, the lady when she is back here, yours are not getting anymore voices on the graph, okay, just make sure that we don't have to act, extend this session so that we can go back


no is too loud, I still have to go back and get dinner leh so like, like let's hope that this one ends pretty much on time


okay let's let's start with the, the card, we are talking about how there's no timer here so how do we, manage to see


oh okay I see, yes they should be in minutes, okay let's, go on to the card game, have you seen this before, small, small talk


okay do you want to do it, maybe we can figure out how to play this then that's part of the part of the deal here


actually I realized you are taking two cards, isn't it


so I think, maybe this is how like we take turns to ask each other this this question did take, maybe, ya


okay (ppb), okay so maybe we can play a an internal game whereby at the end of the, the game we see who has the most number most same number cards


oh maybe as well, oh okay, but who awards the points, as long as you can answer the question that means you can, no hard and fast rule okay then let's just do that


so what's the biggest similarity or difference between your generation and your parent's, I think it's about how, how the Asian culture has


eroded I guess, like our parents are still, more traditional in the sense whereby they hold traditional beliefs, superstitious things which are not, not really, scientific, so, in that sense it


it help, it help, ya, I know right, so like I was saying, so back back to what I was saying


Asian cultures so they are more traditional, whereas the younger generation in in the sense they're, they because they they study more, I would say they study more, as compared to my parents, so they actually they have more grounds based on science


or like common knowledge or stuff that they learn at school, overthrow the beliefs, that our parents might have, or even our grandparents for example like


how the religion okay I think religion is banned, okay let's not go about the religion, yes not showing


ya I agree, ya I agree but I but this is actually this was, my, my point actually but then it it it covers, religion because even, Christian parents won't, participate in the Hungry Ghost Festival which is why


I was saying that let's not talk about, religion, okay, so next, so I have three points so I'll keep this card


so you're getting a free power bank from Apple or what


free power banks, Samsung, it can't be Samsung supporting an, an Apple


anchor, oh but I don't think it should be, like Samsung because Samsung is still their competitor


maybe it's it's one of their partners or something like that, ya don't shake your leg, so


actually I'm in need of a powerbank right now do you have a powerbank, ya my phone battery, same, I think mine is roughly around the range as well mine, okay


okay so but then you are currently using a Samsung phone so you, you want to change to a iPhone or what, oh I see


I'm actually interested in the new iPhone but I have no idea which, ya precisely the, that's the


oh I see Huawei so Huawei, I didn't know that Huawei is one of their partners, ya actually I think Huawei is another phone company, so I'm not sure why they are giving out maybe they it's like a marketing stunt


for them to pull the Apple fans over to Huawei when they, realise how good their powerbank is, not bad


maybe like it's a it's a tactic for them to promote how their products are good, so that, maybe consumers will think that, their phones as good are as good as round, so maybe that's it I don't know


ya I mean I would think so also, I would probably get the new iPhone but not the any other new Huawei phones, I guess that's that, so okay so that's that's two points for you, the


one local talent, which Singaporean dead or alive do you most admire, I think is it political if I say Lee-Kuan-Yew , okay, so I


I guess I, I I guess most people will answer Lee-Kuan-Yew as well because he's our founding father, and without him I don't think Singapore can be, she is today, I think she he's the, the person


he's the person, dead person that I most admire right now, ya


oh I think I remember I think I went there because, apparently you can skip school, skip school yes, no I don't think it's err wait is it uni oh


no but like I think we excused from like tutorials or lectures when you say, ya something like thar, or is it the, the other guy the, ya Rajaratnam, it might be him also


ya ya ya I think, I think the one that I was talking about is the Rajaratnam, secondary school days, maybe let's let's let's


talk about, personal life, so that no err but but we can, keep this, keep this in the meantime, treat this as a normal catch up lor


no that that there's no, is random so is, is only if unless we have we we ran out of things to say then we can use these options to help us, continue the conversation, whereas I think we can speak about anything as long as it's not race religion or whatever


so let's do that, so you came from Queenstown, with dinner


a chair for your room or what, who sat on the chair and then it was broken


oh okay then that that means if if we can find something, nearby with food then we can go and eat, maybe we can do a quick one, I think now the current minute is what


twenty minutes so that means we have two more hours (ppb), okay that that's gonna be ten o-clock, because I I was outside I had an appointment for facial


no is a different one actually, no is is, is not free it is it's it's just on promotion on the app Fave, then you know what the the funny thing is because like I I think facial they have their


their like parent company so apparently, this this facial firm or this facial company is actually, owned by the same the same owner as another facial that I went to previously, so when I went there I actually saw the same sales consultant (ppb)


who was trying to sell me a package the a facial package, from, from my facial, I don't think so because I actually went ya so like when I entered the, the facial salon then then then she gave me the the look like like


like the recognize like like she immediately recognize me, that kind of look so I was like shit shit, like she she will know for sure that had I, will not be buying any of the packages I am just there for the, promotion is not free I still have to pay


is just that the the discount it is is a huge discount as compared to what, they are trying to offer me if I sign up for a package


no okay so so I, I was there at this new new company but the new company is own by the same owner, yes so so they have my details also so it's it's, they have my details such as my ic so is almost impossible to say that I am not the same person


but anyway they they didn't ask if I, sorry excuse me they didn't ask if I, I was , the same person or not they actually just said oh because you have been to our sister company, actually we were we were going to ask you to


refund the, this this, this voucher instead of using it, but since you've already used it then we will go ahead with the facial, so I was like oh okay okay can, I think


through the app where you can actually request for a refund so that, you you give back the voucher and then they give you back the money that you have paid from the voucher, or because they


they they always have the mechanics whereby you must be a first time customer of, of this current thing so that it, people will not keep buying the the promotional facials and and then, exploit so


ya but then they they still have the T and C, for the, for the thing itself for the for the voucher itself, so technically if I were to buy a E voucher again and then go, they will say that oh because you're not a first time customer blah blah blah blah


now it's it's still in the grey area because the I'm I'm, it's it's still my first time to this company but it's not my first time, ya correct so, technically they can't they can't reject me per se


I actually bought the voucher for like a three sessions thing so that means I have to go again if not I will just waste my money so most probably I will go, but anyway, what was surprising was was that I think since they already know that I am not going to, buy a package after the facial itself they just ask me to sign and then leave they didn't


they didn't have any like , persuasion or asking me, to sign up a package and and stuff like that so thankfully that's, that's good in a sense, let's look at the time it's been only what


five minutes past what we last check, I think maybe like two months (ppb) ago


maybe I would think so, I'll think that maybe they they look at the person since I'm already there with another fare voucher, so I think maybe they, they cannot guess that I'm into the, into the promotion deals and stuff like that instead of paying the full price


for the facial itself, I was under the impression that they would be more slipshod about it but apparently they're still pretty


pretty good I would say in a sense they did not cut corners or whatever, at least to what I think, so hopefully that's that's the case for the rest of the two sessions, they they book it for the next month


but I'm not sure if I'm gonna go there for the next month because I've few (ppb), facial, facial things, three sessions, no but there's no, there's no saying of how


yes correct, so for the first one actually there's a an expiry date but as long as after you've used the first one they did not state that you must use the, remaining two sessions by when and when and when, so I guess that's the good thing so I can delay and I can go wherever I want to


let let's talk about, your your new job then


so what time do you actually go home then after, I think they, if she ever comes in she will ask you not to play with the cards on the table, because it's making sounds it's it's, you can you can use your hands to play with


play with something else


oh this right, do you have any choice


I think, please don't do this if not you will have have, spikes spikes like this, that's the closing of the cap marker, I'm not gonna stay here any more longer than I should, so, so please don't do funny things (ppb) you you can play


play with your own hands I think that's pretty silent, I would think so, so that means from like four pm to six pm you can do do nothing at all


do you have any Wi-Fi in the bank no right, oh and then


oh, so so bad, someone actually knows the password and gave it to you lah


I guess so, so so so they are all pretty old lah


I guess so plus I don't think there's a lot of traffic flow to your, ya so


that's a good thing, speaking of which I've yet to receive my card, ya


so like apparently there's there's no use in calling the customer service and, no I didn't in the end I didn't because, like I check with the customer service and, then they were saying, because actually, I know from from their their end that


the ones who issue the credit cards are not the, the the banking, the branch itself, so it's like the back end the like the card issuing, ya something like that, so


technically I thought that there wasn't any point plus I have already called in, to to speak to the customer service officers, I don't know I think from from from what I heard I think they are still Singaporean


but when I, but when I, called in there is an option for me to choose either English or Chinese, so I guess if I actually choose Chinese, ah you see there's a spike, this is the spike


please don't please don't delay anymore, if not then then you will bear the consequences (ppb), ya I think more conversations


in this room okay, so ya lor so I, I haven't called in to to request for , for them to expedite on the card approval process, because I was going overseas and then the promotion is the best so I actually asked them but then


they said okay okay like we will send an email to the team to let them know about this, this issue, but then apparently they are still not getting back to me at all, I was coming in, how come you have small


small sounds like that is it, ya like ambient, ambient noise or something, so then they say they will send to the, department blah blah blah blah blah err but then


nothing happen when I came back, I was half expecting to see the card in my mailbox thinking that oh this is damn late already, but nope I have yet to receive any card at all, I actually use the the other


no there's this other uob one so it's called the mighty FX, it's a debit card but then the the, the rates of the currency err conversion is a lot better than, the usual like bank


if I use a if I were to use a credit card then the, the thing is a lot worse like the rates are a lot worse, so you don't get the best best rate available whereas this one you can just use your App to convert, on the spot then you can use your debit card


so, yes the current live rate, and the current live rates are pretty much close to the, the actual rate, maybe just slightly slightly lower but it's not as low as what the the banks are giving


so that that was the card that I used, nope there are no fees there are no fees involved for for any transaction so it's it's free conversion it's, so if you have leftover Euros then you can convert back


to Sing dollars at no extra charges, but of course the the currency is slightly different nah so you will not get the rates that you change lah, it's maybe slightly lower but the difference is not big lah, I would say


your have Euros if you have leftover Euros, you might change more mah, ya, so you can change to, so, it's it's it's a it's it's a multi currency account


so that it has like a a lot of currencies, so when you use your debit card as long as your, as your balance, your that foreign currency for example if if if you are not talking about Euros then talk about, Yen for example Yen you convert from Sing to Yen


so you have ten K Yen and then you are making a, a nine K Yen, transaction then it will deduct directly from the ten K Yen, but whereas, if you are making a, eleven K twelve K thirteen K fourteen K fifteen K


then it's gonna be, from your Sing dollars because you have not enough Yen, from that side, ya I converted a lump err actually it it it depends I I converted a bit


I converted a bit, of, of stuff, or currency, because the rates wasn't, the best, then, after that , when I went there then I convert on the spot


thirteen K is three K right, so you have three K but the rates you use err like err on, whatever day


no no no no no you don't get any points so the downside is you don't get any points you don't get any mouse you don't get any cashback, that that's the downside but you enjoy better rates so I guess it's, it's because


ya so eventually it's it's still ya you're saving money lah so is the same thing lah, if not you're you just using the you are paying for the points or the mouse or the cashback is the same thing


and the rates might be lower than the rates today, so but but even if the rates are better it's a lower rate then the better rate so, eventually whether you get it or not it's I I think is a bit hard to say


I would think that I probably wouldn't use the uob err the boc card anymore because, it's it's it's good for general err actually it's good for, for both general and overseas spending, but it's only until the end of the year, so it depends it really depends on when


I am err getting the card and then if I get the card and then it's like November so that means I only have two months, then, so the point that you the bonus points that you can get, for for this two and five times then then it's it's gonna be just two months which


unless I have like a very high, expected expenditure then I will use it and then after that I can convert to miles, then I will use it if not then it's probably like, being put aside, ya lor


ya correct I would I I think so


I think it's a one to, I am not sure what


ya ya that's that's normally what, that's normally what the the other banks offer but I if I am not wrong the, they still offer better normal rates, than the other banks maybe like maybe you'll have one point five or one point eight I can't remember, maybe you one point five


cannot lah different bank one cannot cannot stack together as in, as long as it hits the minimum points for


for the bank for the respective bank that you're looking at for conversion then you can transfer already, but you cannot say like the reward points from from this bank and the other bank you combine together to, to reach a minimum to unless they are the same bank lah like the same bank different credit cards then


you might be able to but different banks for sure cannot lah


I think it's I know for DBS it's ten K miles so which, which requires five K points, if I'm not wrong or or or ten K points for twenty K miles because that's that's that's the rate, so I'm not sure which is the minimum but and then there's a I don't think it's ten thousands I think it's twenty five


correct lor so it it , so we should let it people are all saying that it's damn lame and then, I know of people like I saw in the merlion chat saying that if let's like, I I think some people were sharing about how, they actually call in to boc to say that they're no longer interested in that card


and then since they already applied they don't want the card anymore then they want to just cancel the card, then but then they were advised saying that they, they cannot cancel because the card is not even, err like reach them yet or whatever lah, so it's it's damn lame lah


I'm not sure leh, you should know better since you're working there


eh don't do that lah you see the spikes in the thing again, you want to stay here you stay here yourself hor


ya lor ya lor, eh eh there's a current promotion at the DBS multiplier account, I think there's a referral promotion but then okay lah it's it's not a lot lah I think is like, you get, I think you get, both of us gets credit if I do a referral


so I think once you sign up I think by twenty seven is it twenty seven, I know is a few days promotion, maybe, must sign up for a multiplier account, err I think once you sign up you'll get five dollars, which is damn lame


ya correct


[orh] ya okay lah it makes sense lah, because, then you'll have to try to hit the five five hundred dollars lor


!huh! so that means you don't get the one point two percent at all


I know the I I am on on both I think I I read that people are using it, I guess is better for families lah because families five hundred I think it's it's almost, very easy for them to hit with all the groceries and blah blah blah blah blah


no ah but then you can get like a like a supplementary card or something, oh ya ya ya


ya correct, this is only if you want to this is only viable if if, if you are using it for like selected months and then selected months you are not doing it, then you can do that lah but then if if if you want to do it every month then is almost impossible lah


quite tired, so but then if you ever take a break ya lor then it will just it will it will just


but then I mean, halfway we will have to take a break one lah have to go and pee have to go and, do like rest for awhile cannot keep talking for like straight two hours right


hopefully that's the thing, oh, it's it's it's saying things that I that I said , oh okay it it say that we shouldn't read out the instruction pasted on the wall


!oops! okay let's let's let's move on, so do you have any luck with your interviews then, what, but you that one pretty early right as in that one was like the start when you join join this current firm


oh it was later, oh why leh


oh ya ya ya


make sense make sense, so the but the Philip capital one is is, popular pay is lower lah, so see


Heng Suay ah so so so what's the role that you want, oh so I back end ah, so currently are you are


ya, other than that so, how is it doing now


I think a bit ah


or now actually I'm buying the regular ETF which is to fulfill the multiplier requirement as well lah, so but then I I think, no it's the I am buying the abf


abf index or something, no it's not the first one the the the first one is the Nicole am, which I sold because I changed err programs, I changed from the posb invest saver to the multiplier, so you cannot have the same etf that you bought so I cancelled that one then I bought the abf


you hear the there's a there's a lag time that you must fulfill, I think it's six months, you you cannot have the same, you cannot re buy the same sick, err six months as in cannot buy the same


same etf, err within the same six month, so that that's that lor so I have to change to the, abf, to get the interest rates so actually I don't know if, whether it's worth it a not but now the, ya I I I decide a fixed amount every month


mine is actually just to hit hit the criteria lah so I put the minimum one lor, the minimum is just hundred, ya correct so you you you, you go write the amount because the price changes every month so you


so you don't know, so, I think we call it the what, ah yes that's what people always try to, sell


it it's a good for a long term investment you don't have to manage lah you don't have to look at the price blah blah blah blah blah, but then the the returns are, going to be minimum lah if if there is any, !wah! actually I cannot remember at all leh


ya so like one hundred dollars sometimes it's it's it's more expensive then you get lesser lots lah, then it's cheaper you get more lots which is why they say is dollar cost every drink lor, how much how much you put in for the the the stock that you were talking about is it a lot


ya Valuetronics is it Valuetronics, how much is one lot you you're saying, so you bought ten six K lah


eh recently I I I just got my Singtel dividends not bad leh, I think three point three percent, so that means how many lots you buy, one lot ah how much is one lot


do you remember, three point one six, oh three K plus lah ya correct correct because I I also got one zero seven so I was thinking, actually, I was, actually I can't remember I I I think is one lot also lah correct ya correct correct correct


one lot because is three three point something and then I times one K so ya, I also bought at a relatively high high price eh, how much you bought at


oh I think I bought slightly lower


okay la but then, but then this kind of blue chips you can hold for a long long long term lor, eventually when it it it, like people are saying that maybe the dividends will be it were, it will cover back ya so if the price goes up, hold for very long lor ya lor


but, blue chips are for you to hold long mah so actually I I kept it as a good, as in I I I use it as a good starting, platform for my stocks ah because now, the rest I'm all I'm I'm more heavily invested into crypto, then very recently the


drop a lot drop like mad and then I was, I was shorting and then it it it it went it went down, so I sold my shorts and then thinking that since it went down it will go up again, then I bought a long, so when I bought a long and then then then it start to drop even more so now I'm in the


rate lah but then like past past few days, reaper is making a, an amazing, an amazing recovery I think like what two days it, two days it jump forty percent eh


eh you cannot have any you don't even have any, ya


different because different coins have different technology different, but was a different, things that they are good in they're they're doing or they wanna do, so I I I read, saying that the people you going out because they're when they're, the the the founder


says that the ex ex ex what ah, ex rapid is coming out and then, like so and and it's going into the, the the market they are, actually going to and and banks are gonna


adopt it so that means you can use your crypto to finally pay for things which is what, the the dream crypto world is about lah to to use your coin to pay for stuff and then, replace currency blah blah blah blah blah, that is the point as in


for thing like that there is always speculation there's always saying oh it's a Burah or it's a Ramon or it's a dumb and punk, err pump and dump, so like, err you go up you go down, whatever lor


after I, when I saw that it it when up ah then I sold two of my, open trades, then after that it went up a lot higher Sian if not I could have made like seven hundred dollars more, usd, damn shit, I have


I had six open trades I sold two, which were the the which were in a green, then now I have four more left lah four more, two two in the green two in the red, one but one one of the red is


going to go to the green also, then the other one is, ya I open trades at at at at different prices lah, like when it when it goes, when it dips then I buy more when it dips then I buy more lah but then


suicidal if it just keeps, dipping lah because you're just gonna put more money inside and then it's gonna dip even worse and worse, so, I I bought that thinking thinking that the Ripple will go up again lah which now it is going up lah so Ripple is the, is is now my best coin and my


in the, my crypto coins err portfolio blah blah blah, ya lor that so like, people are saying it's it's


it's technically gambling lah you just you just pump you just just, go in when people are pumping and then, and then ride ride ride with the wave, like people will say a lot of things lah like say oh like, how how they create fake news


to let people think that oh like like it's gonna go crash, like because you can shop along what right, so different people have different interest err interest at, that like their own personal interest, so if they say they're oh it's a pump and dump then maybe they are shorting, that kind of thing so that people are are scared then they will sell when it's you know


at at at at the at at that price and then they will go down then they will earn money short shorting lah, so there are a lot like fake news like that then, and stuff like that lor so it's it's never, determinate


ya lor like like you can never expect it to go go where lah so, err but then they were saying you you have to, err put in crypto for a long time lah which is a bit scary lor seeing at how the prices have dropped


ya, so so you can earn very fast but you can lose very fast also, ya you'll like you'll never know when is the best time to get out


so that's that's one of the thing to, to note lah, so, hopefully it just it just goes on, keeps keeps going up for me so so that I can sell, my coins, hopefully and and like get out of the red zone


six open trades but that's only for ripple, now ah or or previously now is like I think it's close to sixty cents


no it it it depends on the amount, whatever amount lor it works the same way, so like you wanna put in five K then five K divide by sixty cents then you get this amount of, of of lots, ya zero point five nine cents zero point six lah uh ya both cause they sell in the


sell in the by rate it's different, ya I mean if you if you want, actually the what they say is is really like


ya speculation gambling, you you put in the amount that you can afford lose lor that's what they say


oh I I use, they they have they their their fees are, like they don't have [orh] they okay they only have fees for


withdrawal and and and it goes by per per withdrawal it's twenty five usd, which is okay if let's say you've been making a lot lah like if you make hundred dollars you'll get, twenty five dollars it's is a bit more lah but then if you trade more, then, then you will, you will it's it's a small percentage lah if you have if you have better profits


but then again when you buy, there's a difference between the buy and the sell rates so so straight away they they will have a it it it depends on which coins, so like the better coins like Bitcoin Ripple, the the best is like within three lah


or or three plus is the best I I had once like this stellar coin, !woah! the difference is five five percent eh, so that means when I put in one K for for example then I straightaway lose fifty dollars, so which is like lame lah but then if you expect it to


that time I I, I didn't realise because I was just start started so like so I I I just saw like the price is low then I didn't check the difference, that's why I just, put in but luckily in the end, I managed to make money lah cause, I think like things like that ah is is not for those people who very Kanchiong one my


my friend who first introduce me this App for the crypto ah he, very Kanchiong like he will check he will check everyday he will check, check a lot, how many times in a day then when it drops a lot ah then he will be very scared then he will sell, like he'll like like he, I actually like, to cut losses lah I I actually


no but, err cutting losses is one of the technique that people should do what, as in from from what I read lah, if a stock is crashing and then you should have a baseline whereby, if this one drops more ten percent or twenty percent or whatever specific percent then you should cut your losses and then


you should reinvest into something else, like you cannot keep holding on to things, but for I I I as in I think different people have different, philosophies when they invest lah, if you can, if you if you are those


I'm the, opposite one lah I will just hold for the long term cause I I I hate to see myself losing, so I I wouldn't, but they said that it's a very toxic, it's it's a very toxic thing because it's it's just like how the Lehman Brothers if it crash overnight ha, then you hold hold hold hold hold you see the signs of warning like it just keeps dropping ah but you


decide to hold it out ya, think that it will go back up then, eventually you will just lose all your capital also lor, eh your your voice is damn soft


ya lah that's that's what people say lah put in what you can lose but I I I think, even for myself I I I also put in more than what I expected because like when, when the dip comes then I put in more when the dip comes then I put in more, like because if, because I have the as in because I am a long


like a a hold, what they call hold so when it makes sense for me to buy in at the dips, so I just bought in at the dips lah but, but now that I reviewed, like as in now now my in in in hindsight I I I think that I, when when things are going into the green ah I think if it's sufficient


if like for example my my Ripple, all four trades are going into, I like they're all, in green already then I will just sell and get out, all of people, err and and get that that profit first lah cannot be too greedy also sometimes when you are too greedy ah it just crash then same things lah the the cycle repeats again


err that that's my plan lor, but you won't then, you'll always look back in hindsight !wah! Sian I shouldn't have sold now, I I I I I sell now would, grave, profited a bit more like a lot more or a bit more blah blah blah that kind of things


you never know lah, ya lah correct [loh], speculation now lor then like what what like, your your skills of analysing or whether it will go up or down and then so you will see whether your skills are


as in your your analysis is correct or not [loh], so far I have been, earning money yes but now like, err paper loss [loh] I I I only have my paper loss is more than my actual earning lah, so if I sell everything now I will be losing


but if I hold on to my paper loses wait for it to go into the green then is, eventually is your profit lah, okay [loh] ya [loh] like that, last time I used to be about six hundred eight hundred like that


ya [loh], Bitcoin Bit Bitcoin is recovering also six, last time it was eight K plus but now I think is six K plus only, ya six plus


cause I I, cause I Bitcoin, but then you might miss out on the spice lah if if if any lah, you you have in in what what's your


so that that's mean now ya paper losing lah, paper losing, in the paper lose, halfway market to go


tax stocks, oh I I think


stocks, I think I heard before also even dbs has, like us stock itself then but is is damn lame the for the us stock they require you to fill out a physical form and and send it to your office


which is what I've been procrastinating lah because like, ya is is damn troublesome then I was also hesitating lah because I, my my friends will pump into crypto so I was like !huh!, am I going to really into that plus I I don't think I have very


I I I don't have a full picture of the stocks lah, if whatever I I have is like, I just read people opinion blah blah like I I didn't go with white paper that kind of thing, so which is like what, what , I feel like I should do before I actually invest the stock


or unless is like a test like a something for me to learn lah, something you need lessons mah, like you if if at this point you you follow this this this this this and you are, you analyse that this is this should be the one that you should invest then you can test test something lah


maybe I will do that sometimes or when I'm free, but now like I just came back blah blah got a lot got a lot of thing to settle lah, credit card bill, but will you trying


!whoa! damn Sian lah like like I think I complain to you before what the, as as in I I think, honestly, is different in in this case, because I'm, I'm already working I don't have the leisure that I used to when I was studying


when I was studying I have like if I if I like breaks and blah blah blah, don't do funny things lah later you have to extend, so like you you, when when I was studying I I I have time to, to plan ah I I've more time to plan ah


adequate time for me to plan and and then so it wasn't an issue then plus I was, I've no income lah so I I can I can just, take it as like oh I'm planning and then my mum is paying so it it works both ways lah to both interests, but now whereby I've limited time


I I was rushing to send out all my my send out reply all the emails blah blah blah, but, !aiya! like as what they say lah your your work can never finish, like I was trying to clear all my outstanding work before I go but then like


ya so I've to plan for the trip blah blah blah, is is damn tiring then, then I have to then then, I don't know why just nice like my friend came from Canada to Singapore, then coincide so the weekend is burn, then the then the other weekend I I made an impromptu trip


okay lah is is my fault also lah I made an impromptu trip to to to Korea also, that one also ate up my free time blah blah blah so, but previously when I was in the hospital I this is the one that I, was lamenting to my mum lah I was like !huh! like when I was


slacking at home in the like during my hospitalization leave then you don't want give me the, cause, but she her her stance is also that she's working and then she's she's busy lah


then then, then ya lor , okay lah as in in a sense she might be right, but then it it's it's just very tiring on my side, for for me to do all the very last minute , so ah I was very fed up with her, I told her to, to give me the list of places that she is interested in


like I I didn't ask her to plan the whole itinerary because I, I know she cannot do it like as in is not she don't want like she cannot, she she lack the the skills or the, whatever lah like she, cannot do it lah so I had to do it, so I just I I just ask her to pick out the


places that she must see like for example if I wanna go Paris I wanna see I must see the Eiffel Tower, I must see Mona Lisa for example, blah blah blah so like then then then she was damn slipshod about it she she went to Chan Brothers she went to Google, then she went to see some travel agencies


err flight itinerary and and and what they did, then then she just copy and paste, into the the the list like as in it, into the information that she wanted to give me lah, so I was like !huh!, are you sure you wanna go to the Cathedral this is one of your must see ah


are you really interested in the, in the Cathedral blah blah blah because I because I, I I've been travelling with her so I kind of know what she likes what she don't like like she's not a fan of museums at all, neither am I but then like like, ya lah correct lor then eventually you know they they actually they didn't go in leh


because I was there at, I I I have been to Paris what so I've I have been there before, so I went in err to see Mona Lisa previously when I was a exchange student there and then it was free lah, so I actually went in lah, obviously so now I was telling oh


no I was an exchange student so I had an an err Germany student card, but anyway it's it's for, yes, per per se but then is also there's a limit also it is for use under twenty six


so I was under twenty six then, and then I had a student card so I managed to get in for free ah, so that that's that so I was like oh, actually I have been there already and then is nothing fantastic that I want to go in again the second time and pay twenty plus Euros


so if you want you can go ahead lah, then they were very indecisive they are like !huh!, don't know whether to go or not then then then eventually is like a blame game lah in in the end, in in the end, I I was like, I think you should go because you're you're in Paris and then is like a world famous painting even though is is quite


quite underwhelming when you actually go there because is just a small painting is is not as magnificent as you imagine, but I I I feel like there are this are things that people talk about in in history and stuff like that so like is a, ya is is something you shouldn't miss out on so like then


then so Louvre is in the picture then as in Louvre is in the list but I was asking so you want to go in or you don't want to go in, cause if you want to go in you can buy tickets online and stuff like that ah, so she was undecided then I was like oh okay lor then you decide already then you tell me lah which eventually she didn't, then when I when we are actually there


err err I I told her okay so today we are going to go go to the Louvre so do you want to go in if you go in then I can, I can , I can I can I can go and find another stuff for me to do myself lah so that we can make plans, uh because they they will go in and then I cannot be be be just there waiting for them what right


ya, not abandon lah but like for, ya as in because, ya, that's my impression err err as in but I left it up entirely up to her lah I was like


is is up to you whether you want to see it or not lah but I think you you should see it so, ya so, ya, so anyway, eventually she didn't okay but anyway back to the my my my my initially point was that she just copy the, itinerary then she gave me then I was like !huh!


you you sure you want to this places meh you don't lame leh like like things I ask you to do you're giving me so last minute and then yet you are, you are doing this kind of stupid things, like you just copy and paste like you are not even, putting effort in to this then why why why should I, like as in you want to put the cathedral there that that means I plan to go to the cathedral there


then the day itself say !aiya! okay lah actually I am not really interested in the cathedral lah then I then then I will flip what, as in, ya lah like in the first place I knew that you're not gonna be interested unless you're really interested lah then I've got nothing to say then I plan for it then you go, then okay lah


eventually I was like !aiya!, I I was very Pek-Cek lor like that with with all the planning then it was already very last minute also what so I have to find time to do then she still give me this kind of low quality, stuff like very very slipshod then I was like, do you wanna do or you don't wanna do one if you if you wanna do then then I just plan according to what I wanna see


and then for example if if, like since I have been to the the Louvre then I won't go there at all lah, so


some something like that lah so like she she just, no but like she didn't even Google the places like the famous places to see she just copy paste give me !walao!, this one if I, really want I can just go the website and see myself right, so anyway they they then my mum ah


is is is not the very Chin-Cai one leh if she if she's really the Chin-Cai one ah, ya like like, then then like she really has no opinion about where to go and where to eat blah blah blah so I can plan everything she will, she she will just go she she will just tag along with me


then like she will think it's okay it's fun it's it's nice but then, she will ask eh we're not going to this place ah eh I I I, like like the the the famous place what then I'll be like !huh! you didn't even include in your list, so so like she will she will potentially ask these kind of questions lah which I


am expecting so I was like, I I know that you have expectations you have like you have opinions you have, my my dad is the more passive side he he will like [orh] anything lah, he really doesn't do anything for the planning like he he just he just goes as if he's following a tour


she she she don't know mah cause she don't even know until I tell her like okay if I tell her okay I'm going to this restaurant, then


then then she will ask oh what's the, what's the restaurant menu what's the restaurant famous for why are we going to this restaurant, I remember the, there was this one, one one incident when when we were in, Amsterdam ah so I plan to go to this


err this, no no no this this cafe with good views over the city, then, then we were walking we were walking for like err a good like, half a day already it's like three or four four pm, so we walk from like maybe, in in the morning until now lah


then we are all very tired then we want to find a place to sit find, find a place to go lah and then we don't have any where else in the area to like no no other attractions to go already, so we were like okay lah we can just go go to the cafe lah since it's a it's it's something that that was recommended by people lah then I saw


then she is like !huh! is there anything else to see the area or not then I check, like err don't have leh like like the the the nearest one is maybe like half an hour walk that kind of thing which is, quite far lah, so I was like err so, so I suggested okay maybe we go to the cafe lah we since we are all tired can go there get a drink and and and eat


a bit if you want then she's like err, err maybe we just walk walk to the the another place [loh] like the, the other plan which is later at night which is the red light district lah, then I was like if we go to the red light district now because is five five pm four or five pm


there's nothing there like people are not, not the the, ya the the the the people are not not not out yet for for you to go and visit, if you want to visit in a day and then again at night then okay lah but then is, as as in is something that you can do but


I I I I will prefer like just just go in the night the day there's really nothing much to see, then she's like err [orh] okay then she's very, very indecisive like she doesn't want to say that she don't want to go to the cafe, but then she doesn't want to say like she doesn't know, where else she wants to go


then I was like so are we going to go to cafe, then it's like err, the she she she don't want to say no leh, so she just left it, like like then no then she ask my father, so so how you want to go to the cafe or not


then my father is very chin, very very very anything what so like he's he's really, go with the flow like err, anything [loh], ya ya so is like, anything [loh], if if you want to go then just go [loh] then then she's like err


then she ask us the same question is there anything else in the area to do or not, what else to do, my dad is on the fence what so is not, then then she's she's like so what is the menu so what is the food there so so


are we going to get then I said err, I am not really sure about the menu but then we can just go there and see lah if we if we don't want to eat cause she is saying that she is not hungry, then like if she don't want to eat then, I said if you really don't want to eat then just go there and and get a get a drink lah or like we can get a drink and then can just


hang out lah, so then then she's like err, err ya for sure I won't eat one, ya but then we we, we we had late late dinner as in late lunch also lah, so, so so that was like then then then I gotten fed up I was like


so what do you want to do, you better decide now, then she's like err, !aiya! then, then oh no so I I actually propose another, alternative because I I think she has the impression that from from what I gather like she thinks that because the place is


is is , has nice scenic view then is like a restaurant or cafe kind of thing then it's gonna be more expensive, so I I think price is is one of her concern also because she, no she's paying (ppb)


ya so so, so she's concern with the price, it's it's a valid concern lah so I was like, okay lah if you don't want to go to the, err cafe then we, then we can just walk lah then we see at any cafe that, that you're interested in and then the price is okay then we go in lah then she don't want also


then I say then what you wanna do, then she just err she don't know where to do, she don't want to do whatever I suggested then then I got damn fed up and say, so how now, so how now, eventually we were like oh


okay lah we we sit down on this bench lah, then then, at at a random spot lah, I was like okay lor then then you sit down here lor then I go and walk around myself, ya lor so so so I say okay lor then I go walk around myself so I went


so I walk oh walk around myself then after that came back then she's like !huh!, so how, but this was very already really unpleasant nah I was like, why do you have to do make make things so difficult if you want to go anywhere then just say lah, then if you don't have any better


suggestion then just go to the place that I or or or just take something lah don't leave it hanging say eh don't know where to go ah, where they go now where they go now where they go now then you, then you also don't don't know then you cannot decide, so like


at the end I I I force her I was like, so you want to go the cafe, if if you ask me I want to go to the cafe with the nice view you want to go or you don't want to go it's a yes no question, then then she say, since you wanna go then go lor, like like very


unwilling like that so I was like, no but but I but I didn't wanna do do anything like like, she'll if if, ya, I don't want to do that plus


no but but anyway this trip was was actually for me to plan for them one because they haven't been to the places that I that that, that that few cities lah so even though I haven't been to that err cafe or restaurant, I I was okay with not going just that I don't have anything else to go


so so I was like it's a yes no question you wanna go or you don't wanna go, then she say since you wanna go then we go lor as in since you wanna go then then, then go lor so I was like ah this is a very simple question leh it's a yes or no leh, you just have to answer yes or no if you say no then we can think of something else if you say yes then we will go


so like she fails to get the point then so I was, I got very fed up I was like it's a yes no question how come you cannot answer straightaway, so direct you want to like turn around and say if you wanna go then go lor, in the end when when she she decided to sit down as in before she decided to sit down and say okay lah go lah go lah


then no lah I don't wanna go already, no but as in I I I don't want, I don't want to go knowing that she's, unwilling to go


err but as in my my, my style is if I know the people are not going to be comfortable then it's it's going to be uncomfortable for me to go go also lah like in that sense, I I not to the extent that if I'm happy then then then can already I die die must go, like because


I know that for for her eventually she will say things like oh ya lor you see the, the, the Ah-Kai wanna go one, that kind of thing, ya she'll she'll she'll say it this kind of sarcastic remarks so which is what I don't like, and I don't want if I only wanna go if like everyone wants to go


okay lah so so, so that was that lor so the whole the the whole trip was, a bit unpleasant in that that that sense and then I I I think


coming back from there I was like err, oh no so before we actually left ah cause I was cause I already express my, unhappiness with her of how she was always so slipshod, blah blah blah like not not doing anything then don't want to even like I ask her like a simple stuff also don't want to do


blah blah blah then then err then I think after that, I think it was late at night then then she came into my room she's like, anyway I think it's the last time we're gonna travel together, she said that before err like a few days before we left Singapore


no no no as in this happen when we were in Singapore, when when when we were still in Singapore, ya before the trip then she, she she she just, came to my room it's like


anyway I think this is the last last time we're going to travel together, then then oh ya then the damn funny one, I can't remember if I told you already or not like she in in Amsterdam she, she got break down leh , cause cause I I


no because I I ask her like what what she wants to do that, that kind of thing then she, as in because my my, what what I want her to do is that she can, as in since she has an opinion she should do something about it


and and not like, expect every err expect me to plan everything to her opinion which is, very difficult lah if you tell me straight up okay I want these things then err can you help me do it, then I will be like oh okay lah, so she has opinions but she doesn't she will, ya


ya correct, so then, then also I I also lament on things like like how she should try to learn the Google Maps, so that she knows how to find, like how to direct lah because she she leaves everything


to me like she said eh, this one how to go there, oh oh how to go this place how how to go that place, then, it's it's like it's a daily life skill lah how to use Google Maps you can use it anywhere what, even in Singapore if you getting to new places you can still use Google Maps what


so I I I told her, now is the chance for you to learn world maps, then, ya, ya I was like you should learn when you can like uh, I'm around then you should be pro proactive like say [orh], err I because, she likes to go free and easy also now now that she has been she she she don't like tour packages


no lah she only use it as a reference lah because, because, tour packages are more expensive and then you don't get to decide where exactly you want to go


I think my dad will prefer tour package lah because we, if we go free and easy we walk a lot eh whereas if we go tour package we just go on the bus sit, then you go reach the destination come down walk walk walk a bit, then go back the bus


he's has no strong opinions hor but then hor, as in he's fine with anything ah, so it's it's actually easy for me on my side yes but then hor, sometimes I can take out the subtle body language, like how how he's not really comfortable


cause like he he he walk too much cause he has back back issues, so he will like if he walk too much his will his back will pain he must sit then he sit for too long, err also cannot then he stand for too long worse, so like he he but he doesn't say anything lah but you can like kind of guess from the


his expression or like he if you are going because like me and my mum can will will shop mah, we will go shopping one mah, then then he doesn't go shop shopping one, so he will he will like err [orh] he will just wait wait at the side, then sometimes if you if you if you wait outside normally is okay lah then sometimes he will give like a


very Pek-Cek face or whatever then you will feel like !huh! like, I must find something for my dad to do also lah so, like for for example once we went to buy some skincare stuff, then the store is is very famous and very crowded, so we took


quite a while, before that uh I was err it it's going to take a while leh do you want to go to the like I told my dad do you want to go to the, nearby cafe to to sit, and and drink like, drink a coffee or or something and wait lah, then (ppb), ya then then he say err


!aiya! never mind lah then so he sat at the, outside the store there is a small ledge it's not even a proper seat, then he just he is super passive to the extend it it gets on the nerves, like when because last time he used to wake up very early cause he has the habit of waking up early


whereas for, for me, I wake up late lah then since it's a holiday I I also don't want to rush, plus


[orh] I don't want, that was I did lah, err sometimes he will wake up early, then he will, prepare prepare everything, then like he is ready to go out already then but we're still not ready then he just go back to sleep


then I was like, if if you're, like I I I said it a lot of times ah I was like if if you're done already, then if you wake up early if you are if you have nothing to do we can go outside walk walk around and explore the area, because like the area that we're staying in is, normally quite quite convenient that kind


not really touristy spot lah but you still can explore something lah like our, go down see the local culture see how the locals like maybe even just see how people are rushing to work, that kind of thing or get a get a get get something to eat, since you're hungry and then stuff like that but then but he don't want like he like he just say


!aiya! never mind lah, then he just, sleep in the, sleep back with his, going out clothes, then I was like, !wah! this this is this is damn passive passive to the extent that, like you're not even doing anything that it's like if you're scared of the dark you'll you'll you'll get lost


then just don't wander too far lah just just walk around hang, hang around in the area, so like uh I I I think is very lame lor then he just wait wait there, back back then we were buying stuff also like very, I I I also don't know what to say lah is like too passive lah then my mum is too


opinionated so she has, so so so she makes a good good, they make a good couple, in a sense my my mum will make the make the decision my my dad is very, err easy going


err sometimes she'll say lah but, but like things, like, if I ask her like the sometimes, sometimes maybe it's the lack of information ah for for example she didn't even research so she, don't know where she wanna go, so is is not that she don't wanna give her opinion she


didn't do enough work to to give her opinion, which is what I lament about also lah I was like since you know you're going then you should do some homework what, ya correct but then, then then after that she will have opinions also lor


lame one ah, so ya so which is why it's damn difficult to plan so I I was very Pek-Cek you know I was actually literally planning, the itinerary for each city during the transport there, for example I I I went from Brussels to Paris right


I was planning Paris itinerary on the bus on on the train from, Brussels to Paris that was how, last minute that that was, correct hor then


then like ya like then you travelling with parents so, if then then then my my my mum she goes on about how because, she she paid for the hotel she paid for the food she pay for the, the the most of the shopping, most of the shopping


her impression is that that, err rather than paying then for a tour package she's paying me to bring them around lah so treat it as a family trip lah, correct, correct lah


just just had the, just that just just that instead of people other people getting the benefits I get the benefit lah, which is good when I was studying but not good when I am working already and, and then honestly I was thinking !aiyo! this this amount of money I can


I can afford to pay and like have lesser, more fun, more fun less work to do, and and people who can help out like if I will travel with my friends like we will take take turn to, to to plan take turns to search for Google Maps on how to go there, that if you do !wah! everything ah you are really literally the tour guide leh which I am not leh is like is like


uh correct lah, in that sense so I was like !huh!, this is a bit too much leh so I was really not very happy, but then when she book now and then then then then she said this, ultimatum is like, err err no she she she said


this is the last trip already so can you err can you just bear with it, then then then I thought about it was like okay lah okay lah as in, as in but she she made it sound very negative like like I was blaming her for everything but like


I was right what like !aiya! my my arguments with my mom ah is is always very, very err, ya and then even when I, understand how where she's coming from I don't understand why she's still doing it


like Google Maps she said she want to learn so, eventually she she keep saying cause my my brother got married already mah, so she is like err oh so now you are the only person who can bring us err, on this free and easy tours which which is what I don't mind when I was still studying


then, so I I I guess we we all book the the trip, thinking that is going be like the previous time lah when I have more time to plan, no money then now in in hindsight I was like I would rather pay the money, of my own travel and then like to enjoy it better like I feel like I am wasting my leave like just


come here even though you paying for it, is no like super a lot anyway, as in that that's, ya so I was like this this is this is a bit like as in, anyway in, from a point of view she she she kept saying that she she said she paid for it then I can just


enjoy like I enjoy the free travel free free but anyway I paid for my, own tickets, it it's very soft


ya I, I guess she miss out on the point lah like different set of mind lah, so then then then err I was like err, as in I kind of agree with her actually in I I I had a impression that because she actually ask me


whether we want go to New Zealand in, in February with my brother because my my brother is planning to go to February, err with his wife, cause his wife is previous was previously living in New Zealand, so like like they were going back there and blah blah blah, so like my mum she she wants to go back and then she she ask me


before, ya before way before like like maybe slightly after, maybe one month plus after we book our Europe trip


then she ask then then I was thinking err, err maybe not lah , ya I I though of that, as in I, I don't want to because this this kind of trips are


err because this kind of places you have you have is a big country what so have many places to go, ya correct, precisely, ya, then like if I go what paragliding all this ah then she say !aiya! don't want lah


don't want lah you you go ahead lah then is gonna be not not cheap what this, this kind of things then I just go alone then is like you lack a company of friends blah blah blah, so I, like that, I already knew the difference of travelling with parents and and travelling with friends, it it then then I was like err


err since my brother is going then you just tag along with him lor, maybe I will just err skip, skip this out lah like as in I will just err maybe I will travel with my friends and uh as in cause I still want to travel with my friends and, and all that, then then then after that I when when he book the tickets I was eh like so how


are you gonna travel with with my my brother to New Zealand, then she's like err no ah I I, I think cause my brother is err his his character is different also, she said like oh err, I don't think he will really take care of


take care of us like in a sense he won't plan to their, to their, no it, even like previously like his character is someone who doesn't plan on, for for for other people as as much as I do lah like I will consider if you want to go or you don't want to go


then then then, this kind of thing lah so there are differences lah so I I I think she she she realized when she was traveling with him alone lah like they actually went on trip, themselves and then like they, he will plan to wake up at seven and leave at eight but then he didn't tell them


so like he will wake up at seven then he will prepare everything say eh we are leaving at eight, so like this kind of things lah that she was not happy about which I wouldn't be happy about also lah, ya something like that, so so like she she she's like there's like there's he's he doesn't plan as well I I guess or he plans well just that he doesn't


inform them of of what's next what to do and he doesn't pre pre-empt them lah, per say so like he he just know what's what's going on in in his head but, my my my mum and dad doesn't know what's going on so like she, she kind of didn't like that, err so that was what she said


one hour thirty, seven minute, I I talk too much, package lor or she go herself lor


no, sad, I I actually it's quite rare also I I was like, eh like like you see my, my brother's in law as in no my my sister in laws, so my brother's wife lah


like her parents can go travelling themselves one like they just go go themselves they don't have to, ya I was like like so if they can do it why, why, why can't you like you're you're you're giving excuses like oh I don't know technology I, I


I don't know how to go there cause I haven't been there then I I I'm bad at planning I'm bad at Google Maps, then my question is since you're here, you've the opportunity to learn Google Maps on like how to direct everything then how come you're not, learning it then I have to force her I was like okay


so now since you have Wi-Fi you're going to, direct right so you're going to uh you're going to err Google Maps on, where to go ah, then she's like err then, ya iPhone also


ya correct, that's, that's exactly my mum and dad my my my dad is worse, my mum still use apps like like, [orh] apps like she once she knows how to use an an app then she'll use the app


my father is really literally he just use the, phone to call, okay lah but now he knows how to WhatsApp lah because WhatsApp is just like sms mah, just that a different app but he but he doesn't know how to make use of the the rest like, photo like he don't know how to take a maybe a, a good photo blah blah blah


that kind of thing lah he's very layman ah he just use the basic functions lah, he's like !huh! how come you still want to get an iPhone then, but that that time he was working lah because now he's not he's not working anymore, previously he was working then he say is his own money mah so I cannot say anything I was I was like


err so I said like I I briefly just, say [orh] like you're not even fully using the I iPhone functions damn lame, that's what I told my mum leh, err I was like err


I was like since we're we're giving credits you can you can use the credits and go and improve your English ah because her English sucks what, as in her her her English is bad and then she keeps coming back to me, like what I don't like about my mum is once she that knows that I will can help her do something ah, ya she just keeps coming back to me like her her


her work err she has to write write, what is that, reviews ya emails and and err, what you call it appraisal appraisal, so like she has to write appraisal for her boss for her like one one colleague


that kind of thing then then then she will since like since, before that she she knows that I I I can write ah so she, she ask me to do the writing she's like eh eh eh, how to write this and then she, last time she like in in different


periods she'll come up with maybe she'll just come up with point forms she will want me to write everything, or she want to explain to me in Chinese and then I can write in English that kind of thing I was like, err okay so like a first few time I just help, then after that I I realise that she just came back she just comes back to me


every single year or every single quarter that kind of thing to to ask, this kind of things then I like, how come you're doing this so regularly !huh! you are you are not, you are not improving yourself ya as in, I am not going to help you write emails all the time what, if you're if you need help to, learn and then after that I should expect you to improve


then do it yourself in the future, so but she, she's not like, like that [loh] so my my character is also a bit impatient lah, like I uh, I will I will say eh the Google Maps I I already taught you before what so you should know how to go ah then you go [loh] as in then you use and and find lah then she's like


is been so long already I I I forgot about it, ya correct as in, for for us is super easy lah cause now, now we know how to use it but after I taught her then she still like


said oh I oh I forgot how to use it, then I said if you forget then you should refresh yourself every, now and then what, ya you should use it when you're said you are you you, even though you are travelling to places that you already know but you can use it to see, to see [orh] okay the the app works like that then learn lah is proactiveness lah


that you should learn you shouldn't just say oh I forgot already, err how ah how ah how ah how ah, so like a like like sometimes I will just be very , I will still teach her lah but a bit like, unwilling lah I was like you you you go and play the app yourself and then, then I was then I was stand or sit beside her and and and see


something like that, but but she will ask a lot of questions she will ask like eh like that how !huh!, then she as in, so she doesn't like to she she doesn't like to, she doesn't like to think


think before think and and explore before she ask a question, ya, so she always ask question and and and now then I just, when she ask me then I will say then I just look at her then I, keep quiet then I look away


ya I was like you you should know how to do it yourself since I already taught you so, you you figure out yourself, and then so she she makes a very bad habit like she just eh, eh how to do this !huh! how to do that !huh! how to write this !huh! how to write that !huh!, then so I just got very fed up lah I guess


no she doesn't, then she she she she just say like she wants to improve her English, so !huh! then then, I think there was a period when I, (ugh) err when I talk to her about


when I, said , err not said argue or or, or or what lah or or or I like I just pointed out very, very uh clearly I was like, you are not even do anything to improve your English and yet you you come here every single day with you appraisal ask me to do it