light items one KG some can be cheque or whatever yea so they can do this uh together concurrently with the Grab yea same lah like for example they pick, like their passenger like a few passengers in the same area maybe they see that they check the App oh this area also maybe I can pick up this parcel


about the same destination as here yea yea, so I think that one is uh you can check apps like uh what they call this uh what courier Q O U, Q O U R I E R, I E R yea so this particular company they have this uh what they they open to anybody lah can join them as freelance


so you can just uh log in register youself scan your uh ic then after which uh you can give them your bank details, then they will upload to your App to the App to everyone lah who has the App, what jobs are available on that day or the next day or whatever then you can see like the pickup point the location it can be industrial areas it can be just


uh residential areas can be anywhere in Singapore yea the the cheapest maybe like four dollars per trip the most expensive can be like twenty thirty plus per trip, the amount that you get depends on your the the the thin you're delivering maybe like documents cheaper


yea then like heavier parcels like one or five kg or above ten kg will be more expensive then also the timeframe they say this particular thing, the the the person who requested it oh you have to rush in a three hours time you have to delivery from this point A to point B in three hours


so the price can be more lah maybe twenty plus thirty plus for just just for the trip maybe it's not a parcel maybe it's just a cheque yea, yea, yea, yea and the best thing this uh this uh freelance delivery don't have to have your own vehicle you can use a pmd or you can just use public transport


up to you I have some friends they buy the concession I think hundred twenty per month yea they use public transport they do as many deliveries as they can even night also have, yea you just check yea you just cheek the App yea yea, yea you can just check the the App Store yea yea


ya, but of course this company will mention that it's best to have a motorbike or your own car or your own van, then it's better lah because you have your own vehicle right you don't you not bound by public transport because some places is industrial area, ya


yes ya but industrial area sometimes uh fetch a higher price, ya because the accessibility ya, yes ah, ya, but again it's open to anybody as long as you're eighteen years old and above and with a bank account


ya that's it ya, it it you don't have to I mean the pick up is based on that that particular job that you that you take then you you can just, uh there's no hq like for example when you take this job then you see okay the pick up point is from this location then the uh delivery is to this location it's not at hq you don't have to pick up


there's there's there's no common place to pick up, (ppc), no, no it can be pick up anywhere in Singapore deliver anywhere in Singapore depend on the job, so before when before you accept the job make sure you see the details lah the date and time then the pick up location and the delivery location that's the most important where


then whether you it your your what's your uh transportation you are by taking public transport, or you are taking your own vehicle motorbike or car that you see or if this is a industrial area then it this industrial area if let's say you are on foot, this industrial area any uh bus stop


any mrt, if no why you take this job don't take, then you browse other jobs, ya because this is not uh so called compulsory lah you have to take this one no it's up to you, you choose yes, then you take yes


ah, yes there's a map view then you open your gps then you see oh at your current location then I think it's a I think one kilometre or two kilometre radius, what are the pick up locations then you browse one by one what are the their delivery their destination yes then you see if you are going there why not take this


yes then you see then the next thing you see what is the time let's say okay you can take this anywhere like from nine to six then deliver also any anytime nine to six, let's say if there's like a three hour rush those like rush jobs will cost more, but make sure you are able to rush lah ah don't take lah cos you you get complain from the whoever the uh receiver ya


just register on the App download the App and uh the uh App uh Apple Store or either Google App Store, then you register uh with your email lah then they will call you make sure you have your IC then they will uh ask you to scan uh front and back your IC


then don't need to email you just uh through the App you can upload your IC front and back to the App send them then once uh, I mean confirm they will ask for your bank account details lah like what whatever bank give the bank account number, ya


, okay there's this uh for this particular one because there's a lot of this freelance delivery, I'm only using this school here, they have this uh so called weekly bonus


let's say every week, you if you hit a minimum of forty they will give you a fifty dollar voucher uh fifty dollar bonus, on top of how much you earn, forty trips, forty trips for that week, Monday to Sunday, yeah


six lah, let's say you, you spread, uh throughout the seven days, you six six six six six everyday Monday to Sunday then forty two you hit the forty you get fifty dollar bonus, then the bonus is there's a tier, so forty then the next tier is eighty then next tier is hundred and twenty, so there's more bonus lah hundred think to hundred plus something like that


yeah, yes, I so far hit the forty lah because I take public transport, (uh huh) yeah, uh depends like some of the day like this today, some of the places you know like, spread all over there's no like uh


one place with a lot of pick up and one place with a lot of uh destination don't have, so sometimes there is, sometimes there is like for example okay, yeah, yes yes yes


like for example okay like for example okay I open the App today oh I see oh there's, five, at this city med building, but the destination is different different place, five uh city med building then all are cheque, or maybe uh some light documents I can just slot in my bag


documents they aer is not parcel so I can take all five one shot together in the morning, then the destination maybe different place lah maybe one uh go to Hougang, one got to Buangkok then another one go to Woodlands, the other one maybe go to Outram the other one maybe go to Buona-Vista something like that


then these areas are all mostly Circle Line, so I can just Circle Line, yeah, but it doesn't always happen you have to check the App, you know you have to strategy ah strategise yourself, ah, yes, yes yes


ya which because I take, train everyday to work, no problem lah ya, ya you familiarise already you know mrt routes where bus, if you mrt and bus route everywhere ya, so I buy concession hundred twenty, so make sure I make, it worth it lah


yes, yeah, yes mrt and bus, ya so this is the strategy lah, (uh huh), yeah, yes one trip uh


, yeah, ah, yeah, yeah, so if you want to go, uh by public transport it's best to get concession


otherwise you know you don't have concession I don't think it's worth it lah, ya so if you have concession ya, ya, correct, yes, (ppc), there's no erp ah


but of course if you take your own vehicle you can take those more expensive jobs because those like PA parcels, they fetch a higher price, ah, yes the weight of the thing that you're delivering your your your consignment yes


documents really cheaper maybe four dollars seven dollars, ah, but those like parcels like one to five dollars maybe twelve dollars, can be fourteen dollars those heavier ones maybe, can be up to twenty dollars, uh moving house like sofa I never see before lah ya there's one company like uh I saw like oh they want to deliver you know one


like a few uh dozens no a few dozen boxes of uh a few dozen boxes of shoes, there's this company like I think shoe manufacturer I'm not so sure, somewhere in the nearby here lah in Aljunied so this company like okay uh they they put they advertise in this courier one one shoe box four dollars


let's say you can take like ten or twenty that's like how many forty twenty eighty dollars but is to different destinations lah, ya but you already hit like half of the forty forty trip per week quota, so ya all from the same pick up location but this one in this case is different destinations lah island wide lah different


locations in Singapore but for that one because it's shoe box I mean it's a parcel not if you're taking public transport not possible for you to do, ya this one need a van or at least a car ya, ya so something like that lah usually I do is like documents you know like for example oh this particular location I take this document can just put in my bag


I see whether this area there's anymore documents or not, maybe this one seven dollars another one seven dollars seven dollars ya, (ppc) yeah yeah, so usually I do this when I'm clearing my leave lah my last year leave ya yeah ya


ya, ya there's a lot of freelance job, ya, (uh huh), yes uh, ah


ya it's like tuition same like tuition , yes , yes, yes correct


yes and you must understand the syllabus the curriculum, ya harder ya, yeah, yeah, yeah


ya ya, FoodPanda even can earn even more than this uh this uh courier ya, ya don't want ya yes, ya


yes, ya and that's good money maybe you can make at least one hundred a day, there's a lot of trips lah in that area ya, ya, , yes


ah still cook lah ah, but from but from what uh I heard from my friends who are doing the FoodPanda the Deliveroo and all this right


they say most of them they deliver is to uh commercial area office areas because office areas, sometime they are lazy to go out during lunch time to buy food just stay in the office call, you can deliver, so ya, yes, ya ya so they say the most popular area to like deliver to do this food delivery is like cbd area


uh that's where you know like those Tanjong-Pagar area !wah!, ya, ah, (uh huh), ah, ya, ah, ah


(uh huh), lunchtime ah, , ya, (uh huh)


ah, , yes, correct ah, ya, yes, ah, yes, yes


ya, other than uh One-North you can also go to Biopolis there's a, Biopolis there's this building the Matrix there's also a eatery there


ya I I mean this two are the nearest lah ya, ah , ya ya ya same same, yes yes yes, correct, ya


ya lah ah ya, ya, ya, ya it's a normal hawker center ya, yes at least ya


hawker center three dollars, yes, yes, yes, three dollars settle everything, yeah, , yes


it's like three days worth of food ya (uh huh), ya, yes, there's, yeah


yeah, ya same lah everyone is like that like for me sometimes because now I have my full time job but as at at same time I'm, you know seeing other opportunities for freelance whatever lah can be like this one my first time doing this voice


like uh I'm also doing this uh delivery uh freelance delivery I am also seeing what other freelance out there, ya, uh, so far I've done delivery this voice is the first for me another one I'm doing this survey like for example ya you take part in survey


uh focus group sometimes you know they publish in Facebook think there's a lot in Facebook lah, ya you join those like uh what part time job group or freelance job group they say oh we have this focus group they want this age group, uh either you are single or married ya


it's just a, ya, it's like a it's like a survey so uh it's not like ask two of us just sit down there's a few people there quite a number of people, so they will there's a topic to to talk about


ya then they will ask you you know are you uh hit are you within this demographics that means that this age group this race, this religion uh you have a family what your family size how much you earn uh if but if how much you earn you not comfortable in sharing is okay lah, it's more like your educational educational background ya uh then this kind of things lah


then they ask like okay for this particular topic you know uh like for example oh uh we want to talk about marriage and parenting, so you have kids so how many kids do you have how old are your kids between what age group, so your kids are oh within uh this uh within this age group do you send them to like a you know those uh childcare center if yes


what kind of childcare center are you comfortable with paying this amount every month for childcare do you know that government has subsidy for this, uh childcare and uh let's say if government is to roll out a better subsidy for childcare uh is it okay what are your comments ah this kind of things lah


ya, so far so far those that I attend is uh there's a paper you can just write you can also talk lah there's also a discussion so it's like a, verbal and also a paper form


ya, so far lah I those those so far that I've attend not just uh talking lah there's also like a some questionnaire for you to do, (uh huh), ya ya it's not stress like exam lah this one is just answer ah ya so like A A B C D E F ya ya you can just shade tick yeah something like that ya


usually like can be like at least thirty dollars, ah yeah, usually it's about two hours usually, around there lah


yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the most I got is sixty dollars, for just one hour ya, uh it's a also this survey a focused group as you say it's about, , it's about work lah like for example they want to know like uh I work in engineering right


ya so your your work you know what kind of challenges you face, uh of course they won't delve into like those confidential areas lah like, this companies with it I also cannot disclose, so they ask okay you know uh how do you, find the diversity in Singapore you know you work in this kind of engineering industry


confirm there will be like other nationality like uh China national, Indian national Bangladeshi, those uh American British whatever, there's, no multi multi racial companies yes yes yes I say yes, my boss is not Singaporean, those under me also most of them are not Singaporean


yeah, so uh is there uh any uh concerns for me no concern, initially yes there's a language barrier, because some of them they are not so good in English, and uh I do not know, what are the languages they speak, like for example okay those uh my operators some of them are most of them are China


yeah, okay, (uh huh), okay, that's good congratulations,


smu okay, okay, (uh huh), okay


okay, oh I see I see, okay


but uh this smu this uh business and uh the other one is what just now, uh business and law they're quite highly paid right, yeah, yeah, yeah, smu ya


yeah, yeah yeah yeah,


okay, oh overseas or here, yeah


(uh huh), ya ya, yes yes


I see I see, ya this is better right ah, yes ah, yeah


, , , yes yes yes yes, yes yes yes, yes,


yeah, different , ah, yes, it may change yes, yes correct that


yes yes yes,


the system , ah, yes yes yes yes yes, multitask


correct, yes, , yes yes yes, yes, yes,


yes, yes, yes, ah


ya , yes, ya, yeah, yes, yeah


, yes correct yes yes, you are right


okay okay, oh, (uh huh), substitute ya, I see I see


ya like for me because my work my my my uh full time job ya because towards the end we have to plan our manufacturing activities for the next year, because I'm a uh process engineer for a manufacturing company lah so usually this eh uh time of the year usually our company practice is that (ppc) our employees


the company bosses will say okay you try to clear your leave not really towards the very end, because you have to plan some activities for the next year ya no you have to you know nowadays you have to get ahead of your competitors you know, ya then uh any price revision necessary to increase the premium when you sell the same price maybe become more expensive because of inflation and all this lah


that one is all part of the marketing and sales like for us the production and process part oh we have to see oh any new products if any new products uh you know, are being planned to be uh manufactured ya what are the necessary uh changes in the production line, uh any new recipes need to come out something like that we have to discuss all this


(ppc), ya, ya, what is E R M, ah I see I see okay in our company we use this software called sap which is a erp uh enterprise resource


uh and planning uh software lah so this sap software is like our system, so it manages our logistics, manages our uh uh payroll finance our uh money lah in and out, so our logistics such as our uh resources lah raw material coming in finished goods going out our inventory


ya, ah, ah, ah, okay, (mmhmm), (mmhmm)


, (mmhmm), understand, okay, okay, (ppc)


ah, that's not bad uh that's very bad ya, ya, correct, this !aiya!, this what they call uh what can say uh it can lead to a disaster what we say uh money parked in the company not being utilized


so this kind of thing uh, because different companies I think uh uh more or less they have this concept of just in time, so we work with our manufacturer and supplier of the raw material lah so let's say uh we have a confirm concrete plan, our manufacturing uh timeline okay this this from this to this from here to there uh we are supposed to manufacture this amount this amount


we consume this amount this amount so the supplier have to supply us this amount this amount, but then again the challenges is that our inventory level we have a physical limit, we can only store this amount of raw material and finished goods in our physical location our company this amount ya our own in house


we have a down line the our forwarder, we our forwarder has their own storage ah but we don't consider that cause that's our forwarder's uh problem we only consider our box, so we have our inventory level uh raw material and the finished goods lah


so we have to see what is the maximum limit that we can store like for my company we deal with chemicals, so chemicals this nea government lah nea police and scdf they have permits for different type of chemicals, cannot store this much cannot exceed this much because hazard lah dangers lah so


we tell our supplier okay so we forecast we need to for the next three months we need this, level of consumption for this this material this material this material these different types of materials so we plan this out then we, yeah use this offer lah sap lah sap I think is a Switzerland or German company I can't remember


so it's a erp software lah the enterprise resource and planning, ya so I think a lot of companies use this ah it's quite common I think government also use this ya so ya so one of the use is this logistics lah, so inside there there's a few data like that for example what type of


uh this particular material the name the type uh where it can be stored in our facility which supplier and this supplier what is the lead time lead time is important, let's say this particular raw material, come from don't know what Alaska or California and then to Singapore


let's say if this particular can uh can uh material can be ship by flight okay what is the lead time, four to six weeks if by sea longer maybe three times longer twelve to sixteen weeks, because ship is slower, by the sea


so uh not all chemicals can be shipped by air because they are considered DG dangerous goods, so cannot fly on the air because dangerous so must take the ship, so if take the ship take a longer time right so your forecast must be so called there's no such thing as hundred percent perfect lah


ya so must be so called as accurately as possible uh with respect to the accountability of what you are going to produce, ya because as you mentioned just now !wah! a lot raw material park in the company that's dangerous it's money sitting there raw materials


they have their own shelf life, uh our company practice is that let's say if this particular material this particular raw material the supplier or the manufacturer does not commit any shelf life, that means there's no use by date our company policy is that upon receiving one year


so we have to finish utilising that particular batch of raw material because when raw material come in there's a batch number mah so all these is in your erp software, ya in the system uh so so this particular batch of this particular raw material when come in one year


if you cannot finish by one year that's the problem, throwing away money, ya because we commit to our customers we are not supposed to use any so called, ~pired materials to produce our goods, because we have this uh so called


uh ethics lah there's a word for it lah I can't remember our company policy but uh what I learnt is that uh this is what we call the engineering code of conducts lah ethics lah engineering ethics, we are whatever we commit to the our customer whatever we produce we are supposed to as it is not supposed to deviate


ya because any engineering standard right I any deviation right let's say you produce a laptop let's say for example or a laptop battery, if you don't confine comply to any kind of standard maybe the battery explode or whatever ya, (ppc) ya (ppc) ya so maybe they have some deviation lah along their manufacturing process


uh so for us uh we have to you know be committed to whatever we have committed to the customer this commitment ya, (ppc) ya so it's not only about the commitment but also about our uh corporate ethics lah our ethos, so ah


(ppc), ah I don't want to say lah, ya, (ppc) uh it's , it's not really that uh ya not I won't say not it's not about famous, it's just that uh our company not the unique company lah we also have some competitors lah


(ppc) uh so uh another thing about companies is that if you want to protect our so called trade secret right, like for example the most famous like Coca-Cola I think now nobody knows what's the actual recipe ya ya I mean you can know the exact ingredients but what's the plan


what's the concentration what's the mix you don't know, ah you don't know so ya, (ppc), ah ah, different, ah , (uh huh) you cannot get hundred percent they have there is some ya so like like likewise when our suppliers our manufacturers our our raw material


when they sell out the raw material we have this what we call , uh certificate of uh this uh uh uh what , certificate of this to certify that this particular raw material this particular batch conform to the


to the to the to the to the to the to need the needs that we want lah that this particular raw material meet the needs that we want, to use for our process our production so like for example it contains this this this how many percent this this how many percent this this how many percent so in this certificate


so this particular whatever paperwork in a company is legal binding lah ya it's as it is lah this one is uh part of the iso nine thousand one, the requirement lah ya so why all this standards come is not only for you know not just for show it's there's a legal uh aspect to it


ya, so in every company I think there's a legal team lah like my company also there's a legal team consist of lawyers so they take care of all these legal stuff lah, ah, ya so but but of course we work together as a team because no one department can handle all the different aspects


ya so there's a cross department work lah always like that ya so like for example this year end, all the suppliers and manufacturers will come to us for meeting not only for because they have stock take but of course they will say oh, oh we have this uh so called price review lah ah for this material that we want to sell you


(uh huh) because of this this this this ah so then I have to rope in my you know my sourcing of my supply chain people lah my buyers and my purchasers lah, come in so negotiate the price you know, because of course the supplier and manufacturer our raw material they want to sell as expensive as possible but we cannot mah


ya it's our dollars and cents so so that's where our purchasers our buyers come in have to negotiate the price lah ya of course I will come to just , so called organise the meeting lah, ya ya because I'm the process team because we are like so called the middle lah the heart of the the company


ya, ya, ya so, discuss about this the financial aspect, uh so let's say okay for this particular material oh we will maybe want to revise the price a bit extra three or five percent more that's a lot already, ya let's say we buy this particular raw material a few times per month


how much already the cost, uh let's say one tonne is like, fifteen grand, uh if you, three to five percent how much is that you can do the maths lah so ya so all these adds to our our operating costs lah, ya then of course the boss say you know you know have to work within the budget lah


if you are able to you know what we call capex lah for engineers the this capital expenditure projects lah if you are able to manage your budget that means more bonus for you, you do you want to have more bonus yes of course we want ya so ya so ya it's a


give and take lah so all your your performance also affect the company performance, ya so and vice versa lah your company performance also affect you lah, ya company perform well because of you you will get more out of the company so, ya


, (ppc) yeah, ya, yeah, ya but


it can't think of like a fixed way because everyday is changing you know so the world is changing you have also have to adapt and evolve, cannot keep constant yea, yea


maybe , yeah, yeah, correct, yea yea, , (uh huh)


ya, yeah lah yeah, yeah


yeah, ya, correct, ya, ya I say lose lose situation ah it must there must be a win win situation ah, (ppc) ya


ya, (uh huh), ya, , ya ya ya ya correct


yes, (mmhmm) !wah!, , !wah!, okay


ah okay okay, yeah


ah, ya a lot ah quite a lot significant, yeah, if there's such a project next time ah, contact me ,


yes yes yes yes yes no problem ya, yes yes yes ah, yes, yeah


!wah!, yeah, (uh huh), ah, ah, (uh huh), ya ya


correct, yes yes, yes, , (ppb), , then don't lor


ah ah, (uh huh), (uh huh), , ah


ya, ya, ya, ah, like for example for me I have concession, so I make sure I, use the train and the the bus as much as possible


ah, ya, it's a waste, buy the concession


correct, yes, and and some companies do not have transport like for example the company I am working with, there's no transport you go by yourself but the previous company I working with there is transport, yes so, yes yes (uh huh)


yes, ya, ya, , ya, ya, (uh huh)


yes, ya, ah, correct, yeah, ya ya


but everywhere in the country there's foreigners what, ya, ya, ya, ah, ah ah ah


(uh huh) (uh huh) (uh huh), yes, yeah, ah, ah, ah


so the family shop just, finish like that lah , it's a waste, it's a waste, !wah!,


ya, ya because the tradition actually is what keep the quality once you break the tradition


ya, , ah , ah, ya


correct, ya, ah, ah, Chong-Pang ya Chong-Pang


wasted,


ya, ya


same like companies like for example my previous company there's they do a lot of mass retrenchment lah, uh is a semiconductor company lah I don't want to say lah so this particular company , whenever you know , times are bad for them they will not hesitate to lay off their employees


this is the problem, so I think is not just that company lah many companies in the world are also like that lah whenever they are experiencing some financial difficulties they will start to chop ya, ya that's how I ended up in this company because I was retrenched with my previous company


ya, ya, ya, ah, ya, yeah


financial ah financial crisis ah, yes, , yes, yes


ya, (uh huh), there was also another company that I work with for a very short while, uh this company did not cut salary that time they were also experiencing some financial difficulties because there's a lot of competitors


then they cannot win the business of their customers they lose some significant business to their competitors, so they did not retrench thankfully but the problem is uh they didn't cut salary lah they did cut bonus then there's no increment, ya


then uh even worse uh some people are told to you know how to say uh you work for this month your salary will be paid a bit late, delay the salary they didn't cut lah so at least not so bad lah but there's no increment


for that year then the next year there's no increment usually there's increment lah when you go to the year ya so there's no increment there's no bonus, then uh the make to make situation worse they didn't even pay aws the thirteenth month, ya so ya but some people of course still choose to stay on lah


ya because , ya better than no job ya, ya ya but uh I did manage to get another job lah ah so but the the that the next company that I went uh went to


less than one year they start to have this retrenchment exercise ah but lucky I heard the rumors earlier lah yeah, so I faster faster got a job then I, left lah just when they're about to retrench me lah with so many other people ya so ya


so ya this this kind of corporate dynamics, I think it's not, not unique to any company lah I think most company are doing that lah whenever they are experiencing some financial difficulties they would not be hesitant to throw away people, ah


correct ah, ya, yeah, correct, ah yeah, Jack-#Ma# lah


no idea, uh okay ah, oh


then the company still keep, oh okay, okay, oh


ya lah the old bird lah the old bird ah, kill the rabbit oh okay okay, , nah they not contributing to the business ah


ah


ah okay okay okay,


ya, not fit ah, ah, okay okay okay, (uh huh)


, ah, oh, okay, so have, change it to other ya


maybe okay maybe you also know this uh what they call it what the personality profiling ah, some, some companies that I joined, DIC is the old one think the other one is the like for example they can classify you what infj or something like that


there's a name for that ah uh don't know what personality lah type it's a personality typing, so like for example uh you are what there's four lah every person there's four you can you can become a I or E then after that it's a N or, T or something like that then the F or ya so your combination is always four letters like infj or infp


I think you should have studied this lah it's part of the management thing so usually every not every lah I think most companies some companies their hr will do this, upon uh how to say upon hiring this staff but before they start to work


so when they confirm hire this staff but before they want, this staff to start working they want to see what is the personality type then post them to the so called the best fit, type of work, ah I was also subjected this ya


ya, ya, ya, yes correct, ya ya, yes correct they see oh whether you are what uh perception type of person or judgmental type of person


whether you are introvert you are extrovert ah whether you what ya so uh I I can't remember ah what what , it's a type type personality typing or something like that or I don't know there's a name for it lah ya I think you have studied this lah


yeah, DISC also have is the older one, there's also another one I not sure whether it's older or newer it's a always classify you as four letters, either infp infj or something enf


P or something like that it's always four letters, that means the first one is an introvert or extrovert then the second one is don't know what the third I also can't remember then the last one is a judgmental or perception something, ya then whether see you are a a one thinking of based on feelings or based on logic


or the other one whether you are creative or are you a a a like a so called rigid person the other one are you very vocal or are you very timid shy, uh can you work in groups ah you you like to do things on your own or something like that are you a leader are you a follower something like that ya there's so many many many many types ya


I was also subjected to this ya ya, ah, ya


, yes yes yes yes yes, yes, ya, ya


, (uh huh), ah, ah ah, , yeah, yeah


correct correct, yeah, , ah , ya ya ya


ah , ah, because you mature you think back ah your your actions sure got some kind of consequence ah, yeah


ah, that's what I do, , ya yes, at, ya


you know, because why I not only set my clock fifty minutes I set half an hour, because why nowadays train always break down, bus can be subjected to jam, then don't know maybe sometime your family members any emergency at home


so all this you have to, factor in lah ah, ah, (uh huh)


yes correct death certificate death certificate ah ah, , correct, , nothing ah


ya , , correct, yeah, , ya


ya, yeah, , ah ah correct, yes yes


yeah, , , , ya, ah it's difficult to sustain a


ah,


ya, ya correct, yes, everything in this life one way


ya, correct, external factor, (ppb), correct, yes, yeah


ah, ah ah, ya, ya


oh okay okay okay, oh okay okay, ah ya correct correct correct ya


okay, ya, ya ya ya ya, (ppb), I'm just a decent person


ya ya lah ya, ya but this world is you know there's always , variations lah not everyone is the same nothing is the same, yeah yeah


yeah, ya ya, then today you have receive some good news, oh your Master's program ah


, if more positive ah , yes yes, yeah


uh your Master's program, ya , [orh] the plus minus ah ya, ya hope we meet again next time


yes ya ya, yes, ya, because uh if January a bit difficult because there's when we start to get busy (ppb), ya


ah Saturday is okay ya ya, , yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, ah


I see I see, !wah!, !woah! , so that means you and another eight of the your your your team can do


oh okay okay, three person, oh okay okay, okay


oh okay ya editors ya, oh okay okay okay, ah, ah okay, so weekends is uh available for


ah, ah okay okay, okay, so ya ah


okay, okay now it's lower, why, (mmhmm), , , okay


weird, for me this is the best freelance job because it's just chit-chat, , ah


ah, okay if it's a scam the person on the end will like, yes usually that's a scam ya it's like ah don't understand, ya


, ya ya, not logical ah , ya


(uh huh), ah, okay, ah, ah okay okay, okay


, yes, yes correct, yes, ya


ya, platform ya, okay, ya, ya


what's the script about, usually


story book, ya lah it's like a story book lah kind of, stalking oh, ya, ya, ya then you just read


so this is the first part lah, oh


, why reject, oh, okay okay okay okay okay


correct, then the system will misunderstand yeah, the system ah, ah , , okay okay understand


but the thing is that okay different people different race have different accent, ah, okay,


aluminium ya ya ya ya, , , ya, yes, ya


I think some maybe some people when they study study blindly ah they not understand what they're studying then, yeah, ah,


so they want to see what is the improvement that is coming up in the country ah , , ya, yes


, , , for me today weekday is just nice because I want to clear my last day leave so just nice


it's a good timing, ah, just nice


, okay, but for me if next time uh the subsequent parts of the project uh weekend I can come in the morning no problem, ya


ah also can, ah can can can , , okay, if your studio is somewhere in the west because my uh company is in Tuas so I is a shorter distance


ya, west is the best place for me


oh, okay okay Buona-Vista, ah yes west


cause if ya if for me it's in the west area timing is no issue, after work is very near, ya, , okay


oh, , phone oh, oh that means they still come to a come to a physical location oh


they would provide the phone oh okay, ah okay, oh the, oh the to a system then the system records that phone conversation ah ah


, oh okay okay okay, okay okay, cannot use the speaker phone, I see I see I see, capture as good as possible okay


ya ya ya ya, ya, oh, okay okay okay complain is just one type lah it's like


that one variety of conversation lah okay okay, okay


very good, yes, ah I heard of it national speech oh national speech


oh I see I see I see I see, voice oh, oh I see I see I see


oh like the Microsoft has this uh Microsoft what the speech ah, ah ya, correct correct ya, now smart tv also our remote there's a microphone you press then you speak uh channel five then will show channel five ya


ya, ya you manage uh uh, sport, (uh huh), ya ya


ah, oh, there there there's still a human driver lah


oh, , so your S I M card is like your car key lah so called


of of what kind of photo


okay it's still on going, , ya, correct correct correct ya ya, okay okay keep me updated


because while taking photos I can do my deliveries, , ya, (ppc), ya, correct, data mining lah I call it okay


okay, very interesting, ya ya glad to have me, glad for you to have me here ya,


, okay, all the best one year right, I thought twelve months, eighteen months, oh the other six months is the intern internship, okay okay


but what kind of company would you like to join for your internship, okay


(ppc), , management okay, because my company I think they do accept student interns, maybe next time when during your internship period I can ask my boss whether there's a any internship


opportunities ya I think most companies have lah ya then maybe you can see what is a manufacturing company is about, ah, ah, ya, ya ya, yes wish to


go for this kind of (uh) very interesting (uh) you know side line jobs


okay, I just press play okay, so at the bottom right there's a sign ya it says Paul-McCartney yours is what Paul-Simon okay


and then above that sign there's there's a lady sitting in the tent she's wearing blue, and she has uh, I think she has two boxes what do you have


what sign, oh okay I I don't have that sign so I think that's one more, then near the on the bottom left, it says recycling bin


I mean recycling just recycling with the sign, oh yours says recycling and waste and mine has two, uh my the both both of my my, the bins here says recycling


okay, then there's a lady beside the recycling bin she's wearing, she's wearing uh, what's that a pink shirt and a blue skirt


she's wearing what what's yours wearing, is she okay as in that's all, think the middle beside her there's a guy selling peaches he's wearing a hat and, a white shirt with sandals


so is yours the same, okay I think that's one, and , the guy beside him he's there's a there's a there's a boy sitting down


uh with his shoes off oh it's sandals off I think, he's wearing a cap a blue shirt and, and this one ya pants, oh yours is one sock mine is both socks so


okay and then, there's a guy at the top right uh top left sorry top right he's playing golf, but uh mine the his motion is a swinging motion


okay, and then , there's a lady beside him, in the middle she's the beach queen, she's wearing a red bikini and sandals


she has a sash on the beach queen, then there's a shack fishing shack open, okay so that's one more


and then there's, there's a guy beside uh her there's a guy beside the lady that was wearing the beach queen, uh he's dressed in in I think is trousers or shorts


sandals and radio beside him, he's looking at the floor is that correct, then next to him is a North Shore sign, there's no North Shore so that's one more difference and then


there's a fishing net, fishing net a pail with fish and I think ice, only some fishes, uh and then, uh there's three stones or seashells or seashells actually


okay I have three, and then the last one is a, a mat or is it a, what is this oh okay I think is a stand it has uh three seahorses


oh mine doesn't have a fish, okay , so, Steph what do you like to do in your free time


eat what do you love to eat, eh that's my favourite food eh


the Prata under my block is damn nice have you tried do you know where is it, so ya, then uh what what


I I think that the curry is very nice there but what's what's your favourite curry, why don't you like chicken, chicken is my favourite


you only like mutton, Eighteen-Chefs is it, can ya I don't mind, Briyani, really I also feel like eating Briyani


I feel like eating uh wait mutton Briyani from the <NEN> shop


Little India market, Tekka Market ya that's the best, I don't know maybe you take a bus, or you can take a train oh the nearest mrt from here I think is Circle Line


ya, three stops right, Bartley there's only two stops, right, then we take we have to take purple line


what else, what else you want to eat, at the market or at the, okay


ya we need to go and sew our costumes, ya alteration and, what else, I don't my my costume doesn't have the what's that the border in the middle


it's said we have to be there at, I think, five five pm, but she ya but if some people cannot make it I think is, no she said five pm


no she really said five pm, ya, I don't know she said five pm so we have to be there at five pm


the costumes and we need to alter, ya, then I told , one of the #ah neh#s that , if they cannot come at five pm so I said come at around six


I think <unk> ya he's working so I told him to come at around six, then we can just, I think after oh no after that they have to go back to church, the children's Christmas party


so, uh ya they have to go back to church, mummy is going church she needs to go church for tomorrow also ya okay, I don't know so after alteration they will go back to church and then


ya we just go lah I think you can just go and help out see I don't know, or you can go back home doesn't matter


ya, what drama, Meteor Garden, you mean the meteor right fell there, one season seven episodes or what each season is uh I mean each episode how long


is okay lah that's like, but seven episodes for one season is like too short right, forty plus for one season


that's damn long, oh okay got subtitles ah, oh what do you even understand


then what's the other drama that you watch every single day in the laptop, what laptop is that !chey! what laptop what uh what drama is that


#Lee Yang# who's that, he's he's a China actor is he from China or is he from Korea, okay he's from China, to be a bully or to be bullied


okay and then, that he bullies, okay, okay, singer in their life lah


okay


so they fell in love, #Lee Yang#, [orh] okay okay okay okay


uh she she be like a poor I mean like not well to do and what's that like, not pretty and stuff lah okay then


pretending, then, oh you mean she has two names ah <unk> is the, what is the original self and then <unk> is the


the the name the name that she used to be like a fake person lah okay


okay, okay then


separate like to to uh spoil their relationship


so she will do self harm lah, okay, just a what again, what tube oh she oh she so she's in the hospital and then she will like take out her tube to like make herself die, okay


fans, oh because she's a singer right okay


okay like do singing collaborations ah then


(uh huh) what all the his love story lah, [orh] okay who he wrote the song for


using that song that he wrote for her lah and then he will he will like, is a classic movie, I mean like this the what's that the typical, uh dramas, like you you know how you will predict that, like this gonna happen


and stuff eh got you know that that drama we we watch on Vasantham, I don't think you watched it I watched it the cartoon cartoon <NEN> , you watched I thought you don't even watch it, which part is it at now ah


that's yesterday episode right, ya but the I think her friend you know K so their both like, what's that, the one is Lavinia one is Tara right then Tara he's she's acting as Lavinia right so I think Tara is falling in love with #Sathya Prakash#


ya I know because you look at the at the what's that the advertisement then fall it I think she's falling in love with him, then like and and and also the, the Lavinia is like


I don't know I I feel that her role is like a bit stupid like, no no as in I feel like they should have given her a better role like they shouldn't have made her like the stupid you know the


the kind that cannot do anything or maybe she or maybe, uh she has a good role but like, what's that called like she doesn't play it well


ya I think two weeks right two weeks, I miss a lot of episodes in between, then ya lah I need to go and catch up on Toggle


two and a half years, five hundred episodes right, it's like damm long, long drama but is a damm nice drama, what drama


the lot a lot in the list or in the list you mean, what kind what what what kind of drama maybe I can watch also, oh I want to watch


what drama is that, who's #Kim Tae Hyung#, #Kim Tae Hyung# who's that, okay okay okay oh Taehyung


okay we ya I know, you know this like they like to watch, Korean dramas right


she always watch you know like every time, ya, I know dolly eh I think dolly's coming back this Saturday, I think so, today


then, you see when we can watch, how much is the ticket did you check or not, six uh six fifty then I don't mind watching with you


eh you know got a lot of movies coming out now wait wait wait wait the, okay Grinch, then I want the there's one Grinch then there's the you know Creed, Creed one Creed two Creed Creed okay Michael-B-Jordan the Killmonger in Black Panther


no Michael-B-Jordan is acting in this show ah called Creed-two, okay it was a it's like a sequel of, Creed one, he's a he's a boxer I think in that movie


the first one the first one ya so the second one is ah coming it came out already, then there's one more I want to watch I haven't watch a lot of movie, uh <unk> two coming out I think next year only, eh this year end of this year right


eh you know uh what is that two point O came out today, two point O, today haven't come out how to watch I think to maybe Friday or Saturday can find the movie already


hd that one must wait at least about one week, but other channel hd !aiya! waiting one other channel come out one month ago right I waiting for other channel hd from like I think, so long eh I haven't, ya


or maybe maybe they restrict, from, like uh producing hd copy, you mean restrict from producing hd copy ya, no lah not because of that like they can always censor what


two point O I mean uh two point O a bit stupid but I don't want to watch in theater cause I don't want to waste my money so I go watch like online


then uh, Creed-two what's the other one wait there's another movie coming out I forgot I forgot shit uh, uh no it's not <NEN> it's it's not Tamil movie it's uh


it's not it's what is that, no I forgot, or already out, like there's a lot of movies that are out that we haven't watch yet you know


what still, yeah I am got holiday still Christmas dinner, on the week of Christmas my exams


my tests yea, everyday I have one test, I don't know ah the community say that uh I think who's the in charge of the community <NEN> right


they said that uh what, Friday don't need to come so might not might no no no might not be might not, uh what is it they said that, might not, uh need to come because is the eve of the Christmas dinner


so they like they want us to rest so she they said that maybe you know our , what's that the schedule is, twelve thirteen fourteen right then fifteen is the Christmas dinner right but then they said that twelve thirteen to come fourteen is Friday so everybody rest


and drama, yea I don't know


hopefully we don't have to come lah, I am pretty sure that whole week we have to go to church there, cause we will have practice for both the dance and then the, rehearsal twelve thirty


uh close to half the song already, it's quite easy to to catch up so you can just come for practice and get start, why we three here three here


you are in the middle you are in between me and Joanna, that means uh is only for awhile after that we will shift, I I haven't watch the video yet was I doing a funny funny thing at the last part


on they were watching it on their own, and then, then what were they watching after that


I know Leon Leon likes to watch the what's that , that colorful thing you know that car and all that stuff, Spanish, eh you know children can pick up languages from very fast right from young


so if they watch if they watch a video that is not like a language that we teach them, then they will learn it quickly


no lah but I think I think like he will be able to do it lah he will be able to learn maybe you will never know he might learn English, Tamil Malay Chinese okay Chinese and Spanish, okay


I also can talk what what languages, eh you know one of, !wah! <mandarin>很好:hen hao</mandarin> okay but then you know some of my friends right uh know know some of my friends I have a friend in secondary school


he went to us to study I think so you know down there it's like it's like compulsory for them to take the French Italian Spanish all that, so each year that he went he took one year he took Italian one French then Spanish like year after ya lah


so he know all the three languages he knows English, he knows like when he came to Singapore study he took Tamil what so Tamil then we all we have Malay friends right, so, uh he learns like Malay from there and Chinese friends so Chinese ah so he knows like about eight languages


maybe, why I I think that some Singaporeans can sing what why not


really, oh ya maybe they never post like maybe it's just circulated among friends and family, I really very hungry I really want to eat the Briyani right now


you want eat Briyani okay then let's just go Tekka, but okay now is what twelve twenty four so twelve thirty, by the time we are done with this is two o-clock so by the time we reach there is about maybe two thirty


close to two o-clock ya by the time we reach there is like two thirty the thing the problem is I have I I have no problem the thing is, I have a straight bus from there to school, but half an hour journey


I have a straight bus twenty three, but, if we go there means we have to eat fast and that's the problem, okay finish at two thirty means I would I would have to I would have to take the bus by, by three fifteen I can take the bus at three fifteen so means


ya I mean which is more than enough time ya I know but the but, like, see when you are hungry how hungry you are later I am very hungry


I'm too really very hungry so you can just buy separate Briyani and, eat together later, and be ya fat today


ya that's what you say then you go down in the end


good what his house he's alone at home half the time, like he's at home half the time he doesn't even go down so might as well just bring him down now, next time we just next time just wake him up and bring him down, ya eh you know what he didn't even cry today morning


I, no, no as in he didn't cry when I was leaving to school, today morning, ya, he was I think he was too sleepy lah because he keep waking up middle of the night


he woke up I I I was showering I was bathing then <NEN> was in the toilet, uh then she came up you know okay so wait wait let me finish the story first so after that ah he was lying down, and then I took my bag then I say bye Leo then he just like show me bye then he


and then I I was wearing my sandals and then he came up to the the, gate and then he, he was looking at me like that looking at me like that looking ah what, I just, no ya puppy face with that like he just pop his face out from the gate then he kept looking at me


ya I just slowly ya I say bye Leo then he say eh you know what I have a I have a thing here is like a ball here, really really I I eh <NEN> said that is maybe because I sleep one side so like


is like a bone or muscle that just pop, like it just came up, and we will go down, what disgusting you are disgusting


what movie, what you, okay okay okay okay okay then I think we just go with next, from where


tomorrow is what oh ya we can go buy Starbucks tomorrow what, are you wait I finish school at five I will will go straight to Tekka from school, so by the time I reach should be six o-clock, okay then we go eat Briyani


never mind never mind cause I thought you wanted to go to Starbucks so so we can go to, Nex but then, I think never mind we'll just go and eat Briyani then tomorrow


okay not tomorrow Saturday, eh I I you are helping out for the Christmas party is it, so you can follow me we can go buy Starbucks and we can go to church


and then I I think I think I have worship practice so, worship practice and then, dance practice, and then, we can go back home, so Saturday buy Starbucks so at least ya at least you can just ask money from my payment money just need to save a bit


ya eat cheesecake, I ate cheesecake today in school, two fifty, one dollar cheesecake I want to try that one dollar cheesecake is it nice


like is it like, creamy or is it very light, okay is I think I know which shop is it the shop that sells all the


okay I know which shop already it's not Beard-Papa right is something is some other shop right, wait oh I think I know it's the the shop is like yellow colour right, then they have all the small small tarts


ya okay I know, which shop, but I thought it was one dollar plus or is it two dollars how is it, one dollar, I very sleepy right now


I woke up at seven, to be in school early what, ya I woke up and then I went to school and then uh, I went to see my teacher then my teacher brought me to the office


no, she probably, she brought me to the student services office lah stupid, is a okay is like a office where you can go there and then you need like help with like some school issues or like


ya and stuff and so because I have some fees that are outstanding so she brought me there, to, uh ask them if like what what can they do for me lah like, is it installment is it what what and stuff


so ya, then uh, what is that ya lah, summon there, sharon


ya they are graduating next year, so they will graduate next year then next year me, Eric and Emmanuel will be year three, then we will graduate together lah, me Eric Emmanuel we will graduate


same what course ah think so, should be same course lah, uh no not all the time, sometimes is different timings


some days are different timings others is like, timing like same timing like one o-clock or some, like Mondays some Mondays I meet them to eat lunch, ya so


I'm feeling very hungry also, what's your usual coffee shop order for Kopi or Teh, Teh Peng lah that one is Teh Peng #gah dai#


what's the Malay version, okay what's the most busybody thing you've ever done, like, tell me one lah tell me example


no I mean like what what did you eavesdrop on like what were they talking about, just tell me one lah one conversation, like a very interesting one


what were they saying


oh, then you already knew what they were gonna buy for you , eh they might as well my twenty first birthday, I miss my birthday


spoilt, (ppb) who told me ah, oh ya I heard the song


actually I saw from afar before I heard the song, but then I would have already known that something's happening what if they blindfold me you know, like I'm not stupid


you all all of your hide what I mean all of you all hid, ya Hannah all hid, they just like crouch down so that can't cannot see that like, they're there, ya I was I really waiting to go and eat at Newton you know I was damn hungry that day then I was


what still, stingray is better than Briyani, Kangkong stingray


and cereal prawn, and barbecue chicken wing, and then


ya, no okay k ya ya cause it's a family you know why cause <unk> they have like Tauhu then, egg and like prawn and stuff so it's like it's like it's like a big family


rice is alone rice is like, with a drinks ya no it's a complement you know so you know it comes together, actually I feel like eating seafood


just rice and eat, why it's not that expensive what, where, not Newton let's go like somewhere else


eh you know oh wait wait you know there's this place here, it's called the Tai-Seng I mean this place Tai-Seng I know but, there's a Flame Cafe here you know Flame Cafe right, the one I told you the four tier


okay that means the bottom okay it's like it's like four round circles, and it's like connected with a stick in the middle so it's like a steamboat kind, so the bottom is like uh soup I think <unk> Tom-Yum soup or whatever soup you choose lah, then the middle, the on top of it is like I think it's grilling and stuff


then on top of that is cheese, one whole thing of cheese cheese, and then #siew mai# on top like not #siew mai# all those like #dim sum# stuff, no it's cheaper there like twenty dollars per person


actually it's fourteen right, today, no, no no no no no STeph no I have I have school I


what next one, no no


see that's why I told you you can just go to, Tekka we go Briyani we can go eat Briyani, K either Briyani or Eighteen-Chefs cause about the same price


Briyani is six dollar plus, no Eighteen-Chefs is seven dollar twenty cent, no I went to eat two, no two weeks ago I went to eat with <unk> I give my student card and it was seven dollar twenty cent they increase the price already


ya they increase the price already to seven dollar something, and then you know last time ns man is like seven dollar something right now is like eight dollar plus, so we can just go to


cheapest and nicest Briyani lah, like uh cheapest and nicest food I don't know, I've no idea


no food as in like meal or food as in like snack, okay chicken rice nice, actually i feel like eating chicken rice


hungry, just so tired and so hungry and I really don't want to go back to school but If I don't go back to school I need take mc, no that's like wasting my time my time my time my time


no my time, my time my time my time , for what


no not now where's my phone, wait where's my phone K oh it's here in my pocket, K I can text him but I think he has work so see how, no lah he needs to


to, uh what is that, uh just no he needs to go and deliver what, he's doing it alone


ya, the what you mean, why alone cause he he doesn't have attendant, no Prakash already got the place #Wee Zhu# is not working anymore


got a new job lah, yea, but he poor thing lah there, he's damn poor thing


ya cause like he doing alone you know, what, best place


what ah I don't know Bugis, go where, Bugis, what's on first December


what again what you mean they not gonna be there


no they can go to the heritage center what, there's one in #Kampung Glam# I'll, I'll I'll, there's one in #Kampung Glam# then there's one in, what is that place


Indian Heritage centre centre in Tekka, center in Tekka then I think the Chinese one they having in Chinatown right, Chinatown, so why the, ya so they have they can just go in to learn about the cultures then they can go to their friend's house


like to you know like they have Deepavali or Christmas and then just go their house to learn about the culture and stuff, #Haw-Par#-Villa, you mean the one that have the ya ya is #Haw-Par#-Villa


ya let's go, not today I mean like let's go someday, like, wait we ya I think is free, I think so or I don't think you have to pay even if you need to want to go also I don't think you need to pay so much


maybe like about five dollars lah


ya, steal, no lah, number two please just can send


double two places gets a church cause I go there all the time, all day, day every single day all day every day every single day


most liked acronym, lol, laugh out loud, hate what I hate ah, love all eh love


ah laugh out loud but it last time it used to be lots of love, just tell lah, okay, then then uh what what is the what most hated is it


what do you mean most hated, home


no no no I mean go, home as in like if generally if I'm telling somebody then just like go home lah you know then you go home and sleep, but if all right is escape the crowd so you can go to like watch a movie


like you just be sitting down you know in the theaters so, what Kia, afraid afraid, ya you


is the most disgusting, lizards and all those other stuff, but they're not evil like they're just part of the food chain you understand no they're just part of the food chain like understand right


so ya they just part of the food chain so they just exist to be there, what again


what event in the past, year make me or like shocked or something is it, I don't know someone, passing away, someone who is


what is that, someone who is, well that passed, like you know who has been well all the time like you know have no sickness and stuff, and then they suddenly pass away


I think okay ya ya so I can tell you this story then so once we and grandma we took the taxi okay so this guy he was asking us if we were married, K husband and wife he she was married, so <unk> said no and then he he asks ah who am I, so uh <unk> says that she's my sister and oh she's too young to be your sister then say ya because


I have three other siblings in between so she's like my younger sister lah and my youngest and I am the oldest, so the, he was saying ya ya I have like uh three other children lah


and then three three children okay so we ask him oh three children are they married schooling you know we ask him that question, and then, uh he said, ya lah two married already, then after that I marry again lah so I got another three more children eh four children so he has seven children seven kids


and all of them are boys except one eh not all of them he has, five boys and two, girls, so is like in the first marriage is like two boys one girl, second marriage is like three boys one girl, ya so is are mostly boys lah


then I ask him uh so like who do you live with and stuff then he say oh I just live on my own then I said what happened to your wives, then he say oh no both of them die already then I was like !huh!, then I said why you mean like they passed away or something then say no like one is she I think she had cancer or something


then the other one is, she had uh like, what is that called, just like, she just passed away like that lah, ya, so he was saying I ask him lah he say okay uncle you taxi driver right


let's say how are you able to like support your children like for them to study and all, then he say my children they just, they don't go to school [loh] then I say what you mean by they don't go to school, no like they do study just that like home I think home study lah like maybe somebody teaches them then they


go to school then some of them like old enough to like get married and work so, they work so they they are they are the ones that have education then the younger ones they like don't have education right, so what happened is the older ones they provide for the younger ones lah to like study and stuff and they also have financial assistance what


so like that lah they just, they just uh, what's that like move with their life, in that manner, ya


then like, I told my friend I say I mean like people are fortunate to, get, education, without suffering and stuff


K, if you could teach Singaporean students one lesson what would it be, ya Singaporean students


okay, okay but what you mean by talk proper English okay like tell me something else lah, love and respect Singapore in what sense


older ah elderly people


why didn't do that


okay so what's your favourite hawker dish, makes you, drool what favourite hawker dish makes you drool, yes okay I think I think one of the best hokkien-#mee# that I tried is, one is at


uh what is that place #Serangoon#-Garden, then another one is at uh is <unk> house it's at Bukit-Batok, ya, because you never tried right, ya and then one more is uh


what is it ah that one other shop, the other shop is at, wait I trying read the name, okay never mind , classroom experience okay best be secondary school


I had uh, my teacher, she actually gave us, chocolates and sweets and told us to not touch it at all, or do anything at all until uh


until what ah, until ah ya so she said she told us not to do not to touch it at all until we, we answer her questions, so the questions were like quite difficult questions as in it's nothing got to do with studies it's got to do with like character development and stuff


so one of the question was, like, what is it ah like some one of the question was like, if somebody said this to you how would you react, and if like and other stuff lah so like it was quite difficult to answer because


it is like not, not, like something you answer to like your teacher or your class, mates and tell them something is like something that reveals, what's that called


something that reveals I won't say your true self but something you've been hiding for so long or, and stuff, no lah like, I mean ya some questions I did that okay I I wanna ask


if you could relive a moment of your life which would it be, that means like you want to go back to the same memory or what like relive, no not, yea relive not relieve


if you could have any career without worrying about money what would you do, that means like you don't have to worry about money money is given to you, like as how much you want so, like, what career would you do lah


and why, why


five ah what, five, five rupees doctor, yea, and what kind of doctor would you wanna be


you can't be all you can't be all the doctor you can be a surgeon, a gynaecologist


what do you wish still existed from your childhood, that means that if from your childhood


Tamagotchi, I I think they still sell it but is not as much as we used to have, lah like last time a lot of shops used to sell it, at like a very long I mean not very long


what again, it's two hours, two hour fifteen minutes okay so what are your biggest pet peeves, means you don't like that somebody do does this and stuff


you, you, I think for me is like some if somebody like uh, uh ah how to say, like if the person like


doesn't brush their teeth, before like doing everything yes


that's all, okay so let's move on, what useless subject ended up being useful to you later in life, what you mean


to do, so you think that like for now is, learn everything, what is your I know it sounds weird but just try it thing


food, why isn't that


how is it weird sound how does it sound weird like a lot of people do it what, why, is it nice, oh okay


what parts of your personality do you think have changed over time, okay I really cannot stand, because like we are coming I I can't come back cause after this I need to go back to school already


then after school we need to I need to go back home and stuff and it's going to be very late by the time I come back home, so ya, anyway you can just continue lah uh local talent which Singaporean dead or alive do you most admire


Singaporean dead or alive, uh do you most admire like somebody who like sing dance or stuff like that


like just tell me one, anything, like alive also it's okay doesn't have to be dead the person doesn't have to be, no it can be anything


why, ya we'll be together in Malaysia right, K so another question maybe


uh what did you collect, as a hobby when you were growing up like what were you collecting when you were growing up, seashells what kind of seashells did you collect


cone cone shape, have you uh you know I have collected one that is like uh, transparent and it has glitter


but I dunno how like it's made that way as it is a real seashell, that means its just transparent, uh actually I won't say transparent ah maybe translucent, and then it has like some like I won't say glitter also maybe shine to it


yep, okay would you rather have kids or would you rather have pet, why


not the same amount of attention as, oh okay


oh you mean not as much attention as kids as as you as pets lah, why not you can I mean you can discipline the child it's called discipline not training lah discipline in the sense that


like you can discipline your child to not be rude to other people you can discipline the person the child to not be like, what's that, to ya just to not be rude to other people lah, another stuff


okay, we have a vision for tomorrow, what's the one thing about Singapore that should be preserved for the next generation, something in Singapore


that is related to Singaporeans or Singapore that should be, preserved to the next generation why Singlish


okay but don't you think that Singlish is, something that, should we should come out of, in the sense that like, because of Singlish like some of us we don't really speak proper English


and I think proper English is something that we should cultivate and not Singlish because, like when we go out to work or when we go like we like travel to other countries and stuff like, if you going to speak in Singlish then people will not understand us just like somebody is going to speak to us in like a certain accent then you know


maybe for us is not possible


because we live here or what, Singapore culture, okay any other stuff that you that like it should be passed on to the next like preserved for the next generation


you okay language is okay but like preserved in the sense like something that is like, being done in Singapore over time that it should be preserved, okay, why National Day Parade


why do you think that, like like uh what do they call it, patriotic pride lah that's why


okay so what's your most favourite canteen snack, ya or like dish or whatever lah anything you, what's that


cheese tofu is it, I used to have oh I love to I love to eat this thing like is like cheese ball but is cheese tofu in my secondary school, so one is like one used to be like twenty cents or thirty cents so you can buy like five for a dollar eh five for one fifty


ya so I used to buy there and then I eat during lunch time and then it will be very hot and I bite into that and the cheese it just ooze out, ya I love it, ya and then I used to eat like uh, there used to be like fried rice and like Bee-Hoon or something in in that school


why, but is it like what healthy food now or like it's the same normal food, what again


why do you say so, really, that that means if you buy


like, a plate of like uh fried rice then they will give you, they will give you a, vegetables as well as fruits, uh ya okay your turn fine


what do I always complain about uh maybe that my house is messy and like other stuff, and, teacher make the biggest difference in my life


uh I think it's my secondary school teacher, she was my geography teacher so I used to like uh not do quite well in like certain subjects even though she's not like, that she's even though she's not part of like


that, it I mean I I I'm not, ya not that subject teacher so even though she wasn't that subject teacher she used to be like, what is that, like


be help help me out with like certain things you know sometimes stay back with me to like oh also liaise with like other teachers to, what is that, ya


Hokkien-Mee, what is that


splurge on, what do you always splurge on splurge on ah maybe, clothes, shoes or makeup, ya


I haven't really ask you this but what what why do you really like why do you like bts, bts became a group


likes no but slowly, ya


uh what what you mean


as in they learn and memory


so basically is like, you like them because they work hard to achieve their dreams and like to be a, like well known this one lah so basically they're settled right they actually earn a lot leh, so like their actually settled they don't even if they don't, like uh


work or stuff like that or even sing then, like even if they don't sing or whatever then they will at least uh, ya they will still earn because like people are still buying their merch


they as in like whole group will be together for five years okay


that means, like they don't want to disband but they want to be, what other bands do you like like, what uh as in other than bts or whatever lah like music directors or singers


like who do you like, who's Samuel, seventeen is a Korean group or what a band okay and then


was he like one of the lead singers in that group or like was he like just a member or something like that


ah you mean Pentagon is the, is a group lah okay, but why like did the manager do that


oh okay, or just visit girl lah you cannot have any relationship okay then


Pentagon kick the manager out, the guy that had a girlfriend


which oh okay, once they kick the girlfriend out


like Hyuna is, she's she was a solo artist from last time or, she has been like, she's not part of group lah she was never part of a group, K, so


maybe let's continue what's the best worst thing that can happen to you in Singapore, ya, okay Steph do you know the new drinks in Starbucks, ya is a Christmas drink so what kind of drinks do you like


cotton candy have you tried what other drinks, the Java chip, and what else


as for, have you tried the desserts there, what cheesecake do you like, is it the New-York cheesecake


Oreo cheesecake, do you know they have like other uh, sides and desserts as well, ya deep dish beef pie


other stuff, water bottles, oh I didn't know that what kind of water bottles do you, oh the one that is an insulator is it


cup with the straw oh is it the kind that the the straw, uh they have a, thing that stops the straw from coming out, do you like coffee or tea Steph


why tea


uh do you like coffee with milk or just, normal coffee like, very sweet, so what else do you uh like to drink, other than coffee or other than tea sorry


you left your green tea, oh where did you leave your bottle, at home oh okay, okay so other than green tea what else do you like to drink


iced lemon tea, chocolate milk, and what else, ya oh what flavour do you like I like the green one


why the purple one I think the purple one taste like cough syrup, nice, why did you why is that, you don't like the green one, but the green one is green apple


then uh do you , other than like Yakult do you like Vitagen, no Vitagen taste like, cough syrup I think, and with


ya maybe medicine, so so Steph uh what do you do in your holidays


Chinese drama what kind of dramas uh do you watch , other than Chinese dramas, Korean dramas, what Korean drama do you like


you haven't watched it yet, oh okay, is that a ghost movie, so you like the movie Garfield right or or you mean you want to watch the movie Garfield


is it a Malay movie, oh what what is the story about


where did he put the nail, on the middle of the head okay for like okay so continue like he went to see the priest


he has to make her a ghost lah, something that leaves, are eaten early is it, but as in a human form or what, okay then, okay


and what then what will she do, and then what else


so so, as in the her soul will die or like the body will also die, that reminds me of a ghost story that like I heard from my dad


okay so he once said that like he was walking back home, uh after work so he had to walk, for very long and then uh, what happened was, that, he have to walk for every long and then what happened was uh he was walking with his friend so they heard something like following them


or something, and then like, there were like whistling sounds and stuff, so there were whistling stuff and sounds, stuffs so like while they were walking, uh my dad's friend was like telling my my dad oh I'm I'm very scared can we walk faster


and then ah let's go home quickly so they were carrying ah, it was the time of the Hari-Raya-Haji time so you know is when they cut the goats right, ya in the in the mosque ya so they call it the Korban or something like that so they cut the head


of the goats eh I mean the body parts of the goats and stuff like is a sacrifice, to their deity and stuff so like what happened was, my my dad was bringing back home like, packet I think of meat


ah ya plastic of meat with like of other food and stuff so when he was going back home right, he they kept on like following him he felt uncomfortable so, uh and also when they're going back home it was during olden times right so they live in the quarters like quarters as in like


something like this something like a hdb flat, but like, I so they only live on the first floor if I'm not wrong, ya so uh, then uh, he they quickly walked home and while they were going back home


they uh, like have to walk past the, cemetery, they have to walk past the cemetery so while they walking past the cemetery and then, my dad was like he got he was damn shocked, like


because like he saw something go past him, so he could saw something go past like him and then what happened was, like quickly walked back home and then he open his house door so he quickly told his friend to like quick faster rush in


he quickly told his friend to faster rush in and then like, he close the house door and then like, after that he just opened up a plastic of meat and then he threw it outside, the window


ya the I think so so while they were eating the food and then his wife I mean which is my mum, they were like complaining say oh why the food is like not nice and stuff and then his friend's wife and then the children were all like complaining why the food like, there is no there is no salt


there is no salt and, ya like no salt and like proper taste or anything, then uh they told then my dad and my family, as in my friend's siblings


ya so uh as I was saying like my dad like, he brought back home the food right so they there wasn't any taste in it and stuff and then his friends like his wife friend's wife and also, the children they were saying like they were complaining that there were no


there's no taste in the food and, no salt and stuff, like, they I mean like they have to keep quiet like and eat because you know it's a ghost the ghost was following them and stuff, like after they eat that's when my father told them lah that you know there's no food in there's no taste in the food cause because


they, there's no taste in the food is because, they had to, go past a cemetery and a ghost was following them right so, uh because of that they had to


that like basically the basically the ghost was following them right so what it did was it was latching onto the, latching onto the taste ya the meat, so uh what happened was because it was latching on to the meat and the taste right


like it so called suck out, the taste and the like the the nice, uh taste and the smell of the food and everything from the food itself lah so like, have you heard of any other stories maybe your friends told you or your grandfather or


anything, just tell me one lah maybe a simple one or something


anything like just tell me anything


the the grandfather's house that they went that morning


cause they spoke to him in the morning right


[orh] okay, okay so like talking about, our maybe our parents or our siblings and aunties young time, memories like what do you miss most from your childhood


[orh] go to a playground


doesn't she have any social media, or like uh maybe Facebook or, ya so doesn't she have any like social media social media, I think for me is what I miss most from my childhood is that like


going down to play with my friends, and also like not having the stress of school on me and, uh not waking up really early to like go to


not waking up really early to go to , school I mean waking up sorry waking up really early to go to school, primary school to meet my friends, to have like a time uh to like run around and play and, so like


just happy lah you know, that sense, so, maybe talking about us now (ppb) like, what personal trait do you dislike most about yourself, personal trait in a sense that like


maybe something that you do like maybe your attitude or like, the way you talk to somebody something like that, personal trait lah like, uh something that you do, that, character wise or principle wise whatever that you know


that you dislike about youself, what do you mean


so what do you think you can improve on, in terms of like talking to somebody


I think I can give you a suggestion that you know like, uh maybe because you say that you you feel that like you talk disrespectfully to somebody right or be rude to them so I think what's, important maybe should be to


think before you talk, like before you speak to them like if they say something listen to them fully before they finish saying what they have to say, and also like think before you say something and not just blatantly saying out, and just be rude to them lah like you know


like let's say If I ask you something and then if you gonna answer like maybe just think before you reply me, ya but obviously don't take too long then somebody the person will think that you're ignoring them or you're just like, I'm not interested in talking to them


so like, ya I think, that's important lah, also, like be as long as they are someone older than you, in and if you don't like them I think what's important is that


just give them the due respect, ya, so ya, think that's about it, If I could turn back time


in my younger, maybe what I would have done different would be, I think


would be to be more cautious of what I say, what I do like my actions because I know like ultimately everything leads up to, what I am today so like if I'm if like, I was able to change the way I talk to somebody or change the way I reacted to somebody while I was angry


or sad, or whatever lah I mean, as long as, what I think what I say and what I do, is pleasing until like, yes like do unto others what you want others to do unto you right so


like, then uh I think what's important is that, you should like I mean for me lah it's like I think that, as long as I, maybe some things that I did that was not right so maybe I


could change that, instead of making a certain decision I could have, like maybe now when I think about it I could have done, something else something better like you know when I was in O-levels I didn't really do well, for my O-levels because I didn't really study much so I think


maybe that could have been a factor factor, for uh one of the decisions that I could have, ya that I could have changed, ya


smarter


so, let's say, okay, next, when did you last have a truly meaningful conversation with someone, and what did you talk about


okay


ya and I think that's important because, like I mean I also went through secondary school and all so what's important is that, like I had many friends who did many things that were wrong, so what I did was when they they were doing


stuff that were wrong, what I did was I just move away from them, and also like uh, moved away from them and also, try my best to actually


not, ya more like lead them to the right when as in speak to them about the wrong things that they do and also, uh tell them that you know, this is wrong and stuff


ya but you can always keep trying it's not like you can always, uh keep, trying and telling them that you know it's like, wrong, or tell them know instead of doing this maybe you can do something else like instead of smoking or drinking or whatever


maybe they can do something else like, exercising reading a book, and if they feel like they cannot control their addiction then maybe they can like go and see a counsellor, ya


what I value most would be, that, I have friends who I can really talk to, uh somebody that I can rely on when there is when, I have a problem, or trouble


and also I think what's important is that, what I really value most is that my friends are listening ears and they do not like judge me for who I am, and they do not


uh say that oh I'm like this you know you should change this way and stuff, so ya that's why I value most, not only friends who lead me to the right way, I as in friends who


have your back, even when you do wrong friends who have your back when you do right and also friends, who are there for you, in any situation, I think most important is that, is not about how many friends you have is about


the quality of friends you have I have only, I can say personally I can I have a only handful of, friends maybe about less than ten, friends a handful of friends that, who will help me when I'm in need or are there for me and happy for me


ya so like, what's important is that, they, they , like choose your friends wisely lah so that's what I think


is the most important


so moving on maybe what, risks have you taken for someone, ya you love like, risk as in, anything, I guess not like life or death situation but like anything else


but do you think that by taking the blame or you know, taking a risk for somebody, for something that they did wrong, is a right thing or wrong thing


oh okay


favourite place I been to and what what's the second one significance, is it in Singapore or like anywhere, okay I went to, uh Cambodia


I love that place because , ya I love that place because, like, the life there and in Singapore is totally different, like, in Singapore is very fast paced and everything is because we are a developed country but in Cambodia is is not


uh developed country it's still developing, so like, the lessons I learnt from there is, lessons I learn here, is like totally different like there, like uh in Cambodia I I was able to mingle around with the villagers and also live in their village


for three days, so I, I was there for seven days, so, like uh, I stayed in the village for three days and, uh learn about their culture


learn about, ya like uh they usually wear those kind of, long eh they they wear normal clothes as well, but on days that they have, what's that their public holidays and like


anything that they celebrate regard regarding their culture and their religion or anything, uh ya they wear different clothes colorful clothes, uh made up of wool and like thread like those, silver threads or shiny threads


ya and usually those clothes are only worn like once or twice a year so, like, I think, that is something unique about them that, I mean it it's also similar to Singapore in the sense that, us Indians Malays and Chinese we all wear you know


traditional our traditional clothes and Saris and and, Cheongsam and #baju kurung# ya so, like, what's important was that there I learn about their culture I also learn about their their state of living, their standard of living because I mean in Singapore here we have everything


even I mean I would say even the low income or those that are not well to do, they do have some place to stay and some some means of help but over there they don't really have much, help why help in like helping them to


or leading them to a better uh life, and also like, so like , ya their standard of living there, is like not as good and also they do not have people who lead them to uh a better life


like they do not have organisations they do have organisations, but not as much as Singapore does and they are not as effective as you know Singapore organisations are lah, no I won't call it slums or quarters is like a Kampung you know they have like those huts and uh made made up of


ah ya, ya, no they do have technology but not as much as Singapore like uh comparing Singapore and Cambodia I think that


Cambodia there the the place maybe the place that I went was a village side and was like where all the, really, I won't say they are poor as well they are like okay they are well they are, they can manage their finances well and stuff so I think


it's just that what's different is that there uh in Singapore we can get our facilities it's everywhere we can go to go somewhere to eat that is really nearby, uh hospitals are nearby clinics and you know like even when you want to go see the doctor it's really nearby and


to also like, they we have built in toilet in our in our flats so like that is like our privilege we are that we don't know that, countries like Cambodia Vietnam they actually, there when I went there, they did not have toilets on their own ya


ya they do not have toilets in built in their house, ya they have to go like really far away to go and do their business and also like, ya is like open space, is sort of I mean if you


follow them that obviously you can see, what they're doing but if if they are going to go very far away from where they're living then you can't really see, and also like, there their facilities is if they need to get anything


they have to go out of their, village to go out if somebody is really badly injured and like, fighting for their lives then they need to go to the hospital so like they have to go out of the, village, and to the doctor's


oh okay, so is I mean like it's difficult for them right we here we here Singaporeans we have a lot of


opportunities and also facilities that as difficult for them so maybe like, I think that, you know I sometimes is also the government that plays a part I guess, ya so ya


ya continue never mind, continue like what maybe they should to give you're giving a suggestion to do what


okay, so maybe uh


one life lesson that you've learned from the books you've read, been since we are talking about this so, one life lesson


ya you were saying


or whatever they go through, that's a good lesson to learn, one of my favorite, books that I have read


Five People You Meet in heaven, so it's by Mitch-Albom, and the story is how this guy he actually leads a life where he is very sour and very bitter, and, and like he goes gets into an accident


uh he goes to this shop that he buys stuff so it's basically like his life story, but and it's only like a few chapters of that so after that he dies, yes he dies in a car accident, and, uh I think he dies in a car accident and no uh no he doesn't die he actually


gets admitted into hospital in a coma the car accident for five weeks, ya he's in a coma for five weeks, so what happens is that, the story is because he five people he meet in Heaven right so he has the illusion that he goes to Heaven


ah he has the illusion that he goes to Heaven, and then, he'll meet these five people that, are actually are not significant people in his lives but they have impacted him, because of the small decisions that they that


they or him made, in his life so like, once would be one would one example would be the guy that, caused the caused the accident, ya the guy the guy that caused the accident


that guy he died on the spot, ya but this guy the one that uh, in coma, ya he will be meeting this guy and actually, people will say that the accident was caused by the guy that died


but the accident was caused by this guy, in the coma and why is because, because of a small decision that he made, he was driving, the guy was driving so it's it's a T-junction eh no it's a cross junction so this they are both on opposite side


and they will have to turn the opposite ways lah we understand right so how they turn, and then uh this guy he picked up his phone, the one in the coma ya, he picked up his phone uh to text somebody, so while he was texting somebody he didn't know where he turn and he crash into the guy


ya, but, what happen was the other guy he didn't do anything at all he was just waiting for the signal, and to move so like, ya so, the basically like, a life lesson I can learn is that


like every small decision that I make, even like uh while I'm crossing the road if I don't actually, look out or you know like I'm just using my phone I'm also a danger to my life, ya so like every small decision even the smallest thing like what I say


and uh, how I react to somebody, or like, even just talking to somebody and saying something so ya, no there's no movie they don't have a movie about it, it's a story book and they have


this , author his name is Mitch-Albom so, he has, many uh different, books ya, he have many different books about, I think about


five or six, he has one that is called the Timekeeper the one that I read is five people that We Meet in Heaven, heaven, heaven, then the other five people you'll meet in heaven, and then uh also he has


he has , what else, he has other books like, Tuesdays with Morrie, ya so tell me what other books have you read


so what what the what what is one of the story that, you have read or, that you like


is it a terrace house or is it like normal hdb flat okay terrace house landed property okay


okay, okay, ya


okay, (uh huh)


okay


call her, by her name, okay, ya


okay, what kind of meat, goat meat okay, oh okay he is like inviting her with a sacrifice is it


and quickly cut off


okay so she like fainted and then he went to the priest, okay


oh so they got married, so if she if, okay, ghost stories that I've read ah


I won't say I've read this but I've heard this from my friend while we were in secondary school so we used to have night studies, in our school, ya sec-four sec-five uh we have N-level O-levels right so we used to have night studies in our school and out of the whole school only the canteen


lights are open, only the canteen lights and the general office and basically the the front part of the school you know the general office the foyer and stuff, ah no no the lights there are open but the general office is closed


so only the teachers and uh whatever that is in the, who I mean whoever that is in the canteen the lights on lah so, basically one day you know as secondary school students my friends they wanted to just go up and explore


the school, and then, they heard like some noises and like shadows passing by so ya, ya in the school


by the mannequin or, okay


okay, so basically the thing was disturbing them or the the mannequin was moving around them, oh okay okay


oh okay, she went alone, okay


the girl didn't reply, why, she knew about the story


okay, you you mean the girl didn't follow her behind but was already in the toilet when she came in


oh okay, and only both of them were in the school or what, oh okay okay


anyway like uh, what drama, okay, what drama is that


okay, continue ya


okay


her phone oh okay crack, pay him, pay her the money okay


okay, oh okay


so that's not Lay's girlfriend is just her his crush, okay


Sanya what what what is that the place, where is that, okay


okay, go and sign up, okay, did she he wanted to go there so he convinced his friends lah


talk to him or or okay, okay


okay but then the girl is not poor, she's really poor she's like like I mean in real life she's poor or she's not acting, okay, okay


okay before the lights off, okay, oh okay


ya, and then you like people talking about them and stuff


okay, to have like ah personal time lah own personal time


oh okay


Lay, okay


he will confront her or what, oh okay, oh okay


they will meet each other they will go on vacation then she will tell what


okay but doesn't she have to apply for leave or something like, drama, okay


the girl that likes pineapple he's the one that took video, and then, okay, four four girls


is just a plan to like uh, okay


okay, okay


oh okay, okay, but she didn't really see if it's Lay a not


oh okay, Lay Pineapple Head, ah okay okay Thomas


then, okay, oh okay, to like clean up okay


but people framed him, but they hey is it a real photo or was it Photoshop or something


okay, ya, Lay Thomas


okay okay, Jason, Jason right is I think so


oh okay, during that time what will happen, when they're trying to find, lay


like basically he's so called stalking her and then he saved her lah, oh okay okay, ya


okay, oh okay


which is like in his house lah okay, picture, plot twist


the chin girl is it what's her, it oh she doesn't have a name lah, vacation with them uh the girl strip with them


I mean the the poor girl ya


so basically he send her the picture and then she posted it, and made it seem like Thomas is the one who posted it, okay then


came back from France, okay


ya lah, brag around, no it's not true, okay so the teacher ask them


why why does she wanna do that, things difficult, okay


okay


okay, but will she end up with the pineapple guy or will she end up with Lay because she like Lay, so you haven't watch finish as in it's ending or it's like, forty more episodes


and in episode in nine episode so much happen, but it like seems like it's like the full like thirty thirty episode plus or something, maybe that's why I don't watch Korean dramas because they are too long


ah ya I mean true Chinese drama ya maybe I that's why I don't watch it maybe it's too long, why interesting and fun


as in it's nice to watch, oh is it like the cinematography or is it like the dialogues or like the actors or what


so they take take , seriously and also like try to uh do their best do the best that they can right, so what else maybe


so ya so I think that, moving into like the Singapore context of our local drama side which local drama do you like to watch, Tanglin, my favourite is like right now is this uh drama that they put on ah you know after Tanglin they have this new drama called Kin


(ppb) ya it's like a very nice story because like (ppb), ya it's different and also because like the story how it goes is that uh, they will there'll be two mums two mothers, one is from a rich family one is from a okay like what not so well to do but she's she okay manageable family


and they'll both give birth and at the same day and around the same time so while they are going back home their daughters get switched, ya and then they only realise it like, ya so they only realise it like think twenty three years later when after the


after they, until they twenty three years later when after they grow up, and then they will realise that I think, (ppb) ah both of them will get into accident so how they will figure it out is that both of them will get into accident this girl her name is Ella and then another girl her name is Yoke so she they will just


(ppb) crash onto each other and then both of them will be like, having serious injuries and stuff so that's, ya car crash as in not crash as in like a very serious crash but a minor crash and then that's when they will realise that you know like


oh ah because they will take a blood test and I think some test or something and they will realise that , they actually, ya because how they will know is that when they take the blood test then they will realise that this uh her mother or her sibling


the other mother sibling actually their blood group match, and the this the other girl the Ella and the, ya sort of that kind of context lah, ya so that's when like things will start to happen like they have because the rich guy he the


rich girl she has a very successful brother, so what he would do is he will try to do like all those lawsuit things and try to like change the birth, and all that stuff and then try to get the poor girl to get into adjust into the rich family the rich girl


they will have like some con ya they will switch back and then they will have like a contract for read, so the poor poor family they will get money from that, and the rich family that poor girl she will go to rich family and then and then but instead of the poor rich girl feeling upset right


the poor girl will feel very upset as in <unk> ya the poor girl who went to rich family she will feel upset, because, ya one thing that and also because in the rich family this everything is about money and the poor family is like, they is more like affection and love more than money


then but for the rich family is like oh everything is money money money, ya so basically that's how the story like, is continuing lah, and then like there's a few family that thought they this lady she has cancer so she wants to get her best friend to marry her husband


ya so ya she wants to get her best friend to marry her husband, so, so like currently okay now now the husband, no she she she hasn't died yet, so the the husband uh now he's in China