I I broke free from his his care, I got better lah like when I come back home and he does things to me I will just, ignore, or I will just, I will just, I will just fight my way through lah I just tell him you cannot do this to me


and what I'm doing is not wrong, cause last time when he hit me right his, his reason is always because like oh because you are not studying enough or like what, but now in secondary school I got my studies all figure out, and I am a better person, like I don't throw food anymore cause like I learn how to Tahan them


ya when I was younger the main reason why he will always punish me is, either I throw food, like I don't finish the drink like one or two times, I would never do that


that, that's too tiring, I, is either I throw food, I didn't finish my homework like the homework that he give me not my school homework, like he <mandarin>他叫我写细字:ta jiao wo xie xi zi</mandarin> then <mandarin>我还写那个字我写错:wo hai xie na ge zi wo xie cuo</mandarin> then he tell me to keep repeating but that one he won't punish lah he just erase and keep redoing


or to do practice paper, I remember P five was the hell of my year but I did very well in my studies so, thanks to him, I got third in my class, because I had to do those practice papers every time, and, and, studies or food or I


never clean up the house these three reason, ya he will he will ask me to to take the broom and sweep the house, then like, ya he will find all sorts of reason to find trouble with me, uh I think he was in secondary school or like


if I was in P five like ten years old he will be like around nineteen like poly years, I think because he had a painful childhood that's why he, when he was younger he's like very <mandarin>乖:guai</mandarin> and then he, he's like a very timid little boy because, when he was younger my dad and my mum would always fight a lot then he had to like always


he had to always look at, what the adults are doing he's like a very, poor victim also, ya <mandarin>以前我爸爸很:yi qian wo ba ba hen</mandarin> abusive he really will hit the kids one like, even you are just a kid he will really hit you like if you don't <mandarin>听话:ting hua</mandarin> lah


cause when I was when they were younger my dad and my mum weren't very stable like they always have, fights and all, so can you imagine like if you are the kid, then the parents maybe sometimes will just <mandarin>出气:chu qi</mandarin> on you like, sometimes kids won't understand what's happening what then they will like make a lot of noise or they will cry a lot then you just need some time for quietness


then they will like, you there was one time when my father said, he brought my <mandarin>大哥:da ge</mandarin> to Korea, and then like they were like at the emigrant or something or at the lotte-world or something and they had a very long queue, so after the whole day of traveling my <mandarin>大哥:da ge</mandarin> is like very tired already, so <mandarin>那个小孩子:na ge xiao hai zi</mandarin> like <mandarin>才两三岁:cai liang san sui</mandarin> then <mandarin>要坐飞机要走很远:yao zuo fei ji yao zou hen yuan</mandarin> then <mandarin>其实很累:qi shi hen lei</mandarin> lah <mandarin>他两个小腿:ta liang ge xiao tui</mandarin> cannot handle all these thing


then my <mandarin>爸爸:baba</mandarin> he's like he's like travelling mah then he got all the backpack


but to to a little kid a little is actually very strong one so my <mandarin>大哥:da ge</mandarin> is like <mandarin>要:yao</mandarin> cry <mandarin>要哭:yao ku</mandarin>


then my then he had to like keep it in you know then like after that my father , after that my father realised he was too harsh, then he <mandarin>好啦抱抱啦他就:hao la bao bao la ta jiu</mandarin> he had to like, carry all the bag carry my <mandarin>大哥:da ge</mandarin> so it was not easy for my dad also


as like a single parent, I don't know if they went with my mum though, my dad told me lah like all the bad stuff he did last time, no lah he was, he wasn't proud he was just saying you shouldn't be too harsh on kids sometime


ya, then she will hate you forever, I like my <mandarin>二哥:er ge</mandarin> a lot, because of my <mandarin>二哥:er ge</mandarin> I I like


I like Q you know the Q O O that drink, cause I remember that was the drink that he treated me last time, ya


like how, like her son, she has a son, she's in coma what happen


alright I hope she gets well, I hope she gets well soon, how long has the coma been, is it for a few weeks


four years, does it mean that she's just sleeping or like, she can look and hear y'all, oh you're not sure it's okay we can talk about other stuff


alright I hope she gets well soon so how's your your dad are you all going to eat for like a birthday or farewell lunch, Monday


eh I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine okay, I'm fine with eating at your grandma's house, oh


I still have the Tang-Yuan that time we bought that I haven't cooked, I'm with Amirul, or maybe Amirul can come our house eh to our house to my house and then I can cook Tang-Yuan


no lah but I think Simpang will be better lah I mean, ya Simpang-Bedok lah, because my my <mandarin>大哥:da ge</mandarin> always sleeps very early at night so I think when like when you all come my house we can only stay for a while only


last time lah, now ah, ya, it never change but I guess that's, that's his personality is hard to change I just I just kind of like pity his wife in the future next time


he has a girlfriend you know, and the girl from when after he came back he was very like heads over heels for her


and he even like, uh told us about, how he think that this girl is very different from other people that he has met because he said, this girl though she's very young like they he had a huge age gap I think you know she's one year younger than me somemore


uh yeah then like he thought that, this girl even he he knew her before he knew her age lah so I can't really blame her for that him for that, he said this girl is very mature, and all but like just recently they were fighting and I believe that was my brother who brought it up first because


the reason why he he was calling her and very angry was because, she was very obssess with Korean, idols or like Korean show, but I think is okay because at this age, who doesn't like to watch Korean drama even like my my colleagues now also watch


Korean drama and all what, then my brother was like, so do you like it next time if I look at other girls but the thing is that's just idols like you just, look at them then you admire them is like like a teenage girl day you'll go out of it soon, but my brother is just so insistent


then I find that he should be respecting her for her hobby lah like, and then he keep he keep like threatening I feel I find it very threatening like, if you look at other boys and all and is and is K-Pop idols and they look good everybody think they look good who will not look at, pleasant items who ya right


and then he just like doing this to her and then I feel very bad for the girl lah, and this time my brother to chill a bit leh, is okay what she just want to support the idol that she like what's wrong with that then my <mandarin>大哥:da ge</mandarin> just like keep quiet a bit lor then I, I don't know what's happening now


ya she's very pretty actually no, she is like the very very like traditional Thailand girl but she is very pretty because he set her face as wall paper, and her face itself like very nice very clean


and like the very, the very devoted Buddhist, cause she meditates everyday, because her her mother brought her up to, to meditate every night, or like everyday for like thirty minutes or what so her thinking is always very mature


as quoted from my brother, but there's nothing wrong with liking K-Pop idols, for personally me I don't really like K-Pop idols because, I find that, even though they look good, , ya why weren't I addicted to K-Pop idols ah


because I, I like music I like Jay-#Chou# I like, but I wasn't like obsess like until the point like that I want to put his face on my wall and, then look at him every time before I sleep, i just, I just don't have that feeling to like I want to be their girlfriend or what I just


admire that music lor that's all, maybe that's what my brother thought also


will you still will you still date your girlfriend if she's like this kind of person


i, ya is like her passion, so at least his girlfriend is passionate about something and it shows that like if if your girlfriend is as passionate as they were to the to the celebrity towards you, you'll be a very lucky guy, cause the thing my brother said that okay Instagram she posted the picture of the the idols


on her her her feed you know her feed the the stories lah, and then he was like you you are so obsess that you even do that I'm like, well if if you if you think about yourself again, and if you portray yourself nicely like a confident guys like that she like, maybe she will do that to towards you also


I I don't know I never ask him leh but I feel that, is about respecting each others, hobbies and all you cannot just threaten your girlfriend that, if she keeps doing that you keep doing you start doing the other stuff


because that is not solving the problem


stage, oh okay, ya


so is he happy


(uh huh), how really, really


(hmm), you changed yay, you said that, don't lie do you have


ya you never die, ya you were very persistent, no ah if you I mean if you give up then definitely she won't accept you like you all won't be where you all are right now


(uh huh)


sometimes I always like I will ask my colleagues like, how did you even last so long with your boyfriends don't doesn't it get boring but it's not like I get boring with, whatever I'm just curious like how people would find new sparks in their life for like that long, but I guess it's just about accepting who they are and like creating sparks every like in in everyday


situations of their life lah, is not easy


ya, I, sometimes I I just I also, I also think that, maybe I'm too, like , eh I don't know like


in in knowledgeable enough about like the real world, because I always find the world like so, like it should it could be a simpler life to get when you don't think too hard that kind of thing


they say what, they say what


really by himself, ah, oh, other schools ah, oh


so they can afford to smoke there everyday uh, oh wow, why what if what if you meet people that smokes over there


I bet, dancing, ya


yup, (mmhmm), oh


wow, because you sleep very late


(oo) that's cool, actually have have like try out this habits tracker thingy


so I actually, I I printed out this, this like empty schedule where I plot out what habits I want to have like those habits that I want to have like you know, four of them, and then everyday if I did one of the habit then I will, so recently I I did one of it was the sleeping for


seven point, five hours, so that time I told you I want to sleep by eleven so I actually I went home I already sleep by eleven, yay then I woke up feeling good, I didn't I didn't feel like I want to sleep when I was working


ya it's okay uh weekends are exceptional, I want to go home at what time I want on weekend


yeah Onsen then we can, sleep yay, is at Kallang is at the same place where you and Amirul eat popeye, is just below it


I can't wait to go there and just chill like a pizza, it all depends on your schedule actually, because I have to buy the air tickets early and early, I mean like a few months before like one or two months


it's like the cheap the cheapest will be always, earlier what, really, I bought it for three hundred too


yay, ya ya ya like very last minute then you see who pull out already then you just just slot


is a ticket, air ticket I get it


ya, maybe, ya I was thinking maybe if when if you like come back then you can go back together, if you come Singapore then I will go there find you lor, if you come Singapore then I will go back with you together


but it all depends lah, ya to go Vietnam, but the thing is if I go there where will I stay, ya lah I mean there's people from other school also leh, the the people from the other school are they going to stay in the same bunk


ya ya it may be in the house but then there's


my mum's place ya ya ya, it's like that ah that like your, then you cannot, ya I'm asleep on the kitchen floor, like cooking


okay, alright, why you laughing at, eh I want to talk about the Suntec what were we talking about before Suntec, travelling Nicholas, smoking ya where does he smoke


not like at the bar or something right like just, that's so bad, can you tell him to stop


I was just thinking like what what if he's your kid


no matter if


but then but what if your kid smokes ten sticks every day, I mean ya that that was what I was saying like if your kid was real literally like him like smoking ten sticks a day


trying I don't mind lah ya lah


oh no I will just sent them to classes, I sent to either piano dance, and then all out of the field then after that they can narrow down, because you got so many things you can you can choose, ya but I also access I also, I was I was kind of like observe them during that lesson


but I I will still force him to learn the skill I will force seriously as skill


you must learn one skill in life because you might not know whatever happen, at least you have a talent, you know there's somethings that you are good at, but you something that you like but you're not good at and that just something that you don't like but you are good at


that means what you can do what you like but not earn money from it or you can do you can earn something from it but you don't like, so at least have a skill that you don't like but you can earn money, like piano teacher or like whatever when when you get your piano cert at all


and get ya that's the best lah like Melvin, then you can't survive okay lah you can lah


you can do and not money, but you must be a certified teacher then you can have students that willing to learn


I think I think dance yoga is easier cause yoga you can get the certificate then you can join, and it's so easy just follow the regime, but dance, sometimes dance can lah maybe dance teacher for kids are be are be quite cool for that, because like see how Sharon speaks right


I think because she use to be like a, you see her background she was like a financial consultant or what, she was like a ceo or the director or something right, you are manager eh, manager you like you like something in manager it really shows that your brain is a little bit different like you are capable of something more you are like a leader


and like the way she speaks right, she she always have like a lot of like theory, link to her dance steps and all, so I find that quite quite impressive about Miss Sharon, that which I I think I still lack from lah, like when I teach I always like find it like


I I just have show, examples I don't know, really what do you want to learn, sure


I was thinking Rumba, cause Miss Sharon is very good at Rumba, Ms Sharon, sure why not


[orh] during one lesson maybe just rumba [bah]


I was just thinking eh about our our teacher the hand, if he really has like some like, ya, what what if he really cannot like get better from it what will happen, I was just thinking maybe he will start looking for


students to take over his class, I was just thinking who would it be, or like there will be some, really and there will be some point of time where they will get old right and then someone, he already ask ah, why


true, true, I find him, ya, ya


ya, instead of what


finding faith back in Andrew ah, Andrew apologise


[orh] he went to tda, did he tell Melvin beforehand that he's going or he just go down


you're doing ah


i hope he does because he has a lot of passion for it and also his his mum is very supportive, and and I you know that time when we go Taiwan then we dance at the studio


and then a lot of teachers over there are, produce under the main, teacher, this Malaysian dude that he won a lot of championships, then he produce a lot of teacher and then they have this like idta you know this international dance teacher association


under Latin dance I was thinking next time I can with, if I I graduate or something we can go Taiwan, and like go train and be a teacher over there, ya since Taiwan has a lot of Latin Latin class I can go there and try out


yes I know I need to practise more I get it, ya I will, you will meh


oh, okay, improve together


do you know the Brillante next year is around, April, then when you came back it's like left with two months for us to practise, was thinking maybe I should, take a break from my job like one week or something before


because I remember that time for the tds I I perform quite well because I had a lot of ample time, to pracitse


I think it's around July or August, what


no leh working full time is like so tiring you don't get it Gerald it's it's mentally draining, the things that you do right is is, it's even though it's not physically draining it's mentally, oh, I I can one lah


I see how lah I will just keep my training consistent but I find that the time I really because I did very well because, we get to I get to sleep, however long I want then afternoon I go train, then for that whole week I just keep training and sleeping only that's why I can do so well


I think we can try three dance


oh she said that, obviously


eh but Victoria and Aaron they choreograph the Samba very nice, ya, no lah not ah the bird dance is they they adapt from internet but their own choreo is quite nice, ya


is almost the same as the teacher Melvin one but they like change a bit here and there, I try to find inspirations online lor, ya but I was like also thinking next year if we do we must really train very hard cause we will be we will be competing with our juniors also


like Isabelle, Isabelle ya, international, ya


thirty couples for what, to dance, wow


eh that's not bad leh, you say it's not easy to win


I talk about like we have to, train hard because we will be competing with our juniors


ya the numbers are already there to help you


wait you say you wanted to learn you wanted to learn a skill right, in Vietnam, you say to keep fit learn a skill, not dance or whatever ah


ya ya, maybe you can help me ya you help me keep a lookout if there is any nice costumes


in Vietnam, while if there's better one I think there is always chance to improve, ya, big easy baby


I like my red costume but, I I like I like that after the whole long week and then you look back and like I was I was, I was disciplined myself I came down to to practice for three days


that is a achievement, Wednesday Thursday Friday, I was there, you were there, I'll just look back and I will be very proud of myself, so I will keep on continuing


you know today my brother just suddenly told me he want to learn something and then I said like what, he's like I want to learn cooking you know like, he say he want to go take lessons he said I like take lessons for what


a huge different


oh-my-god why


you told what, don't be like him, Mirul got do like the dance


yup, I even realize that, but yesterday when he came then he was just sitting down there eating cause he came after work what I think he must be tired but he just


ya then he ask you


you do the kicks eh


good job that's the way, how is how is it dancing with with your partner now a days, your partner now ya


like overall how is it dancing like with your partner how you feel your partner progress is


oh what thing


alright, got it, alright


really, because I can afford it


I wish can do dance full time sia because really I find it, challenging to, balance work, with that, work


I would I think I will just, ya I will just focus on


because I can do the steps quite fast


ya that's why I don't think I can be a teacher, cause I can do it but I can't explain it, okay


I will tell her that I want to be as good as Andrew's partner, Elaine


five, grounding, I feel that my grounding is good only because I wear the the the guys shoes, then the heels, with with the heels is, ya but I need to buy a new heels first


cause it's it's getting like it's like dismantling everywhere, haven't cause it's a bit expensive, I think it's around hundred, pound but then if you


ya, no lah, is the Taobao one always you buy already it won't last long what, the international dance shoes that one


ya, Supa Dance, how much


what hundred ninety five, that's crazy it's expensive eh it's around the same price actually, ya it's actually the same price lah after you translate the pounds to


yeap, haven't lah, ya ya


and my my nails are always splitting when I wear the guys shoe, I I know my size


no need, you can save it for next time use, maybe before, maybe before what do you call np concert, cause you have to wear to stage


you mean I can rent from your mum ah, thirty seven point five, my feet lah, I think thirty seven point five , ya I would just buy the same size if I order from Taobao lah better to get the same size what


yeap, because what they sell is what your feet size is what, unless they on the picture say, suggest, if you go down one size small then I will buy one size small lor


does your mum have a lot of dance shoe at home, yup


okay, it's like for what for belly dance, eh why your sister never continue dancing already


ya, to teach her, oh, how does she find the chart if she likes it then next time


[orh] maybe she would like normal hip hop dance cause she got the like hip hop feel, otaku, video editing, oh from her project right


that's why one time with one time only, oh like my face, ya you send me the one that is full of my face


welcome to our radio station, what's the latest movie have you seen recently


you cried like how many time, have you like the scene, it was about like this teacher that was teaching a bunch of , (ppc) !wah! !wah! #zao xia#, (ppb) a bunch of like students right that was very hard to teach from other teachers


and it feel it felt like like a like a kind of story that I may write in my compo, like the my grand the grandmother story the grandmother and the grandson, ya


ya but, it just feels like they just pick up the the story line from some, primary school kid, but I like the part where the teacher, actually helped the students one by one


and he also like go talk to the father, and let the father speak to the kids indirectly, oh the father right, the father say


he want to let the kids know he love them but in real life would would fathers really say that cause it's so mushy, and then you see the two sons crying then obviously the students will know that something is wrong maybe they are the real father


eh but you know the female teacher the Cheng-Qiao-En they put her at the poster but, her scene it was quite little eh


I was expecting more I thought she was going to go for an adventure with the the Donnie-#Yen#, but is quite funny lah


I like yoga because yoga, is very relaxing and at the same times it helps you to train your body, and is not like the you must, you must work until you you drip a lot of sweat in order to feel good, is a kind of like exercise that you do that


the instructor will say, you must listen to your body, and like focus on your breath be mindful of your environment it feels like a very, like a more like a endurance, like it's it's not easy but you will enjoy the process, at the end


and you go home feeling very happy, the the very hard core one you also go home feeling good lah but you like you feel damn shag lor and I tend to, I might tend to over eat when I work too much cause I want to, I want to , I want to <mandarin>靠赏:kao shang</mandarin> your myself


then I will eat more but yoga is like I love my body I must eat good stuff, like healthy stuff


gym, rugby also can hit people what, nope, when I see rugby courts I coffeeshop after ten thirty


, okay


really meh uncle still playing uh, but when I saw your sister play with the other kids they are very bad leh they don't even throw the ball to her


(uh huh), they the kids are like competing who can throw the ball higher , like they just look up and wait for the ball to drop down, what's the what's the latest uh skincare product you're using


what is it called, what


oh exfoliating ah is it a face wash, why, what you mean, why


got meh got I can't see any blackhead what, I see, [orh] okay that's blackhead


oh shaver cream, oh you use it as a shaver cream, I give you soap, the blue colour one, it's a cleanse body soap right, it's good for sensitive skin


over dry, after you finish you feel it's very drying is it


oh it's like very because you don't you don't see the foam then you feel it's weird lah, the mist the face mist


the serum right, that time I also give you but you said it's not good so I didn't buy, the serum after the because after the after our facial then you use it then you say you feel quite prickly


remember, it's exactly the same thing, it's the green tea seed serum, exactly the same, because that time, you remember that time there is a pink colour one and a green colour one right the small one it's the same thing it's the travel size one


then I thought like maybe we can use it cause after facial we need to <mandarin>保养:bao yang</mandarin> then I think cause your face was just bare after all the poking and the, and the extracting pimples so it hurts like shit


recently I have been using the Hazalago it was awesome I feel my face was like more supple right now, supple what means like, it feels more, it feels less sullen like, it's more filled with water eh put your leg down


people might, ya, and I I think that I should start moisturising my face more than, I would I would still use my tea tree oil I would use it after I moisturise my face


yes a little bit more over the forehead area, I don't know why I got so many pimple on my forehead leh actually, it could be because I didn't wash my face before I sleep but you do that too right, you don't wash your face before you sleep right


you use water but then there's this one time I just fall asleep without washing, but it's not like I had any makeup on lah, or is it because on that day I use a sunscreen then the sunscreen like is not, not so, is not so friendly no


but oxy-cream I use before it it <mandarin>会让:hui rang</mandarin> it'll let my skin like, like peel off a little bit, it will let my skin #po pi#


cause too dry, for for like huge pimples lor, you use it all over your face ah


[orh] okay, any gaming computers, any gaming computers, that you are loyal to


yes Apple com is the way to go, what's the different between the software and the, interface


yup, you can just press a skip what


I bet you didn't know the full the full usage you know why because once you know how to use a MacBook right, it's so convenient to use you you because you can't see right now that's why so you don't see the beauty of it, yup


Windows is more friendly user friendly


food trend, these days I I'm quite hooked up on eating tempura, at Japanese, it's not trash T for tempura, T for tasty tasty


maybe that's why I got pimple leh maybe that's why, I don't know it's so nice I like it, it's so crunchy and then you just dip it into the shoyu sauce then you just eat and it's like so nice, I cry


that has always been your trend what, is it nice or, it keeps you full lah what else do you see at home, then you just cook yourself lah actually it's damn easy eh


you better go down and buy true it saves a lot of time actually, or you can actually just stock up on


seven eleven, convenience food, I want


what do you see yourself, what do you see yourself, what where do you want to see yourself in three years time or or or (ppb) what do you see yourself in three years time, (uh huh)


okay, your girlfriend, [aww] that's so nice


I need to record that down but I I missed it, alright, no the girlfriend one, that's so nice and then if three years down the road if what if that didn't happen


or like, anything lah like the dance or like the anything, if anything don't goes


what what is it about her, what does she do, why what does


why what does what does it what scares you


like how come, you never ask her what happen, ya


what uh you never ask you never ask some more there must be something what, you shouldn't just keep asking the same question sometimes it just gets, maybe sometimes you're just asking for the sake of asking like


there's no true meaning to it anymore, like you shouldn't just ask for the sake of asking you should ask when you're really concern


no you're not you are just asking, for the sake of asking, hey, you should you should put in you should be more patient with her


what do you see where do you go for holiday


so what do you plan to eat over there


okay, so would you want to like, but so what, my next holiday is at Tioman lah, then I going to go there and, I'm looking forward to the beach


go there and swim and snorkel and see some fishes, but I'm scared that cause I don't speak Malay, then I'm going to have like a communication barrier, so I might download some, eh, need to buy the you're going to buy data over there right


so that we can use Google translate


what what do you mean, so we take the bus, all the way, ya but the bus is all the way it will stop at the gantry at the immigration immigration place right, oh man you should have bought it yesterday


adding, I I always worry that I cannot catch up, with my teacher and like the class pace


cause like most of the time I can understand in class but when I go home, I find myself like, like what the heck is this like where did I learn this, like I learn it but I find it kind of hard to apply


that might happen in sit, but I was just thinking that maybe I should find some time to do what what I want then in sit then I'll really focus on the studies, because you see Jan then she has to like dance, and but I also don't want to just keep studying lah, but my friends that went to the engineering right the the Isabel


she say like because her her class schedule is always nine to six everyday, then it's really very tired then she go home she still have to do the project and all so, she will not be getting into a cca, what could be but I I don't want to like just be stagnant over there lor


and then, you know like you say you three years down the road you still want to be active in dance right so definitely I can't just stop


okay I want to, Jiayou together, it's four thirty three yay I am gonna go eat tempura later


two dollar chicken rice, ya we go eat something at MacPherson, I also don't know or we can go Tai-Seng Tai-Seng ya Tai-Seng eat in Tai-Seng, ya ya we were at Tai-Seng what that's why we can just go to the mrt


I can always eat, a lot, okay


okay hello do we have to introduce ourselves over here, oh okay hi I'm the lady hello is this alright, okay so we are gonna talk about the topics we're gonna go through from the first one


okay sure please introduce yourself, yes, I feel like it is too soft


you gotta be like louder man, yes, okay, (ppb), yes, so let's talk about the topics, I saw the first one was, what school you want your children to be enrolled in


, you can talk about your future children, right like nearest to where you're living


I I think you need to be louder, ya that's good


I think so too I am for myself I think, whichever is nearest or whichever is most convenient would be good, ya and uh no I don't want to be like, those kind of parents who


have to go and help out at the school canteen just to get their children in, people do that, I know I don't think that's a good idea and I don't have time for that


I know you you can't like spike your voice like that, that's gonna hurt the person listening to this


(mmhmm), (mmhmm), uh huh


how how many hours do you think he's spend just doing that, a meeting but does it


must he must he be very involved like must he make decisions


that's so tiring I don't think I would want to do that, you have to go to meetings like after work, I don't think that's what I wanna do I think it's, I'll just I'll just find the most convenient one and then my my kid will be enrolled there and then I can see them


and I don't have to drive them to school, I don't think that the school your child is enrolled in at primary level would


really determine the future and if it does I think it's pretty sad, because personally I wasn't from


actually I was from an elite school I would say that mine is wait, is considered a very very a very very good school yes, yes if you tell somebody who's like, like parent age level and you tell them that like


they will be like oh that's a good school, yeah but I mean it doesn't mean that I did well in a good school and, I just think that the teachers, no that was O level


just so you know but ya I was, in primary school I was like, , in the the the lowest second class


you know that they rank you, so like if you are a for example if you're, your primary level is like five, then there there will be ten classes, and then if you are five one, you'll be, you will be the best of the whole cohort you're in the best class


I don't I don't think so, honestly I have no idea, , I don't know nobody told me


well I was probably at three then, but I was still in express, shut up but I was still in express so that's okay I mean see we we turned not fine it's not like, yeah you know there's not like a lot too much stress


you still got to enjoy your childhood and, you still got to like get your personal development going, I would think that I had enough happiness as a child, to not be


you know so unhappy as an adult, yes that's how I feel, okay let's move on to the next topic, sure


uh what, don't squeak your chair, okay ya, so, what do you want to talk about


I know, social


(mmhmm), (mmhmm), (mmhmm)


(mmhmm)


but I do think that your like the family you are born into plays a huge role, so if for example you're in like, a poorer family and then, you're always hanging out with people from like elite schools who are rich and everything


you might not feel entirely yourself, so maybe there'll be unhappiness, in the future or I don't know like those kind of like, you might not be very balanced inside that's how I feel, but if you are able to


you know, if you're able to like, go into that whole social class despite your family background everything and you're very comfortable, then it's a good thing for you, I just think that there are more cons than pros in this case


!woah! okay, okay sure, uh,


two hours of this let's go, yes okay the next topic exams, what about exams that you want to talk about, already


I don't know, I'm not sure I think lower primary they might not have as many exams, as what we've used to, why


what segregation is not good for society


(mmhmm), so you're suggesting that, examinations help


what, I would think that certain tests might help, but maybe not to that extend maybe not something that is like such, like so grand as like psle


but I do think that it's, it's not very good to, you know group them in that kind of categories when they are young, so cause you know you you might like math when you were younger but maybe when you grow up you like something else you like maybe you like languages more


so if you just, restrict them into learning that that one thing that you think that they are good at, for the rest of their lives, maybe they will learn to hate that when they are older and then they will have to learn something completely new, so I don't think that's a good idea


but I think that the grouping of , them into like streams, it's to it's to teach them it's to like, or make them learn at their own pace, but then we we in Singapore, we don't view it as that way you know we think that they are just dumb and they are hopeless


well I would say that most people would think that it's not very it's not the best thing to, say it to tell other people that your your kid is in like em three, but you know like people in em three are the ones that need the most help so I do think that they should allocate like better teachers


to those group instead of like you know like consistently pressuring em one kids to like do better, they should put more like time resources into em three kids, so that as a whole right you know you obviously like the elite ones


it's a it's a smaller percentage than the overall population right, so if everybody can be, like maybe a grade or or two, higher then as a whole, like that whole like that whole


that that group of kids who grew up, would you know like they would do better in the future then have like better opportunities


(mmhmm)


right, okay well I think that, like, probably, we can't, say balance things out, in like terms of resources


but much rather, do pay more attention to like these groups of people like the the kids in like lower streams, because they are not hopeless which is what, like society now today perceives them to be


so , that's my conclusion, to that, sure go ahead


(mmhmm), yes


(mmhmm), (mmhmm)


that's good I feel like I wanna go into that school now, I feel like, it will be good, okay moving on this next topic, yes, oh okay, boring topics


maybe you want to share with me what ccas you were in


what about primary school, I see, and


why not, , I see, (mmhmm)


that's impressive, I see


okay, okay , and then what else did you


join , (uh huh), and


I won't, we're not allowed


I see, so you only had two, what order were they in


so throughout your four years of secondary school you had four ccas, and it's all a year each, did that help you in your uh O level results


was it a team effort


silver for cca, I think I minus two points


that's disgusting, it was a bad school so nobody really cares


do you have that picture, you don't have that picture, I'm sure my friends cannot find that that picture anymore, why would they have it


great, , so do do you want me to share about my cca, I see well then let's move on


that's okay but I wanna share about my primary school cca first, okay, so when I first entered the school I didn't have any cca because I was clueless as usual, so when I was in


when I was in primary, two or three I think, , I joined Chinese dance, which I don't know why but it just look like the fancy thing to do as a girl so I joined


and I had to get spanks for like, for Chinese dance, (ppb) and I couldn't find that particular spank, shorts thing that they wanted me to get, and I spent I think a couple of months


with my mum, and she finally found the exact brand, of shorts for me to wear, and now until now I don't understand why it had to be like that brand I think I just wanted that brand to fit in, so, ya that was my


and okay so my first performance in Chinese dance I didn't stay there for too long, so my first performance, I was really tall as a kid, so I'm still really tall, no there's no


it's only in plays, well so I had I had a really hard job, of, , you know in Chinese dance, there is this wooden stick thing that has like cloth tied tied at the tip


so when you wave it around it swerves, and that the cloth is like really really long, ya so it's not it's not like a normal kind of wand thing the cloth, is, is longer than me is longer than myself it's like times two my height


ya and I had to wave that around, and I was mind you I was like I was P two I was a kid, and I have to wave that, stupid thing around and it was really really heavy, and I had no muscles then and I still don't


yes of course, (ppb), so I had to wave that and I was because I was tall I was paired I was grouped in like, the tall people section so I was at the back, of the stage and I was waving that thing all all around


ya and it was really tiring so after that first performance I quit, I was like nope I don't want to do this that is not for me, that's right


that's right, what accent don't understand, oh


I see I see, sorry ai, okay we're being, we're being self aware so we can't do that, we don't want the ai to be too self aware


that would be disastrous, exactly and do we want that or do we not, okay well I don't want to be the contributing factor to that so


(ppb), moving on, so when I was, after I quit I didn't have any cca, because obviously I didn't want to stay back after school I just want and go home and nap, (ppb), and then afterwards I realized that maybe I should have a cca


but I don't know what to join, and then I had I, I had a new group of friends, who were equally as lazy as me, and they were like do you want to join the librarian club, and I said yes, yes a hundred million times


because if you're librarian, you get to hang out in the library during recess, that's not the point we're talking about ccas right now, (ppb), so I joined and it was a lot of fun


there was no sun and I loved it and there was air conditioned all the way, so you just had to be there and you get your points, I was like who wouldn't want that, it's incredible, and my friend, was, she was friends with the head librarian which is the like the teacher


in the library, so I got to join as well and, and we all join and we were like pranksters in the library because, we we could enter every single room, but there was this particular room that we cannot enter because it's like


it's for events or something, but every single day, we would hide behind the shelves and when the head librarian was not looking we would just, rush into that room and then we would hide under the table, for I don't know what what good reason the whole room is dark there's like


there's nothing entertaining to do inside but we just loved it and we would just hide there for the rest of the day, and until the head librarian comes after us, yes so that was my cca in primary school


there's a fine if I'm not wrong but we're not, we we don't, we don't chase people for books or chase them for money cause we're kids, I feel that (ppb),


you have to return your books in order to, borrow new ones, that was the only thing that I remember


I don't think so because when I was before I was a librarian I already knew that, (ppb), date you have to return your books before the due date, and if you don't then you don't get, new books, and, I'm not sure if you have to pay a fine but


(ppb), well that was enough, for me to be afraid and for me to return my books on time, (ppb), so I don't think that you should traumatize kids, I think that you know kids do feel do take like, very like small


like tiny little consequences very seriously, so they will amplify it in their own heads, and then they will they will, you know they will just be good citizens


just speak come on what are you gonna say, I did not say threaten kids, I did not say that


I feel like that kind of mentality only exists in older kids, when they know that, you know some some things just don't come back, you get what I mean, but for younger kids in primary school, I don't think that's what they their mentality is


and even so I feel like there would be, that probably they don't get their result slip or probably they they will contact their parents, I feel like there's there's kind of measure there but, I'm not very sure what it was because I wasn't a very good librarian


so do you think that that attributes to how you are today


I would I would agree to that, that is, I don't think that is what I would want to teach my kids


(ppb), I feel that if, if they were to know the consequences and if they were to, if the school were to were to have contacted me I would have done something, I would have taught them the right way, and not to steal books


, (ppb) so did you find it in your house, and then you realized, I see, well okay I would say I would consider that as an honest mistake


but then, then your reaction to, to having the book and having, not, gotten any punishment, that says a lot about you as a person so I think that it's a it's a kid's character that you have to take into account


for whatever punishment that you wanna implement, yes a hundred percent, okay, well that's a good time to move on to the next topic I feel like I really want to get over that that first


that first, segment, I just want to move on to the next one, yes , you can't sing


ya, okay moving on, I


I think that we should move on to the food one because I'm losing interest in all of this I feel like we've covered, the base of all of these already, and we kinda know where we stand on that, I would really much rather talk about food


that is not exciting I would wanna talk about food, , do not teach the ai this, you should teach the ai to respect women


but your comment does not show that, thank you


first of all that's there's no one sole memorable meal, because how can there only be one if in your life there's only one memorable meal, you I wouldn't say that you've led a full life, that's what I would comment you know


I feel that, you should enjoy every single meal, and if it's something that you've been craving for and you, and you've had that meal that should be a memorable meal in my opinion, okay so


question


don't you think that if there was, a male pageant that guys would say the same thing as well, great (ppb) I'm I'm I'm glad we cleared that


so, is that like sexuality or sexism


right


well that's the limitation of the English language, that's how I feel, so, in order to lead a a good life, I would still stand by what I said previously, but if you really wanna know what's my most memorable meal and and there could only be one


it would be the time where I was in Japan, and I woke up at four am, to queue at five am, until like about two pm, to have my meal, and it was like probably a forty five minutes meal or less than that


and I didn't have a lot but it was like Sushi, and he made it and it was awesome and I love the atmosphere of that tiny little shop, and I love and I loved how he served us food, , yes I I loved how he handled the fish


and how he touched it, , it was great, so that's my most memorable meal, so what about you


I see, isn't it isn't it Tekong, you should teach the ai the right way to say Tekong, okay, question to the listeners


oh for me, , new restaurants in Singapore probably not much I I'm not very interested in the, even though Singapore is quite well known for it's, restaurants and like food and everything


but I'm not very interested in Singapore food right now, (ppb), so, yeah exactly because


(ppb), hawker hawker food is something that we grew up in so it's not something that I would wanna try like new places, because I've already had them, and they're ingrain in me and it's part of my soul and my blood, go Singapore


so, having said that I'd wanna try some, like more food and new food elsewhere in other countries, that's what I would wanna do, what about you


, I recently went to Australia so I really wanna try more food in Australia, I really like their avocado, , I think that avocado is, the it's it's something that it's so recent but it's so delicious


I feel like everybody should try it, well I do think that Millennials do find great gems in our, in our time here, so, I would I would recommend everybody to try avocado


and especially Australia ones because they're very generous with their serving, (ppb), so that's what I would do and I also really like that they add olive oil into a lot of their dishes, because, I don't know why but it just makes it so savoury and you can finish everything even though your stomach is not as big


that's how I feel, it's not very exotic but it's not something that you can find readily in Singapore


is that because you are very soft, it's fine she she's giving you the okay, so everything's good, so what about you what would you wanna try


like, , okay but you probably have to travel all the all the way over there to get something that


that's you know made the right way, yes, okay so what other foods would you like to try if it's in Singapore


but what if what if it's something that is, that is new and not really very expensive


would you try salads, but what if it's, it's not pure salad what if it's you know the the new way how they make like like Poke bowl I don't know how to pronounce that


okay that's fine I don't think you're a millennial anyway, moving on to the next topic, moving on to the, right, okay so what's the next topic, about food


do do you want me to answer that first, I don't have a favourite restaurant per say, but I know where to get, nice waffles, and I know where to get like, nice Pasta, I know where to get nice Sushi


so, and likes, in their specific categories I would know where to go but I don't have like a fixed restaurant, I don't think yours would consider would be considered as a restaurant


it's a chain outlet, and it is very instant, and it is from Japan, and it is something that if you had the money you would franchise it


okay so do you wanna reveal what it is, I see please do not sing, so ya I was right Tori Q is what you would love, I know, they do have very good pasta but I would say that the standard is dropping a little


I see, , okay now we're not sponsored okay I feel like we're doing a podcast now


yes we'll never be able to do this without you, (ppb), sustain this podcast and do what we love


, okay okay


moving on to the next question, sacarsm, I don't know or or understanding references would be good for the ai


, I see, , the latest food trend, in Singapore


latest food trend, okay, ah k, okay, ok


so what's the question again, I'm not very sure, to be honest, the last one that I really, am certain of, is that toast thing with the cheese inside


and and you can stretch it but I've never tried it, so, that's the last thing that I know, I don't know any new ones, yes


no it's the one it's the yellow one where they it's the toast you know, okay, but, no that was Pablo, that was cheese tart


oh, well I'm not very interested in cheesy stuff anymore, considering what it has done to my body previously, it's not something that I wanna relieve constantly


so, I would, I wouldn't try it, ah hate them, moving on what about you, ya


but I would wanna know what what would you, think that is a food trend, like in your mind if if if I said food trend what comes to your mind, I would say that that's that's


kind of a a very old trend, , I see, well there's not much to add to that so let's move on


why not, Tekong also not English, you can write that food name in English as well


alright if you say so, I would say it's the porridge, and, the minced pork noodles


what's the difference, well I would go with the more specific one in case any listeners who are international


, they would like to know what meat it is so I would stick to that


thank you, okay so backtracking I said that I don't like cheesy stuff anymore, because of what it's done to me previously


but my comfort food is still the solid mac and cheese, because you just can't go wrong with mac and cheese, and, the next I do love anything that has dairy in it


so , I don't know it just makes me feel good at the moment but then it makes me feel bad afterwards, I don't wanna agree to that because, I feel like if I agree to that then then that that would be a fact and I don't want that to be true


I'm not embarrassed I'm I just feel sad that this is a thing


that, exists in the world, I feel like, (ppb), I'm I'm not really a hundred percent lactose intolerant nor am I a little bit I'm just saying, but I feel that people like your friend, who is and has to take pills in order to live a proper life


I think that that's just a tragedy so, ya, yes, I know


breast milk is not dairy, oh my god, oh, my god, you mean like soy milk


I don't think that's how it works, and your formula milk is also not dairy so


I think they think that you're dumb, okay just move on to the next topic if you will


the fact that it doesn't come from a cow, but, well it's not sold in the market


oh I think that, breast milk doesn't have lactose in them, well we should we should Google it, but in the meantime let's just move on


you're disgusting, somebody is gonna call your phone number just to tell you some some facts, okay


great I hope you're not fifty by then, sure, moving on, oh I'm so sorry my apologies


I feel like you as a podcast interviewer is doing a really good job and I just feel like


I am the guest so I'm sorry if I neglected you, but it's a good it's a good thing I'm complementing you, sure so what's your go to food


I would say that it's Tori Q, and I would like to add that it's probably instant noodles


I think it's, it's the ice cream it's Mister Bean's ice cream


I don't like quail eggs


yes, yes


I feel like in other countries they do have McSpicy as well, I don't think it's it's only for our country, I think that well Malaysia definitely has it


yes yes, but I'm I'm not sure how they prepare it though, really, actually I don't even know if Japan has


McSpicy, how can oh well their tastebuds can't take that, yes, but well


(ppb), I don't eat McSpicy anymore so, it's, it's hard to talk about it I do love McSpicy but, it's just it's, it's a it's a devil it it doesn't agree with my stomach


, no


no the lady said that there are people who, sing and there are people who talk over each other so I'm pretty sure that they listen to this


I would wanna work for the, for them to listen to the entire thing, and they and he listens to this, what if he is listening to this


!wow! you're gonna be disqualified very quickly, moving on to the next question


I just feel like if, I'm dating you and you're gonna die very quickly, with you know I mean I'm not saying that he's a bad driver, I'm just saying that, he has shared with me that he


he sometimes looks down, when he's driving a bike and also when he's riding a bicycle, and, and I mean he has his own bicycle and he has fallen a couple of times, (ppb), more than, average I would say


so, the thing is, yes but then you would ride a motorcycle everyday as well, so considering your the amount of accidents you've been into with just a normal bicycle


I just don't think that you should get a motorbike, and also if I'm dating you I just don't want you to die so early because, what's the point if you're gonna die, you know what I mean and I mean, (ppb), yes you can die at any time you know it's not like I can predict


but you know you're just increasing the chances of you dying so, yeah that's not something that I wanna be involved with


I don't really care about your money but okay, I feel like the, I don't, you have no money, hi Haymond


I know I don't even think that other people enjoy enjoy doing this cause like apparently they sing, they must be so bored then they they resort to singing


I know okay just just move on to the next question, oh I would like a Tesla


well I mean if I were to get a car, I would get, a good one


that's exactly right I would like the Tesla that has the wings, you know, the car door that opens up like a wing, that's what I want, because if you can't drive in style, why drive


yes, we're so disgusting, yes, I've been to not many countries


but they are good enough they are in Asia, so I've been to Malaysia I've been, I've been to Indonesia, you're weird I've been to Japan


, and I've been to Korea I've been Australia, yup that's that's about it, I I like Japan the most


no because, I first of all I don't know where to go there and second of all, I'm not sure how, how exciting the place is or what kinds of things that I can do, I if I travel I don't want to be poor


so, well I just don't know where to go but if I do I would I would go, you gotta be louder


in where, maybe you could pick one and I will share with you, oh uh I've been to Krabi


I'm sorry I mean , where did I go I don't even remember, I know that I've been there


oh my god I'm the dumb girl in the , yes I'm sorry listeners, I messed up


and uh yeah tiny tiny brain uh it's record it's a record, yeah man okay so in Krabi, I was there for four days I was sick for two days in Krabi


because as you know my stomach is not the strongest stomach in the world, so anything that I eat I got to be really careful and you know Thailand's not a very careful place when it comes to food, and yup I stayed in the toilet for two days


but when I was there I went to visit all the island, that was nearby so we went on a tour and it was really fun and the most exciting part was that well you gotta know that, I don't swim and I can't swim and I'm terribly afraid of water okay


so when I was there we were on a boat and we're gonna visit this island, I don't remember what the island name is called because I have a tiny tiny brain, so , so when I was there, I thought it was Phi-Phi island


are you sure you're not supposed to okay but anyway, so, when I was there the tour guide who's really really he's he's a good man I would say he's just, he's so kind and he's so generous and he's so lively I love him so much


and he he when we got to like somewhere near the island you could actually go, get off the boat and go down and swim and the the, sea water is really really clear so you can swim there, and I didn't wanna do it because it's


first of all I'm afraid of water and second of all it's the sea okay, haven't even been into a pool and then I got to go into the sea, no okay that was a no, but he he held my hand and he was so gentle and so kind and so reassuring


he's like he's like I'll bring you don't worry and he put the jacket the life jacket on me, clipped me up and just like pull me down the water and all all the way he held my hand, and I was so happy because I got to enjoy the scenery I got to dip in the water


and I got a very strong man who held my hand, yes it was, yes, I did


preach, preach it girl, yes a hundred percent, I would go back and I will hunt him down and ask him to marry me


I'm kidding, but I would want to go on the same tour as him, like with him as the tour guide, once again, wait what about you you haven't shared yours


where, they they live on opposite ends of the world, the polar bear, uh the North Pole


it's wrong, yes please educate your children


(uh huh), okay now I'm the interviewer all right, okay great so, oh would you go back again no wait what's the most memorable, the country and what did you do


I did not I looked up and then I looked down, I don't know why it can be confused as roll eyes rolling it's it's weird


I see, I see !wow!


(mmhmm) , okay


oh man, yeah, I see


that thanks for sharing that was, that was quite a story, I I particularly like that, you shared this experience with another lady, that that's great, that is so gay


so would you go back again, why


oh I just wanted to add that, I recently learned that India there's this tiny part of India, that is within , Bangladesh, that then the Bangl~ Bangladesh, that area is within India, and then it's also within Bangladesh


and they only recently, resolved, it like in two thousand fifteen


oh but I, I thought it was really interesting that they had that kind of segregation, is it does it happen anywhere else


oh I see


cool, okay so now we'll move on, there's the topic category is shopping, and there's this particular question, that I think you would be very interested in, it's gaming computers slash cameras


slash speakers and headphones, so I would I would generalise them as, technology or tech products, would you wanna share if you have any new tech products in your life recently


I see that's that's quite different from what, what I think you would like, but, I see no issues on that so maybe you wanna share with us


if you have any latest make up or skincare products that you love


liar, , well then let's move on to entertainment since you don't have anything to add to that, because you keep covering the recorder


I don't have holy grails, it's always an, what, the latest make up trends that I've been, more into but not really not really doing or like using these products


is that I love highlighters, and I've recently been watching Jeffery Star, so oh my gosh he is so good and all his products are amazing


I see well okay let me just shed some light because highlighters do that, okay so highlighters are they come in cream or or powder or liquid form, you can get them in any kind of form you like, but, then basically you put them on the cheek bones where like the light hits your face and normally they do it on the


on the nose bridge, it just like a tiny bit in the middle so that it looks like, it looks like you have a very sharp nose, and then like your forehead and stuff, so you know it's it just it just brings out your features more and like


ya it it when you turn your face and when the light hits then you get this like shimmery glow on your cheeks and super pretty, yeah, so ya recently I've been watching Jeffree Star, and he he recently came out with liquid highlighters


which is so so pretty because it's super super pigmented, and you just spread it on your on your cheeks or you just like swatch it on your hands, it's so pretty and like it catches all the light, and there are some highlighters right cause you can choose there're a lot in the market now


there's like a few that it's, more sheer and like kind of like more natural so if you want like the more natural look then you go for those, but if you want something that just like, screens and just like look at me I have highlighter on


and you should get something that is very very pigmented like the Jeffree style ones, so you put it on you you just you just see it it it will never disappear, and then they have like different shades, and they are all like super cute they they name them in like unicorn tears like stuff like that


that's like super super cute, so I love, but okay to be honest females they just love packaging, so like make up wise if the packaging is cute normally even if the product is not good they'll still keep it they'll still get it and keep it


so ya that's that's kind of like the make up trend that I've been into recently, and then previously previously it was liquid lip sticks, and it was like the matte lip sticks that uh think Kylie Jenner, Kylie Jenner kind of like brought into the whole make up industry and then everybody


everybody started producing their own liquid lips even like those drug store brands like Maybelline has their own liquid lips already which is still which is super good not, Maybelline is the the new one the new liquid lips is super super good so you should try it


ya, so those are the ones that I've been into recently, thank you for letting me share this


entail, okay great so I guess you have nothing to add then we should just move on


oh for myself, uh no first of all I don't like to game (ppb)I think I don't usually last through a game, yes but not all the time


so moving on, like if I'm present (ppb) then you shouldn't be gaming, well then you have your own time to do whatever you want then you should do that but if it's a time that you (ppb) you've allocated spending time with like me then no


I guess so if it's necessary, so yeah moving on I don't really like to play games, but I do think that the whole


gaming scene is pretty popular these days like, people are streaming on Twitch and people just, they get entertained just by watching, people other people play games and I thought that that was very interesting, (ppb), so ya and but uh for me myself I don't really like those cause it doesn't keep me entertained for a very long time


I don't really like rpg games but I I do love the Sims, the Sims is my all time favourite game, and because it's so versatile and you can do anything you want in the Sims, ya what do you think about the Sims have you played it


and, why don't you think so, I see, but I feel like the Sims is just the kind of game that you can play and play forever and it will never get old because


you really cause you are the one controlling how the game goes, so if you want the character to do something or if you don't want the character to exist anymore you can just do it it's your call


yeah yes, yes, but also I just like I just like that you can kind of watch how their character grow, and it feels there's some kind of like you know you feel accomplished because you kinda like grew your character


like a plant , what that's a that's a question, oh what okay


oh okay well, as with anything you do if it's not something that is (ppb) well perceived in society as very stable, then you gotta work hard and if I can tell or see that you are working hard then I'm okay with it


well I mean you have to be improving like maybe when you first started out like your ranking is very low (ppb) but maybe within like a short amount of time


you can like get a very high score or you can, you can maybe maintain that or you can maybe (ppb) in , I don't know like maybe your avatar is very well known in that in that, in that whole space


I don't care, then then well then I would I wouldn't say that you know you you should pursue something that's more traditional I would just, I would just let you experiment with it, but also if you're like


if you're like me like twenty eight twenty nine turning thirty years old and you're still you're still like holding out, in like I don't know like in gaming or maybe in like performing but you're not really there already


like at that age you're not there already, then I would suggest that you don't do that and, do something that's more stable, ya because, ya that's how I feel what about you


just answer the question


!wow!


yeah I do, so what if what if it's (ppb) it's their passion and, they're not that good yet obviously they need time to to get there then what would you say to them


I see, I think you'll be a good Asian parent that that's how I feel, yes, she's so so so good, okay so while speaking of fresh off the boat what's the latest movies or tv shows dramas you've been binging on lately


how do you feel, (mmhmm), (mmhmm)


yeah, I think so too, , yeah but I don't think she looks


I don't think that she looks older when she stands beside him, so that would I ya that's not a problem for me, I think she has hit thirty


yeah, nope but okay what did you why did you Google him then


i see, so do you wanna add add anything to that, for the crazy rich asian movie, oh on the movie, I love the movie


I love how how it was paced and I love that I love the whole intention behind it and how they'll they wanna kind of like (ppb) put more Asians into those main leads and kind of give them a voice


and also the fact that it did so well was a very good thing for them and it shows, oh uh and I I I read somewhere that the, the is it the director, yeah the director was offered


uh by Netflix to make this movie, ya but he rejected he turned them down because he wanted like a a major movie production studio to, to do this movie so that you know like it will be more


, it it will be better for the community, yeah like for the Asian Americans, ya so it was done by Warner Brothers right, ya and I thought that that was that was that was a good move because it it was like number one in like blockbuster for like and it beat like some other movies that was


it's like there were like traditionally the kinds that will do well, so yeah I really liked the movie and I like how funny it was and I liked all the all the is it or sorry Cantonese


all the all the little things that they sprinkled inside that if you weren't a Singaporean or if you weren't an Asian you would have never noticed


I have no idea what joy


well I do I think that the you know the people who were making a fuss they are the Asians themselves, and you know it's (ppb) we can't really relate because we're not Asian Americans and when we watch like American blockbuster films we just think that oh it's it's just another good film and you know like we have our own Singaporean films which I I don't know if we're very proud of them


(ppb), but, we we do feel like , we're represented in a sense and we're not like compared to other people because in Singapore you know it's just us and (ppb) we're all Asians like Malay Indians we're all Asians and then (ppb)


and like the movies like for example you know it on channel five we always have like drama series like the recent one like Tanglin, they it shows like all, every single ethnicity in in that whole move in that whole drama sorry


so, I don't think that we can, we we can say that like it's scripted it could be how they really feel because it's been years for them and they are like, they are


they are actors and actresses themselves, so, you know the whole casting process for them would be very difficult and, I do feel that whatever that, whatever they said is really from their heart


you know what I mean, what do you think, I see


no, okay so, well I guess I would share the latest drama shows that I've been watching, so the the recent movie apart from crazy rich asian that I watched that was very memorable would be


uh a quiet place, and it was directed by, John Krasinski, I can't really pronounce his name but yeah it was directed by him who is also an actor and he was he played the role he played a role in the office which was a very very very very good sitcom drama that I've I've been binging on recently as well


the American one I don't think that I can understand the uk version as well, yeah so I've been watching the American one and it's really good and he's he's super good in it super funny


and the in the movie his actual wife Emily Blunt plays like his wife in the movie and she's so good at it, okay and okay speaking of that so I after I watch the movie I went to Google and YouTube all of the interviews of them together and that's like the first question that people ask is


how how is it like, uh were you afraid cause you guys are working together, and they said that oh they they were very nervous when they first started on like filming cause like apparently, John got the script first and then he was reading through it


then afterwards , he was going to cast this other lady who was Emily's friend and then Emily went to read the script and she said that it was so good and he ask him to she ask him to cast her instead and


of course he's he did so because she's such an amazing actress right, and then when on the first day of set they were very nervous but it turns out it work great like both of them were just great together and, she was very he was very receptive to like whatever opinions that he that she had cause she's a mother herself


so in like scenes where they had the children there like she would suggest things and he would just like accept and he was a very great director to her as well, so ya, no it's no, why is it so


but it wasn't because it's his wife he had other actresses that he considered as well and he was gonna hire her already, until the wife read the script


no but I'm just saying that she's confident that she can take up this role and well she did a very good job, I don't think so but


the fact that they are together in real life would add to their chemistry in the movie and I think it shows up well, well if it is then so be it it's not something that's very serious it's one project it's not like he's gonna cast her for every single movie next


yeah so and then I went to I went to actually , watch all of their interviews and and then I went on a huge Jon and Emily binge watch all of their interviews for like


way way way ahead, and she has a new movie coming up it's called Mary Poppins have you watched Mary Poppin, why not, the the original Mary Poppins, really


okay well there's a lot of singing involved so it might not, yeah well I watched Mary Poppins when I was younger I thought it was such a classic movie and yeah and we learn we learn the song in like music class


in like primary school, and yeah that was that was how I first like learn about it cause my family wouldn't, would probably not let me watch, that movie if not for school


I'll probably watch some Chinese cartoon, yeah they are good I'm not saying that they're bad I'm just saying that they're not English, what what cartoons did you watch when you were younger


oh okay, so you didn't have like cable at home right, yeah I thought so, neither did I


you watched that


you watched it when you were a teenager, oh okay how was it, is it a real life , oh I don't think I've seen it though


but I did collect their magazines you know they used to have magazines, Sabrina the teenage witch they had like magazines and and in every like , in every issue they would give you a free make up


item and then so the very first one you get a a full make up box and then subsequently you get like different make up that you can add to the box, yeah and and the box itself came with a tray


and the tray you know they have like they had like slots in them, so you knew exactly what they were, so that if it's circle then you know it's like a it's for like an eyeshadow so you can kind of look out for that, and then when it's, when it's all all when you've collected them all then you just fill up all the all the spaces in the box


yeah, I had like I had gloss I had eye shadow I had like body glitter and like that the glitter gel and stuff, yeah I had them all


well it's just one thing I still didn't have cable and didn't watch the show, I did I watched Hi Five when I was younger, yes I loved Hi Five


I loved Charlie, she's the she's the lady that does nothing, in the show, so like there's five of them right so there's Timothy Nathan Charlie Kathleen and I think it's Kaely or something


I can't remember but yeah so oh no uh, is it Kathleen or Katherine I can't remember ya so, they, they would each have their own segment in the show and they had their own what do you call those like a like a room like a a a studio or like a space


so it's all decorated according to their own character, so like Kathleen the the Asian looking one, she she had she had, huh not sure


but she had Jup-Jup you know, what Jup Jup is that sorry the purple like, puppet thing that hides in the in the walls, so everytime Kathleen leaves something on the table Jup Jup would come out and like like take the he would take the item and then she will not be able to find it


but it was just funny cause Kathleen would be like where is it did you see it blah blah blah so there's like interactions with like the audience, ya


I'm hearing an alarm but anyway so, then then afterwards oh then , Tim was like more of the musical guy so he had a lot of like like music notes that were cut in like cardboard and stuck around the whole set and then he had like a lot of music instruments


and , Nathan was more of like the athletic guy so he would do like all the like jumps hula-hoops and what what not so, then Charlie Charlie would come out and she would do whatever that the previous person did


so like for example if Tim was singing a song and like and there's always like a story to it then she would be like she'll continue her story, the the story that Tim started during her segment, do you understand


yeah so there's like, but she had she contributed nothing to the show she was just like a, like just some other girl that was there and like sometimes she would visit other people's set so that like


she had things to do , like her own set right only had one hula-hoop swing that she swings from and everything else is empty so she had nothing, I think that says a lot about her character in the show


(ppb) it's just it's just nothing, I just like her cause she was pretty, ya, that was just as simple as that


okay are you gonna sneeze, this thing is hurting my ear


yeah sure if you have something you can you wanna share


there's a lot of, disturbing scenes as well


we should watch it tonight, I would want to watch it, yes


oh you're asking me, wouldn't you like to answer that first


that's a lot of teaching, (ppb) !wow! it has evolved entirely


she thinks that, no but I would like to share my hobbies with you, so what I what I like to do in my free time is to relax


so then it leads to the next question what do you like to do to relax, and I like to watch dramas and films, but, what I love to do and if I could I would do all the time, would be napping


napping is my life and my soul, I love napping, and I would I would die for napping well technically if I never stop napping I would die, but I just love napping so much it's like my passion if there's a club that's like napping for all (ppb) I will join it and I will I will just spread the word


I will just spread it all over the world, so ya like why why why do I like napping so much, it's because it's so relaxing and you just feel like you're you don't exist cause existing is hard and I don't like existing


I do not like existing, so yeah what do I do every weekend, I do what I love most which is napping (ppb) and also I try to learn new things like how to swim


but it doesn't end well because I'm terrified of water (ppb) and and there's there's I mean every single time that I enter the water I just feel like, there's a possibility that I would drown (ppb) even though logically I would never drown because I'm a very tall person


so, there's there was this one time, where, where I switched, where I switched, goggles, cause I'm blind, I'm blind so I I bought like , a pair of goggles that


would help me see better, and then I realised that I can see the bottom of the swimming pool (ppb) which was terrifying for me, because I've never been able to see it, so I had no depth perception


and then suddenly I had it, and I almost had like a panic attack in the middle of the swimming pool, but I pull myself together, , so ya, so that's my experience and, well if you want to know my progress, I can swim


with a float, and that's all I wanna say, so, moving on, what part of your hobby interests or engages you, the fact that I don't exist, is very engaging


no when I'm napping, ya, so, moving on to what you asked me, how I feel about running and you running a marathon


first of all I just wanna make it clear that I hate running, I don't understand why, why anybody would wanna do that, , but the thing is like just a few years ago I did run like


, quite, I think I ran like, like, two or three times per week, and, and, I, and like how I motivated myself to run was like okay back then I still hated running but I didn't hate it as much okay


so how I motivated myself was like every single time when I was running right (ppb) I would like, I would see like old people with like a walking stick or like people in wheelchairs, and then I would tell myself like, you can run


and that's a privilege, and you should just, you should make use of that, what if one day you're in a wheelchair and you can never ever run again, (ppb) how sad is that so if you still can run you should just run, so that's how I did it okay


and then like fast forwards, like till now, I just can't, like I just I run, and then I think about like people in wheelchairs, and then I think, so what, like so what if I can't run anymore


will I be sad probably not, I'll probably miss walking but I don't really think I'll miss running, so I can't motivate myself anymore you know I just feel like I've had enough, and that's like and then I have another like, experience okay


so it was with like like eating, beansprout, when I was younger I never like, really hated beansprouts okay like I always I always ate it but I never like the taste of it so I would always eat beansprouts


in like soups and like in like noodles and stuff (ppb) until like one day, I was eating a bowl of noodles and I it just like the beansprout taste was just so overwhelming, and then I was I was, I mean I wasn't a teenager anymore


so I was I just, I just told myself you know I've had enough like enough is enough you know I've tried so many years, I hate beansprouts, I've tried liking it for so many years, what's the point let's just, this just ends here


so I just stopped eating beansprout and I will just not eat foods that have beansprouts in them, ya, I mean (ppb), you you really only live once and you don't live for a very long time so, just do what you love


I don't love drugs so, I can't answer that


then so be it I will just, make it clear that, if he's taking drugs, it's never ending, all his money will will have to be spend there but if it's his hobby like me and napping if it's something that he really loves (ppb) then he has to like


you know understand that it's not it's probably not gonna be a very long time, that he'll be on earth, so , ya if he understands that I don't think that's a problem


I don't, I try to run sometimes occasionally but, that's all I do it's very minimal effort, what about you


why can't you say that, I see


but you're not good, with leg exercises, okay noted


I do not enjoy exercising, but I do like to do leg exercises, I feel like most exercises, are like, they just have leg exercises involved, so like cardio, you you just have to work your legs you can't just like miss it


but I'm very bad with arm exercises, and I have like bird arms I would say just tiny twig arms, I hate birds, that's an interesting question


do you like birds, because I hate my arms,


well I do have enough self respect, I think you're you're (ppb) you're moving into the don'ts over here


so ya well okay speaking of birds (ppb) I would like to share kind of like my experiences with birds, first of all I hate birds I don't not like them I hate them


there is a difference okay, when I look at birds all I think about are bad things, not not bad things that, I wanna do to them but bad things that I wish would happen to them, okay, so the species of birds that I hate the most are pigeons


because, they are like cockroaches you just can't eliminate them from your environment, and they just they just keep surviving, even though that might be a good trait in humans, it's not so much in birds


and they are very dumb so whenever you walk past them right they just can't react like how you know those smaller birds with yellow beak and like yellow feet, they just kind of like hop away


no crows have black beaks oh my gosh, !ugh! you are very bad with your knowledge on birds, well yeah so it's the smaller kind that is black it looks like a crow but it has yellow beak and yellow feet okay


so they will just like like casually hop away and they don't scare you like that they just hop away (ppb) but like pigeons just over react you know when you are like close to them (ppb) they will just flap your wings (ppb) they'll just no they'll flap their wings and then they'll just like, they will just fly all over you


like they just can't decide on one direction that they want to go into they'll just flap, all around, and then you can't move forward you can't like continue walking because you need to wait for them to decide and I just hate that trait about them


you know, and then also they're so dirty they eat everything, and like they have so many germs, under their wings every time they fly over you you just can't help but think that they're spreading germs all over you, and


and finally, their eyes are so disgusting and like, if you have time right just go and find one pigeon any pigeon and just really really look at them


and you'll realized that they are the most hideous thing on earth, the way their like facial features are made the way their feathers are the the colour of it the eyes especially the eyes, so so so ugly


just watch them okay just like just pigeon watch for for like for like five minutes and you will understand how I feel


well you know what unsubscribe if you like cause if you're a bird lover I can't, I don't want you to be in my circle, anyway the fear of birds is called ornithophobia


so I have that, what do you mean how do I feel about that


well, I feel that somebody, I feel that maybe it was just me in my past life, and I just watched birds, I just said yes that's how you want I wanna describe people who are dumb


oh to be honest I can't remember but I've probably have been from like school outings and such, so, oh actually I think I have been


cause I do remember like they had eagles and they were like their feet, were tied to the bar, the bar thing that they stand on, ya ya I've been


I do like owls, no but, if they are, caged, and if I'm not in the cage I'm fine, do I have to go into their cage


it's not like a huge cage where they fly inside right, then no, I don't I do not wanna go there, I feel sad for them, but also I understand sometimes that they have to be caged sometimes zoos do keep animals to protect them


even though that doesn't sound like like, right, but it's true it happens and (ppb) sometimes the animals can't be released into the wild and (ppb) like, then there's no where else for them to go so the best place is the zoo and sometimes if the cages are small


it's sad, but maybe they just don't have enough funds for the animals, so you know listeners you should support zoos and you should go to every zoo that you can (ppb) and you should help them


ya, (mmhmm)


I know you got a little bit emotional there didn't you, well ya I'm a very, yeah I'm a very passionate when it comes to animals


you know I actually had I do have a friend and he doesn't really like dogs, and I just told him that, you're not a good person , I just told him I don't think you're a very good person he said why


but he goes to church and I was like, oh okay well he's he's very passionate and kind but when it comes to animals he's just not not the best person, so


I asked him why didn't he did he not like dogs and he said he doesn't not like dogs he just doesn't like them, that's a difference apparently, he doesn't really like animals


ya, what why what about monkeys, well I personally don't like monkeys, because they are they are quite scary in my opinion and they are and they'll


those monkeys that are not not afraid of humans will just come too close to you too close, I don't like that, yes I have


no I haven't, we haven't, we have not, no, no, the one that needs to needs you need to pay to go up


oh I thought you meant the one at the, the uh Bayfront Gardens by the Bay


okay yes I have been, well no because, I was I didn't bring any food first of all, I don't wanna be a target


it was nice but it's pretty scary cause I realized that I have a fear of heights and it's getting worse, so yeah, do what with, uh uh my partner


ya it was enjoyable for me, I don't know how he feels maybe you should just ask him


what do you mean, the shoe, oh you mean you were the one who went with me


we have we have like three minutes left


in front of an audience you don't have an audience, it's just me, ya,


this what this all is about, lecturing is not about role playing just so you know


our kids, I see, okay, no, can't imagine


listening to this, I hope they don't they can't identify us


!ew!, ya that explains how you're not a millennial, my name is Emily


when, I don't want to disclose that because I'm female and like you know like society and stuff like no no women don't wanna disclose their age, yup


ya, so I'm not gonna do that, looks like okay I'll read this, hey, John is such a charismatic guy I love listening to him he and Emily's podcast is what I listen to every single day how do you feel about that


really, uh is this the end already, oh okay that's great okay well just gotta fill in like a few more seconds, oh okay !yay!


hello


you need to let me introduce myself first , okay mine seems too soft I think I need to speak a little louder, is mine too soft, yeah maybe it's too soft, oh is that the amplifier


okay does this work now, seems to be too soft too, oh oh okay so I have to raise my voice a bit eh, okay, sure, K I think we can begin so uh


I don't have a child yet, but if I had a child I would want to enroll, him or her in the nearest possible school


yeah I'm I'm not very keen on the whole elitist, mindset I, okay, is this good enough, okay, I think I'm a neighbourhood school kind of guy


yeah you can save on like transportation cost


yeah I know like my colleague Eric, so he basically volunteers at the Grassroots


okay, okay I'm sorry yeah so so back to my story yeah so so my colleague, he volunteered at the Grassroot so he will have to clock in a number of years first before they consider you as a, actual member


and only when you are a actual member then you will gain, some kind of privilege when enrolling your son or daughter into a primary school, assuming that you're not alumni or living close by


I don't know but I asked him about it before and he was he told me that, he has to attend like at least a meeting every two weeks or so, yeah


yeah you have to make decisions depending on your on your role, like, I assume there are like different tiers of members, so if you are like, you just want to be in more casual role you can volunteer and


just help out as a usher or whatsoever, but of course you can volunteer at a different level where you are in a decision making committee or something like that


yeah it's sometimes during the weekends as well


but don't you think that, if it, ensures that your child will have a bright future, ahead of him, don't you think that it is worth it


but a lot of Singaporeans subscribe to that notion so, why did you not think that way, really


really, okay , okay


won't you like the, weren't you like the top ten in the psle or something school, nice


so were you in em three or something , so you were em two I guess, why we quite obvious after primary three you have


the streaming exercise then they place you to em one em two, or em three, maybe that's why they didn't tell you


so did you really think you had a lot of personal development, I see


no I want to play the devils advocate, I think that you should send the kid to a good school because, (ppb) at a good primary school you can have eh wait are we not are we allowed talk about this


I almost went into politics, yeah so I was


thinking, you send your child to a good school, in our country there are certain, there are certain programs which allow you to accelerate, your career path in the future


right, well so if you come from a good primary school some people might subscribe there's this thing called uh, what is it called, is it called social, wait ah I'm I'm trying to recall it's like uh


it it's something like is is not really social mobility but is something like it, is like your social class where you mix around with, so if you have like a, if you have friends or like


peers that belong to a certain, tier in society, the the whole theory subscribes that like even if you're not up to par, eventually you will climb up, but it's just a just a whole averaging, notion thing like is just about averaging so if you mix around with


are people who are very academically inclined or musically inclined, you might, or there's a higher chance of you, achieving more in that particular field in the future I I guess that is the, the whole, side of why so many parents


advocate, going to a elite school


let's move on, it's been awhile, what timing, oh we just, is it just like seven minutes or so, well let's move on to exams


so what do you think wait did they just scrape the psle recently or something or was or is it still there


actually I thought the whole scraping of psle was a bad idea, some kind of test to segregate people


hey hey hey , you might the I guess the notion is like if you were to put someone that is maybe like more artistically inclined but uh


less academically inclined you put him in a environment where, everyone else is academically inclined he or she might not feel so so at place


I I think the thing is we shouldn't like we can do like exams to, to place people in different like, uh areas but maybe not like em one em two em three that kind or even express normal acad, or normal technical I feel that that has a negative like connotation like it just shows like


at a glance people will just think oh special stream or less stress, stream are like at a higher tier rather maybe we should, group them into different tiers, like it it's just a very generic thing like maybe the sciences or maybe uh, the the math related topics like accounting or statistics or what not and then you have your more holistic stuff


do we


I guess you are you are describing more of a society that's where like egalitarian in the, as a whole, but if if you think about it, like, in not just our country but a lot of countries where okay, I agree with you that like the whole streaming thing needs to be


rework because I also don't agree with it I think the whole labeling of, em one two three, special express and what not it it's just, is just very negative like what you said, but we said about uh allocating more resources into like em three


so what about if we have a society where, teaching, uh assistance or teachers, or, resources allocated to, education as a whole is limited, so if we have such a society and we have to allocate


we have to steal resources from uh, maybe, educating the, the higher streams, and you reallocate to the lower streams, I mean at the end of the day you would balance things out, but is it really for the good of the country


right so it's a whole supply and demand kind of thing, you can balance out everything, you can either, you can spell out your risk across like your all your different uh investment portfolio, or, you can, invest in the ones where you know


base on your, very subjective, rationale, that this group of people will, perform better, so I guess that's why, people they might, invest more into the whole


the kids that are perceived as smarter, because at the end of the day these are the people that might, lead the country or might, like, cause some call revolutionary change, in the world, whereas, to them I think


if you were to invest more resources, from uh into the lower streams, and you treat it as a zero sum game, so if you invest more resources into the lower stream it means you are robbing it from somewhere, if you're robbing it from top or from the middle


you are also, you in a way you might be depriving, their full potential


but I want to continue , okay I so I agree with you about what Singaporean society, things uh and and it's true that we do think like this but I do think that uh, people or organizations they are uh also putting in more effort into


students from lower streams like you know you have schools like the Northlight primary school thing, so it has a I think it has a very good, teacher to student ratio it's probably like once one teacher to twenty students or something which is like, unheard of in my secondary school


so is is a very good teacher to student ratio so instead of, forcing them to go through the whole academic route, they, they teach them more stuff holistic stuff like maybe , technical stuff, like so you know how to repair circuits and stuff in in a way it's a precursor to technical education


in a ite or whatnot, but you also still like try to force them to, learn like basic like math, things that would get you through in life, like things that you actually use like in life as so you don't really need to learn like calculus or what not


did things they don't really try to teach things like this but they try to, at least instill in you that you need to learn, your basic languages, learn how to convert like currencies and learn how to measure like a , how much volume is there in a beaker and et cetera


how did you calculate the amount of change so I think that, the whole education, thing it it's actually quite robust right now


well next topic is cca, that is my most hated part of my primary school and my secondary school


so I, I had a lot of ccas when I was in, secondary school I guess you could attribute it to my fickle mindset, I was in badminton when I was in primary school hence I knew how to play badminton and hence I could teach you how to play badminton


ya and so but that was my sole cca in primary school and I was not a fan of it, because I was not very good at it


oh my my first cca in my secondary school was volleyball, ya it was quite physically intensive and I grew a lot because I jump a lot, so every month I grew one cm


yeah so I stayed in there for half a year and for within half a year I grew six cm so that's great, but then I got sick of it because they wanted us to it was during the June holidays and they told us that, you have to come back almost everyday for training


because my my in my secondary school the volleyball team is like, is the best in Singapore, so they train really crazily, and I was like, I'm not subscribing to this , I have to use a better word for it


and so I decided, I'm not gonna like continue this whole volleyball thing anymore because I do not want to spend so much of my free time in it, so I quit


my next one was quite geeky it was, it was call the computer I computer club, or it was called the it club, but but here's the funny thing about it because my secondary school is Saint Hilda's right, so if you, to put Saint Hilda's it club together


and you try to abbreviate it, what did you get, ya but you, you get the point of it so that was quite funny so initially when I first join it was called the it club, and then someone realise


what it sounded like when you try to abbreviate it, and so it became computer club, eh wait I think that was my last cca I'm sorry, I got the whole order mixed up it's been too many years


no no no I had four, first was volleyball, the second was, chest club I remember chest, ya so I played chess for awhile


but I got bored again , and then I move on to Boys' Brigade, which I got bored again after a year, and then finally I moved on to, the it club which eventually became the computer club


or shorter, I actually got, one point minus off from my O-level so it was it was quite good, oh but, my teacher was pretty nice, like he, he send me


to a robotic's competition which I actually didn't do anything (ppb), but he just send me there just so I could clock the whole, attendance and by , yeah it was a team effort but I was just lazying around


I was not a very good, cca student as you can tell, I had zero commitment to any ccas, so basically my teacher sent me to, to it, and because of it I have the minimum


criteria to what's it what's it silver, yeah I mean if you get a silver you get minus one point right and then if you get something like gold then you get minus like, two points or so but yup


but I didn't need it anyway, says the person who was like top four for O-levels, in her secondary school, but still, I'm gonna take that picture and I'm gonna tell that to your kids next time


I can find it, I can ask your friends for it, I will find it


no, okay I want you to share about your cca which you got two points over but yet, you had some gaps in your knowledge which I had to teach you


and you refuse to credit me for it


were you the three, are you sure, okay


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