and then ya and then they had to get married because of that, I was just like, they didn't even wanna listen to the, explanation you know I was just, what kind of movie is this, so ya I was so pissed at watching that movie, then basically I learn from all Malay telemovies that guys are dogs, and guys are bad people


cause that's what every telemovie tells you the guy, yes it's like guys are bad and then the girls are always the victim, I don't know why Malay telemovies are this way except for Pascal I think Pascal was a good movie, I haven't watched it though, ya ya the the I heard it was very good right I haven't watched it


ya you have to watch it online to, there's a gang tube I guess, I I don't know my mum ah my mum my mum has the set up box the the the Mio I think sometime will have the that one what the Pascal I think


but ya lah like you say lor if you miss it at the cinema you have to either wait for the CD to come out, or gang tube I guess but I haven't even streamed any, I think so yes I think so yes


eh my mum also has it yes yes yes


oh so you have two boxes in a sense, , ah why


no it won't it won't the android my mom has android box and mio installed in one tv, can, ya be because you can just change your channel on the remote what the remote got the HD one HD two


no no you can have both my mum does that so we watch on Mio we watch things like the, the Malay like your Astro-Ria Astro-Prima your Gegar-Vaganza all that then on the Android box she watch her Malay Telemovie episodes lah


, so yeah it's a good, yes yes you should it's easier to screen your telemovies and all


(mmhmm), (mmhmm)


I I think it'a a similar show but different show cause their storylines all the same yeah the stroryline is all the same


oh-my-god, oh-my-god what what kind of I don't understand the morals that they are trying to teach you know through these movie like what are you trying to teach


so annoying no then there are titles like uh, yeah it's like a show you want to watch for fun okay


, right yes (ugh), yes yes yes yes yes yes yes


yes yes yes like an angel religious all that yes, (ugh) then the guy will be like some badass guy


but she fell in love with the girl, I tell you the story, oh-my-god


oh-my-gosh always always like this you know the story, !aiya!


there the story all like that, the girlfriend, yes and then fall in love with the other girl


sounds so familiar is like some funny comedy story right is it


ah, oh-my-God I think they were trying to do something like twilight


but I guess the Malay community will not be ready for such, true that, yeah correct, you just need a great actor in the move


ah,


oh okay, I he say no LGBT but it's okay lah it's just it's just story right,


oh no


(uh huh), oh so it's a very complicated like seven person story kind of thing lah


ah yeah, ah, oh


the Batak girl, (uh huh), oh-my-god that is such a weird movie


ah oh, (uh huh)


(uh huh), ah


ah yeah


and she died


oh shit, oh-my-God, and then just haunted them, oh-my-God so that


oh-my-god, so the leader didn't know she died, ah yeah


so the two of them still died the leader and the,


, oh-my-god


are you !wow!


ah, (mmhmm)


oh, oh that's why


oh, yeah lah, oh-my-gosh, oh, (mmhmm)


yeah


oh


(uh huh)


talisman lah (uh huh), , are you serious


so he's just stuck there, (uh huh)


oh !wow!


then


collapsed oh-my-god, (uh huh)


oh-my-god , ah


(uh huh), !wow!


oh !wow!, so everyone just died oh-my-God I hate this kind of movie it's like, okay that's kinda no ending right now, so like everyone just died


oh yes usually stories got Islamic element, oh just


oh, horror movies yeah like Munafik especially you can see, oh yes yes yes yes, correct correct


, , deviate lah from the common stuff


I don't think is as great as Munafik from the looks from the sound of it,


so what do we do, yeah


yes, I I will but I really like the first one the first one was so good is like, you watch the one the first time then after that he then you realise the child actually died already then you kind of rewatch the whole movie to see


oh, cause I know it's something about him killing the mom or something right, or something yeah I heard, ah yes yes


oh the girl also died right, is it ah, ah


oh the the the oh ya ya ya ya, tribe, the oh okay,


oh, oh-my-god, oh that is yeah


oh yeah yeah I heard I heard about my friend from my friend this one ah it's sp (ugh)


oh, oh, what


oh god yeah, but other this movie had a lot of death right that a lot of people dying in the movie


, ah


!wow!, dude should we how do we, ah there


yes ya so I uh was telling you my name is Harif, ya so okay lah we can start with the game


, I do I do, ya, the, ya I can see what you have over there it's, seems the same as mine also yeah


yeah, mine, mine has the same design but the words are different mine says place your bags so that's one difference lah, okay so we got the first one, then next to it, uh


uh we see health shop right we see the ya ya mine is also health shop, and uh beneath health shop there is a sign mine says herbal pills, okay


okay, okay the boy in my picture does not have a Teddy Bear, so that's a difference


ya, (mmhmm), (mmhmm), mine has two two pairs of shoes


at the bottom, yeah, it says designer fashion, uh designer fashion also lah, yeah, and , uh in the display there are there are two there are I mean there are two


ya mannequins ya two garments ah so there's ya I have what you have over there and there's another one at there's another additional one, ya, then


same same, same, what does the sign say, mine says uh Bill-Gate's secrets, ya


, (mmhmm), firstly late night shop mine says shop late Wednesday, and there's a sign on the pole which says petrol which you don't have


and next to it, it's a new stand ya, recess, mine says sell your story to us


five six seven eight eight ah, we've spotted eight, you have nine, oh ya nine ya you're right, ya so


I have to, so there's a tenth one, dogs the same uh okay so, my dog is sniffing the ground, oh that's a okay another one


so lastly we have a this another we have a pole with another sign right, ya, uh mine has no words, ya, two of it yeah cool


got it, easier than I thought, okay, , okay okay, so the first one says uh, collectors edition, what do you collect as a hobby when you were growing up


I collected stamps, many many many many years ago, ya and I collected coins from, different countries


but I I had limited collections, I I got bored, yeah, I just kept them in a small like plastic container I didn't keep them in an album


think it was all new stamps ah given by, relatives and friends when I was a kid uh uh eh wait relatives and my parents ah when I was a small kid lah when when I was like seven or eight, ya, what about you, what kind of stickers Hello-Kitty


okay, so you still have the book, so you throw it up, oh, okay


but uh ya lah I mean, uh would you would you start a new collections at this age, I think one thing worth collecting is recipes


if you like to cook, ya not your mum you, you should, I mean your mum won't cook what you might like all the time right ya I mean ya what do you like what kind of food do you like


a lot of things I can't find in the, week eight ya ya because the thing is uh there are millions of recipes out there some of the best recipes are actually made, out of ya just made random not randomly lah made by trial and error for a long process which may take years you know


and a lot of these people who make those recipes they they might not publish, ya some of them sell recipes some of them like you know pass recipes to other people out of goodwill right, ya and, possibly lah ya like uh where do you live


which part of Bedok, Bedok North okay in Bedok South, there's a hawker center at block, fifty eight, ya Bedok South road there was a Mee-Rebus store there


it was called Selara-Kita so that Mee-Rebus store, to me was the best Mee-Rebus store, in the world, ya, so that store only sold Mee-Rebus, and that store, like cannot like it it it rent for about thirty years before it close because the the store


uh stall owners were too old to carry on I mean they they they were still healthy but then I guess they they have enough to retire apparently they say that the people sometimes they were interviewed, by journalist and the paper apparently they said they just wanted to like you know hop onto a yacht and sail around the world as a retirement plan


ya so their children had no interest in the business but their recipe was very intricate, you talking about Mee-Rebus a lot of people sell Mee-Rebus they use three types of like you know shrimps and all that in their, gravy you know so it's really cool and nobody knows what the recipe is


nobody expected them to close one day they just suddenly told everybody Sayonara we are going off, exactly, uh I don't know who uh I don't know I want to go and look for the family members I don't know I mean I mean it's almost impossible lah ya


ya that's the thing lah so it's kind of a waste you see, ya and these are not recipes handed down lah by by our family members there are people ya, who probably took years perfecting that recipe


probably not lah, but the thing is like it's quite surprising that they didn't sell the shop to another person who wanted to do the same thing, you get what I mean so the thing is apparently they sold the shop to another, person who sold something else


that Briyani bro, but it's quite unusual If I were, them I would have like uh sold the shop along with the recipe to somebody for good money because that person who takes over the shop is guaranteed


to make decent income lah because there's like you know there's already catchment crowd there's already a lot of regular clientele, but everybody has a prize as they say you don't think so


but did you believe that knowledge is meant to be shared


sentimental value, okay, you think that's a bit selfish


but you can't cook for your whole world can't cook for everyone you know even all your friends is going to be yeah tiring


but does it matter


but can't you explain that is not my is probably is just my recipe is that person who's not following the instructions, they believe what they taste so the thing is you see I am sure people when they, taste your cooking and compared it against that person's cooking then they know is not the recipes


the person who carries out, yeah, so what you can do probably is you can have your own, YouTube video featuring how you actually, cook


, yeah I get that's what, yeah, what are what are the, what hobbies did I see people do I see people play football


anything I do my favourite hobby is eating, is that your favourite hobby, I told you about Mee-Rebus, I have like maybe


I don't know one million and, ten thousand dishes, I don't have one lah I had yeah I like, Thai I like Turkish food I like, Malay food Indonesian food Indian food


yeah Italian food comfort foods, okay my comfort food is, actually quite simple like it's it's like Mee-Goreng but they use pasta instead of noodle so it's called macaroni Goreng ya


what kind, okay


ya lah it's a occasional thing lah, so are you talking about McDonald's and KFC, it's western also where do you draw the line that's the thing


love talking about food, what two hours, Italian, you don't seem to be a big fan of spice


okay, okay, but the, don't you okay I I read the papers


maybe ten years ago lah not that, food critics think that adding too much chilly into a western dish, dilutes its flavour and remove its authenticity ya I mean over shadows it's a fan authenticity


ya so what do you think, right


the korean thing eh oh, the the Ramyeon thing, but you like Chilli-Padi Chilli-Padi is spicier right


now okay not hardcore lah, oh okay, but if you accidentally swallow it you won't cry lah, then why put the Chilli-Padi just add like normal chilli lah


buy right NTU C, that's cheap what are are are you uh do do you you you said that you in NIE


so you you get paid for the first few years is it, so you in your final year so you don't get paid lah so you do you work part-time, okay which hall


ya, okay okay so, oh hor is close to NIE lah, quite close to NIE, ya ya ya


you wanna guess, how old do you think I am, okay be honest be honest, okay okay, okay I'm buying you also spaghetti


I'm thirty three, ya I'm ancient compared to you, ya eh wait oh you you went to NTU before NIE are you


which JC, yeah, okay, oh they call it an S now so there's A B C D and then


okay, it looks better than you lah


ya ya, okay, okay you repeated your A's, so what do you do what what's your combi


what did you do maths why didn't you do something else, no it's no it's tedious lah I mean I did maths also secondary maths is super easy


JC maths, , whole different story ya, I mean you everything is of course, I guess you get better with practice lah but it requires a lot of practice lah you gonna be to some extent ya ya


I get what you mean ya, I did, Bio Chem Physics and maths I drop Bio, ya ya ya then my time, because I'm ancient during my time


ya we didn't have H one and H two we just have A-level subjects and O-level subjects, ya so, so it was considered all H two lah so the only H one were I only had one H one GP


I didn't do S papers, that you do S papers, oh during my time we had like those who did very well, like in year one qualified to do special papers so you do additional exams, you go for additional classes and you do additional exams they remove the system I I I quite detached from the


I know but, perhaps some people uh maybe not ah I don't know but if the top I was in uh Temasek ya, but Temasek right now uh ranking wise is not that great isn't it


right, why didn't you go to poly, where where did you go in, oh #Bedok#-North lah okay


that's what a lot of people said but you can always switch what I mean you so to speak drop out but who cares, you don't have NS we wasted two years of our lives doing NS


ya, but when should start working you want to turn back time ah, how do you know you still studying


okay, (uh huh), oh so you after A-levels, then


so you did a diploma, !wah! good, oh contract is it contract, okay, to teach what


okay, okay, okay, nobody observe you


that was better what


you have a drink, !wah! you beat the system you didn't have to do A-levels ah


you did you do well in Malay-Lit and Econs, !wah! so you you actually did put in effort because you got an A and a C


I got what you mean it happened I got a D for maths, ya wasn't a grade but I was a science student I don't know lah some things happen lah I mean some, I I you know that's the thing sometimes you you uh I mean life ah life's kind of weird that way


I mean I didn't put in that much effort but I remember I as teaching a friend of mine who got, O I think we both we both got O during the prelims, uh okay during my time it was A C A B C D I think O and F I think it was just that


ya ya ya, pretty much so so the thing is I taught him, after after he both got O I taught him, and he got an A and I got a D, kind of weird isn't it, ya


I don't know so well the thing about maths is like you know I give tuition also what do you teach Malay only only Malay why don't you teach like econs


but there not messages to write where, so you can teach it what, you get good money teaching the other subjects


who cares, nobody cares, , well a lot of people charge high fees especially for Malay and uh how much do you charge


that's okay what, ya lah uh you talking about friends in NIE currently or friends, but that's crazy you know what is the market rate apparently for Malay tuition


sixty to eighty bucks an hour, yeah, you know why, because it's because there are a lot of foreign students who are taking Malay, uh and so you are well the thing is once you graduate I think you can command much more


or even now you can try to push your luck, , any assignments ah


the thing is a lot of Malay teachers actually, well the thing is there are a lot of Malay teacher who would charge high fees lah and the thing is they don't want to negotiate downwards because is like you know to them, uh well it's your loss not mine if you didn't think me


oh only primary one and primary two, okay, okay, right, I give tuition also, ya so I teach primary and secondary school students that's what I do English I do Malay also


up to sec two, right ya lah I mean I, I'm not so much in tune with the syllabus so I use assessment books, which makes things quite easy right, yeah, a lot of resources out there the only thing is like there no resources for oral generally I mean I ya


well the thing is uh the MOE website apparently has, uh videos right I mean they they got videos for, ya they got like P S PSLE oral examinations videos but there's there are not resources for secondary school


online, right so even examination papers you can find online for free uh uh you can't find online anywhere, cannot find then I have to ask Malay teachers ya maybe I should ask you ah


out of the syllabus, ya penjodoh bilangan ya ya uh yes yes


how do you teach oral, so you got the pictures from the assessment books also


oh okay, ya ya quite true, what did you learn in school


why didn't you do that, what do you call it, Tampines JC has this special Malay programme right what, yes yes did you do that, so that's a an additional subject, (mmhmm)


, , when did you have to do, which part of Indonesia


in Sumatra is it in Java or Sumatra, okay, what did you do


, no kuda kepang ah


oh percussion ah Gamelan, so so what did you do, oh, so how you have to practise for a performance in front of an audience


so, uh practice over ten days, is it, !wah!, but then you can't really like see the, town and all that ah, oh it is not like the whole day ya


you can like go to the night market, only, oh, when, oh okay okay


, tuition teacher lah, well I guess you can say that lah, I mean


centre, I have the right now I I don't really have that many students, I still have about twenty students I used to teach in centres, ya and uh for the past two years I've been doing workshops in schools, I mean it's like


uh well the thing is uh it's uh there's a no barrier to entry also lah when it comes to doing workshops, there's a low barrier to entry it's very easy to become a workshop trainer you know, they pay about fifty an hour you work with a so I work with vendors lah so I I I got my I got retrenched from my last full-time job as an engineer I got retrenched


but before that I did a few jobs ah, so, since then but I've been giving tuition for twelve years lah since my first year in NTU, ya so avoid you, no no no no no no no no, so I didn't go back


it's okay lah, not necessarily I mean tuition if you have a lot of students your pay is definitely quite good lah the thing is the drawbacks would be, a lack of, CPF contributions, ya you when you have no CPF contributions you gotta make your CPF contributions


you just have to well put money into the O A account and the Medisave account lah, uh ya but there's a minimum uh amount for the Medisave account, ya not for the O A lah for the Medisave I mean it's like you know the government makes it compulsory that you put in


uh and amount compensation rate with the amount you declare know because you have to declare, an income, ya for the for tax purposes, ya lah I mean few factors, uh well the thing is uh the thing about


companies uh especially SMEs is that you know there are their, up and down cycles lah so the thing is uh, a lot of companies will hire and fire depending on, uh, the budget they have for manpower depending on the amount of work they have


ya so depending on several factors lah, so the thing is I I I started becoming a freelance tutor because its like it's quite easy can just, apply on the MOE website to become a I mean you can just apply for registration to become a tutor, ya and then apply to be megistrate so I I I got registered as a tutor then


eh as a workshop trainer then I I just, got in touch with friends who were already doing that, ya then they give me some jobs lah so I've been doing that for about two years so I I do like either debating jobs or public speaking, uh I did one Malay creative writing workshop and that was a disaster


because uh, it was a what's the I taught in this school called, #Qihua! or something, primary ya so I, so the thing is that was actually in, June ah I guess in June this year so like a lot


the vendor so what what, vendors do is that they will design material, ya they will design material or or perhaps they would, ya lah ya lah they they will get somebody to design material and then they would they would just uh give us like PowerPoint slides they will give us certain


ya some of them uh nice enough to give you know like certain handouts uh lesson plans and all that you just internalize those materials, and then you deliver the lesson lah, so what happened was so the thing is a a a lot of the time and overtime as you get more experienced you know


what to do you know what games to play you know how to engage the students to, ya I mean or what what what which material especially you know like talk about public speaking I've been doing it, quite quite a lot lah so most the things I know what is important what is not


and uh so the thing Malay creative writing I I English creative writing is so much easier, ya so the thing's very when it came to Malay creative writing so, , that vendor was nice enough to get a lesson plan and, uh we had a briefing on the morning of the first session it was a four day it was supposed to be a


programme that span across four sessions, ya I think to hours per session, so the thing is like you know the morning before the session, uh okay the, teacher-in-charge mention that she didn't want to follow the lesson plan


she wanted, my class so apparently somehow I got signed to the best class, uh you you see ah the thing I have never really, I mean I was quite good in Malay when I was younger but I was detached from Malay for a long, ya so the thing is I didn't do Malay basically I didn't study Malay since I was sixteen lah


but then again the things of course it's like you know like I I uh I mean sometimes you sell yourself as, beige good in something if you want the job right ya so the thing ya so when I was in secondary school I was the editor of the Malay magazine, so


and the uh in JC ya lah was writing think I wrote plays and all that, ya but that was back then lah, many years ago so the thing is of course I ya got detached from the language but I I still can remember


how to teach lah yeah so the but uh so generally when it comes to uh the syllabus for, creative writing just you you would have certain generic information that you present to the students right like how to plot development character development


I mean some uh certain topics that cut across English and Malay and then you have like you know peribahasa that you should use, ya and then you have like you know certain, uh ya lah and then you you have like perhaps certain vocabulary that you wants the students to


to master lah right right comes to say the name and all that to describe your emotions like your describe certain actions, ya instead of like for example instead of talk you say, exclaim for example right you get what I mean so there's a Malay equivalent of that


ya exact I mean like ya beyond that you is like now you want them to incorporate, as much as possible, like you know certain elements of classic writing, no no I mean not not just not have like, uh something that is translated from English composition I mean you get what I mean we we don't want them to just code switch all the time right as much as possible


and uh the thing is of course uh but the lesson planned was something which was so to speak generic, so she said the cikgu uh uh the teacher in uh in the morning before the programme, said that oh uh because she was like the editor of, the Malay magazine and all that you know in secondary school so


uh you take the best class so the other trainers were supposed to take the lower classes, and uh I want you to do uh I want you do basically uh carry out the programme such that you improve the ability in the language, so these kids, who were in the best Malay class


they were the cikgu said oh uh by the way the this kids that are best in her class uh basically they are children of like you know Malay HODs and Malay teachers, and they are really very very good so the cikgu their compositions ah so the I


I nearly fell off my chair ah it's like it was really really really crazy good, and uh some of the words I have never heard of , some of the words that they use I have never heard of uh and, ya it's crazy, they were very good and the kids are like very humble and very nice and jovial the things is like they were laughing around and


uh they behave like little kids but actually some of them could, uh I mean almost most of them can write really well they and yeah lah from what I saw I mean from the uh Malay scripts that I saw, the Malay scrips that were shown to me had like you know very good marks lah like you know thirty eight appoint forty thirty nine appoint forty


ya nobody got full marks but, they almost got full marks lah ya, ya that's the thing lah, so the things is uh I did three programme uh uh I did so the thing is she wanted me to like, and the things is you see I have always been quite busy lah so I keep myself occupied with a lot of things


ya so maybe in two hours I can share all the things I do , ya, so it was about forty minutes ah you stay after, ya, so, ya nowadays your turn to talk, , so the thing is like this is the first uh session so is like she say oh I can say it's right so you know what I did a not I told them uh okay basically


I did a linguistics module in NTU an elective module I did engineering ya so we you have to do cross faculty modules you have to right, ya so I did one linguistics module lah so I was telling them like you know the different elements of linguistics in general I was like sharing with them information that they wouldn't learn in school


like that lah ya so I was telling them you know there are eight articles of speech you know noun verb pronoun adjective, I mean you use all these terms you use words in these categories but without knowing what the categories are right so it's cool to know what ya and I was telling them it's like you know well as


you gain maturity in writing you can use certain which are more classic certain words which which are more profound which, the cikgu won't probably tell you lah you know ya for example instead of, uh


what do you call that, instead of a, character which is perwatakan you can use uh, this word called sahsiah I remember lah so instead of economy you can use iktisad you know right so the thing is as you yeah naturally you should


develop a passion for writing which goes beyond just because you guys are so good you know I mean develop a passion for writing which goes beyond just describing, pictures and writing simple stories lah you know I guess I, said something along those lines and then uh uh basically the cikgu said oh one of the words like I mention I think character character or


wait I think character is sahsiah so the cikgu said oh it's like you know the way you use the word is wrong so I said, you can't disagree with the dictionary can you, I don't know what she uh I mean she was quite full of herself ah and then like uh, I don't know she was giving me a hard time so it's like you know I was telling the kids ah it's like you know the thing is if you go beyond that you know if you use certain words like


transparent is telus you know you don't use you the cikgu won't teach you what only in secondary school if you if you do you do higher Malay, ya so if you do higher Malay you will learn all these words lah ya, so, so the cikgu is like the cikgu say okay at least you tried so it when the second lesson came of course is like the vendor didn't revise the the entire material


because you know the vendor this I mean the basically the, the vendor uh for this programme uh generally the vendors for all these, like so to speak of co-curricular programmes are non Malays so the thing is that they will just get maybe only one Malay teacher to come in just to design the material and then


so but technically amongst the trainers uh usually there's an assigned lead trainer and I wasn't the lead trainer there was another, much this auntie who was lead trainer ya so this auntie said you know, I she was at the meeting with the vendor and the teacher-in-charge that teacher-in-charge was giving me a hard time friend so the thing is they all agreed on this


like more this so planted you know they all agreed on this, they this material and this lesson plans, so why are you disputing it you get what I mean or not why you suddenly just change your mind and tell me to deliver some new material to improve the command of Malay of of kids


who are really brilliant in Malay, right how much value can I add I mean I got to do a lot of research lah and I got to talk to people and try to get materials and I'm not paid for that, you you yes you should say it from !wow! the get go lah I get !wow! when you had the initial discussion


then never mind now now I go suddenly you tell me tomorrow you you go and sing and dance I'm gonna sing and dance do wayang kulit I'm gonna do wayang kulit do back flips for you, I'm not even your slave or what then so second lesson came you know what I just delivered the materials that I have


uh I which wasn't what she wanted like you know how to do like you know rising action how to do a a climax falling action all that lah you know I just I just presented what was, in the slides so she wasn't happy she said oh you didn't follow my instructions, ya but that's the lesson plan I have no time to plan another lesson


so then the third lesson came third lesson came and apparently third lesson was uh an actual writing exercise so, ya I gave them a topic I mean I gave them like you know basically a picture to write on uh I mean to


a a picture as a reference to for them to write, ya, uh and then after that uh I just went around I like you know, surprisingly when I went around is like some of the some of the kids were asking me oh what is this in Malay what is that in Malay


ya that was quite surprising quite surprising I mean I don't even know if they ask for fun or they really didn't know and some of them actually, ya sometimes surprisingly wrote, wait wait wait what happened some of them wrote out of point I I it was


ya I think it was a story uh the picture actually, this wait lah ya there was something interesting the other time, I think the, oh I think uh I gave them like an opening


phrase to start with, to start the compo with and then after that then they also have like you know six small, uh I mean six six tiny pictures right in a collage that they supposed to use to write the compo


so some of them apparently didn't look at the the picture which I flash on the projector they don't look at the picture and they just wrote whatever they wanted to write, and they are not supposed to do that right they are supposed to use the picture right so ya so some of them have to rewrite when they are almost done


but ya it was funny ya and is like you guys are supposed to be the best of the best you know, I don't know, I I guess uh they were used to, ya I guess so they they were to used to having like everything on paper in front of them uh when something different goes on


yeah then maybe they a bit confused but anyway yeah lah after the third session they won't be coming back for the fourth session so the, the cikgu told the lead trainer oh I want somebody else to come in to do the fourth session the fourth session was, to be done I think a week after that so they wanted us to go home and mark


those scripts that we got and then, yeah it was quite ridiculous uh they wanted us to go home and mark those scripts the scripts uh that were done uh during the third session, and they wanted us to come in after like a month, to give then a new composition exercise and then bring home to mark it


and that's it, and of course is like you know, they themselves the exercise this fourth session is actually redundant and and apparently this Malay teacher she, claims to be uh I don't know maybe I mean from from, from the way she


talk with me and all that she thinks she's probably god's gift to the Malay world, yeah but, why you feel so good but you you get us involve I mean you were there also you just do your own thing lah


but only they've they've got a budget I guess certain schools have a budget the Malay department will have a certain budget to spend, and the thing is you see that got me thinking also, well you see you see eh like that vendor, was at the loss as to


who to engage and the thing is like the mentality if the vendor is just, uh, uh like you know uh the mentality that they want to make, profit as soon as possible as much as possible I guess that's how they say it and they say of course we need to deliver I mean we have a conscience and we need to deliver


uh material uh which is uh of a certain standard but then again the thing is if if, yeah if yeah so I guess if the material is agreed upon and it should meet the standard and when it comes to the delivery of the material you can just get whoever is confident enough to do the job


because like I mention the barrier to entry is very low the the the assessment there's hardly and assessment of, quality of traders, and uh the assessment is done basically by the school after the trainer has been engaged and by the vendor before the trainer has been engaged but then again the thing is when it comes to


Malay language is like you know they say oh you can speak Malay and you are you're quite in Malay okay let's just do it, well the thing is you see the problem is now in schools, popular well so to speak, trainers who deliver content in Malay


I feel in far between and the thing is you know right generally they'll do conversation Malay programme so you've you've heard of that right, yeah and that's very very easy to teach anybody with a Primary six education can teach that, is extremely simple but when you talk about Malay creative writing for PMCA student is a different ballgame ideally you should get a teacher to do it


and if the teacher is there the teacher needs help then, the teacher shouldn't be qualified ya I mean okay let's say even uh English teachers also get external vendors just to have a fresh face, ya just to have like you know a fresh spin on the whole topic


eh of of creative writing so to speak and that's why you get an external vendor to come in okay fair fair enough and perhaps they wanted somebody to come in and do the same thing, with regards to Malay language but, probably there's no vendor out there who's good enough, oh oh, have you


ex teachers or current teachers, okay


okay, so how long was the program, four session program, so about two hours per session ah, okay okay


, , !wah! they they just, so what was the content


oh okay okay creative writing, ,


oh I should buy that ah, , beside the Popular, yeah okay thanks for that I should go and get it


because like yeah uh uh like the assessment books I've used generally, are, resources to prepare the kids for paper two not for paper one ya and


yes yes exactly exactly so this book that you've mentioned uh it's a newly published book, is it, oh


okay ya, eh you be surprised ah some of them might do that oh well the thing is especially secondary school students who who who want to


uh write based on topics which are quite generic, you get what I mean so ya they can just memorise and the thing is like you know when talk about English compositions a lot of China students are actually, uh I've been told lah a lot of China students have actually memorized like the a compilation of like thirty compositions


ya and then during the exam they'll just pick one based on a topic that they choose they'll just pick one and write verbative you know, ya, so that's the thing, but in when it comes to Malay uh that uh you see the thing is uh


teachers teachers will in class teachers will highlight, model compositions amongst ya I mean uh model compositions based on what the students have done but then again uh the, ya unless you talking about, uh school like what I mention #Qihua#-Primary yeah you won't really have like super top notch


compositions right being written by the kids and if you want the best uh like so to speak the very good, premium model composition then you you might have to look elsewhere, right and the no teacher will write a composition I don't know why no teachers bother to write compositions


uh to show off to the kids because I probably might take some time,


, ya actually that's a good point, ya, and I remember, I don't know about the current landscape but then again previously when I was a student I remember uh like uh, there were compilations being done


by not just MO I I, I remember there there there was a publisher called Mekar or Segar or something what was that about ah like they compile, who is Mekar ah, is it Mekar or Segar some organisation that does the publishing


from different secondary schools right, (mmhmm), , ya that's the thing who's the who are the people this organisation


uh is it a subset of MOE might be right might be right, , yeah yeah yeah I remembered, ya


no lah talk about education lah better, cause we're we're both in education right, yeah, no then you see, okay so you mention


you mentioned kami boleh mengarang okay, so, when comes to oral there is no book right


oh yeah yeah yeah you did say you did say secondary school you teach are you planning to, but you did Malay Lit what so you Malay suppose to be


but I'm mean I'm teaching a sec two boy, actually I finally taught up to sec two or three, the standard is not that super high, ya , but you are a teacher what


you you are going to teach only primary school Malay only that, oh okay what if they ask you to teach uh sometime sometime they can just assign you to secondary school to teach they they won't


oh, there are more primary than secondary school right yet, actually which secondary secondary schools have merged ah no ah none, I know JCS, some no yeah yeah some have merged


ya ya


well some of the good primary students will go to, like NUS-high-school right or they will go to the integrated program but there are a few from in between isn't it, I mean you are talking about five percent of the population would actually qualify to go all these top schools


ya ya and and the thing is these school will need uh Malay teachers also what, ya, really ah


what is that, oh oh allied educator, , okay


, she wasn't trained also so she got the lesson plan, really, but the HOD ask her to do


eh uh you're talking about an allied educator teaching Malay is it English ah, okay


actually I've never seen that uh oh yeah but then I only do workshops ah, they are all diploma students is it diploma graduates ah


poly diploma graduates ah, Allied-Educators, really, even they do a diploma, really


is it if you've got okay what what is the criteria to qualify to, enter an allied educator course you need probably a poly, poly dip right, exactly, you with


like for you for you with O-levels you manage to get a diploma program to teach Malay right yeah, oh with A-level oh sorry with A-levels okay okay, oh yeah yeah yeah you you won't get the a full O-level cert if you don't pass GP


that happen with one of my friends yeah he did he he got like I think Bs, for like maths and Science subjects Math Chem Physics and something but he failed GP he had to retake his entire, yeah he he had to retake the entire exam, he had to retake the entire exam before he actually went to NTU yeah quite weird yeah so that's the thing yeah


so these people who became Allied-Educators I don't I mean, If I'm not mistaken I've got a cousin who became allied educator but he didn't go to NIE I don't think he went to NIE, yeah you have to be trained ah


, but you see the thing is if, if I'm a if I'm I'm a nineteen year old with A-levels, I will rather do what you did, then yeah


the diploma program, oh you have to do very well lah, one


so weird, how come how come, but what about the diploma program was it like well subscribed


why do uh so what do this diploma graduates do they become allied educators, okay


so uh okay those diploma graduates who didn't qualify to do the degree, uh so they will just enter the primary school and become and do what you will do, lesser than you because you have a degree but same job scope


same uh opportunities for promotion, probably


really ah, what , but that would have no relevance to Malay language right


Malay syntax in SIM, really


so the that is a degree program, you get a degree in Malay syntax, in linguistics lah, oh Malay syntax is one of the modules okay okay that's cool Malay syntax


you have to work part-time lah, oh softer softer, press okay, yeah so yeah you talking about Malay syntax so okay how, this is actually quite interesting you see ah uh


when we talk about, okay courses in SMU SUTD we we don't hear of Malay courses, uh I mean other than, NUS like Malay studies, right


what didn't you would you want to do a degree in Malay like, like I have got I have got a friend I I say I have so few friends who went to UM, yeah


uh documents what kind of documents, okay


uh but if should you want to do that where will you get like your loan from assuming you want to get a loan then you, you can get yourself linked from a bank probably lah but, uh or Mendaki lah possibly


right, ya correct correct there might be bias against uh, , , uh the only university is NUS Malay-Studies lah not everybody qualifies to go to NUS I guess it's easier to qualify to go to UM isn't it easier right


right right and and would, which other university would be, like you know a reputable university if you want to learn Malay studies, there's Malay studies in SUSS


really, okay, , but in Malaysia people only go to UM it's like everybody wants to go there nobody wants to go to like UKM or


UIA, actually UIA is quite reputable what I know Ibrahim in there, but they might have, a Malay language course right isn't it, they do they, because you see eh when we talk about Al-Azhar also you can go to Al-Azhar to do Arabic language or Medicine or something uh you don't have to do


religious studies necessarily ya, but uh for ya exactly for UIA I guess uh uh we can draw the same I mean it's pretty much the same situation isn't it, ya so


, ya it's the most renowned, would you want to do a Masters or PHD in the future


ya oh you done with studying, all the time lah but the things I've been to some extent a bit of a lost soul


ya no okay the thing is you see I've always wanted uh I've always wanted to just, become like a full-time businessman lah like I just wanted to do multiple businesses, I've always wanted to do that so the things is like you know I launch my first business


in two thousand and nine it was a tuition agency, so the thing is I'm, yeah, back then it was already a dime a dozen lah you know, tuition agencies were already a dime a dozen there were already a lot of people but now I guess the competition is intensified, and back then in two thousand and nine when I started


uh I did quite a number of advertisements like you know tuition advertisements in, uh Berita-Harian ah the Malay newspaper so the thing is I got quite a lot of, ya I I got quite a good response ah, and after like three years apparently


the crowd like, quieten, and uh people stopped responding to the advertisements, I don't know whether that was the case with, other tuition like agencies not many people tuition agencies actually advertise and tuition agencies actually advertising advertise


ya I don't know whether there was a case with the rest but that was the case for me lah, then ya so I matchmade tutors to students lah, ya so I did that I mean the agency is still so to speak alive but it's dormant


ya so once in awhile it's like you know if somebody wants to, ya I still have and and the thing that as time goes by it's like you know I uh I did that when I was NTU when, a lot of my friends in NTU and NUS were were giving tuitions lah that's why people


like like you will, do anything ya I mean they would they would just, graduate and do full-time jobs and and uh they would they would not give tuition unless they need extra income then they would come back, and then they would probably look for me lah you know


ya but there are so many agencies out there, like you know uh have you have you been spammed by some of them you might have, have you registered with her, , yeah


yes yes yes there's a social responsibility, but you can handover to somebody else, but that's life


yeah, well the thing is if you have the well well if if at this current moment if you think you can commit for the long term and if something crops up later on, then ya ya it's a different ya


I mean if you just want to do it for two months then you might as well just work in a tuition centre but that's the thing, I then, when this is the case this is supposedly the normal tuition centre why it, why enrol as a parent why would you enrol your student uh your child into a tuition centre knowing that this is gonna happen do you get what I mean


ya maybe it's a bit cheaper not so much cheaper I guess, right, uh ya so why why do that, ya, that's how the tuition center like you know the notable ones, the Adam-#Khoo# learning center Mavis some of them have good testimonials but some of them


uh really uh uh okay I have to, ya so to speak they have done a disservice because it's like you know they, uh I I mean a few of my students were actually in Mavis and Adam-#Khoo#, and they stop because they said that, the fellas were just wasting their money


they hardly benefited


I mean the the the the ones which are very, popular I guess the big brands would be maybe Mavis MindStretcher MindChamps, Adam-#Khoo# learning center, and of course Kumon which is a global franchise


Kumon is it Japanese, Korean, Japanese isn't it, they have their own syllabus lah for maths and Science right, ya last I checked it was, one of the top ten franchises in the world you know it's like you know some of them with extra cash who want to buy business they would like


buy a Seven Eleven franchise some would buy a McDonald's franchise some would buy a Kumon franchise, it's one of the top ten most popular it was number eight If I was thinking, like after Seven Eleven after McDonalds after like, can't remember what, and then there's the gym that doesn't close the twenty four hours gym what is it called


ya ya ya that's like number six or number seven, after that then Kumon, after that I think ya I really Google, top ten franchise ya ya ya so, because it's like uh uh ya there there are popular friend, I think it's the most popular global education franchise


probably followed by Kip-McGrath a friend of mine bought the Kip-McGrath, franchise it's an Australian, basically tuition company lah, ya you can buy a franchise also then, I have no idea man, any idea franchise things might be


I mean from girl hasn't address maybe hundred K, or maybe less, you know there's this rating I'm just plucking a number out of thin air, okay so to speak it's like you know some people say if you want to like establish if you want to


uh basically established a McDonald's lah right on average you need about five hundred thousand including franchise fees it's equivalent to the cost of the setup, uh the rental for six months or twelve months is it, uh the cost of uh manpower


ya today different operations, ya so when you get to Seven Eleven, there's Seven-Eleven uh you had the yeah the amount would be less lah maybe two hundred thousand, when it comes to Kumon I guess is like you don't need, uh like why why you you you don't need like a a lot of you you hardly need stock


right, to have a tuition set up is like you know you just need like furniture you just need, ya uh working air conditioner, ya you need a photo copy you need a probably a computer and a printer somebody to do admin to be a receptionist


to collect fees, and to and of course you need tutors ah right and you need uh uh ya you just need, lots and lots to people to print on, ya maybe books, to distribute to the kids, bottle water okay


ya maybe projector laptop, nothing much what right, but that's the thing ah Kumon is popular I don't know to what extent is it still popular and and the tuition landscape uh, from secondary three years ago lah I don't really read the papers much


from time to time I do but I remember uh it's a billion dollar industry as of three years ago, in Singapore, it has grown so much no no I mean uh uh


the way I said lah I mean if you talk about, brick and mortar uh establishment you know like you talk about uh tuition centers there's so many


and and and the, ya lah I mean some of this center probably don't just focus on, academic subject they focus on probably extra uh they they focus on enrichment program as well, ya they will organise like you know maybe trips to the Science Center or like you know uh like the tuition center I worked in previously is like you know


uh one of the they they will organise a holiday progress where everybody will would watch like Chronicles-of-Narnia together and then discuss, uh how to uh discuss how best, you can use the characters in Chronicles-of-Narnia as the model for you to


follow, you know improve uh to improve your, speech during your oral examination which make sense especially for China kids, ya because it's like you know ya kids from China kids from Indian you know they need to, unlearn that accent they grow with


ya ya ya so because other wise they would, they will not be understood easily the, , so so, but but recently actually to share with you I was, chatting with some friends of mine


ya some uh I've got quite a number of Malay teacher friends and they were, thinking of I mean I was just toying around with the idea of, setting up a like a Malay, a a tuition center focus on that is focus on Malay language or Malay literature and all that then


uh eh if I'm not mistaken there's already one do you know, there's already one, like like like, an actual set up an an an actual center where students go to to learn


ya, ya ya ya ya for a second that, the company that, operating the website actually has like, a center a physical center, and it's quite cool right so, but of course I think one center is not enough


right, ya and the thing is like, most Malay teachers I mean the truth is most Malay teachers who are the most qualified to teach to give Malay tuition or sometime, would not want to uh most of them are married with children they have no time


ya and even if they're single also they have no a lot of you see ah I'm I'm quite surprised some teachers seem to be able to do so much you know, they can give tuition they can uh ya they can teach in the school they can uh do sports play music


so my friends are crazy they can like you know go on trips they can do so much, and some of them are just consumed by the jobs and they can't do anything else


the HOD will will be responsible ah, for the amount of resources, !wah! that's good ah, oh-my-gosh


oh, but if you have a network of, teachers, then uh I mean uh teacher friends then you can just ask them right, right


but, what the chances of that happening, quite slim right you might as well do what's best for you, ya, really you mean there's intellectual property, that's


so if you have to come up with your own resources would you use assessment book material


but so do you think the life of teacher is very stressful, some people say yes but some from what I observed some people are not stressed at all, but is it the culture of the school the responsibility that you get, like the CCA you are in charged of


the kind of activities you have to organise, nowaday will be very busy, yeah then go overseas and all that sometimes right


but can you choose a CCA you're in charge of, you can't, then they will just assign, oh-my-gosh what what about you what do you think you will get, oh, which uniform group


okay okay that's useful, oh, you you mean you were in charge of girl's-brigade you can be in charge as a contract teacher ah


full-time like the only teacher-in-charge, sub teacher, !aiyo!, , like you don't get paid extra what right no allowance right


then how can you say no uh the the there's already a teacher-in-charge so why do you need me, oh-my-gosh, so if you don't go you have to show an MC


peer review, okay, who does the review, but HOD don't even know about your CCA


oh, okay eh talking about politics ah I don't know whether this is a true story but a friend of mine told me this story


it sounded too good to be true one teacher was very angry with another teacher If I not wrong was it in Damai, If I remember correct I might be wrong it was Damai Secondary or some other school but this was mine probably like five or six years ago


one teacher took, the mid year exam script of the other teacher and shredded them, and both of them got into trouble the one who got into more trouble was, the teacher whose scripts got shredded, this is but I don't know how true this is ah it sounded too good to be true


yeah but I I know there are teachers I mean there's, uh yeah yeah I mean that that that that's like you know a I guess I guess like a reason why, people always say oh teachers might actually go bonkers, I mean why there is a rumour because of the


also five percent, okay five percent of, people like you in the courses quit right, I know but uh even with the bond I was told


after my friend buy house in, and I eat uh five percent quit and pay the bond, uh I mean I mean ya ya lah you have to pay off the bond and then , if I remember correctly again this magic number five resurfaces when you talk about


teachers to go IMH you know to get treatment, ya ya ya, , ya and, ya lah the jon hazards lah


but some teachers are just, evil lah, either not I mean I've met some, I I ya, is like I remember you were saying about math right so the thing is like I'm remember is in JC my math teacher said is actually there's no hope for you I think she said that in June


ya, evil right and the thing of course is like you know uh students of mine I I think a few students of mine complain also that you know about teachers even uh uh to this day you know, I mean you're not talking about the time where, uh when teachers were allowed to actually like you know


uh uh institutionalized corporal what they called it corporal punishment they call it right ya, ya so the thing is like now now when when there are so many rules governing how teachers should act and behave what even then also there are students who actually


bear the brunt you know, ya for the receiving end of abuse, terrible you know, because I I feel feel my my students have actually complained a uh uh teachers calling them names or, ya, that psychological abuse is bullying


ya teachers are supposed to protect the students from being bullied but instead they are contribute to the bullying, ya so the you know what happen is like you know there's a teacher a student of mine that you know he came back after a long break, and he was I think last year when I was in sec one or something so he came back after a long break then uh he failed a test


so the teacher said that he was stupid for failing the test, so the thing he got angry and this was like ya boy who, had raging hormones also is like okay you say like so right now you're stupid for not knowing, and that I wasn't in class or something


for not realising that was in class and I wasn't up to speed with the syllabus, and she said oh how then after that he said that he walked away and the teacher took a marker and threw it at him, ya then after that is like you know he was so angry he lifted a chair wanted to throw it at the teacher


then uh, the other classmates like you know basically helped him down, so the uh the headmaster went up to the class called the teacher and him to the class to see the principle and the teacher, was like you know very very very emotional the teacher was oh the the teacher I think was trying to play


the nice person lah you know the teacher oh it's like you know I was like encouraging him to do better next time to put in a bit more effort, you know ya ya ya ya ya I don't why he was suddenly wanted to throw the chair at me, yeah, so the teacher was ya very manipulative and crazy ah this like you know old auntie


from China ya so, that's the thing so so then after then the boy said it's like you know oh I have the whole class as my witnesses lah you know, ya it's like you know everybody saw what she did and all that ya in the end like the you know what, the principal just


ya the principal just scream and shouted at the teacher and basically told the teacher that her behavior was unbecoming sent her to IMH for a year apparently, ya so apparently she went to IMH for year, and then she came back, and then she was extra nice to my student but


she was, trying to plot, evil schemes to like you know make his life difficult apparently like one day one day, is very funny so the thing is like you know I think not too long ago maybe uh a few months two three months ago it's like you know she was walking


past him, and suddenly she accidentally she she she bumped uh against his shoulder then after that she dropped, she apparently dropped her pencil case on purpose, and, loads of pens were strewn all over the floor and then she turn to the boy and said why you bump into me look at what has uh look at what you did


pick up everything then the boy said, , uh then the boy is like you know he he I think he, fractured his ankle or what he was playing football and fractured his ankle just before that and he I think his leg was in a cast, so it's like you know


uh he, tried to I mean he put on a show of trying to pick up the pens and, and instead he he kick the pens and the pencil case, like you know far away and then he said oh I'm sorry I can't do it and then he walked away ya so


that's why, , so the teacher, like you know created a mess for her for for herself to clean up lah it's so funny, ya so that's the thing there are teaches like that it's like oh-my-God it's crazy


like uh to begin with I I mean right at the start of the whole drama it's like you know why do you have to verbally abuse that boy, ya I mean he got nine upon twenty for a test but just, just say okay lah do hard work harder lah I mean why why do you have to like


ya ya ya, uh ya it's quite weird lah, I back then you know when I had a short leash I was quite hot-tempered lah especially, when in my early twenties you know why or not, I had


it's like you know sometimes I end up arguing with my students, and then it was stupid to do that when they try to be smart Alecks, when I tell them what is, what they need to do or I I mean I tell them what they need to do or what they need to memorise what they need to


understand and then they said oh my teacher said something else and what they say is totally nonsense, I got so worked up know, then I realized, there's only so much you can do as a tutor, then I was like no you have to learn this this is what you have to do no don't tell me all these nonsense


no, why why you here you want to learn just learn you know, ya just I'm trying to make your life easier by telling you what you need to do to do well, so I don't some students also get on your nerves lah I think from back then, I those suggestions will get to me the most


ya, and and and those students who are naughty eh who wanted to learn is like you know I just I just want to like them a lot you know, there was just a boy who was removed to eh who, this primary six boy I taught maybe, close to ten years ago he refuse to put on his shirt in class


in my class, ya he would be you know bare body kicking a football around in the whole, and then he sit down then after that he say eh teacher I want to go to the toilet and then after that I suddenly see him coming out with a ball and he's kicking the ball around again, then after that I'll have to like you know sit him down and say play play later there's a reward if you do well or something it was funny lah so I just have to


play catching with him it's quite, ya, cute and the thing is if they want to learn you want to teach I mean the more you feel like you know, passion about teaching lah and the kid is, has good attitude, ya


yes yes yes that's why, , some people say teaching is a skill some people say teaching, is not just about your ability to pass down information your teaching is a calling, ya


it's a passion or it's a calling, I don't know, it can be it can be anything what I I've met teacher who come usually you you see ah, some teachers, okay what, If I can, don't know whether it's a fair statement but usually bad teachers


bad teachers have the worst attitudes, I think generally that's the case with human beings in general if your attitude is positive you have a good heart generally it's like you know everybody will love you and, your job will be rewarding and meaningful, and naturally you will be good at it because your attitude is positive and you you your generally nice you know good hearted person that everybody loves


ya if you, ya so that's the thing like if you make small mistakes here and there you know your short comings will be overlooked, right, ya but a certain, not teachers like that lah, ya, and uh


ya ya so the thing is if I'm trying to think of whether I know of, teachers, who have very poor attitudes who are good at their jobs who are good at teaching have you heard of that, not really right uh uh, actually


maybe there was one ah, ya ya ya, ya ya not many ah, maybe there was one yeah, ya ya ya there was a Bio teacher I remember in in when I was in secondary school she was quite good, but I think she she like to complain about students and ya she was a bit


crazy, she was really crazy you know why because it's like you know it wasn't my class but I think she she was caught peeping at I was in a boys' school, shows got be pear so that's what they change,


yeah yeah yeah yeah it's very weird right people change in the class, it like in the boy school or girl school you all change in the classroom yeah yeah, oh you went to girls' school you know what you don't change in the toilet everybody is the same


!aiya! for boys you just change there lah in the classroom lah you know, I mean like after PE class you just change right boy school girl school different culture not mixed school mixed school goes into the toilet, yeah yeah yeah so that's the thing but anyway I'm I'm trying to think of other teachers


ya generally the good teacher are very nice people, ya ya ya some may appear nice but actually they are not, some of them appear nice but there are nice teacher who cant teach also


the reverse pet teacher pet can teach, not many lah yeah not many eh yeah yeah yeah, ya and sad sometime these teacher have good attitude they want to, do a good job but they just not good at it I the thing you see actually ah


, if if they put in effort you cant blame them, wait but of course is like, at the end of day the school is not charity if you can't do the job you should make way for someone who can, but actually the teachers I can't stand


and I think if If I remember correctly its always the teacher who are not good uh I mean the teacher who put attitude who do thing I can't say the teacher who teach the wrong things, , yeah yeah yeah I don't know


some of them are full of themselves I don't know I actually actually the thing is, some some ya ya they teach the wrong thing, some of the most basic thing which are supposed to the bread and butter of what they are teaching, right


I'm being misconstrued uh yeah I being I being presented uh yeah I mean being presented in, ya in the wrong sense, okay that when when I was in, in secondary school there was this


teacher who came in for a while sometime, okay that that there were a few scholars apparently from Oxford, ya some jokers, so some guys from Oxford who were MOE scholars they get uh they they did I mean they they


ya during their holiday because they were studying in Oxford during their holiday they came into Singapore and they, took some classes in different school, so they were superstar who goes around MOE school when in two thousand and one when I was in sec four, so he came into my school I don't think he was an alumni


ya I was in Victoria but he was he was a Maris-Stella boy I think, so this boy this guy uh in his early twenties so is like you know he came to my, school and he everybody greeted him like he was introduced as this rock star MOE scholar, like basically is like !wah! I'm a scholar in Oxford so he took my class for I think a month and then he


ya I think he went back to Oxford lah, so he told me steam, uh you you do you do physics, doesn't matter lah but you what steam is what steam, I mean all everybody know what steam is right


steam lah S T E A M ya ya ya so is the thing is he came to class and he was, teaching us uh like you know the topic of heat and thermal energy and after that then he will say uh steam is, condensed water droplets


so he said steam, as we know it is actually condensed water droplets so what you see riding up from a cup, of hot coffee, and also a a steaming cup of coffee is steam, and that is the layman definition but you supposed to teach us physics


ya I was doing pure physics is like yeah he is supposed to teach us the the definitions according to the, physics syllabus lah, steam in the physics syllabus because I teach physics also steam in the physics syllabus uh is actually, a a water vapor which is colourless which can't see


right, which is is actually water vapour at a hundred degrees, that water vapour at hundred degrees condenses upon contact with the atmospheric air, to become condensed water droplets that you see rising up in the form of a mist, you get what I mean so what you see what they layman call steam is not steam that's condensed water droplets steam you cannot see it's hundred degree water vapour


so this MOE scholar told me wrong thing not too long before my O-levels, ya, ya I got a A two because of him either, so that's the thing it's, crazy, is crazy and he's not an isolated case


they're so many, ya, of this kind of thing I I think I saw my student my student say oh my teacher said my teacher said that then some of them I never I giving because, so the teacher really taught them the wrong thing lah


that's the thing lah some hate the teachers their teachers and probably won't, some maybe like some teachers, but where where's the QC that's the thing and if they, okay the thing is when you talk about English it is like you know if you teach English, and if you look at the English department in all the schools


uh do they all speak well not necessarily ya do they all write well not necessarily but uh ya they get to teach English, **


so she was the youngest principal uh youngest, principal or youngest JC principal in the history of Singapore, the brilliant scholar apperently she spoke with poor grammar you know, she spoke with poor grammar like my mom were uh like you know attended one event one school event I think don't know the probably because of speech day or something


yeah everyone my mom was attended one event where parents were invited and she said, is is she like a mandarin teacher I think my mom thought that she was some mandarin teacher, because of her poor but I mean she spoke with like you know some kind of like


posh slang but then again the thing is uh her grammar was all over the place, she she can use like you know interesting I mean she can use good vocabulary but her grammar was very atrocious lah that's what we all remembered lah, which is weird and probably people like that thought


yeah English or History or Lit, right, but when it come to when it comes to Malay generally is like no nobody will say eh uh you spoke with improper grammar is like, yeah very rarely do you, yeah that's the thing no no I mean I mean generally


picking, when you speak uh Malay teachers when they speak in formal Malay or even tutors like, ask when, yeah lah teachers like me when we speak in Malay generally we we will really very carefully think before we speak, isn't it yeah yeah yeah


like you want to ensure the suffixes the prefixes are correct we used to write, word from especially the suffixes and prefixes the Imbuhan that is the, yeah yeah yeah that's the one I really uh would be mindful of ah If I open my mouth


this is right or not yeah yeah yeah that's what I do, yeah and and apparently I don't really memorise the, I don't memorise all


because like uh when, PSLE students are supposed to memorise four years worth right, and O-level students four years worth also right is that over that between the primary school no


they don't ah they don't, but I mean logically speaking you should have memorise right because you learnt it in primary school, right, but some of them are very simple what, yeah


everything will seem familiar if you read it, but , I don't know I think they should make it compulsory, for people to memorise for, yeah lah, I think from sec one onwards they should ensure that because you see eh I think is a waste


that we don't like people like me like I I think I am representative of many people, yeah, yeah, I think is ya correct correct in general conversation


, which movie, really, you watch Chinese movies, okay okay


, wait I what what did I watch ah wait the last movie I watch at the cinema was that, wait wait I I did go I think last last, no no no it was actually wait I I watch


uh Munafik two, I watch, (Uh) no uh to me it was better, yeah to me it was much much better, I I I watch uh wait I watch Mission-Impossible I watch


wait wait I watch quite, I couldn't remember the previous plots, yeah I only remembered, ya that one ah I I I felt it wasn't quite good lah to me lah apa lagi eh what else ah, uh ya lah I mean uh oh Venom Venom was also okay


okay so basically


yeah very weird, I think you're the second person I told I I went to watch uh so one thing about me sometimes when I free time I just go and watch alone, ya I'm not someone who will gather a crowd to watch a movie so I went I think you're the second person I've told this to, I mean I the second person who whom I'm explaining the plot to


ya because I think it ya, , I I don't think the movie really took off uh took off lah you can see whether it's still in the cinemas so the thing is is like, one one Malay actor I always see is Faizal-Hussain is there you know you know Faizal-Hussain, Faizal-Hussain


I mean it's this skinny skinny guy eh skinny fair guy lah without specs, Faizal-Hussain ya so uh you he's a very familiar face eh you see him like almost, everywhere ya I mean from from like twenty years ago, okay so this uh so basically okay the


there's a group of seven, like undergraduates so uh the setting was the seventies, sixties or seventies so this Malay uh like Malaysian undergraduates like you know apparently they were they were, they were all like


ya children of like rich people lah so the thing is one uh so one of them they were all in the same university so one of them, , had a family home lah a family bungalow ya, ya so the things is like you know one of them the leader of the group is like you know uh had a like a this this


like family owned bungalow in the middle of the forest uh which had ya which was like, uh maintained by a Batak, like like this driver Batak uh caretaker and his daughter, so they they will help to like you know they they were apparently paid to clean the house you know


to to ensure that the house was, ya lah well maintain so, uh so the holidays came the school holidays came uh and then he brought his like six friends this leader brought like six friends to, the bungalow lah so it's like you know then uh all of them were like uh


party animals who like you know drank and did drugs all that, ya by the way do you plan to watch the movie or so you don't ah, okay oh you're not a big fan of horror movies, Munafik, second


oh you you not the kind of person who who say oh don't tell me I want to watch on my own


no, eh you're a Malay teacher, you don't read Malay books ah, do you think there's a change actually there are a lot of things I want to talk to you about this you know, ya ya ya ya


no the thing is okay before we go on to the movie, ya, now two hours not enough ah, no the thing is you see ah you see ah we talk about Malay books I I mean the most interesting, book that's ever been written by a Malay was probably Lard have you heard of Lard


ya ya ya, really, like what, oh, you read those books


, and it's fiction, yeah or you can put it like


so what is sangkar a metaphor for


same guy same girl


eh I think I've, are you sure


I mean it's about the Malaysian navy right, ya I hear is good I hear is good, ya but the but the problem with this kind of movies is if you miss uh uh the screening at the cinema then what you gonna do


when you're gonna watch it, !huh! okay which website do you use, it's good ah, like like are you, ya


you can take but you can access using your phone also right, can right ya, I bought this Android box, then after that then like, I I no longer have a TV in my room lah I like ya I don't, don't watch TV


so the thing is like yeah like I'm I'm hardly at home and I hardly watch TV so the things I'm thinking okay, if let's say I got this Android box installed then I can watch that I just using this stupid Mio thing, uh to watch sports and all that right so I'm ya


uh so so I just have Mio but I haven't installed the Android box my dad doesn't want my dad hogs the TV in the living room, so he doesn't want to install the Android box he say, I don't know it's like you know he says oh it's like you know it it it might, jeopardize his chances of watching football but there's football in there also


uh no lah, can ah, really, oh you don't have to remove the Mio ah


movies, ah, okay okay okay then I think I will install later tonight, ya ya ya ya ya, I don't watch any movies lah so, what what what was I telling you about


eh no you won't tell him oh you went into the, ya ya no I I remember something like that it's like there was this, apparently this Malay quite popular Malaysian actor, I don't know whether I don't know lah there are a lot of, popular actor and actress so there I I remember it's like you know the


maybe two three years ago I saw, uh this guy was forced to marry this girl because of tangkap basah also, ya then then I don't know I don't know what was the context, I don't know whether it's a similar one, or maybe I think the


different titles ah ya ya, and you know what this guy actually had a girlfriend, so this guy had a girlfriend before that happen before he he randomly was forced to marry this random girl


ya then after that he he he he was to forced to marry this girl the he married the girlfriend, he's a son so, no morals it's just stupid entertainment


no but actually it's quite for me it's quite okay lah to me it was quite entertaining lah, no if you see it for the first time then it's okay but if, like you are a season tele movie watcher and you keep on saying the same thing then you get pissed off lah


but it was stupid you know so the thing is he he okay the thing is the tangkap basah girl is actually a very nice girl it's always like that right, very very super like, like like angel ya


religious , , uh uh ya so, that tele movie okay I watched, some episodes lah a a few episodes only so the things is like now that guy it's like you know he was conflicted so he said oh


he just wanted divorce the girl I think I think he was forced to marry the girl after than he, he wanted to divorce girl then after that then because he uh then then, , but he said, okay lah never mind lah never mind lah sudah never mind just maybe later I deal with the divorce lah just want to marry my girlfriend


then after that she already convinced his girlfriend that he didn't do anything with girl then after that he marry the girlfriend then the girlfriend got jealous the girlfriend keep on pestering him to divorce the girl the what, then he say ya ya of course I'm gonna divorce her I'm gonna divorce her tomorrow ya , then no then he was conflicted is like am I really in love with her but I have a girlfriend I love her and I've been with her for years


uh eh but I don't know leh maybe I like her or love her also then he he he just left her with the maid that the family I think, ostracised the the, I mean the exception of his Dad dental or what I think the whole family I ostracize that that girl because she's like a Kampong girl with like


no status not not the dato' status so after this right now then after that then uh of course she live with them then she was always with the maid, the maid was like you know her, her shoulder to cry on then after that is like you know then they say oh you you know I I'm sure you you staged the the tangkap basah situation because you wanted his money


yeah yeah, yeah then after that she say no what is like you know I I'm the victim here then after that the guy say no I, are you sure or not then maybe you want my money you think you cannot get my money you going to get divorce tomorrow or something but that didn't happen because the guy actually like her or something then finally


I stopped watching so I, so probably he will divorce the second yeah the girlfriend became the wife because she's the bad girl maybe then marry this one, yeah then the wife one more I saw I think I randomly saw is so dumb about some Pontianak


okay there was this Pontianak, who married a werewolf, some Malay telemovie yeah, then the but uh but uh yeah so this this werewolf, this Malay werewolf married married this Malay Pontianak then this Malay werewolf is a gym instructor


then after that is like the this Pontianak will be like fly, and feed him but she's like this glamorous like diva Pontianak, then uh uh you know go to the gym and see if he flirting with other girls, then after then, yeah something like that I don't know it's very weird


Pontianak and werewolf, and the kids have like mixed powers the kids were in school, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, but you'll be surprised I don't know you talking about population of twenty seven million people in Malaysia you just need like two three million people to like it


already made yeah, then I was talking about tujuh is very weird because the thing is like, okay so this seven people who were like you know uh they they were always drinking doing drugs and all that so the thing is that they, they went to


actually the thing is it it's quite racy you know so the thing is they told us cannot talk about this but but I think I just tell you lah because it's very weird, like like uh I don't know whether there will be red flags ah, yeah because you see ah they they went to the bungalow then after is like you know when they went to the bungalow basically uh


like you know , like the leader chatted with the, the tribal guy lah and the daughter the daughter is like sixteen so the daughter will is would usually the one that the tribal guy would, the the old tribal guy won't go over the daughter will like go over and clean the house all that so the thing is


uh apparently, wait ah what, what happened ah, okay so so so uh they, okay, so so basically there were four guys, one two three yeah there were four guys including the leader and three girls so one of the girls was a lesbian


ya, ya can talk about lesbian right, okay lah, ya lah, no sekali he make us talk for fifty minutes extra because we go toilet ya no lah the thing is is like, is like basically okay this lesbian like one of the other girls but then again this girl don't like her then after then this girl like you say you you if you to get me might as well


you know you you can't even get that Batak girl then you want to get me but actually the Batak girl quite pretty also lah, you can't even get the Batak girl then you want to get me then after that she say oh you don't test me ah but of couse he say in Malay lah you know, yeah eh don't cabar me you know don't challenge me, so then after this then you know what so the thing is is like


what what she did so ya so so okay so then they had a party a big party, ya with with like you know a lot of, booze and all that then after is that you know people were dancing around so this Batak girl was was tasked to uh serve drinks


ya serve drinks and and like you know clean the house, so that lesbian girl that, even lesbian apparently uh ask her to go up to the room to clean the room or what then after that she drugged she place like some kind of like, ya some kind of uh what do you call that


some kind of like a depressant uh drug, ya ya ya ya the date rape drug lah then after that then pass it to her then after that she forced her to drink it she drank it, then after that is like you know she did some funny thing lesbian thing then after then suddenly suddenly she went to the toilet suddenly two guys


oh to I I think the the other the other guys except for the leader oh oh by the way this leader really likes the Batak girl lah the the like, he before he went to university apparently, uh he, grew up with her eh I mean he's older than her but basically they were quite close as they grew up when he was a kid lah before he went to city in KL what


ya so the thing is so basically the the leader like her uh then after that they make fun of him because it's like you know they say he's too good for her lah because she's like tribal girl, then after then is like you know then then uh basically when the lesbian brought the Batak girl up then after then is like uh


one I think I think, everybody except for the leader and this other girl, the girl who challenged the lesbian uh except for the leader and that girl knew that they went up ah if I'm not mistaken, so the thing is of course is like you know uh okay so


so uh one girl okay so the story is quite funny ah so okay so there's this girl who challenged the lesbian, so that girl apparently single then after that is like then there's a lesbian, and then after that there's this article so this girl has something going on with one guy but the girl actually likes the leader so it's kinda weird


yeah so Malay Malay story ya, uh ya but it was quite freaky you know why wait so the thing is like you know these two said eh, don't, okay so so you know okay lesbian and so the the these two said don't tell the leader anything because the leader likes the girl so the and


and and the leader will definitely intervene and ensure that nothing happens to the girl then then if then uh if the leader finds out that, some uh somebody in the group try to do something to the girl then the leader will just say okay everybody pack their bags go back to KL that kind of thing, ya holidays over he wanted to happen then they say okay kay we can keep it a secret then they went up with the girl then after that then sekali two guys


I think they also saw the two guys also went up two guys in the group, so this guy and this girl who's like so to speak together kept the secret didn't say anything these two guys went up and guess what they rape the girl, so so the thing is, ya so so the the


the lesbian was doing some lesbian thing the maybe she was drunk then after she did some lesbian thing then she went to the toilet sekali these two guys lock her in the toilet, oh then say, ya both of them raped her, then and and you know all all this things right about them raping raping her and all that we we saw in flashbacks later on in the movie so it's like a two hour long movie so for the sake of explaining it


before the time's up then after that I tell you lah as as things as sequentially, as in sequentially happens so they rape her then after that then you know then, uh then they they they were like drunk and drugs and all that they didn't know what they were doing probably so they left they unlock the lesbian then after that then they left then after that then


the suddenly uh suddenly, okay all of them were outside, ya and the veranda area lots of table and chairs and suddenly the Batak girl, uh, like you know walk on her own, beside the house then after that then is like you know then was like blood dripping down her legs because like ya ya so so the thing is suddenly suddenly the sky went black


there was thunder and lightning, and then after thing the Batak girl like like uh like said you know she she cursed all of them I cursed all of you seven people so by the time then suddenly there was a big, like thunderstorm then they all the guest left


all the guest left except for the seven of them because they were staying there already, ya so the thing is like the she said I cursed of the seven of you all the seven of you will suffer the way I suffered you know all of you will be doomed, you know uh like you know you watch out I'm gonna kill all of you or something like that then suddenly she she walked towards a cliff


then she was like wanted to commit suicide then after that suddenly she she I think she she jumped then after that they caught her they say eh eh, uh now what you saying uh come come come come up we're trying to save you we're trying to save you then after that I think one of the guys let go


I I I ya I think two guys were holding her then after that I think one guy accidentally let go the other guy purposely let go then the other guy started purposely let go tak salah then she felled to her death lah, she became a ghost and she she she didn't just haunt all of them she killed all of them


one by one, because all of them have something to do with her uh rape and her death, uh with her rape oh oh oh you know what so the leader didn't know so everybody said I don't know what happen to her I don't what happen to her nobody knew what happen to her, uh uh everybody leader and one girl you know the girl who


Chinese lesbian both of them didn't know what happen to her why she became like that but the rest of them knew lah, ya so so so you know what happen, so so so so apparently all of them were responsible you know for some ill uh ill ill actions towards that


Batak girl so the thing is is like you know uh then then uh they, they went down the guys went down then after that brought her body actually to the house then there was a fireplace I don't know how come Malaysia got fireplace, it was a fireplace there then after that it's like they say uh macam mana ni what you gonna do what you gonna do call the police lah ah crazy you know we are all on drugs how you gonna call the police


you get what I mean we all on we all on deep drugs how to call the police then after that then we just bury her lah bury her then after that then the leader apparently did drugs also the leader was like ah, can't be bothered with all of you all of you all shut up he throw into the fireplace so he burn the body


throw the body into the fireplace, yeah so so, so she curse all of them she curse the leader before the leader did anything, but uh so so the thing is later on is like you know when he the leader progressively later on when people started dying one by one then after that I think the lesbian or what died first


eh no no no no actually the lesbian didn't die first I think the lesbian died second the first one died all of them died gruesomely deaths ah apparently, so so the thing is like like uh the murderer eh like the one of the rapists right beside so when he


yeah lah obviously one of the rapist died then another rapist proceed the life then finally then the leader was always asking what happen what happen how come is like that then after that then the, that rapist finally I think told told him the truth then suddenly he wanted to take the gun and shoot the rapist say you so evil you did that after that he said that you are more evil what


you burn the body, he said, yeah so, but I think I think in the eyes of the Batak girl and the hantu apparently, he was he didn't protect her maybe like you were doing your own thing so the and then he ask me the the the girl


who who challenge her apparently that was her crime she challenge, yeah then the lesbian did things the two guys rape then two people kept quiet so everybody was, so they they I mention Faizal-Hussein because Faizal-Hussein was the inspector yeah so the thing is to see he was inspector trying to investigate because the Batak uh father


like you know basically after she disappeared she came home she always comes home everyday after she disappeared he wanted to know what happened to his daughter everybody said, oh maybe she left with some of the guest then she said no what she's a very homely Batak girl she always come home it doesn't make sense then she he reported to the police that's why the inspector did the investigation


then yeah lah then after then, I think the inspector all the way till the end of the show they know, what what exactly went on but uh in the end he saw, yeah the last okay yeah lah actually there was a twist so


so the thing is is like you know after everybody died except for the leader and, the Yasmin girl who yeah who challenged the lesbian so both of them I think were the last two standing then so the thing was suddenly uh the leader went to the Batak father, and then he like you know beg him to save her to save him then after that the Batak uh gave him like a


uh tangkal like you know uh talismen ah, eat the fruit so then they said you use this and then you can leave, oh because the thing is it's like it's like part of the curse was that you you could not leave that island you could not live that tiny that house


that the vicinity of the house you cannot leave the house and you will be killed, they were they were they were trying to get out because they were they came via a van then they couldn't they couldn't leave all the guest left of course the police man can come in and leave, they cannot for some reason they were they were they were trying to drive out then suddenly tree fell then after that then suddenly they can't find their way out


so that was part of the curse they were they were doomed they were they were confined to that, uh house the vicinity of the house and they would die there killed by the ghost apparently so there was a curse, so the thing is is like of course they try to escape many times they couldn't escape then after that they gave up then after that they knew that that they had been cursed at first they didn't believe there as a ghost and all that then


ya so so in the end, that guy was like ya who who managed to escape so he wore the talisman then the the, the girl's father told the Batak girl's father [kan] then to him is like you know you you you can leave you just wear this and leave, he was pissed off he knew that probably the the girl become hantu already but he just


he just said okay lah just use it as a leave to help the guy scarcely the guy was just about to leave, like so to speak that forest he left the house already he was he was in the van he was so happy he was about to leave the forest suddenly he saw the girl, he saw the hantu then what happen after he saw the hantu then after that he


uh in front of the van then after that he alighted from the van then he say I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry that kind of thing, then, uh the movie cut to Yasmin Yasmin was in the house the inspector uh like no the suddenly the house started crumbling


the falling fall ya falling apart then after that the inspector pull her jars before the house suddenly, crumbled to the ground ya then after that then he managed to to climb over again and managed to help her climb over uh again


that was the boundary to that forest and guess what right after that happen the gate suddenly levitated, and the sharp spikes of the gate pierce her, and then, the movie cut to the last scene where this uh the leader was in the straight jacket in the mental institution apparently when he was talking to this ghost nobody could see the ghost what then


uh the uh like you know the forest was filled with, a as the forest had like a Batak community like a some Dayak tribal community so some tribes some tribesmen apparently saw him and brought him to the, mental hospital so ya he was a straight jacket then after that he was like he kept on saying


saying the Batak girl's name is Suri oh I am sorry Suri I am sorry I am sorry I am sorry then finally he hemorrhage and then he, died, ya suddenly it's like you know they they they show Suri like above him then after that Suri was like you know suddenly, ya


doing this ya doing some kind of, yeah all of them died gruesome deaths no the thing is what was very weird is that there was no like like, uh Islamic element you get what I mean ya very weird the the only Islamic element was


uh, Assalamualaikum, ya the salam uh that that that the inspector said when he went to the house and which wasn't answered it was it was quite weird, ya so so that's the thing usually in all these like ya ya there will be, of course Munafik I mean when you look at the western ones is like you know they will they will they will feature the cross or they will feature like


so yeah some kind of holy water whatever right so that that that's the, most unusual thing I think the, director and the producers you know they wanted to portray something which was different, ya some he wanted to to basically uh like like ya lah I mean it's I mean


ah ya ya ya, yeah, but I I hate I don't know I mean Munafik of course got rave review but this one I haven't check the review can check ah later, of course not lah of course not of course not of course not of course not cause it's a B grade movie for sure


not that Munafik I mean Munafik but, cinematography wise of course you you can see it's be great lah you compare to Hollywood but then again eh you've exceeded ah, eh, you've exceeded already, ya cool ah ya so ya but anyway anyway ya lah Munafik of course


I I I think the acting was good the storyline was good and and I think even though you know, what happen the second one you should still go and watch it, I think I think


, no the second one was was had some, like like basically the second one was very touching lah more touching ya, ya that's why so it's like like he really went through a lot the first one was about


(Uh) okay you see ah the first one is about him, to some extent almost questioning his faith, but the second one no the second one was like no really him like really, he he kept on holding on no matter what happened it's like you know he was possessed he was


he he he was sick he was possessed then after that he was tortured, really really really is like you know, we kept on wondering eh he haven't die yet ah, yeah eh haven't, what're you gonna die is like is like you keep getting tortured and all that ya then finally really ya lah


oh then then after that then that that movie featured not just him as a victim but another girl also do you know about that, ya that girl died !wah! that girl also is like I, , ya it's crazy lah the because the girl also questioned her faith initially then after then the ustaz that


Ustad-Adam told him to to her is like know never ever question your faith lah, but but she also went through a lot because apparently she got raped by the leader of the the what do you call that, what what no no it was not a tribe no no no it's like it's like the the name of this cult


ya the leader of the cult who who who, masked himself as a holy man it's like you know he apparently raped her and he had a daughter she had a daughter then after then it's like you know she, single-handedly took care oh of of the daughter and the her father then after that then then's like you know the


the father the father was was the imam and the father was possess also and to the point, uh after he died didn't know he died, ya so the thing's he already died but but nobody knew he died because it's like you know he was possessed and such that he can come to life and


and and and suddenly become like you know this kind of freakish creature and all that, that but the harder he already died, sad right very sad then after then it's like know then this lady was living in fear with the kid then after this like you know then that that cult leader wanted to, kill the kid and make uh all all the cult members drink the blood of the kid the the the the


ya that lady said eh this your kid what then after that he heard then he was like ah okay okay you both go then after that then it's like you know he arranged her to be raped by everybody, uh !wow! then after then it's like you know then this would, ya then after then it's like you know then uh right at the end then ya lah


then uh finally he this Adam was like was was chained against like a like a pillar or something then, then he you know sidekick he was imam with the mosque what then he a bilal the sidekick


then the sidekick apparently conspired with the cult leader to bring him down because he was jealous he wanted to be the imam , through this way stupid right, ya so he say say he conspired then after then he's like know when when he saw Adam like that about to die then after that he regretted and he cry


stupid right you want to be mom then after that you conspire to do this, ya the end is like basically there was some, yeah azab thing lah like like basically everybody died lah, yeah, yeah I mean all the bad guys died lah


ya ya ya ya and and the lady died trying to save him so in the end told so she hobble, after being tortured then she died then after that finally then ya, god brought his wrath down on them lah then all the bad guys died okay I really have to go


(ppo), so late, okay so I think we, ya


hello, hello testing, okay


mine is yellow and pink and white as well, but I have another, towel there as well I have three towels one is white, oh okay then I circle that, okay


below that do you see a dog there I see a dog there beside the dog there's a pig do you have a pig there with, a bunch of grass uh I mean leaves there


ya right below them the two kids playing on a seesaw, K one of them is wearing blue and orange shorts with blue shoes


and the other guy is wearing a orange hat white shirt blue pants yup, right below them on the left-hand side bottom of the picture I see a person wearing white


brown shorts I guess ya and there are two haystacks, beside them, and the guy is like lifting both his hands up like he's surrendering you know and then there's a guy, ya


ya the other guy is saying I'm gonna shoot you cowboy, okay and then right in the middle of the picture


alright the guy is saying I'm gonna shoot you cowboy what is your guy saying there