like those , popcorn chicken, yes, yes, so you can just, uh throw them into the air fryer


and they will become crispy, yes because they are already


pre packaged, and also for, air fryer, I I've tried, grilling, fish and


chicken using my air fryer they turn out delicious, uh yes they they will but usually I will remove the skin


uh usually after I air fry I will , I will put some water into it first, so that the, so that the food doesn't


uh doesn't stain my pot, yes and I think you can also spray a bit of oil


ya spray a bit of oil before you put the food, into the pan


no I seldom cook I seldom (ppb), I rarely do cooking, I'm more interested in baking, uh the easiest one will be


muffins and cupcakes, and I've also, bake, banana cake, before, and scones, uh but it takes a lot of preparation time


it's more of passion and also if you bake your own


uh pastries you can, uh reduce the sugar, because usually when you buy from, the stores outside uh they are red they are pretty sweet, so I will usually reduce the sugar in my recipes


yes just like bubble tea, uh I drink once in a while


oh which uh which, which bubble tea did you like most


uh oh I see, I like the pearls too very chewy, chewy and springy


yes it's full of sugar and carbohydrate, it's very fattening, but it's very tasty


oh , do you often eat food high in sugar


oh speaking of fast food, which is the latest, uh new burger or, or any new product which you tried from fast food restaurant


oh I have heard of the Ha Ha-Cheong-Gai burger, I I tried it too, I pretty like the chicken patty, but I think the sauce uh overpowers the, Ha-Cheong-Gai chicken


oh I think the portion is good, I felt very full after eating one burger


so it's a burger with fries and a drink


wow, I see


oh I see, you should really cut down on such fast food


that's why they are called fast food, oh okay, I actually saw this , grilled chicken from kfc, but I haven't tried it myself


uh I'm not sure if it's one piece or two piece but the, picture which I saw, was only uh it was only like one chicken thigh


I heard that it is nice, I want to try it someday, I hope they still serve it, oh okay let's go after this


is it from kfc


oh I see, uh I think they also have this fries with the Takoyaki sauce


I think so I have seen the photos, uh Takoyaki sauce is your, just now you mention that you ate Takoyaki in Japan, the ya the brown sauce with mayo


and some uh Bonito flakes, oh what else would you call it (ppb), brown sauce


okay uh, just now we spoke about bubble tea, uh another, beverage that I like is the Thai milk tea


oh usually I order uh less less sweet like twenty five percent sugar


I think you can always ask them for less sweet, is a standard, sugar level


I see, uh I prefer the green milk tea to the red milk tea, I think the green milk tea is uh less, cloying, it's more refreshing, and you don't get sick from drinking too much


uh yes, good for the eyes, usually I will buy from, uh Tuk Tuk Cha or


there's this , oh there's this fresh uh there's this uh tea shop I think they are from Thailand, it's #Cha Tru May# or something


uh yes, cause there is one, uh there is one outlet near my office, my office is uh near Kent Ridge mrt


and this uh Cha Tra Mue is at, uh seven world, it's a I think is, near the science park area, walkable distance from Kent-Ridge mrt


yes, that will be good, or you can also buy from Tuk Tuk Cha, Tuk Tuk Cha has more outlets


oh so their food should be very authentic, oh really, that's uh, flattery


oh ya compared to the prices in Thailand, is definitely more expensive


oh that side, more than twice the pricing, oh I see, uh usually uh I just buy their milk tea I seldom


eat, uh the Thai food there, I think it's about three dollars for the regular size


oh the regular size, oh I see, I have only been to, Bangkok once


uh I'm not a shopping person, I prefer to eat, uh just went around, but there are a lot of places I have not visited


next time I would like to go again, yes, because I often see uh often watch, uh those gourmet, show on tv, and the host actually they


ate at places, which serves uh seafood and they say that the seafood are very delicious and affordable


oh what adventures, I I have seen Khao-Yai online, the place looks


uh gorgeous, is like a European, yes I have seen photos of it as well


something like a vineyard, yes me too and there are also farms, I think alpaca farms


uh Tai-Wan, I went to this uh alpaca cafe, at Dan-Shui, yes there is, there are two alpacas running


roaming freely in the restaurant, uh they, they will chew on your belongings


yes they will chew your bags chew the chairs, and chew your shirts, oh uh I don't think they chew our food , they eat fresh vegetables the cafe actually


they actually prepared this slice, vege like slice carrot slice potatoes, and they leave it at the , leave it at the cashier, so you can go over to the cashier and take some vege to feed the alpacas


you don't have to pay for the feed but, you have to order something, before you can, before you can approach the alpacas to take photos et cetera


yes because otherwise many people will flock to the place but, they won't order any food


uh there are more outside, outside the restaurant uh ya in the backyard there are man there are a few more, and it kind of stinks outside


uh no the two alpacas in the restaurant are white colour I believe they bathe them regularly, I think so, yes


uh it's expensive compared to the, usual Taiwan food prices, I think it's about twenties twenties twenty dollar plus, sing dollar


uh they serve food like uh spaghetti, I think you can choose, they have things like spaghetti and Baked Rice, yes I think it's


easier to cook (ppb), but the food there was not fantastic, yes that is the selling point


uh when I was there it was uh fully seated, you can walk in but


you can walk in to try your luck, but they have uh I think they have, many, tourists likes people who self drive in Taiwan, cause I have seen some uh big groups


I think they are families, err I think they are Malaysians and Singaporeans (ppb) from their accent


but I think uh people in Tai-Wan should know about this place, oh yes Dan-Shui is in Tai-Pei


it's at the, it's a bit on the at the north, I think Dan-Shui is famous for the


fishermans wharf, uh yes I have seen the, pictures but I didn't visit the Fisherman's Wharf, yes I only went for the alpaca Cafe


yes, uh I went to


catch the sunrise, at this mountain call uh He-Huan-Shan, ya, I was there in


November I think, it was very cold up on the mountains in the early morning, to catch the sunrise, I think it was uh like two to three degrees, ya, oh we didn't but luckily the uh home stay which we stayed at they


uh they offered, down jackets, for free, uh it yes it was enough but only the palms are freezing, yes and the


handphone battery died very fast, yes because it's too cold for the battery to take it


uh I think is in, it's not in Taipei it's in, it's at, Nan-Tou if I'm not wrong


uh is at the middle of Taiwan, it's near Tai-Zhong, I think is between Tai-Zhong and Hua-Lian, is in the middle


uh I'm not sure of the elevation but I think it should be very high considering that the temperature was, two to three degrees, oh we booked a tour, there's this mini van which brought us out


uh yes, oh we get I think we gathered at four, four plus am


yes I think it was four plus or five am, before six, ya it was actually, not that long


cause my home stay was quite, high up in the mountain as well, uh no it was quite smooth, they have a proper ya proper tarmac road


oh how do you travel up, by bus


I see, then that's very lucky


yes it's very important to buy travel insurance, I usually buy travel insurance because uh you wouldn't know, uh what, situation you will be caught in like maybe your luggage gets lost, or you get uh


ya or you maybe you, encountered theft at the country


oh then what happened, oh that is very


worth it five hundred dollars for a damaged luggage, earn four hundred


oh uh so how how did he travel with his damaged luggage, wow then it should be very heavy


oh I see


so did he treat you a meal, that's not very kind of him


uh I have heard but I haven't been there before, I think I think it's a place where, a certain movie, was filmed there I couldn't remember which movie


is it Jackie Chan movie, I see


oh on a cruise ship


I see, so just now you mention you stayed overnight on the cruise ship, was it stable or was the, was the ship shaky


so the waves the sea waves was not very, uh was not very choppy


so the rooms are on board or, or is it like below, it's on board


oh uh so was breakfast served, I see


oh uh how how does the spring roll taste like, I think it's very raw, with all the raw vege


that's very sad, okay what else uh what else did you eat what what other Vietnam food other than the, spring rolls


the noodle soup, yes


so they only have beef do they have other kinds of meat


so your two hundred Sing dollars, was only spent on food


oh I have heard of Vietnam coffee, oh what is egg coffee


but how do you drink it do you mix do you mix it, oh I see, so


the, so the foam on top is your raw egg


oh okay I see, I do not dare to take raw eggs, I love , you know our local breakfast like Ya-Kun, they serve uh this half boil egg, with the runny egg yolk and uh


and not and the, not so hard egg white, watery, ya, yes, but is slightly cook


oh you mean, I see uh the last time I ate I think I paid, three dollar something for one uh set, so it's a kaya butter toast, two uh, half boil eggs and one cup of tea


ya actually you can just make it at home


in the breakfast set, I see maybe you can try , just put it in your normal pan, uh don't need to add any oil you just put the toast in


and you heat it up, I think it will do the same, yes, uh I think I will try it at home too, I need to buy some


kaya to go with my kaya butter toast


there there are many brands in the market I'm not sure which one is the best, but usually kayas are very sweet


so it is just uh sugar you just taste sugar, Pandan, uh not even Pandan flavour, oh, that's very sad


I see, uh do you like to drink coffee and tea


oh me too I prefer tea over coffee


oh do you mean, tummy aches, ya I think coffee has some mild laxative effect


sometimes I get it too, you will send that's why you like bubble milk tea, ya you've mentioned just now


I also prefer tea, I I like the aroma of the tea, the tea leaves


but I think it's different, yes is taste different from outside, is the tea the the tea made from tea leaf are, the tea taste is stronger


oh uh which tea bag did you usually drink, oh, ya Lipton is the common, tea leave brand tea bag brand in Singapore


okay speaking of Sri-Lanka, I think it is worth to travel there someday too, I've heard from people who went there before, that the (ppb) the country is uh relatively safe


and the scenery there are also very pretty, why is that, oh ya, do you know what language do they speak


but I think they should know English


oh you mean uh Sri-Lanka and India, I see


I went to uh Hua-Lian, uh they Hua-Lian is famous for the #Taroko Gorge#, the mountains


ya so I brought my mum there for trekking (ppb), she complain about her leg pains (ppb)


uh yes, yes it was too strenuous for her, because the uh the road was uneven, yes


the paths are consisted of, I think rocks and, sand


oh actually I didn't know we have to take this track, I book a day tour and I thought we just go, up there to take photos, but end up we had to walk from, this place to another place


yes, that's why uh we had to walk a distance, to get to the other end, to board our mini van


uh she enjoyed, she enjoyed the trip because uh, I did all the planning, ya she just follow me around


uh maybe next time, but uh because of her age, uh many things uh I cannot bring her, overseas, for many activities


yes with a, tour bus and tour guide, so they walk less


do you have anywhere in mind, I think Malaysia is good enough


Malaysia is uh ya Malaysia is nearby, and there are also many places to visit, like Malaysia is a big country, uh Malaysia you can always


visit, uh like Penang kl, the usual places that Singaporeans go for food


actually China is good too, I have not been there, some of the some of the places have really beautiful sceneries too


oh, ya, oh I have not been to China so I'm not sure


oh that is so much advance than Singapore


I think you should change some money first


ya just continue to save up


I think they would prefer, somewhere further, like Japan, unless you go on a self drive holiday


me too


oh, yes correct, err because I do not have licence so for my past holidays I have to (ppb), I had to depend on public transport, and sometimes the public transport, they don't come on time, so I will get worried


whether I miss the bus or something, because uh some buses they have very long waiting time, for example in Okinawa, the buses, maybe come only once every thirty minutes one hour


so if you miss the bus you have to wait one hour for the next bus, yes because Okinawa is not that accessible


oh that's sad, the next bus, oh same as mine


ya when I was in Okinawa I had most of my breakfast in their, convenient stores, they are good enough for breakfast


ya I I I see I agree, in uh in I actually ordered , hot coffee, when I had my breakfast in their convenient stores, so I ate my breakfast in the convenient store


something like a bun, with a cup of hot coffee, uh I never tried their cafe breakfast


fluffy, oh was it the one that I visited, is call Happy Pancakes


oh you mean in mainland Japan, oh, I see I tried this uh


pancake, souffle pancake at Okinawa, yes the Happy Pancakes, the pancakes are very, giggly and fluffy, and you can watch the staff making the souffle pancakes from outside because they have a glass window pane


yes you can see what the chef are doing in the kitchen, and they serve , they have sweet, pancakes and savoury pancakes


ya I had the savoury pancakes, they have like err cheese mushroom omelette (ppb), with pancakes and some sides salad


ya and also they have sweet ones like with, chocolate or fruit jams, uh ya but theirs is more uh with fruit


yes and it looks more appealing too, because they use colorful fruits like strawberries blueberries, ya it uh so it entices your appetite


yes, of course


uh they have the largest, uh aquarium, I think


actually the I actually I find aquariums uh, similar, but they have the they have the largest uh, Whale Shark, they have two Whale Sharks in the aquarium


ya and they are really gigantic


uh yes, I saw , they have, a few huge lobsters in the aquarium, they are really huge, yes, and also like crabs and some other sea creatures


uh you mean the lobsters, uh no, the lobsters are not for sale


and they have a, they have a pool with , turtles, many huge turtles in the, in the in that pond


from what I see I uh I think there are two kinds they are two different kind, but they are all very huge so I guess (ppb), they are very old, and I was there for this


dolphin performance, uh yes it's at that it's at an outdoor, uh there's this place you can sit outdoor


so you you will look at the dolphins perform, at the stage, uh you have dolphins uh jumping out of the water to, hit the balls, out there very high up


and even the dolphins I think they have they have different breeds, and the dolphins are ya the dolphins they, they will dance and sing under the command of their uh, trainers


yes, whale watching, oh uh there is but uh only, during certain months


uh I believe it happens during uh winter, the whales will migrate to somewhere warmer, and that's when you will see the whales


oh I, I have, gone for whale watching in Sydney instead, yes so we were really up close with the whales, they will just like uh few arms length away


oh uh, we, the one that I went with was a small bumper boat, a small speed bumper boat so that were only


less than ten of us, it's a smaller boat, ya, so we get really close to the whales, so if you are on a, on those bigger cruises


you will not get as close, as compared to this smaller boats, uh no the whales are actually very playful creatures, uh they heard us cheering for them and they


sort of perform for us, so they slap their whales against the water, and uh one of them, uh breach, afterwards, but I didn't manage to catch it on, photos or video


err no fortunately no, but , but they, everytime we cheered they will, they will slap their tails, so it was, yes, so they were very adorable


uh we saw two whales, ya we saw only two whales, I think it's not easy to see a large group of whales


is not guaranteed, yes you are correct, ya but you have to go during, uh certain months in order to see the whales which is their migration period


I (ppb), I was in Sydney in September


ya, so I think there're certain months where you can see, the whales


oh but I don't think you want them to ride on the bumper boat , uh yes because the bumper boats are not suitable for


the older people, it's very bumpy, ya, correct


yes it is interesting, ya I actually brought my parents to, Melbourne, to uh watch the penguin parade, but unfortunately uh photography is not allowed


because uh, the flashes from the cameras, will scare the penguins so they don't in the park they do not allow photography


uh penguin parade okay you will see usually it is in it is held, then uh you will, you will sit near the beach, then uh in the evening the penguins will come home from the sea so you will watch them


the beach and then they will make their way back home, back to their own nest, uh yes, uh and I think they are bringing food back to the children


yes it is very, uh okay


oh but, oh then that's too bad but she can always look at the penguins


oh that is not allowed , oh but you can, take picture with the, penguins statues


uh ya, oh uh I see, she likes photography


oh, I can't do that I will get really hungry, oh , oh


so you just take pictures for her, oh (ppb), that's very mean, I see (ppb)


oh, it's allowed but, uh you won't be able to take photo with the whales, oh okay, maybe she can try a selfie, uh ya


because , the because the boat ride is, very bumpy, so I don't think she'll be able to get a photo she'll be able to get a selfie with a whale (ppb)


the handphone will drop , oh that's a good idea


oh uh recently I started watching Game of Thrones, ya I only started a few weeks ago


oh yes, uh I'm only at season four, I think there are, nine seasons already, uh it's about the ancient kingdom


where people fight to be the king, yes


uh it's about, I would say it's about wits and plots, so they they will team up with some, other people to get rid of the enemies, and sometimes they backstab


others, it's like the, it's like, our, typical Chinese, palace uh drama kind


uh yes, uh is it Running Man


ya I have heard of Running Man but I don't watch it, so is it, uh really that funny


I have heard of him, he always acts stupid (ppb)


wow that's unexpected


I see


oh he's really unlucky, I have no idea


oh that's really unlucky, born to lose (ppb)


I see, uh usually I like to, stay at home to watch my drama, or I like to go to the movies


so lately I've watch quite a number of movies, I usually watch, on Monday and Tuesday, the, uh movie tickets only cost six fifty


that is like half the price of a weekend, ticket, uh recently I watch, uh the Nun


ya, it's a horror movie, uh yes, I think it's related to the Conjuring, but I don't find it that scary


yes I watch, I do watch horror movies, and I don't feel scared at all, and


uh yah because I know that the ghost are fake, so I don't I am not afraid, oh I think it's okay if you're watching in a cinema


because so many people are watching with you, I will be more afraid if I'm watching alone at home, wow


that, is too much


but how do you know, how do you know that person who is crying is also a movie goer, maybe she is something more


oh she was right behind you


uh okay I see, oh uh other than the Nun, recently I watch, uh hold on ah let me think, I watch quite a few, movies recently


I think I watch Mission Impossible, ya the movie was very exciting, from beginning till the end, and my palms were sweaty


uh you can watch it online


uh yes, because he uh he was chasing, the bad person, uh and their helicopters crash into this, crash into this uh mountainous area


and he had to retrieve the remote, uh which will trigger the, bomb explosion, so he had to jump off his helicopter to uh to


the other helicopter to retrieve the controller, yes and he is quite uh advanced in age


he's in his fifties I think, oh okay, I guess different people have different uh strengths


oh uh did you have you heard her sing before, oh how, wow did she uh take part in competitions


oh I see did she win any price, trophies, oh I see


that's impressive


I see I I watch Crazy Rich Asians, ya


uh I think it's pretty good, uh it's about a, this uh, girl they think the boyfriend, but the boyfriend comes from a very rich family


so the, boyfriend's mum disapproves of their of their relationship, yes uh, she's a uh lecturer


in a university in the us, oh but uh, the family is the richest supposedly the richest in Singapore so they expect


to match with someone who is also (ppb), rich, yes, uh yes sort of


did you watch any, like online, oh #Ah Boys# to Men I think few years ago


I see


I see, oh like what I didn't notice


oh which brand was it, I didn't notice, oh I see


oh I don't think I will watch it again , I think there's a there's a new movie upcoming, uh Johnny English


yes the Mister Bean guy, uh I'm not sure, but I saw the trailer in cinema


ya so I think it's uh it should be a funny show


actually thinking of, going to Kenya, next year


uh yes in Africa, uh I want to, I want to visit Kenya because uh of the, that they have this wildlife migration, yes uh the that means the wildlife will


will travel from one place to another, in a particular season


uh I think it's just a I think they travel across a river, because this migration is called Masai-Mara Migration, so there is this river call Masai-Mara, so I think they will travel across, the river


to another place, ya and I think the river has a lot of crocodiles, so it's risk ya it's very dangerous for the animals


uh yes, they'll be traveling in, a huge population, uh I, I've seen this , they call it wild beast


wildbeest ya something like that, they I've seen the picture they look like, oxes, but I'm not too sure what animals they are


uh I would think so, yes I think they would, oh we will uh we will be in


yes I'm joining the tour, it will be a safari tour, so there will be a there will be a uh safari van, ya so you may get to see uh animals like lions


deers, all kinds of animals leh, I don't think so I I think it's only the vehicle but the vehicle should have


uh fences, uh definitely, dangerous, uh yes I will be getting a travel insurance


uh no I think, I think it's should be, quite popular, I've seen people going before


but it's kind of expensive, the air tickets to, Africa cost minimum thousand, sing dollar, I


I think it's a very long flight, to fly there that's why the tickets are expensive


I think there is sia, and I think Ethiopian airline, but I'm not sure whether it's a direct flight or you have to transit


uh I'm thinking of going in August because the, the ya next year August, because the migration period is, uh somewhere between July to October


ya, correct


I also thought so but I did some research, the temperature is about, twenties, in the day and at night it, force uh, it force to maybe, tenish


ya at night at night is it will be quite cold, ya, maybe , maybe you will feel hotter although it's, in the twenties


maybe you feel hotter, ya, just like in, just like uh my recent trip to, Scandinavia, is ah is it was high twenties but it felt very hot, compared to Singapore


yes I think it felt hotter, than compared to Singapore, uh not not very windy


and they have very few uh, their spaces are open so they have very few shades and trees, uh ya in the city


err no it's just mainly for this (ppb), oh I and I think one of the activities is to visit the, the local tribe, yes, someone actually uh no I think there's only one the indigenous people


so some someone actually ask me whether, the tribes there eat humans (ppb), I don't think they eat humans now, but last time I I


I don't know maybe, but now I don't think so, because they rely on uh, tourist revenue, uh yes


yes I will I will be buying, I think the trip is around, the trip is around eight days


yes I would think so, err but there is not much to do there (ppb) other than


other than witnessing, the, but it's not very safe for you to go alone I think


oh I'm joining, tour group, ya


uh yes probably uh robbery, I think in the city, people do get robbed


yes, uh yes I have I've heard of uh European countries


oh I think a smaller country is easier to manage, we are afraid of the government and, authorities


uh yes


yes uh Australia I like the, I like the sea, the sea view over there


uh yes usually people self drive, but in the city itself , you can also explore you can take the public transport


uh I would think so I use my Google Map, when I'm there, ya so Google Map will show you uh like which bus number to take, or which train, uh which train station


uh ya so if you're going to the, oh I join day tour for, for those places outside the city, uh yes so this


the buses will uh bring you, to the places, uh but they will give you a limit uh let's say they you'll you have to return to the uh, you have to return to a bus, by twenty minutes after you take photos


yes you are correct


and they the driver has to send you back, to the city, yes


they stayed over at the


I see, and I think there are some kind of uh, like caravans, then you can you can drive or cook and sleep in the van, so you just travel on the caravan


uh yes but I I'm not sure about the toilet (ppb), uh maybe you just do it in the forest


uh yes I think New Zealand the air tickets would cost around uh one K plus


oh two thousand that is too much


but you can you can always uh, buy the tickets when you see promotion


I see, true


yes you are a very filial son (ppb), oh ya because I


I wanted to bring them somewhere they have not been to, uh I think so, uh no they don't really they don't


ready understand English, uh yes, and also I book day tours, uh for those day tours I would I book , the drivers are sorry the day tours are in Mandarin


I think it's operated by uh Chinese people in Australia


uh yes because the tour guide will speak in Mandarin, uh usually from China Hong-Kong or Taiwan


uh yes you are correct, uh we visited the Great Ocean Road


uh yes, and also uh Philip island, where we watch the penguin parade, and we, uh ya it's not in, it's in, Victoria the state is Victoria


uh no, uh but it's a long drive away, ya it's a few hours, because we book the day tour


uh no because uh, when we were there my mum fell ill, so we hardly, walk outside, uh yes


uh we stayed in our Air Bnb, so, uh yes, or sometimes I will just uh, buy takeaways and bring back to the Airbnb for them to eat


ya but we can always go again, uh Melbourne, too


ya you can try maybe Perth, uh yes the, the flying time is shorter


oh I did see quite a number of Asians, when I was in Australia, uh yes


uh yes uh my Airbnb, is actually just next to the rmit University, and we saw a lot of Asian students


uh yes (ppb), uh it was okay but there is a basketball court, below


but during night time when we sleep, uh it was, not no not that noisy, ya I think stop I think they stop playing basketball, and I think we close the windows


uh yes, they slept, quite a lot, throughout the trip


uh I think I spend a few hundred, but we took the budget airlines, so it was not that ex ya not that expensive


uh yes because I paid for it myself yes, so it's a times three, thanks for the compliment


auditor in, one of the public accounting firms


okay let's get started (ppb), I'm actually quite curious on, places that you have been to, like where have you traveled to


oh I see I haven't been there I have mostly been to Asia only, uh I have been to, Japan that was the most memorable trip, because it was the furthest that I went, ya and I like Japan because the people there are very friendly and the


streets are very clean, uh what do you like to, oh I visited the, Capital of Japan


which is Tokyo and the, ancient capital which is Kyoto and, the second largest city Osaka, ya and I, went during winter so it was very cold and, I like the cold weather more than Singapore's weather


uh it was, about zero degrees it always fluctuates around, between zero to ten degree Celsius, so it was very cold for me


ya I kept blowing the, the air out because I could


uh how is Okinawa I, want to travel there someday too


oh so interesting so the Japanese also travel to, Okinawa for a holiday


oh because it was near nearer to Taiwan right, oh so how


like what was the temperature there during winter, oh that is quite cooling because and I went to


the Tokyo and Osaka Kyoto region it was like, four five degrees almost everyday, and at night it gets worse, close to zero degree Celsius, so if we don't have heater in the room then it will be very hard to fall asleep


oh sometime he, because of the wind that makes you feel cold not the temperature itself, uh then may I know what is the, Okinawa food over there because I heard that is quite different from


other parts of Japan, oh I see


okay I think it's called, I also not sure , okay, so it when I went to uh Osaka, the famous food there is Takoyaki which is the octopus ball


we also have, octopus ball in Singapore but it is not as delicious as in Osaka, uh because it taste more authentic, I don't know how to explain it but, it taste better than


the, Takoyaki made in Singapore, it is more fresh, I think, uh ya the, the ingredients are more fresh and the dough is, more Japanese


I don't know how to put it , uh when I went, when I went there I also, tasted


various foods like ramen, and sushi and they all are better than, Singapore's Japanese food, actually I think that in, Japan, I will not be able to find any, bad restaurants because


any random restaurant that I went to the food was delicious


oh ya I went I went to Ichiran, for about three times in total during my trip, I went there for about fourteen days but I actually, went there for three times


within the duration so it was very good for me, uh because, the ramen is, very authentic, and we can't find Ichiran in Singapore so they have this


dining, culture in the restaurant where you get to see an individual booth, so you can have privacy and, you can eat alone without getting judged, I think it's a very cool concept because in Singapore


whenever I had to eat alone I would, think twice because I might get judged, uh it's like a, bar concept where you sit, at a individual booth


it's like a bar concept so you sit on a round chair and, there's a, partition in between, and then there is a, table in front of you then there's a curtain in front and


that separates you and the server which will put the food on the table and you can't see the server as well, uh yes and you also, can choose


the kind of noodles that you want and the, spice spice level, of the soup and you can actually, write it on the write it on the paper provided and then pass, it to the server


through the curtain, uh yes we can't see any, person where we are city at the booth so it's, very private


my favourite is the, Tonkotsu, ramen which is the pork bone soup, uh I like it because it is very thick and, flavorful


uh yes and comes with the, Ajitama I think it's called Ajitama it's the egg, the runny yolk


uh how about you, what is your favourite food in Japan, salmon roe as in the eggs


okay uh why do you like them


[orh] and the juice will spill out, uh I see, okay I'm not a fan of salmon roe but I, actually like the raw salmon which is, whenever I visit Sushi restaurants I would order the salmon sashimi


I'm not sure why but I like the raw one instead, instead of the cook one, or the torch one


oh I think I seen it before but they put a mayonnaise on top of it right, oh okay that is acceptable for me but, my favourite is still the raw one


sea grapes


oh so it's actually seaweed


oh ya, oh so you can taste the, freshness of the sea


oh okay so, is it hard to find the, sea grapes in other parts of Japan, because I never heard of them


oh I see, that is cool I will like to visit


oh so it is famous for all the water sports I didn't know I thought it was, scenery and the food only


oh okay but uh, I'm actually not very into water sports because, I don't really like to do, those extreme activities, like banana boat rides because


when I fall into the water I will panic, I mean, I would still feel a bit, unsafe, even when I'm wearing the life jacket, because uh


two years ago I went to Bali and I, took the, banana boat ride and I fell into the water, and I, drop my spectacles inside the water, uh ya after


after a little bit of panicking, and I, search around frantically, then I found it, ya because, when I, drop my glasses I can't see and


I would feel, a bit lost, because I can't see anything, ya the image is blurry, ya but, actually Bali is a very nice place to go to


for relaxation because it is near to Singapore also, uh I think you could go there someday if you are, into the water sports as well, and uh, everybody go


goes there and they stay in a villa so, you can get a bit of luxurious experience living there, uh yes you can book


you can book a villa, and most of the villas there comes with a swimming pool and, uh maybe a sun bed that kind of thing, ya but uh there are a lot of mosquitoes over there so


you should prepare to get bitten a lot, that is cool, actually Bali is a


better than Okinawa for me because it is just, a short plane ride away and, the cost of living there is cheaper as well, mostly we did, water sports


like banana boat which I mentioned earlier and uh there's these things called a, jet pack so you wear something like a, shoes, shoes that are powered by the


boat which, will make you fly up in the air, while you're on while you're in the sea, so when your legs are attach to that, that pack, which is below your, feet then


they will propel you into the air and you have to try and, balance yourself, to stay, in the air if not you will fall into the water, and, ya is something like that, but I actually


could not master it, I don't know why but my sense of balance was quite poor, so I fell into the water a lot of times and, awkward landings, so I got a lot of bruises


on my body, so I actually, would just try it once and I will not, recommend people to, keep going for it because, once is enough for me


oh I see what do you do over there, oh I have heard of windsurfing but what is, stand up paddling


okay


paddle with the something like a, ah ya just I think , ya I think it's call a paddle, so all is okay


is it like the dragon boat or the canoeing kind of, oh I see I have actually tried windsurfing, during my school days but, I don't know about stand up paddling


oh yes uh I could not master windsurfing as well because when I was in school I joined the windsurfing camp, and then we went to, the East-Coast-Park


try windsurfing, and I could not stand up and balance myself on the windsurf, and I keep falling over into the water until I gave up, but then my friends, were able to balance themselves on top of the windsurf and


they subsequently join the cca and, they took, the one star two star and three star courses, to get themselves certified as, windsurfers


oh I think that is a very good accomplishment already, because I could not even stand up for three seconds, I could only count one two then I fell into the water, uh I think better not because my sense of balance is quite poor


as seen from all these water sports, I think I should stay away


oh but I think you also require a very good sense of balance, which I think I am not able to do it, okay speaking of other sports I actually also join the


outdoor adventure club when I was in school, which is known as Odac, and I actually went on the, mountain expedition, twenty sixteen as well


oh I went to Mount Ophir, in Malaysia it is, between Malacca and Johor so it, uh actually covers both, these two areas, and the mountain is about one


one thousand and three hundred meters high, in elevation, so we actually went there for a three day two nights trip, and we use one of the whole afternoon to, climb the mountain to the peak


and then we went down again, and actually I think the climb up is not the, most tiring part the most tiring part is coming down, after we reach the peak because we are all short of energy and, the


yes it was quite steep at times and the, mountain route was not very even in the elevation so, sometimes when we climb up it is a bit, uh uneven and the path is


sometimes very muddy and slippery so, we have to be very careful if not we will fall over, and the, result will be disastrous, because we might fall over and then


yes and we will get, that's why we have, sign an indemnity form before we went for the, expedition


I think trekking shoes will help, to a certain extent but, the road is too slippery and I think we would need a walking stick, in order to climb the mountain but, at that time I was a bit too complacent and I didn't prepare the walking


so when, we descend down the mountain it was a bit of a challenge for, and after reaching, reaching the base, when we finished the climb, my knee was


I couldn't stand up straight at all, so I think when, decide to, climb a mountain you have to be very prepared, mentally and physically, because mentally I thought that it will be very easy


because it is just one thousand and three hundred metres high but, apparently it is, very challenging for someone who has not, being consistently climbing up stairs and, doing all the, exercises that was required before going there


I only went on one training section, which was climbing stairs for, hundred stories before I went, yes only once so I was actually not ready for the, expedition


but I went ahead, but it was a good experience in the end because I, make new friends there and, I conquer a mountain, so I think it was good enough for me, but if you ask me I wouldn't do it again


oh where is Mount Kinabalu, oh I have heard, about the Mount Kinabalu but I think it is not in the Peninsular Malaysia, I heard that it is in the eastern Malaysia


but I not sure where is, and the elevation I think it seems to be higher


oh so that is four times of what I have climb, I think you should get prepare and, be ready because, this


mountain climbing thing is very strenuous, and it is very tiring for your body


oh when do you plan to go for the expedition, May next year so that is about, eight months away


or I think, if it is eight months away there is still enough time, so maybe you could, train progressively and, then increase the tempo when, the period, nears


ya so I think you could, try to uh minor exercises for now, then you could increase, the repetition and the, difficulty level of your exercises, when you are near to the period of expedition


oh I see I have never been there so how long did you take to reach the hill top


at Bukit-Timah


oh so the total duration is forty five minutes, or I didn't know that you could start the trekking at, Dairy-Farm so is it very far, like maybe a few kilometres


oh I see but I think because it is just steps the climb should be, quite gentle and stable, compared to those uh mountain routes and slippery slopes


uh so on the topic of ccas may I know, what was your cca back in school, oh choir that is interesting so you could hit the high pitch notes


uh so was there any interesting thing, that you experience while you were in choir


jc opening ceremony, oh I see so maybe that was like, ten years ago


oh I see so did you go to any competition, while you were in that cca, oh so that was the musical


competition between schools right, because I have heard of like, military bands, uh marching band all, all these, musical cca


oh I see, I was in, the robotics club in my secondary school days, and I went to, a few, school competitions before, and I actually represented


uh Singapore to go to, South Korea for a competition during my, secondary three days, so we went to, Korea


attended this competition held in, a university which I forgot the name, but we actually did not win anything


yes uh I actually had a very good experience because, before that I have never taken a flight out of the, country, and it was to South Korea so I was


pretty excited at the time, it was during January so it was very cold, and, it was the, period with the harshest conditions of winter


so I remember I went there, and when we step out of the airport it was, freezing cold and, I was very surprised by it, I think the temperature back then was, uh maybe negative five to negative ten


ya so it was the worst weather that I have experience, it ya it was snowing when we, went out of the airport


uh actually I think I was, over prepared because I wore, four sets of clothing, so I had the inner wear which was called long johns, then I had a T-shirt, then covering the T-shirt was a sweater and then with the winter clothing so it was four layers


and despite the negative, five to ten degree Celsius I was actually sweating inside, so, on the second day I actually remove my uh T-shirt, so I felt better after that


oh I think you should if you it is a very fun experience, especially if you go with friends because you can, throw the snow at them, I'm not an artist so I'm not very good at this


I just prefer to throw the snowballs at people, so apart from, Norway, the Scandinavian countries and Okinawa Japan, like you have mentioned are there any other places that you have been to


wow, I see that is a, very good place to go which I have been thinking of going to but I haven't had the time and money to go


uhin both Melbourne and Sydney


oh I see, uh what are the interesting things there that you have seen in the cafes, like what sets it apart from the Singaporean cafes


oh deserted place as in uh inaccessible


oh so it's not the common uh roadside store, shop houses that kind of, buildings, oh I see so I think


in Singapore that will not be possible because the land is scarce and it is expensive, so maybe in Australia there are more land, for them to build, gardens and, all these


uh interesting ideas, to build into a cafe


food on their menu that is different from Singapore, oh the usual food


so are there like any special, cakes because I heard of something like the what watermelon cake


oh I see so they put the real fruit, in between the cakes, the sponge cakes, oh that is very interesting do you know how to, make this kind of cake


oh so you do you know how to bake, oh I see so uh, you could bake with a air fryer I didn't know I thought that you have to bake with a microwave oven or something


oh that is cool I didn't know that you could do that, I thought the air fryer was only use for frying stuff, without getting the kitchen too oily


oh yes uh, I think that it is quite a healthy thing to, use the air fryer because, uh the food itself has oil content so it uses the oil, within to, fry it


oh yes I have a similar experience whenever I, bought the, fast food from McDonald's so they will give me the, French fries then when I reach home it became very soggy, so after


that I realise that it was not delicious, so I put it back into the air fryer and air fry it then it became like the, piping hot fries that came out from McDonald's again


oh you mean those ready foods, oh you mean we don't have to do any processing of the packaging like we don't have


uh wash the food and, don't have to do anything to it we just can throw them inside the air fryer, oh I didn't know about this that is so convenient


oh but I think that would stick to the pan right like the skin, or some of the flesh, oh I see but, will that make it difficult for you to do the washing of the air fryer


oh I see that is, very good idea to prevent, the stuff from sticking to the air fryer, oh okay to maintain the


oh I see, so, other than baking do you know how to do any of the, cooking stuff like


other than baking, oh I see so, uh what are the kind of


uh pastries or cakes that you have bake before


oh so, do you think that, it is actually worth it for you to bake instead of buying it or are you baking because of the passion, you have for baking


oh I see so you mean that you could actually, decide what kind of sugar level you want in your food, oh I see bubble tea is speaking of bubble tea do you drink bubble tea often


oh I see, I drink about two times a week and then my favourite is actually, the bubble tea from Koi, I actually am a very traditional person so I go for the


traditional milk tea with pearl, how about you, oh I see but I have heard somewhere, from my friends that the pearls are actually not very healthy


and it is full of sugar, oh I think I should cut down on, eating the pearl


because the pearls, might affect my health, actually not so but I actually eat fast food quite often so


it is already an, unhealthy lifestyle for me, so I will have to eat clean and, maybe drink clean


I actually, don't really like to try the, new burgers from restaurant but the latest one I have tried was from McDonald's, they had launched this new burger call the Ha Ha-Cheong-Gai burger


oh actually the, oh I think the, patty was, made just nice and it had the


very distinctive taste of the prawn paste, and I actually quite like it and I think the, sauce is very complimentary to the, burger, so the burger as a whole taste quite good to me


oh yes, oh yes and they had this promotion, the last time which, I think the whole meal cost about five dollars and ninety five cent


so it was very worth it, in terms of monetary sense, uh yes with the, just a medium fries and without upsize so if you upsize you have to add another


fifty cents I think, and I think that at five dollars and ninety five cents it is very worth it, and that time during the promotion I actually, ate the Ha Ha-Cheong-Gai burger meal, for three consecutive days


uh I actually, felt sick after that and I had to stop eating that, because I was working long hours as well because my job is in, auditor, so I had to work overtime a lot and we would call food delivery from McDonalds to deliver that


Ha Ha-Cheong-Gai burger meal to me, yes I think so too but, fast food is very convenient especially for us people who have no time to go out and buy dinner


so when we so we will have to order delivery, and we would have to, order fast food because they are simply, prepared faster, uh yes


oh is it like the two piece chicken but it becomes the grilled chicken, oh I see


uh I think I have seen it on tv too, but, I haven't had the time to try it, oh I have heard from my friends as well that


they actually taste not bad, and I think I would try it later, okay sure, I have also seen a new product from kfc it's called the, Torikatsu burger


I think it was, a bit influence by the Japanese, yes I think so, because I remember the slogan is called, made with respect eat with respect


ya, oh really I didn't know, so what is the Takoyaki sauce I am actually not sure


is it like the the brown sauce with the mayonnaise, or at the oh I see so that is called the Takoyaki sauce, uh I'm not sure


maybe mayonnaise and brown sauce , oh yes


oh Thai milk tea yes is my favourite too but it is a bit too sweet, oh will it taste good if it is not sweet because as far as I remember


the Thai milk tea, always taste sweet, oh I see because I mostly had Thai milk tea when I visited Thailand, so in Thailand


people drink Thai milk tea and, yes we do not we do not get to choose the sugar level that we prefer, so we always get the standard Thai milk tea which is, very very sweet, and while they were preparing we could see that they keep on pouring the condensed milk


into the cup, so it was actually supposed to be black tea, and milk, but they make it to become orange colour, so it was, we could actually tell that they, did pour a lot of condensed milk


to make the colour change


oh I see and the colour looks nice too I like the green colour, oh so where do you normally go to buy the Thai milk tea in Singapore, because I think is quite rare to find it


oh I see I think I have seen it, it is, uh the red colour symbol with a hand right, with a hand sign, oh I I think so I think that is the brand


oh I see where is your office, I would like to go there and drink it someday too


oh I see, okay I think I should go there and try it someday, maybe tomorrow


oh yes I think I have heard of Tuk-Tuk-Cha, I have also seen them hiring Thai people to serve, because when I ordered from them, they were speaking Thai to me


uh I think so but, I don't think I look like Thai but they still speak Thai to me, yes, okay so I actually tried their food before and I think they taste not bad


but, uh is a bit too expensive for me, yes in, yes in Thailand maybe I could order a, uh Tom-Yum Prawn


for maybe, four dollars or five dollars, in Singapore dollars, but when I order at the Tuk-Tuk-Cha maybe they will cost me ten dollars, so it is very high


yes uh and, so I decided not to eat there so often, because I have to save money


oh I see, then how much does a cup of Thai milk tea cost at Tuk-Tuk-Cha, uh I think it is quite affordable, because when I bought the Thai milk tea in Thailand it cost about two dollars Singapore dollars as well


uh yes I think so I think is the same size, so have you been to Thailand often


oh Bangkok, do you go there for shopping, oh so, oh so you went there for a food holiday


you mean, oh you meet in Bangkok, oh I see


oh I see, I have also seen, celebrities introducing Bangkok on tv, but they went there more for the adventures, instead of food, uh I think they went, to a place that was near to Bangkok but it is not there


I think the place was called, Khao-Yai, yea, yes I think they, there is a place there that looks like, uh Asian European city


and I think there is a, uh> wine, wine distillery or something over there or is it a wine farm, oh yes yes I think so


oh really have you seen an alpaca before, oh really, oh so there is a alpaca cafe in Taiwan I didn't know


oh do they affect you while you are eating, uh so means you have to take care


of your bag, if not they will, bite on it, or will they chew your food as well, uh then what do they eat normally if they do not chew on your food


oh I see then do we have to pay for the vegetables, in order to feed the alpacas, enter the cafe


I see so it is like a compulsory thing to, order from the restaurant in order to interact with the alpacas, oh I see


so you mention that there were only two alpacas in the restaurant, outside as in the backyard or, oh I see


oh then, if the alpacas are in the restaurant, do they stink as well do they stink the whole restaurant, uh so only the clean ones are allowed in the restaurant


so the dirty ones are abandoned outside, oh I see, I would like to visit there too so is the, price of the food and drinks at that cafe expensive


uhabout, what kind of range of price, oh I sees but do what are the, kinds of food they serve are they similar to the normal cafe food


oh so it is more like a western restaurant, setting


oh I see okay, so, uh so they actually, do not serve fantastic food but they have alpacas so people go there, oh so is the restaurant very crowded


oh so, it was fully seated so do you have to make a reservation, to go there or you can just walk in and try your luck


uh but they look and speak local, oh I see so it is not very well known throughout the world yet


oh I see, so uh you mentioned that that place was in Dan-Shui, so was that in Taipei as well


oh I see I have heard of Dan-Shui but I did not know, what other interesting sites are there, oh I I think I seen it somewhere is it like a bridge


a very big bridge, oh you only went there for the alpaca cafe, so it was more like a day trip there, to eat and then go back


oh interesting so, what other things did you do when you went to Taiwan


oh He-Huan-Shan where was it


!woah! that was very cool, did you prepare enough clothing for that climb, uh so was it enough to fight the cold


oh because you didn't have gloves, oh yes I personally experienced that when I went to Japan during the winter as well


once I whip out the phone the phone dies in five minutes, yes uh so, you mention that you went to He-Huan-Shan so was it, in Taipei


oh is it very far away, oh I see, uh okay so was


the He-Huan-Shan very high up, as in the elevation of the mountain, oh yes, so did you trek up or you (ppb)


orh so the mini van drove you up, the mountain, is it like during midnight or something, to catch the sunrise


oh so if, you gathered at four plus am, into the mini van to drive up the mountain, so where what time was the sunrise approximately


oh so the drive was a short one it was about one hour plus, oh I see but, I see so was the ride up very bumpy


oh so there was like a, route, oh I see, because uh, I actually went to, Vietnam, two months three months back, I went to this mutinous region called Sabah


so, I went on a trip to Sabah from Hanoi, so it was about, four to five hours, bus right, per way, and


once we reach the base of the Sabah mountain it was very bumpy up, yes by the coach, it was not exactly bumpy, in normal road condition, but during that time it was very rainy and


I heard that the pace eh, experience a much slight, so I was actually fortunate to avoid the, natural disaster over there, because we, experience a traffic jam for about


one hour when we were at the base, because the, road personnel there was clearing the, mud residue on the road


yes uh, because I, did not buy travel insurance at that time, so it was kind of risky so i have learned a lesson, to buy my travel insurance next time


oh yes, oh yes, my friend actually, had damage his luggage when it, came out of the


belt, at the airport, so he manage, to claim, for his insurance, and the claim amount was, quite substantial, I think it was about five hundred dollars


yes, yes but his luggage was like, one hundred dollars, so he actually, made a profit out of, so I think it is very important to buy a travel insurance


oh because the wheel was spoiled, so he had to, leave it out and walk around with, the luggage


yes uh it was, about ten kg and he ask me to help him also, but, I was not very, willing to help because I could not get the amount that he can get through insurance, so I ask him to


treat me a meal, but I said it jokingly, I was not being serious about it, no also , he did not bother as well, yes


okay so actually when we went to, this, place in vietnam, we actually went to Hanoi, so we also visited the Halong Bay, have you heard of Halong Bay


[Oh] yes the view is very gorgeous, yes I also forgot the name of the movie


uh I'm not too sure about it, but the backdrop is, uh worthy of a movie scene, yes uh we, actually went to this, Halong Bay for a two day one night trip


and we stayed over the night on the cruise ship, yes so it was, very refreshing and I have never experience that before, so we actually


reach the, pier at Halong Bay, then we transferred onto a cruise, and then we, went to explore Halong Bay on a cruise, so the cruise actually draft


drop us off at a cave, and then we explored that cave, and we came out and then we went to, another island, that was nearby Halong Bay, and then we also went for kayaking around the island


so it was, a very good, trip, to explore the scenery over there, yes


oh it was very stable I had a very good night sleep, it was not shaky at all


yes you it's quite, smooth, and, from our room we could , we could see the, views outside, so it was, very


stunning as well we could actually take in the view, from our room, and not having to go out, uh yes it is on board


so, the room is quite basic, but I think, eh, the tour guide and the staff on the boat, are very, customer oriented


uh yes we had all three meals on board, and we were, we were treated to the local meals, like


uh white rice and, a few traditional Vietnam dishes, like the Vietnamese spring roll, yes uh they like to use herbs


uh within their dishes so, we had this coriander thing in the spring roll, and, I think, for coriander is either you like it or you hate it


so it's more of a, acquired taste for some people, so I actually quite like coriander so it was fine for me, but my friend actually, uh was really picky about food so he had to pluck out all the corianders


and by the time he was done plucking everyone already finish eating, yes uh but he doesn't care, because he, just doesn't like the coriander


oh we also had Pho, I believe you know what is Pho is the, the rice noodle soup, then with uh, piping hot soup and they, put the raw beef slices inside, to cook inside the soup


they have chicken as well but uh most people eat beef, because uh I think chicken was not that tasty, in the Pho, most people prefer beef


and it was very cheap, it is about, two to three Singapore dollars for one big bowl of Pho, and food in Hanoi is, very affordable


we only brought about two hundred dollars, there, for yes for, eight days, and we still had leftover when we came back


eh yes it's more on food and coffee, because there is a very popular coffee culture in Vietnam so we tried the coffee there, yes uh they have this


very famous egg coffee in Hanoi, egg coffee is actually like, coffee at the bottom, and then, they actually beat the egg in the machine


like cream, and then maybe they put something like vanilla, inside or something so it taste sweet, so it is coffee at the bottom and the beaten egg, so it's like a, sweet drink on top and


the bitter drink at the bottom, so it is, quite cool, uh no you just drink it like you drink macchiato, so you just drink it like that you don't mix the


so you get the distinct flavours I mean that is what I heard lah, I'm not sure of the real way to drink it, uh is I don't think it is wrong, but I have never seen them


beaten the egg, so I not sure, if it is raw or cooked


oh yes, uh yes like a bit, yes yes a bit gooey right


oh I see I also like to eat this kind of eggs too but, it is getting expensive in Singapore, to eat this kind of breakfast set


oh so that includes a, oh I see that is pretty expensive, uh I would like to but I don't have a toaster at home


I think the toasted bread is, the most important, part of that breakfast set yes


normal pan, as in uh I fry it, oh I see, oh that's, that is a good advice I think I will try it someday, when I have time


oh yes speaking of Kaya I think I have, eaten those Kaya that is very sweet and not flavourful Kaya before, do you have any, experience


oh I see, yes uh but there is one, particular time when I had the Kaya and, did not have the Kaya flavor at all so it was, a fraud to me


yes and I don't know what the taste was, it was thought Kaya, uh no, not even close


yes yes that was very sad, and, from then on I became, very picky about Kaya, uh I don't really drink coffee


I'm not a, coffee lover, but I tend to drink tea more like milk tea, yes because, I think, drinking coffee will make me go to the toilet more often


because I had past experience with this, so I drank coffee and then I went to the went to the toilet, many times, uh yes yes like my stomach is not


very conditioned to coffee, so when I whenever I drink coffee sometimes I will get stomach pain, oh yes, and I do not experience that with drinking tea so I


actually prefer drinking tea, oh yes you know about it, uh yes


oh I see, I normally, make my own milk tea at home with the tea bag, but I think when you drink the, tea made from the tea leaf it taste different, yes uh it is more


concentrated, yes uh I actually like the taste of the, tea made outside, but, uh I have to be


cost efficient, so I actually, mostly make my own tea at home with the teabags, I normally drink the Lipton tea


yes, yes uh and, maybe very seldom I would drink the Dilmah tea, Dilmah is the the green colour label, oh yes yes that's the country


which made the Dilmah brand, oh do you know anything about Sri-Lanka


oh I see but I would have a bit of reservations about going there, because it is a bit far from home and I don't speak the language, I'm not too sure


uh maybe but I have, not a very good impression of Sri-Lanka, because of, what I have studied about them last time in my secondary school days, that was in social studies


uh yes there is some tension there, so I a bit apprehensive, yes, uh speaking of, travelling, and you mention that you went to Taiwan last time


so what other interesting things, that you did in Taiwan


or is that one of the, oh yes yes I heard of it too, oh that is cool but, oh I see because she is


a, quite advance in age, so maybe she could not take the, trekking, oh I see


oh so it did not have a clear path, oh I see so


what prompted you to make, a your mother do this


oh so it was not anticipated, oh I see so


when you brought your mother there for holiday did she enjoy the trip, oh so she was purely there for


enjoying, I see, so oh, do you have any plans to bring her overseas, in the near future


yes because uh they are quite advanced in age, so maybe they should, travel within a tour group, it may be more relaxing for them, oh I think so too


yes I actually haven't had a chance to bring my parent, for overseas trips, and I actually want to do it soon because, they are getting older as well, so I do not want to, wait too long because by then they might


have difficulties, moving about already, I currently do not have anything in mind but I'm actually saving up, to bring them and, travel with me


oh really, oh where do you recommend


me to bring my parents in Malaysia, oh I see sounds like


sounds like a good plan, but, I'm also a bit ambitious, so I think, I would actually try to bring them to further places, but not too far, like maybe within the Asia region


but I haven't have a country in mind yet, oh yes, I think China is good too, and


yes uh and, I think my parents would be happy to visit their, ancestors hometown too, if we ever go there, but I think in China


there are, a lot of restrictions to what we can do because, we could not freely use internet over there, we have to use something like, a vpn I think


oh I have, been there once but it was very long ago, but I have heard that, uh everything there, they do not use cash for payments anymore


I think they use, qr code for payment such as, Ali pay and WeChat pay, so I'm not too sure, yes so I'm not sure if I should


change my money to Renminbi, in cash or I should use the, Ali pay and WeChat pay, uh yes I would, definitely change some


spare cash if I go there, but uh I have, nothing confirm yet so I would maybe continue with, my planning so maybe I would, yes I will save up first and then I will decide on


where to bring my parents to, I think I should also ask them where they want to go, because I, I think bringing them on a trip I should also, uh consider their views like where they want to go so that they can enjoy more


on their trip, oh yes but in Japan I think there is a lot of walking involved


yes uh, I was thinking of a self drive holiday but I do not have a driving license, I think I should get one first before, planning a self drive holiday, I think


it is a very good experience to rent a car and, drive around to visit, different attractions so we have control of our own time and, do not have to plan, to take


any transport at, any specific time, and we do not have to follow a very strict, and fixed schedule, in order to not miss any transport


wow the waiting time is surely long, oh I see, when I was in Japan, during my holiday, I also had to wait for maybe


thirty to forty five minutes, when I miss a bus, but the thing is, the, bus really came on time, and, according to the, time table, maybe the bus was suppose to come at


ten o-clock, so I reach there at ten ten zero two, the bus is already gone, ya that was, forty five minutes, and my whole


uh my whole itinerary for that day was delayed, and, yes so I had to have late dinner, in order not to miss any of the activities planned for that day, but dinner


I had planned dinner at a restaurant, so I had to forgo that restaurant meal, and then I settle my dinner at a, family mart


yes I had to settled my dinner at a convenience store, but then, because, the food at the, convenience store is actually, quite satisfactory to me I think the food there is actually not bad


yes uh the packaged food is, bento sets but


they allow you to microwave it, to heat it up and then, when you eat it it taste, it doesn't taste like, processed packaged food, it actually tasted like normal food


so I think that is quality, in convenience store food


oh I see, or do they taste actually, similar to cafe breakfast


oh I see, I had actually seen, on the internet somewhere that there is this, uh souffle souffle cake


that was very jiggly and, uh how do I explain it it is very, ya fluffy yes it is very fluffy and, uh when you shake the plate, the souffle cake will also shake


really (ppb), uh I'm not too sure uh, oh is it I just think that it looks very, delicious, and I regret that I didn't had a chance to try it


oh yes, I went there and, actually that time I, din did not remember to try that


souffle cake, or was it that one that you mention


oh I see so was it like something like, open kitchen concept, oh I see


oh savoury pancakes, uh what type of savoury pancakes do they have, oh I see that sounds quite refreshing


oh it's like the usual sweet pancakes, like, maple syrup that kind


[orh] so it is more healthy, oh I see


it looks colorful too I think, when I go back to Japan I will certainly visit that place, to get my souffle pancake fixed


so when you visited, Okinawa, did you do any special, uh sightseeing or activities, that could not be found elsewhere


oh I have heard of the aquarium, but it is is it really very, uh exceptional compared to the, Sentosa Underwater World


oh Whale Shark, oh I see so you could get to see them up close, oh I see I have also heard that


the aquarium in Okinawa has, the most variety of, sea live creatures, is that very true


oh they have lobsters in the aquarium, do they have, oh I see, do they have any price on it


yes uh I'll actually, sorry I was actually hungry


oh I see do they have different types of turtle as well, oh I see


I think, is it like outdoor


oh I see, is it like dolphins jumping through the hoops


wow that is cool, wow that is quite fascinating, I have also heard, about


an activity in, Okinawa which is called whale watching, yes


oh I see, oh have you, went for have you gone for any whale watching before


oh Sydney, that is cool, oh I heard that it is rare to spot whales, while you are on the boat


for whale watching


oh so it is, small group


oh I see then would the whales attack your boat


oh I see so when they, uh splash their tails against the water, did all the water get splash on to the boat


[orh] so they actually react to the cheers, oh how many whales did you spot, oh only two, is it considered many


oh yes, because uh I have also heard that, whale watching is a, yes it is not hundred percent guaranteed that you, get to spot a whale, so it is more like a luck activity


which is close to the, the winter period


[orh] so it is like spring, when it gets warmer, I think, oh I see, maybe I should consider to bring my parents


on a activity like this like whale watching, so it is more, relaxing for them, maybe I would, organize


a treat for them to be on a, big cruise or something, or because they are more, [orh] it is like a choppy


right thing, so I think I will, consider bringing them for such an activity, yes because I think they have never seen whales before too


oh I see then what is the penguin parade, I I've not I have never heard of that


oh I see so it's like a watching an army of penguins, moving around together, oh I see that sounds very interesting


maybe I can consider to bring my parents there as well, but I don't think my, mother would like it because she likes to take pictures, she is a, she is very crazy about taking pictures


she likes to take pictures a lot, yes she can, look at the penguins but I think, she likes to take pictures of herself with the penguins


so I, oh really, I think I will have to exclude this activity then, I think she would like it as well


I think she likes to take pictures with everything, yes, I think she likes, to take pictures a lot but, she is a little bit too obsessed about it


because when we, when we went out for, dinner, she always wants to take pictures, she would take a while before she starts eating


me too so I did not care about her and I already started eating, but she will keep on calling me to take pictures for her, no I rejected her


because I was hungry, so I had to eat first, maybe, I could, consider bringing her to see the whales, because I think photography is allowed


for whale watching, I mean she could try her luck, but I'm, yes but I don't think she will get it


yes, yes I think so too, and maybe, if I ring her on this, uh ride to see the whales, maybe she would stop using her phone so often


because it might, she might drop the phone yes, maybe it is a good thing to bring her there so, I can, stop her from using her phone to take pictures so often


yes I think so too, okay so, in your free time do you watch any, movies or tv or dramas


oh I have heard about it, it is a very famous, series but I have never had the time to watch it, oh I see but I have heard that that, are a lot of seasons


to this series right, oh I see, do you know what the show is about actually


oh so is about uh, power, so is more like a, competition, to eliminate all your competitors


so it's more like a, it also, includes betrayal


during my free time actually I only watch uh variety shows, uh nowadays I only watch the Korean variety show, yes yes that is Running Man, it is very popular for


Singaporeans, oh I watch it every week, when the new episode is launched, yes it is, a very funny and


the cast the crew have, uh very good, rapport with each other, so I think their chemistry is very good, and they always, make me laugh


especially there is a crew member called Kwang-Soo, he is like the joke of the, he always, he always makes me laugh with his, unluckiness and


yes yes, but he apparently is the, prince of Asia because, uh whenever they went overseas for shooting he has a lot of fans welcoming him, yes that is very unexpected


but I think, he receive, such love from the fans because, he always make people laugh, unwittingly or, purposely, but I think it is more about unwittingly


because he always, he always, very unlucky, and he always loses in those luck game, like he there was a time when


uh each person have to crack an egg, on their forehead, and there is only one raw egg, then, everybody crack, the egg on their, forehead and it was hard, then when he crack the egg on his


forehead, the raw egg just flow down his face, it has it is very funny, and, whenever they play the popping pirates game do you know popping pirates, the one in the


the one in, it's something like a board game so you insert a sword into a, insert a sword into a, hole, there are a lot of holes so there is only one hole when you insert the sword, the pirate will pop up


then, whenever they play that game, so, it has happened a few times already when, Kwang-Soo started the game, he made the pirate pop at the first try, and he loses the game straight away


he is quite a loser I think , yes, then, that is but he he, but he is very good in these kind of variety show because he is more about making people laugh


so I think he has done well, what do you normally like to do in your free time


oh I see, oh I see


that is very cheap that is like a student price, oh that is very worthy, what show did you watch most recently


oh the Nun, what is it about, oh is the like a ghost movie, oh I see


uh but, I don't think you are, easily scared right, oh that is very good but I think this kind of movies are not exciting enough for you


because you don't get scared easily, I think you have a very strong mind, when I watch horror movies, I think I will get scared


oh yes I think I have actually, an experience of watching a horror movie in the cinema and I heard people crying, I think, that person should not come and watch because


she is disrupting the whole, cinema, so people, people get the extra sound effect of people crying, when they were suppose to be enjoying the movie, they heard something extra, I think it is not very nice


I'm not too sure but, I'm not too sure but she was sitting right behind me


yes, I turned back to stare at her so I am quite sure she is a human, yes


oh the one featuring Tom Cruise, I heard that he does all the stunts by himself


oh I see I haven't had a chance to watch the movie maybe I should catch it soon, oh I see, there was a scene that he actually drove the helicopter, and then he jump out of the helicopter right


okay, oh I see


wow I cannot imagine him doing this, but he actually did it without a stunt man, then he's very impressive, yes I think he is about my mother's age


oh that is very close, but my mother can only take pictures, (oh), yes I think so too my mother likes to sing maybe that is her strength


yes she always sings at home, I find it very nice, I find her singing very good, oh yes she did but I have not attended any


because I was busy, uh that one I'm not too sure but she, brought home a few, trophies, I have seen the trophies, so I assume that she has won something


yes, yes, uh, I have not watched any movies, lately, but I have watched a movie trailer, it is actually not a movie trailer


but it's more like a parody, it was by Michelle Chong, yes, he, came out with the parody of the Crazy-Rich-Asians, eh I think it was very funny, yes


oh you watch the real movie too, how was it, how was the storyline


oh I see so was the girl an ordinary girl, with a ordinary background, oh I think that is quite reputable


oh of equal standing right, so that is more like a uh family theme, I could not remember the most recent movie that I have watched


uh not, in the past few years, I think the most recent I watch was, Ah-Boys-to-Men, and that was very long ago


yes I watch that movie yes I watch the movie when I was, serving in the military, so I could really resonate with the, show, yes, I think it shows a lot about the


hardships and challenges that soldiers face, and it is very relevant to me at that time, so I had a lot of, feelings from watching it


bun but I have already forgotten the detail of the movie, I think the only memorable thing that I remember was that, they have a lot of product placement, like like advertisements from the sponsors


I remember a scene when they were, doing face wash, in the toilet and then, it was, put very boldly that, that face wash was from a certain brand


uh I, I think that it was the Nivea face wash, yes yes, you should uh watch it again if you want to find out the, product placement I think it was very obvious


oh yes okay I think so too, oh the funny guy the Mister Bean oh I see


what was the, when is the movie coming out are you are you aware, oh yes I saw that in, on channel five they also started playing


the previous versions of Johnny English movie too, yes yes I will, definitely be sure to watch it, I think this will be the first movie that I watch


after all these years, what do you, what do you plan, where do you plan to go for your next holiday


oh Kenya is it in Africa


oh I see wildlife migration, oh I see


so they actually, travel from


so they have to, go through a river for the migration, oh isn't that dangerous, but are the animals going to do the migration by themselves


oh I see, so what are the animals that are going to migrate


wild beasts, east, wild beasts, [orh] so actually I think they are the herbivores right


oh I see so it is very dangerous for them because they might get eaten up by the crocodiles, so how are you going to witness it, if you are there


is there a tour showing, oh I see so, oh so you are also getting up close and personal with all these animals


so they're, there are no, glass glass walls or any cages that, that separate you and the wildlife, oh I think


I think you should get a travel insurance for this, because it sounds very dangerous and extreme, I see because I have, actually heard of this activity but only in South Africa


I have not heard about Kenya having this activity, is it like, (ppb) not very mainstream


oh I see so, this is actually my first time, uh hearing of this, so actually, I think is a very exciting thing to do, and I might consider it to do, this sometime in the future


is it very far from here, or is it very rare for airlines to fly there


oh I see, are there any direct flights to Kenya because I think, I have not heard of any people flying there so it might be


oh they fly to, Kenya, oh I see, oh okay, so when do you plan to go to Kenya


you mean next August, July to October so it is in the summer


okay do you think (ppb) it will be very hot over there, because, in my impression Africa temperatures are very dry and


oh it's very cooling actually, [orh] it is different from Singapore, I think Singapore is very humid


or because, because it is very dry over there


or did it feel even hotter than Singapore weather, so there was a very minimal


so, orh so, there is not a lot of greenery around


so what other activities do you plan to do in, so you


the local tribe, so there are actually a lot of tribes there


oh so you are actually taking a risk, they used to eat humans


oh I see so I think you should definitely get a travel insurance, in case you get eaten up too, I see so how long do you plan to go there for


eight days, so it is, it should have you should have enough time for all this activities, but do you think that it will be very wasteful if you go to


such a far away place and only stay for eight days, [orh] how about nearby Kenya are there any nearby countries


that are interesting, oh yes, oh you are planning to go there alone, oh I see I think you would be safer if you travel with a tour group


because if you are alone there is a higher chance that you, might get into any, incidents, yes uh so is, Kenya safe


I think it is quite common, because I have heard that, in many cities there are a lot of thieves and pickpocket and


robbers, oh yes they are very notorious, cause the uh safety level there is not very, high and unlike Singapore we


which is very safe, I think so too, and, the people here are more


yes because the law here is very tight, I think my next vacation I would, like to travel to somewhere that I have never been before, I think maybe Australia


because after hearing from your, sharing about Australia it makes me very interested, yes I think it would be very beautiful as well and I


heard that, if you go to Australia it would be best if you have a driver's license, so you could have a self drive tour


so within the city it is, convenient to travel by public transportation, oh I see


oh that is good news, because I don't have a driving license, but then I have, seen my friends who have been there, they mostly posted pictures of, places that are not in the cities


would like, like the Great Ocean Route, oh so how was it, was it very, satisfactory, or was he very rush


oh I see that is, uh very that's a normal thing if you travel with tour groups you don't get the freedom, to do, the stuff that you want to do and you don't get a lot of time, because you are rushing to different places


oh yes, oh because it was a day trip right, because I have friends who went for the self drive tour they actually, left the city and


drive out, yes and they stayed outside, at some homestay, or they rented Air-bnb, outside the city, so it it was like a, rented


rental of a, apartment outside at the small town, which they were passed by, when they drive to other places


oh yes, so you they will do everything on the caravan, oh okay, yes I think that part is


very weird because there is no place to dispose of the waste, okay then I also think that I would like to visit New-Zealand


but I think New-Zealand is more expensive because it is further away, oh yes I have done a, brief search before and I have seen


on peak periods, uh and, a return air ticket to New-Zealand will cost two thousand and two hundred, dollars, yes, that is, too expensive and


there is no budget airline that operates between Singapore and New-Zealand so I think, there is no choice


uh yes I, keeping a lookout, but so far I have also not have enough money for that so, I will just take it slow and see how it goes, I think the most important thing, on my agenda is to save up enough money to bring my parents on a holiday first


I think I can, I think I can save up for the places that I want to go later, yes because uh, I think it is important for me to bring my


parents overseas while they still can and let my mother take more pictures, I think that is, it is very important to, let her be happy


I believe you are too, because you brought your parents to Melbourne, did they enjoy the trip there, oh so do they


uh speak English and, so basically you were the translator for them as well


oh I see I didn't know there was a tour like that, I think that is very good because, there won't be any language barriers, between your parents and the tour guide


so are most of the, people in the tour group from China


may I know where did you, go with your parents on that trip like any, places of interest


oh that was the place I was talking about, oh Phillip Island, oh I see is it like outside the mainland


do you have to take a boat out, oh I see, is it very far away like how many hours of drive, oh okay


did you visit the, uh cafe that time, oh that is unfortunate


so uh you mean spending time, uh outside of the tour activities staying in the, hotel, oh I see, so you didn't get much time to explore the place as well


I see that is a waste, yes I think so too


maybe I will bring my parents there as well, uh maybe not, but maybe other places in the country, yes I think that is a very popular place


because it is nearest to Singapore, as compare to other cities, yes I I think there are a lot of, Singaporeans who had migrated there so I think we can see


some familiar faces there, like, Asian looking people, oh that is cool, I, I heard that in Melbourne there are a lot of uh


Asian students that was studying there, because I personally also have a few friends who went there to, study in the universities


wow that is cool that is that was my school, I came from that school, oh yes, a lot of Asian study at the rmit University


and I think uh, staying beside a campus will it be very noisy, so you could hear a lot of the ball bouncing


at night, so they actually stop the activities there or they, oh I see


yes because uh your parent was sick, and I think they need rest, so it is important to, not have any noises


oh that is quite a waste because, I think a trip to Melbourne is actually quite expensive, oh so I think it was not that bad


but I think in total it was still cost quite a fair bit, you're paying for three people, yes I think that is a very, good job


hi, hi Merrily


I'm working as an engineer, in a French company, in the east of Singapore, uh basically my role is


uh continuous improvement engineer, and is a, company level, kind of, role where I were, I will, try to understand what is the difficulties that the


company is facing like such as, the pain point , so from there we try to fine tune, and optimise and and implement new ideas, to improve the company's uh manufacturing situation


hi, hello, hi Merrily


what are you working as


how's how how is it, uh so far how long have you been working there, for ten years already wow, it's a long time


so, uh are you looking, at uh other other jobs


neuro, so


it's quite it it it's quite interesting I've I've, I have working I've work on, on some uh energy savings uh project such as, uh installing such as uh trying to implement


uh solar solar panel systems, harness the the sun's energy, and convert it into electrical energy for use in our factory, so we base on the current electrical electricity consumption


uh and then we from there we will access how much, how what kind what is the how many panels and the size of the system that we need, thank you thank you so


other than that, oh it's not very long it's like only two years, ya but during these two years I've also learn quite a lot things because it's a


uh very different role from what I used to work at, so some other


so k thank you, okay so talking about, what was, what was the best


okay


what kind of uh Korean food has got a a wide range, I I I know there's like, uh rice there's like ramen noodles, and there's also some


(ppb) I'm sorry, bibimbap


company, have have a try


uh okay okay so, who who did you bring, along


talking about this, I'm also a food lover, ya me, and my, my wife to be, also likes to have uh likes to enjoy some, uh comfort food


okay so normally, normally is that, there are some, some I mean, we can't I for for me I don't have like, uh restaurant food for everyday lah is is not like everyday lunch or dinner but


more on the hawker hawker food, and uh Kopitiam, in Singapore, ya hawker centre, so, some of the local is some of the local favourites of, that I like is uh


Hokkien Mee ah Char-Kway-Teow ah, then the list, yes, so, I


ya satay is also nice I also like that is a, ah rojak is also yes is also nice, so there's really a a wide variety of choice, K


and the most memorable meal that I had, is with my, uh wife to be, she love to eat, this, uh steam chicken, which wrap in the


cabbage, and add some, is call, Soup Restaurant, San-Zhong-Liang-Jian, ya the Soup Restaurant


yes, and it's really the chicken is is, it is a steam chicken, and the the garlic sauce is super good, when you mix with when you go go together with it


ya, so, my wife to be love that and we sometimes we will go there but not, all the time ya, like I said is not, everyday lunch or dinner


ya, and the ginger sauce, is at the airport #Changi#-Airport


ya, one of the terminal, two, she's at terminal two located, so they have it there and we went to have it once


uh Japanese food, ya we we also love Japanese food, like ramen, yes, okay how about you


what's the memorable meal that you had, and where do you have it


ah the atmosphere


[orh] so just now you were mentioning, the Hello-Kitty cafe, oh is it something new, or is it very new I've never heard of it, K


okay, oh they only started, operating in Singapore not long ago, wow


oh really, okay , okay, that is very good information, and I think I will really want to bring, my wife to be to the Hello-Kitty cafe


uh no I don't I don't drive but, I I can drive, ya but I don't drive


oh talking about cars I think is, a guy's dream it's every guy's dream, to, to have a, uh is a like a toy big boys toy okay for guys


guys like cars a lot for me personally, ya I have I have some dream cars, and I have also like to have some, I mean uh what do you call, cars that we use normally on a daily basis


so my my preference my preference to car is my dream car is a, is a Subaru, Forester, but in Singapore


uh is very popular also is very popular among youngsters, okay


okay, now uh let's discuss something about like holidays, so do you like holidays, okay


ya me too I also like holidays, so let's talk about, your holidays, where have you travelled to


causeway, but but just talking about Malaysia Malaysia also have, have also quite far like North side of Malaysia, ya okay Penang is


okay, nice, okay


ya the the egg


Tim-Ho-Wan , oh okay, so, over there is more, more


net more like to the local taste


wow, mandarin


okay


yes, okay, Gao-Xiong is the on the south of Taiwan


oh countdown the New Year and the Christmas countdown


oh, okay, oh, oh uh crispy, uh crispy fried fried style chicken you know


and, ya ya and you know the they have this , they have this this call, uh oyster


ya Mee-Sua


braise pork, rice, okay okay okay I see I see


[orh] okay when it's more, cooling uh, uh Singapore is is very humid it's very hot, so maybe over there the temperatures how your temperatures the temperature like, ah okay okay


okay so is is more cool, wow, and it's also more comfortable to travel in the in that kind of weather as well, okay


okay, Korea okay which you want to see a bit of Korea, uh Korea there's there's, quite a big it's quite a big place


to do some research first, okay, now is my, wow okay


I have traveled, to, some places as well mostly in South East Asia, South East Asia, uh apart from like like yourself uh Malaysia


uh Indonesia, and I also have I also went I also uh I also, tried I also travel to Taiwan before I travel to Taiwan the longest I've spend there is one month, because I'm doing my nationals my army training


ya so it's because of my army training that we're we went there for the exercise, ya, then


ya then you can also tour around, but it's not nice to carry you wear your your uniform and carry so many things to walk around


ah yes this there is there is, and other than that uh, I been to, China China I've been to a few places because, previously I used to work there, so I use to work in the in the small, small town small county


so is a is, there's not many not many uh not many entertainment not, a lot of commercial activity, uh is Southern China


ya Southern China in one of the small small city, is a very small city, ya, and the factory is there so I I I was working there, so but that place uh because I spend a lot of time there


and he also creates, uh more the the life in the small city, is busy as well but not as busy, as like in Singapore whereby, uh people are rushing and rushing and rushing over there we also rush and rush and rush


but uh we, we not so not as bad as like in Singapore, yes , and


yeah , and, in Singapore because transportation most I will say that, uh transportation mostly is using public, so, a lot of people, travel, take some time to travel like one hour one and half


uh to work and then one and half one hour or one and half hour back to home again, so in, in this it makes the travelling also makes people a bit, uh tired ah, like this


then other than China, uh Taiwan Malaysia, ya ya


China is very big, so sometimes uh, the boss will, give, you some assignment, and ask you to go for some uh seminar, uh exhibition to go and collect information collect data


find find out more things, about, what's new in the market, so that we can, uh do something or in do some improvements, to the current practice, so I've been to places like uh capital city in uh Beijing


ya, and also uh the Qingdao, yes, oh-my-god it is talking about local food it is so


so many, uh so many choice, spoilt, ya so many you will be spoilt for choice, so in, in the Southern China where I stay most of the time, they have the, they have the yam they have the cake


whereby, it is, it is called, like like they call it the


Nian-Gao, uh Nian-Gao is like, is like a rice cake ah, rice cake cake made of rice, uh powder and they they grind the rice and make it, into this rice cake


ya ya ya, then they have a lot of local vegetables and meat, and Southern China they have, they they eat something which in Singapore we don't eat that is, dog meat, ya


uh I tried once, oh-my-god and ya I tried that because, I had didn't had a choice


correct so, when we are there we have to, kind of like , follow the local, oh culture and customs, things like this, but I I after that I don't I don't want to try anymore I don't want to eat anymore


scary, Great Wall


of China yes yes yes I only went to the border, of one of the one of the entry one of the entry points of the Great Wall the Great Wall is super long, is very long, so there are many entry points and exit points along, the various stretches of the whole China


so in in the most uh capital city of Beijing would be easiest to access to the Great Wall of China, because they have, specific uh places of entry points, that are properly properly done up for


tourists to to walk up, but is also very crowded lah, so so so to speak, ya, correct correct very nice, so is, oh I think is


I think like you it has got to be the weather , the weather they have four seasons, so other than the weather I think also the food, and also the lifestyle, is is is very very different from Singapore as well


uh I think I would not want to dictate just, one country to go back to because everytime


places will keep updating, keep changing, and it's it's good to like, visit once in awhile again, because to see the different changes and what the city has to offer, like for example China is so big


now I go and in maybe five years time I go again it will be much different, let's talk about Malaysia Indonesia as well everybody is everywhere every country is, is moving and changing, exactly, so, so I would say that I if I there's a chance I want to go


everywhere again, well it's just a dream, but we have to work hard because, yes


this is most important and of course I want to, bring together with, my future wife, to be in this, travelling journey with me


most, for all this trip ah, uh each places brings a lot of different memories because different experiences, uh I think the most, memorable time I spent


was, was I mean in terms of in terms of uh working experience it should be working in China, but travelling but I also ah recently we also I also travelled together with, my, uh future wife to be, yes


we went for a, one week, holiday, in uh, it's also China as well, is Macau and, the city of Zhu-Hai, ya and we see different things that is a very nice and very relaxing journey


travelling time, yes, yes of course of course, (ppb) the Portuguese egg tarts, is so nice, Zhu-Hai is


uh is a big city as well, uh is is like Singapore, and a lot of buildings a lot of residential estate, uh some, uh something like this I think is


many many many towns bigger than Bugis, Bugis but it's the it's a bit of a same concept, then that time we went for (ppb) we went to have some lunch the seafood lunch, and


I think is ya relatively is is quite affordable very very affordable so me and my future missus we, we have we went there to have some food, and my missus was like wah I have never seen like this before


one whole stretch of, of eh people stall selling live seafood and we just, and then on the left is all the seafood stall and on the right is all the restaurants, yes


like this, yes so is a very memorable, (ppb) travelling time


every experiences is different


ya, ya he's a sorry, okay, okay now, eh let's talk about uh shopping


wah actually, I I like shopping, but, my, misses, also like super like shopping as well you know, so hor, can you, share with me, now what's the latest


trend ah makeup ah skincare products ah, Korea, like like what, skincare products ah


Innisfree, Laneige ah, Laneige all these are Korean brand lah


now now is like that, now is like, they call the what right the were K wave ah, Korean wave or something like this ah, okay okay


so how uh is, suppose to help to nourish or, try to moisturize the skin or some or something, how how how does the product help


skin type depend on your skin type, products to suit the different types of skin possible also, whoa what is that can you share with me more instead


volcano toner eh, sounds very, what colour is it, where got


(ppb) have you tried before, okay, and also, got the


the what do you call ah, bouncy bouncy, let it have a lot of moisture


supplement food, I see I see, how about the the marks just now you were sharing, ya the volcano mask


how you you tried you tried have you tried it, and how, is really the black colour uh


wow, you mean after after putting on the mask, you clean away and then after that you apply the toner on it


but can the toner be used on other parts of the body like the, the neck ah the chest area the hand, to the neck


okay in like how much cheaper percentage, whoa that's a lot difference man


because that is the factory right, ah that's the, the manufacturer, uh okay okay okay now


go Korea and buy, no lah for us guys we don't know makeup one lah, some basic


for me for me no lah I just use uh facial wash, to do some deep cleansing of the face, and for guys like me usually uh we will have to shave every few days


so I only use those, shaving kit the shaving foam, ya and then actually now my missus also take care of me very good, teach me a lot of teach me some knowledge on how to


protect the skin how to, uh how to, you know make yourself, take care of your own skin


yes, the overall outlook, aspect


games, recently I started to play, uh computer games, is a online strategy game, ya it's call March of Empires, so it's a it's a


it's a network, game on the server, so I create my own profile, and I build my, empire, I build my army, I build my


I have a farm to generate all these, have but now the technology improve a lot already


so the graphics ah everything is much more, so much more nice, ya Nintendo, ya ya ya


download the app, empire


ya cooking game cooking games, have to uh collect, you have to collect and then uh give it to put it in your inventory


yes, yes, is very nice as well


ya I used to play, uh last time younger times I love to play games ah play until don't need to study eh, ya ya ya I also have when I grow older I will go for more


more I'll take part to uh I take care I mean, uh more take note on of my health, also fitness, so I will go and do some sports like play badminton swimming, uh running


cycling like this, exercise, activities


group exercise, ya participate, yes


sweat it out, wow, okay, at uh at where


sport complex


how long is the activities last


okay wah I think it's very nice you know because, because one hour can really sweat a lot if you if you consistently, exercise, it were, it it will really, make make yourself feel good sweat it out


do they need to charge any fee, oh I see I see, program


it has really really very nice, I really want to if I really have the uh the opportunity I will want to take part because, my work for me ah my work ah the timing ah is, not not suitable I work from I start at eight o-clock eight AM