the house is also very untidy very messy and very dirty mah, and yet she still have the cheek to say another person is untidy or dirty, you know so is like you are also no far better than others, right


so that means it is the pot the pot calling the kettle black lah because both the pot and the kettle, they are all boiling things on the stove mah so you know last time the fire is not so, so high tech like ours one ah the the yellow flame one ah that one is uh has produce a lot of soot one


so both of them are still is equally dirty lah and then but the pot will still want to Call the kettle black where, it itself is also very black also , something like that lah, ya, ya so is


ya so is like , ya lor you you you are like that also and yet you're complaining other people who is also behaving the same way as you lah, so you don't see yourself as it is lah you always have that kind of blind spot


only know how to see the fault in other people, ya ya ya sure have one ah, hor


why your ones is uh always awkward ah embarrassed one ah , you're using yellow ah, [orh] okay K mine is yellow mine is yellow, [orh] okay okay what awkward situation what


oh I'm stuck in ah, err, awkward ah, what's the difference between awkward and embarrassed, it's about the same, [orh] awkward is like <mandarin>难看:nan kan </mandarin> <mandarin>不是:bu shi</mandarin> ya <mandarin>难看:nan kan</mandarin> lor


err, err like like that , oh oh ya uh the awkward situation is okay is not exactly me but uh I was in the situation as well but the


the person who is saying it is wasn't me lah but it was also still very awkward, so in my previous job right my research job right there's this, boss my ex boss I don't really like one, ya so sometimes we will talk about him behind our back


and make jokes out of it lah like !aiya! this one ah she he stingy lah (ppo）, then there's this another guy he's like one of senior also even though he's a guy he's also very gossipy also lah he also like to gossip, gossip with us the girls and the things like that and then he was saying that oh you know your boss


then everyone was laughing and laughing and laughing lah then we also didn't really look at our surroundings ah then suddenly right my boss appear, I am behind you !woah!, ya he heard I heard what you said luckily is not the the the gossip wasn't that that very extreme end like you know uh it was still


pretty mild and yet funny, and yet the the the the that that ya my boss heard it lor and then that guy was !wah! feeling so, awkward so Paiseh ah because for us also I mean even though we are not the one saying, but you know when you are being in that kind of situation you also feel very awkward because the person that you are gossiping about


just appear right in front of you, ya so that is really awkward lah and then what happen is that that guy actually go back go there and go go to my boss office to apologize to him lah, ya


ya no choice, ya oh ya we improve by whenever we want to gossip we have to make sure that our surroundings is cleared before we do that so that's lesson learnt lah , ya


ya, (ppc), ya , ya the gossiping and then the person you gossip just appear in front of you !wah! that's very scary and awkward, ya lor ya <lor I also think so


ya I also think so


well anything happen ah when you helping your mum at the store, or like the client that you serve , can


(ppc) ,


(ppc), !woah!,


oh, ya eh it's very true ah the <mandarin>隔窗有耳:ge chuang you er</mandarin> right


ya ya it, true true it brings me to another awkward situation also happened at work, because my one of my my colleague right we have collaboration lah, so he needs my help with my the things that I do and then he brought over one of uh another


uh collaborator from another institute, so this guy right he is like black, and I think he's African, African in err ya he is African is uh, ya he is African lah but he he was studying somewhere else outside


is not in Singapore, so right this this fella also very uh, one kind one because you need people's help right he needs my help and then he was late and then the things that he prepare right, also not not #swee swee# for you one leh, then it's like !woah! you have to go through a lot of things before you can like settle and help her him lor


so I was like there gossiping to my friend lah, we we spoke in Mandarin and said <mandarin>迟到又做这种东西:chi dao you zuo zhe zhong dong xi</mandarin> , then after that I didn't know mah because I thought he doesn't understand Mandarin mah because like he's like, you know I know his background he's not Singapore and then like he studied somewhere else in uh those kind of like Angmoh country


then my friend because we we speak Cantonese also then she told me that eh in Cantonese ah, this fella knows Chinese so better don't say anything then I was like, , then I pretend nothing happen lor and move on lor


, there's nothing you can do already what I cannot say eh sorry sorry sorry all this kind of thing right I just pretend nothing happen lor, but its true that he was late and then he wasn't he was not prepared for me to help him, so I'm stating the fact, even though it seems more like a complaint or gossip lah but I didn't expect that he learn he knows Chinese as well ya


ya, yes, no nothing already, go on go on, okay my turn ah is take an attribute !woah! this one very Chim leh the yellow card


like a like a a like a contribution like <mandarin>贡献:gong xian</mandarin> ah or ya uh to say something about the person, take an attribute of a person in the group and come up with their supervillain person


uh supervillain person means uh like a bad person lor like a very <mandarin>阴险:yin xian</mandarin> very , very bad lah like you know whenever you watch a superhero show, there's always a superhero and then there's also a villain the bad person the bad guy lah


ya, I think say something bad about the person lor , you you you ya take an attribute of a person, [orh] oh maybe some someone that is also like considered good or someone you have you have a lot of respect


because you are saying something tribute to the person mah attribute the person and then, err ya the person how can you describe him in a, supervillain way I think so, ya


ya lor that's why I also think is very difficult, can, ya or uh from a good person then how what kind of like bad personality or character that he have lor


(ppc), ,


, ya, and that's a guy some more ah


!haiyo!, ,


okay,


ya, I think also from young lah maybe, you know all the <mandarin>家教:jia jiao</mandarin> and everything lor maybe everything has been done, Swee Swee for the person already so he just take it for granted that oh, everywhere he goes ah will also have people must treat him the same way


as what people treat him at home, ya true true, my turn ah my ex-boss, ya he is a very nice person, uh when it comes to off after off off office things lah


ya like err like you know sometimes when my house uh has some family issue ah I have to take urgent leave and stuff like that right, ya he is very understanding in that sense lah, however when it comes to work right he is very different


ya so demanding is one thing and also he is very stingy lah, stingy in terms of he don't give us training he just want to you know, uh squeeze you dry in a way like like because we're only trained in a certain area


and then we are not trained in other expertise that he that probably will beneficial will benefit him, however he want us to learn by ourselves and then just uh based on what we learn then try to apply it, in the work and things like that so in a way I feel that the training everything is not done properly lor


maybe is good in a way that it gives us a lot of room to explore and things like that lah but sometimes right, like when we say we want to go for this training we want to go for that training need to have a lot of justification before we can go, and then you know the money the funding all these kind of thing a bit very Niao lah


stingy doesn't want to pay for it all these kind of thing lor so sometimes , maybe, but it it's not not not not good lah in a way you, whenever I work under him is kind of like a struggle keep struggling because


you are always on your own and then his expertise is not in the area that he wants me to do, also there's no a lot not to have a lot of guidance-ship lah so he's a nice person like apart from being a boss, but also sometimes also quite quite like that lah like


ya but I still have a lot of respect for him lah for certain things lah, his knowledge is in his area lah other area not so lah , ya, okay, <S>


okay, oh again what


strength ah, strength, strength as in strength as in <mandarin> 力量： li liang </mandarin> strength, oh


err industrial, industrial as in industrial I N D U S T R I A L


ya why why so Chim one ah , (ppc)


err we anyhow Hantam lah


err , oh I know industrial strength pillow, because pillow is supposed to be soft mah and then hor if industrial strength ah that means I would assume that that one is hard lah


then how can you sleep nice on a nice pillow uh nice hard uh how can you sleep on a hard pillow, then you don't sleep one in a hard pillow that means what will happen you have night ache all this kind of thing not ergonomic mah then not ergonomic you go see doctor and stuff like that lor so the list go on and on lah


(ppc), okay , (ppc), okay


I understand already, okay then we shall we move on or you have more things to add, okay, (ppc), ya


ya, can for me now I go to the green card already the story what crazy things did you do as a child,


(ppc), ya ya ya ya you put in balloon or put a plastic bag, ya <S> ah,


ya, at teenager already


(ppc), me ah oh you know last time I was uh leaving in Brunei mah before I turn uh go to primary school, so Brunei very laid back one, so after I go to Kindergarten come home, bathe eat already right then my mommy will also let me uh recite some <mandarin> 三字经: san zhi jing </mandarin> lah


then after that right I can really go downstairs and play lah I mean I feel that eh, my mom also quite trust me leh I mean I would not do it for my children now, but you know back then I was only five years old leh, five five to six years old right, I can actually go down the house and wander around the whole neighbourhood leh


it's neighbourhood you know it's not just the the void deck and stuff like that, and because, ya now now ya right now is more lah but during my time like that was like easily thirty years ago right


then !woah! it's very laid back like it's kind of like a Kampung kind of setting lah, ya so I can really wander very far away like twenty for two hundred three hundred, four hundred uh metres away from my house also can one leh my mom allowed me to do that


so long as I come back like within one hour lah I only had one hour of play time, then I happened to find one very long rod it's a plastic rod because over there there's a lot of, , industry light industry those kind of like car those kind of manufacturing industry around


then those kind of light rods right then I just pretend myself because I watch a lot of <mandarin>西游记:xi you ji</mandarin> then, then I pretend that I'm the monkey King, then I use the rod to you know here there here and there, ya it was quite funny and quite crazy lah but it was kind of enjoyable because it actually


a lot of things that we play we actually use a lot of our imagination to do it, unlike right now we are actually depending on gadgets and stuff like that, a lot of structure in the into the play but over , during my childhood is a lot of, very not structured just


go with the flow and just think of whatever and just do it so it's very free flow freelanceish something that I like lah , I don't know leh


ya, ya they should hor ya I I thought this was a very nice show for me lah, ya but right now they only interested in cartoon ya ,


, ya, so ya [loh] let's anything more thing to to add for this, okay then, oh I only we only finished four cards for me only


ya okay your turn , two food ah, err, I would choose Durian


uh very rich hor but very Jelak lah, Durian and, err milk lah milk lah, uh any anyhow Hantam uh ya


you,


orange juice yum eh mash potato, eh you like truffle or not I just made the truffle mash potato it's so good


ya very Atas, oh but it's very good eh you like mash potato I make for you you know my Thermomix can make very good mash potato


and very fast <mandarin>打广告打广告:da guang gao da guang gao</mandarin> , so if you want to survive, with these two food the orange juice and mash potato you buy ya you have to buy Thermomix


okay, what is your favorite memory from childhood, (ppc)


, that's that's very important and practical also, ya, you have any more things to add, okay my favorite memory is oh I feel that my memory my childhood memory is best at Brunei


ya because uh is really laid back and things like that and then my parents they really have a lot of time for me mah you know, when uh I was like the only child because two of my brothers they're in Singapore studying, so every weekend right somehow or rather I don't know why my father always like to drive us to airport


ah like the Brunei airport, ya <mandarin>拉:la</mandarin> Kopi and then I just run around is like a little show lah because over at Brunei there's not much entertainment also, so let's just go and walk and then see the the plane taking off or landing all this kind of thing lor this are my favorite thing and then the bonus is sometimes


I I don't get to eat a lot of snacks or those kind of tidbits as a child because my mum is very into healthy food, so uh once in a while and definitely when I'm not, uh sick or coughing right, then I will be able to have some French fries in the airport


so all these are very little little things even though right now we have a lot of money to buy not a lot of money we have enough money to buy our French fries and stuff like that, but it's never the same as, when I as a child then you you get to eat it, together with your family that kind of memory is I think is priceless lah


yup okay next one, a pig


pig, and cat, pig is because lazy cat is also like a bit like temperamental one moment you want this one moment you don't want that unpredictable


how about you,


, , ya okay next, what interesting story happen because you were being lazy


ya, oh no uh I think this question is asking about, uh what what what interesting story happens as a result of you being lazy


so what is uh , me ah err, uh let me think ha


oh I


ya and remember, ya and remember to Jio me along whenever you go , ya ya ya ya ya


!whoa! ya I wait for that day to come ah, steady steady, for me ah, uh being lazy ah or sometimes I, I was lazy during my parenting duty lor then left my children around


and then they they kind of, oh I never like , ya so like right now uh my son is like toilet trained mah, so sometimes I


I lazy to ask eh got #Xu Xu# or not all these kind of things lah I never put diaper also so sometimes like she will eh, #Xu Xu# out a little bit on the pants lah then she find it very funny lor, she just find it very funny sometimes ya then <mandarin> 就： jiu </mandarin> oh okay lor funny lor happy ya


ya okay I cannot really think of something more interesting anymore, let's move on , a zero in any number in my life as in my age ah


again uh you get to add, [orh] err, in any number in my life ah


any number in my life, oh it can be like my handphone number or it can be my birthdate that kind of thing lah, oh


a nine lor, nine because you get more mah then you put a nine a zero behind instead of like you put one then you only have ten compared to ninety ya, you


one, , , , okay, now I move on to the blue one already is thought provoking <S> you


ya lah !aiyo! so Chim hor, okay my question is you can return to any previous point in your life pick a decision, and pick from pick up from there what would you change


(ppc), you means change that that that uh uh particular point of your life or


, , okay, me ah, I ah would want to go back to the time where


somewhere like six seven years old I don't want to come back to Singapore and I hope that I can still be in in Brunei , ya cause uh the transition from Brunei back to Singapore as as as a child you don't really


understand what is stress you don't know all this things mah but I feel it somehow lah like things are just so different because, things are more fast paced in Singapore and things like that mah I feel it but however I don't really know how to express it until maybe right now when I talking to you then I ya


it is actually kind of the stress that I'm feeling but then I don't know how to describe , a little bit


ya , , meaning what, winning <mandarin> 赢:ying </mandarin> ah, in winning what


winning at life ah, at life as in <mandarin> 我们的生命 : wo men de sheng ming </mandarin> ah, winning at life ah oh I define winning at life as to be happy so long as you are happy I think you already win already


because happiness also doesn't equate to how much money you have mah, oh true happiness is really from within lor so so long as


err, to a, like err at a day that I can really be happy no matter what I do or no matter what decision I make or how much money I have right, but being pure happy right I think to me is win Liao Liao, ya


, ya lor


that's very true lor because I don't want like winning because of competition that kind of winning to me it is, it is very superficial so what if you win I mean what does it bring you like nothing much mah, it's not for life right kind of thing ya


I totally agree, uh if your life were being made into a movie what part would you want to want the director to focus on


, err, for me ah, I'll think maybe love love relationship lor love relationship and then also to focus on ah


I'm I'll just think eh maybe what are things that we can improve on lah like during the courtship all the way to marriage and things like that, maybe it is also like a example for other other couples out there also lor like


how things can be how things are working and how things can screw up lah while you have to be together ya, that part ,


, !woah! wake up hundred years from now ah but I already know the date lah that I'm hundred years back lah, err what is the first thing that I Google ah, uh is there such thing as Google in the first place you know maybe Google may not be around in hundred years mah maybe some other things has already


uh replaced Google already, right, so ya lor I Google about Google first lor , then after that I if I know about Google then I will navigate other things lah can get more information


(ppc) uh, assuming expenses were paid, which oh this is a very nice kind of question assuming, expenses were paid what country would you want to visit for six months


ya Shiok leh this one <S> , Taiwan,


, , yup


for me I would like to go Japan somehow or rather I always love Japan the culture the people the cleanliness and things like that lah, if oh if not because of the Fukushima one right !woah! I think really, it's one of the place that, , really will go lah so maybe before before I die like maybe after retire right


I really definitely want to make Japan one trip again because, the people there are so nice you know and they're very uh profession, in their work and very passionate about their work they do things Swee Swee for you and things like that lor, so it's something that I feel that we can really learn on learn about and then


like like Angmoh countries, I think after a while ah few months ah you really like one or two months I'll Jelak already, because of all the food and everything then err Japan ultimately is still Asian country we still have a fair share of rice to eat there


and like the culture is somewhat more similar to what we have been in Singapore, and then there's also natural like the there's nature, there's I think there's a equal share of nature and uh urban city life which


something that we can I can experience on also lah ,


, okay, , <Z> <Z> <Z>


ya why not, ya you shrink big and small when you like it right, ya that is very true,


, ya money also but, ya money, okay lah just put thermomix lah you know okay why why why about thermomix as in


because you know sometimes if I want to go and do demonstration at other people's house right I have to lug my machine even though it is like the world's smallest kitchen, however uh you still need to take uh you cannot take public transport lah, so if I can shrink it then put inside my pocket then I can actually bring it wherever I go and also a lot people will also say that eh


sometimes if I want to cook for a lot of people so if my machine is bigger right then definitely can cook more for other a lot of people mah, so you can actually shrink when you want to cook for two person then you can shrink it smaller then cook for two person lor you want to cook for twenty people then you, make it bigger then you can cook more for other people ah


ya so you only have need one pot to feed everyone, okay next question get okay now I become a err I turn go on to the silly one already


(ppc), get a new superpower decided by the person to to your left what do you do with it, get a new superpower decided by the person onto your left but I don't have anyone leh what do you do with it


okay so maybe I decide for you you decide for me lah hor, okay I say flying for you, what will what would you want to do with it flying


, you don't have to take bus and you don't even need to own a car


, ya you don't have to wait for the lift also you just fly down right,


, running ah !wah! then I, !wah! then I will run all the marathon and win all the medal lah <S>


ya lor there's prizes, ya cash prize so I just run only mah hor then I also don't really need to, take any transport also also I just run to whichever destination I want, and then hor I will go and take part in what national what err national competition ah Olympic also can already then


ya like Joseph-Schooling ah train so hard ah get the one million ah then I just go there and run ah, easily ah one million ah, I think one medal one million leh


ya, so if you, , so if if you must join those kind of uh competition ah, is you solo one if let's say you know you play basketball ah, you play so hard ah you only get one medal in the end right and then you need to share by so many people Bo Hua mah


so you must go and do those type of solo one ah swimming ah running all this can then the running ah you can take part in so many what, one time what two hundred relay lah one hundred relay lah four hundred relay lah, so everything I Bao Ka Liao lor


ah ya ya ya what, uh hurdle jump ah I I also can do the long distance one ah no problem, fun house in the world ha


(ppc) how would I design the most fun house in the world ha, must have Mahjong, ya very important, ya so I must have a room ah specially for mahjong one


ya then hor the room hor also must be very, well equipped with all the snacks ah drinks ah everything all there one, so as and when ah uh you play halfway or your mouth itchy ah then you go take the food and eat, and then after that ah also must have another separate room ah for the games ah that one for the children one ah


so when I'm playing mahjong right the children don't come and bother me they go and bother other people and or the entertainment themselves lah , how about you,


!wah!, , okay, good


my turn still under silly you have the power to create any physical objects, the catch is that it talks and is very annoying when you're alone with it, what do you make


, you have the power to create any physical object, the catch is that, it talks and is very annoying when you're alone with it, what would you make


TV, okay,


okay, can, err, I will make a, I don't know leh


I will maybe build a building [loh], then hor I have a lot of rental ah like rent here rent there rent everyone ah, so hor I won't be alone in the building mah definitely there will people in the building mah then I can collect rent then I got my own income right


and then it will not annoy me because, there will definitely be people in the house one, so it will not annoyed me, and yet I have my income ah good, , ya


, err I want to be uh someone that has magical power, then I want food ding I have a magic wand [loh]


ya then magic wand is very useful you know why oh the house very di dirty ah ding [loh], then your oh your your you've got no food to eat ah ding [loh] then ya all all you just have to do is ding ding ding ding ding then you got everything already , like a witch lah


, ya I think too much already , ya,


, ah yes, I mean for me if I have can ding I can also ding like


Santa Claus like that I I supply you with all the presents, we work in collaboration , very good, I got four more you


okay then now my turn ah, oh okay now is become personal everything is all personal already, what am, what embarrassing fad did you subscribe to when you were, younger I think is what is fad ah F A D


I think what kind of things that you you think is embarrassing lah, when you were younger , okay I I start first lah hor this one I can take uh I always feel that I'm fat then when I'm fat I feel like I'm embarrassed


because I don't I don't feel good about myself mah and also I feel that my dressing is a little bit off lah, then when I go out I always feel embarrassed like people may be looking at me and thinking !ee! how how how how how !ee! his dressing is like !ee! yuck


like that , ,


, (ppc), , okay, alright let's move on


(mmhmm)


err ya I want to, I want to be a Tai-Tai [loh] , ya I mean I just want to get away from everything ah then just enjoy life for the time being


, ya that is true, okay uh what is something that you do differently from most people


, for me ah, , thing that I always, sometimes


is either I think too much, then I don't do anything or I do everything and I don't think of the consequences, because for me I don't have the habit of uh you know, planning and all this kind of things when I think of something, then I I just give it a try first [loh]


but a lot of people will hold back lah, and then think of a lot a lot practical things that I, I think I'm always living in my own fantasy world oh I want to do this ah I try or how nice ah I just go and try and then I got right smack in the


at me at the reality from the reality all the things just slap on my face to wake up lah, ya so that mean uh ya lah I don't think I don't, think clearly enough before I move on to to make a decision sometimes


okay, your turn <S> , err the last movie I watch was, crazy rich Asians


{eh] not bad leh you should watch you should watch ya, ya it is a uh ya its definitely when you are that crazy rich !wah! there's, really a lot of things that you really can do ah, ya but also


but it comes with a price also lah somehow, like if you are rich and you are very well known then there maybe other things lah, like people may want to get into your good books the people that you meet, may not be as genuine as they to you because they always want to get into your good books


to get some benefits from you and stuff like that mah, ya, so but in that show it tells uh that because the the female the lead, ini initially doesn't know that the that that her boyfriend was freaking rich lah


so she actually do it out of love, more than , more than money, and uh, her effort pays off [loh] , ya its quite inspiring , you


<Z> , describe your past five years in under five sentences


me is , I feel I don't really have a lot of time for myself, a lot of time is dedicated to family and work, and uh, err this year finally have some more time for myself


to look at more things opened up to more ideas, but also ultimately it makes me realised that, money is still one of the practical things to have , yup that's all, yeah


uh ultimately ultimately we realised it , yup


oh !wow! what a spot on question, oh I choose my career, uh definitely in terms of finances wise it can is able to, pay for all the daily expenses and also there's


a form of uh job fulfilment lah job satisfaction lah, and best it will its okay it it will be, great that it can pair with passion lor the things that I like to do


well it's true it, ya ya ya I've one more one more if you have found a time capsule, from yourself or ten years ago what would be inside


, , yeah, also I think , what would be inside ah


I think memories, memories of uh, my uh better childhood and a carefree life lah that is something that I'm yearning for


yup, yeah so we eh don't don't put down the phone ah, uh I say put it on the table okay see you outside ah, bye bye


yo Ho Bo, go


no leh than my one don't have anything, anything


this is something that is, !huh!, okay, <Z> <Z> <Z>


, (mmhmm)


, (mmhmm),


ya, but do you have a like a uh, like a regime like a table like maybe like work out a plan


because uh sometimes for me I also feel I'm like you lah, is difficult to, keep track because of the laziness ah today I just don't feel like doing it then I don't do it, the only time that I was very disciplined was before I get married lah because not that one no choice mah


then uh you you maybe you you could have some goal in mind like what you want to achieve from the, uh exercising it then you work towards it [loh], probably maybe easier, ya if not if let's say we just say healthy but maybe we can say healthy in what way


like let's say if we talking about blood test, oh I want my blood what cholesterol level to reach a certain number or things like that, and then you have a source of motivation and then you work towards it and then it will couple with your diet, and then after that maybe you can see results the more you see the results the more you really want to continue doing it


that kind of thing lah, , ya, or maybe you have a certain weight loss that you want to lose ah that kind of thing lah , I know


ya, that is very true , uh okay we talk about, job and career [loh] you know this one is something that I always talk to you about right


yeah, so is the same thing lah what are you working as and how is it basically right now, situation you know lah I went to a sales job, and definitely, uh sales is not as easy as it is


and then, ya, that means if what what what come again as in you mean uh instead of commission that means is the salary one lah


ya, ya, <S> that is true [loh] like you know in insurance line property and the things that I am selling, now all this are really purely by commission base mah


so really you decide on how hardworking you are but then again it's also, a lot of time just you I feel that you don't really have control over your work, because you're dealing with people, and then dealing with people you don't really have a lot of control mah you cannot control how


how how what you call that, how much err whether they are they willing to give, up give up their time give your their time to you to, work business with you and things like that so that's the difficult part [loh]


and definitely the rejection part lah the rejection is the parts like something like, err once you reject uh I face rejection then I actually do feel very low and very down about it, but it's getting slightly better last time is like !wah! very sad ah I take it very personally


right now I still take it personally but not at that kind of level lah there's still some , some some some buffer zone , that I don't drive myself towards the person take it personally part, ya [loh]


ya [loh]


that is true [loh] so I just feel that when you are starting your own business it's not as easy as it is because, uh you really have to spend a lot of effort on it, and initially I thought eh maybe you start your own business you do freelance actually you can have more time for your family


maybe for me I have a, very big challenge is the time management [loh] I cannot manage my time very well so for me is neither here nor there, you know like I I when I was working I cannot control my time then sometimes uh people just <mandarin>放飞机:fang fei ji</mandarin> like


on you and things like that then at home then sometimes I think eh maybe I have my, my demo coming on I need to prepare things and stuff like that so I don't really spend a lot of quality quality time with my, kids also or sometimes I need to work on things or maybe I cook or maybe I need to do some other chores and things like that


so I don't really spend a lot of time with them [loh] so, I'm also in a very confused stage lah, so what do I really really want, ya ultimately uh since I've already joined the BNI right then I might as well continue with it lah, so I let my


Thermomix things uh like if I have any referral then I will just work on them lah, if not then maybe my day jobs [loh] will provide me with some income lah, ya and then my husband also he lately his his


his production is not too bad lah, then of course he say if uh I we we spoke, after we meet up with you right, I think I meet up with you on Tuesday and then Wednesday, is it Wednesday ya


ya after I come to the decision and then we meet up, and then we talk about it then he say that he will support me, in whatever decision that I make lah I mean he has always been very supportive ah even during the dark, the the the lowest time where you know financially wise its not very


difficult to juggle he will still bite the bullet and, continue with it lah, however this will not be able to last lah, so that's why uh running a permanent job will be good, and then he say if let's say if he can, do this like like he is on for right now he quite okay


that to close at at the rate that he is doing now then uh, regardless of, how much I earn in my, daily my my my my day job doesn't really matter, but then again, sales is never about everything <mandarin>顺顺:shun shun</mandarin> 【one】 mah right


ya so you also have to factor in the kind of , downtime, that downtime also, ya lor so its something that I'm trying to figure out, and even going through this right even though I've made a decision there's also fear


like eh what kind of job am I going to, and whether is it suitable and you think a lot lor, maybe one one of the things I think a lot then that why, uh the more I think the more scared I am lah


ya, , that is very true lor, the, the <mandarin>万事起头难:wan shi qi tou nan</mandarin> lor the Chinese saying right so whatever you do the initial phase sure you will have a lot of hiccups and a lot of challenges lah


so is a matter of braving through it, then, things will be more like they turn for the better


, , true true, yeah, ya


err !huh!, , (ppc)


, (uh huh), oh


this is annually one right, ya, I think they're they're doing that because that time when I was working in a hospital environment right that is the new scheme [loh] ya they called it the, I cannot remember what flexi benefit


uh cannot remember, ya


ya why not, ya you can do first [loh] if you like it if you continue, if you don't then maybe you can also find something else at least you still have some income while you're still looking for the job lah


like eh so continue you say


ya lah ya at least you go for the interview then the more you interview you go the more, in tuned you are already right then maybe the your the job that you really want right ah then you already have a lot practice on the interviewing skills and stuffs like that then


probably the likelihood you can get the job is like better [loh] higher chance for you also, ya, , !wah! actually that is true also like Bo Pian Bo Pian [loh] so you die die also have to do it


ya, have I, not yet lah I haven't, finetune my resume yet, ya do you know uh did I tell you I don't think I tell you yet


because after I discuss that all the things with you on last Tuesday right, then after that I also because I was doing the part time the oil the promoting of the oil right cooking oil right, and then I told the lady also the lady is err


I think it's also one of the managerial role lah, and then she has to come and help out and things like that lah because uh the promoter the promoters that she hired usually work until six o-clock, after six then they will stand in and work then for me it's like quite freelance lah


ya that I was only being paid four hours but usually we'll be there longer because, for us we also can also promote our machine to get leads from them lah, so that there was one day she was here so we were talking and then she was saying like, uh oh


December there is uh also an expo fair lah that she can ask us to go and help her out and things like that also, then I also sound to her that oh ya I may be taking a permanent job also lah looking around for one now lah because, very difficult to sustain with this business lah


then she says ya ya you have to that's why for her she's also an advisor, the reason why she joins is because she needs the machine to for her business also lah, ya so I when we're cooking I'm using her her machine more, and then uh she says as an advisor


she is also doing this as a leisure if there's business then she do lor if don't have she still have her main job to fall back on lah, then she did offer me a job scope also lah but since I'm already you know, uh know the business and everything already lah that one can come and help her lah


then she say , but the most that she can pay she say she can pay, uh the highest maybe two point five K, then I was like oh okay then she ask me is it something that you're looking at, then I will say actually I am looking for something higher lah


ya if possible and stuff like that [loh], so I also don't know whether should I, also maybe I would also want to give uh, this person have I told you this I haven't tell you this yet right, ya


oh did I told you already ah oh so sorry, ah


ya so that means I I because during that's only during the fair that I talk to her lah and then, it's quite disruptive lah so if need be right I would need to, like meet up with her, and then we can talk lor over lunch or over a coffee to really talk a bit more in detail lah


ya,


yup, , ya lor so I need to, say I need to see how lah, ya most mostly helping out in the events lah like what I have always been doing lor


!aiya! so,


, ya lor


ya, cause ultimately also depending on what I want to, do in the long run also like I actually because of the BNI commitment I have already put for myself right, uh, to have a permanent job, err


also a bit, my my my BNI commitment ah next year lor next year September lor, because I just I just sign up only mah, so in a way right I I I still have this commitment going on, so uh you know it's my Victor's sister's boyfriend intro me in one mah


so, oh ya forgot, ya so so you know lah he introduce it, me in so after last week session right I told him that, because he is the first he is one of the first person who also tell me to find a job


to do first, because from a uh from a like a day job from a corporate, straightaway jump to entrepreneur right, the jump is too big and a lot of people cannot take it, and actually I'm feeling already lah he did tell me over a coffee session


so actually with this in mind I've been also thinking lah but also other incidents that pop up also that makes me, realize that actually I really need a job also, so I after that I I did a during after the finish the BNI the meeting right I ask him lah


whether I should continue , can I find a permanent job lah but I try to find a job that can also, help me to, , schedule in my BNI, on every Wednesday morning lah then he said ya ya ya of course of course


he also encouraged me to have it lor, ya so he also say that, uh ultimately because he knows that I don't want to go back to the research mah initially then as in right now I am actually kind of working for money lah so anywhere is fine also, and then he say that oh ultimately you also have to think lah definitely if maybe if I were to go back to the research area


the money may be a little bit better because of the experiences that I have gained throughout the years, however if let's say if your intention is still on Thermomix and your passion is still in FNB, it could also mean that you can also try out a different industry


ya try out in a different industry, that can actually help me to have more connection in my ultimate like goal in the future, so like maybe venturing into FNB to get more commit connection and things like that lah


so that there are there are both pros and cons lah of course, so uh still thinking about it I'm keeping my options open [loh]


, yup


, ya [loh] that's that's that's one of the another plan lah


so there there're two options one is to go back to <mandarin>我的:wo de</mandarin> my my old previously line, or another one is to venture into another new area, and uh, probably that may help in my, err


other plans ah stuff like that , ya so I I I I but definitely two options are still uh open ya


ya, FNB usually not so much


that's why [loh], and I told Victor Victor say, !aiya!, oh ya ya I mean I told my hubby and my my hubby say that , do what you ya ask him equals to never ask him like that lah


then he say that {eh] because he's painting in another good scenario lah he never paint for the rainy days lah, then he say that eh if the the kind of rate that he is going then maybe he is able to support to family then, salary for my side is not so much of an


the issue lah but to me it's still an issue lah, , put it this way, so


ya lor


ya, yup that is very true lor, ya and you're still going through it mah in a way right, ya because right now you also need to get a new career and then start


, that is true, a lot of consideration right whether you really work for money or passion a bit of money but <mandarin>铺路:pu lu</mandarin> for you


ah ya, , oh, okay


, ya


!wow!


okay, (ppc), excuse me, okay, (ppc), oh that's good


ya, can lor if if I need anything I'll let you know lah at least you have seafood one right and fruits,


ya, , so right now is, is a lot of err, a lot of confusion still in the head definitely a a bit of clarity is I decided to go back to work, uh there's also a lot of confusion lah


ya can leh I just feel very lonely, okay ya lonely this thing ha always happen because it's like you working very solo mah, I go to meeting also I just err hi hi hi, is is not a kind of a genuine kind of bonding that you have with the company people


and like a sense of belonging, ya that's that's the thing I don't really have a sense of belonging


ya I mean its its like there's training going on and stuff like that, but training is very generic, err, you don't expect a person with no sales background to really learn everything within the two half days of training that you have been through


and then they of cause when you're training the the the person the branch manager, they're painting a very big picture and very nice picture for you also they are giving you all the experiences, all their personal experience the pleasant ones right


so they never tell you all the hard work all the <mandarin>心酸:xin suan</mandarin> all the things that it has been condemn by the, condemn by the who ah the customers all these kind of things they never say all this things one what


ya, that's right,


ya it is, , considering so many things, ya lor , but I don't expect really that to happen lah but at least you I want to see results in the things that I put in lor


but sometimes when the results don't equate with the, kind of income then that is the part where you feel !wah! very, rejected and very uh, depressed lah


ya, yup


actually okay,


, ya, that is true ya lor follow up lor so that's why follow up is very important also


[orh] like that is [orh] okay okay


, , okay


ya a lot of people all become cold, , like that, ya, I don't know err it's freelance one, , ya we can, we can talk on other things also which one do you want


ya because it gave us all this are like uh guided lah, but you can choose whatever you want if you want to go


oh ya oh ya very hungry already, (ppc)


but then hor you you may have rashes leh I think we better go to somewhere in got aircon better really ah, because just now we walk under the sun a little bit hor a little bit red on your forehead already leh


no two plus only lah Ah-Nia, where got so fast sweat one !aiyo!


but even though it's two plus lah it would not be it would not be less hotter anytime lah !aiyo!, anything lor uh over here also have lah if you want cross over still got a lot of food also lah


so it it's really up to you, ya its my only concern is the the sun ah and the hot the heat in the so called hawker centre


eh you know the Chendol where else got or not, you know the near Peihua you know the the uh where is it ah the the Bukit-Timah food centre, the shell station behind also got one leh


same lah is the same store is a like a Franchise, it's very good very good because uh sometimes we went to, meet the parents session right at uh at my daughter's uh school right, uh we happened to be there we definitely call one we'll definitely eat


<S> , <S>


, , oh okay


oh okay, D O V E ah at Toa-Payoh there one is it, okay can, !wah!


Dakota is quite near, I know , ya the only thing is whether your your face can Tahan or not I just scared later the hives will come out then it will be uncomfortable


usually is at night or or day time also will Kena one, oh okay okay


yup yup ya ya you are more consistent than I am , that's something that I will do also


, oh ya ya you have the Big-Box one, ya also very near already ya


err no, ya eh you know hor side track a bit ah, you know ah some one of some of the gurus they say right what you are doing is actually very correct because ah, err how how do you want to change your life if you really want to change your life ah like your


life ah, the very first thing that you need to do is declutter your house, and at first I I don't believe it because uh this one I heard from Cai-Hong, when we are still working right, oh ya ya I mean Rainbow


ya they heard from my friend because my friend !aiya! thanks for the keep reminding me I always forget about it ya, , ya because she is also quite Pantang she's into Feng-Shui and things like that she say right ya she is


and then she say ah if you err decluttering right will change the Feng-Shui in your house, then that time I was saying sure or not !aiya! bluff one lah all these kind of things one lah, then now hor I I started to believe leh because ah the uh because when you have a lot of things in your house right the energy flow in your house hor not so smooth


so if you declutter right you make more space right firstly you also psychologically wise you feel oh better your, you don't feel your mind is so so so cluttered and things like that also and then uh the, the things that you do are like more smooth also lah you're more organized and things like that second uh also for the energy right it can flow better lor


so that's why they say decluttering can change life now I begin to believe however I don't really have the consistency to do lah like you say, you pack one day rest two weeks ah I believe I'm also like that one ah


, , !whoa! you electronic one ah, whoa I just throw leh


no no no eh you need uh that kind of big size space lah, , (mmhmm)


oh !woah!, ya lor true lor but I will not download one lah, , I'll just, ya


done already [ah], okay we're done already, okay, see you (mm) bye bye


hello, hi Yi-Ying, okay you hold on, so continue talking or what


ya, ya, oh just start oh okay


so we shall start the, , ya description uh okay, yes, ya I thought so too


can no problem, so, you describe first then I follow you lah, ya, [orh] okay the sun is yellow color how about your sun


yellow color, yes mine also then uh come down a little bit I saw a city pharmacy, so, same then there is a uh cross


the plus sign over and it is a red color, okay then so there , ya yes, yes, then, , you continue


eh no leh, I don't have the two white tablet, uh just below


yes correct, ah don't have, its on the city pharmacy itself ah, [orh] city


okay so I like draw a circle here lah, so at, ya don't have then, come down to the bottom of a little bit, down and then the left side there is uh this door right the white color door uh with a grey color frame


kind of thing, okay, yes a bit pinkish yes then in the middle is it a a vase, or something like that, uh blue color


yes, you're right, then uh is sitting on a, something like a shelf but it's uh not shelf lah but maybe something white color, rectangular yes correct


okay, super shine mine is shine lip gloss so this word is different


yes correct that's the difference <S> , ya the, ya same , okay


ya, how, yes how many do you have how many row do you have, six eight ten, eleven


ya eleven, eleven by four yes same, (mmhmm), yes


yes <S> , okay


okay mine is she's wearing a black color suit uh together with a pants, so this is the difference, okay she's carrying a handbag uh brown color and wearing a pink uh heels


uh yup okay and then uh okay and the left side right there's a, uh pillar uh together with a sigh uh pointing at the left uh, and then is written a Park and its green color at the background


the Park ya, oh mine is uh left so this one is the difference


okay so the pole itself is grey color, yes correct ya right, so there's a dog at the bottom


yes, yes correct the tail is pointing upwards how about yours, that, , ya, yes and then uh, yes a brown dog I saw three legs only how about you


okay good then we go to the, shall we go to the butcher that area, okay, okay so the butcher right uh the the the top part of the roof is actually pointing uh pointing like rectangle


rectangle, eh no sorry sorry triangle triangle, , okay ya and it is blue color, okay and the words right butcher is also uh


dark blue outline and then light blue background then the butcher's the word right is actually dark blue, so the spelling is butchers, yes correct, okay


yes correct, oh the frame err is it uh mine is actually


err you mean the window something like the window, ah yes, yes correct


so now we come down to the uh butcher, uh is actually the window right, the window frame is uh black color and then, , there is a this thing called the pie, so I have uh pie the background is actually err


yellow color, (uh huh) then there are seven pies in the tray, the tray is grey color, and then uh the background is uh white and then the bottom part is a little bit yellow


yes correct, yes correct <S> okay


uh, oh no I didn't I don't have any pie here, so this is the difference, ya I don't have


okay, so coming down there isn't anymore things underneath the so-called window lah, yes


yes, yes, correct, okay then uh the door, the door is uh the butcher is standing in front of the door the door is uh


black color in the outline, then the butcher uh is wearing a white color hat, uh wearing a green color uh shirt and pants together with the apron, uh then there is a stain on the top part and bottom part


ya blood stain, so three stain on top lah also three stain on the bottom, ah yes, yes I also have


oh yes, ya, ya I have, the three little buttons also


green ah, ya I have, also have green


then he's wearing something like err little brown or, uh the shoe is a bit brown right, ya correct


uh one is uh bigger the other one is uh slightly smaller and then this is smallest one, ya correct like a small worm, then the middle one like a, a ghost


ya ya correct, okay then the bottom, ah yes mine also like a L shape


ah yes you're right , ya, stain lor blood stain lor


okay, ya it's the same, yes, same


then the bottom of the the bottom of the door is actually a, uh, quite a thick, thick line uh thick, , frame ah something like that at the bottom ya same ah, yes


you are right, , okay, yes, okay, correct


, ya


[orh] I (uh huh), so, within this uh science fair right uh what you mention is uh underneath the fair


there is this uh things that you describe right, my side don't have, ya I don't have the pictures ya, ah yes I think so


so at the bottom of this uh the pole is grey color right, ah yes is a uh ya right rectangular one facing the right, then at the bottom there isn't anything anymore


ya, ya, then, yes correct, then uh the lady is uh uh yellow color hair tying uh with a ponytail


then uh she's looking down uh uh looking at the probably the wheel of the bicycle, then both hand holding on the bicycle, ya and, ya, yes correct


, then she's wearing uh long sleeve uh white color shirt, and together with a blue color skirt, and uh, orange uh shoe, oh okay so this is the different


okay then the, uh bicycle right, , the like the frame, uh is a blue color, and then the wheel is actually uh quite uh, bold in, black


and the seat is red color, ah yes correct, ya correct, yes


then err the wheel, have some uh, uh what is that uh, okay lah the wheel seems normal lah , ya ya ya, correct


ya ya ya correct okay then the, err, the bicycle frame right, uh, how many how many uh lines do you have, uh mine have like err


like one two, one uh, horizontal line, and then one is slanted a bit, than, do you any uh not, not special, kind of a frame


(mmhmm), wheel ya


ya correct, ya but it's a slanted one right uh ya okay


ya, [orh] okay can, okay done done with the girl, ya very good so now we are going to the next uh the other shop


beside the butchers, so this is uh magical shop uh, ya magical toy shop sorry okay so magical the word right uh there is a, two star in between and it's uh actually a crescent kind of like uh board


uh eh is it crescent ya downwards ah pointing downwards one ya ya like a arc you're right so, then the, oh, yes correct


okay, okay so the toy shop with a under uh underline uh with a line below uh do you have


yes correct so the difference is the magical lah, okay then uh come to that door of the uh okay the door right uh there is a three circle in green, dark green color so the err top right corner that one the green and the bottom the green right is uh almost the same size


then the middle one is the bigger size then uh the door is uh what is that color err beige, ya correct, then there's a door knob over there


yes correct then and the bottom right there is a like a curb also right there's a line and then see it uh showing that the there's err something like a curb ya, okay so the shop itself is uh a grey color


uh ya correct then, , at the the the, what is that called the window there , yes, display then the uh just below the toy shop right the there is also a frame like uh the top part is a


yellow color uh beige color sorry, a very, yes correct then there is two bear uh one bear, ya, [orh] big bear is yellow color


ah yes then I have a small bear so you don't has a small bear so it that's the difference , yes, so then at the bottom right uh, like the cabinet is actually uh


a three panel something like three panel uh, ya, you are right is octagon , okay then uh okay come to the car


eh no no no okay how about we do the lamp post first, yes lamp post on top there's a bird, yellow color , yeah yeah


city pharmacy yes correct you're right, then the uh lamp post right uh is a dark grey, except that the bulb area is like a bit of a grey color right


yes, correct, then uh, err, the lamp post, , the bottom part right there's also a little bit of grey area maybe you can open ah, yes


okay same, okay, ya the lamp post okay, so now we can talk about the car, yes


bonnet bonnet , ya, ya yellow circle yes,


yes orangey so the yellow is like uh in front and also at the side a bit lah okay lah then, ya I think is a bumper


ah my bumper is also black color, then, , ya you continue,


ya it's black and then with uh a line of very thin black also <S> okay, yes correct, then uh, okay then uh let me talk about the


door of the car, so the handle is like rectangle uh grey color and then, slightly below there's uh uh two lines, two uh dark uh no two black line


yes Orh pin yes hairpin , yes correct, so okay then uh talk about the, uh


the back the rear the rear rear view, so uh I think the there's a circle uh with a little bit of a circle I think that one is uh to, pump the petrol I think, ah okay same ah


ah yes above the wheel, on the top on the top is uh, normal lah, uh, top lor


same, ah the front window, ya, okay yes mine also a few lines ah


ya, then uh, ya I think should be okay lah then the back there's a one circle right, ya at the at the


ya okay can, the car should be okay so now we go to the guy, ya raising the left hand, his left hand, uh then his left hand got uh four and a half finger I think


oh ya, , then the the the his hair is uh yellow, ya yellow orangey


yes then he look a bit shocked and then he's wearing V neck long grey sleeve shirt, ya okay then uh the the other hand right the right hand is also about four and a half


three oh three and a half oh sorry it's three and a half then he's wearing a green colour, uh, pants, ya ya green ya green long pants lah and then, uh, the the shoe the covered shoe that he's wearing is a bit uh


(ppb), like toasted bread , uh the dog ah, , correct then got how many stripe


ah about three stripe lah hor, ya then uh, then uh okay then I think uh the still need to describe the shoe or not


uh the front part right, ya the shoe oh okay okay then uh, then there's a bubble right I think he's shouting hey Bill exclamation mark, the hey is actually capital letter, , black colour Bill is B I L L then exclamation mark


[orh], [orh] okay, so this is the difference, okay then at the bottom right there isn't uh any anymore things


okay, ya


yes mine also same


ya, yes then uh there's only like uh one line over right I mean a bit thick lah, uh, ya okay then uh the bottom is like a bit white lah then the books right the outline is also uh blue lah


ah blue or black ah, okay then okay uh then the bottom right on the books uh building right left hand side uh there's this uh maybe a bit, err, beige color of uh wall then there's a red color uh kind of a paper there uh


ya notice board so the paper is like red color and bottom uh it was uh blocked by the sign, signage then it's a bit green right, okay then the door on top of the door there isn't it's just a rectangular beige then outline with yellow color


kind of like, uh, board but without anything, do you have anything okay, ya ah ya same like the door like that, okay


yes , , yes,


ya, then the the like it's a bit of a outline lah or maybe like two cups or something like that, oh ya correct, then uh but on top of this book there I have a piece of


red color notice uh saying like learn how to bet, B E T, do you have, oh okay, ya correct on top of the book, on on on top of the display book lah


ha there ha there's this red color learn how to bet, so that is the different lah, okay so on on the bottom of the this uh, this display window right there isn't any more things lah


okay, yes, yes


next left


oh, ya, okay mine is a pet center one mile, so this is the different ya, ya is it how many ah twelve ah


one two three, four five six, seven eight nine ten eleven twelve !wow! we are so , ya we are done yes, ya not bad ah but I think we


we use twenty five minute already right, ya lor, so it, uh I also don't know so shall we put down or put on the table the phone, yes okay


ya see you


hello , hello, water break , okay K


so we Agar Agar ah, okay, okay can, so who want to start first, okay I start first, so what incident could you have been avoided if you had, had just follow direction


ya what incident could have been avoided if you had just follow the directions, ya I think so, so anyhow talk cock lor uh


oh, [orh] okay, so what incident okay for me right what incident could have been avoided, incidents


that can be avoided is, err, maybe I could have err, err what incident could have been avoided, if you had just follow directions


maybe I, , ya uh eh what incident maybe I, I <Z> I


I can, what incident can I be avoided, I also don't know what incident I can, be avoided uh, make lesser mistake ya maybe lor


err, maybe I can, don't need [orh] I Kay Siao one ah, okay maybe uh, err, I won't be meeting uh those lousy customers lah then I won't be uh, uh making loss lah


uh investment lah all this thing lor, so, ya so I think uh if I just follow that Direction maybe I can avoid all this thing , ya, sounds good ah okay


ya let's move on so big the questions ,


what announce ah, [orh], [orh] uh things uh things like uh


[orh] worms, uh worms cockroach uh lazy like cockroach lizard uh pests


uh like dogs uh ya lah pests like cockroach lah hor, uh some people uh, then uh what other description uh cat uh lazy like cat, uh then uh what other words uh you want to contribute some


noun ah, [orh] log ah, [orh] then like a potato lor , yes couch potato so or or their life is like uh stinky vegetable


no that one is uh that one is #giam cai# , ya, then that one is what smelly smelly tofu


smelly tofu ya, ya then ya always people describe uh uh #giam cai mia# , ya hard life


ya like a cow oh ya ya ya, ya must be ah hardworking hardworking like a what err, ants ah oh ants ah bee bee bee bee bee also hardworking lazy


ah lazy like a pig lah so uh eh all the animal names lah, and all the vegetable names , what other vegetables


they are like onion ginger , yeah spicy


okay okay okay then you still have anything to add on, okay let's move on okay tell a story about a time when you were caught doing something embarrassing


ya, !wah! something embarrassing, don't know, ya, [orh]err


maybe, okay maybe I can say first ah, uh, maybe uh embarrassing uh maybe when you send a SMS then uh you send through a, err you know a group chat then suddenly you send wrongly then uh maybe last time don't have the Whatsapp delete function you know


so , ya it's about luckily lah luckily never mention name or, or, or the person lah so you can actually anyhow just cock up a story say oh actually I'm referring to this like that


, ya, ya try try to uh act act act blur lah act blur live longer lah, , ya so this is uh quite embarrassing lah uh but managed to uh kind of overcome it ah or turn the situation


to not embarrassing , ya can have you think of any


(uh huh)


oh, ya, ya


[orh], !wah!


then you have to act so naturally, then next you never ah actually hint them probably next time you can Call , ya ya


oh ya it's true !hais! so sad, okay, ya , so uh you still want to, talk anything embarrassing


okay you can ask another question, [orh]


ohoh, [orh] an an idiom can be err Chinese or English lah hor, !hannor!, ya I think so uh then uh


uh okay I anyhow talk one ah I also don't know whether is it a idiom or not, because I also don't know what is idiom then I I, oh it's <mandarin>成语:cheng yu</mandarin> ah, then the other kind of uh <mandarin>语: yu </mandarin> can or not


uh Agar Agar lah, okay uh long long time ago, uh uh there is this uh, a girl called the Hua-Mulan, and then uh she is very uh, uh eh


what she what she do ah, I think she is very err, err, good to the father, then I think the father need to go to the war uh because the father is a general, then later on because the the father is already old


so end up, she go and, act like a boy and then join the army and then go to the army on behalf of the father, ya, I think I think I think should be something like that lah


uh <mandarin>精忠报国:jing zhong bao guo</mandarin> （ppl), I think should be like that lah, eh, oh oh eh no no no, I think should, ya


then uh ya I think so, I don't know whether that one is idiom or not but anyway I think think so lah, maybe uh they the people describe her as the, err err, girl able to go to army I think they call it uh <mandarin>巾帼不让须眉:jin guo bu rang xu mei</mandarin> ah


something like that ya, I think I think it's about uh describe her courage ah, on on on going to the war on behalf, of the father and then being a girl then she can do all this ah


okay, now your turn, ya


!wah! good one ,


ya, ya


uh,


ya something like that, anyhow lah, ya


correct, then, ya so bad I think maybe got some people is like that, around us, ya lor okay I ask you ah, the next one ah


uh tell us about an awkward situation you were stuck in, I think same color same color, ya, uh green


my yellow haven't yet yellow is my last one, you are stuck in, awkward ah


ya lor I also don't know uh awkward, uh not, embarrass leh, what is embarrass, Paiseh, oh then almost the same ah I think the same also okay lah


oh dear, !huh! !huh! he heard it, ah


ya !wah!, [orh] so the guy still quite okay lah I mean the boss is still quite okay did he actually improve himself after this


lesson learnt never gossip in the workplace only can be outside lunchtime


[orh] !wahseh! gossip ah, [orh] then the person must be very long life ah because if you can gossip ah and then he can


appeared I think he quite long life lah , [orh] okay !woah! awkward situation ah, awkward situation, , not much awkward situation or I can't think of any


how to cock up one leh , [orh] actually maybe maybe


if I'm not awkward then uh other people awkward can or not I think hor there's ah oh that's similar to yours hor I think uh there's one time right when I was, doing our job you know then uh somebody was uh talking bad about me leh then she actually don't know that


uh actually I'm around you know I think the office got upstairs ah second level and a, first level then she was uh talking with another colleague and then she was so loud and then she thought that eh nobody is upstairs because it's quite early you know


then hor !woah! then she was uh talking, uh, bad about me leh then I was standing at the staircase ah at the level two staircase and then I was listening leh then after that hor after she finish right, then uh with the other auntie right and then they talk talk bad about me then I walk down leh then I think hor you know look at their face hor they so Paiseh


, they totally ah I think the the face change you know but after that because I think they're auntie lah so they don't, uh they don't really apologise like your colleague go and apologise to the boss lah so they just, err, they just feel very awkward the whole day I think then uh ya so really leh you cannot talk about


bad about people because you never know whether, , the wall have any ears or not , ya correct, that's why


oh is it,


, ah, ya


!huh! then how, no wonder, ya,


, oh so you never know that is why I say hor we must learn second language hor oh no second or third language


!hais!, it is very important, okay your you have any err anymore, or you want to go on, , okay, , what is attribute


(uh huh), super !huh! Simi, what's that


, so what what what must I say ah, , !wah! difficult leh this one ah


[orh] then can we actually maybe talk about, , what show have you see then uh, so we are going to talk about the bad person lah


[orh] err [orh] actually I have this friend lah actually also feel like quite bad lah, because ah, he always ah uh come out already then, uh usually when we come out right then maybe we share drinks or share those alcoholic drink


all these ah these hor then this person will acts, act blur one you know then, even though you come right maybe you drink half a cup or a cup right you will still offer to make payment right, then !wah! this person ah totally act blur leh then hor never uh


ya lor is a guy, then some more uh also earning quite okay lah quite good lah but then hor i think this is basic courtesy mah how can you be so Niao right, then come out and then uh next time I think uh my friend ah the other friend say that next time come out and drink ah don't Jio him already


because ah he also never offer to, uh so call buy and treat people one you know, he will never initiate one, so that's why ha you want to squeeze out ah, something from him ah also very difficult lah, so that's why ha !wah! cannot make it lah I think this kind of


this kind of guy really cannot make it, so that's why ah I see him already ah so this time round I also , uh Kay Siao Kay Siao like uh don't, don't ask him oh okay uh faster buy and then, !aiya!, ignore him already,


ya, so very bad character lah but I think this one hor I heard from my friend ah last time when he was young right, err, he actually uh like, started to have this kind of habit lor then people pay for it then he don't pay this kind of thing


so I believe ah must teach this person a lesson, , cannot make it, ya lor, ya


ya, so avoid lor the this kind of people can only avoid , okay your turn


, demanding ah, !huh! stingy oh my goodness


!huh!, , ya


ya, okay I think what cost saving is one of their KPI lah , ya


[orh], , [orh] !wah! cannot make it, okay


oh because the knowledge ya, ya, oh okay now I ask question lah, okay quite silly one lah because the title is silly, uh what normal items sounds incredibly dangerous when you put the words industrial strength in front of it


what normal items sound incredibly dangerous, when you put the words industrial strength in front of it, industrial strength


is a, ya strength, I find this question a bit silly lah, how can you ask this kind of question what normal items sounds, incredibly dangerous when you put the words


industrial strength in front of it, industrial strength what's that, I also don't know what is industrial strength, you mean industrial strength of something


ya, ya industrial strength uh pillar industrial strength , concrete, !wah! what stupid idiot oh sorry


oh err do you think we can skip this or because err we don't really quite understand this thing right err how can, ya industrial strength apple industrial strength uh, nails, or


do you think, what normal item, so we just name a normal item and then we put these two words in front of it, [orh]


ya, oh


!wah! very good leh you you can understand the question very good, , okay you use pillow I use bed okay industrial strength bed so it's the same logic


ya ya understand already oh very good okay, ah I have no more things already but okay lah we we actually we talk half an hour already so we can, ya we can go go go ahead


, as a child ah, as a child oh uh crazy thing as a child oh you know uh that time


, we will go and play, uh water bomb you know, ah have you played before, ya, plastic bag those uh you buy Kopi or you buy the drink right this kind of plastic bag, then last time we'll take a pail and then hor we play uh many many times leh but I think nowadays cannot play already


because ah people will just uh video you and then !wah! upload and then !wah!, everything also cannot uh cannot do lah but this one quite fun lah so I think , so uh as a child okay lah as a child because that time still in primary school so we play all these kind of thing


consider quite crazy already lah, ya other than that I don't think ya maybe when teenager ah then maybe skip school all these lah, ah then uh that one maybe not that child already lah


ya a teenager, no link no link , how about you,


ah, ah, ah


, no because now a a lot different people around hor and then, I think more people than


previously you were there right, the population, 3, !wah!


!wah!, ya


so you should let your you should let your children watch <mandarin>西游记:xi you ji</mandarin> so they can perform also if not, ya so but


but you have to control lah if they perform you got to control lah if not they you get they get scolding then they hor uh the tire Pancit , ya okay


next one ah, no we got to finish all the cards how many cards you have now, !wah!, !hannor! [orh] okay okay not enough time already choose two food to live off, for the rest of your life


!wah! oh, !wah! Durian ah, Jelak !hannor!


and, milk ah !wah!, ya two uh Durian and, okay then for me right uh for me I will choose uh


, uh mashed potato and, and must be a drink lah hor if not thirsty ah , and uh eh food ah and orange orange orange juice yes


ya vitamin-C, ya mash potato very nice you know !aiyo! I miss my mash potato, truffle truffle is is is what


[orh] !wah! that one I thought I watch in the show is very Atas, Atas, ya lor,


okay, you must buy the machine, okay okay next next, your turn


!wah! my favourite memory ah, my favourite memory is uh, err, I can go and play oh my favourite memory is, uh those non exam period that I can play and then without getting scolding ah all these are my favourite memories


yes, definitely, you, no


oh, !wah!


ya, !wah! correct, very good okay next , if the two person next to you were animal what animal would they be


why, [orh] okay, me uh two animal


uh one is uh horse can bring me around, then the other one is uh, maybe dog I see that uh dog like is is quite good lah for those people who have dog, quite fun lah


, so I think uh these two animal would be good, okay next, what interesting story ah


being lazy ah, oh being lazy right, actually , being lazy then but at the same time uh


I can actually uh, do whatever I want, , what interesting story ah


[orh], okay you go first lah, , can I copy your story copy your story being lazy, being lazy and ah


ah no no no I can think I can anyhow cock up one if I being lazy then the interesting story could be then I can strike TOTO and then !wah!, I can I can do whatever I want I can buy whatever I want, then I don't need to get scolding from bosses I don't need to work so hard yes


that is my dream lah actually , ya after I strike four-D or TOTO right , ya I I can sponsor you, uh, to go with me


, steady steady okay, okay


, ah, [orh]


ya is okay okay now ah mine mine mine my turn you get to add a zero to any number, in your life where do you put it


ya I think so, where would you put it


, , any number


ya maybe lor, so any number, so just say is it just say any number, nine lor hor nine


ya correct, err, , one, no one why do I put where, oh one lor, so it will be just be one actually no diff mah hor if I put a zero in front


also no diff stupid question okay skip , ya ya, ya lah just now the the the zero one is the thought provoking hor Bo Liao one lor , okay


!hannor!, , I will change


maybe I will change my job or I will change my attitude or I change my temper, okay I change my temper better, maybe uh because people say that uh if your temper is good then everything will be good


so change temper is important, !aiya! particular maybe when young lah because since young temper is uh cultivate one mah


okay lah when when young, maybe maybe okay lah maybe eighteen lah, okay you how about you


Buah-Long-Long


, ya, so do you think hor nowadays the children also feel the thing


as in from K two right then they go to primary school do you think they they feel the the stress or not, because of uh, now they also feel hor !hais! so poor thing, okay the another one ah I skip to the next one ah


how would do you define winning at life, winning winning, how, ah <mandarin> 赢:ying </mandarin> yes, uh at life , I think so


, ya, true lor winning I think, , healthy healthy and happy will be the, uh winning at life already ah


if not ah actually quite sad lah because uh ya if not healthy also quite sad lah, !hannor!, ya


I think that one is only temporary lah that kind of thing hor, ya correct okay next


oh I think to focus on the, the things uh when, uh I went through with my friends, I think that one is uh during the school days lah I think it's more fun


that is the thing that actually uh now as an adult then we will actually keep looking back oh it's so fun as of as of that time lor, so ya that's the journey lah I mean the study journey will be quite fun


ya how about you,


ya, okay then I next question ah, you wake up hundred years from now what is the first thing that you Google


, ya,


ya, , okay, [orh] I will Google, uh, where am I now


, okay next,


!wah! six months ah, !wah! very good I want to visit uh Taiwan, because I think ya the whole Taiwan will be nice I don't want to go to China, err, oh or other uh Angmoh countries because uh may not like


very suitable, uh I mean err cannot blend into their lifestyle lah, but I think Taiwan have a good, uh, environment, uh, and weather also so probably over there yes


how about you, ,


ya, true


oh,


ya, okay then uh my question ah uh the next question


how could an everyday object be used if it were a lot bigger or a lot smaller, how could an everyday object be used if it were a lot bigger or a lot smaller


I think ah I can think already uh maybe I start first ah I think hor if the car can be uh smaller err then I can put inside my pocket, then I can travel everywhere I don't need to find parking then I can be bigger then I will not be


uh scared of those uh truck or or lorry so, if and then I can use it everyday right very convenient I can bring to anywhere, , ya bigger smaller as and when I want


ya then free parking already, yes, so how about you what, what could be the object, everyday object


!woah!, do you think money , yeah


ya, ya


!aww! this kind of thought ah become very big one, okay, okay next question


ah, no


superpower ah, , flying ah, then I say probably


flying ah, so I can go to point A to point B in, as and when, , then, ya I don't have to wait then I won't be late then uh so much freedom right


then uh I don't need to take night rider then, ya the fly up and fly down !woah! anytime, , !woah! good eh !woah! decide for you ah


err, running running, you can run uh not uh without getting any uh not getting tired, !wah! eh there there there are prizes you know ah cash prizes !wahseh!


!hannor!, !wah! you can


ya Olympic you have one million , ya eh got two medal got two million or not ah or just want one million ah


!huh! !wahseh! so !wah! so she


!wah! Bo Hua Bo Hua, ya ya ya uh no <uh fifty metre hundred metre four hundred metre you Bao Ka Liao ah one person


oh ya steady okay uh my next question ah, how would you design the most fun house in the world, yes


, oh Mahjong very important, ,


!wah!, !wah! very good, okay for me right for me most fun house must be uh automated


and then uh maybe I snap ah then the thing will come already, so I don't need to be uh I don't need to move a lot, then uh I can do anything inside the house so the house must be very very big, then, , then err I think that's about all


okay your turn


what do I make ah


, , uh TV, very annoying when it's alone right, ah, ya sometime could be lah maybe want to have peace ah then the TV ah keep on having sound then you cannot be peaceful you know


making a lot of noise ya, should be like that lah , then how about you


you don't know ,


, okay back, oh !wah! very good okay my question ah if you insert if you inserted yourself into any work of friction


fiction ah fiction, uh what role would you play, if you inserted yourself into any work of friction, uh fiction ah what role would you play, oh magical power ah


then you can ah


[orh] you think too much already ah , you think too much okay for me right I want to be, Santa-Claus so then I can uh give


gift to people then when people see me they'll be very happy, so uh not like, other maybe other character that is not very popular you know so ah Santa-Claus is good


because there's a very positive image , okay, oh ya


very good okay eh how many question do you still have, ah four more okay I got three, okay ah, ya me too


(uh huh), oh, when I were younger ah,


[orh] so okay for me right I think maybe uh, uh embarrassing ha, uh could be that day they take the result you know uh, because err sometimes you some of the papers you might not get good result


so uh then, you will like be classified as uh, not that smart student you know so uh quite embarrass ya, okay that's all, okay mine, what is your I know it sound weird but just try it thing


okay, what is your, I know it sounds weird but just try it, thing, so something like what , err, what do you, kind of like want to do but I know that always you tell yourself that I know it sounds weird but just try it


what what is the thing ya, ya, yes just try it man, ya correct


ya, okay I I I for me right, uh I want to take a break, uh I want to try other jobs, uh so, is, it sounds weird maybe uh in terms of the age everything or


the income, jobs, so but, if you don't try it you will never know maybe it's just your dream job right, ya okay, you, your turn


, I, err what do I do the most thing ah, always, uh, I don't know how to lie,


so that's why I think, uh, many people will know uh how to say white lies or nice but, uh I don't know how to say white lies, so I take it as uh, err, ya, I take it as this ya


okay your turn


, correct true ah, ya


[orh], okay, uh, my turn ah, uh what is the last movie


or books or song that really made you think, [orh] is it nice I haven't watch yet leh, !huh!, okay


so it's good to be rich


, oh


ya, okay


[orh], , oh I see okay, the books uh probably for me is the book that uh talk about uh


some health condition but I don't know exactly the book name then then really make me think that uh should, should should actually keep yourself healthy from you're at this age before uh regretting it uh later


at the later age ya okay K next your turn, (ppb), !wah! in five sentences, uh


in a, relax, , the time is mine, and the moments are relax, and but the money is less


, but it's enjoyable, , okay, for you


not bad not bad you use a little time to realize it, I use a lot of time to realize it, , okay my this one is my last one, yes okay I I have a last question ah


ah how did you choose your career,


ya okay for me right uh first of all I will choose with passion lah, then secondary will be money, then but now the other way round maybe uh probably money first and then passion, since anyway everywhere is a shit job


, everywhere is a shit hole , , so I think only money can compensate, okay, you have any last question, uh <Z> uh


inside, will be money, a lot a lot of money then so that now I can spend , okay for you


memories okay, yes very good we have finished okay let's go out


ah ya put on the table ah, , okay see you


!wah!, eh do you see that there are some tick, on the topics, so, oh so any topic lah free talk topic okay lah uh what topic do you want to talk


anything ah okay lor then, I talk about uh, oh {eh] I talk about


what I'm working as, and how is it err no ah I I think don't want don't want don't want that one I don't want fitness fitness, I I want to talk about fitness and sport, okay uh what do you do to keep fit


what exercise do you do enjoy what where do you exercise actually hor I want to do I want to do exercise lah, but then hor I feel that since so long I never exercise already I better start something, slow and steady lah but ah the thing is err


get lazy quite easily lor then usually I think uh the exercise that I do is uh , walking and then sun uh, oh uh eh a stationary cycle then I enjoy doing nearby my house lah


uh then it's more easier mah hor you don't need to travel so that you don't feel so lazy uh ya when you want to exercise, so best best if the swimming pool is downstairs and the uh oh the !wah! the gym equipment is downstairs


!wah! so good okay then , okay you can


ya maybe this way hor ya,


[orh] ya, good idea


okay, !wah! but the worst thing is ah, uh you want to lose that one KG also very difficult, but then later on realize ah is not about exercise only also about the food ah my goodness


exactly okay, you which topic do you want to talk, ya correct


eh provided is a, salaried sales job right instead of full commission one right, do you think is it better, as in, ya salaried one but with uh certain percentage of commission lah if let's say you hit then at least you have something secure right


but if let's say is a full commission you also !hais!, worried ah, stress, ,


, , , ya but you you need time to actually you need time and


uh uh to to actually get over all these thing, so, but but but ah but is good lah because you'll have good time, with your family all these thing but then is just that, you also need time for this thing to work it work it out lah


oh


, oh after you come to a decision ah


ya correct, the ups and downs hor ya


ya, ya lor that's why , so you just action lah that is why I actually uh preempt myself brainwash myself that I actually


uh I have to take everything that easy so that, you would not be uh because I expect already the people might not be so friendly and then uh you might need time to actually get along with them all this thing, so I actually preset ah uh pre mindset myself so that I would not get discouraged if I found a job and then go into those


, you know uh employed environment, uh, so so that I don't give up so easily lah so I think it's about uh how you think how you look at all the all the thing lah, , so ya I think it's about how we think and how we react


that actually contribute to, uh what we would be lor, so we have to train ourselves to have a very strong mindset so that uh we can endure the, , the whole process everything ya, so I think every every job is like uh same


uh sure have difficulty lah but it's how we actually endure and how we overcome it , ya lor so, , ya lor


ya, ya, so you have to learn lah you have to learn when things cock up right then you just, ah smile and then you just turn your back and then


grumble a bit and then let go lor, , correct usually we we we encounter these kind of things then turn around roll your eyes then walk away , cannot Tahan, ya no choice no choice so


err, what other job are you looking at, eh, actually hor uh my friend hor want to recommend me a sales uh sales job lah, but at least with salaried one lah, but because of the company benefits hor that's why hor


she I say !wah! last night last night only then I say eh actually not bad leh, uh faster faster help me to see whether still got the job post or not, because of the benefit that's why I am very interested you know what benefit


!wah! still have uh like, uh maybe a few hundred dollars ah then you can actually utilise ah then you can go for travel everything you know, claim for ya, ya annually one not bad right


, oh !aiya! they they should just add to the basic right so that we have, also that we learn more


ya but not bad lah not bad lah, then still got staff purchase all these mah so I see that eh not bad, work lor work for the money !hannor! no choice


, ya very important, so I have a , no I say that I have a lot of uh other job in mind also


so I still can't decide which also anyway go and try since so long never go for interview okay your turn , ya


correct lor !hais! no choice no choice is the best choice, !hannor!, !hannor!, ya lor, no choice is the bad choice err is the best choice


so fine lor, eh so have you sent resume, not yet ah, ya, procrastinate


ah, ah ya,


, ah, but


not in detail lah, but then you told me about this, incident already but I think hor you, ya you text me about it you text me about it but then hor I think you should actually check leh


usually this kind hor they will need you to work on weekend or weird hours, shift I mean you know could be morning shift or afternoon shift then, uh your whole thing will like be will it be cock up or something like that


, ya because I realized ah all this, usually lah if you need to err so call to hold ah I mean if there is a exhibition or any fair right


then you need to be around usually will take up your weekends then, , then probably the timing will be like come maybe a whole day kind of thing, ah probably from eleven to at night eight o'clock all this so ya you will need to


arrange quite a lot of things lah , !hannor!, ya, anyway hor all these kind of salesperson ah now you're in the sales you'll have to err know how to see a bit


because ah some people they can, be quite uh friendly lah but then err ya but they have their agenda or uh agenda one lah, so ya but ultimately if you


if you think for yourself err you weigh weigh lah ah good or no good ah then, okay lah, because , maybe other better opportunity elsewhere also


ya,


until when ah, ah, !wah! so long


eh cannot say name ah , ya okay then continue


, oh


, ya


, [orh] I see, ya, so eh so


so the possible job you might want to find uh may also be related to FNB lah so as to, uh, to to to make the way for your future, err, future future future stuff is it because now you're doing uh FNB mah related lah


so now you need to have your connection of people right for FNB so is it better that you do something uh FNB, uh, then so that you can have more connection then in future slowly build up, while you're actually having a salary then also at the same time build up your connection for future


ya, ya, ya, ya


ya true lor true lor, ya anyway they're they're in need of people lah, FNB so no worries but is just that the salary that they can offer lah whether is it uh good or not


because uh the, ya and the timing is very, very <mandarin>脆:cui</mandarin> one you know, , so that's why ah if you want to juggle between your family ya !wah! this one is also another decision


ya, oh cannot say name ah


ya lor, is not about uh maintaining only leh because you also have to save for future leh, so, ya the amount ya, the effort have to be the effort have to be equal equally every year you know


if let's say because you know lah the time got ups and downs, so unless he's going to another path ha whereby, uh constantly overriding lah ah then this is a different case, but if not ah just doing sales itself uh probably uh don't think it's a very


ideal ah I don't think is very ideal ya on this thing lor , !hannor!, so !aiya!, I know I know because I went through before


ya , ya but okay luckily I I find that I find myself more , okay lah a bit a bit in a way ah lucky ah because not much commitment mah


so uh when I switch I may not have so much of err concern, [orh] burden lor so ya that's why I think quite different, because err ya the I mean the situation is different


still got to think a lot, ya, ya, ya, but also networking lah if you want to know hor if you're doing FNB I have a friend hor doing F-and-B leh


err importing seafood leh if you want to know I can recommend lah, ya if you want to, get connection but not so big business lah, according to him it's like a small business, but, uh


but but okay lah I don't know maybe he have some other connection, ya but good to know also if you're in in into this lah then recently I also found my friend, another friend doing importing of fruits ah, ya, ya then but then this one


is just coincidentally , saw him lah then what what he say he was like err he's doing importing of fruits lah so I said oh okay, so but exactly what does he do ah I don't know , ya ya so he import to those uh distributor I think


ya, that's why lor, so, ya so if if need connection ya, see lah see lah you want what connection can think about it ya


ya ya ya I have seafood one I I I I still have a few, see ya uh I mean , could be useful to you, ya lor


ya, but, confuse confuse can confuse a, a long time lah


ya, that's why that's why I feel that hor probably you must find a product ah or a place that hor


you have Kakis you know, because ah, ya, exactly actually I think ah from your point ah, from employed to entrepreneur by right is okay one, unless is okay unless you go into a well organized


uh, place ah, or environment whereby they will say they have some structured training for you then you have to, kind of a little bit structured but is uh self employed lah I think this kind of environment, suitable, for you for you to now your situation is like throwing you into the sea leh


then you learn how to float how to swim by yourself, so totally no nobody is guiding you that's why !hais! that is one of the main problem lah


ya, exactly


ya, ya


because they all do friends mah they do all the friends so that that's why ah, not enough, uh, then they will they will kind of like the friend will say like that like they will try lah


to reject nicely but then, uh, but they never say lah the rejection they never say that's the worst thing <S> !hannor!, that's why, ya so ah, ya you need to find buddy buddy because uh the


structure training and guidance is actually necessary, because, they will they will first of all uh train you and then some people will still provide, uh, like how do you get leads all these ah they will try various methods which is also good for you mah


because most importantly you have no referral then you have to get, err, client first the raw raw client lah, , that's why, that's why finding a job is so troublesome


ya lor then the best part how come the money don't drop from the sky leh


ya lor, ya lor


so that's why you have to overcome this lah go for more motivational talk, ah they they say usually they say that err you need to encounter, uh, how many rejection ah, uh before you take it as a norm


ya uh maybe ah ah you take it as a rejection how many no's equivalent to the actual rejection, ya so if let's say the person say one no right doesn't mean uh reject yet, so at least the person have to say maybe five no


no no no I mean err you uh counter propose again and then they say no ah then you will actually uh, accept it, you counter propose maybe four times five times they say no then okay you take it as a no, if not the first no second no is a is a fake no


it's not a real no, ya lor, no no ah okay only after five no then is a follow up, then, ya, because uh you cannot uh after they say one no two no right then uh is not consider


err, like a, err, the follow up yet, you have to keep on ya because you know close on the spot, the, the chance I mean is a deal lah if let's say is a follow up ah likelihood ah, err, it will be a no already lor


ya, err, become cold become cold, ya lor, ya, but how long do we have to talk ah for this topic


oh freelance hor eh never say, ha talk on other things ah


eh food food food food ah where are we going later, ah ah ah okay we talk about ah ya interesting you say Dakota <S> Dakota the old, old airport road, uh the hawker centre, you're referring to that one is it


ah okay lah we go there lah famous, [orh] it's, [orh] is okay lah


[orh] that one !aiya! normal normal okay one, now later after we go out !wahlao! the sun almost setting already ah, you don't know ah now the night is longer the day is shorter you don't know right ah ya you know don't


it's okay but the thing is the food there is nicer then we can eat variety mah


is it, no is okay because hor after we eat right if really so hot then we can go elsewhere, if provided you are free lah but then


, is okay one what because we can eat the food you know the that time we eat the ah what's that, err, Chendol is it, ya the Chendol is also not bad mah correct


ah, is it very nice ah, oh same stall, ah ah


[orh] eh you know that time I saw the TV programme ah then I saw that one Chendol right Chendol at uh Toa-Payoh Toa-Payoh there's one uh, dove D O V E ah dove dessert ah, I think hor that one uh I see the television when they introduce ah they say that the brown sugar right she purposely go and search ah


I think or get from the same supplier in Malaysia you know, because of the, uh brown sugar, is not the same ah so she can't find the original one I mean the original taste lah because I think she's trying to do something similar to Penang or


Malacca kind kind of ah Chendol lah ya so that actually I I I remember that dessert shop ah but I haven't go to try yet next time we can go to try, you search ah dove dove dessert ya, ya ya ya correct correct


[orh] okay then today we don't go so far we go around around here Dakota is also quite near lah but I, ya but the thing is err we can eat a lot of things if we go hawker centre, if we go air-con place ah !aiyo! so limited


can, the problem is ah I also don't know what cause it, , so


oh ya uh day or night will Kena one, so you see ah night time not so hot right also Kena, so no diff one I think maybe is uh all the dust lah so now I'm trying to clear up my things ah so uh probably will be better lah, because I'm throwing off uh I'm throwing off my stuff mah


so uh okay lah err hopefully I don't uh stop ah half way , no no no I'm not consistent that time hor I pack one day ah then I rest for two weeks leh !aiyo! !wapiang!


because I got so many things, ya that's why now uh just before the without the transport lah I better clear first because I want to bring about, two, two container ah two those kind of plastic box ah to the storage mah I have a storage space at the Big-Box


ya that's why, so !aiya! at the same time clear for Chinese new year lah also not bad lah, that's why lor, ya that's why I haven't I haven't ask you all leh whether have you all uh packed anything for donation or not


because I also have a lot, ah


ah, oh, oh <S> you cannot say name, your friend


okay then, ya, no problem, oh really <S> ah


, ya,


ya, ya


that's why, ya that's why now I start from uh the letters that I received you know


I will make an effort lah, uh probably a week ah, then I will scan, I will scan and then I will uh so called electronic it lah, then if not all the, ya lor, because hor last time, oh eh throw is good lah because you see ah end up I I actually pump my rubbish ah into my computer instead of


physical paper , ya correct then uh okay lah just for recording purposes lah, then uh that's why I that's why I also trying to find a printer ah that actually can scan dual side lah


but never mind this one is still uh small little bit of paper only, then uh last time I throw away a lot of paper already I shred away, then that's why ah I tell you waste of time if you keep paper ah you also need time to shred it you know, so ah you also need place to put it !aiyo! so <mandarin>麻烦:ma fan</mandarin> that's why ah uh ya no paper is the best


a lot of my bills is uh e-bills already, ya, the bank statement ah everything I also e-bill already, then I download lor, !hannor!, !huh! why, because you pay bills you sure go and download mah


, oh done ah okay very good okay talk later bye bye eh bye bye


hello, hello what's your name


**, cause she's still doing something, okay, so let's write the picture right, okay so six right, spot the difference


yes green boost, I got two, okay so this the one


yes correct, oh right so I circle this part ah the first difference


yeah, yellow color yes, do you have chute, yes two line


do you have a why wait wait I for the, the near to the left side one the bundle ah, you see a you have a, the the two line right the first line do you have a butterfly


or a, yeah, but second one don't have, then correct, yeah the shop


yup I have, do you have a line ah diagonal, okay


wonder why I don't have, you mean at the, beside the the door have a signboard like that right my one is a designer, headpins ah


so this the second one nah, this this, designer, oh no, ah my one is D E S


IGNER, HATPINS, yes


there are from, how how many flower you have ah, ya ya same, there's a window


yes, the color, is door, colour the, ya same


ya, in the the rabbit cage have, on top have a word flag mind me ah, buy me sorry, so this is leopard one


yep, on top of the cake, ya your one is not, okay okay okay okay