yes correct I know you would want to save the, country and everything but please, straw is some is is is an essential you know or unless you come up with a different material rather than plastic ah, you know to make sure that the drink travels from the cup


easily to our mouths from you know us actually contacting the thing which has been exposed there all the while, because the straw ah they actually keep it in a container know, so it's actually very more hygienic and it is not very comfortable or you press the cup it can just break you know


they don't even have the lid you know do you notice they don't even have the lid now they just give you the cup, which is like paper material, there's no plastic lid there's no plastic straws so I think they should really know look into the matter lah, then after that we're paying money to eat


okay, okay so what are you into cars or motorcycles


oh ya for me my my preferred mode of transport will be, motorcycle as well because it is more affordable, say and it is also more accessible and the same time it's more


appropriate for uh my type of work which is easier to travel, and uh I don't have to worry about so much of maintenance if I'm going to have a, class two B bike, so I think yes that will be


a very good and uh, reliable mode of transport and of course I did not take it in the past because, yes I had a very uh, you know uh carefree, social life you understand so I actually wasn't


prepared to also mentally because I do not want to you know put my life in the line, but now I think I have grown matured, and I have other responsibilities so I will definitely will put, my safety, in priority to make sure that I have a


good, ah responsibility and attitude towards, riding so that I can come back home safely to my family, and of course uh, I'll not buy all the sport bikes first maybe I'll just start off with a X one R


yes and there I'll pick it up and car yes we need a car correct and, car of course I think we need to get a classy license because like what you say in the future, are Singaporeans at least we can drive a taxi worst come to worst I don't see that


I don't know whether Grab will be there in in the near future or maybe other competitors, but there is one thing that is secure for us, locals here right is driving taxi so at least right, since we are thirty we are at the right age at least one year of driving we can go and take our taxi license also


worse comes to worse you know uncle can we go there ah yes I'm your friendly neighbourhood taxi driver I'll bring you there


oh my god


okay I think we should have a good yes correct I think we should have a good word with me in fact in fact actually ya I have a I have a, I followed this particular individual the last when he last got his bike took up from another friend from my place at Bukit-Panjang


then we went to the bike shop then I think that was when he was told also where mechanic every two weeks, he needs to go and change the engine oil and fully he says he will follow and he just follow, ya


he does what I of my knowledge was his tips wise lah, shopping


latest makeup and skincare trend okay we guys who say we never makeup nowadays, even guys not like before you know last time guys they are very manly don't even put powder I think but, even in NS you know like they will tell us have powder bath ya so I think powder is


good and you know you need to look after your skin, putting


no okay


correct, yes correct I also good you know, ya correct I think you should know some


correct a good, appearance boost up your own self confidence and life and also at the same time, you will have a good self esteem, so, what type of facial do you recommend


correct I agree also, yes correct


actually true, yes correct you have to yes I agree I I'll I think you should give priority to your


skin and the health of your skin fall like keeping you always hydrated, I have just drank my fresh air water too, cheers and actually right if you if you want to consider ah you know what since we are on at the


on the ground you know we work similarly in the sun and stuff right, and the dust right just to have a little small level of protection we can actually put the you know the fair & lovely now for the man one, ya is actually got a very good amount of UV protection layer you know


and it's one thing is good is about what this fan lovely right, it will actually blend into your skin and it even when your skin is oily and everything right it does not, and you know wipe off that that layer because once it like uh once it's inside your skin already right


is actually when you sweat and everything right the dirt all yes it still with there but is actually come out from coming out from the layer of that protection, so I think that is good for us to keep it, because the sun nowadays is since you know the ozone layer is depleting by the day


this sun is really very very very unhealthy, and the recent rise of, skin cancer around the world luckily in Singapore, we are still lucky, we say has been on the rise is very very


ya correct, correct, so I think you should consider uh just buy and put one layer just, of course we are able to repel heat you know


so how what did you what type of gaming computers do you like


correct, yes correct


no ah totally new experience right


yes that is my goal also now, correct, clubbing !aiya!, and


yes and I've also actually actually what I'm planning to do that PSfour I need to get a desktop for my son also, cause they are growing and everything ah and now computer is the the way you know you're going to go around the next future


yes, yes correct, ya correct, when you sing you actually lou know sing out your worries as well you know, makes you feel


correct, good way of releasing stress, I just did that yesterday


very good she was very happy after so long you know, like you know apart from my in-laws also coming over to my place it was only just me my wife and my son after my son has, you know fallen asleep then we were just you know having a few drinks and karaokeing karaokeing all the way until almost four AM


this is uh yes correct, this is a recommend Sarah to do this also


the amount of social media, activist I think he's one of it every first information very fast can forward, okay so what kind of movies do you like


okay


correct as for me yes I more to a action type movie and all those you know, DC Marvel fan cause I why I think is whatever I read in the comics and seen in the as cartoon ah, hold on


okay, yes yours two hour twenty minutes finish already is it, okay hold on, hold on


yes is it okay now, all right, okay so what was I saying I am a more to this a, ah you know what what was I saying DC and Marvel fan so when I see all my childhood


cartoons and comics ah coming to the big picture is like, I'm like !wow! very very fascinated, and I especially I'm a you know the DC character flash, I'm a very big fan of him because I think he is one of the coolest superhero in the world


I'm crazy of him I've always wanted to be Barry-Allen the fastest man alive, which I know, I've even fantasized myself of being struck by lightning and you know I can really, be the fastest man alive, but of course I would not want to try it also, because you know right we all have to grow up one day ya I like that type of movies and horror movies yes


last time same similar to you I was like you know, scared and everything but now I am you know the more scary the thing is there's there's a, certain thrill to it you know is like a, [orh] more scarier will it get even even more scarier and stuff


and uh for dramas right I think nowadays TV serial right they are not like before, their technology and it it's almost like watching a movie you know, you know netflix a lot of series ah


correct a lot of series ah which are, but okay but


yes correct correct is is I think its worth it because I can see all those netflix original productions ah they are very good, better than some of the movies they took a lot of effort to do


yes all those you know that, Pablo-Escobar and you know all these people ah, very interesting ah


oh bang of what what type of things, oh yes I like no I actually like Armani-Exchange because I think, it is more Asian friendly ah the cuts and stuff


yes and I I compared to, yes correct AX is much more affordable man LV, uh verbally and stuff, but of course I have some friends who are


which because, ya they are actually manufactured in Bangladesh, correct but the, thing is the person that means like Armani-Exchange this guy Giorgio Armani itself, he is a designer who has


got the money to you know invest on, fashion shows and everything and that's how they market and the quality is one of the best, they they they go to they go to the nitty-gritty parts like you know getting the, best kind of material the best wool the best tread the best line and its like tailored to


fit most body types and its like, you will not be you will be able to be cooling at the same time the material when its at a hot day, and also when its in a cool day right it is suppose to give you come comfort, and its not gonna be like just clinging into into you know like your when your sweaty and stuff


and it it is much customizable like even your your if your collars are like even very, a like maybe too long for you too tall you can actually there's a tuck where you can double fold it, and can you know they take effort to make sure every detail


they put effort in right can be able to you know accommodate to the weather's preference, so I think ya that is why they are expensive and stuff


yes I have, I have one LV ble belt because actually it was given to me as a present, ya other than that I have a couple of Armani-exchange bag because I like that AX, can no problem


it is the LV colour, the light brown and the dark brown the checkered you know, yes correct then there will be the LV thing on the on the top but is not the LV word you know, it's the is just the silver bucker


then there will be Vuitton with the L in the center, yes correct, I don't prefer the LV the word by itself because you cannot wear it for a lot of those you know formal attire and stuff ah


some some more we're getting old I think we need to, get more like our age kind of, eh Hermes also nice, recently they had a Hermes, ah you know the wrist belt for the apple watch, the belt itself right three hundred over dollar you know the apple watch Hermes belt only


for the watch, apple one, but is Hermes brand three hundred dollars, correct, the belt only you know the belt only, that means uh that means the the watch right the face itself right is a different price the face itself is much cheaper maybe you can get it about


uh between uh three hundred four hundred belt itself right is three hundred, because is Hermes, ya but I don't think you should invest so much on the


watch lah unless is Rolex because Rolex has got profitability and everything other than that ya I think because, that type of work you're wearing doing ah unless you're going for function yes then you wear, other than that you're going to everyday use you shouldn't buy anything more expensive than the G-shock


G-shock is good already or Casino, very, user friendly, correct so are you going to continue remaining fit, you have to lah


yes, correct


different game ball game right, and of course lah the more the better the body, you know opposite sex also will prefer you better lah


yes, been married or not married I don't think makes a difference so we went we want our we want our life to be, good looking and you know presentable I think we should also put in some


you know, a level of, consideration of their likes and dislikes and also you know, be in good shape at least to be healthy lah don't need to be until a body builder, when you wear a shirt we you know we need to look good


yes correct, yes correct, that's the thing, that that that do you know that okay for the last topic art and culture


only got a few minutes a a do you know a fun fact actually my uncle is a very prominent musician you know, yes ya as a prominent musician in the our, Indian culture he's a flutist, yes and I also in the in the Carnatic my wife used to be a Bharatanatyam dancer


ya, so I I I think we should always have that, level of a interest in our own arts and culture lah, the future also ah I plan to train my children ah, at least to you know to live up to that lineage


cause art and culture only correct art and culture can only survive through people, and people have to always upkeep the tradition, if not ah there's no identity tradition is identity, identity no identity I think all of us are we are


just you know, Xerox copies, photocopy, now my son is a I think naturally


musically inclined he just goes and you know, whatever he get you know the Punggol in my house he he likes to play that, just anyhow bang so I think that's the first stepping stone next year on his third birthday I will introduce him formally to a class


and everything I also plan on, sending my daughter also lah to Bharatanatyam, okay the last thirty seconds is all yours


yes correct important best become millionaire, passive income


okay lah, ya done don't hang up the phone first we will go and inform, just put at the table, over and out


hello, ya oh you're on the line already yup yup I can hear you, okay, you have the picture in front of you, yes yes yes fun shop ya


K what do you what do you K you do you have the, the shop, ya


oh no I don't have that, oh the young pea shoots available here yup, yup, young pea shoots yup, oh mine is young pea shoots available here


okay, K and then in front of the shop there's a sleeping cat do you have that, okay great, do you have , the banner that says fun day


yup, no just the difference, yup


no I don't, I don't, uh actually in front of the bun I have uh the window and a picture of a pear


no I only have the picture of a pear, next to the the window okay and then at the side of the bun I have a picture of carrots, with uh seeds scattered


the pic, ya three, oh mine is three carrots with uh uh seeds looks like seeds to me, okay, it's actually a blue bag I have a blue bag


yup okay same ya, okay, ya I do the artist , ya blank paper he's probably starting to paint


he's in a striped red and white, uh T shirt and blue pants ya and he's got a beret, no I don't I don't have papers, you mean next to the artist is it no


no I don't, no I don't, K do you have a tractor a green and yellow tractor, ya ya bee on the fence ya, okay


ya I do have that, ya, ya, I have the a place card that says nature trail and then a picture of bee and a butterfly, no honey, no honeycomb just uh bee and butterfly and nature trail


I see a, I see I have a bush


yes I see a girl hiding behind a bush and peeking her head out but there's no flowers in the bushes, mine is


ya ya, yes I don't have any flowers on the bushes purely green bush ya, ya, I have, ya two


oh uh two brown ducks uh and a white duck, so there's three of them ya


yes I have I have that and then the boy says Sue where are you, Sue where are you Sue S U E, ya, ah mine is okay that boy is saying Sue where are you and then I have another girl I have a girl uh in


yellow ya yellow and purple stripes, and she's saying I saw you Anna, so do you you don't have the


conversation, okay, okay, ya I do have the fun day, and then do you have the a track like a grey track where okay


yup, that do's, ya the sack sack run


yes yes, okay mine has


mine is , this blue uh boy this boy in long sleeve uh blue T shirt but I can't see his pants, he he's he's inside the sack so


the pants is not visible, so, ah right, right mine he's inside the the he's still inside the sack


ya, ya


right, ya she's I do the girl is you I I, she is still in the sack like the boy she's still in the sack I can't see her the lower part lower half


and she looks as if like she's like, screaming or in fear or she's excited that's she's reaching the finishing line something like that you know the expression


exactly where, ya I do have the uh a lady uh in green with red pair of uh


sandals ya and she's saying go go, ya I have a man uh in white long sleeve uh T shirt with burgundy pants


burgundy short pants, and green shoes, yup and she's ya ya and his hands are above clapping


no I don't, I I do have a white color ball but it's only one one white color ball but no uh bowling Pins


and do you have uh this, advertisement say charity bring and buy, sale, do you have that, oh okay


ya I do have that, ya at their at the starting point right, the fun day it's actually at the starting point ya


ya I do have at the top in red fun shop, farm shop, ya it's like a poster it's next to the blue bag, pink poster and then


ya uh it's, yes I do and it's red eh sorry it's yellow, ya


uh mine had there is , it's seems to be writing and then like some drawing but it's it's illegible you know, you, ya ya mine is lines ya, so it it that


ya and do you see two sheep, ya next to the artist


what, uh no mine looks similar both looks similar just, the goatee, right


oh K, no mine no, sides actually shaven, ya, okay, uh do you see uh like, uh stickman drawn on in the tractor


oh okay, they have two big ones and one small infront


ya ya red ya one two, so you have one two three do you have six differences already one two three four, five six seven, twelve one two three four


one two three one two three four five, six seven, eight nine ten eleven ya, so there's one more ya I've eleven too


ya I, ya I do I do have that, ya okay actually I do have twelve I mean inclusive of your differences, so okay let's let's repeat K uh one is I


looking at the barn I have a picture of the pear, only, alright, okay that's one and then uh at the side of the barn on on that wall, I have a picture of three carrots with seeds scattered


okay, and then , uh I have, the something that says young pea shoots available here


right, it's like a place card or something ya ya, and then I have another one I have another one that says


charity bring and buy sale, okay, right and then I have a small white one white ball, uh without the pins without the pins


oh okay, it's it's a grey cat a sleeping grey cat ya


ya he's in front of the door, ya, ya it's just that I don't have papers on the floor and you have, yup he's good holding a yup he's holding a brush


yes yes, no I don't, K


no mine doesn't mine both are, oh clean shaven, then we have the the bush, mine it's totally a green yours has flowers right


ya, yup yup same, ya, ya yup, ya


yup mine is without the kind of comb, ya, ya the only difference is that one has got Sue where are you


yes that's one and then the other conversation is I saw you Anna, okay and then uh, another difference is the boy that is uh jumping towards the finishing line he doesn't have


I mean he is inside the sack so I cannot see his green pants, okay, and yup I think we have all twelve, yup


two three four, one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve, uh did you did the, the pins


ya I don't have the pins, I don't have them, so, I have the whiteboard but I don't have the pins, yup, ya I have the whiteboard without the pins you you say and the whiteboard


is , in front of the, the advertisement that says charity, bring and buy sale, okay, yup sure I don't have the ya, I think we have one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve I have twelve


differences already, ya, I think there's something that you don't, you didn't get to circle, which one, is it


the conversation the two conversations, yup, yup


okay, right, so wait, you meet the twelve, one two three four five six, still at eleven, which one


okay, I think, if I have and you don't have, I still circle and if and vice versa you know I whatever differences I will just still circle that's why I I probably got twelve already


you want to go through again, ya


okay I only have, pear, yup so that's one difference, shoots available here, yup so that's the second difference


alright that's the second difference, yup, mine , mine is carrots with seeds three carrots with seeds, so that that's our third difference


yup, ya, yup yup, I don't ya


mine is, so that's our fifth difference because the boy yours is, green pants I can't see it ya okay, alright okay


yup, yes


yup, yup that's eight already, yup, no I don't


and I don't okay my the twelve one is uh what I have is, it's like an advertisement uh block that says charity bring and buy sale


ah yes, it's actually uh for me it's , in front of the farm shop farm shop, okay in front of the farm shop there's a young pea shoots available here you know and then in front of that


there's another one it's purple it's ya pink ya ya, ya, so now it's already twelve right, okay


ya I ya uh even if I don't have I'll just circle just to show that I have, you know, yup okay I think we can, proceed to the next one, I think we just go in front uh ya, okay alright yup okay bye


hello, are you on, oh okay yup, yes thoughtful okay


if again if, I think it would be stand up comedian


because your job is to make people laugh, and the more that you make people laugh the more, uh money that you would get, you know


that's what I think, I, and you make other people ya


yes, okay for yourself what what do you think


true, okay


okay my question my, you are given a chance to send a five minutes message back to yourself, from five years ago what do you say


for me, I would tell myself to, uh relax, enjoy, my time with my boys while they are still young because they are growing very fast


and to, uh don't be too focused on the academics, because they are doing well anyway so I should just enjoy


ya enjoy the moment with my boys enjoy, I'll play with them running with them laughing with them, would tell them that I would tell myself that, ya, okay, your next question


I think, basically humans need to work but the concept of work will be different, you know we should do barter trade I mean you can grow your own plants and


and then you barter with someone who does uh who rear some chicken some whatever you know so, basically we still do need to work but the concept of working should be different


then that's how it should be


ya, yup, ya ya, it's just the idea of work if you think work is just nine to five, then , then would be you know


it is different as compared to waking up having to cook for your children clean up the house that's all work, you know it's all work it's just that a diff


ya but still on you know uh it's still a work, ya that's why sometimes , being a housewife or homemaker it feels as if you are not working well it's actually not, you know you're not


it just because you are not financially contributing to the economy that doesn't mean that you're, out of job or you are not working it's totally, so uh unfair to, stay home mums


a lot more right without MC and and without MC and leave and all that so, okay my next question, okay if your life were being made into a movie what parts would you want the director to focus on


don't you want to, uh focus on your, book, adventure the the the you know the the one that you went to, or writing books for children I think that's a great achievement


okay, for me, yes yes it's not final it's, I don't think that's final I think there's a lot more, that uh, things that you going to be proud of in the future especially if y'all girls and all that


which you may want to actually, put in the movie, yes of course of course, ya, for me


the part that I want uh to focus on for now is, my time when I stayed in Sydney, you know ah ya the reasons why we left my husband and I left for Sydney


you know because we had, we were workaholics both of us were workaholics, and we, we put a lot of time in our work because at the point in time we didn't have any children, and also probably because of that we didn't have any children uh we couldn't conceive I couldn't conceive


so, I told my husband either you work overseas or you study overseas because I want to take a break ya, so I he, he uh you know we went to apply for universities in in


uh in the in the states and in Australia but we decided to go back to Australia, so we went to Sydney because I want to take a break from work and I think I need to we need to actually, relax you know so that we can try to conceive I can try to conceive


and ya so when I was in Sydney I had, my eldest was born in Sydney, my eldest was born in Sydney I before we left for Sydney I had a miscarriage in Singapore, and then uh no I had a miscarriage in Sydney in Sydney I had two miscarriages


and then after that, then the third pregnancy, in the third pregnancy when I was in Sydney I, uh it was successful I had my eldest there


and then yup the the the while in Sydney you know because of Visa restrictions, I couldn't work but I did a lot of voluntary work instead, I was


helping an a women association I was actually teaching in public schools so, it was that part of my life where, it I felt very liberated you know I was doing things that I liked


yup, so, ya ya, okay your next question, winning, can you repeat that at life


okay, winning to me, winning to me is when uh you actually are happy with, the people around you are actually happy after the sacrifices that you have made


you know it's not a personal kind of uh win it's like you've made all the sacrifices, uh you want to do to make it's it's a heartfelt, sacrifice you know you you love doing it and they actually achieve something and they are happy with it


that is winning you know ya, ya, and ultimately for us, for me, it's the success is, in the hereafter if whatever sacrifice that you've made here you actually see the rewards in the hereafter


ya, ya


ya yes, it's it's not about a personal thing right, okay my question you can instantly learn three new skill what are they


right, relax , ya, for me the three new skills


one is it's not a skill but more, to amplify that skill you know how to actually improve on that skill, is to have more patience


ya or to learn how to, have like you said self control like not not reactive like certain things that happen, I shouldn't react uh I should seen through, the pros and the cons the effect on the people if I blow my top


uh I should have I should learn that you know, ya I mean that's that's because very reactive I have to learn how to be, to calm down and see things through uh because at the end of the day if I blow my top


which I usually do uh it's just going to make things worst, it's not going to make things any better, you know and you have to redo the damage, uh which is ya that's one skill another skill I would love to learn about


uh artificial intelligence because it's it's really going to reveal revolutionize the, how thing's work you know, with artificial intelligence, I like to know more about that


and I think uh third skill is to, to be able to, to see through, uh information and decide what is actually relevant for me because like


so many information out there, and I like to know things but not everything is relevant not everything is important you know but, so so that's what I tend to do I tend to actually read everything and after that I tire myself and then the


the important things I it's it gets not covered which is not a good thing ya, so (ppb) that's one thing I would like to to be able that's the new skill, to be able to sift through and decide okay this is good okay I read this I don't read this you know this one I can chuck away I don't need to read anymore of this that kind of stuff


okay your next question silly questions, sorry again


food, okay one, one is uh dates, and the other is uh milk because, I I've read somewhere that milk is actually not just a drink it's actually a form of food


because it fills you up ya, and it's uh, uh it gives you fluid at the same time, yourself


dates ya, yes


and and and I read somewhere it's better to actually drink goat's milk compared to cow's milk, ya ya goat's milk is better yup, which I it's actually true because I, uh I make my boys drink cow's milk


when they were younger, you know and the pediatrician actually told me you know, what she ask me you know like sometimes when you go to the, PD right they will ask you what formula you give to your your children and I


so I once I told her I I give goat's milk and she said oh it's very good actually reduces the incidences of , uh asthma, and, ya so goat's milk is actually recommended ya


yup ya, okay you have the power to create any physical object the catch is that it talks and it's very annoying when you're alone with it


what do you make, you have the the power to create any physical object, the catch is that it talks and it's very annoying when you are alone with it, what do you make


what what is it that, something that you make what do you make such that


they have the power, that it talks, ya because it talks


scary, okay


everyday activity that is torture, talking


ya because naturally I, naturally I, I'm quiet person I like to observe so having to talk a lot is like, uh I don't think I can do that


for eight hours ya, what about you, ah right


right right, okay, my question in another dimension humans are now pets what would be your treats, so you have to imagine what pet you are, what kind of pet you want to be and what would be your treats


uh okay that's graceful


so what were your treats, what kind what would be , you know your rewards, your the


right, right


ya as in if you don't do ya it's in okay for me, meal ya, for me the pet that I'll like to be would I'll like to be a bird, can fly free you know


yup, right, yup, for me like I say I would be a bird I like to be a bird


uh but not in a cage, you know put back , as pets they put in a cage but I like to be in an aviary a a big enclosure where I can fly free, you know uh my treats will be


ample food ample space, to fly around, go beyond next question


if you could what again, put them ya, ya


I would, put, well, uh right now I'm thinking of a Pegasus


Pegasus as in the horse, and a bird, you know yup so like the horse can fly more like Buraq, ya ya ya ya


Pegasus uh well Buraq, Buraq ya, because you have the, cause like you have the, the strength of a horse and even will have the strength of a horse but the ability to fly free yup


by yourself


right, you just know my my my silly question, my silly question what music could you play to drastically change the vibe of any situation


what music could you play to drastically change the vibe of any situation


ya I I I say the same way too, uh it depends on the situation more on the music, the situation will will determine what kind of music that needs to change it


ya, what stupid antics me and my friends are most proud of


okay, okay yes yes, what do you do


I was of a a bit of a goody two shoe in secondary school (ppb), so I didn't have much fun, I mean I had my, I was I mean I had my my type of fun but but I said I was such a goody two shoe you know I I


I didn't try much adventurous stuff or naughty stuff for that matter, ya so what what what what, what were the antics that you you did


that you, oh really, who is the we


ah right right, always got called up by teachers right


oh serious then how did you get go home then, really, I didn't know that, okay


I always had skirts always had I always had skirts well below my knees, so good right


something to remember by, yup


my story what is the most impressive, what is the most impressive thing that you have ever done


just very, one of the most impressive thing that I've ever done, well I think it's, actually wrote a book for the madrasah it's actually a math book


I did a math book for my son's school, uh with the help of, I mean with the help of some teachers, uh but the book is actually meant for the internal use only


ya so I had to pick up some, you know some new skills and all that but I enjoyed it


uh I supposed so I supposed so ya, Inshallah what about you you actually can actually go I mean for, mean mean it's, it's such a big market you know especially if you like you said you already


well known in in Malaysia and all that it's such a big market over there Malay books and all that


mental blocks ah, awkward situation oh okay


awkward situation was when I first, met my husband okay I was that was the first, uh first time I was leaving for Perth


uh I was the at the airport and , uh my my we were going to take the same flight I didn't know about that, so apparently my my aunt my dad aunt auntie and uncle knew him and even my father knew him


so my auntie told him uh please take care of my niece because you you, we going to Perth I was going we were going to separate universities but, ya that destination is in Perth right so my my auntie told him to take care of me


so , so we happen to be placed, uh next to each other our seats were next to each other and uh we got uh upgraded we went to business class, and , and I always sleep I always sleep in in any vehicles I sleep


and I didn't realise and as usual after the meal I you know as usual I will sleep in the vehicle, whether it's the bus even in the MRT in the car ya I'm always sleeping except for now after I had children I I I stop sleeping


in the vehicles because I have to look after the kids right but anyway, in in the plane I actually slept and I had my head on his shoulder, ya ya and and my head was actually rolling down his shoulder then he will push up my head so that it will land on his shoulder


I mean it was a five hours flight you know, ya it's so uh, ya and then after that uh, it was very awkward then after that uh, he he was very


gentlemanly about it you know, ya ya ya so, I I when I realise that I just say sorry he say it's okay you know and he never bring it up he never made fun of me or whatever it it was very good of him ya


no I don't think so I think he felt very awkward I think he he's he's the sort that feel very awkward but he is, you know but anyway, ya that's like you say fate lah


fate you know


you choose not to remember lah, okay


I rather not remember it yup okay, it uh, what was your most interesting classroom experience, yup


my, yes there is still, seriously


alright, they can't they can't do that


ya ya ya ya ya, ya ya ya, okay for, ya carefree right


okay for me the most interesting classroom experience was when when I was in JC, uh we had this uh relief English teacher, K he was ah ya he was an undergraduate


so the the and he was very good looking, so, and he like some Bollywood star you know he was like a some Bollywood star so the we actually uh did a prank on him


I do not know how we get you know we actually managed we put a, a uh a full waste paper basket on top of the, the classroom door, so when he open the door the whole paper basket waste paper basket will fall on him ya


ya but he he took it he took it in his stride lah you know it ya he actually laughed it off and all that ya so but, but that was, ridiculous lah the the girls


of course the boys enjoyed it because they were jealous you know we were like hoo-ha him him all the time, honestly I can't I supposed so lah I mean ya


uh in VJ, ya it was in VJ ya


that is, okay , okay (ppb) ya ya ya (ppb)


it's like I am okay my sister in law gave my uh boys a Whoopee cushion, okay they gave me the they gave she gave them a Whoopee cushion so when they sit on the Whoopee cushion it will sound like as if someone is farting


you know K so so what happen was there was one day my boy , my boys were, they were fooling around with the Whoopee cushion and making such a a noise you know they were they were


so rowdy and, uh they were playing not just the Whoopee cushion lah they were playing with so many things boys being boys they're so loud and all that, so I was so angry with them uh so I


I march, towards them and the first thing that I saw was the Whoopee cushion so I grab the Whoopee cushion, of course as I grab the Whoopee cushion it sounded like as if you know farting sound you know


I grab the Whoopee cushion and I as I walk towards the kitchen with that it's like all the way sound , that's why as if it you know it gave out the farting sound and I threw ya I threw it in the waste paper basket


so my boys they didn't know whether to laugh or to be scared , because I was angry with them at the same time you know this this


farting sound was coming out you know so ya so they didn't know whether, ya actually threw it away , ya ya ya so that even till today the boys they will


they will laugh about it because like , because they they can remember the emotions you know like are we supposed to be scared because, you know ummi is angry my mother is angry or are we supposed to laugh


ya for yourself


right, ya


right


!wow! so entrepreneurial


right, oh really


right, expensive


need to buy, doing business already


right, ya because she she didn't get caught, oh she got caught


right right, but it, but it shows her her business like nature


ya ya okay my question what interesting story happened because you were being lazy, what interesting story happened because you were being lazy


so many interesting things happen or so many lazy incidences, ya


ya, relax, true


ya true, and then you don't just cook for yourself you have to cook for the family, ya, so there's room no really room for laziness


ya true, what interesting story happened because I was lazy


oh okay something very recent recent lah you know, okay I was a bit late recently and I had to attend a course, and so my plan was to actually drive


and then after that park the car uh somewhere, and and then after that I take the train to the, to the training centre because the training centre if I were to go to park my car that will be very expensive


so I but because, my excuse was like I was late lah I told my husband I was late so that was my excuse actually I was a bit lazy also lah, you know to actually have to, park the car and then take the train then go to the training centre so I actually drove to the training centre and I parked there


and, uh the parking fees was (ppb) the parking fees like got me you know like, jaw dropping you know like, ya and then after that


uh oh of course I have to apologize to my husband ah profusely, like so sorry so sorry I was late I was late okay okay , ya lah, ya that's why


ya lah ya, not worth it not worth it not worth it seriously


ya, it's a lot, it's a lot, public transport


!wow! on transport alone, that's


actually, I don't know ah because six hundred is like you can actually like, that's instalment for a car actually, you know a monthly instalment for a car


any professional sport ah !aiyo! I'm not into sports lah, what would I change, what's okay for one thing maybe hockey


hockey, ya, I probably change the stick because I've always been afraid of hockey stick, ya, but seriously, seriously


oh really, oh dear what happen, right right ya ya ya


in trauma already ya, right right, your own daughter, into sports


right ya, ya you know


like your daughter lah, okay , okay how could an everyday object be used if it were a lot bigger or a lot smaller, how could an , how could an everyday object be used if it were a lot bigger or a lot smaller


okay, well, just like


maybe, I don't know sewing machine, if it's a a lot smaller you can, bring it around you know if it it's pocket size you just open up and then after that if you


need to sew a button or whatever, you you know and then or you rip your clothes especially when you go, go on a holiday you know you just


washing machine ya ya, true, ya


ya, ya you you also do that is it go and send to the laundry, go to the, ya ya that's why


okay, ya your question, idiom


idiom, idiom can, what idiom can I think of , penny, penny wise pound foolish


penny wise pound foolish ya, I think that's an idiom, uh an interesting story


okay, I'm trying to think of a personal story penny wise uh, well okay lah just my


I can't think of a story right now, can think of an idiom


okay put that aside first until we we we we can think up or maybe, if we still have time we can go go through that question again, okay you can take anything from modern day with you on a one way trip into the past


what do you take and to when do you go, to where, telephone ah, but then you the only one having the phone


very good one, wherever it is, to to communicate with


right true, ya, ya true, ya to forge ya


if I can take anything from modern day, I think I would take the air fryer, ya , because because uh it reduces it's more it's healthier


healthy living you know you don't have to first you don't have to, you know uh stand in front of the stove to fry you just, dump whatever you need to fry in the air fryer, and then so it saves time and it's healthier because it it


you you using less oil that kind of stuff, so healthier less time consuming and then the time use you can actually do something else you know, ya I think I'll take the air fryer


okay , single law of nature


I would like to create, what would I like to create, I would like to create


things that can go faster, you know because I see the garden that my son is, you know creating, and it takes so long I doubt I don't have the patience he has the patience I don't have the patience


when is this growing when is this when can I you know ya it takes so long so maybe but then it's actually good for him lah it it actually, you know develops perseverance patience observation on on his part ya I supposed


I mean there is a reason why it takes so long but, maybe it can go a bit faster you know , ya, he's growing ya ya ya he's growing uh tomato plants he's growing garlic he's growing


chilli you know ya so like he and then after that, ya is is a lot of, a lot of work and patience lah which he has lah I supposed ya which is good for him


ya and he he because the thing is he he says ummi I I he does it for me okay what do you like to eat ya what do you like to eat I mean he he grows, things that I will use, in in my cooking you see but isn't when can I actually rip your produce ah


ya that's why


right, that that means uh something like a time machine


correct, ya, o okay my next question


if life had an achievement system what would be some interesting achievements to get


(mmhmm) if life had an achievement system, what would be some interesting achievements to get


an established writer lah, right


for me, what it interesting achievements for me is not, directly mine is like I mean just yesterday , when


you know we usually do our at home we usually do our prayers uh jemaah in congregation, so uh in the absence of my husband my boss will step up and


to be the the imam to lead the prayers, so yesterday, uh I mean they will have take they will take turns lah you know they will always start with the eldest brother followed by the second son and then followed by the youngest so yesterday


for the night prayers for maghrib my youngest it was my youngest turn my youngest son to actually to lead the prayer, so and he actually read surah Al-Qalam


in the twenty ninth section of the Quran juz twenty nine, and it's got fifty two verses and he actually read that beautifully so that was a great achievement, uh for me it's it's not, because it it you know


ya it's having to have my son leading me in prayer reading it beautifully it's, it's awesome for me lah, you know, he's ten, he's ten years old ya


ya, Alhamdulillah, ya, ya Alhamdulillah, so yup yourself your your next question


weirdest thing that I have Googled, what ah


I always Google for directions because I do not know where to go anywhere


that is the only or I Google for, ya that's I Google for directions I Google for meaning of words like my son will ask me, what is this meaning and I don't know you know oh okay the last, the yesterday my son was asking me is there a double T or one T for forgettable


uh and I had to Google that to you know answer his question, I supposed that's the only weirdest thing that I did recently lah, yourself, ah right


right, so like


which language, which language do you, interesting


right and then after that you use them, right, right, right


very polite venting out very polite and very because nobody understands you , okay, how did you choose your career


!huh! that's a long time, ya and you've move up the ranks right


alright, right ya


yes, yes, right


okay, oh how what how did I choose my career if you consider , I mean I consider what I'm doing right now is my career my chosen career because like I told you for


ten years I after marriage I didn't have any children so when I had my first I told my husband, you know that were time that time was in Sydney so I told my husband I want to, take care of my of my child


and he say this you want to take you want to take care of them or you want to nurture them because if you want to take care of them, we can always have a maid, if you want to nurture them yes I give you permission


which make sense, you know, ya so, yup so I've been, around for my boys, and, and I think


I I've seen the fruits of my labour lah, for now for now, no but they have a long way to go but I think I'm I I'm able to move on because I think they are they can manage, themselves right now


like when I go for courses and all that I have their meals ready and I would tell them I have instructions for them you come home you, you have your meals and then uh make sure the kitchen is clean you have done your homework, and then when I come back from my workshops and all that that's exactly it I come back to a clean house with my boys all


uh fresh up freshen up, and they are doing their homework so I think, when I look at that I think I'm I'm ready to go back to to, go and step out and do something else for myself yup


ya, what small meaningless way have


rebel, (ppb) I suppose I do, okay you go first I can't think of one at the moment


right


ya, testing your limits basically


ya, too for me ah, I suppose so lah I mean like, because know my parents trusted me a lot


uh so they don't really give me any guidelines, so like, like after school like after like uh CCA right, I'll go to the library usually lah you know you go you know uh on on Saturdays right


we go out you know then uh, some I mean, I suppose I, I uh, that is, I I don't know know whether they expect me to tell them or what but


I maybe I tell them once and then after that I I will just, go without informing them, you know that kind of rebel like do things like, without informing my parents


ya ya, yup, ya, K uh okay what dreams from childhood have you achieved


did they actually did it


why, seriously , true !wow!


right right right, right


ya, oh is it okay I've okay what dreams from childhood have you achieved , I think my, no I have another question


okay, when I was younger, maybe because my my mother was working my mum was working so I've always wanted uh


you know I was telling myself, I want to have I want to be around for for my children if I uh in their growing up years, because I didn't have that, because my mum my my mother was working so I suppose that


I achieved that lah in that sense you know being able to be around for my, my children my boys in their growing up years lah, yup, K you got any more questions no more, okay I got one more last one


what would I risk


what would I risk , I would, I don't know I mean, what would I risk what


okay maybe time, my okay like for now my my dream is my hope lah not dream lah ah, my hope is to uh to actually go back to to work because I think I need that


it's more for my children and for me my husband keep telling me you better go out to work because you're breathing down your boys' neck too much, you know you need to give them space so ya so uh, ya so I and I I think once you start growing up I also need to


to fill my time with something more meaningful a sense of fulfilment so that is my hope and my dream so what would I risk, I probably I'll I'll have to risk, the time spent on on my housework you know like there'll be some some things that may not be


uh tip top lah like some uh the house not so tip top as how I wish it can be ya, for yourself, ah right


right


right, right


right, okay my last question describe your past five years in under five sentences


ya in under five sentences, right


right, right, okay, for the past five years, I think for the past five years I've


I've done some, you know some a lot of drilling for my boys , and I see my my youngest blossoming you know


he was uh he was actually a late, uh he he he talked very late he talked when he he started to talk only when at, late two years old kind of thing but ya but I


you know uh with with encouragement with close attachment uh and having that trust and all that, I see him blossoming he's he's actually become the


the funniest of all my boys you know that confidence to joke ah ya, and, ya ya ya he's he's he's more chatty he's he's, most fun to be with lah uh even his brothers enjoy his company they they actually like


they like hugging him they like yup, ya my youngest ya ya and uh, five pies past past five years I


I was about to leave for I mean we've made a lot of, changes as in we were about to leave for, Perth because my husband got a job there but


we didn't go because uh his brother said that we we shouldn't move, uh anymore because we were moving too much uh so we stayed and then his father fell sick and he, he attended to his father and he looked after him until he passed away and then we were supposed to go to Qatar and again you know some


maybe it doesn't fall through because there's other plans set up for us so in the past five years we have made a lot of, family changes uh to cater to, the needs of our extended family which I'm I'm okay with ya


ya okay I think we've ended our question, I think we go out now okay bye


hi, hi I'm back okay, so which one you wanna talk about


okay, okay, you've got a lot to talk about CCA you've got a lot got a lot of interesting achievements Alhamdulillah


right right, ya lah, ours where got so no no lah no lah, compared to the kids right now with their CCA with the choices of CCA with the things that they do is like


ours is like !alah! you know nothing, yup


we do, we do have CCAs I thought the CCAs our CCAs were only on Saturdays we don't have like school day


right it have a weekday right, right


right, okay, sorry sorry what sorry what instrument do you play in in the band, ah right


right, right


yup, that free me time that kind of thing ya


right, activities


ya, they also have the mid year and and final year what, ya ya


topical test lah basically


ya, right


ya, ya


actually the if if they you know in this the system of no exams it's, if if you don't want to have exams that means you must change the whole uh philosophy of


of you know of teaching in uh in schools because if you still maintain the same philosophy where, you know grades are still somehow important because then it will


it will not change much lah you know it will just lessen because ultimately the the headline says that no exam so so that it will release some stress, so if if that's what you want then that's all it's going to do but if the philosophy macam if you still have


it's like if you want to have no exams system but the syllabus is still the same then, there won't be that that level of stress will still be there if you unless you say okay uh we going to make it more


project based we going to make it more outdoor base you know then, a bit different the whole how you teach it will be different but if it's going to be the same, a way it's just that no ya that that's just no ya no point


I hope so


right


what at preschool go


why boys didn't go for the kindergarten, my, my second one didn't go I homeschool him at uh nursery, and then after that , uh and then my my youngest I I homeschool him nursery as well as K two


it, I know it was it was still compulsory at that point in time then they will they actually gave me a letter, the government actually gave me a letter said uh do you have any financial problems that you are not attend you not sending your because they have records right


uh so they knew that my boys are not in attending preschool, so they actually you know send me letters to ask me what's the reason for not sending them and all that, so, uh but I mean they did


they did very well lah well so when ya to to actually uh pass the entry test for the madrasah, manageable lah, you know


this is which level, oh right right right


oh really, right, alright


right, right


I know some I saw some are actually sending their nursery you know, their preschools to tuition is like !aiyo! so, you know uh I mean like why why the need


you know, so young, right right right


do your interns get paid, how much I mean it's like, oh per month as an as an allowance who pay the the company pay or, company pay


right right and then they they they find their own companies or, the school oh the school will assign them


can you actually look, sorry can you actually look for your own uh jobs, to go for internship


it's four, for Poly right I mean which is two of your your girls are at in, oh to okay for Poly for every for every term, there's four terms is it, in in a year


four, and then, the eldest one, right


your second one is in Poly, oh okay okay, so you usually every every term


you have different models modules is it, different modules and then are they, are are are their modules interrelated


okay for the for Nafa right, what's the entry requirement for Nafa, because okay, because my son my son right, uh he he he got into IP program


that means, uh he he he's direct admission to JC though, you know, it ya integrated program so he doesn't sit for O-level, right he doesn't need to sit for O-level, uh and the the teaching method is also very different


but the thing is ya it's very different uh, and he will get to do internship at the end of year four, uh when when his batch when his O-level batch all goes for you know to sit for O-level, , the integrated program students will actually do


internship lah but, but but right now he's telling me ummi I am I don't want to do I don't want to continue this anymore, you know, ya he's he's he's he's telling me why am I studying something that I'm not interested he's very he's very into arts


he's he's into design because he took up higher art he he's doing uh art elective program, so, so he wants to pursue that, so he's thinking I want to go to Poly said you you for you to go to Poly you don't have an O-level you not going to be doing O-level you gonna have


a lot of difficulties because his grading his grades is based on GPA, that's the thing so he doesn't so, that's why I want to know I mean I am doing my homework for him right now lah you know if he really doesn't want to pursue


his uh, integrated program, he will not be having O-level because he's now in sec three only he's in sec three he's sec three, ya only next year but I'm doing my late work ahead lah you know


so so I want to know like, uh Nafa what courses and what's the entry requirement


okay, ya actually


ya I know, I don't think we can do that I don't think because it's a bit too late already because the you know by, by end of usually by end of sec three by by uh okay lah by the first term of sec four


usually most , syllabus are covered already so he's he he won't be able to do his O-level that's for sure it's just that , you know having to have this option lah he has I I keep telling him he has to do very well because


you know at least if you do well, if he doesn't go to that means at at sec four lah I mean I have to, I have to my uh homework I have to do my research right now so that I can actually


meet up with the with Poly or Nafa you know to to see whether they can, accept him with his uh IP results lor, uh IP it's I mean uh


next year lah after I mean with with I with IP qualifications because no N-levels right, ya


cannot too late already too late too late to go to to prepare for O-levels really too late because this is already end of, sec three already too late because by they would have covered three quarters of O-level subjects already


by end of sec three almost three quarters, you know, he does he does but at a different level, certain things he doesn't


he he he does, depth as well as, uh ya lah I mean their their their learning style is also very different their teaching method is also very, pretty different, you know


ya so, ya but definitely he won't if he wants to do his O-levels he has to repeat his year three, he have to repeat his sec three you know which is a waste of time ya ya ya because he has already covered everything


he has covered almost, almost three quarters of the syllabus, ya, ya


I did I did I did speak to my my son the other time when you told me about your daughter doing this right teaching, ya I did said no he's not keen to to do to teach, I mean he's into design and all that but he's not keen to teach


oh ya lah so I want to see what are the options he has, ya but I he I mean like have to Nafa does Nafa have degree courses


Lasalle, right, but these are all private right, private


right, ya lah ya lah, so when when when she's in Nafa she get an allowance


oh to teaching allowance she got teaching allowance, every month


there's sub to cover there's enough to cover her monthly expenses


well right


so if it's option then she gets the money or it goes to the school


I have to do my research, ya true, okay, do you want to


continue no do you want to continue or you just want to, you know, oh call it, oh you enough


okay, ya, ya maybe a bit one more topic lah maybe


let's talk about food I'm hungry , do you cook do you cook, everyday


right


chicken


how much you sell it for, what a steal


to eat with what


oh you sell it for all forty


okay, alright okay <malay>apa</malay> (uh), the the lady just come in she said the time is up, then we can off we are done okay thanks


hello, ya can you hear me yes, yes the farm shop fun day okay


the farm shop right with the pea shoots uh with the with that slogan where the pea shoots half price


you don't have the, young young pea I don't have that as ya mine is pea shoots half price


uh okay that's uh that's a difference, right I have that


fun yes I have that so we have the same one so we don't circle the same one right, okay we only circle the one that is the difference isn't it do you have the picture of the pea at the side of that uh bun


you know there's a farm shop right, on top and then at the side there is a picture of a pea with all the peas scattered as a white colour, frame


I have both pear and apple do you have that, okay that's the difference ya I have


yours is carrots mine is a pea, uh okay so do you have a bag there hanging inside the barn at at the side of the door


blue colour bag correct it's the same okay, what about an artist do you have an artist doing a drawing sketching painting, but it's a blank


okay, red white blue pants, ya, yes, okay we have papers on the on the ground, near the


painter ya needs to the artist near the canvas no you don't okay I have that, the one that's right uh after the fence right, yes yes that is


do you have a anything hanging on the fence nature trail do you have a bee the honey butterfly


and the honeycomb no honeycomb, okay I have a picture of a honeycomb, okay when do you see the girl, uh in between the bushes at the where the flowers are


there's flowers, I think I think she's hiding behind ya, correct, uh mine I have flowers and uh she is peeping and


she has ponytail right, two ponytails, okay, purely green, okay what about the two ducks, three ducks


correct it's the same, yes three what about the do you have two children there one boy I think another is a girl


the boy with a white color T shirt red pants and blue shoes brown hair, Anna Sue where are you or Sue uh mine is S U E only


mine is Anna Sue where are you, stripes, yellow and purple stripes ya


mine is without the convo so she's pointing towards the duck, ya the, nope no track nothing okay what about the fun day do you have that


yes the sand track right uh something like, okay tile ya you have the two children playing with the rack sack


the sack ya the sack run and one is they're almost towards the finishing line is yours towards the finishing line, one of them is still jumping and another, the one in blue one boy in blue and green pants blue T shirt long sleeve green pants


he has a sack down, to at the finishing line


the fan oh okay so mine is visible the one uh because the set is already on the ground so he's he's wearing green pants, ya, okay and the one on the left the girl maybe it's a girl because I can see that the hair okay she's wearing pink color


and long sleeve T shirt and ya I can't see the pants or skirt, so the sack is uh halfway covered, up to her waist line then and seems like the action shows like there she's still jumping towards the finishing line


do you have that, okay


ya the expression the expression right do you have three uh pins, the bowling pins and the ball at the side, somewhere near the uh somewhere near the girl


do you have a couple standing at the side of the finishing track there, sandals


okay, correct I have that same too and the one beside her do you have anyone standing beside her, ya


shoes right covered shoes right, correct yes I have that too but the three pins are somewhere near them do you have that, the three bowling pins and the small white color ball so you don't have that


okay so I have the three bowling pins


no I don't have that no I only have the word uh you know where the where they were playing uh the sack, there is a banner sitting front they do you have that, and


at the starting point, correct what about the at the barn do you have the word farm shop, do you have anything beside the blue bag right do you have anything in pink


and against the door, do you anything against the door, red


ya it's yellow in color it's like ya it's something, but I mean there's no words


mine is just lines, ya ya ya lines and drawing ya not sure what is that, other than that the artist is sitting isn't your artist, do you have the artist, yes do you have that too


okay there's one with the beard isn't it , one of the ship the one on the left, ah okay so mine is with the beard


or the mustache or what ya goatee the goatee can be said can be seen


stickman and tractor yes, I have that too, and the tractor has how many wheels is, that you can see, ya right and the and of course that rack right isn't it, what do you call that ya


I have more than that, I have one two three four five seven eight nine ten I have about eleven


I have eleven, do you, do you have the finishing line the line you know the there is, some kind of a string


at the finishing line do you have that


look the barn first, I have pear and apple


okay mine is a pea with seeds scattered, mine is just pea shoots half price


it's like a banner it's it's it's not a banner it's like , a wooden ya ya a wooden ya, okay so you have that that's the difference right yours is not the same other than that


okay I don't have that, I'm, okay I have a one white ball


ya but I have three pins there your cat, your cat is the same as mine isn't it the cat, sleeping ya right in front of the door or where is yours, right in front of the door no okay


what about the artist they the artist ours is the same isn't it, his, he is holding the brush, trying to paint on a canvas the white canvas ya and then but he don't have the papers that's on the ground


okay I have that, okay uh the goat the the two lambs you have the two lambs, but I have one with the goatee, okay then the okay the


what you call that, I have flowers and my girl is on the left side peeping out, ya with a two ponytail looking at the duck


okay and then you have something that is hanging on the fence that states uh nature trail but I have three pictures there, I have picture of the bee butterfly and a honeycomb


and then the two children standing, the corner right hand corner bottom, yup mine is with Anna Sue where are you


yes mine is without the conversation the girl in a stripe yellow and uh purple stripe, she's just pointing ya


yes but I can see his green pants the sack is already at the on the ground, ya, I think the girl is the same isn't it, but I only have one two three four five, six seven eight nine ten I have eleven here


I have three pins, ah the ball the difference is the ball isn't it


oh you have the white ball so the white ball is not considered


I don't have that, so, you have twelve


but I only, right which one is it, the conversation because I have one the girl right


the one with the yellow and uh pink stripe and another one the boy with the white and red pants, that's one, the duck we have the same right, and then the honeycomb which you don't I have, the goatee which you don't but I have hw papers which you don't and I have


and uh the pea shoots I don't have that uh, the slogan that that that promotion that you have I don't have that, ya


still it's at eleven, ya


ya, see the first one the one at the barn you have that farm shop, you have that the ya the word the farm shop, so uh you have that uh apple and a pear, which I do I have both apple and a pear you only have


pear, so at the bottom you have the, you have uh the words pea shoots some yours is young pea, yours is young peas right ya mine is pea shoots half price


so I have a picture of a pea with uh the peas scattered, on a white paper, okay, and we have the blue bag we have the same blue bag the pink colour that's beside the pink colour thing that's hanging beside the blue bag


and there's something hanging at the door so it's all the same, we have that two couple one is clapping and they wearing green that says go go that one is the same right, and then I have the three pins which you do don't


ya but you only have the white ball which is the same, right and then we have the two children that are running at the track, with the gunny sack and one is down the one the difference is the one that is, has the gunny sack


mine is on the ground and wearing the green pants, and the other girl, two three four ya that's the fifth one ya


okay and then the sixth one is the girl in stripe yellow and purple, she said something for yours but mine is without the conversation she's just pointing to the girl that's behind the bush, ya and then the bushes the green bushes mine is with flowers yours is without


right that's seven and then the boy in white and red saying Anna Sue where are you, whereas yours is Sue Anna right Sue where are you, so that is one two three four five six seven that's eight


ninth we have the honeycomb which you don't, and then ten I have the goatee, the two sheep, you don't and then I have the papers that's scattered on the that's on ground, ya that's eleven


ah that's the one that I do not have, so where is that actually


ya, ah okay so that's the missing one that's the missing one so you have twelve so down here we have I have only eleven


ya mine is uh but I can't I can't circle because there's there's nothing, ya so that means there's twelve, yup


can all right, okay we end this right


hi, hello


yes, ready, ya I have a card here, thought provoke, if happiness were the currency of the world what job would generate the most money


if happiness were the currency of the world, what job would generate the most money


so stand up comedian would be the, most, enjoyable job, that were the person doing it enjoys it and the people listening to it will, happy okay


for me, is hard to tell, because whatever the job is as long as you are happy with it that will make you happy


right ya I think ya is is is whether you are contented with uh, the environment if you happy then you'll be happy with the money that you earn, you know, is the environment the job scope it all depends on that I mean that is my perception


five years ago, if I was given that chance, I would, want to tell myself to, wake up , (ppb) and do whatever that makes you


you know happy and excel in whatever that uh you do, you can be much better person than what you already are, work harder, ya, what about you


right, enjoy the moment


alright if humans no longer needed to work to survive what would we do


ya I agree with you I think , personalise your life you're are a human being you still need to work you need to work to survive to work to, earn a living uh your to earn to get food


so this question like if humans no longer needed to work to survive I think, it's impossible, ya we have to work in order to get food on the table right


that's all work you know, so maybe that is more to responsibility, true


no I think stay home mums have lots of work to do , yes a lot more , yup and underpaid okay, alright next question


if my life, were to made into a movie which part is it okay, maybe, my achievements, what I have done to be to be here to be where I am


how my struggles ya that's the part, what I went through for the past years, ya, how


ya, right, actually uh there's a lot other that uh I have gone through, my experiences mainly is my experiences


uh with a maid agency I've worked as , sales I work in sales I run a shop, canteen and finally the book, I was a a preschool educator then there's a lot of things actually it's all my challenges in my life


maybe someone might want to do that focus on that, so that I can share with with people around you know, and the final achievement is the book lah, ya, what about you


true ya that's also an achievement you know


what about you


so your children were born there, okay


right, that makes you happy ya, okay, how would you define winning at life, at life, yes how would you define winning at life


true I agree I agree with that


true, I would say the same too you know winning is about uh making, people around us feeling secure happy, and uh seeing the children grow up to become, somebody you know and uh


they are successful in life I think that's a win, as a mother, ya so the next question


learn three new skills, for me I guess would be , self control, what else


learn to relax, and uh, to, be happy all the time, ya I think these three is important


we are living in a place where it's so stressful so you need to learn to, relax ya


right, that sounds familiar to ya


right


choose okay choose two foods to live off for the rest of your life, choose two foods, to live off for the rest of your life, food


what kind of food


right correct, ya I would choose uh the same two, because dates and uh milk, you know it is filling and uh dates has lots of uh nutrients in it, and is healthy


ya milk as well ya, cow's milk true ya it's much healthier


ya true, ya, cause at some children that have uh issues with uh their stomach with uh allergy, it's best to give goat's milk ya, okay what's your next question


again, if you have a power, okay, that voice


of something, is that it, what could that be, ya


eight, and wait when when you're alone with it if you find it irritating isn't it, because it talks, I wouldn't want to do that I would I wouldn't want to be alone , something that would talk suddenly


ya, isn't it, you know when you have a toy that talks, you wouldn't want to do that I mean I'm you wouldn't want it to be on, right, okay let's go to the next question instead


what everyday activity would be torture if you had to do it for eight hours straight, okay


one thing is because I used to work an eight hours job so I think that eight hours job , I can now no longer do it you know as you grow older you just want to do something that's more relaxing, that is uh


just you wouldn't it just want a lot of your me time that kind of thing lah, ya so that eight hours that's job is no longer, a thing that I look forward to ya


next, okay


I don't mind being a fish, ya I don't mind being a fish, that can swim the water it's cooling


treats, you mean the kind of uh, I can swim to another place you know, right ya I can swim to another place I can uh


go to the bottom of the, I think there's a lot of things that a fish can do as long as you don't go inside, as long as you don't go on land and landed land on someone's plate


and become someone's meal, oh you say it's a pet right


ya pet means will be in the home or someone's home so you'll be taken good care of, they'll be they will feed you ya and they will love you they will talk to you


that's a treat, ya become someone's uh uh uh companion


!wah! this is one silly question if you could hybridize two animals together what would, they be and what would you call the animal, hybridize two animals together that means two you have two animal you combine you marry them to be one so what would you


uh what would they be and what would you call the animal I wouldn't I can't think of , well that's why it's called silly question I guess, but you have oh what would you do if you can do that what would you do


what animal would you choose which two animals would you choose


together, ya, so you would call the animal, but


well I I I I can't think of any, ya, to fly, ya


I don't know I just couldn't think of any, I couldn't think of you know having that kind of animal that kind, I just couldn't bare to see animals you know being married and think think of that it's it's totally out of


I just I just can't, ah okay sorry yes yes


it depends I guess if your situation is a sad, so perhaps a fast song to change, to make the environment more lively and happy, right


ya, if it's the environment is too loud you may want to listen to something more, mellow, more soothing, more instrumental like


ya to make yourself feel relaxed


ya because it it all depends on your mood you know, right ya it's your mood, okay, what stupid antics are you and your friends most proud of


I tell you first okay, I think, our secondary school days are the best, that I think that we are we are very we will always remember just like the late Missus Madam Alice say


the your secondary days are the best days of your life, I still feel that you know our teenage days are the best days, of my life with all the stupid antics that we do in class in school with the school uniform


don't you think so, ya I know, what do you expect you can't expect prefect to misbehave


true, we were labelled as the notorious girl


few of us the batch, ya how we tightened up our school skirt shorten these are all the things that we will never forget, right and we're smart enough to avoid that


but I didn't when during the uh towards the end of the O-level period I was called in, by Miss He to change my skirt, my skirt was confiscated


I oh she gave me a new one, longer one much longer, ya, ya it happened just a few days before O-level, so these are the things, long


right, well those were the days right, I'm not proud lah but okay lah I mean we had yes true you know something we'll never forget


but we are proud lah to be Saint Hilda's


ah I think to become a writer, the stories that I've written for the children the picture books which I written and published, and to be known not in Singapore but also in Malaysia


I think these are ones the one of the achievement, that I'm very proud of, what about you


eh that you can go further you know ya with that, perhaps you can write a book, and publish ya


ya, it's quite challenging, it's a very challenging ya


and it's quite tough lah to actually to write, because sometimes writers will have all this uh what you call that writer's block and all that ya, so it happens it happens


K uh next question, tell us about an awkward situation you were stuck in


okay, okay


really, oh goodness, right I understand


that's the first encounter , must be really awkward, ah K, that's nice


then I say eh I'm so lucky today when someone sat on my shoulder


right, true, true


couldn't think of any at the moment seriously, ya but I guess maybe there were many many many times it happens lah, just that I


ya, too many, too many till you can't remember any, ya, oh you know it's just something that oh okay it's done alright pass


ya true, okay what's your question, classroom, ah okay I I always remember uh when I was in sec one


in the history class, ya under Missus Manon, you know whenever you dream you are dreaming she will notice that one if any of the children are dreaming she will start throwing chalks at you


ya, so that is something you know I mean teachers won't do that lah nowadays you won't nowadays if yeah they won't do that they they they can't, and anyway there's no chalk to throw


you can't be throwing markers , (ppb) ya so it's something interest something that you can never forget, actually school days school days are the most uh, fun


and the most uh yes true and experience right the different experience, you have


okay


you fell on him, oh dear, whose


so he must be a hunk ah, where was this in the one in, oh during in Beijing


okay, the next question tell a story that is funny, in retrospect but many not have not been funny at the time but may not have been funny at the time


tell a story that is funny in retrospect but may not have been funny at the time, do you have, I'm sure


ah okay


you farted


because you were against it right, ya, it happen, so you throw you actually threw it away, really


still remember yes still remember that


or to laugh ya at that at that point ya, for myself okay actually it's not my my my own my own experience but the thing is it involves my daughter's, one of my daughter the second one she's now nineteen


this happen when she was in P three, now when she was in primary school I was selling food in the school canteen remember , right in her school in her school, so uh since that something was going on and I didn't know about it even the teachers didn't come to tell me


so uh, when I was uh this thing happened discreetly, someone actually approached her, one of the friends, actually no no my daughter she was looking forward to be a student leader


she was in P three cause she knows that when she goes to P four (ppb) there'll be a selection for student leaders so she was working hard towards that, now when she was in P three this there's this girl who came to approach her and ask her, uh Shifa do you want to sell sticker


you know so she was thinking uh sell sticker sell sticker to whom she was asking her friend (ppb) so the friend say oh you can sell sticker to anybody, uh I give you the sticker you can sell at uh, seventy cents to one dollar that's what one of her friend told her ya so actually she actually


ya she actually uh managed to sell, so she actually approached all these primary one students and make them buy just one sticker you know one sticker at one dollar, now it seems like it has been going on for about two weeks and I didn't know she'll buy the sticker and then after that she will sell she'll buy it from her friend then


or the friend will give it to her something like that then after that they'll sell then the money they will give back to the friends, some ya a few cents and then (ppb) the rest all she get to keep , and the thing is one day when uh she was in the canteen, the student one of the primary one student actually came with the teachers pointed at her


so uh she said that the the girl said uh that's the girl that ask me to buy the sticker, you know and, she said that uh, ya she ran she ran away from the teacher now this is a very serious offence which she has done (ppb) so she was being called up


she was really being called up and then uh they actually told her that uh, she could get expel, ya she could be expelled for doing that (ppb) because she is actually instigating them to buy, and these children primary one children what do they know so they they they thought okay something nice so they just buy and it's at one dollar


which you know little children usually they'll bring very little money for you know for food and all that, so when they buy the sticker they won't have any more food to eat uh any money to buy food, so uh that was you know at the age of uh eight years old my daughter selling


in school stickers in school (ppb) almost got her expelled ya so when you think back it's something that's, is so funny at that point of you know at the at that age you doing all these naughty things you know (ppb) which actually is a very serious offence


and could get her expelled and the best part was I was there and I didn't know anything about it, ya so it's it's something serious, but and then when she was in P four the one who (ppb) the one who that got into P four


so there was the selection for the student leader was out and unfortunately my daughter didn't get, but the one who got it was the master planner of the selling sticker she was the one who got it , she got caught


all of them got caught quite number of them ya, but the thing is is she uh ya so she didn't get to be a student leader, but somehow when she look back now that she's nineteen and then uh (ppb) when she looks back to that it's something that


you know it's very funny but it could get her into trouble at that point of time, but ya the lucky part is uh I didn't know about it , right I get you mean ya, ya because she's very talkative so she can sell she can


sorry come again, what interesting story happen


you know uh, so many


so many lazy, !ha! I guess I think uh (ppb) when you when you reach a certain age you just tend to be lazy lah, you know that you just want to


let go ya you just want to relax watch TV just it be done with it and then you know watch TV the whole day and then suddenly you feel hungry then there's no food to eat , then you have to get on your butt and cook ya that's something you know


something that ya when you you're hungry and then there's no food you still have to cook, yes for the family true that ya


so when you are lazy, so when you're lazy you know uh lazy to cook lazy just don't want to do anything, at the end of the day you still suffer , how about you


consequences, really


ya parking all this are very expensive, so you find that uh actually you were lazy lah to to to to take the public transport right so you rather drive ya eh it happens it happens, true that you know I think uh


you are lazy to walk, to the MRT station to take the public transport to find easily we usually take Grab and all that, at the end of the day ah you find that uh taking Grab is more and you spend more on that, you could be spending


three to six hundred dollars you know by just that particular month by taking Grab, true, I have a friend who doesn't take bus she doesn't take, public transport so she'll and to and through she'll take Grab


so she told me she spend about six hundred, ya on transport alone, so you see she could have uh just you know invested the money or do something get her something, herself


there's a lot of things that you can buy, ya true, very true, yes, okay if you could change any professional sport to make it more interesting, what would you change


ya, true me too that's why I don't like ya, I got hit by the hockey stick, ya when when we were in primary two


ya I remember, on the leg, on the leg, so I that's why I don't like sports, I mean, hence from that time onwards when playing this volleyball basketball and all that in school


that that that actually ya that actually change my perception about all this ball game, until, until I have my girls, ya I don't have boys but my girls, they they love the basketball so much


and then another one with the soccer and the touch rugby, but what would I change any professional sport to make it more interesting, cause I'm not so into it I wouldn't want to change anything I don't have (ppb) ya


I just leave it, that interest is not there because you don't have the interest in it right ya, but anyways uh it's good to see girls playing, you know into soccer, something ya different nowadays we have lots of girls playing soccer


ya your question ya


how could an average, what could it be ah


how can an object be if it's a lot bigger and a lot smaller


ya, I prefer what, I prefer it's a if it's a washing machine, ya you know if it's portable and then uh it's easier when you travel you can bring it along


right but if and then if it's a lot bigger even your blankets and all that all the the heavy blankets you can wash at one go, you don't have to send to the shop I mean depending on the KG of it ya


yes, is a hassle isn't it and it's more and it's expensive, okay mine right or yours, mine okay come up with an origin story for an idiom


oh no, ya, what could an E


remember any idioms , okay


ya I guess, I can't think of a proper idiom at the moment I mean you have to come up with its origin story for an idiom I think it takes a while but , seriously I think we have to skip this


ya, come back to that okay ya okay then next


I'll take the telephone , I would take the, I'll take two, I take two phones so that I can pass it to the you know to the ones I love ya


to communicate with them, right, isn't it easier then you will know where we are and we will know where they are and uh we can always keep in touch I mean those years


those times, is so hard to actually communicate with one another, ya but yet the bond is closer compared to now ya even though we have the telephone, we can easily communicate but the bond it's it's so difficult to


to build ya to forge the bond true, how about you


air fryer, why


right, okay , okay assuming you could ignore a single law of nature, what invention would you like to create


ya assuming you could ignore a single law of nature what invention would you like to create


what is it growing actually, a plant, oh that's interesting


yes, true that's interesting ya, oh okay


well eventually eventually you will, true that ya, as for me I wish I could go back in time you know go back, to the past to meet the people that we love


ya to be with them, just to tell them once again that you miss them that you, that you love them, time machine


you've seen I mean we have seen movies of that sort where they go into the future or back in the olden days you know, and you wish if if it's real how could you know how nice it would be, just to see


the people that you love that are gone you know once again, ya, okay, your question


achievement, personally, I have like like I I I mean I've achieved something


in life right, I mean uh I've become, I I never expect that I'll be a writer ya, to be a writer I never expected that I'll be uh, I'll get the outstanding mother tongue language teacher award


but ya so it's something that is beyond you know, uh expectation I never expect, but I think uh at every point, there is a certain point in life where


you've realize that you have, you have an achievement you know whether it's known or unknown whether it's, published unpublished you know there is an achievement ya, yourself


ya, alright how old is he, oh okay, Alhamdulillah


that's ya, oh that's interesting, okay next, ah K what is one of the weirdest things that you have Googled recently


ya, weirdest things that you have Googled recently, what could you have Googled recently


okay , same


ya, ah K


okay, for myself I like to Google uh, translation, I will come out with a sentence and then I will either uh translate, that sentence or find some words you know then I will actually use it


I would actually because I like to write you know I like to write, and sometimes when I pour out my feelings I don't want people to know, ya and I know people are usually lazy to actually Google so


so they won't know what is it that I write, ya and I have certain there is a certain place that I write there are some people who will read but they won't know what is it, so that's what that's something weird lah you know people don't do what


it could be any I will just come out with any sometimes it's Latin sometimes, something that uh people would not wouldn't wouldn't guess, ya wouldn't guess, ya like all those Roman kind of thing yup


all these different, I will use them, it's just to pour out pour out my feelings and it's my personal story usually, ya, so it's something that I can vent out, but you know but use a different language to express


ya , yes weird right that's really weird


okay by accident I guess, is when I started, when I started to (ppb) uh be a preschool educator that was in the year nineteen ninety one they were looking for teachers so I just happened to call and got the job


that's where it's it all began, in nineteen ninety one so how many years is that until now ya, right, yes but of course I mean


but besides that I've already uh I have I'm not the sort that who will stick to one, I you know I I've I've done a lot of other things besides, being a preschool educator, and uh I have been in uh sales I've been into


sales as in from door to door doing uh cold calls and all that telemarketing I've been in uh, I I've been in the maid agency I was a maid agent running the business on my own and uh even the license was under my name


and uh ya so I've dealt with uh maids employers, I've dealt with uh when I was running the school canteen for about six years also, so I have uh, I've gone into different pathways ya different careers in my life


and these are all the different challenges which I face and I find it very interesting because I can, share all the uh my experiences with people and I know what it's like to you know be in all that, and the last was being an author to three you know to three books my three babies the three books ya


so, something that I have achieved, it's not easy, it's cause I always believe that you know if you don't stay in your comfort zone for too long you know you shouldn't be comfortable at all times, you have to challenge yourself


to do certain things then you know where you are good at what you are good at what are your abilities and capabilities you are, you don't know yourself, ya what about you


right


to work, right, right, okay my next question is in what small meaningless ways have you rebelled


okay mine is usually during my secondary school days


that I can remember very clearly, because uh as you know being teenagers you tend to be rebellious , so like not following the school rules and regulation it's a common thing I think and it's a common thing among teenagers


and ya so, it's meaningless but of course it's something that you can never forget you know, it it it it's not that uh you just you just just being naughty ah just being naughty


ya just being naughty but, ya just you just want to know what it's like you know you just want to be adventurous ya so you tend to to go against, the adults you tend to go against uh your parents you tend to go against your teachers you know


so I think it's a common thing


informing right, okay, what dreams from childhood


actually I cannot remember what's my childhood dream , what I dreamt to be, you know when I was a little girl no I I can't remember


teenage ah oh I I ever uh okay when I was in secondary five someone ask me, if in the future you get married, uh will you marry a Singaporean


and I say no I will never marry a Singaporean, I will marry a Malaysian and true enough that came true , that came true and I married a, because you know I love to travel I like to travel by bus I love to travel uh


by plane by car especially car I enjoy the sceneries so, I uh during my secondary years I've always been traveling during the school holidays, ya from one end of Malaysia to the other end of Malaysia so it's like I enjoyed that so I was I hope I I hope I will marry a Malaysian so that I can travel


so ended up ya I marry a Malaysian so that's a dream come true , okay that's my last question anyway


oh that's your question is that your last question, oh okay


fair children, I have one last one, ya if you drop ya I if you drop everything to follow your dreams what would you risk


if you drop everything to follow your dreams what would you risk


ya, face and trust


okay , I actually dream to travel, ya I want to travel the world, but if I were to do that, I'll be leaving my family behind


ya I actually dream to not just travel just as in travel but to work, elsewhere, ya but I know my husband allows me to do that, but that would risk ya a big risk which I have to take


that means leaving my family my girls behind, leaving my parents, which, which I don't think I'll be able to do that lah, ya so it's just a dream


ya that's my last question, the end, past five years, okay, five sentences


I have made changes to myself, I have improved, my life, I have achieved


quite a number of things, for the past five years, I I have I won the outstanding mother tongue language teacher award I wrote three books I published three books


and my girls are grown up they, I have proven that whatever path we have spoken when they were in primary years, and I see it now I know I didn't see it coming through for them


right and , I I hope to, to continue, to share, my love and care


and uh, I hope, my son's foster sons, will come back to me, again ya


okay


right, is more chatty now


this is the third one, uh okay


right, okay, yes alright ya okay


hello, okay perhaps a, student's education


it's more on my children you know, their achievement ya, if you gonna refer to mine I think nothing much, you have


ya, ya I think now okay it when we were in secondary I remembered that uh school ends at one, right one ten the latest and then we have our CCA which is will start at two


and or Cs right, oh okay maybe for NPCC we have you you all have your CCA which starts only at two but for ours uh the in the band


we have twice in a week, twice only in a week and our CCA yes we have one in on weekday and another it would be on the Saturday, so one the weekday usually my CCA is starts at two and ends at five, after that we go home


uh and then the Saturday it's only basically it's half half the morning is marching, and after that is, playing the instrument and we end at twelve but as for now, as for now from what I know uh CCA is like


uh I played the saxophone, I was a saxophonist, so for those years when I was in CCA we had twice in a week


only on Tuesday and on Saturday but nowadays CCA, starts very late, in fact some starts only at three, and it will end off very late


so the school hours actually it it doesn't end at one, you know uh other days when we don't have CCA one o-clock one ten we are already at home, by two o-clock we should be at home already, ya and we are enjoying that those hours during uh our ya


me time yes we can uh actually do our our homework uh revise our work because we have so much time, but you know we we we we have children who are going for tuition and all that but nowadays, the CCA ends very late school hours already ends sometimes at two


or two thirty then you have CCA that follows after that, which would end very late and then on top that CCA children have to go for tuition, right and all the different types if they have some other extra extra


ya activities which they have to to go for like piano lesson whatever lesson that parents uh you know want to cater for them, right, on top of that you have to have the exam


nope I remembered during our time we only had test remember, we have class test right just minor class test, nowadays like, we also ya we have the mid year and the final year but we don't have the CA


CA one CA two that kind, right, ya ours is just basically like okay end of this topic the teacher will set up some question and then there will be a test, class test


but now, ya, but now they have the CA one they have CA two, for before the final year exam and then they also have uh, that is before before the recent changes that MOE has set up


but from what I understand right, there'll be, if there is no mid year exam there'll be more curriculum time, more curriculum curriculum time and more CCA time


so whether they are going to the changes made, is it going to be better, or worst is still is still not sure yet, because our system everytime change within the five years ya


so in the end of that five year, then only you will be able to tell whether it works or it doesn't work, ya, so it's quite worrying actually for the children


ya, no point, but I I'm I'm not sure but uh what I heard is uh there's going to be lots of outdoor


engagement ya but the thing is uh, it has to be whatever it is changes they are going to make it it has to be interesting, and the children must be able to enjoy that you know and lessons shouldn't be a touch and go kind of lesson


ya because there okay for instance like now, in the uh preschool, will the children are learning a certain topic, today but tomorrow you are not repeating the same topic again


ya so and then when they go to primary school they are expected, to know certain thing, you know by primary so that is why uh they actually the government actually abolish the primary one uh


uh exams because when the transition from kindergarten to the primary school right, there is a difference, because we are told not to teach not to give them spelling we are told not to teach certain things we are told that children should learn up to certain numbers only


so yes so those schools that adhere to the, uh MOE guideline, they will follow closely to Acta and MOE guideline, right so the problem is at the end of the day is the children again


it will either they gain or they lost so it all depends on the school that they attended to, so they go to primary one we still have children who can't read can't write and don't understand, so it also applies to not only just the English language but as well as the mother tongue language


that's where children will struggle that is why at primary one children are still not developed properly, ya it's a bit slow so that's why there's no examination so they starting to learn all over again


and then uh it all again it all depends on which schools they are coming from which kindergarten they are coming from, and some children don't go to kindergarten, you know ya but actually kindergarten uh is


is a must to attend, okay


but now it's compulsory to attend kindergarten ya, oh okay


right, oh okay, ya actually uh, as long as there is guidance form home right


and they are paying attention and these children are well uh taught in school they don't need tuition, ya seriously because again right again it all depends on the teacher that's teaching


how the teacher teach is very important, and how the children are going to response to it, cause like my daughter always says that , seriously I don't understand maths I don't understand my maths teacher


nobody in the class understand, the only one's who will pass were only one or two children that's what she said you know when she comes home, I say so when I want to know anything about maths I will ask another teacher, so you see it all depends