you know, ya so that would be one thing for me, what is your, what is your I know it sounds weird but just try it think, a lot of things


the question is, what is your, , either, I know it sounds weird but just try it think but there's a lot of, you know thing that you say it sounds weird but just try it know we will say it to each other, so what is one thing


, what is your, okay what what okay you know there is many weird things that we do right, that people don't know, so what is one thing that people don't know but you still let people do and you let people try your weird thing


okay, ya I do, , is not a shame actually it's just that K never mind lah just ya


it's K for what they're trying to say is right is like something that you know is weird but you let others try it, okay then then in the freak case ya lah, for me is


I don't have any like in food why because whatever that people you'd like people don't like right so in a sense that you let them try the food, then they start to like it like you know it's weird at first because they don't like it you know, you would allow them to try food stuff


okay your next question, imagine something


(uh huh), what do you mean,


(mmhmm)


okay, ya I do in my one would be my boyfriend lah, because I'm very dependent on him, so lah I expect him to do it for me but in actual fact that he won't do it you know


so in a sense that he won't do it meaning like I can do it by myself but at the same time I still expect him so in that sense he won't do it because all this while he has been doing it for me, so given the choice he won't do it lah so I have to be independent from now then you know


ya next question, okay


take an interview of a person in a group, mean to say the attributes is very villain ish lah, Mustafa


like a person in a group, okay I will tell my friend lah another one of my friend


supervillain in the sense where, , very rude, you know, and very


egoistic in the sense that everything should be given, so her first, you know, ya, yourself


, superior, superior like very dominating lah


K mine is what is one thing that you wish was free, for me would be ya, one thing that you wish it was free, a lot of thing, okay for me would be most okay like two things lah for me


facial products, food, food because that's what we eat everyday right so maybe free in a sense where you know not so expensive because nowadays food price is really very high, you have to think before buying you know


in the sense where if it was free it would already benefit everyone, another thing is facial products lah it's highly expensive and that is something we all need for all our faces, so if that was free then ya it would be happy


, yourself,


okay, okay


must be the same phrase all the time is it


I want free money good skincare, body goals, clear skin GPA four point zero


I think something ya like what you want and it has to be said for very long, every time we say it ya


okay then in that case then what's your answer, , okay can I come back to that, cause if it's like a phrase then if it's supposed to be an English phrase then I don't know what is it lah


cause it's been many years since my English times were over, ya, so next question, oh you want to say your answer


did you put it aside cause those two question is yours K, K so my question is would you want to change your destined career or destined demise, would you want to change your career, or your fate


correct, okay so for me it will also be the same lah career because, fate is something like like what you say everyone will face ups and downs so that one even for us we cannot change


but in terms of career you know even we also we have, we have gone through this thought process of changing career at least once in our life, so in that sense ya I would want to change my career because I have other choices for career, ya


okay, next question me or you, okay, every morning you can take a twenty minutes sneaks, peak sneak sneak peak at the upcoming days what time do you look at


correct, correct, ya, for me okay this can come two ways lah because if I see myself in the working perspective as a nurse or something right


I would want it to be in the morning because depends on what time my duty starts so at least I can prepare myself you know, if not for that if not for the career wise then a normal person way then, afternoon or night you know cause morning I'm not a morning person to begin with lah


so ya afternoon or night, okay the next question


the part where I go through a lot of difficulties and the how I manage to come out of it, yourself, nice


okay why do men take part, , okay


okay, okay my question is tell a story about a time when you when you made someone else stay, yup


okay you have to tell me a story of it


, okay, I think I've made everyone stay every time, because I'm actually people make fun of me know so, you know they laugh and all it doesn't hurt me obviously so you know when you laugh it's uh it makes you


~py in that sense, but in terms of , hello, okay, symptoms of a story I have actually a lot lah depends on which one you wanna hear career wise normal life


you tell, both is fine, okay I'll just tell normal one lah it's like ya like what you say we're there you're there for a person right, ya like when the person is really not feeling herself


oh, you know just when they need, someone to talk to you know I've been there, to just hear the person's uh I mean I obviously don't give the best advises lah like not not only to my friends my boyfriend my mother everyone


but I know that towards all this [pe] all these times right whenever they want to tell people, I believe I was there to hear them out, , again next


how to, help people with mental how to help them overcome it you know I be I think I still need, because, how to say, , I wanna know how to talk to people who are going through a mental process you know


like they're going through difficulty a mental way, so how to help people in that that's one skill, another one is to read people's mind, if that's a skill like you know how to understand what the other party is saying you know uh another way of communicating


and then another one will be, make up I wanna do good make up, skills, yourself


(mmhmm)


okay can, okay my next question is how do you accomplish something that you thought would be impossible, oh my God I wanted to say that


I want to


, , ya I would also say the same thing I mean there's a lot of instances in life where you know


a lot of things that we don't but something that I'm really proud of myself until now is that, you know after secondary school because I was always seen as very dumb person in secondary school I mean until now but, you know from that level then I went on to ITE then there were still people degrading me so even at that point of time


you know comparing myself to others who studied I did, pretty well compared to them, and then that's why I came to Poly which I never thought would be possible lah, you know when I left secondary school, so, and I'm doing well in Poly you know so it's like


the, how to say you know like I'm constantly I'm not doing perfectly fine but, at least the effort is there because at least show that I'm making effort I'm making improvements, so this is something I will never forget lah


okay, my next question, if a genie gives you the address of your true love, but they are on the other side of the world what do you do, a genie gives you the address of them but they are at the other part of the world meaning you are away in Singapore but they are somewhere else very far from you


what would you do, (mmhmm)


, okay, it depends lah for me depends on at which, part of my life am I at right now if I'm, fulfilling something like if I'm like you know if I have to consider of my career at that point in time


then I wouldn't go and search for it lah but given the fact that I am able to do it, then okay but I want that person to approach me because I'm never a person who approach someone I mean in the sense in love, I would want a guy to come and approach to me lah


not a girl, to go then ya given the fact the the guy doesn't know, so it's cause it's only me mah so he doesn't know, so ya I would go but also at the same time depending at which part of life am I at


you know, ya thank you, okay your turn, I think I would say forty fifty


stop aging how old right, in that sense okay I would say forty because that's the age that I would have children and all


you know so uh if I wants to stop there then I would stop at the part where my life is going well, you know then I would stop aging there lah, yourself, okay


okay for myself is, what music could you play to drastically change the vibe of any situation, yes


would play guitar, nice


, , I don't really know the names of any instruments or anything lah because I I don't really like anything about music but, drums all you know anything like that any soothing kind of no drums are not


next question, what is the most frustrated you have been with a person


what is the most frustrated you've ever been with a person, you have been with a person


where you dominating, like even though I'm wrong he keep telling me that I'm wrong I know I'm wrong but, you know what I mean, ya correct I think we can end the call right now because my card have finish


okay please answer, five years is it, okay, amazing


painful, amazing painful, beautiful


, worries a lot of worries, happiness, ya, yourself


(mmhmm), (mmhmm), five words, oh nice okay


without worrying about money, , let me think, K doing community services


ya, because, I mean K given that fact that I also do all these in my career also right so given the fact to do it for free, I would do it, you know ya because it's very hard follow you know it doesn't only help one person but it helps a lot of people you know


ya, ya,


okay, embarrassing


three people cannot take a photo together, ya, yourself


nice, okay,


okay if like you are going back into right then I think the only thing is like a time machine that will make you go back and, you know, okay fine whatever K let's just say it's a time machine, K next


the face, I want to go home sleep, ya, okay then tell me what are you thinking


okay then tell me what, if it's meant to be it will be


okay are we done, okay, see you outside don't hang up the phone


no it's okay ah, hello, ya, okay so okay so the time now is twelve twenty two ah so one hour from here is one twenty two, from there we stop we try to stop at one forty five


okay, ya, okay so you want to start first by CCA, okay just talk everything your past CCA


okay


ya I do


of course ya of course, ya, like it was very fun because there's one thing that we look forward to after a long day at school cause you know it's just very boring with all the lessons and all


so ya


okay, okay so my term was usually start from sec one lah okay let's start from primary school okay, so primary school I was not really interested in CCA but I was forced to take up a CCA because


you know you have to do it like so in that sense I joined library club , , okay so as a library club I was a librarian so I had to help put the books on the shelf very boring lah actually


but one thing was that , I could get access to all books so I could see all kinds of books and all that, okay then after that when I think in secondary school I think it was secondary school I like dancing so I joined


modern dance, but of course I regretted it because the the club was very racist, number one that was number one number two was it was just not my type lah to begin with, so after that I joined


Indian dance when I was sec two, and it was really like, uh, life changing kind of thing you know (ppc) because, first of all people there, **


what, I saw it, the teachers there, , ya they are actually very, how to say very, friendly you know they are they they are not like teachers kind of people you know they are very


very motivating very very nice people lah so you know with teachers like that want to make you go more talk to them more you know, so that's the reason why I joined it's because of them because of the teachers, so, we started then I started to you know read Indian dance


and then at first it was very scary lah because when I was a sec two, there were many seniors like you know sec four sec five people so they were quite scary, then after that when I was sec three and all then we became the seniors there so we had our seniors then it was very fun because we had the chance to


show our leadership skills to show our talent then there were a lot of dance practices and ya like what you say was, really a lot of fun to look forward to you know, so uh in that sense where Indian dance was really the most memorable time for me


that the most memorable time I had in my secondary school lah a lot of things happen here a lot of memories were made here, a lot of things you know we we also got hurt you know we also were hurt by each other, we also hated by each but that was okay it was really fun


ya then coming back to like Poly okay first my ITE lah in ITE I didn't, okay my first year I had A CCA, so my CCA is called interact club lah so basically the the job scope of this like the CCA is like basically it's like


okay something like nursing where we go out forward to help everyone you know, so in my CCA interact club there were like four parts lah, so meaning to say three parts were to help the elderly, hello, ya so three parts were to help the elderly then one part is to help


mental students in need you know, so it's like we went to school like there was one school for this club to like I forgot the name, minds school is it or one of the school lah we know it's for ya it's for children who are mentally disabled children


so that CCA was really like, a, eye opener for me because that's the first time I went to this kind of school, so when I went there for the first time right, it was really like a eye opener because I already saw the difficulties they had but despite the difficulties they were really enjoying themselves you know


you know everyone were playing with each other, you know they had nothing against each other they were really very fun people and when we started talking to them, it seems like you are just talking to a normal person you know it doesn't bring the fact that they are actually mentally disabled


it's just people who you know blame them it's like it's like you know they just put the the the title on them but to be really honest, they they are not you know the way they speak to you and all so in that sense it was a very good experience for me lah that I went there and all, so that CCA was really nice I also had overnight camps at school


because uh in ITE they have camps and all so I had to go camping with my friends, who were in the CCA as me lah so it was very fun you know we had to be in the same room, you know like how you went overseas trip something like that


so ya, then after that year two I did not join A CCA I quitted I mean I didn't really quit because they changed the name of the CCA into retract club, where it was more of,


brigade services you know, ah so I didn't really like it so I quitted, and then coming back to Poly times like right now in my course it's too busy so I didn't really take up a CCA lah


okay so shall we move on to the the next one, okay, so tuition and enrichment classes, (mmhmm)


okay, okay for myself is I'm I like what you say I I also not so good in academic lah if you know, so in a sense that


my parents really never bothered about tuition classes because they were not well to do in the first place to begin with lah they would have other expenses to, concentrate on so they didn't have time for me for tuition classes anything, until the point of time I think uh P five or P six you know they have parents meeting


so my mom was called by my teacher and my teacher was really like , and first I bring to my mother saying that I really need tuition I really need some, form of help because I'm very weak and all that, so that's when my mom really like put in effort into finding a tuition teacher and all that lah


so I started my first tuition in P, five, but that was through RC these like community tuition thing which never really work out for me because it was in a group, so


the focus was not on me it was on everyone else and of course when I was a first timer there, everyone else were more faster than me, so I couldn't catch up and obviously didn't work out lah so, (ppc), it didn't work out for me lah so I told my mother and I quitted that


and then we move on to private tuition, it didn't really help me because I only had that like a few months before my PSLE, so, it was effective but, didn't really help me lah because it was few months before so maybe if I had that like almost for a year or what


would have been helpful, then after primary school my parents forgot about tuition and I also didn't want any tuition because instead independent age you know where, I also not bothered about anything and my parents also didn't really bother my mother let me go carefree, and I


didn't really needed tuition although I was not doing so well but it was not necessary lah at that point of time after you know when I moved on into secondary school, so my last tuition was P six ya


but to what I really like want what I really want to do is to actually give tuition to people which I can't do it because, you know you know but I've always wanted to teach people you know give tuition, yes correct like you know in


it's something where you learn then you're providing the same knowledge to people you know, correct so it's like very easy lah like I would prefer to be a tuition teacher given the fact, if it was uh you know if I was given the ability to teach lah


ya, , ya


, K maybe because, their our parents are not expose lah to all these kind of things you know compared, to other people age but also in that sense where we had a lot of these in secondary school, we had music lessons we had swimming lessons also in sec two I think


so that, it obviously wasn't of a big help but it was a great form of entertainment for me, know it was like a destress from that academic stuff lah, , okay other than that in secondary school in primary school I had in this I had this lesson of African drumming


it was actually very fun because I learnt about African drums, so given the fact that if I was if I was given that drum right now I will still know how to use it because I was taught that in primary school you know


ya, okay moving on parent teacher meetings I had a very bad time with this I hate parent teacher meetings, K so I say first you say first


so the worst parent teacher meeting I had was in sec two when my usually is only my mother who comes lah, so my mom is care free like she wouldn't really bother but my father is not like that, he is very strict, so in sec two


my father also came along for the parent teacher meeting, and it was really very traumatising because my teacher really complaint a lot, she complain about my hair my everything you know, so, (ppc)


hello, so ya given the fact that my father is very strict right it was very traumatising because, he really scolded me a lot, you know so it was very a very bad experience because I was really punished a lot you know punished


like I couldn't go out normally I couldn't, go out to meet my friends or I couldn't do anything like what I can do anymore, cause at that point of time he was very strict, so ya that was one very bad experience for me lah


and I hate this and I hate this thing where in Singapore they they organise this , parent teacher meetings and, they just complain like what usually teacher do is just complain but they don't state the positive, of any student I mean they do in the report book but it's not as much as the negative lah


like instead of emphasizing the on the negativity so much I think they should also like, care about the student what the student going through you know, I feel I feel like Singapore should change this, this parent teacher maybe into a more


positive view, yourself your experience of parent teacher meetings


okay, traumatising for you as well lah, okay so shall we move on to exams, okay, so you want to begin first


another you don't want to finish everything is it, okay can, K but let's come back there again because of the time, okay so latest make up or skincare trends


okay let me know from you because I believe from me right from uh Frencha I believe you know more about this, you educate yourself more, me


okay for me make up, uh, I always believe that there's no point investing so much on make up you know, like if you can get the same thing in a cheaper way why not, so I always go for drugstore first


compared to, the higher end I mean I obviously would want higher end also lah but it's about the cost you know, because it's very expensive, but in that sense at drugstore there's a lot of products at drugstore lah that I have tried so so far I have tried LA girl


you know all those a lot of different different Brands, so, , what I usually do is, I stop wearing make up already lah but in the day that I wear make up I will just go with foundation concealer


making powder, eyebrows lipsticks, ya, ya that that's like a full face for me, cause when I wear make up I go full face I don't just, go with either just foundation or concealer cause it doesn't look nice on me it doesn't turn out nice


, that's why I want to look for another type of make up maybe BB cream, because I've heard to be use that BB cream conceals everything, gives you the same thing as like a foundation but it's like a lighter coverage which I don't mind


because I'm very tired of always going full face even though I do not want to go full face but I have no choice you know, so in that sense I've wanted to try BB cream and it's also one of the latest trends you know a lot of people wearing BB cream and all that


so that's one of the latest make up trend that I want to try, skincare right now my face is breaking out a lot lah but I have actually seen differences in my face in the sense where, I used to have scars pimple scars


it's currently going away, so, , I actually think tea tree oil have helped me for that, you know and also when I have pimples I use tea tree oil so in that sense tea tree oil is very good you know another skincare trend is


right now everyone want's to glow, ya I also want to glow, so, in that sense where I always wanted a glowing, , kind of face something that will make the face very moisturize, you know like a glow means your face is you know hydrated it's clean and it's feeling good you know feeling soft and all that


ya and I have dry skin so even if I want to glow I can never have a glow because my face is always dry, so


, ya make sense also lah, ya make sense so your point, and also tell your favourite brands and all


(mmhmm)


ya I agree,


true


(mmhmm), ya


ya true


what's your favourite skincare, routine, oh like what what are the Brands you use or what are the brands that you wanna use, means what is it that you currently using


okay, okay, okay moving on, , entertainment


okay which movies TV shows we talk about everything lah cause we watch all three, okay, okay in terms of movies recently, okay my ever favourite movie can we talk about Tamil movie okay we just talk about English movie okay


ya my ever favourite movie will be in terms of English I think recently would be Jumanji, have you watch the movie, yup, Jumanji, so it's actually very funny it's like this group of school kids lah


where, they have to go through a punishment because they did a mistake lah, so a group of five five people it's like a detention you know, so they will be doing doing detention in this uh room where nobody will be in the room they have to like clean up the room, so they will find this uh video player


L C D kind of thing so in that group of five people right two people are addicted to video game, so basically when they find something their first instant reaction is to play it, so the moment they play it right when they press this button all five of them get


suck into the TV, so leaving them on this island, , hello, hello, hello


ya, okay, so it's very interesting in a sense where because once you are in they are literally in the game right, so if they want to get out they have to play the entire game first, okay so that's the that's about the movie lah about how they play the game and how they get out of this place so it's very interesting


very funny I like funny English movies, so that movie was very funny to me lah that's one movie, TV shows I watch ways Anthony, I have been watching it straight for about, six months now


actually not, about, about eight months lah, I started in February, so, until now, so in this eight months I have watched ten seasons, so I am in my ten season now it's very nice because it's a medical show and given the fact that I work in the medical line


I like it because I can relate to almost all the things there, you know the diagnosis the way they take care of the patient the way they talk you know it's very relatable, so I like the show because of that and the people there are very how to say like you know the more you watch the show the more you get addicted to it because it is nice


ya that's why I am going to lah so Grace and the maids one show that I will, never stop watching, in terms of drama English drama would be nothing much I watch Korean drama sometimes but I deviate already


, okay maybe another show would be big bang theory, is this group of friends where they all are together they all are roommates, so it's like they live together very very very epic roommates lah, so,


ya it's just a show about all of them lah their lives and all it's very funny, ya so this are the three top ones that I watch lah, yourself


, (mmhmm)


, yup yup,


, okay


okay, okay so let's move on to hobbies, so what do you like to do in your free time


there's a lot of things lah, okay maybe okay let's say you're free today you're free today so tell me the routine for the entire day


, like oh you sleep okay,


okay, , okay for myself is right I sleep a lot because I believe that, I just don't like I'm not a morning person to begin with and I don't like waking up so early in the morning because there's nothing much to do lah like


ruin it just ruins everything you know, so I would really have a very good sleep that I will I must be satisfied with the sleep that I have, so like for example if I'm not doing anything today then I'll wake up around twelve plus, so


I will always be stuck to my phone, you know, so maybe one is about like one or two I start washing myself up I start cleaning the house I like cleaning the house I like to do, I like to do house chores, but it should not be forced


you know, ya, so if I'm, able to do if I'm not lazy I'll start doing house chores I'll start cleaning up, if I have the time to cook I'll try my best to cook, you know because I'm free you know so I'll try to cook for my family


, like what they say, goes back to you know watching shows watching, movies and all that, ya other than that I just mostly sleep lah, ya but about me a person for okay basically I'm the kind of person who


I could spend a lot of time with people, like in the event where if I if I only have to spend one hour with you, I wouldn't mind but it depends on which person you are, you know so it's like even if that one hour counts if you matters if you then obviously I would lah


but even the choice where you know for what must we wait for it's just one hour you know, I wouldn't really meet you because I would like to spend more hours with you, you know, so ya I like spending a lot of time with people


so, and I would expect it the same from other people lah because that's what I want from them you know, then, , hello, ya, so ya that's about it lah actually


ya, okay what do you like to do to relax not the same things, ya it's it's the same ya


but we don't really relax lah like, I I believe, ya correct, ya but for me, if I really wanted to relax relax right I always wanted to go for a staycation or you know a vacation or somewhere from Singapore


a place where I don't do the normal things because I know that if I'm at home that's not called relaxing to me because I do the same things everyday, so if I really want to go relax then I would want to go overseas where it's a new environment new place, know the time you saw me that kind of thing, ya, that would be my so called relaxing lah


ya, (ppb), ya , okay, what do you do every weekend I meet


a constant person every weekend, yourself, the constant person is you


please hold on, okay, , I mean I wouldn't say it's nice I think it's just putting in effort because we know what a nerd is and we know what


a nerd not is you know, yup, and I think at this point of time in life we have to do that you know, , okay nice, moving on we have another


forty minutes to go, okay, , what are the activities you recommend for individuals or families


, like a spa is it


, ya


okay, , for myself, for individuals ya I recommend massage lah like you know again when you are stress you know, massage really really helps you to like destress you know like your muscles are really tense you know


even without you realising you know even though you sit down all the way nine to five job sitting down even ten your muscles will be tense, your muscles , , I know


hello


hello, call me back, new muscles, ya it will be very tensed up lah okay, so in that sense I think massage will be very very relaxing for a person like that for an individual


as friends as a group and family I will recommend Karaoke bowling, , picnics, vacation staycation you know as a family together


as a family you can do a lot of things you know because you are going together so, you know it's as a whole you know you're you are spending time together so I think any activity that you find is should be fun lah, ya


but I think the nicest one is Karaoke because, you know some singing not everyone can sing right, so maybe people that you don't know can sing in your family you can realize that oh my God they can sing you know on that day when you go out with them, and people who cannot sing can make fun of them you know so it's a very fun environment Karaoke


so that's fun I believe, bowling is also fun because someone win someone lose you know all of that, , ya if you have the money if you can afford it you can go for staycation that will be even more fun because you're going out of another country


oh you know, ya that's about it lah for family fun, I've always wanted a family outing because I've seen a lot of my people a lot of my friends cousin all, they always have family reunions we


you know family always going out together very united family lah, so I've always wanted that because I believe a family time is very precious it's very important and, you can not get family time with anybody else I mean friends is friends family is family you know


so the time that you spend with family is very different from the time that you spend with friends, , so in the sense if you can have a very good bonding time with your parents your siblings then it's actually very good you know, so it's kind of nice to see families


you know reuniting and all that, , ya, ya, sorry, okay it says


, I don't know it's all about art and culture your fitness and sports I don't do fitness and sports, ya it's just a one day thing lah so, so it's not a one day thing meaning I just went one day


I guess I can say about my mother lah for my mother she was at sixty, P G, okay, so she had a a lot of post pregnancy weight meaning to say even though there was like there was like after


ten years later she started gyming lah but then the post pregnancy hello, ya so the post pregnancy weight even though it's been ten years right it will still be there you know it just added on to more of her weight you know, so


hello, okay okay, so she started gyming and then when she first weigh herself it was sixty KG, okay, so within three months she moved to forty seven


that's a lot of weight loss so, , what she usually do is incline you know the treadmill, she does a lot of jumping jacks, squats a lot of push ups pull ups a lot of things lah


uh, idea is for okay one of it is to be fit but another idea of hers is to really lose a lot of weight, since that since that she has achieved her goal lah, ya and she even though she has achieved her goal right


she is doing this gym as a daily thing and she doesn't seem to stop you know I talk to her about it she doesn't want to stop this even when she becomes older, so when she gets to a point where if she is unable to do her normal stuff she would just do simple things, so in a sense she really likes gyming lah it's gyming is like an addiction you know because you see changes


changes changes so you like it you know, , ya another addiction would be doing make up


I think people who really fantasise make up they like to do make up for themselves do make up for others until they even take it up to career I mean, really nice for them because make up does change you you know it makes you look better and all obviously with the proper things that you have lah and the proper way of applying so


that's also one good addiction you know, any other addiction you know, that is positive


, you just very confident lah, negative and positive ya


understandable, okay, okay shall we move on to education students it's about exams courses


yup, okay so far what I know in terms of Poly, and uni I think the most difficult course would be, accounting lah you know you know having the experience of someone who does it I think it's quite difficult


another difficult course I would say would be this , biomedical engineering actually engineering is, even though a lot of people


I've seen people struggle and the contents of the job I I ya of the course actually, ya, for yourself, , correct


, yup


, correct


okay what do you think is a very easy course in Poly or uni, , , okay, , I mean that's of course lah it's your own but from what people thought right


people say that nursing is the most easiest because to them nursing doesn't involve, it does involve science, but it's not so much you know you know what I mean, I mean for me for a person who have come for it it's a lot of science lah right but for people who see it outside right


they just see there's a skill of helping others and do a very simple task that everyone can do, which I agree everyone can do but not everyone can do the same way as how it is taught you know, , so they find nursing as easy


easy course but I would say no because from outside of course even before I start I would I thought it was easy, but when you really go deep into the course when you really learn more about it then you know that it's not easy because there's uh there's a lot of


underlying information you know, ya in that sense ya lah,


(mmhmm), you have to sneeze that's one thing that people don't understand, they they they think that you know there's something that people don't realise lah and it's just not on patients but it's on, everyone else you know if a patient means patients ready for the involve


patients doctor would be move patients you know everyone you know, quite a lot of things but ya it's just you know you will know your struggle than others


okay, money would be my biggest worry, cause, to face this is a hard truth lah in Singapore without money is very hard to survive very hard


like you cannot survive without money ah, so two things here will be money and education, if you do not have the proper education you would not have a proper job a proper paying job, you cannot survive because you don't you do not have a proper paying job and you do not have the money


ya, so in the sense where even for example my school you know even though I seek help from, many areas many financial centers, a lot of I just got rejected and, we know now right now I have to pay my hand cash you know because


nobody will pay it's a big amount, nobody will sponsor the big amount, and it's something where you have no choice but to pay by our own hand cash, even that applies to uni Poly everywhere else lah, so in that sense where it's in Singapore if you do not have money is a very big worry


so even at least for that least, you have to, realise that you have to have a proper job, you know ya that's one of my biggest worries lah, and a proper life


you know even though money is one thing we can we can be the most richest people but if you don't have a life for yourself then, that will be very sad you know, cause you have everything else but not proper life in your hand, biggest worry will be that too


yup, ya, correct


correct, correct another biggest worry is my parents' age lah


my mom's age you know a lot of things about them because as they age they get more problems you know, and especially in Singapore I feel like Singapore is a country where, you cannot be having like there will be no way you are really very clean and healthy


there will be in some form of way where you will have a lot of diseases you will either have high blood pressure diabetes or, you know a lot of things because of the way, this country is the food and all that


ya of course, ya, , ,


ya it's true because I you know because I'm in the line right so I see a lot of people who are mentally, mentally and physically well they will just come for checkup or normal thing then they will, go out with a thing that they have this they have that then they have to come back for more things again, you know that's the life of many people here


so it's like even when you think you are perfectly fine the truth is you're not you know, so in that sense it is also one of your bigger worry lah because you are aging you know so the more you have to care for yourself, and as we are also aging we we are also unable to give everything to our parents because


we have our own life like we are working and all that you know, so the, ah correct, and the way we maintain our time the way we you know prioritize our time for us and them is also one big worry


a lot of things lah, ya, okay okay okay okay okay,


okay let's move on to jobs and career I think all these doesn't apply to us but one thing is what do you look for in a job, I mean that's what we expect right before we go into a job we will expect certain things so what is one thing that you will look for


, I care


, yup I agree, ya, ya it's very hard to work with people because at the end of the day right you will be fed up with someone of your team members or anything you know, so it's like you will have to talk to them if you have any questions you will have to ask them or you know anything you know you will have to face them so in the sense where if you're not happy with a person


that person is not happy with you it will be very hard to work because everyone will know you have something going on and, it and it's just not adult, adult life you know you'll seem very childish also, so ya I think that's very important another thing is the


job scope also for the amount that they are paying, the job scope, , I mean most importantly what I will say is okay right now right if you, see it from this point of view


many people who graduate with this cert in this diploma, their job is not what they study for, you know, so in that sense I would at least expect myself like that's the reason why I study for right I study because I want to work in this field


so I really want to work in a field that I study for lah, that's what I would expect for the job you know, at least it's related to my, study life, you know whatever that I studied for


, and it's also very sad you know to see people they did not study for that you know that's not what they did but they cannot get a job for what they study for, so at the end they had to like change their career life and everything, so they're doing something new from the scratch you know


it also very sad to see, , correct, correct correct, correct


ya and also because, you like because diploma right you will do diploma at the age of seventeen which is actually considered a very young age the age where also many people don't think practically you know, so they would take the course for the fun of it thinking it will benefit them but at the end of the day it doesn't


so after the three four years of that course like even university you know after taking that course they realise that, is doesn't really help them, and they realise lah so it's understandable


yup, so ya, , food, so last three minutes is food, okay, so what are the best and memorable


meal you had where did you have it okay I got two instance for this lah, you want to say first, okay number one would be my sec three camp, where I went to Kota-Tinggi, with my group of friends


Kota-Tinggi, where was Kota-Tinggi, , okay so this one is not really a meal but we also had meal there lah, but the fun part about the meal the highlight was that before every meal


we had to do this food cheer you know together with all our friends and all, and if the food cheer was not done well we have to keep repeating it so if you like it, uh we were very hungry because we did a lot of adventures there a lot of, uh, tiring activities so when we finally look forward to food


we had to wait quite some time to have our meal also so in that sense where, you know to eat there we have to go through the cheer and it is, is is you know is with the fun of your friends and all that, so it was very memorable where not only the meal but, the that time with your group mates


that time you spend with your secondary school friends because I believe, best friendship is made during secondary school compared to any other places, Poly secondary or what, so when you really have a good time with your secondary school friends I think that's, a very good thing lah that's the best


time you can ever have, so that was one instance, my sect three camp, another one like a meal meal was I really wanted to try this K fry urban thing where it was in Malaysia JB, I really wanted to try for many months so finally


craving what you wanted to try is one of the best feelings you know, and when the food actually tasted very, good, so that was one, best meal I had, yourself


, ya, okay


okay ya that's nice you know when you get to see food feels so nice, okay, a lot of food actually because it's like you know when you see something new like for example on Instagram you see this new food place and you want to go try and all that you know


one place that I really want to try is Saint papas, a lot of people have been talking about it and all, okay another place would be the mosh soft serve or something is it, ah, dessert place


another place is the cookie creamery, cause you know it's like a cookie then they put the ice cream on top then you know in the cookie the chocolate will flow and all so that's nice it's very nice to see, so I believe it will be nice to taste also, ya so that's a lot of food lah that we want to try you know a lot of places when you think about it


yourself, ya


, correct, okay, what's your favourite food, uh who


, nice, ya local delight as well Indian food lah


favourite favourite food it's like how to say ah I don't have a specific favourite food like I have a lot like if you give me a choice, ya correct because it's all nice you know it's like nice to eat but there's no constant food that I eat all the time favourite kind of thing


I would say prawn, anything got to do with prawn is nice, ya chicken in the sense where chicken must be, okay I like KFC chicken but I don't like, Jollibee's chicken


, ya in that sense you know, fish it must be not be any whole fish or anything like Salmon all that I'm okay, or like filet o fish or all that like you know it depends lah, but one food no matter how it is cooked I'll eat will be prawn


ya but the others I'll see how it is cooked lah in that sense, , nope,


okay will try, there's one more prawn oats prawn oatmeal prawn or something also, ah okay, they just coat it in cereal then they fry it is it, ya one thing about my prawn is I prefer it to be very clean so I don't like it when they serve me with the entire thing you know because it's a lot of


, how to say ah that we have to peel of everything and then certain time they don't take out the faeces also faeces


ya so in that sense, ya but at the of the day prawn will be my favourite, something like that but the below question is what is your comfort food or go to meal for me right, if you are trying to say go to meal or comfort food means it must be


done within few minutes and something that I can do I don't have to, search for it so in that sense where something where I do will be Maggie, Maggi Goreng another thing that I have love all this is will be Bee-Hoon Goreng lah something similar to Maggi-Goreng but it's


a bit more harder in the sense where you add more ingredient and you have to be careful of what you are adding lah, so my ya my comfort food will be those two like if I'm bored if I want to make food for myself or for others also I will do that


, ya, ya


, ya, ya ya, ya pasta is also nice, Aglio-Olio


, okay, , no we have ten more minutes, ya ten we started twelve twenty two from there one one hour twenty minutes


where did shit, okay so we have actually talk about everything


, nothing, because I see myself as a nurse already, so


I mean if you ask me few years before then obviously I will say this this people, I like the job scoop and all that but right now since I'm already in that line I have nothing to look forward to and I know what to expect you know, ya in that sense I do not have any any more expectation lah because I already know what is going to come for me


so that sense nothing much yourself,


, yup


ya it's okay, ya it's okay, yup, I think this is two hour twenty minutes so we have two more minutes, yup not thirty


we can take it outside, two more minutes, okay in this two minutes free talk


let's see where do you see yourself in five years, (mmhmm), nice, married with at least one child


, ya married with one child being successful in with what I'm doing at least in that five years progressing with life


ya, being rich, yup, goals, yup yup


yup, okay, so we have thirty more seconds to go


I think it's actually a very nice talk you get what the other person, you know more about the other person, , correct, correct


ya, correct correct so maybe they should have this in school, like you know as a module or, you know what I mean


ah correct ya, yup yup, and and the part where actually don't see each other is even more better in the sense where, ah correct it's like you need yourself so you feel like you're just talking about yourself to yourself kind of thing but you just hear a voice greeting back to you


correct that's the thing, yup


hello, okay great, okay nice, okay coming back , okay so we were talking about something else right so we leave this topic away


okay just see the picture behind lah there is like a beach and all let's talk about that, I don't know what to talk


, nice, I think that's a question that we obviously know next question please, I do not wish to disclose my private information over here


as in it's possible, should be the D, yup


, actually it does but I have no choice you know given me a giving me a choice, I would actually do it early lah because, that's the level of


ya ya, you know, so ya (ppc)


I mean of course it does lah but if you were to see all these negative side then you will never get married because, no matter which age you get married you still have to go through all this right or not, no matter how prepared you are there will still come a point of time where


there'll be a crisis where you know you know what I mean because you can never really expect like what is going to happen no matter what's your age no matter how prepared you are, so, (ppc), if I was to think about all this you know then it's never gonna happen you know what I mean


we have to face this one day so why not face it you know you're facing it early facing it then what's the difference right cause you're going to face it anyways, maybe ya, I am going to be financial prepared now


in the sense where that other party will be lah, , I can't exactly say like that because it's not like I will be a housewife all the way


I would obviously be working so obviously it's not only his part lah it involves my part but more of him because he would have more savings, (ppc)


that's scary also but I think it comes under the trust part you know,


so ya, okay four more minutes tell me about your future, why is that so


okay what do you see in a guy how do you see a guy what do you want in a guy, preparedness, (ppc), understandable


understandable,


okay, (ppc), good ya, , are you going out later


okay, , you can actually have a lot of money, when you're going to start something like invest in something what would you be investing in


ya lah money lah basically, !huh!, and, ya so what is the something that you will do


okay not not I mean that's community help that is another one but something that you invest in it's like you know like Mila beauty that kind of thing, not for yourself, is like a business that you invest in what kind of business would you do


, correct something where you invest in something but you know you will gain it back to your profits yup


(mmhmm), I guess, ya ya so what is something that you will do, really


do you understand what am I saying, okay for example I give you ten K


so what is the somewhere what is it, uh , no, because if you are going to put into something it has to be in the form of business right


tips and then you do online business when you sell something then you gain back to your profits or you do like you know Mila beauty, the skincare thing you know she she sells lipstick , skincare so she whatever her customer buy is a profit you know she so she gains back her investment


then whatever that uh a food investment you open up a food store so whatever that your customers buy from you is a, ah okay, I actually have


uh mama shop, okay you see ah, skincare can die, , make up brands can die, food also can die eventually


but mum okay food will not die lah but Mama shop right, is something where no matter how old or how much the trend changes, people will have to come down and buy something from your shop, there's nothing that they can DIY at home


you know what I mean, ah correct correct ya that's the thing yup yup but under a block where it's easily


accessible for everyone lah, mama shop, okay I'm going to end the call right now, cause it's two thirty


okay, oh my goodness, I think we have to go, you okay you go outside now


okay, so ya, , do you ever want to get a car licence


(mmhmm), good ya, , yup


understand, I think your fear will be faced if you just go for the lessons at least try out, the practical lesson cause that when you really be on the roads you know


so until you are on the road you will never know you will have this perception that you are scared you are scared you are scared until you are really driving, you know maybe you can face your fear something I mean everyone will have a fear lah come on so, if you have a money for it and you have the time for it why not because I think


ah, because I think at this point of time at this our age right now right that we are schooling you know this is the perfect age to get a license, because technically speaking once graduate like once we start working it's very hard


we won't have the time when you are working, studying at least we have now and then holidays you know but money is a issue ya, so ya, ya lah that's the thing, so but this the perfect time lah perfect age actually for license


I would, I really want to I'm I'm already thinking of it, no because if you are taught the proper way


ya, I mean you also should ride safely right, if obviously you are not riding safely then you also going to cause danger to others means then obviously lah, you drive the proper way they teach you, you do the proper things don't don't cut anything on the roads because it's


it's a serious issue you know imagine if you're the reason for someone else, death or something, so you just follow everything correctly and I think you should be fine, as long as it's not your fault then you're on the safer side


you know what I mean, at the same time it's also scary because a lot of accident very accident prone lah, but, if you ask me I would say a car is less accident prone compared to a


bike, , and so in that sense as, uh woman when we take car, we are considered safe because a car has a lot of safety things like your airbag


ya, so ya I mean if you're a woman taking a bicycle I mean a bike, it's obviously not recommended lah cause it's clearly not safe out there, and at this rate where when you see a lot of accident it's becoming more accident prone you know normal roads


so it's scary in that sense of course, ya


oh god, eh wait ah


I call them already, wait ah they are coming


okay ya k ya I can hear you, oh ya starting already , oh ya ya ya is a is a fun day thing ha


yes there's a farm shop, there's a pear and a apple, my apple is just beside the pear


okay K beside okay you know the farm shop logo right, then beside it there's a window and there's like a white box kind of thing, white board board <mandarin>白板:bai ban</mandarin> white board, ya so on the


you see a carrot so I think that's the thing lor, okay, corner the top left corner ah, you mean okay you mean okay okay no no no uh, okay what's beside your farm shop logo


what's below it what's below it, just a window and a pear right, okay mine right below the farm shop is a window as in is a four four grid lah the <mandarin>四个:si ge</mandarin> square, ya then there's a pear and a apple


okay so that's one so that's one, uh there's no carrot, your carrot is on the what on the left hand side of the farm shop ah


left side or right side of the window panel, on the left side mine is peas p e a pea shoot ya okay so that's the second one, okay, there's no carrot here


ya there's a cat here the cat is sleeping right, yes blue bag correct is hang is hang on the nail right


charity wait lah, ya, no eh wait ah wait ah


okay in front in front of the window right, there's a there's a signboard, it says pea shoot half price on mine lah, okay can


okay, no there isn't


okay can , yes


yes, yes, three ducklings ya


yes correct, that one in the stripes ah, okay


the guy is saying Anna Sue where are you, Anna comma Sue, circle it circle the guy or circle the speech, circle the speech okay


she's not saying anything but she's pointing to the left with her left hand, okay


sorry sorry, is there suppose to be something, [orh] okay, okay


yes, yes, yes, do you see the do you see like the honey thingy


okay on the natural trail right then then bottom right there's a small picture is there one, no okay then circle that then ya, yes


the pair of sheep the one of the left is eating grass right, okay mine is eating grass so so you circle, as in there is something in the mouth lah, so yours don't have right


okay then circle, yes, uh no the board is empty, okay


yes, uh no, there's a human inside, ya stick man, is green and yellow right, okay


there's eight what, there's eight what, ya, ya, there's two clouds right, the one on the left is bigger right


the painter is wearing a hat a red color hat, there he's wearing brown and white stripes, okay he's wearing a long blue pants


with a grey grey shoes, then he sit he sitting on the yellow yellow stool, then he's holding a paintbrush, okay then on the then behind the slide slightly in front of the painter on the ground


there are like pieces of paper, okay correct that's one of it, okay you just circle in front of the paint board just circle the blank space, okay


okay, yes correct, the okay beside beside the mother right, he's is he like clapping his hands or like cheering like raising his hands like macam cheering like that


okay can, okay you look at the farm shop, on the left hand side of the blue bag, is there a pink color shelf, okay then on the on the door itself


of the farm shop is there like a something hang on the door, okay, yes correct okay one two three four five six seven eight nine, your nine we got three more okay beside the mother


the one saying go go on her left hand side there are three bowling pins, okay circle that, ya just circle the empty go round, okay we need two more


okay the the bush right where the person's head is sticking out, is there flowers on the bush, okay ya circle the flowers uh ya circle just eh how should we circle the thing just circle the bush lah


okay we need one more, uh let's see, what's the color of the mountain, ya okay correct (ppb), uh then what else


okay uh look at the two kids, what is the guy in blue doing, he's holding a sandbag, blue eh, then what's the person in pink doing


okay my guy is not my blue guy is not holding a sandbag he's looking at the one in pink, are you sure he's holding a sandbag


so his hand is touching the sandbag ah, okay cause my picture right the guy is holding pants lah I don't know why, ya okay ya that's a, so we have twelve already uh so are we supposed to end now


uh both of us together or just one, okay can, don't hang up ah


hello, ya okay, silly ah oh you wait ah I I haven't organise my stuff yet, wait let me find it, I have stories I have sillies I have thought provoking I have personal I have creative I have silly okay here


so we start with silly first, okay


can you can you can you repeat the question again, which animal


so basically you replace ya you replace ya their arms and legs with human arms, !wah! okay that will be quite interesting, uh spider, eh but that will look damn gross though


oh my god spider ah, !wah! okay, but technically speaking spider is not an animal , technically speaking lah


elephant !wah! that will be damn big arms and legs, actually eh if okay if you add


if you add arms and legs to a snake right it will look like a spider don't you think, it will it will move like a spider just that it cannot jump lah you know


so it has to be terrifying, ah scared of it ah okay let me think human, uh dog no cat no


uh what is a scary animal, hamster [orh] (ppb) Joel's hamster ah !wow! okay, then the small body the small body with the super big arms that kind


ya ya okay, !wah! not bad !wah!, dig it, uh okay I need to think of what are what are there what animals are there first, eh throw in some suggestion some suggestion eh


ya adopt, ya but your dog not very scary though your dog are quite small sizes that kind, no but but after all it's still a dog you know dogs are like usually quite friendly that kind


there is no no no, chowder <mandarin>不要了:bu yao le</mandarin> ah no no no I don't think, is there some exotic uh


crocodile, ya eh we quite fast leh ya, !wow! okay, !wow! not bad ya, but actually shouldn't we can't attach human arms to monkeys right I mean like they are like so human already so


I mean then if you think about god like king kong that kind those big sized apes lah, ya, ya lor there's a difference actually ya


ya correct correct ya, [orh] I know already I know already fish, ya you add arms and legs to fish, uh I mean I it doesn't really matter lah so


I mean crocodile also not animal crocodile is reptile what (ppb), but I mean generally still can lah ya, if the two people next to you were animals what animals would they be


two people next to you, at any point of time ah, I mean like just imagine lor


uh Andrew , can what as in you just imagine any two lah so Andrew can be one of them, no Andrew Andrew eh, ah sorry sorry Aloysius


oh my god ya Aloysius uh you can think of Aloysius and Andre lor, oh ya that's quite true, chimpanzee ah chimpanzee


giraffe , ya he's like so tall, !wow! okay can, okay can , (ppb) confirm some joke one right you


that's what it is ah , Heidi ah, well I don't think you know my my og people a lot though


no no no I'm different from Heidi, mine is Joycelyn Mark Diane, Amos Mark ah, !wah! !wah! this is quite hard okay Heidi one is quite hard what animal would be Heidi be ah


what's the animal that is very no why is she a cat, no oh my god no no no what what gives her a feel of a cat, the face bitch I tell her later


but but no eh I don't I don't I don't want to associate her with a cat though, what I say I'm trying to think of an animal that is like super hard to maintain and like !wah! super fuzzy that kind


animal ah uh what's hard to maintain , sorry, what is that, ah okay that kind ah, that's hard to maintain meh


no eh but she's eh is she eh actually quite, ya actually quite, a bit apt ah, quite ah


let me think ah, cats quite easy


hamster no, dog


rabbit quite hard meh, what, !huh! but rabbits are so cute Heidi is not cute


okay okay wait ah I think of something first, !aiya! put chicken lah, since she only eat chicken, okay lah chicken chicken


ya chicken, okay what else who's the that one Mark ah, !wah! Mark is like, ya I can only think of like sloth, because like Mark always Mark Mark Mark always like because during lg he last time he used to like just chill in one corner that kind


ya ya correct correct ya he was like super when he first join right he was always like chill in one corner that kind so like ya, ya so uh like very laid back right a bit laid back lah ya, okay ya so I'll go with sloth lor, ya, okay


for which category, oh should we just finish this first, okay can, object !wow!


any object ah, any object ah, phone, I think because like everybody phone is quite essential to everybody now so is like some people treat their phone like more precious than like most of their other belongings


ya and I I'll I'll be a I phone lah I mean like even though the is expensive and stuff but then people then the demand for it is still there you know, ya ya ya and you're you're you're your market value will just keep going higher and higher I feel ya


ya uh so I will choose the I phone ya


a watch !wow! okay why


really how does it, okay, okay


ya okay, but it depends on how you want to present yourself what I mean if like is a casual day but you still


wear a super expensive watch then I don't know ya, okay okay


may but what about people who don't wear watch, that's the very big assumption what


okay, but usually is because like watch goes well with formal wear what, okay


ya !wow! sure (ppb), so what about guys who wear the ns watch when the do when they serve their national service


ya ya but the thing is right uh you cause you say a watch tells a lot about a person right, but when they're do when they're serving their national service they're confined to that one watch what, so so it doesn't really speak much about them what


ya what about this, okay, !wah! sure sure I'm not convinced but okay


but okay, imagine why would why would you want to transfer into an object ah, well okay can


true okay, okay the question is what music could you play to drastically change the vibe of any situation


okay what music could you play, to drastically change the vibe of any situation


I don't know like maybe uh a tense, okay awkward situation let's say uh you are awkward between friends lor like <mandarin>没有话讲:mei you hua jiang</mandarin> like you have nothing much to say to one another that kind of thing, ya


I see I see okay, okay


okay, okay


okay can, I feel that I would choose like uh popular music uh maybe like music from, those like OST from those popular movie then they always have those theme songs you know, ya I think usually people generally people are


quite caught up with yet uh like what's going on ah so if let's say if you play things like oh uh those those those type eh what, you are the apple of my eye, our times this kind of this kind of movie right then like the show usually people will know the songs


and I think like then you can start a conversation with them, ya eh do you watch this movie how how do you like it this kind of thing you know so I think I think that usually if you play like, uh pop music then people uh generally is able to lead to like conversations lor


okay


okay okay that's quite true, ya ya ya but I I would say that usually party music usually it will help change the atmosphere lah I feel


I think depends cause like in generally those like uh, let's say party music is quite is quite high ah those kind so usually it puts people in the more , like it lift it lifts up the mood the spirit lor I feel, ya correct correct


mean like if if not worse come to worse just play like, some emo songs I don't know, okay these just finish okay, eh how many silly you have sorry how many silly you have ah three each right


ya I got three each also okay can, can can you repeat the question, okay


!wah! Siao that's quite high


okay, okay, like


that's not for what, (ppb) that's an assumption that she will laugh what (ppb), okay


okay okay, okay, okay okay


how is it, !wah! okay okay, !wah! that's very interesting !wah!, everything ah, I think probably probably I'll wear mismatched


ya ya so it's like uh actually I was thinking like uh, like uh maybe we'll wear some like, cartoon characters dress as some cartoon characters but then but then you mix you mix the cartoon characters together


ya so maybe let's say you wear you wear top from this cartoon then you wear the bottom from the other cartoon, that kind, ya ya ya so I buy uh let me think ah but not the not the to the extreme kind lah I mean like you


people when people look at you but they can see that you ya mismatched part they can, they know that its not it's it's a funny kind of mismatched you know what I mean, ya ya ya ya then I think I was maybe like I wear like uh a moustache, like I I paste a moustache or something or maybe I wear I wear a like a afro afro wig or something ya that kind then ya I think it'll be quite funny ah


ya that's quite true ya afro will save everything, you know eh Bob the builder carries a hammer right


correct, does Bob the builder carry the carry a hammer, ya correct right so ya I was thinking maybe you can wear something similar to, hold on ah


okay, ya so I was thinking right uh for Bob the builder maybe can you can like bring take his hammer with you also [loh], take take a hammer accessory, ya ya ya correct cause I was saying like ya cartoon characters


don't match, okay wait wait thats quite true lah okay okay but the the mustache and the wig is okay lah quite good I feel, ya the afro afro is good


ya that's right that's right why not we try that, is it is it quite ex, okay can, all right uh


I will think about it one day , (ppb) okay can, okay the next one right , a genie gives you the address of your true love, but they are on the other side of the world what do you do


give you address of your true love but you are on the other side of the world, like America that kind ah, LDR long distance relationship (ppb)


subject, that's quite true because their culture they grew up ya the culture they grew up on quite open


but actually I feel that usually that leads to character flaws what no, ya you get what I mean so like maybe they will be open to ideas like oh uh multiple partners that kind of thing ya I feel ya ya


I mean have lah a lot lah but okay lesser lah lesser, okay okay fine you can go for whoever you want, but okay okay ya ya so so you're on the other side of the world what will you do


what would you do, like forever happy happy ever after lor, go there bring !woah! but you got money to fly all the way to America to get


!wah! okay, I mean like cause eh wait


no no no but the thing is like okay this one you imagine if it's me ah the scenario, is that the genie give you the address of your true love so is like maybe someone you have never met before, ya so like maybe like one day maybe a genie appear in your dreams say oh this is the girl that is your true love


and she lives in like oh Antarctica that kind of thing, so what do you do so you have never met the person you have never talk to her before, ya


okay, okay, yes


!woah! okay, okay okay, I mean first of all obviously I will try


to find her online first lah ya I mean now we got Facebook we got Instagram it's very easy to stalk people honestly so just like , uh actually wait ah let me think ya okay assuming I know her name and everything so I can try to find her online


but let's say if I can't do it right then I would I will save up money to go to travel there one day lah I wouldn't I wouldn't go there like, immediately but I think maybe let's say like, America like those super far country I don't have the budget I don't have the finance so I will save up first then maybe like I wait like one two years then after that I go there to find her lah


ya so cause like assuming that true love means like oh like like you are compatible with one another then oh you will live like happily ever after that kind lah, that that's why I was like the ideals ah basically ya so I I I wouldn't give it up because like it's like sort of like the perfect the most ideal thing you can find already


ya you get what I mean right, ya ya so so I would I would save up then I would go there one day to find lor, ya, but just pray that she doesn't change her address lor because that's the only thing I have what, ya ya correct correct ya


ya ya ya correct correct better see whether she pretty or not right (ppb)


(ppb) ya ya ya okay come we can move on, !wah! we are taking up, I think what how long did we take ah quite long right, !wah! that's quite good no lah I think less than that mine is


one half an hour [orh] okay lah can can can can, okay can what what category you want to do next, creatives okay let's see what do we have here


something you take for granted then you give it a twist, okay I know already I know already, my mirror, ya I think some sometimes like we don't give mirrors a okay not say that they deserve a second thought but usually we just


take it for granted oh the mirror is there then we check our appearance then oh if it's okay oh then we go off this kind of thing I think like so it's very ordinary lah I feel, ya so I think let's say you could give it a twist, maybe uh like I will say to him uh maybe they can they can like give feedback to you


like you know like I give you like like fashion style fashion suggestion that kind of thing, you get what I mean right so that means let's say you if you stand in front of the mirror then after that you like you like maybe you try to style your hair or something then maybe the the mirror can say that oh maybe you should try styling, like a different way it will it will suit you better that kind of thing lor


ya I thought that was quite ya not bad, ya, a pen okay


okay


okay so it becomes it becomes a technological gadget lah, yup, ah okay, okay okay okay


okay but this kind of era got there's still people who carry pens around pens around, sorry, ah okay I get what you mean okay okay, okay correct


yes correct alright, okay okay !wah! not bad not bad okay okay my side uh, describe an animal or a colour to a blind person (ppb)


to a blind person, so assuming that a person has never seen like the colour red before, how do you describe it, oh lol !wah! thats quite hard, colour


black colour, what you're seeing now is the is the colour black


oh okay okay, how would you describe, I think like, things like I think like, colour red right you can use, you can use the things like the sun or the fire


then after that ya so so after that you ask them to imagine I guess, or even like ya I don't know actually very hard sia, how do they even differentiate colour


!wah! so, ya you're correct, ya, okay, ya


ya, but the thing is they have they have never seen all these things before so it's very to hard for them to imagine, you get what I mean


uh get a idea, uh okay okay, okay I think I think color is harder to describe as compared to animals, ya cause animals they have like a shape they have a feature that you are able to ya you're able to explain ya correct correct


ya furry then the tail those kind of things, ya correct correct it's easier ah generally, okay can so we're done with this


what the heck


how do you even get that sentence, okay just anyhow bomb so it's like not like those like, those, English idiom that kind


okay okay, ya the there is a super long sums ya, !wah! a trace ah !wah!


(ppb) if I need to repeat the phrase can you remember, (ppb) no right you cannot remember right


ah okay okay, okay okay, okay, since you do that I am going to use bible verse as well uh (ppb) following Matthew chapter twenty eight verse eighteen to twenty


the great commission, the all authority of heaven and earth has been given to me therefore, wait wait disciples of all nation then whereby they say blah blah blah blah


then might as well you just use the the love is patient love is kind it doesn't (ppb) ya, if you get what I mean right that's like even longer (ppb) I think that !huh!


what's the longest thing right, ah okay okay I know I know already right okay ya, ya so okay so you know right uh usually games right, there's things like okay basically right to play LG game right you will sit in a circle


then after that right one person will start with a short bible verse so it will be like Jesus there, okay that's the bible verse lah okay then after that the next person have to continue the bible verse that is longer than the previous one ya correct lor, ya


ya ya ya, okay lah but it's not it's not very friendly, ya it's quite fun it's quite fun ya okay maybe I like, okay okay okay can can


okay next uh which one should I choose okay come I choose this okay, you get the resources to spend on the next decade making an impact on your local community how do you help


so basically you got resources to help your local community for the next ten years lah so how do what would you do it, ten years ah


sorry, you will get water, for your local community, oh serious water why water


but that's like so long later, oh (ppb) thank thank you very much , okay


okay, okay, okay, okay, let me think ah, okay originally I was thinking of, like maybe through education lah


so maybe you send your people for like digital classes cause like we are going into the digital era already, so but then after that I was thinking uh, what would make a even greater impact ah uh build a church lor


I feel that I feel that if you use the money to fund, to fund a church ah I think it will it will be a lot more beneficial, no no as in cause the question is this is you confirm have the money already for the next ten years


ya ya so you can do whatever you want to help to make an impact ah, ya correct correct, ya so I think that like church will have bigger impact ah cause like not just like skills, its about moral moral living also lah I feel


go and train lah you got ten years to train anyways, ya I mean can you can even send to bible college go and like study your bible this kind of thing, ya a lot of things lah a lot of money also so yup


ya that is how I will do it lor, yup, can alright, should we speed up


don't want lah eh I mean no lah no need no need lah just finish this one lor, okay okay my question uh if you could have any unusual superpower what would it be unusual ah keyword is unusual


are you yawning you are yawning , sorry read mind, that is not very unusual


super speed ah, why super speed though, okay, okay ah ah yes right


ya, ya ya, okay, okay


okay, okay, okay, okay, for me, I think I would want to be able to


conjure up any food, I mean like I mean like food and drinks quite essential what for for survival so let's say if I have, if I am trapped at an island right then if I have the super power to like just magically


bring food out right then quite cool what then you don't have to worry about anything, ya ya ya, ya correct and you can save money also lah technically so like you don't have to spend to spend money (ppb) ya correct ya so that's a superpower


ya okay, anything lah so ya you can that that's my superpower lor you so it doesn't have to be like from something, so it's like from out of, out of thing thin air you can just come out ya


ya ya correct correct, okay wait wait wait take an attribute of someone from your group


!siala! that's quite hard, attribute ah okay, okay, should I should I, you want interesting or boring person


Kai-Juan for me, uh why you always think of girl sia uh, okay


!huh! ya I give you Li-Xuan yes correct, Kai-Juan ah what kind of attribute supervillain ah oh okay uh, uh okay I will use #Kai-Juan#'s uh


uh personality cause she's someone who is very uh she's rather sociable that kind okay so I will use it as, like so basically right I will I will make her into a villain that like like be friends with everybody so everybody think will will think that's she's the innocent kind you know


ya so she's like she will be like super innocent and she will be, okay ya okay so this person ya so this person will be, like super friendly with everybody so so but nobody will think that she is uh she is a villain ah ya so is like


plot twist like in a sense, yes correct ya, okay, okay, scream her scream okay


okay, okay, ah okay


okay okay so is like some supersonic power lah, okay okay that's quite interesting, okay okay can can I would I would thought you would choose like her laughter or something but okay I guess her scream is more powerful


(ppb) okay can, okay can can (ppb) !wah! if if like if I could use a scream right I would I would use it as like a contagious thing, so once she laugh right then everybody around her will start laughing also, but actually like how okay lah okay okay okay next one


what what you want do, anything ah just, wait we don't have to do everything right, thought provoking okay


in my life ah, !wow! that's quite hard, okay okay you can say, okay


okay, okay, okay, ah okay can, for me I want the director to focus on my secondary school life


cause I think I think like, uh for me I I'm a fan of a Taiwanese drama, Taiwanese high school drama you know those like oh uh you are the apple of my eye this kind of thing right so I think like I feel like my secondary school is quite , is the like most fun lah is the most enjoyable period of my life lor so like is like you know secondary school you don't have that much stress


then you always think you are in the like growing up stage so like you always want to be a rebel, then you think you are super big you are super up there but basically you are not lah so you do a lot of shit in school that kind of thing that get you into trouble and also I think I think that's the most like sort of like most fun part of my of my life


ya so a lot of carefree then you can like just, just like do everything as if you own the world that kind of thing lor, then like after I think like always high school movies got all those like oh you got the romance you know, the romance make makes it very interesting then everybody like ten guys like ten guys like one one one one one girl


ya so I think that that actually that happened in like my secondary school lor so I think like I think it will quite it's quite, that's happening in my life lah so I think quite quite interesting lor, ya ya lor ya after that I'll I'll choose my secondary school life, ya okay !wah!


eh this thought provoking right, okay uh what is one thing that you wish was free, was free yes, free eh money where got free one


free money, okay okay , okay, (ppb) okay that that is quite true that is quite true okay


okay, okay can okay okay can money is free okay, let me think ah


I would choose like healthcare lah, ya ya I think, ya lah that's why I thinking in terms of Singapore lah (ppb) ya cause I feel that it's like uh all your


basic needs of life lah like electricity ah uh healthcare this kind of thing I feel that it should be, it's a government responsibility lah so I think, I hope that it'll if it was free ah so I think okay so I think that it should be free, ya correct, correct lor ya I would choose healthcare


ya but I mean if like if want to say about ya your, lifestyle I would choose like oh I mean I would hope that, clothes and food are free lah this kind of thing cause like that's the, thing that you spend your money on lah usually it's either food or your clothings or entertainment this kind of thing


true lah true lah I mean like cause you say that already right so, ya right, ya okay can lor ya okay


three ah !wah! that's quite a lot, why would you want to learn there , uh I know lah but okay okay


ah okay can, okay is that is that part of the brains thing, okay can good memorisation


sorry, ah okay okay the skill


oh !wow! sure okay can okay can, calligraphy brain and okay can, let me think okay for me I think the first one is singing


ya so for me right I I really I really cannot sing lah sorry but but I think I think that uh, let's say if you can sing right it's can it's a skill that we can that can be used to woo a girl, like capture capture the heart the hearts lah that kind of thing ya okay then the second thing is uh


I want to be able to play drums, ya even though I'm learning right right now but then I still not not say very good lah so I I want to be able to like oh instantly like become a super pro, like very uh talented drummer ah


okay okay so I got singing I got drums, skill ah uh, the last one, I would probably choose, uh handicraft


those like art related stuff, ya cause I I also I also cannot do art uh so I mean if I can do this like, it's like it's like you are up you are upping your own market value you know, ya ya ya so like oh I can sing I can play instrument I can do art ya you know ya so ya okay


okay can (ppb) okay uh let me see ah let me choose the thing ah wait ah give me a second, !wah! okay this is quite interesting okay uh, okay every morning you can take twenty minute sneak to sneak peek at your at your upcoming day


so right basically right let's say today is Monday you wake up so you can choose to look at twenty minutes of your today, okay so what time would you look at, ya where what time would you look at


okay every single every single morning you can do this, why though, it's shows you what you, no lah but it only shows shows you that time period


[orh] so that's for you lah okay, okay can


okay can !wah! this is quite hard leh actually, every morning getting a twenty minutes sneak peek at the upcoming day what time do you look at


ya I know what you mean ya, ya I don't know what you mean but, but I think I I think it's like assuming you cannot change so you can only look at look at that that twenty minutes


but what yes you cannot change anything ya, it's like it's like they just play a video for you to see so you cannot change anything, I don't know lah that that's assumption lah


!wah! this is quite hard every morning can take a sneak twenty minutes peek sneak peek at the upcoming day when would it be


okay lah I don't really know, I don't really know when lah but probably I would look at, I look at the time where I when I travel, ya so like I travel right then if I know that there's gonna be a jam


or if I know that there's a, oh ya actually that, you you you result in trying to change what you do right, ya ya ya okay ya okay I get what you mean ya ya ya so I, ya okay ya basically ya I will look at like time where I travel lor to see if got any jam


or whether there's any seats on the MRT or the bus, ya then I'll try to then I'll try to change ya okay okay can can ya, okay can ya okay I get what you mean, yes correct correct


good job , okay can, ya ya sure sure I'm sure that works, okay come wait


how old you want to look for it, went through in army in nineteen, ah okay


okay okay, okay okay, okay, okay , in in your own opinion okay


like in, okay ya I get what you mean, I would probably choose, twenty also lah probably, ya cause twenty was the time when I was in NS lah I think I was quite fit back then


ya don't have the don't have the tummy ya so ya, ya


okay, okay, weird in what sense


cause got stunt ah, bimbo ah , okay , K very typical girl ah ya


what's a what's what's a equivalent, like to now lah to now to people around us


eh SIM here, okay


okay, okay, okay can


then, (ppb) that is so okay


she play hard to get lah it's a very common tactic


okay can, okay can okay uh, ya ya would you want to change your destined career


or your destined demise demise, demise ya your death your death


ya why, yes correct, okay


okay, okay, okay, okay


okay, okay, I would choose demise lah, ya, cause like I don't want to die like very painfully that kind, cause I think like uh growing up then I think then you see people around you they die of like illnesses right then its like its quite its quite


its quite uh emotionally challenging as well as like oh very painful to watch that kind lor, ya, ya ya so that's why I change my demise lor so I choose I choose not to not to let's say if I'm going to die like medically like like I'm sick ya, so I can choose not to die this way lah I can choose to die or maybe I die more peacefully oh I die in my sleep that kind of thing


you get what I mean ya so that's that's like uh, the the the effects are the implications of the people around you as well lor, ya that's what I would choose, ya, okay, are we are we do we still need to continue


until she comes in right, uh okay that's gonna take quite a while okay uh what what should we do, okay


oh this is a very difficult question !huh!, why, you want to own a hotel, !huh! serious, I thought you want to be a businessman, okay


[orh] okay okay, okay, okay, !wah! okay, hotel but after that a lot of things to manage eh


okay can, okay, uh job with no pay ah, or don't need to worry about money


uh I guess being a food blogger, food critic food critic ah I would say, ya ya, ya lor I think ah can eat ah


ya I I I mean I like to I like I like to try out places but usually is the money lah the financial means that deters people away from me, from from the doing it lor ya


ya then who, they is it the thing they sent that time, our guys who our ministry


[orh] Adriel ah, uh I I know I know also what, no but then they do they do like different stuff what


no no no it cannot be TSL, cannot be okay or not, I I I know I know because I I remember I see something similar ya but is okay lah


uh Macy, okay let's not mention names (ppb) okay can your brother's girlfriend, okay, okay, okay ah can


!wah! this is like I don't know, what dream of yours dies a little with each passing day, what dream of yours ya


ya, ah okay, why


okay, okay


okay okay, okay can, uh for me I think it's like the dream of like playing for playing drums for main service lah I think I started out actually I started out when ah


I started out back in twenty fifteen actually, ya so it's like , so it now it's like twenty eighteen like going towards the end of twenty eighteen already so it's like oh i'm still I'm like not progressing lah ya lor, ya lor so I think I like I feel


then I I can feel that sometimes the the interest the passion to, to ya you know like sometimes like oh you are super motivated to do something then you are oh you you that something that drives you, but then I think now like the drive is like oh it's not really there already so it's like I'm just oh very uh very passive ya so I think that that is like something that


that really like I can feel it like dying like day by day that kind of thing [loh], ya, uh ya lor so I scared I think like maybe one day I will be just be like oh content with like or playing for like dialect service that kind of thing, I mean it's not it's not a bad thing so but ya


can train lah can train but the ya, ya, ya lah correct correct


ya lah ya lah that's why, okay, okay ya ya ya can can, okay


other five sentence ah, past five, okay okay retry retry


five years, okay okay will laugh from here (ppb), okay, one sentence only, okay one sentence only


cause it's our lives than five what, okay can, okay my pass five years lah, (ppb) wandering in the wilderness


school lah what else, ya still wandering ah ya still wandering ah !wah!, I want I want to quit already but I cannot quit


sorry, I still got one year plus lah ya lor, plus took me long, but you have been here like less than a year


no lah it cannot be I am the most old one trust me , no lah but the duration of stay mah is longer mine confirm longer one trust me, I more than four years eh bro , (ppb) I always I always skip sense


sorry then retake ah correct ah, !huh! I don't feel like studying then I skip lah, !huh! ya lah me ah my life lor , (ppb) I skip you know I Pon I skip my entire A-levels


ya you didn't you didn't right, ya so I thinking my technically speaking my highest highest educational cert is only O-levels, uh the course that time at that point of time the course allow O-level


they took in O-levels ya so a lot a lot of people they go they finish like secondary school sec four right then they get directly come you be come to my school lor, ya so it is like a fast is like is like of a fast track, in a way


yup, from me lah I am not that fast lah but you look at people like uh denise denise is like super young and she is like ya ya lor, ya but okay lah she started out quite late I think


eh no no no no correct correct ya ya okay ya sorry, okay in this ministry, since mid twenty fifteen lor so like three years already three years slightly more than three years slightly more only


because I came around end april may period, ya lor so like three slightly more than three years lor, ya okay lah not that bad, ya, ya like I'm the enjoy now then suffer later


ya that's right, okay, eh wait wait wait eh, eh wait just now who ask the question


what's your question ah, [orh] ya ya correct correct I said wilderness ya correct wandering in the wilderness okay so ya ya ya hold on this is quite hard, uh oh difficult question okay if you could relive a moment of your life which would it be


ya a moment ah not not a period a moment, okay lah not say a moment ah but a short a short period lah may maybe like during within one year that kind of thing


okay I know already I know already , okay uh I would choose to relive like either okay lah primary six I would say primary six , ya cause like basically right uh all my life I don't know why ah but


usually the girl I like right, then got confirm got competitor competitors one, okay so usually right there'll be like oh two three guys like one one girl lah okay, so my primary primary six right I like I like this girl lah then after that uh then uh I I didn't get together with her then so


but actually she also never get together with any of the guys ya correct ya but the thing is right after primary six I did not uh keep in contact with her, okay, ya then after that there was this then during secondary school there was this uh


I took this bus ride home okay then after that right I saw this girl I saw this girl that looks like my primary school friend the girl that I like, okay so this is the moment that I want to I want to relive lah so okay so basically right on the bus right she looked like the girl I like, but then right I I I don't know why but I couldn't


I never bring myself to go and look take a second look, okay so it's like okay you know what you know okay double double decker bus I went to the top I went all the way to the back, so then just like one or two rows in front right then the girl was sitting there, okay then after that during the whole bus ride right I don't know why right but the girl just keep turning around to look at me


then she look she look like super long and super hard then I like super determined to not look at her I don't know why , (ppb) ya so I I feel that let's say if I I had turned to look at her right then I would have, been able to keep in contact with her, you know what I mean


ya so it's like , then I think that that's a moment lost lor then like I think, like earlier this year right somehow I managed to add her on Instagram, then !wah! she freaking Chio now sia !wah! then I then I regret but okay ah ya that's the moment lah


I never no lah nothing lah I just I just add her Instagram but I never talk to her ya, ya lor no ya that's the moment , (ppb) like on the bus I should have like just go and turn and look at her and talk to her also


before you stop doing sports, ah okay okay, can okay, okay can ah okay


ah okay can so you go down the stories lah, !wah! I hate stories man it's like !wah! so freaking hard, my parents (ppb) they don't do funny things


oh ya that's why I think stories are the hardest man oh, what is the most frustrated you eh, what is the most frustrated you have ever been with a person oh so basically it's like when were you the most frustrated with a person lah


ya, ya I also don't have one leh, okay, okay


because from the fall from the fall oh !ouch!, !wah! okay , okay


okay, okay, okay


(ppb) so basically your parents are supposed to be good at something then they fail lah, okay, okay okay can , !wah! not bad not bad !wah! my parents really don't have anything sia !wah!


!huh! there's nothing much already uh can we come out with your own can you come up with our own question ah, uh all I all I all don't have answer though


try something new [orh] okay, drums lor


dairy farm, which is, ah okay okay


how high how high was it, as in how how high


damn high ah okay, okay that's quite high okay, okay


ya ya, ah okay okay , ya ya I remember I took uh my first flying fox was doing OBS eh was it OBS camp


eh no it's not OBS it's like some random adventure camp in Singapore ah but then I think the height was like only like four four storey high, ya but I I remember it was quite Shiok for me, ya so it's like I I don't I don't mind going on a ah flying fox again


uh correct ya it's not bad, ya but it's quite it's quite expensive now though, I think ya usually, uh eh what about what about roller coasters


okay, okay


ah okay, okay


ah okay ya ya, okay, ah okay okay okay, ya ya ya eh do you do you open your eyes during roller coaster


oh you do ah okay can, okay okay can, okay okay can


ya okay ya I remember like I think year one ah year one then I went USS, with my friends right then I got this guy friend then he he scared of roller coasters one but we make him go take one of the red the red and blue rides lah, ya then we just we just make him stay then when we about to ride right then he just keep screaming then like I was


because I was sitting behind him then I just scream for fun also I just scream along along with him then he just like uh then I think like, one of the rides also then he #pang seh# us, ya he #pang seh# us for the ride lah then so he just wait downstairs while we go for the ride right then during the ride right then we just keep screaming his name like his name then after that some of like his friends right they just like uh


is just like uh scold vulgarities cause like he #pang seh# them what he #pang seh# us, ya then after that we just scold him through out the ride (ppb) that kind ya just shout you know when you ride the thing very fast and you just shout out into the air that kind of thing, ya lor so like quite fun


but generally I I I don't I don't I not a very big fan of roller coaster rides ya, uh but I I don't I I don't mind taking once or twice lah but not the biggest fan ya


oh ya correct correct eh but those like overseas theme parks quite Shiok like quite ya like, ya Korea Taiwan this kind of things Hong-Kong also, but okay I'll never take the overseas one because it is really damn scary


ya those like ninety degree drop !wah! crazy one, okay, sorry, tell a story about a time when you make someone else's day


you make someone's day lah, their day their day, I also don't have , ya I also don't have ya why is it so hard


caught doing something embarrassing, caught doing something embarrassing, I feel like right you know like those embarrassing and those happy moment that kind of thing right like I feel like is not


is not happy or is not like, is not emotional it does but not too impactful also so I don't really remember all this kind of things, ya, can we go out but she just coming in to get in she just walk past me but I don't think she's coming in


okay can okay


!wah! that's a very long list, ya, okay please please keep please keep track of the time , keep track of the time, okay, but she will she will come in later


ya she will come in, ya correct correct, ya okay can, okay what do you want to start with


shopping entertainment hobbies student art culture, ya start with, uh ya start with student lah easier


okay, oh you free and easy ah, okay


in terms of studying ah, I would feel that it's not being able to understand the, the content that is taught, okay cause for me right I'm that kind of person that


I go class, I can understand, generally I I can do do well for my paper, for my exams lah so let's say if I go class I listen but I cannot, I cannot understand what kind of things they are teaching


and I think that's the hardest part lor ya, ya correct, ya lor so it's like being able to understand the content that is taught


okay, okay, [orh] okay I see, okay okay okay, but generally teachers don't give a lot of tips what


really, in uni, okay ah I never been okay


okay, okay, ah okay okay correct


I never, ya but I I have never have you, cause of your poly, ITE is there any intern opportunities, !wah! that is quite good actually ya cause I JC JC kid ah so no intern


no lah Siao when, no lah I might be all the elite schools [loh]


ah okay oh actually that's quite good ya that's quite good, sorry


ah okay, okay


okay, ah okay


okay


okay, okay


!wah! that's quite a lot, every month, okay


okay, ah okay, okay


is that, is that where your dream of like owning your own hotel came from okay, okay


ah okay, okay okay


ah okay okay, okay, uh are you still a student or what, uh technically don't have to follow all these right is just free talk


what I like to join ah, uh I guess I want to join soccer but no okay lah uh cause like the , okay the first sports I was intro to was probably soccer


then , so when I cause I played soccer with my CCA seniors last time right in primary school then after that they always make me the goalkeeper, ya so I'm quite I'm quite used to playing as a goalkeeper ya so but the thing is like I never go through like


proper training that kind is like you know you just like play for leisure like during recess time that kind of thing ya ya so it's like , ya so I never go through any proper training before so that's that's why I never I never join soccer CCA lah ya then, primary school I join uh chinese orchestra CO ya then during secondary school I decided to continue with CO also