I don't know so at the end at the day, same same lor all these kind of food lor eh wait don't forget we got uh cookies cakes nowadays for anyone also, like cakes especially, that one a bit boring question


next silly question oh no a zombie outbreak , what's your plan of action


Singapore hide where I mean okay lah Singapore you still can hide lah our house all H are very solid block kind I think, ya but eventually your food will run out


ya water maybe the zombie may not know how to die but okay but the problem will be what's your plan of action you tell me ah, what you will take zombie outbreak, food water hike


outbreak, temple two, to me is the question outbreak if it's, uh uh virus infection I think, I might as well just die lor


no no I I won't tell myself, actually in every of the zombie show I look at it is that you get bite then you turn into a zombie but if you kill yourself will you still turn into a zombie


I don't know (ppb), so clear I exchange, ha will save, the world you can't even save yourself (ppb) I nope


no lah don't need to run lah I think it's it's much safer you stay in your own HDB house, which is true mah, if we make a comparison I think ya if there's an outbreak what is your choice of action


you know stock up on the food stock up on water you know and, and and try to outstay or outlive the outbreak lor, we we all the need to step out of the house lor, that's all you can do mah okay next one


next one, next one is under, thought, provoking, would you want to change your destiny this, this what !wah! cannot even pronounce this word


destined ah okay your destined career or your destined demise, would you want to change your destined career, or your destined demise basically means would you want to change anything about your career or maybe even your death


ah or your death so you can pick one lor do you want to talk about your death or you want to talk about your career, ya because would you want to change your destined career that means you know that you are supposed to actually for instance you're gonna be an accountant


you're going to you are a accountant or you are a doctor what, you're gonna change something, no change to what


to me if you know about your death for me lah death I only hope to have a peaceful death sleep I never wake up that's it


no pain no hospital no nothing happy already, but if you talk about career wise and everything ya lah maybe, but again lah it is environment area situation


true true I agree on that so next question thought and provoking again what is one thing that you wish was free, one thing only


same as me, as long as free good already what, I mean I agree lah coming to mind one thing that you want to be free it has to be food


mean you basically, okay already mah because you do not have to worry about food, okay I think I will go with you but there's nothing much because it said one thing you wish to be was free, handphone with data ah no need lah (ppb) cannot fit


I know ah free Wi-Fi !aiya! no need lah, I mean free food lor that's the best


eat and drink that is the two basic thing you need, uh you can don't have a whatever roof over your head also can, no nowadays cannot you Kena go to jail thought provoking every morning you can take a twenty minute sneak peek


on the upcoming day what time do you look at, so basically means the question is that every day in the morning when you wake up you can look into your day's future for twenty minutes


what what time of the day do you want to look at, and why


that's all, okay for me depending on the day I will look at ten, P M, ten PM to ten twenty, got twenty minutes what ten twenty PM


everyday uh not on Saturday but almost everyday I can do that you know why, from now on every ten O-clock I check four D and ToTo results , no no no money already


ya see you can see before the day the result for the day, better than going back to the future what, you can buy


got to meh, but you must have a routine lor, even if like soccer result what's going to be winning and all that's why I say ten O-clock at night, because why I say ten O-clock at night is because the results only announce maybe at only like eight or nine O-clock what, so at least you know the result already what


I mean being, being right what, okay under stories what is the most frustrated, you have ever been with a person !wow! that would be me already lor (ppb)


what is the most frustrated you have ever been with a per person, uh be honest be honest


I also know be honest be honest, you never get frustrated with people, you never get frustrated with your family members your loved ones your ex you ex colleges and everything


you don't hold grudges, that moment you don't hold grudges after that you hold lah


uh I still remember the war with the young boys speak how long, ex all company, not frustrating meh, not frustrating meh


eh you cannot be that moment what very long eh, ya at that moment been the most frustrated with somebody is that person mah


K for me most person I been very frustrated I'll tell you is your family, that's the most frustrating I always thought the most stupidest the most anything anybody can do a simple thing, and not


become, very overkill, you call me drama queen I think they are the drama kings ah, no no no we say this before, the past will come back because every time you think let the past be the past ah it come back again past is past come back again


this is a truth okay next question under stories, what is the most impressive thing that you have ever done !wah!, impressive thing that you have ever done yes


no no no I agree, for me I got nothing, ya but, just like I told you lor I'm not saying that you are ya ya Papaya or whatever but to me is that what we impressive with it at the end of the day is


is what you I aim for and I go for that's it only but I think, if you say you know impress or whatever it is ya lah you can consider that but impressive, but I also don't know like why you so impressive


that's all only mah most of the things like I said lah those are for me it's more of dedication mah you want to do something you just finish it prop at till the end lor that's all only lor, uh should be anot it's another story mah but I think lah okay lah quite happy with it lah at the end of the day at least I went into the roller coaster which I don't dare


which I will never take again, no I would not I would not take, what you mean by somebody else


nah all the group of people, they are more scary cat then I think, they only talk a lot only all scary cat one, okay under stories, what interesting story have uh what interesting story happen because you were being lazy


yes what interesting story happen because you were being lazy something that you were so lazy and something happen that was so interesting, I don't know


apparently something happen nah, maybe because you are lazy you never do something you save a person life who knows that is a question asking


so the such thing that happens to you is because you are naturally lazy or you are not naturally lazy which is which, yes you don't do things, so I was right lah just basically you don't do anything lor


so if you don't do anything so that means you are not lazy mah because I am not doing anything how can you call me lazy , actually no it is the definition of word only mah, alright what is the question again


the only happen because you were lazy, what interesting thing happen because you were lazy, oh no no no I do I do you different


you like to sit on it the way under critical moment, yes you are look at it, when the beep beep beep come out for you need to change your oven you are still engrossed on the, stupid thing on your screen then you run away


there is there is such a thing call like uh rewind, so you know to me it is something impressive of being lazy ya but the problem is like that what you say lor, I start something normally I tend to finish it lor


I don't really stop halfway, do you you, no no no you you correct when you start doing you do all the way but starting it ah that's the


okay last three questions, under personal, what useless subject ended up, being useful to you later in life I presume that the subject is what you learn in school you define as useless but it is useful in life now


I don't know that's I presume that is a question nah, so they use the word subject useless subject, are we said useless subject is normally we usual just study


if you don't apply it is useless lah, okay you study Buddhism right


[orh] to me I never practice so I we so, so pick one subject that is useless for you math science English, geography literature, art and craft


actually I do apply geography in today today life from my reading from the cloud the weather the wind flow for me yes it does apply to me, uh and to me geography is a subject let's say history, okay lah I love history journals


ya it just knowledge lor but its still not say useless lah, but doesn't mean, you know lah I think to me useless subject was religious studies because I study but I never practice


ya but my literature is what help me with my English now so , (ppb) so, so my my reading my pronunciation ya even though my writing skills quite bad but still


play a factor to now I think anything to do with English and math very hard to say can not, I say geography play a factor to me so day to day, okay last second question


what do you wish still exist from your childhood, my childhood , what's your question what do you wish, still exist from your childhood


your Bukit-Timah house


me from childhood I have to say is staying in Kampung more freedom, but can they do something about the toilet anot, that's it, Kampung life it is the best you know everybody help each other every time or whatever it is, is you know you are more carefree (ppb)


(ppb) no rules no restrictions no nothing, not only that in Kampung life you are almost self sustaining


you want chicken you steal from your neighbour or you keep chicken for yourself you want vegetable you either grow yourself or, you ask from your neighbour, you want banana you come to your own plantation or your farm so self self sustainable mah at the end of the day


ah that one that one got war ah zombie outbreak very good, because you are self sustaining, it all fun some it's okay what, okay last personal question if you find a time capsule


from yourself of ten years ago what would be inside (oo) ten years ago, actually no change


ya but that question would be, if you find a time capsule from yourself of ten years ago what would you find inside what would you put ten years ago inside the time capsule, I think in any time capsule people will put photos one lah


maybe, no no ten years ago I'm thinking what S ten years ago, maybe put in my Motorola water bottle lor


you know older things ten years ago then maybe some Star Wars Leia inside, eh no of course standard lah photo lor it would be maybe ten years ago what is the the top music singing on air


I think ten years ago you must put in an iPhone, I think that's when the iPhone came out, or much longer ago I think much longer much longer


(uh huh) so basically that's it lah, okay lah then don't hang up your phone ah, I finish already mah, and don't hang up the phone ah just put down when you go out ya, ya then we go out like


hello, hello hello, okay what topic do we have here student eh job career no food, I saw food


ya I really drink one, that's why I really need to go restroom okay food, what was the best most memorable meal you had where did you have it, uh my own cooking at my own house


ya mah what is the most best most memorable meal you had, might seem, was that the best let me I think I think people confuse because they are Michelin ratings lah they are hiring think they are the best


most memorable meal I accept ah, the best is it the best


pumpkin shark fin soup yes that one was no but that was not memorable to me that is the, crispy pork Belly that's right, ya but you ate also what all


you know what I mean if you talk about memorable that is the one there, okay lah the Haw-Par villa one still not so bad lah, then they put here what next food were you, planning to try next !wah! then Jialat lor we already eat almost everything leh


ya plan that's the problem I think lor plan what what to eat lor, what do I want to eat, uh precisely we ate almost everything so what is there what new cuisine


okay lah maybe uh maybe that one think if you watching all those food show and everything, maybe want to try those science science kind of food with white dry ice ah


no no nothing survey is nothing big deal to me, more like those typically during using dry ice lah then making those kind what puree form of like the olive from like those kind of food lor, that must try once, because I don't think I will get food but


no lah the you mean the the small portion is small is also thirty course only what, you tell me literally you only going to have thirty bites


ya you always show on the TV they always show they always serve like one spoon, one pathetic plate that, basically is still one spoon they still give you a knife and fork so you can cut it into four pieces so you can have our bite


got meh, eh good question what is your favourite food and put that topic


chicken rice chicken rice, that's why I told you you got problem


no they are not asking about something new is just like say one favourite food, even a bread is considered favourite know, you got nothing else to eat you can just eat bread you very happy okay considered fav favourite already


then what food in your neighbourhood ah, most famous for, there's nothing except for big eater crab


you say neighbourhood mah unless you talk about, nine hundred if you talk about nine hundred the only thing nice there and so called a lot people go eat the crab is big eater, correct, okay lah then uh if you go to pioneer nothing much there normally people eat the Kway-Zhap you go to the Pasar nothing much there even though you got


the one that I recommend, the one that she still bias she look at you aunty ah got big rib don't have


so bias, ya lah as though she also remember I think just don't like your face, you will never polite in thirty years what, that's true what you never polite in thirty years what so she like that lor


ya but then they also talking about what comfort food go to meal, uh you don't even have a favourite so what comfort food you have


actually my favourite is should be anything that's curry base, my go to meal should be chicken rice


ya, I always tell you mah why how could you don't have, should have one what what


because, that's life you know problematic mah, I mean even a comfort food even your comfort food normally people say [orh] comfort food is my mother cooking you also don't have, but that's beside the point, you know


you know favorite food ah maybe is, spicy food, uh curry this kind of food or this kind of food can be your favorite also don't have, really basic thing also don't have, you mah but food like I say before mah


so old already how you ask me do F&B run long hours so bad mah so I open a Cafe, a Ramen Cafe instant noodle, no ah you just do a maybe a breakfast place kind of thing that is uh


I want those kind of vending machine you pick which brand of super uh instant noodle you want then you pick whatever you want, your ingredient you want your topping you want then you just pay for it and you just come to counter and pick it up


ya but you know this instant noodle is still instant noodle mah people still eat mah, if not nobody will come up with so many flavor not true meh, ya I'm I'm not saying the asking you ah to eat everyday if you eat everyday I'm not as a the person doing it I'm not go out say eh excuse me


you shouldn't eat instant noodle everyday know is bad for your health how stupid can I be, the person should know better what, eh why I'm doing the talking you not talking ah


no you go, conclusion ah, what there is the topic is free and easy topic can talk about anything, no no need you can still continue to talk about food is free and easy


what what can talk about parent children education can talk about that until tired lor, ya our god children they our god sons


they are a pain in a butt in certain manners, they are not the cutest kids in the world, but they still greet us god parents god mother god father so


ya they still will greet you <mandarin>干妈:gan ma</mandarin> mah, ya no they know my name mah, ya they know how to call face


so art and culture, what genre count, what kind of genre account on books ya but then books I like Dan brown currently, I got no new books hor


no we got a lot of books at home you still haven't read, now you say any book you read then now you say, that some of them are not nice don't you think you just contradict yourself (ppb)


ya before even anything you already start yawning, I thought you got a remote there, lower lah


grammar books I think only Dan brown currently, music I'm not into it, I mean if you talk about, entertainment TV show ya lah I still like what ancient alien ah all this kind of


they're still the nicest ah I mean not end up stuck I think what most like most people nowadays it's netflix or, pick what you want to watch not this is what you can watch during this time


entertainment what genre of movies TV show drama did you enjoy the most


ya it have to be action packed but then at the end of the day we still go back to the older kind of show like CSI lah all this kind of thing what, no meh, by the way you know I'm doing the talking you're not talking eh


you are not, that's a problem I don't like about you you always want to contradict people telling you honestly you're not talking you been the whole time you go , then you you list the topic and you talk about it I listen


I contribute, what talking you, the problem why I don't like them is very simple because they are all at the end of the day the same kind of thing


ya that's the boring part lor like the Korean shows every one of them is like the same kind of plot


what action shows, no no no they have never been the same plot because like you say you watch Avengers every show is totally different like CSI every, CSI or S C I S with the different investigation yes sometime get a bit boring, because the investigation are almost the same same but I think they try to make it like every episode


it's that kind of different one episode somebody lose their head one episode somebody lose their hand , ya that kind of thing so at least still not so bad, you know you tell me I don't like but it has to be a very good show like the recently the netflix got the forest of piano


I watch it in one whole day to finish the whole Series what, white, you can not go and watch again what that's also one thing lor you're always like you need like somebody it to do it with you cannot do yourself you want to watch


no but I watch my but every time you also watch your Korean Korean Korean


ya but even those older shows also you don't want to watch you're not interested because not your current kind of drama , so movies okay lah still, actually all the new movies if it is nowadays if is not an avenger movie ah, or Marvel uh


not very attractive ah, I don't think you suppose to talk that kind of thing on the phone


it runs in the family I know, ya even the new one stupid Spiderman show ah movie, because, what's bond nah


A Venom, why not a Spiderman why Spiderman sick that day so come out Venom, I don't know


ya but I tell you coming to movies ah if it is not an adventure or Marvel or okay maybe DC ah, I don't understand lor


okay, can, actually, surprisingly like that time the we watch what show ah I can't remember the title what number one player ah about the game thing, eh no fighting for the game don't know what freedom whatever what that one not bad ah that one what


I don't know also I think the what number one player or player number one or something like that lor, the most recent one of the the giant shark one lor, what the racket doll


ya I know you reach the beach very bad already ah, reach the China beach also very bad already, but you saw that day on on the YouTube what the they show mah the word beaches that's why I say as really as describe in the movie what


ya so many people crowded can not move at all, ah maybe the movie the shark is during that time mah


why not true meh, actually coming to food ah talk about food later eat what for lunch, eat sour, I'm not I'm just asking


you are but I'm not , so you still haven't answer the question really that's always the problem I ask a question you never hear , what do you want to eat do you want to go home eat the bread


go home eat the bread then dinner we settle something lor, actually dinner, err seems like it, seems like it


then I still thinking ah no order for food this week, I know, no ah tomorrow got to go work with Brandon mah


tomorrow me and Brandon go shopping


I don't need that, gaming computer camera speaker handphone, headphone not handphone makeup tip shopping tip !huh! got makeup tip shopping tip ah


how come coming to the shopping ah they never put handphone ah okay maybe not really a handphone thing, honestly speaking I still don't understand why the new iPhone X max, the big one, is only a singles card in Singapore is allowed not a A Dual Sim card


ya don't understand why, that's all other than that (ppb) let me see you got job career student parents teacher meeting tuition enrichment class C, CCA examination eh student education examination Poly


CCA, actually I can never figure out how the preschool how they teach no the K one how they teach ah, cause never attend before, no remember I told you the preschool (ppb) one month teach one alphabet


for two years, so one month teach one Alphabet but the preschool how they teach ask the K one how they teach ah, ya but until I learn say at least now third


English and Chinese improve already mah, I don't know, maybe [loh]


they still got examination meh, ya but but, but primary school even though you got exam, but even you pass or fail you still go up right, until primary six only right


so do they still got streaming a not, no more right, no I thought after PSLE not PSLE, so only after PSLE when they go secondary school then they got streaming lah


no lah PSLE PSLE where got streaming, primary five that now no no more then I ask you now no more already what, no more examination that counts for paper what


so everybody in general is the same mah, ah see you start already lor, I always tell you you go err, I want to sleep already, ya if you are or you are stop talking you going


think problem is that, that year very taught oh long time never talk over the phone over two hours


err because now the school primary school got no more examination, !wah! how that I wish that was our time we


[orh] do you want during my my primary one to me teachers' day is teacher's birthday, **


one more year at K or two, nah I don't think his character will change much


I think is like that one lah can not be change one lah, the last time that time I told you see meet up because of the, going to NTUC or giant that one, they still beginning is the same thing lor always tend to hide from you one


don't know after that then don't hide, oh the most recent one only that time I told you mah come home I saw the the


De an come back from school remember a lot, eh there's one here, that's why I know two o-clock come home mah, half day mah because they he don't stay for what daycare or childcare or whatever lah


I don't know auntie Ellen says six in the morning wake up already, they go to school then by two o-clock come home, I don't know


cause they decided not to put him whole day mah, it's like that [loh]


I got no idea, I mean I do not know if they got tuition lah enrichment class or anything like that in school if they play but I think should be right is teacher take care what, if a teacher take care should be teaching you a bit of your syllabus or your subjects and everything what


ya but then it's like that for him to come back home at two o-clock lah


then later Kai finish at five lor, don't think they got tuition never ask her but I don't think so


ya don't know that time the what it is err somebody ask him change car mah that car very old already, don't know he put the car up online err showing the car just finish washing or something like that !aiyo!, I don't think uh I was thinking uh somebody should change the car already after all very old already what


no I don't know about new one actually you don't really need to what, have to admit lah it's going to be convenient lah but other than that not really more than that what


I don't, which I still don't understand why do you need to take a car to work because he stay at Jurong only mah, but okay lah because it's transport that time he says got to go all the way to Jurong East lah, cause going to Jurong island you have to go to Jurong East mah


around that area, that's why the pick up transport is at the Jurong East


ya why are you whispering already ah, yes you are don't ever say no to me can or not , ya that's cons, that's why not in sales job like me


I can do presentations for three hours straight, that's why, I'm auntie boy mah, put me in any situation I dig myself out for it


I mean nothing, you can ask them for the recording, no lah you can put me in any situation I can talk one mah


that is the way it works what, eh how come my phone now reset to forty minutes only, is yours the same the timer


probably so you got none I love to cook, ya cuz hobby what recommended activity for individual group and family none about indoor activity do you do none sport do you play none


(ppb) what parts of the hobby interest engage you none what do you every weekend none what do you, like to do for relax cooking (ppb) eh I can I can answer that one, what do you like to do in your free, time


cooking, only some of the part I can answer the rest I cannot answer, for me the answer the hobby will be cooking, cooking eating cooking cooking cooking eating


basically that would be all the whole lah attraction, not meh, uh you see again, first thing you go slow secondly you not talking anymore, ya you not eh you still don't understand the English word called talking there is no word there


no sound is sound but you are talking, in theory still got another ten to fifteen more minutes, of talking


ya then why you agree to come, ya lah then talk lah pick a job uh pick a job pick a career, what would you want to go back to work as


next, okay next, I don't know you tell me what your


career choice, the one they put here one what are your career goals and aspiration


you see ah if you go through this alone ah you you will know that you are very depressing person, ya but it's true mah if you look at okay don't talk about student education ah, you will just talk about job and career you know what are you working as okay never mind you already what is it about so what you like what drives


you in your career all this yes what drive you, see not even listening worse


no what drive you in your career what you do in closing account everything need to drive you to in your career, why got whistle one


finish already


hello, ya can hear you, we start from left to right top to bottom lor is it easier


so on the left hand top corner what do you have, I have two, so I circle my bird


(ppb) so yours is on the top I got, okay one of the bird is right on the top and one on the life right hand side, your missing bird is, ya


so which one do you which one do you, that I, so I circle my my right, my right the, the bird


okay repeat what I ask her for a while you hold on let me ask her


the two of us need to circle what we miss out, ya so I circle my right bird, okay, the birds are in yellow colour, is the bird in in yellow colour


okay, okay the okay next photo, I have two hays what about you, yup correct with one bow on the on the


ya, ya correct okay good, then follow down is a shop, ya, yes


yes correct, do you have a sign on on the wall, decorative mine is designer hair pin, some the designer so the the designer and yours the decorative is must circle


then there's a door, ya do you have a a a stroke on the door the colour difference, ya


ya correct, line down a a a flash, on top ah, but and then, err there's a there's a sign open right on your door okay the shop is on top of the right right below the roof right


is in is in blue colour right, ya the blue colour, in in big capital letters lah, okay


no, no, no mine is only designer hair pin that's it there's no for sale


then I just circle here missing ah for sale okay then okay next, ya boxes in brown, ya, open yup, then about the wall the wall is in blue


yup correct, with a bit of brown, correct then, okay flow, uh we don't yup


err no no no the top is, smaller correct, the the other one is cut off right ya correct ya two paddle ya


yup correct, ya five total of five lor, all the


[orh] I get what you mean next err to the corner of the the house side, six to panel, (hmm) that is in yellow correct


I think is more yellow lah not orange lah more yellow yup


like, just pink right, okay then is the same lor, ya same same lor correct, not rabbit and the cage to put them by me


the the roof, yup correct


wait wait one two three four, one two three four five six correct lor, yup, yes


ya two scoop right, yup, yes correct, err mine is on the left, so is different, on the left hand side


you say your bee is on top of the ice cream mine is not mine is on the left is facing on his on, ya, okay


so I circle my bee ha, okay, is a smiling face with the yellow colour hair


ya two ways ya correct, not not go up top down again ah, two goats yup


doing doing a brown, yes, no I have six three each three side [orh] no no no no ya


ya correct


ya the the goatees on the on the right one right, correct, nothing, no goatee


ya but there's no no goatee, then do you have a sign say meet Sue and Ted, meet Sue and Ted there's a sign, is okay the you say the the


right hand side goat with the goatee right there should have a signboard, next to it next to the the the the fence, outside the fence outside the fence


the meet Sue and Ted, okay so you don't have the sign sign board lah okay


mine is designer hair pin, D E S I N, then there's no for sales you say that there's a for a for I don't have for


meet Sue and Ted lah, okay, then after this okay this is fine already right


there's there they there is two right goat on the right goat there's a goatee, okay and then is a square fence, with eight uh pole, or fence okay pole lah next to it uh there's a signboard a a pole the wording is meet Sue and Ted


okay then at the end of it finish next picture below it of the fence, there's two sheep and one baby sheep do you have that, ya ya correct


okay that means uh missing one one adult sheep then, ya sheep is A, I just circle my sheep lah hor


I want to say thanks, okay we may continue, betting right


(ppb) there's more than four legs that means correct lah (ppb), I mean is curvy waving, that means circle the tail with curl lah


circle the tail, ya correct lor


it's a baby at the fur lah, as in the picture, okay look at the the adult sheep how does the tail look like something like the baby sheep lah


the means the tail of the baby sheep must circle, okay next picture


fresh fruit and vegetable okay correct, what you calling


one two three four five six correct, ya, ya correct, yes


I have three, so I circle, the green part, you you okay ya


what's the other in in between there's no there's no line right


because you look at the one, just there's one there's two big so call big, carrot in between, you you talking the in between you also counted as carrot is it


ya, one two three four five correct


yes correct, the the inner colour is lighter blue, ya correct


ya ya ya, and V V E G correct


so this part not there's nothing to circle, ya correct, oh holy, ya correct


yes, yes


ya same here one two three, just one ya it's correct, the the boy wearing a blue blue shirt right, long sleeve shirt, then this one is nothing okay move to next one


ya, yes


yes, yes, correct, no where's the shirt come from


okay missing mine is missing, ya, no I mean there's only two


okay okay I can see this one grey colour okay, (hmm) okay, ya ya okay then you can consider as three, okay, yes, green T shirt ya


yes correct, pause pause pause for a while please, okay, can can continue


yes, consider orange you know it's like a pink and yellow


yes correct, correct still got more of, is like bouncing bouncing it ya, one for me is only one


no only got red that means the blue one I circle, the the, the cloth is on the floor


the ghost right the this hanging the ghost the white cloth is on the floor for the blue one, that means the, then don't want me to circle the the white cloth on the floor, then circle circle


ya ya ya the same, yes correct


mine is totally uh the cloth I say ah cloth is on the floor, (ppb) then don't there's a boy but the the cloth is on the floor


yes correct, no mine okay go down ya mother cutting a pear correct, and there's one banana


banana is by the side of the cutting board, okay, that means is, not holding the knife


side lah, side of the board, cutting board, okay just circle lah


in blue handle, yellow shirt ya, blue blue, like a apron lah , pink apron ya, you blue


means correct, okay we can consider in the moment


just a A bit bold lah, mine without that means mine is without then I just circle, mine is just empty bowl, brown colour okay


I have two bags one empty bags one full of potatoes, that you have to circle the uh the next to it is a just a empty empty bag


ya, that means its on my my left hand side ah the that side that means for you, eight potatoes


what talking about, ya O T O E S there's a S at the potatoes


sorry


dark green okay, yes correct, ya, no mine is not mine is err like a light blue


no the on the door there's a stroke right, the main door, one the left hand side is the light blue stroke the right hand side is the white stroke


A bit a bit blueish leh, and then there's a knock


ya correct, yes correct, dirty green ah interesting


ya hacks with, white and red lor, wait lah, okay no the the the head sia ya the tone white and red, ya the circle line like there's there's the red colour circle


then, beard, ya correct greyish hair, ya dirty green mah


not holding the saw is on the table, oh mine is not mine mine the the the the saw is on the table, no so I circle the saw ah, uh so the K


one two three four, okay correct lor from this aim correct


is it one two three, four, five six seven, eight, nine ten eleven twelve what correct what


no no I circle what you have and I don't have the same thing must both okay, first okay now we go back what what that we did circle first is a bird


you circle the right hand side first you don't have bird on the right right mine has one circle this this, and the part correct, next is a shop mine is designer yours is a say yours is what ah, err decorative and okay circle that


then for sale I don't have so I circle the below, under the ya you have to circle under the hair pin sign, okay then, yes then the bee


mine is on the right hand side of the boy shoulder, okay then you circle that, now on top is the goat


[orh] mine is by me, bite me, [orh] then I have to circle that okay, okay, ha don't have


ya correct okay yes, yes, mine just normal normal lor


is like a okay can consider a stick lah if you want to


[orh] okay lah keep it as same lah, then next, ya, I don't have under the net right, okay I don't have so I circle that have you circle


okay, okay I don't have that one so I circle the boy in blue and I circle the cloth that is on the floor


uh the circle the boy the cloth also must circle right on the on the floor means the boy behind


okay means you have to circle that also right on the floor, okay next will be the old man is the floor, mine mine is the saw is on the table so circle that


no I don't think so is I don't think so leh is just the colour thing, ya, ya


okay by by the side of the cutting board so just circle that, you got two two pair right, nah don't have so I circle


I have two, uh one one empty, bag on the floor and one is full of potatoes, but she say have to circle leh


what what you, ya, one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen, I got fourteen how come


no, unless the sign board, there's one one whole, cir big circle instead one circle two, you know what I'm trying to say


I just take it as one lah okay, so I just erase off, draw a big circle, for the short one the sign okay


then maybe the boy in the in the girl side you say you have two I just, choose big one then the the cloth on the floor ya the cloth one I just erase off lah


how to there's two item missing leh I might got banana you don't have then the the salad I don't have you have


now I got twelve lor


twelve I got twelve meh, two, the banana and the salad lor


okay done, put down okay, okay bye bye


hello, okay, first if you could relive a moment of your life which would it be


R E L I V E, R E L I V E, A moment


and you want to relive that, you know your mistakes so what relive again means you will change everything you will not do the same mistake


ya I think that would be a total change of uh your life right


me, let me see, I think I would like to go back to where we go to you know dive that time, very relaxing


fun, whole day do nothing (ppb) just by the sea listen to the waves, that would be good, just stop at that moment, relive that moment that would be nice


that show I don't even watch and you watch, I mean thats carefree life you know just sit by the beach know have a drink just look at the sky or diving or something


buy an arc that would be fun to relive that moment, question, what dream of yours dies a little with each passing day


no lah no such thing uh


ya that would be very tiring, like still have to stand ya standing hours and the working hours is very long


I'm just thinking, maybe for, no career wise no have not, looking for a job for a year


maybe that's the end of my career already lor , there's nothing else already what


no more, there's this look for new job lah, kind of just give up (ppb), (hmm) okay next question, what embarrassing fad did you subscribe to when you were younger


F A D, fad what is that uh ya, what embarrassing fad F A D fad did you subscribe to when you were younger


F A D, D, not S as F


my tongue short, (hmm) did you subscribe


then okay the meaning of fad is, (hmm) not me ah, for me is like whole


don't really go out so much, not into whatever, what, in the market what they do now lah youngsters, what what what trend


ya lor our time there's no much trend uh, uh come on (ppb)


oh you did you did you go and tailor one do you remember or not


so you consider yourself extra something , no your pop song that time you are crazy about


sun and roses, no you went to collect the the CD yeah


you also went to buy Michael Jackson CD also remember, no you have a few not got one lah, okay lah


okay next one, A genuine a A genie give you the address of your true love but they are the, but they are on the other side of the world what do you do


oh what does what's the question a genie gives you the, okay I repeat, A genie give you the address of your true love, but they are on the other side of the world what do you do


ya lah (ppb) maybe earn some money buy a ticket to fly over something like that lah, eh no actually no actually ya that's what I'm trying to say no no I'm just saying if it's a genie you should say grant you a wish transport you


or teleport you counting, or even make him right in front of your appear in front of you why must you travel no need to travel what


correct lah this is silly question, okay next, ya under silly next, if the two person next to you are animals, what animals would they be


if the two person next to you are animals what animals would they be, testing two favourite animals lah I would like to have a dog


I'm not that but I if I have a pet I would like to have a dog what, I miss my old dog


you so cruel your pet already still can eat, there is saying only what we believe


so cruel thinking


not really no, cat, panda you ah next to it is a panda


okay next, if you could transform back and forth into any object what would it be, what if you could transform back and forth into any object what would it be object


ya that's why, back and forth, why


you ha (ppb) <mandarin>三八:san ba</mandarin> ah, no it's not, car can move move around or a plane can fly around something


should be, ya the small one the small one, but the phone you can not move you cannot move right you get what I'm saying cannot back and


okay lah that one can can consider lah ha


okay next question, what small decision made a huge impact on your life, small decision you consider as small decision


its, okay lor if if you put it that but it's a big decision not a small decision hello


but ya (ppb) correct but if there must plan plan ahead in before that decision making mah correct mah


you know ya correct


ya we are not raise in that kind of environment lah, okay next question


you, ya maybe ah what you said is the, quite true


don't call me can I mean it seems quite true lah, okay next you have died and can now see all the, statistics from your life what are some fun ones to look up


I don't know, what are some fun ones to look up


now reflect and see back the fun that you have lah you know this kind of thing


that mean that moment is the, will my memorable you know this kind of thing


you say a boy lah mostly that would be better


De-Kai, why how does he sound like, De-An or De-Kai which one ah, De-Kai ah at what err what age


okay


weekend, next question, fun is fun lah


what would that be ah, as I was saying I'm also a very boring person lah, no idea


they are fun to be with ah but to we, ya that was they are cute


wait their yours, in a way lah but they will not


but you will not able to see their milestone right or first step walking you should see their first time talking call <mandarin>爸爸:baba</mandarin> Mama kind of thing, go the thief


is is it, not not <mandarin>爸爸:baba</mandarin> Mama Mommy really ah, that's a the the the the first language to, really ah no wonder ah you not happy ah


you no that's haven't teach one right


that one is very cute (ppb), okay next, in a world with powers, what superpower would be the most useful for society


in a world with powers what super power would be the most useful for society


like superpower and they like like strength, flying, help that that that confident helpful for society


superpower no it should be the other one doctor doctor what ah what's his name again, doctor strange, he he can


he has the power to change time mah, he can go back time and change everything, he can change the situation then under certain circumstances then


then what superpower then


no I didn't the doctor strange is the, better power in the sense that, he can change even though it doesn't the outcome is not what he wants he can go back in time again and redo again re change again until, the such a factory outcome that he wants


I mean that would be the better better superpower that I will think it can really help and the society, okay lor okay next, how did you accomplish something that you thought would be impossible


how did you accomplish something that, I repeat again okay the question, how did you accomplish something that you thought would be impossible


how long is it how how short you want it to be (ppb)


accomplish and something impossible what is impossible, we don't go for impossible things one that's one thing that we


then how how to accomplish how, the most die real only mah


ya lah, but the basic the basic you know already what, may the basic cocaine I mean


that one totally don't have ah


should be my accounting, accomplish you know every year and finally come to audit, no audit or audit adjustment is my accomplish already, that will be the best, ya no ya close is one I mean might have to close what


but I come to here end is a is a the the thing this that without any adjustment that's a big accomplish, then next one tell a story about a time when you were caught doing something embarrassing


that is, tell a story eh, can you tell a story you know


okay


some people just didn't noticed lah just walk around [loh], but the doing something embarrass, doing now doing


like what, tell a story lah, need don't is you not embarrassing people that you are as in embarrassed


first of all what you going tell people, and that is not embarrassing thing what what do you mean by embarrassing thing, that is considered gossiping you you are gossiping uh


Wei the story for this one is you what you are doing caught doing, something embarrassing, is different different thing leh


enough ah that means there some some small embarrassing ah moments lah


it happens to me when I was very young, did that happen to you, that's why you always pack you


foil together as a pair you don't, ya lor, actually no, nothing uh, that, maybe I'm very introvert I don't really do much


go out much so there's not much embarrassing things one, part and passing I don't find myself anything embarrassing, okay next what was your


okay this so open ah I'm not even mad I'm impressed moment, no what was your, the opening


if, okay sorry sorry ah repeat repeat, what was your, I'm not even mad, mad M A D ah mad ah unimpressed moment


uh don't think so right that kind of


ya lor okay next ah sentence, describe an animal or colour to a blind person, what does it, or colour to a blind person


as a helpful lah


okay okay ya, other colours green yellow uh purple, very funny okay let me describe an animal


there have to be, is it be good if they can touch then they can feel but if they can't its hard to describe they cannot imagine


ya it it it can be said that because you pay so much attention to them they will return that kind of a affectionate back to you what, colour


it is hard to describe colour actually, because they cannot imagine what's a colour like ah, feel the warm, ya


white can consider as as no no coldness, since I went and dying soon uh


okay lah next question, animals ah I suggest mine is best that they can feel it to describe is like a like that lor the pointy ear, the sharp teeth big brown eyes


ya lah the but the green I can say pointy ears but, in their mind how did they imagine the animal will look like, that's the thing there's A, difficult to describe and they unless they can feel it they can bring the dog to them let them feel it


it be different lah, okay next question, you get the resources, to spend the next decade making an impact on your local community how do you help


okay, you get the resources, to spend the next decade


making an impact on your local community how do you help


for me I think maybe for food know give them food, I mean daily everybody don't care old or young, no, the food is the most important, like the resources you can give them


provide them meals everyday, why not I mean not say porsche lah I mean I mean


I mean as long can give them a proper food, no feed them, give them the, don't have to hunger give them a good food can lead to good health right, so you will be


food no no long run it should be more beneficial ah, okay my last one (ppb), if you could have any unusual superpower what would it be


again superpower, superpower is already unusual already what, what is unusual superpower can be unusual meh


is his suit actually not not his


uh okay okay Spiderman maybe but unusual okay lah he can make the spider web ah, flash ah


(ppb) no no no it should be the Aquaman unusual mah can live underwater, how underwater err , can control power can control weather also right


not meh, I thought so (ppb) maybe in the sea in the under the the sea can control wave or something something maybe, that would be unusual hey that is mine you must think of something


I done my part is you, flies consider unusual meh, it is consider unusual, no no no the other one is eh it that the robot guy what's that


cyber cyber cop or something, but his possible power leh ya lah it's man made, okay I finish mine


!aiya! again, have to do with IT one, not mah, ah like handphone thing like App or something, that youngsters will follow like crazy


that's what I'm thinking lah, (ppb) I don't really bother what's the trend or whatever is in the market lah just, for me is necessity I need a phone okay this is I need to use okay that's it I I I don't like follow


download this download that, not not me ah, after that IT lor they say everybody would use IT product lor


[orh] buying items from like Taobao you know clothing shoes bag, for me I like to physically look physically touch, !aiya! not not me also what (ppb) I don't follow this kind of music or


or okay lor because I I I'm quite boring ah I I don't do do such things


it not now consider it is already what it's just make it into market, whole license


I would think Singapore will, impose that kind of license, I won't think so ah cannot I need a Tom Dick Harry in this, get the car just like they'll just charge, then you like you're


buying car this kind of thing the the the, procedure same thing, that must be above twenty one you can learn driving then can buy car then bla bla bla


okay next question


a modern equipment ah


maybe handphone, but you cannot you see eh even say laptop and handphone you bring back to the past if you don't have Wi-Fi data you can not use what


then you cannot access lah, right or not


back to the future ah, ah when during examination time uh


if your answer written on your laptop right then bring back then do that'll be great right, [orh] passing full colour like that


no you should start from younger days like PSLE then go to the better better school in, in the secondary school then from there onwards lah not meh, correct


okay lah okay lah then your smarter lah okay, you must go back to school start from the beginning get better grade grades


sounds sounds sad lah pathetic lah okay then don't want, okay lah, your way better


then do what


you have to know the result mah, [orh] buy stocks stocks market that's all ah


okay, okay then you're smarter lah okay, okay next


[orh] this question very long can you repeat again


ya, big or small


ya mobile phone no I think, I still remember the water bottle very stylish leh, when you carry that time lah people will notice mah means your rich thousand plus handphone you can buy


status leh, handphone lah I say handphone, earlier I say handphone


earlier I said handphone then I said ya big one since it it's a, no the the old the old the first, the first handphone that created


now laptop now laptop also can use as a handphone what, nowadays technology is like that what


okay next question, what job


what kind of job can you do like a ants, live as a ant life lor, ya what can you do


that kind of job I don't like leh, ya


a job leh, yes was thinking of the like the uh live in a a doll house kind of thing, that's why lor, model for a doll house


why not that will be quite interesting uh, A live model


children I know back, [orh] pets okay okay, doggy biscuit


[orh] now they give you, what beef lah raw egg lah, last time last time I treat my my dog all the same thing what


ya ya


white cat meat cat feet lah, oh my God correct


okay next next, ah third aunt favourite ah, what (ppb) action just hide you , hide in the jungle with food water


wait for somebody to save you, your your shouter man


as I say mah food water hike lor (ppb), what can you do


ah turn yourself into a zombie ya must well join the gang ah cannot fight just join ah, unless you are dead lah then


if you are not dead then you still can turn into a zombie right that's what the movie say is what, that run run to those military uh


bunker ah, or something like that


that's the only thing you can do what, ya lor, ah next


repeat your question again


my death ah


change, if I, that means I know the outcome that's why I want to change right


ya change or I'm not, I don't think I'm into accounting but just for the sake of you know, don't know I mean if you tell me there's there's there's then means I should have know then I should change lor


ya lah that's everybody wish what


maybe during our time, is still not A, so called a career path lah so there's not much place that you can learn from


fee, one thing uh, the essential part is food [loh] free


while we live we eat to death mah, so that's the most important food have to be free


err no lah that's ridiculous lah without handphone I also can live with it, what for, I think will be for the essential for living what is it we need to is is to eat we eat we need to eat food


ya, okay next, under the bridge


again


only twenty minutes, so short, morning in office lor, maybe ten O-clock, when the business busyness start to pickup


the twenty minutes what can you do, five PM


ya what ya twenty minutes ah !hanna! ah, why, you really a gambler ah you


ya, then straightaway go and buy then


okay lor okay lor you win lor


!aiyo! okay lah, next


what what what say again say again, most frustrated ah


really leh don't have lah, really nothing, at the moment only lah after that okay lor


at that moment that's all lah you don't you don't hold grudges for what, and that moment they angry of course lah


then next day forget it and then move on lah what to do (ppb) what can be done, what boy wrong boy, oh that that guy ah eh I make the first step move to talk to him hor


he he give me he making me cold shoulder lah that is a it is frustrating ah, uh you see you you you brought it up I already forgotten okay you see I don't hold grudges ah, that time lah that moment lah that period lah


let the past be past lah


impressive thing that I have ever done ah, I I I think I think it should being, when I climb Mount-#Kinabalu#


impress myself that I can actually make it, why nothing you you achieve what that time during your running days


you achieve the goals that you want lah


it'll be fun, next round with somebody else lah, with another group of people lah, maybe when De-An De-Kai grow older they say <mandarin>干爹:gan die</mandarin> let's go


ah interesting story for being lazy, where got such things (ppb), you lazy already means you Kena scolding already where God


interesting story or, nothing, uh then such thing will never happen to me


I'm not naturally lazy okay, no (ppb), no , no


then you yourself, actually for the two of us our character we do we do we don't


no no, no, no no


no I have to pause I have to hold and then change then I come out then


ya do do do already go all the way your haven't, laze around, no


useless subject, be useful in life lah


err literature study considered useless meh, they teach you moral leh, I don't, I told you during my time I can opt out what that's why I didn't pick literature study what


I pick geography ah I didn't know didn't really


really err apply, in day to day life what, not true, then what


then told me is not lah, just history know the history of the past, that's the knowledge lor


is good to know uh ya, next, about literature last time you study literature


its not I'm correct its true


still at, maybe the old house that I stay in, the Bukit-Timah house


a big garden, then my dog still alive, then play at the swing, that will be nice


ya like you can go and play with the longkang water ah


no I, but you have to step up leh cause it's dangerous leh


old photos, ya the old photos lor old photos


maybe some memorable things like old toys, what else would you put inside okay other than long


and now it's collectable eh


why, much longer already ah considered ya


that's it I'm just I just put it on, okay can I don't know just put under the table okay lor bye bye


hello, eh the water can drink right from the table


eh the regent leh regent hotel the one you brought me to the


then how about the made in China, like the, shark fin soup, the best shark fin soup I ever had


ya your you went there without me eh


clan ah clan, wait that's almost everything international (ppb)


ya those , what Suay way of doing the food ah


I think you will get in a in a way a small small portion but a few course I think you will get full one


okay lah you, any bird okay I first smaller mouth so I can have three four bites, or you have bigger mouth you can one one big bite that's it


I don't have a favorite food, I don't think I can eat the food every single day same thing over and over, maybe lor


well you have to have something new what not always the same, ya but


okay what food you, I think this, famous, okay lah


okay only ah I think that's not so famous it's not famous what, but it's not famous


[orh] I know that one I know one it's not the the famous it's their Bak-Kut-Teh, ya ya you recommend it


actually no lah I'm not I'm not the regular lah that's why, what what's wrong with my face, what lah


no I ask her nicely, auntie do you have big ribs, she said no what can I say no lor no lor


then to go too near lor, come try the food, I don't have


can't think of anything, she don't cook much okay (ppb) by the way


in Singapore market may not able to


Singaporean ah more health conscious nowadays eh


ya I'm talking, okay next topic already, I mean the food, is also finish already what


they are not our kids so


they don't know how to know other names, Ang Ang you always Ang Ang


but his books I still find it, I will read long long actually all the books ah we should read lah


from that's not why my my


actually the air con here very cold, ya, I change


now you cannot download anymore


action pack, I am he saw


even say the the movie still those story don't like also what


are they the movies, those love stories don't like, is a love story what what what can they go (ppb)


beyond that, there your action also the same point like no such difference ah


must be those dramatic kind lah


then watch the game with me ah, oh why, then they have nothing common show to watch together mah


because now nothing nothing much to watch what


ya lor true, eh the the mamma-mia part two right can you download that one, oh cannot ah


which one oh the Venom Venom, Spiderman how many parts we keep repeating


we must come out like new new, character and then the story can last longer


actually their last , the last one that we watch the, Avenger can we watch again, that one not bad


the one not bad, but can't remember the title, the one, beginning not bad


then after that, the ending not so nice, ya lor


ya lor, they are doing their so call their public holiday everybody rush to the beach


maybe, eh getting hungry also


[orh] what what what did you say


still raining right just now did you see, when you're outside


then this week just relax lah


eh there there's a list right under shopping, latest makeup skincare trend I don't know, ya me too next


ya there is


that time you mention already mah you say that Singapore don't allow lor


that primary one already have to be increased and assess to be improved right, Lim should ask her how does this call, final exam, for him


is this year have mah first only next year they start, you haven't even clear the first one, something like that I think


don't think so until PSLE lor I think, PSLE got streaming mah no meh


[orh] then, primary five that time is what


so what, everybody sleeping


yes, I have to change this one I keep flipping


ya lor, that time we're still so, young innocent, ignorant also don't know what what is whatever school teach then straightaway go to primary one then !wah! start to learn big words, spelling lah math lah


uh not well prepared uh


ya lor not morning, but is he still very sociable or not if not uh again, am I all is to himself only ah


why ah, but that was so long ago already, recent month we have not seen him so many change already


but two o-clock very late right you know, actually what time they start what time they end, isn't a bit early for him leh


then lunch so late, don't know what they are thinking of


but no another thing is like if they put in whole day in the SC, the second teacher teach, the student


come back home later then if it's good if you can stay even further, eat lunch then sleep


no ah actually, by not keeping him whole day in school already know the financial you know not stable ah


who ask him to change car, actually is necessary to for him to own a car


convenient in what sense that he can wake up later then go to work


weekend they don't go anywhere so what what's the point of I think this car


his office is Jurong island, I think is also okay mah for him to go down to Jurong East


whispering (ppb) hey no, okay maybe getting softer and softer very tired talking eh


doing accounting why do I need to talk so much, even for administrating work also don't need to talk so much, maybe


you did what, no I say what did you say repeat again, that part I know


what do you mean by forty, the timer on the phone ah ya ya correct, ah those topics they put there I not interested leh


we are not the active kind mah, we like to laze around


I just say (mmhmm), as long as there's sound can already


I am not a chatty person leh, he term


definitely not accounting, administration job lor easy, relax, yes voice mix


much ready mah


don't have, those days are gone ah


ya I just say [ah], responsibility and, need to close monthly account just to do [lah] just to do


hello, hello


you saw the picture right I think it's that we have the same picture but with differences, start now lor, so you want to start from the left hand hand corner lah


start from the, uh okay lah anything lah


which one you are starting, twelve


twelve to three right you're talking


your door have any push sign or not, ah okay I think first different mine a push sign, uh below the err round glass, see through


and your wine list got any name or not mine have a wine list then below got rose peach, my wine list is near to the door on the right side


ah yes below the word bar then on the the placard there is a wine list then a, a rose peach


uh ya lah that that ya I think that is the what because mine don't have, mine is show mine mine don't have special offer mine just read wine list, rose peach


then uh your your, ya, yes, then I think your dustbin is one is open one is close right, oh mine is one open one close the second one the second one near to the


uh right hand side is close, uh no away from the building is


building yes, yes


something like dark brown, yes correct okay I think that one is okay lah you can proceed to the two person drinking the wine on the


the the first quadrant right


err yes mine also, and the girl is wearing a blue err this err, okay ya mine is also same, on the table is two glass and a bottle only right


okay I think mine is the same, then, okay the next corner you have a seesaw


nearer to the, is at the, it look like, eight ten it's showing at the eight ten position


uh with nobody siting on top


mine is ball is round the one on the, two O-clock is also brown yours is err white right so I think that's the first different, okay and err next one nearer to the


right corner is a lady, uh with a very big, beach ball, which is a green and dark green colour, and she's wearing a two piece bikini err


pink colour and wearing a hat, which is, straw hat kind of it's a sun sunscreen straw hat, orange colour, okay then after that


there's a big umbrella, which is err blue and white stripes, the first err the first session, is err blue white blue white blue white


yes, ya clockwise, yes and there's there's a skirting below got three section and all are blue


okay then beside that is a a a sun chair, at the, in between the umbrella and the lady with the beach ball the beach ball is a huge beach ball ah


okay and between them there is a sun chair, and is facing away from the lady and it's in a stripe, orange white orange white orange white


I think that's it


err where, uh no, above her or below her


uh no, K that's second difference, anything else you have


okay


err mine is showing local shellfish, that is at the left corner right, uh okay I think that's one different


okay, okay and her swimsuit got any pattern, how many you have


uh okay mine also five, okay


antenna is facing, pointing which direct, one o-clock, okay and the radio have a, two buttons and one err speaker speaker this thing right


both of them has the wording, okay


okay, okay then on the


okay the door have two glass panel also right, okay do you have a doorknob, okay, and the gentleman is uh bald right with two two two hair on his head


and both his hand is on the armrest, and his chair is err, dark orange, and he's wearing socks with sandals


okay err mine have socks and sandals, so that is another different, how about the magazine the the lady is reading it's a book or thin magazine


okay, okay, then your this err food shack do you have a Joe sign there


okay that's, on top there is a sign round sign that says Joe's, food shack, okay, one two three four five six seven


okay and your building what is the colour, and your building roof is grey colour right, and the side of the building


there is a, stripe four stripe, and the side at the front one err matching except the second one is err matching the window right


okay, think that's all how many you have now one two three four five six seven eight, eight now, okay the last err quadrant you got err


anything else inside your third quadrant, okay the last quadrant you have a a shark in the sea


ocean, on the, right side of the fishing rod, and two seagull, further away


err both mine is heading the same direction, one is bigger one is smaller right, err which


okay the two o-clock direction mine is heading same direction as the other one


okay mine is also three fish, and they are looking at which direction, the the bottom two is facing each other right, the one is facing the shark right, okay


then there is two signboard one is the arrow sign green colour, which is closer to the shark and is have a dark arrow pointing, err at the nine O-clock direction


okay there is a wording on there mine doesn't have wording mine is just an arrow so that is one different


no mine is showing Paul and Joe's diving school so that is another different, one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven eleven


yes, yes, ya lah one two three four five six


okay, okay the man in the fishing, he have a fishing rod and his rod is showing uh, eleven o-clock direction


and the line is, about sixty degrees to the rod, ah ninety degrees to the rod and he's wearing a green hat, and he's wearing a


almost like the beach colour lah, darker, okay


and khaki pants, okay, I think that is it anything else inside your this thing


so I think maybe the second one we have two only, okay we start with the second one ah you you describe your second you you describe your one


okay and there is both have a iron bar right, okay, so below below the seesaw, where they hit the ground there are


ripple sign ah, both also have right


there got how many line one two three four four line, oh she's sitting on the beach floor


oh mine is not sitting, mine is standing, she's standing and then her arm is out stretch and holding onto the beach ball


oh then I think that is our different because mine is standing, okay so now we got how many one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve twelve already, I think we go out but don't hang up the phone ah just leave it on the table


or I go out first and check lah okay don't hang up ah okay ya


hello, how is you want to start or what, hello, I think it's different ah what what is your there's few right there's story


creative personal


oh okay, ya, so I think you start first lah, oh I start ah, okay lah I start with creative how would you design the most fun house in the world


like what kind of house you want lah just I think basically just describe your house ah big garden big green house, you like gardening or you like adventure something lah blah blah blah


how would you design the most fun house in the world, maybe you got your swimming pool in the basement or swimming pool on the rooftop, basketball court bowling alley


bowling channel karaoke room, workshop, secret lab, a big garage


maybe a slide ah


is what


I don't think I saw that episode ah, so I can't imagine you see, oh okay but I can't remember the house ah


maybe like the Lord of the Ring that kind of elf (er) treehouse


ya, cannot hear you leh speak louder hello


ya and a big swing ah, those kind of very nice looking swing


ya I I think [orh] maybe maybe you can add in one more like the Howl moving castle the kind of, door where you can go to other place one, that would be fun


okay that's nice, okay so, you want to ask the next one or you want me to ask another one


what is the most useless superpower


err let's see, maybe I think standing, or maybe riding a horse, or riding a dragon


and then flying flying to the sky, ya lor looking in front, just looking like, I don't think in a in just like like a


no lah I don't think so I mean just a, riding on a dragon


flying, towards something, ya something, just enjoying the breeze right there, my dragon will have the wing spread wide


that's it lor not much, I think that's about it lah, okay so now my turn


okay, you get to add a zero to any number in your life where do you put it


yes, add a zero to the bank account add a zero to your lifespan, or add a zero to, to, number of friends


ya lifespan


add a zero to the hours of the per day you have, or add a zero to the number of family's member, or add a, add a


or maybe add the zero to the number of houses you have, or add a zero to the number of, things you want to do, or add a zero to the numbers of uh let's see what you can add zero


nothing much lor only, most beneficial one would be age lor if you want to live that long


okay, I think we have the same card is it your card is do you have that card, you get to add a okay and then we have, the card is thought provoking


you get to add a zero to any number in your life where do you put it, you have this card, oh that mean all fifteen are different cards ah


first thing, first thing


space travel, can I book a ticket for traveling to space, hopefully by then I can book a ticket and go outside, is available


or are we will still, ya, and see how far we have gone or we are still stuck here


(hmm) I think that's about it lah, not not much thing to say


okay what was the your most interesting classroom experience


outside class your writing class your Guzheng class, you meet somebody your teacher make a joke


no interesting all lah or somebody read you comment somebody read your poem or something, I think my most memorable one, I have only one that until now I can remember is somebody wrote a very good essay in the GP class


I can't remember what was said in the essay but it was a damn good one until now I can remember that instant where he read out his essay, it was so impressive I can still remember that moment but I cannot remember what was said but I know what he said inside his essay was


a very thought provoking and, unique, viewpoint, that is the thing


what


where was that, which class was that, JC


okay , okay your turn (ppb)


let's see, I think durian is the only one that is, can keep and make a damage, but then how to how to use


the durian, ya


I think maybe the only thing possible as a weapon would be coke and your mentos what, make them eat the mentos, and then we share the drink


but then if you you cannot, you know mentos and coke you mix together it produce a lot of bubble right, so that burst their guts ah


ya lor, so food fight well, let's see what is the best weapon what is


let's see ah, I think only durian lah, but durian is heavy that only the durian shell, err


they fight to the death what fight to the death with only durian right


ya lah if is it they it is mean you have this continuous supply of durian !wah! you can throw and kill them what, do you think you might get you might get, tired from the


let's see , they cannot eat what, food fight, unless water you can drown them but then


you cannot err win


if you have three wishes what do what do you wish for


three wish only


what what do you mean chivalry


okay, like that ah for me is, still, quite different from yours ah first is


I wish I wish I am strong and, healthy, I have no worries, on my physical, physical


limitation, second wish is I wish I have more money than can imagine then I can use it for whatever way I want endless supply, third wish is


third wish is a bit stuck lah, in between, like say more time to do what, I want to do, to be


able to understand, the working of nature and the working of our work, in terms of the breakdown, that mean to understand, to know the secret


of what makes our world and our universe stick, the answer, the ultimate answer, to know the ultimate answer


ya lor that's why lor so whether to ask for more time, or to know the answer, if you got more time and then you cannot find your answer, it will be regrettable


or if you can get the answer and then you you don't need the health or you need the money anymore, but then the fun, would be taken out of trying to find the answer


for, !aiya! we only spend about twenty minutes, err any other interesting topic let's see


lost of innocence, I think I quite disappointed if I were, my younger self, is that I lost a lot of


my innocence in the sense that, the not only the trust in people but the ability to dream, to to believe


or to imagine the impossible, the, the desire to create, and the desire to make up, stories


ideas, adventures, ability to, believe, in the


impossible, the ability to believe in the goodness, or the, best of people


I don't know, if you say we don't really believe enough maybe like I say is, because we are, being uh wear down or


weathered down, by reality, and


I don't know maybe that's the reality of life you know, so that is the reality of what is happening now


too sad too bad, we should all be able to to to to, what is that word, ah can't remember what is that word lah


to be more than yourself to, okay nevermind we


this is not about about about about about about about this this this thing okay, okay on to the next topic, what label do you think you have been given by the society and how are you different from them


what label do you think you have been given by society and how are you different from them, okay that label L A B E L ya you are successful err graduate


or you are successful, manager, or maybe, you are a failure because you are not


being promoted or you are, wasting your time by not working you are a bum, you are a, anti social


bully pussy, what is that, misfit, anti social misfit, any kind of labels what what do they usually say about you


what label do you think you have been given by society and how are you different from them


when you talk what do your colleague or your classmates say


overbearing


bulldoze your way through, uh give you


so how ah how different are you from their perception


okay, okay your question


how my favourite topic will change, I don't think it would change, basically (ppb), the conversation topic is mostly likely


is, discussion of ideas, maybe more people be open to ideas to talk about their ideas


topics you you are talking about topics, how my, I don't think it will change not sure because my favourite topic so far has been discussion of ideas, until now I cannot find anybody to actually


to exchange discuss, fight, argue over that, constructively most people shy from this, discussion or this conversation


so, I'm still very much into this, (hmm) maybe probably the next


I don't know maybe if that's the case maybe the next, conversation probably like you say will be cats how is my cats doing my cats is, starting to, do this thing or are having another kitten


I don't know


then people will say !wah! you, you are so you are so pathetic, but then what is the different man to me is, if you have a cat as your child and you have an actual child what is the difference just because they are human does it make them


more more interesting or more, more deserving of affection


ya lah crazy cat lady (ppc), but who cares what they think okay, what is, ya what is your favourite memory from childhood


I think we got a lot of childhood memories, uh but now also can't remember most of it


I think I can only say memories most memorable one is cheap time spend with, mum and dad, in the house, for normal normal thing watching TV


going out, going to the park, going to


I can remember ya I can remember only our first, KFC experience, we go to KFC right the same place


our first time we all go there, it was like a big restaurant then I remember we also go to the big, Chinese restaurant on top of the now NTUC right


there were the the I, I think KFC was the first one then A and W, anyway like I say those are, bits and pieces you remember


not the whole thing but maybe the feeling of that, time that going there the, vague image of, been there, done that, kind of thing


okay what's your topic


two four six eight nine same (ppb), we got another half an hour to go, what is the thing that you do


I can't, I don't think I do anything different from, maybe I'm just more


what I do, maybe more, systematic than most people when I do thing, usually I try and see


the bigger picture and then, you sure ah compare to you and most people I would say I do thing more


maybe, okay like like, maybe different in the sense that you say we try our best to, to reduce waste by trying to


incorporate more sustainability in our lifestyle, by bringing, bags for our grocery reducing the use of plastic bags, by


trying to recycle whatever we can and trying to do the five Rs, refuse, so far I think we haven't start on that, reduce reuse repair and recycle


so we still have uh to work on our refuse yet, we are still, we still buying a lot of things what we should refuse a lot of things


but now we are still we we are still big step behind lah I would say, we haven't got to the actual stage of, really


ya lah that's why I say we should, I won't say one week one bag lah I say about three days one bag lah


so I think we can do better lah, maybe we should start to, push harder on refuse


okay err


ah skip that one lah I don't know lah, a surprise


I don't think I ever received any surprises eh, I never give anybody any surprise also


basically I think our life quite relatively, boring ah, and not spontaneous, and not, glamorous or colourful


ya lor that's why we never do this sort of things sometimes we need to be a bit spontaneous, we need to be, to be


okay if you say surprise, maybe I try to do something once but then it didn't really work out so kind of a, no surprise surprise, like one Christmas I bought I was on board


a vessel then I try and surprise everybody with a small Christmas gift, so at midnight I hang it on their door, then the next morning nobody really say anything nobody say they receive anything or nobody I think even noticed there's something on their damn door


so it's a kind of disappointed surprises attempt surprises


!huh! six more I got so many more, how you did you choose your career


why would you say that


why you cannot do ah too hard


okay but honestly actually what I think is, we have a job, I don't think we have a career , or most of us have a job, I don't think most of us has a career


that is my perception, anyway on with the next topic, what is the worst way to meet a future significant other


I actually I don't think there's any worse way right, if you are meant to meet or you are meant to be the other significant other, whatever way is, actually


it's the right way what right


okay what dreams from your childhood, have you achieved


can lah can start working on it now lah then at least you still got chance, eh same as me also but I think not, not really


achieve, what you wanted, like I say, we we have


I don't know most people possession is, robot human good, what can I say


okay I have six left


I think I have a few of those moment but, but I don't think they are so, memorable or they are so significant


until I can remember them, most are I think kind of awkward situation where, where I find myself


in a situation where I don't like, but, I have to stand my ground, and, push on, like


in situation where people gang up kind of like being bullied, I wanted I have that thought I have to get out but, I cannot get out, I have to stay, because I got no choice because if I back down and get out


then forever will they push on it so


err ya more like a frightening moment, embarassing moment is there also I need to get out kind of


thing, (ppb) but like I said those are passing moment actually not, not, really, embarrassed to the extent that I had I can remember them until now lah


if I I have to remember them until now that mean it's very damn embarrassing to a degree beyond belief


okay my side, which of your possession holds the most sentimental to value to you


I think the most sentimental value one I will consider is our house that's why, our old house, that's why it's a bit difficult to let go, cause all the memories


like I say I wish we have a Howl moving castle, where you have that special door, if we have that special door I think we won't we would definitely won't let the house go, we would have kept the house


anyway like they say he'll need to move on, okay hey one more you have the power to create any physical object the catch is that it, talks and is really annoying when you are alone with it what do you make


you have the power to create any physical object, the catch is that it talks and it's really annoying when you are alone with it what do you make


you make a (ppb), eh what what what do you call that thing ah the the, the the the the


serenity one that that computer that that err


how do I prepare myself for the future, I would probably, for the first year, pretend to be a toddler, real toddler


don't speak don't talk don't, show my intelligence, just, observe my surrounding then slowly after that, maybe I will start


behaving like a genius then they will treat me like a genius and then as I grow older I can become the genius, with insights


I don't know, I just talking and then okay lah I think err try to push through the, four last one fast fast then we can go for a break


I have nobody to meet for the first time what story to tell, stories eh


I think the only stories I love to tell them is they will ask me why you, and his love for machine and his ability


to understand and, and, and Excel in what he do


so maybe now you can start telling story about my cat


okay get two words from the people around you your superhero name is a combination of these two word what is your power, and origin story, get two words from the people around you your superhero name is a combination of those word what is your power and origin story


okay you give me one word then I give you one word, distorted


so what is your power and what is your story, how you originate, and how do you go about


how did you come about


how will that that work


okay what is the best way to introduce, to introduce a novice to your favourite hobby, what is a novice, ya


ya so how do you


err maybe you can introduce by okay giving them the fruits from your or the flowers from your garden, then you can, give them free soil free sample


and encourage them to grow, tell them the possibilities of how to grow their favourite fruits lor, something like that lor, I left two


usually I don't celebrate much with people, so whatever victories I have I think is just, a small obstacle that I cross is not the great


great, ya maybe most most likely most of the time maybe I just go and


do something that make me feel good, like buy myself a little present something that I always wanted but have always, feel (ppb) is too expensive, or feel is


err what, what what is that word, what is that, no extravagant ah something


err <mandarin>太奢侈:tai she chi</mandarin> what is that word, too too that mean too expensive and too, ah extravagant


so maybe I will reward myself with that, reward myself with a day off doing nothing, watching my favourite TV show of my favourite movie over and over again


just lay back and do nothing, (ppb) too bad lah


okay lah it's almost it's eleven O-clock we have to finish, describe the tastiest thing you have eaten in as much detail as possible


I think the tastiest thing, we ever eat or a few of the tastier thing I ever eat was cooked by, mum and dad, think the, the tastiest one (ppb)


or the, most memorable one will be the, the the, chicken rice soup, which they always cook and I remember one time when this


lady came over and, mum offer her some of the soup !wah! then she was so, impressed by it that, she rather drink the soup than eat the chicken rice and the chicken


I don't know err I I don't know I think you was not there you uh I think it was one of her friend or it was just, neighbour who brought a friend or something, so that was mum and dad one I think is


what he always quote, on his experiment he did a few right, I don't really like his chocolate mousse but I think you and bro really like them


I think, maybe I like his other one ah the the, peanut the one the cake with the the cake the the, the the


that one with the peanut the cake with peanut on top the he make the very big one that one, ah that one (ppb), think most memorable one is that one


we got a few time we cook the chicken the chicken drumstick, I think a lot of the good recipes is gone because we never really, that's why I learn from them before they pass on, so it's our loss and the loss of our


next generation (ppb), good food, not safe, what, ask what


if life is achievement system what is, okay, like I say the most to me the most, impressive, would be, self fulfilment lah


to be able to reach self fulfilment, would be the ultimate achievement, I maybe to some people getting married getting a family having children


is a, achievement which I don't deny, but if you are able to contribute to the society, and the civilisation as a whole by bringing, it to the next level


I think that would be a greater achievement, in term of, the ranking I would say to me ah


okay, okay last one get a new superpower decide by the person to your left what do you do with it, okay if you have, if you have the ability, to


okay you have ability to stop time with a snap of a finger


if you have the ability to snap, your finger and stop time for that, one second, what do you do with it


one second you can stop and then move somebody from the away from danger one second snap, you can stop time, and defuse the bomb, for one second you can snap your finger


one second is long you know one second is not short, okay lah thirty second lah


okay lah ten second ten second what you can


you can change people mind what, go to somebody ears and tell them something, ten second, and you can change somebody mind you can the mind of leaders and the mind of


mind of a, not say want them to say but at least you can influence them what


who knows, like they make a bad decision, some killer they want to kill somebody you go to eh ten second you just snap your finger go and tell them this is wrong do not do it, and


after that ten second you snap back, it's as if their conscious is telling them, think again what you do stop what you are doing don't do anything bad, then they stop do it so it it it it it instead of helping the victim you are also helping the person who could be a


what what do you call that, okay my card is finish yours


what if, stand in their shoe and say what if, I think that is the best argument


uh don't hang up the phone lah I just go outside ah think you go outside first ah okay ya


eh ya I don't know lah I thought supposed to be two hours


I thought they say the just now topic can talk long then this three talks, can do shorter what, (ppb) parent education and children


student education job and career food, car and motorcycle and shopping, entertainment, hobbies, entertainment, okay talk about doctor who lah you watch the latest one ah


I thought last time you can watch, oh okay


three men and a baby ah why, I can't remember, I don't think it's a so memorable movie for me


oh can't remember


anywhere I hope uh that that, novelty last lah


well I sometime I think it's getting a bit, ya but I think I'm getting a bit tired of all this thing ah, you mean a movie why do you have to, I mean, suck up to everybody or try to make everybody happy


you including all this thing if it's needed in the story go ahead fine, but it is not needed in a story why do you have to make it into an issue or to a what, becoming very boring just like whatever movie they make okay if this


this main character is supposed to be a Chinese you must die die have a Chinese play, ya if it's, all the, or the logical sense yes preferably a Chinese should play if you can find


a good actor who can act better, why do you have to stick with a a a Chinese, actor who cannot even


I don't know you try and find the, best fit for the character if the character, is, I don't know if the character is, is is a certain a certain race or a certain gender or a certain


a certain this thing, you try and find to fit that one but if you really cannot then you should find a best person to fit, character of that character what, I don't know


ya on it unless it's it's a totally different stories okay fine but if you insist that after changing it it must be the same story, then why why why be so, (ppb) like if you okay I'm, err doing this story is based on this story is fine stick to the original


intention of the story if you change something then it should not be the original story then then you treat it as a different story lor, I I anyway like I said it's becoming very, confusing in the movie


scene or


ya like like I say nowadays it seems to be a lot of discrimination coming out and then, anyway what can we do we try our best


okay like I said it is okay that is overdoing it a little bit I mean ya of course they uh, they are, great actor who can pull off, as a sixteen but then


I don't think you have a lot of those, so, unless unless you really really really cannot find any decent one then you, use that as a option but


what I mean is okay in terms of, like for example if you are in a country where, everybody is a, a westerner then uh you are producing a film you don't go and purposely hire somebody


who is a say Asian or African err for for that character who who, who, is, in that the movie script, unless they they specify is


as a Asian or a African okay fine but if it's just a character that you change the character but you don't define, the character as a particular race or particular, sex then the stories go on ah


but if you are still sticking to that, that that that scenario where that person is a, like you say that person is a, sixteen years old or that person is a eighty years old or that person is a a certain race certain sex


then you find, a guy to become a girl or a girl to become a guy then it's, a bit ridiculous already, so


almost similar already, ya like kind of like the face change only the people change only the stories still the same, rerun


ah anyway let's see


okay lah let's


sci-fi sci-fi all the way sci-fi sci-fi sci-fi


like I said now now they are, catering to the so called, popular trend lor, unless you define popular trend, or you you


define or defy, so it's up to you, then you create your new popular trend (ppb), !hais! anyway nowadays also the TV shows also


not really, so


I don't know lah it's a, some people is saying you watching too much TV you are killing your brain, yes but, there was a time when, TV was actually very nurturing


I think in in putting forward ideas and, and belief or opinions and, and err argument, but nowadays it seems that it had become a propaganda tool


so it's no more, no more like giving you a, how would I put it a a broader sense of, opinion and let you decide it seems that it have decided and yet give you what you are supposed to chunk out


oldies


ya !ugh!, like I said is a, thing lor, what can I say !haiya! nowadays, like recently also uh cannot recently also, I don't think any interesting one we saw eh


ya I think I saw which movie was that I can't remember, uh I can't remember I I was going to watch another one, but then


no Pooh bear, what, hundred acre forest hundred acre wood, actually it's quite I quite like the story it's about this uh uh this uh Pooh bear


err so Robinson Christopher Robinson, he have grown up and then he, his parents send him off, from his, her house, because they think he's grown up already so he now work in a luggage


firm, they make high end luggage for people, so, they company is not making money so they, this his his top, one of the


err his top err boss lah that mean is the son of the owner of this, company, then tell him that he must find a way to, to cut cost, in order to continue to survive or else they have to lay off people


so he tell him that, he have only one weekend that weekend to solve the problem and that he must work overtime, that weekend he's supposed to take his daughter and wife, to their old house


to spend err summer vacation there with them before the the school holiday end, but then he could not do it so he stay behind then his wife and daughter go, to the countryside lah, so


I think in the story started that he somehow, this Pooh when he wake up he found that he cannot find all the other animal, Tigger and all are missing so


he was looking for them then he came across the tree which Christopher Robin, always come to the hundred acre wood so he went through that door and then he was right at, part where Christopher Robin sitting down there


so, Christopher Robin try and bring him back to the hundred acre wood, by going back to his own farm so that story started lah then he learn again, and the, the the innocent of children and


and the possibilities of of, know, what is possible again, because he forgot, like the one thing Pooh say I really like is that


nothing is impossible ah, and I am doing nothing everyday, so that is what


but, I think the story is good the story is good in the sense that it can be very, it's not sci-fi but it somehow it can teach you a lot of thing and to ask you to look at thing from a different angle


to look at thing from a different perspective


K lah so what's, I think the story is, if they can


twist it a little bit should still be a okay story but, seems a bit, like what is every story nowadays


!haiya! what to do, anyway let's see


what to do what to do ah still haven't finish yet, I getting tired already ah, okay what to do after this one you want to go Ikea or what


eh you know that there is a dog cafe next to the the the vet that I told you, you can bring your dog there, the cafe, I don't know


they say dog is welcome human are tolerated, but I think dog only, I think dog only


ya lor, but it take time lah, dog I think they can make friend like I say easily but, cats will take some time, (ppb) I'm still I don't know I'm still a bit reluctant about


the fostering they, not reluctant lah more like reserved (ppb) I don't know


from here you want to go back where, you are going to, you need to buy anything ah


she got exam this week she's not coming over right


okay ah, !hais! still not finish still not finish !haiya! what to do


oh so <mandarin>我讲话:wo jiang hua</mandarin> we we talk very long you know, I think we talk more than everybody else


I don't know, I don't know I hardly listen to music nowadays whatever I get is from both of you K


KTV every every Friday what, even err err


like like I said, different generation have their own own this thing lah, some people like the oldies some people like the sixties some people like the


rock some people like they what what do you call that, when are we supposed to finish


hardly read the book now also


I think maybe my words is not enough lah, uh I think you talk enough already me it's not enough ah, they still haven't cut because you talk more than me


two hours forty minutes already leh, ya lor, maybe two and a half hour because of the half hour introduction breaks everything blah blah blah


food also Sian [liao], what to do


I think once we reduce we refuse we will have less already lah, for now I think we buy whatever we need to buy then it's enough already what else you need to buy


I got an order something online, then I was thinking I once your garden finish, collapsible we will get the compost then we can do composting, that one


because if it can do break down of bones and all those scrap then I think maybe can worth it give it a try, I thought they say three weeks or one week I can't remember


anyway if that one is good then at least


ya so it's not a good thing lor so I think you need to dug a very deep hole and then, and then throw it that's why I was thinking of compost outside ah just for the


that's why we buy that that one that that thing lor that that that enzyme or that what what what thing, we can do the composting inside the house ah after that dry already then you can bury in the, soil then you can use it as a compost


so that's why I was thinking lah any food waste then we can use it, anyways I also buy online some, plus, metal straw so can start using this one then you don't have to buy your straw the that thing your straw


I'm trying to get the collapsible glass but they only have collapsible cups, which is a small one if you drink coffee, but if you drink like drinks


but you don't bring outside right when you go outside to drink you buy you you are taking all those disposable one


I don't know lah


anyways the other time you were talking about the, rescue thing guy what did he say he contact you, see never contact, no news


anyway like I say


same same also, !aiya! I think same same also lah, you want to join this group then they are somehow so picky and this and that, okay lah if you think you are in a special club then you want special people then fine lor


not inclusive


I don't know they gave sometime they give me the impression that okay although they say, they encourage people to do this then you want to join them, and contribute, then somehow, it's kind of like okay