ya cause you know some people they can be so insensitive like like they just they just talk a lot of bad things about other people and they don't realise that they're actually very mean eh, like they just hurt other people with their words and they don't even realise it and I find it oh so annoying like come on guys please like use your brain and you know like


where's your conscience man like go and find your own conscience and know that you're in the wrong , ya I know it sounds weird , ya that's my three wishes


no no I'm not so nice I'm actually a very bad person


!aww! J , I know I'm really very savage ah


no I'm not no I'm not , but !wah! why do you think so highly of me I feel very flattered


!aww! J I know I crying now , no I won't cry , ya yes


no oh my gosh no no mentioning of people's, no !eww! oh my gosh that's weird we're not together we're not together once again emphasise that we're not together


okay actually honestly I don't, I don't know if I told you before but I don't consider anyone as my best friend ah, I find it like a best friend is very hard to come by, so like even even for you and like Qian-Tong right that I'm like I look like I'm very close to you all


oh as in I am quite close to you all lah but I don't consider you all as my best friends but instead I consider you all as my like close friends like good friends like true friends, cause I feel that a best friend right is really those like that like


ya I I find that, for now I haven't really met a best friend am I asking for too much yes, ya I I think you get it right


!aww! J it means a lot, I think we have do we have to wait for the person to come


oh no oh no but uh ya we should end this but how do we call the oh ya the person is, okay, okay bye J see ya, bye bye okay thank thank you can leave the card


ah hello (ppb), hello uh ya can you hear me, hello


oh okay nice to meet you (ppb) yeah, ya we need to do the picture first ya correct


ya, so, uh what do you have in your top left of the picture


okay


yup same mine also ya, oh the window ledge is like the , like the normal window ledge in our house lah the


okay, yup same (ppb), and there's a, ya the right of it is uh


(ppb) apple or cherry ya, apple , the the fruit beside the pear, oh okay, ya, there's one difference ya (ppb) oh mine has two fruit


~s ya two fruits


ah ya exactly the same the pear ya, ya


then on the door on the door there do you have the like is there some like uh notice or advertorial ya, same ya mine also


yup exactly the same , uh ya it's a sleeping cat sleeping cat ya


drawing eh ya pink colour board lah so called noticeboard or whatsoever ya, the mat


oh ya ya ya have, I saw, , oh oh mine is a peas


ya so it's uh different ya P P E A S peas, mine only has peas, ya, and in front of the shop right there's this uh


noticeboard or something it states pea shoots, half price it is in light green colour ya, different oh okay


oh okay that's great (ppb), (ppb) ya, it's different words, okay ya I think somewhere in the middle okay bottom middle ah there's this


(ppb) like a, checkered flag or something I'm not sure how to describe lah but it states fun day, something like checkered flag lah but is ya it is white lah actually it's white ya


correct because I don't know how to how to describe the term lah ya, flag no banner or ya something like that it states, fun day, ya, ya correct


ya so ya that one we had the same lah, then on top of it there's some guy an old guy wearing a red, a red long sleeve shirt red and white stripes and uh blue jeans


like he's like drawing something lah I assume he's an artist or something ya, ya red hair as well, (ppb) he's sitting on a stool ya


mine is also ya nothing it's just blank paper, ah yes correct two sheeps


I think in front of the person in front of the old guy drawing there are some like, pieces of white drawing papers lah (ppb) so I'm not sure if you if your picture, has the


like one of the papers is like being blown over like that, then the rest are stacked, okay mine have


(ppb) it's just right in front of the, the drawing block lah uh in front of the old guy drawing the ya, correct


ya correct, and then close to the top right there is a tractor


a green yellow, tractor ya on top is yellow lah but the body it's, green in colour, and right, behind the tractor there are there are fences


yellow ya yellow fences, (ppb) then on the fences there's this like , description it states nature trail


then ya, uh ya have exactly


(ppb) I think uh at the bottom right of the words nature trail right there's this yellow, yellow structure drawing lah, ya, does yours have that ya


bee and the, same, bee and one other, insect lah, oh, ya the bottom right, of the, oh I have something ya some like yellow building structure all this


ya some it's just a small drawing ah ya, ya so you can highlight, ya so you can circle it as well (ppb)


then at the bottom right of the picture there's this, guy, blonde guy or caucasian guy I assume, ya then he's like, screaming anna sue where are you


ya anna comma sue, ya, so ya that's another difference, and the blonde the caucasian guy is wearing a light blue shirt


a red, a red short pants and, a blue coloured shoes, ya, okay, oh then behind this guy right there's this there's a lady


she's like pointing to the ducks, ya, her finger is pointing at the direction of the ducks ya, and she's wearing a, magenta yellow stripe dress


ya, and a grey shoe, ya, so no differences right for this, so far, no no quotes no description or whatsoever


oh nice so I will highlight that as a


ya correct the direction of the duck, ya it's not on mine, how many ducks do you see in total


same three ducks one is white two is uh grey and a normal ya grey ya standard, same, two greys are like walking towards some direction


ya, looking at them like it seems that the duck is kind of sad or something (ppb) ya, oh yes of course ah I did


ya, ah yes she has an orange hair and a fair skin ah her skin colour is fair, ponytails


ya, and I think inside the bush there's a, there are like some flowers or roses ah red that's, they're red that's red in colour


oh okay you can highlight that as well, so okay now we move on


oh wait hold uh I think, at the top corner, of the picture towards uh right right top corner I think there are two clouds, does yours have a clouds ya yeah ya, okay


oh ya same same yeah, how many hills are there, mine three mine it's oh yours three ah, mine is like three hills and one it's like not so, one hill is shallow ah ya


okay, oh so ya lah same lor (ppb), then uh , ya sorry, ya then uh at the bottom left


okay near the bottom left of the picture lah somewhere in between the middle and the, ya bottom there are three bowling pins and one, I think one, ball that looks like a golf ball or something lah it's uh ya seems like a golf ball


beside the banner fun day, at the left side, uh no no not left side of the banner beside the banner fun day on the left hand


side yeah, do you see any bowling pins there, oh no bowling pins at all, or any ball okay then that that's


oh mine don't have, mine is white colour ball and bowling pins, ya


then for for mine one of the pin is lying down lah ya then the two of them are stationary one one of the pin is being knock knocked down, okay


yup, white ball and some other things right, oh it's just a plain pink colour board is it or it has words on it


oh okay mine totally don't have it at all ya, okay we move on


no nothing at all, oh then uh near the bottom left of the picture bottom left corner


there are two adults, cheering like, cheering for their kids I assume, (ppb) ya, so on, the guy is wearing a blue light blue long sleeve shirt


with a green hat, ya he's, ya he is like doing some stretches, ya (ppb), (ppb) and he's wearing a, greyish


jeans, somewhere in between magenta and grey lah the colour, eh wait sorry short pants short pants, ya it's short pants sorry


wait ah hold on ah, uh wait ah give me a moment ah, hello, yup we can continue ya, so uh ya short pants and a green


shoes, ya green shoes, then the person beside him is, she's wearing a green dress, a light green light green dress, ya


then the lady beside him she's wearing ya light green dress and she's a bit tan, then she is shouting go go, yeah she's wearing a


light red or orange colour shoes or slipper, ya it's not covered shoes lah, ya ya, so ya no no difference, don't have any difference right


okay, then ya as I was saying ya they were cheering for the kids, uh one of the one of the kid uh which is a male he's wearing a light, eh a blue long sleeve shirt


a green coloured pants, ya


oh mine is the other oh ya mine, the guy is wearing a long green pants then the other kid ya she's covered with sacks lah uh sack ya, ya


what were their what were their expressions like, okay


ah ya correct, yellow, ya and with a pink colour long sleeve, ah yes yes correct


you mean the golf ball the ball that shapes like a golf ball or something, ya same


then in front of those two kids is there like a, finishing, line or finishing band or something I don't know what's that item that I don't know what's that equipment called


one two black colour pole, oh ya same lor (ppb), oh yes, mine is also like that


yeah okay, is it wait let me check one two three four, oh ya we missing a few more ah


ya the tractor, yes ya , he is facing towards the window lah ya


oh ya I think behind the tractor there's this yellow colour, yellow colour thing uh ya , what's that object called ah


ya rakes ya yours also right, (ppb) okay, yellow, oh poles ah wait ah


one two three four five poles, then the colour of the first one which is not so clear I think it looks more like black look it looks black in colour compared to yellow, the first one on the ya


oh we can go to the two sheeps, are they eating anything or (ppb), mine is one of them is eating grass


yeah, or we can uh revisit the cat also


is your cat like, sleeping or anything, is is the cat's eyes are they closed, ya same okay no different, ya same


ya wait ah let me, see, where are the potential differences, window, eh wait you say the window is cross is it like a X


uh X pattern oh ya same, plus ya correct same


ya farm shop, oh what colour is the are the wordings for the farm shop mine is red, okay, ya , yup


yes it's just one blue ball at the second row, of the board, second row second column


ah yes, eh give me a moment ah we can go back to the sheep again


so uh, like I mentioned the other sheep is eating grass then, at the back of the sheep right there's some, I mean for mine for my picture at the back of the sheep, uh one of the sheep has some lump on it


like something popping up, at the tail near the, ya it's like I thought ya I think it's a tail right, it looks like some lump or something


yours also have right, tall, all in caps


ya same, ya same


okay, yeah it's, it seems a bit spiky, but not very spiky that kind ah ya


how many more differences are we like lacking, one right just one or, (oo) okay


oh wait there's a butterfly where is it (ppb)


oh maybe we can go back to the farm shop at the door there's some like, notice, ya, what are the details inside, same okay


four lines, ya the last line is very short lah ya, a flag okay, but mine is like a broken flag ah like the lines didn't join properly ya


do you see a dot there below the flag, okay oh I see, ya, two clouds


okay maybe near the banner fun day ah, do you see any like black colour like, dots or markings, ya


uh bowling pins ah, in between the two adults and, fun day banner, it's in the middle, bottom left


bottom left bottom left middle, so the two adults right they were at the most bottom left of the picture, then the bowling pins are like beside the two adults and also the banner


ya, beside the bowling pin, yeah the white colour ball is beside the bowling pins, yup


ya, yes correct, ya correct, eh I thought we highlighted that earlier already the bowling pins


yup, yes that's right that's right, yes


yup, yes correct like a golf ball like that, it's shapes like a golf ball it seems like a golf ball or you can say I assume it's a golf ball


yes (ppb), above the white wall ah right above is it or something, nothing


that's cool, oh I think we highlighted that also right , I think we did talk about that also mine has nothing


oh okay, okay ya


oh okay okay ya I know where already, okay I get it ya, one of them is lying down


ya two of them yes, (ppb) yup two to three o clock lah ya around there


yup, ya, okay, so we move on, or do you, are there twelve differences already I lost count already


okay, wait ah give me a moment


yup twelve as well, alright that's great, alright, now we move, determine what sorry


yup, eh wait I think we need to talk about the free topic first right or job interview first because


just now the staff told me it's like free topic first or ya, I mean that's what she said


did she brief you anything, oh, okay ya so, K now we going to talk about


perhaps like education like, what do you think of the education in singapore ya, ya the topic prompt


with reference to the topic prompts, eh wait ah give me a moment sorry let me just


or is it we talk based according to the scenarios, yours have scenario one two three and four right, okay


okay okay


ah hello, uh what what did the staff say, oh one hour for it lah, is it related to the I think it's related to the scenarios right or it's a different


oh okay so, should we proceed with the free topic or the scenario based, which one would you like to do


I think we do the free topic one, , okay, ah ya yes, I think just now we were talking about the what educations educational system in


singapore right, yes


uh ya same exams, I think I think the topic prompts exactly the same lah


oh just the education system in singapore lah like how do you feel do you think that it's effective, ya


okay, okay


ya they only test you on the academic knowledge all this, yeah


okay


ah yes correct like usually kids, usually kids around their age they are like, kind of lost as well lah


normal academic uh there are like a few streams lah normal academic express normal technical, special stream you mean, I think so


okay, then do you feel like uh tuition or enrichment classes are necessary like just because, their child, uh their grades were like pretty low they're not doing well in their studies so


(ppb) parents decided to enroll, uh their their child for tuition lah so, like what do you think of it like do you feel it's, really effective for the child to score good grades, or do you have like


other thoughts about it


but I feel that but I feel that some students and uh parents, they also have a thinking that tuition may be a waste of time because, I mean it takes up a lot of their


free time as well lah like, because in school they already have to study then (ppb) after school right they have tuition, as in they literally do not have time to do other things, that's what some parents


felt about it lah


yes exactly ya


ah they just I mean in short they just want to make, the students learning enjoyable fulfiling, (ppb) and also, beneficial for them


okay then for uh now we talk about, poly or even university like courses lah so I believe at the end of, the year two or year three ah or even final year they will have some sort of internship or industrial attachment


uh not all uni has that lah only some, reputable ones especially those local uni, (ppb) so do you feel that internship helps the student to prepare in the workforce


in future (ppb), oh ya (ppb) so sorry (ppb)


okay uh as for the education system in singapore I feel that it's, uh I feel that, some things need to be changed ah because we, focus too much on theory stuff


we lack practicality, like there's not much practical learning, uh because I've read online, (ppb) the there are other countries in europe lah (ppb) uh they have this


uh project based learning so everything is according to uh assignments and projects, (ppb) they do not have like any test or examination, (ppb) so which I feel that it's like pretty


pretty good and unique ah (ppb) so students won't have to worry about the exam stresses so on and so forth (ppb), (ppb) so they can have lots of fun in learning lah through, (ppb) like through practical sessions and stuff like that


do you agree


because I feel really singapore they too emphasise on, (ppb) like getting and knowing the theories right while neglecting, (ppb) maybe team group work or presentation or team interaction base of learning lah


I mean it's okay lah but I feel that it can be


further improvised ya, to be exact (ppb)


as in they still can continue their theory based learning lah but they can maybe incorporate more, more hands on activities in short lah, during lessons lectures or even


tutorials


okay


drag and drop coding, oh ya websites like wix right like


that one is a drag and drop website builder, ya, ya correct


agree agree , alright, I think we can move on to the other part I mean , the other question like the regarding the internship internship


I mean in their uni and the poly course


okay, yup


you get to work with different people and, see different types of character as well


actually they are the same lah internship industrial attachment, ya they all they all like the same one, ya, but some of my friends feel that


cause some of my friends they told me that uh some schools their internship program is like six months eight months which is really too long, too long for them


because typically right internship is around three months only, I mean that's their standard lah


oh okay


ah ya yes correct usually like internship, the some companies may get the students to like come up with some work or presentation lah or


like some mini project ah something like that (ppb)


but overall I feel internship is uh ya lah a very good initiative, because, not only it preps them, on how to prepare in the workforce


in the event they they step into the working environment it also, (ppb) uh like allows them to be more, familiarised with the work environment to make sure that they are, more or less comfortable working with the people working around them lah


it's more of a real life experience it prepares them beforehand ah before they enter into the workforce, so it's definitely beneficial


okay so, I think we can move sorry, ya why you what you want to, talk about


ah ya same same as, same as my uh poly course like more hands on, more practical learning, yes


so now we move on, worries


ah ya that's the like, (ppb) the standard because like most parents they worry that, their child will not do well in their studies and, I mean not just in their studies ah in their CCA as well


ya so, I mean to alleviate their worries their child, I mean they have to put in more effort and, like if they don't know they should ask questions and also like


if they require extra help they can stay back after lessons, uh with the teachers and the teachers can just like guide them along, so students, they have to take initiative lah in their studies


like if they want to do well they have to put in more effort, if they refuse to do that, I mean it would be very difficult lah, and parents, ya will worry even more ah, if their child is underperforming


(ppb) I feel that , for CCAs


no matter if you are in primary school secondary school poly JC or even uni, I feel that, if you can cope with your studies


you should go for you should join at least a CCA lah so that, because joining a CCA is, not really a even though it's not really a requirement but, it helps you to grow, quite a bit lah personally as in for holistic development ah (ppb) because


you get to mix around with different people different friends you get to know their interest, (ppb) their culture their behaviour so, I mean all this do help lah, ya, I mean that's what I feel lah (ppb)


for the CCA portion I mean if students want to go (ppb) want to join (ppb) a CCA, (ppb) they are they can join but provided, they have to make sure that they can cope, with their studies exams


(ppb) and stuff like that, if they can't even cope I think , I think they may want to think twice about joining a CCA lah, because studies is still their top priority


so what do you feel about it


ya lor ya ya they ya I think some CCAs they, I think they organise like some not say overseas, held locally like maybe once every few months


in other words ya time management is very important uh


agree (ppb), do you like to add on anything on the education part


I guess we can move on to, jobs or even career, I think that's the topic that most people, like would be concerned would be a lot concerned about (ppb)


oh uh after I finish my uh army, which is last year lah may twenty seventeen


so I went to work in a bank, uh I work as uh, a backend administrator, so what we do is we, help to validate contracts, making sure that the details are


correct and accurate lah there are no discrepancies, it tallies with the, excel spreadsheet lah, ya because we have one uh master sheet lah (ppb), so which contains all the personal info


of clients and stuff lah, highly confidential lah so I won't will not elaborate on that, then


it's pretty mundane and it, uh especially during the peak period lah it's quite stressful, because there would be a lot of I mean there were a lot of contracts lah during the peak periods then we have to process it within a certain timeframe


ya mundane in the sense that, every single day, you're practically like doing the same routine routinous stuff lah, uh like checking checking of documents


(ppb) processing the details and information, (ppb) so that part makes it, uh a bit boring and mundane , ya, but overall it was a good experience (ppb), so uh I have made a number of friends and


ya forge a few meaningful friendships ah, with my colleagues, so that's the real good thing about ya working ah


you mean for now, for now, ya I do, looking for some, I mean I hope to find some, part time or freelance role lah even though I'm now doing freelance


photography and also content writing but, I just want to, do more lor like earn more side income, because those twos they don't really pay


that much lah it's just really a small side income, it's not even it's not really a side income, ya but it's just a small one


oh !wow! that's a, basically I will look, for, somewhere, as in , I will venture into business or finance


industry, ya somewhere like business related, I'm looking towards more middle office, middle and front office lah in a financial institution (ppb)


so that's one of my main options (ppb) other options I can think about is, maybe I can, do those like basic IT roles lah, ya


that's like a alternative backup lah, as in I roughly know what I want, but the thing it's


like if you ask me what I really want right, I don't know but I roughly know what I want, ya, roughly only that's the that's the thing , because if you if you really know what you want right


you will like just aim for it already, you won't have any hesitation or any other consideration, I mean that's what I feel ah, which makes your life


more smooth ah, because you already know what you want and you don't have to worry about other things, like you will work very hard to achieve your aim your target, and your goal


and as for you like do you have any like, career goals aspirations


I mean before that have you like uh did any like part time or any freelance job, or full time lah whatever whatever ya full time part time freelance ad hoc


oh apart from that nothing else lah nothing much ah, cause I thought you did part time before ah


ya which is why I asked ah , oh very long ago, as a, what did you work as that that time


oh that's nice, premier taxi, is it like when customer complain you have to like


manage and handle the complaints of the customer, of the passengers I mean or ya or even the taxi driver


okay does it pay I mean, uh does the job pay you well, I mean for that part for that, it's on per hour basis right I assume


oh I see I see, so as for your career, ya currently you going to be an engineer so , like would you have any plans to change, your line of field


like, so you gonna stick to engineering, for a long time, cause I thought you'll look you'll explore other like


industries or other line of field, in case, in case this engineering role doesn't work out for you lah


but depends on situations right, okay, cause I heard from my friends that uh, engineering roles they they are being paid quite well


they are being paid, I mean as for you lah I mean I mean for you and a few of my other friends, ya they are being paid well, ya


yup indeed


okay, oh ya one ah ya sorry


I see I see, think it's somewhat high


yup, yes, uh ya I do have a few, uh that one I didn't ask them


I didn't ask them about it


cause recently my friend recently my friend, (ppb) he started working as a quality assurance engineer, so he work since, he just started working since last month


then he told me that, his role is really not easy lah very stressful, need to know a lot of stuff, and some of the processes are really complicated


not easy to understand at all lah so (ppb), like even after like four five weeks, he is still struggling a bit lah, there's a steep learning curve


especially in engineering, I mean I I think not just engineering lah like other industry, they also have a very steep learning curve lah


for new employees, oh ya perhaps (ppb)


well the normal doctors lawyers


okay


ya that's the harsh reality


okay uh now let's talk about the one important factor in any career, okay, job security, K there are a lot of topics discussions and debates on job security


so, as you know in our context singapore has, (ppb) one of the highest, unemployment rate, ya we actually do lah, as in like over the years it has slowed down but still one of the


highest, (ppb) and there has, there have also been talks that, technology might replace some of the roles, in like possibly in the next five ten years lah


especially in the hospitality line in the clinic settings, they gonna make, like they gonna make, make it more automated lah the services and stuff, so like


do you believe like in job security in today's like context in singapore, okay


because for now I feel that it's a concern ah because (ppb), (ppb) you know those, you been to polyclinics before right, uh so there are some polyclinics, you know the usually when you go in you'll see a receptionist or there's a reception


ya receptionist area lah (ppb), so, so now right today right when you go to a polyclinic you'll be surprised because, there is no receptionist anymore so everything is


you doing it by yourself like registration, and also ya you just get a number ya, you won't see any staff at the front counter, and even in supermarkets right


I mean for some supermarkets, because back in the days usually we'll just, like buy our stuff and we just give our money to the cashier and, things like that lah the normal transaction (ppb)


so right now, for the payment wise we have to do it ourselves, like we have to, ah ya lah but I mean my point are like more stuff are being replaced by such automation and technology lah


okay, what you say is true lah, but you will see like lesser staff lor, like compare to last time there are a lot of cashiers a lot of counters and registers


then right now there are only like a few two or three staff helping to to facilitate the the the transaction and stuff


even those normal cash registers they also have staff to do it what like, okay lah not say engineer lah like just staff to help, (ppb) uh fix the machine I mean the cash register in case anything goes wrong


so to me ya lah jobs security, is a definite concern, but what I would suggest is


like maybe they can, okay not maybe they must have some side income, to supplement their main income, because you never know when, will you get retrenched or fired due to the economy


ya, turnover rates are high, even even during economic recession, ya of course their the turnover rate is high, and also normal circumstances, the turnover rate is also high so


I mean it's quite a concern lah, which is why it's good to do something, (ppb) that provides you a side income lah it can be freelancing, or it can be investing


or like, having, or even coding lah coding or programming like you help people to, program a website or an app, but that one you must find and build clients lah you need to have a client base


yup so, job security wise, the future is not looking good but, in order to counteract that


we must have a side income we must have other alternatives


you agree as well right, because most people most of my friends, they only like they only have their full time job lah so (ppb) they work every monday to friday, nine to five nine to six (ppb)


(ppb) then after that go back doing their own things going out or even party with friends, they just rely on one main revenue stream lor one main income stream in other words, ya so


I mean if, I were them I would find other alternative channels lah, to get more income, and if possible I would want to start my own company


if I know what I want to (ppb) uh want to do lah like what services to offer, because we have a lot of ideas, but what stops us is, whether or not the ideas are feasible and


also whether is it are they profitable or not lah, ya because there are a lot of people, doing the same thing mah, I mean what you have thought about other people have done it, so I mean (ppb)


I mean that's one thing that really can, piss you off lah, (ppb) like okay you just thought a great idea then you realise oh other people is doing it already not just in singapore (ppb) in other countries as well


ya so and you also need to have take a lot of risk ah, ya if you want, I mean not just starting your own company (ppb), (ppb) if you are doing freelancing


or even trading ya, you must take you must be prepared lor, you must be a risk taker in short, do you consider yourself as a risk taker


most of my friends they are like pretty, cautious ah


I ask them to do, like trading then they say, they don't have capital and they scared that they might incur a great loss, they may incur losses lah ya


yes, yup


agree agree


okay agree agree, actually to conclude ah like one, last thing I realise about jobs or career ah is that, like, okay many people know roughly what they want to work as like after they graduate lah they roughly have an idea of


(ppb) like what role and I mean roughly have an idea of the role and position that they will like to take up, but the thing is right, whenever they apply for a role (ppb) it's either they, don't get in or


they did get shortlisted for the interview ah but in the end they didn't land the role, so it's like ya it's pretty common but at the same time it's like very frustrating because, so many people are looking for a job


and most jobs require people with like at least some experience, but as a fresh grad you don't have much experience what, it's like you need a job for experience, but the job requires you to have an experience


like you get what I mean right, yup so , I feel that something must be done to like, resolve this issue like because there are really a lot of job seekers and


job openings are, not that much, ya depending on industry also lah ya but generally is not a lot ah the openings are not a lot


they do have, but maybe one of the ways is like, because usually when you apply for job then you need to submit resume


so I mean resume is, like the so called the passport lah, to get into a role you have to make your resume look, uh look great and look presentable and, your resume has to make sure


I mean you have to make sure your resume captures the attention of, the interviewer lah, ya, if if, you fail to do that then, you won't even get shortlisted for interview ah ya I mean I feel that's one of the ways lor


to allow yourself to stand a chance, ya then during interview you just have to answer, like whatever the hiring manager asks, like just do your best, be confident and


also try to convince them why they want to hire you also lah that will be a bonus point (ppb) bonus plus point, uh do you want to add on in, do you have anything else that you would like to add on or something


okay, (hmm) we can move to food I guess, hello


ya to me food is, uh I don't have, (ppb) high expectations lah on like what I want to eat as long as the food is nice, and filling then, everything is good


ya I don't I don't fancy like oh those like five star restaurants they have this, don't know don't know don't know what steak ah (ppb), (ppb) (ppc) and also like those fanciful names, of the dishes


ah I'm not that kind lah as long as, the food is good and simple, and it's filling, that's all matters, sorry


ah yes, (ppb) but having said that right of course uh I've, (ppb) my favourite food lah I have a favourite food


which is ya the standard chicken rice, (ppb) roasted chicken to be exact, eh roasted chicken breast ya roasted chicken breast


boneless or, (oo) I see I see


oh you are reading the last the second last pointer is it, for Tampines two zero one I think


uh it'll be the duck rice, duck rice and also the chicken rice at the triangular food court, but my mum, and I feel that it's not very nice lah but


somehow ah, (ppb) somehow I realise ah, (ppb) when the food is not so nice ah, it can attract long queue also eh, it's like as if the food is really really fantastic really spectacular


but in reality it's not nice, I mean why is this why is this phenomenon happening ah like, it feels funny and weird, it's like since the food is not nice like, (ppb) why do people still want to bother go and


go and eat it despite it's being plain (ppb), (ppb) or no great taste of the food or chicken, convenience (ppb)


I mean, I mean other hawker centres nearby they have chicken rice also what


ya true lah but I'm saying in general mah, yeah


no worries take your time


then some can argue that right, those food stores that have long queue right, doesn't mean that the food is nice, it's because the staff or the chef that, is preparing for the food is very slow


the services are slow, which resulted in those long queues, that you see, that could be uh one of the reasons, or one of the key reasons


so what you what you see is not what it really is lah, (ppb) ya that's the quote that I have to remind myself whenever I'm, seeing long queues in a particular store


uh ya I know, I think we just continue there are a few more only mah, I mean vehicle shopping all the leisure stuff lah you can group together also, (ppb) so


do you have any uh driving license yet no right, !huh! you have a license, class C ah eh class three ah, oh when when when did you took it I don't even know


oh how was it like the practical I mean the practical sessions, how many attempts


manual or auto, oh manual is not easy man, the clutch ah


the clutch is the irritating thing lah


does your parents had a car have a car or, because I feel that right if your parents don't have a car I mean it's not so worth taking a license, because you take a license then you just keep it for your own use then you don't really drive


you don't really apply in real life, I mean it's just it's like for show only lah like, oh I got this driving license, my work doesn't require me to drive so I mean I just take the license only


I mean I feel that it's, ya it lasts you for an entire lifetime but you don't use it like you don't use it frequently eh


I mean you don't really use it or ya you don't use it I mean , I mean it's a bit pointless leh don't you think so, like you learn you apply for something, like you get a certificate then after that you don't even use or apply it


so it's it's like I mean what's the point right , true lah but


the bottom line is you don't use it at all mah, unless you use it sometimes lah like your work requires you to drive, ah true lah that is when you go overseas lah


ya but, actually depends on individuals lor like some people they go overseas they don't even want to drive they just want to relax and have a holiday, you know what I mean right


unless you have plan to rent unless you have plans to rent a car do you have any, how much did you pay for the entire thing ah


oh !huh! five hundred only, no school one is like four K five K ah, I think so ah overall ah I think okay not four K uh one K one K plus


I mean for the whole thing, (oo) I see I see


so now uh okay lah we move on to leisure activities lah so, (ppb) during your free time, uh what are your like leisure activities do you shop do you play sports


uh apart from playing games I mean ya those outdoor activities, maybe sports also


oh okay, for me sometimes window shop sometimes, I mean I play sports like every almost every week, (ppb) uh not just tennis lah a few other sports also lah, (ppb) I uh once in a while I ice skate


I play table tennis ya all this all this kind of sports, ya but last time I used to do more lah, (ppb) ya but it's just that, over the years I decided to focus on a few ah, and be good at it (ppb)


maybe for you you can consider tennis also mah, like uh in the next I mean in the near future


then at home right do you do any like exercises, or dumbbell uh weights or whatsoever


oh how many hours do you play in in a day, (hmm) sorry, oh not those extreme kind lah like eleven ten hours a day


I mean ten hours, ya it's possible some people they play twenty four hours or non-stop one, so basically ten hours is like (ppb)


(ppb) okay they have breakfast at their desk, then lunch they also eat at their desk, they just keep, staring at the screen playing games lah maybe uh like for a few minutes they close their eye then they start playing again


like it's almost the whole day at their desk, ya that's how they can calculate ten hours, ya, then are you are you into like any books or music, no


do you have a favourite music, or genre, yes, eh I think you told me before previously you are into, violin or piano


like last time primary school, violin is it, you still know how to play right violin


did you went for like any examinations, which grade was it, oh grade eight


I think that's not the highest right I heard from my friend the highest is what ABRSM or something, that one is for his piano, (ppb) also same thing ah, oh okay okay


cool, do you want to add on or we move on to the scenario scenario based, questions, okay


so we can conclude the free topic yeah, alright, eh we have to do all scenarios or we can choose, I think we have to do all right


ya we do all, (ppb) oh how much time we I think we still have quite a bit of time left leh cause it's two two two and half hours


eh how do you tell how many minutes you left, is there a indication or something, because I only see the timer, I didn't say how much it didn't state how much time I have left


uh one hour forty minutes (ppb) something something, no two to two and a half hours that's what they state


oh okay okay I get what you mean, alright let's start the job interview, I think, (ppb) uh you want to be which one I can be either


I be the interviewer, (ppb) okay so, alright right now tell me more about yourself, like what are your strengths and weaknesses ya


okay


okay, okay tell me what makes you so special from the rest because like anybody can say that, , anybody can say that they are a good team player, I can interact well with people I am meticulous or stuff like that


so tell me a bit like what differentiates you from the rest of your peers and other people, it's a tough one right


because this is one of like the this is one of like the killer question that determines whether, or not the employer wants to hire a person ya I think that's one of the key questions


okay , that seems like, an okay answer lah , ya, because I believe some people will also say the same thing ah , ya


but it's okay lah at least


true lah that


okay, alright , so tell me where do you see yourself, like in the next, five years


I mean not just the place you work in lah also, about your character like do you hope to see a change in your personality or , like behaviour character like how you interact with people and stuff, so it's not just about work environment lah


ya just to clarify


okay (ppb), advance in your study


okay, so err , at times when you encounter stressful situations right, like what would you do like how would you react, like for example something went wrong in work


like the machine is not working, or your colleagues, are saying things, to your supervisor that is not true, so it's uh like a kind of sabotage lah so how would you have reacted


okay I see, okay do you have any further questions, for for this company lah I'm I call it as J L company


okay, so we can move on to scenario two, which is a surprise party


oh it's something like a, I mean it can be anything lah like a birthday party, christmas party or, maybe thanksgiving party I don't know if they do it do that in singapore


they do ah, oh , it's just not being practiced, it ya, so, I mean what party would you, like would you come up for uh maybe close friend or family member like what ideas do you have in mind


location budget theme


ya eh, ah yes, actually generally I feel right, generally I feel uh, a a birthday or I mean a party right should be ya should be held on a weekends lah because weekdays night


I mean most people already quite tired after working so, I don't think they would have the energy or mood to, to celebrate


at a person's condo, (ppb) you know the condo they have uh what is that called ah , some have BBQ pit lah some have, maybe the function room or something


as low as possible lah I mean that's what most people will like, will do lah they will try to keep


they they can also they can also make it potluck what, like everyone bring their own stuff, everyone set their own budget


or the other half if they want lah if they want to, parents, (ppb) parents


relatives, gift can make it simple lah


eh wait just now just now you mention what clothes ah clothes for gifts ah, I feel that it's not a very good idea because right, because , even though you know your friend's build and size ah


(ppb) but when you buy, uh clothes from online or even certain stores, the sizes right are inconsistent they don't have uh, like fixed size fitting because like (ppb)


if you buy clothes from one store, their size M right is different from the other store's sizing, the fitting is different lah in other words so, like what you buy, I'm worried that it might not fit him or her


ya that's a big concern, that's why I would never buy clothes or pants or Clothings to my friend, ya I would never buy that, because if your friends cannot wear then then how it's like wasted ah


like you may need to ask for refund, the process will be quite tedious ya lah so (ppb), (ppb) I don't think clothes would be a good option, for gifts I mean that's what I feel personally lah you may not agree but


(ppb) I'm saying what I really feel lah


uh uh ya a travel bag would be good , oh games it's the interesting one (ppc), board games


or we can go back to the old school days where they have Chaptehs you still remember the Chaptehs, ya or the monopoly ah the board game lah ya that one


quite standard, card games, ya, uno, and still got what else ah !aiya! there are a lot of them ah (ppb)


then we also need to delegate responsibility lah like who do what, when must it be completed uh, the administration part, so this one individual will decide on their own


to make it simple , ya, so I think we can move on to scenario three right, career advice


this one is it eh wait this one is not a role exchange right I mean we don't have (ppb), to set roles right for this or, oh okay


!wow! scenario three a bit difficult (ppb) okay (hmm) , oh I find one relevant point, cause you mention that you you're working as a engineer trainee as an engineer trainee so


(ppb) like what do you think are the skills gap right that you need to bridge, to make yourself like feel more, comfortable and also like a bit more competent lah in a, like ya with other colleagues


then what type of environment and working culture do you like, best work in


okay


okay, okay, that's a good point , yeah


any challenges, that you would like to, face in your work, or in other words what types of challenges do you want to face in your work


okay understood, okay we move on to the last scenario right making uh ya, so in this case I'll be the customer, then you'll be the


ya, so, uh ya hi , I would like to make a formal complaint because uh, my flight is originally scheduled


on uh, I mean last, I mean on uh, wait ah give me a moment (ppb) my flight is scheduled uh tonight, seven thirty PM, and the staff inform me that


the revised flight schedule has been postponed to, eleven PM and I'm very very unhappy with it, (ppb) so is there anything that you can help to, alleviate this issue ya


it's very frustrating you know it's like, uh we have already like decided, the flight time and we had all our itinerary planned, but yet such thing uh happened so


uh booking number is one zero zero eight three three three four four five ya, that's my ya that's the booking number, the ticket number


I mean uh why is it not safe I mean , even though there is a natural disaster but (ppb), (ppb) it doesn't mean that you guys will fly, past that area right, there's always an alternative route right


I mean it's ridiculous you know, because I'm sure all pilots will have alternative routes


yes it's hong kong yes


okay wait hold on hold on but, but why, why the delay has to be like, three to four hours, and why can't it just like one or two hours


okay, you mention that there is, some compensation, so what, just ten percent for this delay


oh you gotta be kidding me man , you should return the full amount, ya


I mean if you say that to other passengers they might even , I mean they would have reacted worse you know


I don't know what things that they do ya


so apart from ten percent what what other things, that you're willing to


three hour three to four hours later is a big difference man, you know, you know how it feels


you know we supposed to visit one place (ppb) in hong kong some kind of like market, but we have to change you know, just because of this flight delay it's so frustrating


oh that sounds later flight, okay, a later flight, how does it work then


any extra fees, okay (hmm), that sounds fair enough, but wait


what if other passengers they, ah they have something on the next day, so would you I mean it would be I mean you can't do the same thing right like you can't like reschedule their return flight to a later date, ya


you have to be consistent also yeah, ah same lah neither do I


but I tell you actually it's possible lah, cause I think, my dad and my dad's friend they uh request, ya


they requested before, ya


uh why ten AM


okay, one PM, after lunch, ya, so the ten percent how the ten percent how are you going to uh


I mean what will the process be like for the refund, uh to my bank account, how how long does it take then


what two weeks, what if (ppb) the money is not in my account, what if the money is not in my account who's gonna be responsible


I mean who, okay yes you say that but in the event it didn't happen it doesn't happen who is liable for it, because I don't want to bring this up to court ah ya I'm very particular in those things ya


would you want to check with your colleague would you want to check with your customer service your staff or your colleague, ya


okay, I'll take whatever you said ah, I mean whatever you said, I'll take it ah ya, so make sure that, the money is being refunded


ASAP as soon as possible ya, because a flight delay is definitely not a joke, okay, that's


all lah uh just want to make this complaint ya other than that, nothing much ya, you too have a good day ya


yeah, so, no cannot put down I don't no no no don't hang up


now, ya I think go out and ask first lah yup alright


hello, oh yeah


the others also they completed already is it


actually we can, free topic, actually we can ya get back to the scenario of free topic lah see whatever you want ah , yeah


oh he ask to get some water in my bag, give me a moment


hello


hey, (ppb) you ready


ya free topic now , see which one you want to elaborate on then we can just like go on and on


actually we did but just briefly because you mention that you don't like to shop or is it or you don't do window shopping


keyboard and a mouse, keyboard, do you have a laptop, so you mostly I can say that you're mostly shop


I mean you mostly shop for technology stuff lah technological stuff, uh for me same lah same as well and sometimes I will, shop for clothes, I think you shop for clothes also right every now and then sometimes


like every some because some people every chinese new year before that they will buy some new clothes


like it's a trend, (ppb) ya then some people every now and then ah , buy new clothes every few months they shop for new clothes new dresses, then their entire wardrobe right


is full of clothes, that can't even fit properly, because full already mah so, and apart from that I shop for sport equipment at times lah


if I want to buy balls tennis balls (ppb), ya and also rackets depends depending on, whether or not the racket is still in good condition ah ya


and, otherwise, uh grocery shopping once in a while lah but not often ah, very rare lah very rare (ppb)


do you do grocery shopping


oh so you managed to cook some stuff while you were in hostel is it with your


did you cook rice, minced meat ah minced meat how do you prepare minced meat ah, do you have to like marinate it or something


so you just put inside the wok ah or put inside the pot, pot or the wok ah how you you use which to cook oh, I see, (oo) pasta


how do you cook pasta it's in a , is it the same style as cooking uh instant noodle no right, almost the same style ah


ah ya do you do that for your pasta, nice it's good that you know how to cook also lah , because I, because I don't really cook and I think I don't really know how to cook


I'm just lazy to cook I also don't know lah I (ppb) ya because I don't cook, often, ya I don't cook at all lah actually , I mean most people don't really cook often lah


cause they have to work mah they have to like work, and then when they get back to their home it's already, like seven eight PM, no time for cooking


yeah, oh ya , do you watch like any movies, recently


suits, how do you spell it, I never heard I never heard before eh


lawyer okay, then so what genre do you like, like for movies ah


horror romantic (ppb), or fictional, crime, what about horror, do you like horror also


think there's one horror moving uh uh movie which is, is it conjuring, ah my lecturer like to talk about that for don't know what reason (ppb), the conjuring


you watched that before, oh okay


so (ppb), earlier you have mentioned that you like to uh watch, I mean you watch TV shows right so, like what kind of TV shows, documentary


or those like news, I mean what what kind ah, I mean what kind of TV shows


for the netflix uh netflix do you have to pay a subscription fees or something, oh that's nice


okay


okay, that's pretty cool, okay let me see ah


do you do any like, indoor activities, can be anything lah like


I think gaming is more towards, the gaming aspect, I mean it doesn't really count lah , okay I think one of the indoor activities is like playing pool like you know pool and snooker ah that can consider an indoor activity


okay, or rather or rather do you like do any like


activities with your friends family or relatives, like can be going out for walk or going out to some, heritage site or whatsoever lah just an outing lah so do you guys do that


same (ppb), it's just like on and off thing or once in a while lah, yeah


so what else would you like to uh talk about


(oo) indoor activities , indoor activities (ppb), I would say like sports table tennis ya, and sometimes pool lah play pool, (ppb) ya sometimes I play pool and


sometimes I've uh like I have mentioned I do ice skating, I have a lot of different hobbies ah photography, I also do like freelance content writing


and ya I do investing trading, (ppb) and also, surf I like to surf the net lah if that counts as a hobby, research on stuff


actually is all lah all of them (ppb), ya, ah hitting the ball when I'm serving the ball, all this are my like, I mean that part would be


quite interesting to me lah, ah ya hello ya so those are the parts lah, (ppb) ya so


hello, are you there, ya ya I can hear you're good, uh hi I'm george from room eight zero eight


uh hang on john we need to do the picture first, alright fantastic so maybe


let's start with the top left I guess, okay so top, alright I'll I'll start by describing it lah okay, it's an orange colour squarish house on top is a silver kind of


uh roof it says the words says farm shop in red, then just below it it's a window it's those kind of cross I don't know cross window and then, is the standard one ah


and then, yeah, and then right to the right of it there's a photo with this pear it's green


ya and then to the right of that, I'm sorry what where what apple or cherry


I do not have any fruit beside the pear, my one only has one fruit, alright fantastic we have to circle that it's uh


okay then , the pear okay so the pear is like mine my my picture is like it's it's it's a picture, then there's a pear drawn in it yours has, a pear and an apple, okay okay then that's uh that's a difference okay then okay so continuing on right from the picture right


it's just the door, okay the door is, yes there's a notice it's yellow


okay, then uh from the door I can see the bag a bag it's blue colour it's hanging there, okay I see a cat, lying down just right in front of the door, okay do you have a


right, okay so back to the blue bag, to the sort of a bit left upper left to the blue bag there's some pink colour, cupboard, ya, ya pink colour board lah okay, then the house


do you see the mat I guess, ya the the is there is is there like some light brown kind of mat or something, okay, okay then okay remember the okay so now instead of going right from the pear as in go back to the window on the left of the window I have this


photo of a carrot, three carrots, peas ah K, mine has peas and carrot, okay


cool okay so , now oh, ya mine is also in light green colour but my words are are different


it says young pea shooters eh young pea shoots available here, ya so it doesn't say anything about half price so I suppose that's, K maybe you want to continue, sorry


oh mine is not checkered mine is just a white colour, flag and, oh oh it's I think it's just a banner banner, ya it's a it's a white banner and the fun day I'm


fun day I'm back, okay then , okay


ya, wait, does he have a red hat, is his painting does his, ya he's sitting on a yellow colour stool does his painting have anything on it cause mine just shows a white paper


okay, okay, oh then do you do you have two sheeps right next to the guy


okay, I do not have that few okay wait so


I do not see a stack of paper nor any papers blowing, okay so he is is facing the tractor right


okay so in front is, and so is uh it's something like it can be said like it's just right above the sheep ah right above the two sheep


okay ya I don't have that so I'll just circle it


yes, yup yup yup correct


behind or not uh ya okay ya ya behind ya sorry, okay


ya ya, okay wait, does yours have a bee and uh I don't know some fly looking thing on it, the same ah, oh okay


yellow structure drawing, no mine is just a mine is just the, light blue light blue board, on, okay , ya ya ya that's on the left right


bottom right has nothing, oh really, okay then, ya I I cause uh I didn't see it, I don't I don't have that on the board ya


alright, okay, ya


anna sue, I only have, I only have sue where are you, so I think the, speech bubble is different as well


yes, ya ya ya ya, okay


okay on mine she is saying, so far don't have, does she say anything, oh in mine uh she says oh uh I saw you anna, okay so


ya okay so it's on, ya it's a, just sort of, beneath her arm you know she's pointing out in that direction right, ya so sort of to the left down of her arm there's this uh speech there's this speech that says uh I saw you anna


ya I think it's not on yours, uh I have three ducks in total one is white


ya, ya okay so wait but uh the two greys are infront, then the white is at the back okay, and then the white one is just looking at them and the body is just, ya okay


ya ya ya, okay uh just above the ducks do you see a bush, okay do you see a person's head poking out of the bush


okay, she got tie, the two what's it called ah, ya I guess so ya okay


my bush does not have any flowers or roses, okay


which top corner, okay, oh ya ya there is there is, yes, uh mine also have hills in the background, okay around the top left, okay, it's like three


ya and one some crumbly kind of, ya quite quite shallow as in I didn't count that in so


okay if you , no no no continue


okay, wait where are the three where are the three bowling pins


at the left side of the banner fun day ah, !huh!, okay


beside the banner fun day, no I do not see any bowling pins, ya, okay I only see the white colour ball, okay so above that white colour ball there's this pink colour


pink colour board, (ppb) oh okay okay I see it I see it I see it, ya okay I think that's our common difference


okay, no cause I think for mine right instead of having the bowling pins, and the stuff, I only have this, white ball and this uh pink colour uh board


(ppb) it's a pink colour board which has with words on it that says charity bring and buy sale, okay, okay okay ya I think that's ya


okay so now we move to, okay so the fun day banner right yours is just the banner is there anything like that says the start line or anything, at nothing at all right cause mine is just a banner


okay, yes yes, yes he is


oh wait he has a green hat, oh ya okay ya he has a green hat yup okay, okay


jeans, wait jeans or short pants, okay, okay shoes


hello yeah


okay wait the, the guy is on the extreme left right closest to the left okay, light green dress okay


yup same, okay, no it's not covered


no uh not in that regard I don't think so


yes, okay mine is not pants, mine they're covered in sacks, you know those kind of brown colour sack, or like you know those kind of sandbags the sack


okay okay so uh the guy is our common difference


okay what about the other guy, okay that guy okay that guy with the blue shirt, he is uh smiling, right, the other I can't tell ah the other guy, uh he seems to be like falling backwards and he's giving a very shocked expression


uh his hair is blonde I guess yellow ya (ppb) he's uh, ya has some staircase like design on it


okay uh I need to ask uh let's go back to the ball thing, do you have, ya cause my ball is just tiny it doesn't have any texture on it it's just a small ball


okay, okay that's okay, finish line


mine doesn't have anything it's just one black it's two black colour lines, ya, two black colour poles and then they have this two black colour lines stretched across


I think we are missing two more, we're missing two more


okay maybe we go back to the tractor first top right, do you have a guy in there is a stick figure


ya ya okay, green and okay, maybe how about the artist dude, rake, alright is the is


is the is the thing rakes up the soil or something right, ya, how about your fence, how many poles does it have yellow


ya okay mine's the same, oh as in, ya ya they're trying to show that like you know the thing fades away so I think that doesn't really


no mine is just standing there doing nothing, okay oh okay okay nice


very nice, okay


uh cat's eyes are closed it's sleeping it's a grey colour cat, yeah it's lying down yes, on your


window, my window is just the normal cross kind of you know, no it's a plus


it's just called a farm farm shop, mine is also red, okay on the you know the pink colour board


that is inside the shop, do you have some blue ball on it, ya it's just one small okay, yup, yup yup yup


K the door of the shop, do you have this diagonal from bottom left to top right, brown colour strip, okay


okay


!huh! one of the, oh ya ya it has a tail right, ya I think I think


ya ya, maybe the banner how is yours tall or is yours short the fun day banner, mine is also tall, all in caps yup


all in caps, maybe something to do with the duck, are your ducks doing anything my front two my front two ducks walking towards, the light blue shirt guy, on the bottom right side of the picture, right they just those are the those are the green and grey one and then at at behind them is the white colour one it's just looking at them


okay, the guy with the sack, maybe the two parents your other parent the woman in uh maybe the the woman in the green dress right her hair is it spiky


ya I guess so cause mine is like just, ya it's like they just draw the okay


ya one just one, butterfly, no no no as in I I was just looking at the nature trail uh


board, ya the nature trail board ya it's a


ya it's a a notice it's yellow in colour, okay yes uh okay at the top top border is a rectangular box half drawn, then on towards uh just below the border on the left is uh lines, ya four lines and then to the right of it


ya to the right of it is like a flag I guess I would call it a flag, ah ya lah okay lah


small details, yes yes I do, oh wait oh ya we mentioned the two clouds already right


ah ya it's just like in between it right, okay, where did you say your bowling pins were again


oh okay, right in the middle


wait a minute, and where's your white colour ball


okay so, K wait ah, ah okay I think that's one thing that we've missed out okay , this the this should be the final thing so just let me confirm, so you have the two adults the one wearing the light green dress is more towards the right right


then the bowling pins if I'm not wrong is just also to the right of her close enough right, okay and then to the right of that, ya ya no I I highlighted something else I'll I'll tell you why okay


so the woman in the, green colour dress, to the right of her there are bowling pins, okay, so those bowling bowling pins, are not in my picture to the right of her you circled that one already right


okay, and then to the right of that white colour ball, and to the right of the bowling pins is the white colour ball, right okay


yes, ya, okay fantastic so then that's the ball, then, to the right of that, is the banner


okay, I want to ask above the white ball, is there anything in your picture, ya, ya right above it, okay I have something there, right above it


I have the pink colour board, is a, ya so you should I think you should circle that empty area


cause my bowling the bowling pins and the board I thought they were at the same position but they are not, okay so the pink colour board is positioned like this okay


from the green colour young pea shoots board okay it's roughly, five O clock from there, from the grey colour cat in front of the door it's roughly six O clock down, six O clock


from fun day banner it's roughly nine, and then from the can, ya okay and then I just wanna confirm so your bowling pins, from


right, from, from the green colour dress woman, it is three O clock from her, okay from the, two to three O clock okay from the white colour ball it's nine


nine or ten, right okay ya so those are the two differences lah, I believe so I think we just move on by ourselves


two four two four six eight ten twelve oh on mine there's twelve, yours you got count twelve


okay lah great, okay now we need to, determine, now we need to know which uh role we are each going to play or something


it's the, job interview


free topic first, I forgot which one should come first okay free topic first then


wait a minute that's your free topic prompts, and student's education that kind that that action that section is it


ya, hang on hang on uh uh I'll go I'll go ask the people hang on


hello, okay you still there, okay so the free talk topic prompts we will take one hour for it


I don't think it's related to anything at all, uh it's separate, okay actually it's up uh it's up to us we can decide


sure, they essentially want this to take up uh majority of the time, ya okay


for my free okay so uh, let let's let's just jump into the free talk topic lah, for mine mine has a few prompts mine has uh student education what do you feel about the exams


mine has the poly and university courses what's difficult interesting and enjoyable what CCA is enjoyable, okay so maybe we just prompt from there lah okay so uh


do you like to start on what again, uh what are supposed maybe let's start from uh PSLE it's


oh both, well both good and bad in a sense I mean it will, for one it provides, what's that it provides the distinction


it provides it it does this, sort of a sorting, among the, children, you know to determine like, uh their capabilities in written exams lah


and uh but, then again you know some kids might pursue different, kinds of interests which uh, the PSLE might not necessary cover lah because it only


it only it only tests you on what what what what was it oh math science uh, language, ya ya, so I mean well it is not all encompassing I suppose it does serve a good job currently in


sorting out the, students early on ah, and, ya I mean that's on uh PSLE, uh and also !wow! you know a justification can be made ya like you know young kids really don't know what


I suppose they just haven't find out like maybe their own interests, what's uh actually good for them or like, you know


ya ya exactly, so then they would need to, ya just uh do it this way for now lor


right so after PSLE they'd get, determine whether you go , uh what what what is it called again uh which stream it is I think there's uh express


ya ya, I forgot what's the top one, oh is it special, I don't remember anything special really


okay well ya then from then on the the the students are like you know, just classified as such ah I mean for like, simplicity I guess, and then they learn sort of uh different things in uh


either in secondary or, eh do they go ITE ya either in, secondary or ITE respectively, so


oh I mean, currently in, in singapore, to be able to survive, you need to, get a degree, or rather you know have to be good at something maybe cooking and then you can cook in some hawker centre ah that's a that's a way to survive as well I mean


I suppose it's the fixed mindset that, sort of to do well you gotta have a degree


and then from then on comes the parents worries that you know they want their child to do well, and then when their child isn't doing well then they worry, essentially about their future and different things like that so uh I suppose tuition comes into play then


you know to guide the, students, oh not really guide the I ya it sort of guides the students , ya


and then well I suppose it exposes the students to different teachers at the same time as well, instead of, being stuck with their school teacher they can also depend on, their tuition teachers I mean


okay maybe it's not like this all the time but like, I know sometimes


I agree, but like I mean you know uh some parents might also think that like, I mean that is still okay, if their child is still doing well like being able to cope with the curriculum and different things like that then that is that is that's still fine you know I mean tuition might not necessarily


(ppb) might not be necessary because the child is doing fine, but then I suppose when the child is isn't doing performing, isn't performing well like isn't passing in school work then that'll be a cause of worry ah and then I suppose that's where uh


tuition comes about to, teach, to teach or rather help I I I mean I mean you know I mean there have been stories whereby tuition really do help the child like, from failing suddenly he's getting a B in math just because he's


even if the tuition is just pushing him to do more practices he is still doing more practices so, there's a form of, I don't know imposing more practices onto the kid, besides school time ah that's good


(ppb) and then you know some tuition teacher might also be able to inspire, the students to become more passionate about studying I am not too sure about that but you know there are some tuition teachers that


they just, ya ya they show they show they show, they show passion, ya they show passion I guess I mean not all, not all school teachers I mean for me personally the school teachers that I've had are not that


passionate, I mean sure they try, but it's just not all, ya


wait wait wait, before before you get there uh you haven't told me what you think about the education, in singapore lah, ah no no no I just I just I just thought that you know know maybe you could share and then uh ya understand


I mean you know practicals is definitely important, ya it it it uh, oh getting hands on experience I guess as a child will actually help, might be more interesting as well


definitely but, well I mean while it's good the current system is uh, working sort of fine right now, so I don't think they want to change it anytime soon, you know


okay I mean that's nice I mean ya, they try but, it's not easy to, inspire change, even the sports school


right, ya that would require, more part on that too


a lot ah a lot that would require a lot of uh work to be done to, you know prepare for the lessons and stuff, what, practical is nice, I mean there are like those kind of


drag and drop kind of coding, what is it called ah was it scratch I think it's called scratch you know like primary school, ya ya I think it's called scratch scratch scratch kind of uh coding it's uh


it's those kind of uh block base diagrams and then like sort of simple to use for, something like that you could say so it's like you know something to get like the kids interested in at the start


ya I mean that is all nice but then, ya I guess so that is that that should be nice I mean how it would be nice to get them introduce them at the beginning to like coding and stuff and then you can get them


started at an even younger age so that they become more proficient by the time they reach our age, ya ya and that that's that's that's that's that's pretty good I mean, as a starting point, it is nice ya


oh ya ya ya oh, okay ya so , for mine uh I went to uni, it was uh


for roughly four years roughly four years , I have to do internship during the term breaks, it was part of it was it was compulsory, so it's it's nice it's nice I guess you get to see uh how the industry works


you got to answer to supervisors you got meet like deadlines and you got to you know come out with results and different things like that (ppb), ya, ya you get to work with different people


ya ya ya exactly, what else about the internship, I mean yup it was, ya and the industrial one was


was a was a different experience ah, alright, ya and then


mine mine was roughly there also, I think was also that duration, okay, right right, ya, but I mean uh I I've heard from my own friends that uh


for their internship some of them uh actually saw through the whole project, the the the they will put into you know the whole, like from the beginning the planning stage to the designing to the production and then the entire project uh submission at the end


you know, ya they saw through the entire process and that took like, six months I think, I think it was six months, no I think no we only did three months, ya, ya but some


as in if you are really really driven the company is really really driven then they will drive you a lot and then within three months you can come up with a project like complete the project and deliver it to the, ya, so


ya, correct correct, ya it's some business uh deliverable to the, what's that ah, what do you call it ah, the the company that hired the other company to do the work for them lor


and then you gotta meet like deadlines and different things like that


ya ya exactly, ya


yeah, well I mean


uh I suppose in poly or university courses what's interesting is also all this, I mean for my university there's a lot more hands on, related project, ya, ya ya exactly I mean


that's where you get to learn a lot of the stuff lor, how about worries in education


ya I mean for me eh there was a lot of, worries you know you got you don't you don't want to fail you don't wanna get bad grades you need to submit the projects


right


ya, definitely, oh uh what about uh CCA


alright, ya definitely


CCA wise, it's okay, (ppb) should be fine I guess you get to see other students outside of your own class I guess ya, ya you interact with them to have fun, and chill sometimes you get overseas uh chances as well competition overseas and different things like that


and then for you know unfortunate as may you may be sometimes the competitions come really really close to the examination dates then, that's when you, have to sometimes have to let go of your CCA ah, and then


ya that's the issue with it lor, it's not easy, I suppose it also teaches uh the kids time management, uh you know next time round you gonna be as busy as this so live with it


nope, nope nope I don't have anything


ya I don't, no no I haven't started working yet so, what about you uh what did you what have you worked as


I mean ya of course, well you know as in how how is it how do you how do you how do you find the job


right right


are you uh currently looking at uh any other jobs you know in any field, oh in the future long in the future


ah I see I see, I mean next time when you come back out and look for a job where where you gonna look for, like


I see, right right


that's nice


oh okay that's nice, that's nice no as in as in you know having an idea is good, right, right


currently no I haven't even started working yet so it's uh, I haven't set any career goals cause I do not know what the, what my career is going to fix out lah like nothing is set in stone I haven't, have a career yet


part time freelance, (hmm) not really, I mean the most I've done was my internship but that is all


no no no nothing much really, that was very very long ago, I did part time before


in, uh I worked as uh customer service in, premier taxi, yeah, no it's not that nice you know everyday you have to like answer calls and you call the driver


and then like email us like if there's a lost and found, ya exactly


ya, ya ya so sometimes the customer will complain about the taxi driver, like you know the taxi driver just drove past me, never stop to pick me up, et cetera, and sometimes uh taxi driver very rude


sometimes the taxi driver reckless driving then you call the taxi then you tell the customer that oh, I'll inform the taxi driver and thank you for your, thank you for your feedback, then afterwards I need to call the driver tell him that then after I told him already then


I can resolve the case lah, ya different cases like that, normal lor it's I mean I it's not like extremely good it's just


standard lah, ya ya it is it is it is on per hour basis


oh from engine no no I don't think so, ya most probably I will


unless something ground, ya I mean if something, ground ground breaking happens then you know I I I guess and then I have to change out of engineering then ya ya, definitely I'm open to other things but


for now, ya ya for now engineering is like, is still good I think can go with the engineering role, ya


now they are no I don't think so I mean, oh okay, no I mean


sometimes it's, are they, okay lah I guess I mean if you compare to other different varying jobs then you know


like in the long run, some other jobs might actually pay better like the engineers are like, you know usually just doing the hard work and they're not getting paid that much, ya, it's it's


I mean it is, more than the usual uh desk work that you get paid for, but I won't say it's, very high, nor is it high


is it high, okay ya it's somewhat high if you get if you get a, ya it's it's higher if you have like you know more qualifications ah, but even poly grads, they also say that engineers might have might have a few they have a few of the like the lowest paid already


right I mean, were you from poly, ya did you have friends from engineering field, did they come out getting higher pay than the rest


ya, uh you know it's just, ya sometimes engineers even if if if you're in the maintenance


if you're in the design you work long hours you just you just you you work really long hours, and you just get, paid, I mean relative to the amount of work that you put in, you put in way a lot more work, and, uh just don't get paid at much ah


because, (ppb) I mean working as an engineer definitely there will be, I think overtime is like a normal kind of thing ya look look look at maintenance look at the technicians uh SMRT look at the engineers, I mean in varying field it's always like this ah I mean the the to to to deliver the project then definitely you need to work


overtime and then when there's overtime you're just not paid for it you know, and like throughout the entire week


yeah, yup


ya is is is is is is like that, ya, ya


ya but, at least they're like you know more recognised then they're paid more, you know like you know let's say, medical or even uh okay wait no that's no that's too high


what else is pretty good pay, oh right no no no that's too high okay let's just say let's just say uh a teacher, okay getting into a teaching program at the start


bags you three point seven thousand, ya and I'm only getting a three point, three point five, that kind of thing that kind of thing you know it's it's it's it's, it's just like this ah I mean


it's sadly that's just the truth you know it's, yeah, I'm not saying not saying not saying that that the teachers ya I mean I find that teachers have a very hard time they have the hardest time they need to teach like kids


(ppb) I mean if they teach kids they need to teach kids and then like you know they need to handle kids and that's why it's still the job is so tough you know


oh we do


ya, ya there'll definitely still be people working the jobs, uh I don't I don't think the focus is really replacing, the jobs I mean, I I I usually think it as making the jobs


easier end of the day you still need people coming back, to service the machines, or like even just to supervise the machines, or like, you know spotting the slight error that the machine might make given some unusual circumstance you still need experienced people to find that


so in the the near future I don't think it will just be a direct replacement I think I would look to it as like you know, making the lives of the people easier, but in the further future if the machines actually learn to be as good or even better then


that might come to be a different issue all together lah but in the near future no I don't think like the it's that, advanced yet to be able to replace the person's job completely


ya (huh)


we just go in there get the number and then you do fill in the thing right, ya but


if you choose to lah I mean there's still the, old school way, no no okay but, I mean in in okay let's just say in the cashier cashier example right


the area that it takes for them to set up six machines and put a person there, let's assume maybe okay maybe the area that it takes for them to set up four machine and put a person there is the same as setting up one cashier counter


then I suppose, you know it's like an equivalent exchange what they do is, instead of having that one cashier there, they they replace that space with four of those automated machines and put the same cashier there, just to help those, uh machines that suddenly have issues


see they they still they still get to do their job but, it's just made simplified, for them


ya that's true that will most probably be true, ya so which comes back around again, to when the machines have to you know


update maintain and different things like that then you're gonna need engineers to do it lah definitely for those uh high, high working kind of machines


ya ya uh those kind lah


ya ya true that is true


right, ya definitely I think that's


ya I think that's important, definitely


ya I mean it'll it'll goes with your saving, as in okay no maybe it doesn't go with our saving but, ya, ya you should you should ya ya definitely ah yeah


ya, ya, ya


yup, that's an issue also ah


ya, oh ya definitely I mean sure


ya, ya, ya definitely


uh ya there's always that, there's always that possibility but you know I mean, if you're able to do, (ppb) there's just different ways to prevent that from happening ah, it's just


a matter of whether you have learnt them and whether you execute them accordingly, as well, ya lor, I mean for more more of the risk adverse one ya just just just


you know it's like, uh if you risk adverse then maybe you might want to buy a company like uh mcdonald's, ya, or even coca-cola, I mean those are, solid blue chip companies you know


they're not the kind that would suddenly go poof, so so it's it's, like, you know


something like that lor, I mean if you wanna go riskier then you know you can look into the more popular stocks apple amazon tesla, it's your pick


ya ya ya that's why


right as in like, ya, like those kinds of jobs that are like, (ppb) that have a training programme willing to train you for


ya, ya like they should open more slots to train more, you know I don't know, I don't know what they could do well we'll see


ya, ya


ya ya, ya I guess ya


no no no not for this (ppb), uh food ya ya sure I think food food is fine


ya I agree I agree , ya


ya, ya, ya, go for the sustenance, it's just food food food for sustenance ya, not the luxurious kind of food


ya ya ya ya, ya same same here uh


roasted ah mine is white, mine is white white chicken, no it's fine bone no bone is fine


who in the neighbourhood most, ya, I can't I can't think of anything for Tampines I'm not sure


what is it famous for, oh really oh okay


oh okay


I don't know maybe, uh maybe maybe it's just the, convenience


like within their area this is the this is the next best choice that they have, and they like it so then you know I mean personally if they like something you can't (ppb), ya but you can't you can't can't also immediately say that it's better than that stall because (ppb)


that's your it's it's it's like a it's like it's like a personal kind of preference end of the day, yeah, but like I ya I mean


(ppb) that's a tough one


it's just that you know it's not it's not it's not


ya, ya ya ya maybe ya


ya that is true, correct correct


uh that's that's true that's true, kinda true, eh uh I think we should we should we have to dedicate some time to the scenario things eh, we pick


okay, ya ya, ya ya, ya ya, sure sure sure, ya I got driving licence, ya I got driving licence


class three, three, when uh immediately after my army


I failed once for the practical I took uh private, (ppb) I passed on my second attempt, manual


you can lah you just need practice lor, and then you can learn from the school also ya ya ya, (ppb) ya ya okay what sometimes, can what, can lah can I would say can lah (ppb), I mean it's a bit troublesome at times but I think if you drive more you'll usually get used to it


no no we don't have a car


I agree but you know, exactly, exactly, exactly even if it is, ya


ya I mean why not just get the licence it's, something that will last you for the entire lifetime, you don't have to use it


you don't you don't you I don't I don't use it for me I don't use it I haven't used it, I think it's


it's it's just something that you learn to keep such that next time round you don't have to spend time to do it, never know


you never know what, because sometimes overseas a car is a lot cheaper than getting uh public transport and a lot more convenient


and sometimes even, ya it just it just it just depends ah but why why why hold on to a driving licence I mean


it's just something that you can hold on to lor, and if you want to sometimes they can they can be like your, ya, I don't but I just hold on to it anyway


it's, roughly around five hundred give or take, plus I'm not sure uh actually more eh, I forgot I forgot


no lah, can't be that much can't be that much, one K ya one K sounds about right, one ya, because I need to rent the car from my teacher so that added quite a lot mine was a hundred over a day or something ya it's insane


sure


I play games, I don't do, I don't do anything much besides playing games, oh ya ya I mean I I mean I watch TV shows I guess


right right


right right you know I mean ya that's good, ya ya, I mean you know


I'll be joining you you in tennis soon, nope, nope nope nope no such thing I mean at home I just


rot at home and play computer games, ya that's right play a lot of computer games, I can clock in it easily, five six five six hours a day


five six hours a day easy, eleven ten hours how do you get eleven ten hours a day I mean can ah if you play, ten hours


ya okay fine ya ya that's true that's true, true true true true, ya, ya


ya, correct ya, uh no, no not anymore


favourite genre, music ah, ya I was, last time I I played last time but not now


ya, but not now, slightly I remember a bit, but I haven't touched one since a year ago


ya ya ya I went, that was like a good two years ago, uh eight, ya, no no


ya ya, yup yup, slightly


ya we can try the scenario based question I guess, which one do you want to do, yes let's conclude it, so we go we try go through the scenario


we we can, ya we try do all lah just give it a fast, there's four in total we just give it a fast five minutes each and we're good, cool


I only have twenty minutes left on mine, do you


what's your timer, ya exactly ya that's what I see also what so you have twenty minutes more what, two hours right


no two two and a half hours is the half an hour is for us to in case we're late, ya, scenario one (ppc)


I have no preference also, okay,


my strengths are , I suppose I I I'm a good team player I have uh done a lot of projects, as well and you know I work well with my, peers and friends at school


and also during projects , I suppose I can, I have, one of my weaknesses can say that you know


I'm inexperienced I, and from that inexperience I actually lack you know foresight with, foresight when it comes to project planning


I think another strength would be, integrity and yes I have uh, I have integrity when I do work


where what what what is what I, promise I will try to deliver to my utmost extent, uh doing for the projects ya


I think that's all


I mean I can't, personally I can't I can't I can't I can't tell whether they'll it'll be, differentiating, cause


we were we we we sort of, I mean my peers and I we all went through


oh I'm supposed I'm very open to new ideas, continuously continuously seek advancement, and also uh seek to learn more, uh that comes from being open minded as well


to be able to accept uh new ideas and accept, uh criticism and definitely will ask for improvements as well


okay, okay no but personally I feel that you know, if at least, special being special but


in a short interview kind of question you can't really determine if a person is special, that that is that is just it because, technically we are all just so common


we were all exposed to internet we have, answers, and different things like that, and then then and and to to to to find a, really special person I suppose you have to, work with them for a certain amount of time before you can really determine what's special about them


in the next five years


ya


ya I suppose, in five years I would like to, comfortably be able to head a team of designers I guess


to be able to handle projects and also hopefully I would have advanced uh in my studies as well, definitely learnt more things you know


after five years probably pursue a masters


how would I react


you know sometimes you just have to, what do you call that grit your teeth and, get down to the, work, I mean you know stressful situations to solve them it's really not easy there're few things that you would definitely have to plan ahead you know contingency plans


for in case anything messes up then, definitely that you, before all this, you there's there there definitely must be planning, to be done


during doing such events when it happens you just have to get down and, execute the plan that you have , uh planned ahead or, adapt, to the situation or how it provides you the things lah


as for facing sabotage uh well it it it it's normal I mean, we just have to try and clarify it as much as possible to you superior ah I guess


no not really I do not, ya that ends scenario one, okay


ya nah I don't I'm not sure I think there is but it's just, ya


just a birthday party ah, ya so I suppose the date and time could be the week of his, uh birthday which is this week and then we can plan it on this saturday which is I think


twenty third or twenty fourth, twenty second twenty second twenty third, I think, I'm not sure okay hang on


ya, ya ya so weekends is nice I mean then the location (ppb), it can be at you know uh, ya ya, ya


ya, ya exactly, well the theme what what what what should the theme be I don't know he likes pokemon so you can make it as a pokemon theme come himself or come in your pokemon clothes or something, you know something that he likes I guess


the budget, we plan, ya plan simple, just uh get a cake, maybe a buffet if really needs be


who else (ppb) uh and and well it will it will also depend on who you invite so I think I suppose you're going to invite, well ya that's true ya ya you can also have them (ppb)


ya, correct correct, (uh huh) we should invite the the family members definitely, his close friends, yup, ya definitely, uh who to ask for help


uh definitely his definitely uh, ya, all his siblings ya, ya ya, gifts, I think uh we could get him


ya shoes apparel he likes clothes, uh definitely food and drinks will be provided what sort of food buffet style rice chicken, veggies, ya


oh okay


right right, okay, ya ya then, then go with something more neutral lah


ya ya, okay, ya


okay, okay, ya ya sure


so, ya you know we can get him some, tech stuff maybe a phone cover for his phone, a smartwatch maybe (ppb) you know, different things that he might like


maybe a new bag , ya, okay ya we should move on food and drinks , yup board games darts


think darts are nice you know, anything the, right ya, I do


ya, okay, ya, ya ya definitely


ya, (hmm) definitely


no it's just me seeking advice from you, that is all


okay


oh for this I mean it will be the software that they will be introducing too, definitely I'll need uh presentation skills to present the ideas, more design thinking to solve uh various issues that might come up with and to


you know sometimes in engineering it's about , what's that, giving and take kind of like you know, trying to do a balancing act, you wanna you need to balance a


you have to you have to give and take you have to tweak around with the, conditions that the client might give you and then try design something around it lah, so, uh there's that to pick up the experience as well lah and then the software uh I'll need to be able to (ppb) I I'll have to familiarise myself with the software to


be able to, come up with, (ppb) some products or something, for the clients


I suppose one that is friendly and cooperative, where like the, they're willing to help each the engineers are willing to help each other out lah like you know sometimes when you need help then, so you can you can so so you can


you feel confident and you feel, that you are close enough to all your colleagues that you can just ask them to, ask them for favour you know things like that, uh I mean that will be ideal


sometimes it's usually most of the time it's not like this so ya


what types of, a lot of different types I guess, cause that will expose me to most of the and uh like you know most, most of the experiences I guess that will open open open up my


field of view, and also be able to think more holistically, as a whole, when faced with various different types of challenges you know, be it like


the, outrageous demands of the clients that you know absolutely cannot be fulfilled engineering wise or like (ppb), (ppb) having uh bad teammates or having uh low budget constraints or like (ppb) ya just just to name a few


(ppb) I mean there are definitely more that will pop up but ya those are the few I can think of currently, oh ya scenario four


okay so I'm the customer service officer, okay so hi my name is josh how can I help you


yes sir okay may I


I'm very sorry for the delay sir but for verification purposes can I please have your details, I think you can just give me like uh name is A A A then number flight number is one two three B or something like that


yes uh sir so for the, flight delay it, due to a natural disaster that has happened that has occurred, so uh I sincerely apologise for uh uh delaying your flight


unfortunately I uh it is not safe for the plane to takeoff uh any earlier than that so


yes sir but , to to to to (ppb), the landing the landing the landing (ppb) the the landing (ppb) the landing isn't safe


it says here that you're uh flying to uh hong kong, I think uh they they're experiencing hurricanes over there (ppb) and and and and and it isn't safe to land the plane there currently, yes so uh from the weather forecast


we we deem that it will be safer for the passengers and the pilots themselves for a later flight, (ppb) although we are unable to uh, change the flight time we can compensate you on the the delayed fight


okay can, that is that is the predicted time for the hurricane to blow past the


area that we'll be landing, yes sir, yes, yes uh we are willing to uh reimburse you ten percent of your flight


sir sir sir please, please please understand uh, it is not in our usual policy that we return uh flight uh as in you know that we return , that we reimburse


but sir uh it's a delayed flight uh but we should


yes but I hope you understand this is for your safety, that we delay the flight, uh it is we do not want the, any any accidents to happen during our flights at all


I'm very sorry sir but I think uh ten percent is the maximum that we can go to it's a it's it's a delayed flight sir you will still get there


possibly three hours later, but uh, ya, I I I apologise for the inconvenience uh caused but


there's nothing that we it is completely out of out of our control


(ppb) or maybe you can arrange for a, uh maybe we can arrange for a later flight for you back, ah ya ya another flight


yes so uh it will be uh it says here that you are returning on the, twenty sixth september maybe we can push it back to the twenty seventh, uh no no there'll we will just be doing a transference of


I I'm not sure about that but ya, I have no idea what they said, you right okay


ya it's tough man, oh ya definitely lah I mean, but if like they have time then I mean that's an I I I I don't even think no I don't even think I don't even think uh rescheduling the return flight is even allowed I don't know I never did this kind of


I never did this kind of uh, trip flight kind of customer service before man, I'm just like I don't know man just, saying stuff here okay, ya


is it, probably ah probably, ya ya possible possible, okay sir so if it's fine with you I'll be rescheduling your flight back from twenty sixth to twenty seventh at


(ppb) what do you say ten AM, why ten A uh to give you time to check out from the hotel and, various things, we will be providing you with a complimentary stay as well for your additional day of stay there and then


you'll be flying back, is there another time that you prefer on twenty seventh, okay, that can be arranged, that can be arranged, okay


thank you thank you for, ya it'll be it'll be it'll be it'll be transferred back to your account sir, yes


two weeks, sir I assure you the money will be back in your account before you even get back from the flight


before you get back from your holiday, (ppb) it will come shortly after, it will come shortly after


uh I think I think, I think it'll be uh it might be the bank issue I I I'm not too sure about that, I can transfer you to my uh financial, customer service guy


he will be able to share more, yes yes yes, okay, let let let me check okay, okay so uh if you don't get it uh within two weeks then we are liable for the payment but I assure you sir


it will come, within the first week or so, okay will that be all sir


yes, yes yes yes sir, oh that


okay thank you sir, okay thank you sir have a good day sir, K end of scenario four right


I think we just put down eh no no as in, I don't think hang up ya like just leave the phone there just leave the phone there and then we just go out and, tell them, ya I'm going to do that now you just uh I or or hang on I go out and ask first lor you can just sit down there and chill for a bit ya alright alright okay


yo john, ya, they want us to continue talking till it's uh, I think twelve thirty, they need roughly two and a half hours of talking time


no no they just, they're continuing to talk lah it's uh, they want two and a half hours of, recording time so we have to get back to, the free range talk, ya


sorry which one ya what, ya, I just just just hang on for a bit I go and drink some I go out


hello, okay , ya okay, let's uh let's continue it's uh


so where are we at , ya, let's try to go on


shopping I guess, have we talked about shopping, uh ya okay


no no no no I don't no I don't I don't really shop much uh the only things that I shop for (ppb), uh I suppose was the new monitor that I bought, oh roughly that then


ya I got a three D printer but the the those lor I'm I don't know I'm looking to buy a keyboard and a mouse ya that's roughly it (ppb), ya, ya


ya, well I'm trying to fix up my desktop at the same time so I'm gonna need a keyboard and a mouse


ya ya, ya yes yes I do, no not really


(ppb) the last time I shopped for clothes was oh ya ya ya ya uh I recently ya ya yes I did yes I did I I I needed to get some, clothes for my uh new job


uh ya the the new year and all that stuff


ya exactly, ya


oh ya ya you do that right (ppb)


now no no no I do not, time when I was uh still staying in hostel then ya you know I did grocery shopping sometimes I did cook and stuff but now no


not at all, ya ya sometimes I did you know just the simple kind ah like, get the pre made sauce the carbonara sauce or some tomato sauce and then you just cook the pasta ah then you get some minced meat