ya last last time I remember there is also the some, extra things other than CCA and ECA like those like, school field trips ah, camping ah that kind of thing I don't know whether the education system now really caters for this


kind of extra things do you do you have have you heard of all these kind of things, really


ex exchange program lah is so so is the responsibility of the child lah correct, because last time right I remember my okay last time when


I had my, PSLE right primary school leaving examination after my examination right I was a, I was asking whether the teachers can bring us out for trip but I think they don't want the responsibility to be on their hand ah


ya, yes, oh really oh my goodness the expectation ah of the teacher nowadays ah also changing


oh really is something like a something like a farewell and uh prom prom you can call that a prom lah correct, so the parent will also have to spend money on the outfit as well


so after primary school, also have, this kind of things


really, ya


okay, ya I I I mean I I don't foresee, I I I don't reject this kind of ideas ah because it's a good


event, to let the stress out and uh to let their hair down so that the kids can, really go and enjoy themselves lah, during this kind of event, and is also good, for


bonding with uh, like friends of different, friends of the same age, ya, I guess they will build a good friendship along the way and they can help each other along the way if they know each other better


ya, good childhood yes exactly


ya, exactly, ya but uh it kind of like get let me stress out on like the things


that the kids nowadays also expect lah, so is like they are comparing about oh uh you, during the holidays your parents bring you to this trip my parents uh only bring me to uh, a nearby country yes exactly that's what I'm saying


kids are also comparing their holidays their their, so called, about physical items like pencil case pencils and, school bags and everything like that


ya, so uh, for the last five minutes maybe we talk about, what do we want to talk about, [orh] is it, so


okay so we can, check with the, you you hold on ah you don't, don't, don't, hit the, button yet, okay, let us check check with the coordinators


hello dear, this reminds me of, , primary school, picture description was one of my


uh, most feared, and the conversation part, on the left side top left is it, middle left ya I see a shop as well


and the door, uh, it says decorative hat pin so yours is designer hat pins, mine is decorative hat pins for sale, I don't have a pen eh you have a pen ah


ah, oh, okay okay give me a minute give me a minute


just one of us circling is enough, uh okay, yes and there's a diagonal stripe from top right to left


yes it's , kind of dark grey and the cross and then there is a blue colour background, uh yes


is the shop name just shop above the door, okay, yes, oh mine that only have one bird , , it's a yellow bird and a green bush right


, my bird is, kind of near it's kind of centralised but nearer to the top left


is there a difference, !huh! wrong bird, oh, okay


where is the sign, I don't have any sign, and there's two is it sheep or, goat or look


ah okay horns and their their their butts are facing each other right


yes uh I only have this two white goats you know you have others ah, that is outside the pan, okay I have one uh nearest the pan I have one big sheep and then behind this big sheep is one small sheep


so we have three, we have four, what is the, oh okay


okay, uh yes towards the right, wearing green and


top and blue, shorts and blue, shoes, and holding something long, thing, on the shoulder, is it a a grey color, like looks like a harpoon ah


eh wait and he says and he says shoot, okay so that's number five


yes red and white, uh striped dress pink and yellow, pink shoes, ya, tractor


ya, above the basketball, both arms, and the mouth is open blue color shirt, green color uh tractor with grey wheels


okay, (ppc), yes


uh yes, white top are you talking about


you where is the girl with the light yellow top, and black pants ah, bluish bluish pants, it's just right in front of the the man with the saw


uh no I have, like you know Halloween uh two, two people but, a sheet of white over their head, both have a sheet of white the one nearest to the guy with the saw have blue pants and the sheet of white over the head down to the


below the knees there is no, there is no eye, the next one the guy uh the the person beside this one, this hooded person also have a white sheet down to the knees and there is a two eyes, the hole for eyes and red color


uh okay like red red reddish pants, grey shoes, on the floor beside them, no don't have


uh yes there is a veg on the chopping board and beside also right, on the chopping board and then beside it there is another long green veg right, oh okay that is different mine is just one pear I think looks like a pear


then okay the the lady is pink color, overall right and blue color, shirt


curly hair, with a, with a frown, and then, uh there is a bowl with like, something that look like green beans or something, peas


ah okay, oh the potatoes, potatoes yes and then red color label, and then uh the potatoes are like


to above the brim, oh, no don't have I don't have empty sack,


yes and the and is a the short form one ah the cursive one, okay, white table ya, strawberries, oh carrot from the right three uh one two three four carrots


the fourth one is like in between ah ya, okay and the strawberries two four six, oh on uh, ya ya


ya he is looking, uh, he is looking on my left, the bee is on his ice cream, on the, grey color ice cream is it


ah different, okay and the ice cream right the ice cream uh there are two scoops uh the bottom is green and the top is grey, same


no no sign, white color rabbit, no, because I already have it, , you count twelve


excellent let's, put the phone on the table and then we step out, okay, (mmhmm) bye, phone table ah


hello dear, okay, oh this is a really, this question okay what dream of yours, dies a little with each passing day, (ppc)


(mmhmm)


ambition, ya


okay, that's great, I I think for me, , my dream of


uh, success, uh in it's various forms whether is it, a well balanced life, , you know reaching my potential in my career, uh


and then being able to flash out, my interest, , while I'm young it, it dies a little with each passing day because I get, older with each passing day and


and , I am really, uh, not as young as I hope to be anymore, okay your question


most interesting thing that I have seen on the Internet, uh, I guess I have seen many interesting things, , but the thing that comes to mind immediately, when you said that I guess because of recency it's about how people are able to


uh, make a livelihood out of the Internet just by being, uh YouTube bloggers or even uh like Nas daily, I am not sure how much he earns but I guess he he earns sufficient to travel around the world,


one country after another practically and, doing a video a day so it's quite amazing how, , you can earn a living on the Internet and for some they don't even have to leave their house, what about you


okay


oh , do you like the taste of beer, you are not answering my question , , well I I kind of said yes, ya


okay what do you wish still existed from your childhood


, okay maybe you think about it and then I answer first okay


(ppc), uh I think, uh, a a few things, , I kind of enjoyed how, even even though I didn't really I was too young to buy from them but you know last time there used to be


uh food peddlers that would come up to your house and sell food stuff, , actually it's I think is not so much about the, the the food that they are selling and me wanting to buy them because there is all the concerns about


, the hygiene and things like that, uh however it it just, it's just quite a nice feeling you know it's like it's part of the, neighbourly and kampung feeling, , where people are


still quite okay about opening doors or even their doors are open and the peddlers come, and, there is this variety lah you know where you don't have to go down, to buy go outside to buy food but you know do all kinds of food may just uh appear at your door


, I I I guess it's just a few, and then , when I was young there were I had a lot of free time I was very bored, and time passed too slowly, so actually I wish that


uh I still had that amount of time because I think I I would have, been able to use it much better now, what about you


, oh


oh, !huh!


okay, I can imagine I think I think I have seen it before, , okay,


!wah!, oh ya I'm supposed to answer ah what useless subject, ended up being useful, later in life,


okay I I don't think there, I don't, really think, I saw any subjects as useless, , I


but there were some subjects that I I wish I paid more attention to like, statics and accounts because those, once you lose the train of whatever the teacher is teaching it's it's a bit harder to catch up


so I find that uh they would be rather they would be, there would be some use for for for them now, uh, or in my work, , ya, what about you


, okay I think you need to refresh me on those cause I later cause I don't don't remember, okay how do you celebrate the victories in your life


ah, take a rest, as in uh, you, you would sleep or what


, are you saying like the politically correct stuff, , I know are you saying what is, uh pleasing to the ear, or the truth


uh no, no I really want to know like how would you, okay let's say as a as, uh, by yourself if you were single now how would you celebrate it


oh, okay because when you are successful then you have to continue, continue it, ah, so do you like success


okay mine is I guess, okay I I think the first thing I do, uh, I'm I'm kind of a reflex


sometimes almost a reflex uh response is I I would thank god because, I guess , I guess victories, don't happen uh as often as I like


so you know when something goes well then I I'm thankful and I I express it to god, uh, verbally actually most of the time, and then I would, often


, look for food good food to reward myself, , or maybe I might say that, you know if there is something that I have wanted, uh


for some time, uh I may allow myself to to get that, and, uh it would be nice if each time I I can actually celebrate with a a wonderful holiday, ya


okay your your turn, !wow!, drop everything


okay this is a very like general question I'm not sure, uh like drop does it mean drop relationships also or, uh, ya I think I would reach stability, and


some level of certainty, uh, I and I think it depends on how big that dream is and how, , the probability of success and


and how, probable the dream is cause if, if it's something really doable and I can really get follow the dream and get whatever I want then it may not really


feel like such a risk, uh to leave behind whatever I need to leave behind, you


, okay you have died, and can now see all the statics from your life, what are some fun ones to look up


!aww!, ,


!huh!


, that that's all, only one area, oh anything else


okay, (ppc), okay fun and non serious one right maybe the number of times, uh I, said I love you and the number of times you said I love you, what is the


most, often, used words, or or what is the thing, uh, most frequently said by you to me and vice versa, and uh


maybe how many times we kissed versus how many times, we, disagreed and got into an argument, and uh maybe tracking year by year like, the number of , lovely and


sweet times versus uh times where it's not so nice, to see if there is a trend, and, uh, even like habits like the number of times


we uh, eat out or go on holiday as the years pass, and,


ya maybe the number of times, uh this is like half serious, the number of times uh, we laughed, uh versus the numbers of time either of either of us cried or got angry, ya


I think it it may be interesting, okay your question, !wow!


what question would I ask, oh I can't think of any now you go ahead you go first


, that is a good one, ya, uh okay, I I think I would, like, to ask god then, , what


you know how best I should live my life, uh broken down into, , the general direction and then, the daily steps


as well as uh how, can I execute it, okay, what small decision made a huge impact on your life


!huh! is that a small decision


, oh


ya I actually, that was the first thing that came to my mind as well when I was reading the question, for myself however I was thinking eh marriage is not a small decision but, uh put the way you did I guess, uh in in in that sense ya it it is a huge impact


uh from a small decision, and, , I also think that, why we may feel that, it is a small decision that made a huge impact is because we


we both believe that marriage is for life, and it's not like, uh contractual basis or, ya, and it's not like, you know it's okay to have an open marriage and all that so that's why


oh okay,


oh, ya I guess, because if if, there is an open marriage and it's like more flexible or you know it doesn't matter whether the person marries and divorces or whatever, uh it


it doesn't seem like such a, big impact ah the marriage , next question nah, ya


what uncommon characteristic, oh, (hmm), I think it's uncommon because, it is not, uh


it is not really that it's unique, uh, more of, it is not seen enough, uh I I would think it's, uh sincerity, uh empathy


uh, being able to, listen with the heart, uh, I think people with this they, they do come across as more


uh, genuine, and that, you feel more you feel closer to them, you feel that uh there is a chance for a deeper, friendship


, , maybe don't mention names just the letter


, , ya, okay if happiness were the currency of the world, what job would generate the most money


, I think, everyone uh, uh I think maybe, different things would make, uh different people happier, so if this is a a bit of a hard question to just


narrow it down to one job, , the, the range of jobs that I can think of are, , maybe entertainment because, uh I


I heard or read somewhere that, uh some people they actually, uh treated their depression by watching oh no treated their illness, uh and and the pain that they experience from it by watching uh comedies


uh one after another and you know just keep laughing and it just, overall improve their moods and and their health, and, I think, just defining what happiness is it can, uh it can be quite


it it may be hard to nail down, , but apart from entertainment which may seem more superficial, I think that, most people, uh benefit from


loving and supporting relationships, so, perhaps, a a profession that that helps, people find this, and keep and maintain this loving and


uh supporting and fulfilling relationships with other people, ya I mean like family also


, , what is, uh say can you say that again


oh, what is a good argument


of an issue so basically I have to, uh and I have to pick a topic that I feel strongly about, and, I have to think of an argument that is opposite to my own position


!wow!, I did most of this will be very controversial , ya, everything is political right, okay is abortion politics


, !wah! that is like very Cheem already, okay uh, feel strongly about, , I will just come up with one


I, !wah!, okay this is not okay, I I believe that uh there should only be, uh, I believe in


monogamous uh marriages, and, that, if, after you make the decision to get married, uh, whether you think it's


the best decision, to be married or not or whether you pick, , or you think you pick the right person, , you just have to, work on


uh, making it better lah and making it right because then that that is the perfect person for you already, so that's my position, (ppc), the counter argument, is that I think some people may think


if it takes so much effort if if you make a wrong decision to get married let's say you are supposed to be single, then , you are wasting your life by staying married and making the other person miserable as well so why don't uh just end it


or, you know there could be, someone else uh more suited, , you know more sparks make you laugh more can identify more soulmate and all that so, instead of wasting your time


you go through the heartbreak but then you, get a chance at at this other, uh, relationship and, uh you make break your partner's heart but, , maybe the person


will also get a chance at another relationship, okay, your turn


oh, , ah


oh


oh, oh can you can you say the last, three uh the sentence before commit to higher, the


, then they have, higher paying jobs, oh


oh, oh this is really quite interesting and I managed to follow it, ya, okay what is the is it my turn to ask the question


oh, you you've asked me oh ya what is the worst way to meet a future significant other


oh why,


oh I'm, so I'm not, I'm not everybody else


what is the best way, ya what is the best way then


, , okay for me, , I I I think maybe


you know in in places where, there is vice uh like you know if, to meet a future significant other uh in a brothel


or, while getting drugs from a drug dealer, uh, and and things like that lah because, , even if, if they when they


when they turn okay because it it, you you may not know who will turn over a new leaf first and then if the other one is still stuck, in all those vices, it, it will really be a strain and burden on on on the spouse who has made good and also


uh in future you know let's say, when people ask how do you meet it's, it's quite embarrassing to say how you how you met if you were to tell the truth, and it may be a, past history past thing tainted history that


uh, may mull, the relationship, ya, so that's, that's it


K your turn, ah, ah you wait say ask ask say the question again


oh okay so


!wah!, what do I do with it, , I will aim I mean if I'm omniscient !wow!


that's kind of scary I I think I may have to choose what I want to know and what I don't want to know, uh and, then if I'm omniscient then I will know uh exactly maybe I will know how to shortcut you know success and


shortcut what are the things that I really do need to do and what I don't need to do, uh so, I mean obviously superpowers are used to improve one's life


uh, just a bit scary lah to be omniscient like god , okay, a superpower do you want to choose your superpower, I know I'm thinking what superpower


uh, superpower to, uh, okay uh superpower for you to be, anywhere, at any time


in an, instant, ah okay teleport


, no it's scary,


but you'll be flickering , ya then it will be, , ya, okay next question


, oh gosh, oh maybe you'll be good, okay, , okay next question if you could ya if you could transform back and forth into any object what would it be


ah


what is another state of yourself, so so what does that mean is you transform into what lah


, giant bot, !aiyo!


no lah, something else , really you like being a human


no back you can transform back and forth you know, oh, !aiyo!


two two P and two two P and C, uh I, I think maybe, uh


maybe two things, uh, I wonder can I be the, the genie in the lamp, , then whenever I need something right then I transform into the genie in the lamp


and then I will I will grant myself my wish, ya so uh that's the second thing I thought of the first thing I thought of was, uh transform into air, because uh if ever I need to be


you know let's say in danger and then suddenly I I don't want I do not want to be tracked, uh, doesn't matter if it's in the outdoors or indoors or whatever there's there's air everywhere, so if I just transform back into air then no one can


see me you see, then I transform back when it's convenient to, ya or I can even uh if I need to eavesdrop, on anything, then I I can do that as well


K, your turn, a quarter what's a quarter ah like ten cent


what kind of jobs can I do, !wow!, , what kind of jobs will I do


, uh can you think of anything, ya, what is that


oh, oh


oh, ya, oh ya specialized doctor, ya true err oh Gosh !ee! so gross right ya


ya, ya true, , what kind of job can I do is it or will I do, oh, oh


I think, I mean I would like being a quarter, I, oh maybe I can do a YouTube Channel about life, about my life as


a Porter size and then hopefully I'll earn uh money through that, and , I can oh I can even do like those miniature, stuff you know


because, uh when I'm building those miniature stuff it's, it's, it's going to be more , I think is gonna be easier for me and more intricate than than a human doing it, then


I don't know whether can I be useful in the Jewellery line, with the jewels, not sure, and uh I can be a, high level personal assistant or consultant you know you just put me in your pocket


or, something like that or give me a like nice, uh customized armchair in your, handbag with, uh, with like some space for breathing, and then I can be a companion


uh I can be for hire during the day companion uh as well as , consultant, ya, okay, uh, my question


if you could hybridise two animals together, what would they be and what would you call the animal


oh, oh, why, oh


oh, so just to see how what would happen, oh (ppc) uh, maybe


two animals only [orh], , okay maybe, I I thought of two combinations one is uh


okay it's not a real animal a unicorn, and either a unicorn with a mermaid, or unicorn, with, ya maybe a unicorn with a mermaid so that


you know , it's like, oh ya, , I thought it was an animal


no no because mermaids are not really, humans right they are like, human like, but, they, , you know like those uh


mythological, oh ya do you know what's mythological stories where they talk about how uh the mermaid's sirens, uh the evil mermaids ah you know will cause the sailors to


drown or something like that, ya so it doesn't sound like they are human man like they make you, uh die and then I don't know what they do with you, oh no it's okay


ya just because , it's like in childhood you know you watch all these cartoons, so it's like it's a animal can be on both land and, sea then it's quite cool, but I am not sure what I will I will Call them


, ya, then uh the other one is real animals, uh an eagle and a cheetah, cause uh eagle supposed to have super sharp eyes


soar above clouds you know and uh people always say soar like an eagle, and then the cheetah is really fast, uh so you combine these two powerful animals together, uh it's like !wow!, uh I mean uh of course it is


combined and and then like I can have their, characteristics lah not not for them to come after me, your question


!wah!, oh, , uh, address only ah okay I will, I will try and uh find


find uh if they have a contact number, and then uh, I I will WhatsApp them first so that I'll save money don't have to do long distance call, and uh just get to know each other first before we manage to save up and


, meet each other, ya and then uh, ya, I I think I will enjoy like being able to go to the other side of the world and see what it's like, what about you


, (uh huh)


, but but what if you're not married yet, and we don't know each other yet, (ppb), !aiyo! !wah!


trumping trumping answer ah I answered I answered, uh, with, on the basis that we don't know each other yet , okay so now uh it's


my turn is it, oh okay what sounded awesome until you you tried it


oh, oh, oh


oh, oh, ya I thought that you


, I thought that there were some times where you ate it and you really enjoyed it


oh, okay I think K what sounded awesome until you tried it for me, , uh I forgot


, , (ppc) uh, what sounded awesome until you tried it, okay you talk about food


uh for me, was there any any places that that we went that I thought it was going to be great and then I didn't like it


, I'm sure there is just now when you were talking I I I I thought of, something but then it slipped my mind, what sounded awesome, until you tried it, okay I think uh I can't remember what was the other one but


my calendar planning, you know my calendar planning usually it looks , well planned awesome until the day comes and then, uh, I I find that oh, why sometimes I find that why why did I pack all this


different , events and trainings and all that you know I I I found that actually I'm I'm too tired uh I didn't have the, energy,


that I thought, I I would have to complete all those, and also uh I think I still do tend to underestimate like the number of things that I can do, so, , probably have to moderate my expectations and be more realistic


K your question, strangest thing I've ever seen, (ppc), or experienced (ppb)


strange ah, , I can't remember anything


okay why don't you go first


(mmhmm), oh, that's the babies or the semen or


, ya


, I think oh okay I I'm, I I remember some things already like when I was young, uh, I thought it was quite, uh uh


strange and, unique that my dad, uh has like a little thumb growing out of his big thumb, ya and I was like !huh! what's what's that and, I can't remember now if it has a nail on it even, then uh as I grew older


(ppc) I, remember when I was in , uh, taking my o-levels, at and then I was uh taking some classes at YMCA as well and I was uh with this group of people and


uh I don't know how, uh, this girl came to know, this other, this Ang-Moh guy, this uh Caucasian guy who, , who who seemed rather interested in her and


but actually he's he's he's just rather flirty lah and I I I think at the end of it he was just interested in in sex, , and (ppb), he actually had, you know you you can't tell at first


uh, but one of his eye right, it's, is not his real eye I think he said it's a glass eye, so I'm not sure how he lost his eye, so that was like really kind of


!wow! that was really strange to me because, I, he he was like so normal and he's like just like a guy who picks up a girl at the bar or something like that, and, you don't, uh, I mean I was trying to, put


I was trying to reconcile that with, he, he was partially disabled because he had lost the eye but then later on, I don't know how he he got the the, uh the eye, , back lah and I rather that, that, uh glass eye actually help


uh in anything in in his vision, ya then the third one was , uh I think one or two times I've seen people with, uh part of their heads gone, uh, in real life as well is as in a video


uh like, , as if like a a slice of uh, of their head has been taken away, and, uh, they they don't I mean they look very different, uh


yet I mean I'm I'm glad to see that they can still function lah, , your question, ah it's my question


ah, (ppc) okay, what was your, I'm not even mad I'm impressed, moment, ya what was your, ya what was your open inverted commas I'm not even mad I'm impressed closed inverted commas moment


, ya, ya


okay, I think I may have had this kind of feeling before but I cannot really remember what, uh probably it has to do with you know, someone, doing something that is actually


uh, usually not pleasant or not right, or even a kid doing so but, uh the person being able to pull it off, so well lah you know, uh, so


ya and also uh I think, I I really am wondering how like, salons beauty salons do it or even other places where, they, you know they are able to make people


buy and commit to, uh the equivalent of, maybe, one to, three or more uh, insurance or investment plans


uh, without much thought you know, or or without, uh, all the like objection, different excuses, and, uh and the and the people they they kind of know like


uh, the salon kits you know making them upgrade or buy or whatever but they couch it in such a way that they always throw in, throw in uh freebies or you know throw in deals that like that sound very good, and then uh they always make it like incremental so so


, it's not like oh one lump sum that you put in but you know you you when you split it by don't know how many months oh it's only this amount and all that and and people, uh most of the people they don't get mad at these salons or uh these other retail places where where they do this you know


, and and when they think of like oh you know I don't have enough money, I need to cut down they don't think that that's where all their money went to you know, uh I I can really cannot understand then they go and think like, , ya what is the, policy or financial plan or savings I need to cut


when maybe the financial plans and savings are only a fraction of what they spend on the other things, so I guess I'm I'm impressed lah, by how how how they do it and, the customers are not even angry with them when


they are the ones that get the customers in financial trouble,


oh parents ah, I think my mom lah, uh, when, when I was growing up uh it was not I didn't realize is was not usual for


uh, parents to, I I didn't know that, there are people who actually cook every meal, uh for their children I, I didn't I couldn't imagine like someone being in the kitchen almost the whole day


because my mom was working shifts so, uh she had to bulk cook and then store it in the freezer so we would just eat, I'll warm up the food and eat it uh over the week


what about you, oh ya


ya, ,


how did you accomplish, something that you thought would be impossible


okay, or difficult


, you're an action taker, , okay, uh for me I think, the


easiest thing would be uh I think it's back to my earring story, where I pierced my own uh, ear ears, for earrings, , I set up, to do it I think around, maybe


eleven AM twelve PM, , and I just thought with the idea of dressing my own uh, ears because uh I wasn't allowed to go, uh to the jewellers to do it, uh, so I I thought that you know I was not this will bring my


uh mum because, I I I didn't go to the jewellers so I did on my own, so I just, , in the space off I think I I sat, in front of the mirror for eight hours and, uh I used the I tried to sterilise a needle and


I put two, uh measured spots on my ear lobes, one on each side and, uh I just put the needle through, uh I, didn't, even while doing it I didn't think that the needle I would really be able to put the needle through because you know it's it's painful


uh but somehow layer by layer I, I put that needle through the ear lobe, and uh, I took so long so, by the time the needle went out the other side uh the front head closed so I had to do the same process again uh but this time I used a


a earring, so I guess uh, the lesson for me is that sometimes, things that we thought we wouldn't do or we would not be able to bring ourselves to do uh once you start it and


you just focus on, that moment and take it step by step uh sometimes, , the the whole elephant would be eaten up ah, basically, okay your question


, !wah!, oh when I embarrass myself, when my body , chooses to embarrass myself like I told you what happened at the neighbours


oh gosh, but it wasn't still so bad I guess, at, moments when, uh bigger embarrassments ah I guess, uh in public places, and


or maybe in danger, and uh, also at times when my mind goes blank, then I wish like !wah!, I believe, we should get out, of those places, you


(ppb), , , you were embarrassed, okay


okay what stupid antics are you and your friend most proud of


, okay I go first, uh, when uh, when we were in Beijing with uh my sister and brother in law at one of the


palaces I think summer palace or whatever, uh, I will we I decide uh the two of us decided to like play around, and I was pretending to be like, the beautiful girl I think we were trying to


to reenact one of the you know period Chinese period drama, so I was like pretending to be the girl in the center and doing the dance and then we were doing that, uh, couple dance but I think it was called, like, maybe it's probably called something like double swan dance or something like that so we were doing we were doing that uh dance


uh, with like lots of other tourists around, uh, in a square and then my sister recorded it down, uh, it's not it's not that, it's not about proud but I think it was, it was quite fun


uh it was a funny moment and, and we enjoyed ourselves so, uh, I don't regret doing that, have you thought of anything,


okay your question, how many more questions do you have, oh I got two okay, !wah!


uh achievement system ah, interesting, uh, probably, doing noteworthy things that others haven't done before, uh at the moment I can't think of any, uh


fun things would be, uh, travelling to the most number of countries, , finding , what what is that thing called ah, you you know last time there was this


review where, uh food places, oh hidden finds you know like find uh find uh being able to to to get to hidden finds people, interesting and nice places that people go to, uh I mean that I I go to where


, others will be interested also but, haven't ventured because they just keep going down the, tried and tested path, uh, discovering


new things scientific things even though I'm, not so sure that I'm, I'm I'm such a scientific person, uh, uh inventing useful things,


being able to, like have the, most loving and happy family, uh, having the most satisfied life I guess


some of these achievements will be nice and, uh being able to do a a job, that you love, uh at the income that you want and, the hours that you prefer


your turn


oh


, !aiyo!, ya I think I heard this story


oh, the, this is a


oh so #Mohammed Chen# is, the rarest person, oh, oh


, okay next question, uh, assuming you could ignore a single law of nature what invention would you like to create


oh,


!wow!, you mean what you mean measuring as in like, weighing and


uh, tracking that kind of thing, ,


!wow!, okay, uh for me, uh I mean there recently uh, like some time travel shows and I've always been intrigued by uh time travel and, or or rather the stories lah that are weaved around it


most of the time it's quite interesting so if I could ignore, uh, the the law of nature I would like to, invent (ppb), uh, a time travel tool something that is portable


, not, not like a big huge machine so you know when, we, want to or need to, uh, we can just always like, go back and fix something that was


not so good in the past or revisit places that, uh we loved, without losing uh, a new time, ya, K next question


oh, I think the superpower I chose for you ah, to, be able to be at


uh teleporting [loh], and, if the teleporting can also involve uh, time travel, so that you know I can, save time, that'll be nice, you eh


!wah!, oh is it


oh, !wah! so good ah, Bao Ka Liao, , okay describe an animal or colour, to a blind person okay so you describe an animal or a colour to me


, must be a real animal hor, , (ppb), (ppb), must be defined as an animal


no, no dear come on


(ppb)


good


err so sad, okay, , my favourite colour is red, and, red it is , it is a strong colour, uh


it is uh vibrant it, uh when used in a, large, uh amounts uh of spaces I mean if it's if it's used on a large uh space it can be quite, (ppb)


uh it can be it can feel quite shocking or loud, and, , it is, known as the colour of passion, uh, things that are red


are uh the colour of our blood is a a shade of red, uh, there are red chilies red tomatoes red apples, uh, there is also , uh chili paste is also usually red maybe from uh the colour the uh dye


and , there are some people I think there are some people whose eyes are red right, ya and rabbit's eyes I think rabbit's eyes are red


oh okay sorry black okay I don't know where I saw that, so , red, (ppb), !alamak! you color blind not blind, oh oh oh okay okay your character, ya, okay ya and red is one of the


traffic lights color for, uh people who can see, uh, when, the red man comes on it means uh you have to stop, uh so red is also often use as a color to signify, uh not only passion but uh


danger, and uh caution, ya that's all, I've finished my questions


uh pick one, fiction, oh okay, sleeping beauty, sleeping beauty uh slept for many years right I think thousand years or something


and then a prince came along kissed her and she woke, and uh the story goes that they fell in love, uh and eventually lived happily ever after, uh, but if let's say, sleeping beauty woke up even though her looks and everything was preserved and all that


if she didn't like a younger guy, , then uh, she may just say uh thank you very much, for waking me up but uh, but uh we can't be together because you're a thousand year younger than me


, this this is just an easy one so that's why I just take that okay, what about you


okay oh


, okay, !yay! okay put on table okay see you outside


hello dear, do you know no wonder it's so cold it's sixteen degrees


oh gosh, oh (ppb), eighteen is also cold here I was freezing man I didn't know I can adjust, I'm gonna adjust it to twenty three point five now, oh gosh, okay


uh free talk topic prompts okay, oh is, uh oh ya okay so what CCA did you enjoy,


(mmhmm),


oh for bagpipes, oh, how old were you, !wow!


oh,


!aiyo!, oh


(ppb), !aiyo!, so computer club does what the manuals are for like what programming or what


oh, oh, and then the, Jakarta was like uh for the team is it or only for you


oh, do you wear kilts as well, (ppb), what is it, cape


oh, !huh!, oh, then wear pants ah, (ppb), okay, then you never had any tuition or enrichment classes


oh okay okay uh ya this, oh, oh


oh but I thought you're quite okay in piano what in the end as in you can play ah oh, oh, (ppb), why why were you angry


don't know like like so cute


oh, oh so your sight reading is bad, why ah, cat, oh, but your playing is good


ya I wasn't good at sight reading as well, but I wasn't good at okay wait wait wait (ppb), ya I know you don't have to talk about you don't have to talk about the things that you don't want oh but you know the


, I I I think I wasn't good at both sight reading and the, uh I mean the playing ya I was only good at uh doing the theory tests (ppb), which is useless because it's it's you're supposed to learn how to play the piano


ya, okay let me talk about my CCA, uh (ppc), uh I was in sewing club, and I was in, ya, in primary school was was really not bad like


primary one or two or three I forgot then uh later on in, secondary school I was in drama club, I think primary school there were other clubs but I forgot you know I was quite, blur kid, and, sewing club !aiyo! there was this incident


I I, may have told you before, , I don't know why like is it blur what, I was supposed to help my friend cut, the thread you know, and I will remember there's this this large scissors


I don't know how I cut the palm of her hand instead, you know the fleshy part, of of of the, not where the thumb is like the other part, instead of the cutting the thread I I sliced through there you know !ouch! forever now I will remember you know and I was like


oh gosh , and then, it's a accident and I think my, I forgot which teacher was in charge uh I don't know how, how they, managed the situation lah but


uh from what I can remember I think that friend was was quite nice, and, I can't remember whether she cried or not whatever but, I just felt at that time even now like as if it's it's then again, it I I felt like I was in a bubble or


in the daze of my own you know like I I was like in the bubble of my own or in the daze, and, then like, I don't know how it happened and I don't know, like what, what what happens next and, everyone is like panicking and


I'm like just so blur, ya so (ppb), uh I don't know whether it happened another time or not because, I think, sometimes I will have this kind of foreboding where you know when I'm gonna do something that is similar to the previous then I'm afraid it will happen and then it does you know


it's just like, ah, like I don't know how when, I was a kid I was holding, I would start out holding my father's or my mother's hand let's say my father's hand, and then I'll close my eyes and then after I open my eyes right


I'm holding someone else's hand you know, it's very weird right I don't know how it happens ya it's like, I don't know it's quite worrying it's like is it from young there's this, uh blurness even though now it's better lah (ppb)


then , ya so there's sewing club it did teach me how to do, uh some of the teachers which I still do it now till today, , I think I learnt how to sew, like purses and all that


and then, at drama club I think it that was where it helped me, to be more, uh, extroverted and not afraid, not as scared on the stage, I really enjoyed it


uh because I saw a different side of, uh myself from the shy, and introverted, uh person, ya, (ppb), K do you want to talk about, the others or you can pick a topic that is interesting


oh oh I have, you know I had to go for a parent teacher meeting for my sister , cause my parents were both busy so I mean we are only four years apart but


but I have to go there you know like, uh, I think maybe I was seventeen or sixteen and then, take notes for my, my sister who was just entering secondary school, ya and I was considered more matured for my age at that time as well


no one ah if no one can make it then no one ah (ppb), I I I don't know whether did did when I mean there was a period I had a maid, so I don't know whether, was there a period when my Filipino, maid went


K what about exams, (ppb)


which is projects, (ppb)


oh, oh, (ppb) (hmm)


do you think , for children right for for any children, of ours in future, will you okay I know you don't, don't want to them to have any tuition at all,


but does it extend to, tuition of any kind, and what about uh, enrichment classes, because it can be tuition for uh something that they are interested in you know like, I don't know


building robots or, programming or what, okay, or or maybe a foreign language you know


uh would you let them, I mean would you let them go for, anything and everything that they're interested in whatever the subject is and whatever the cost, oh (ppb), what about if it's something that doesn't seem to be useful or seems to be a waste of money


(ppb)


what about like things like drawing


ya but it's after he died (ppb),


, , ya, then any of the other topics, that you find you have something to share about


under student education, oh, oh okay exams, , no I I think some of it we can skip you know if it's not interesting, but okay exam wait wait wait the the only thing that uh the only exam that I look forward to right in


primary school, was English because I told you before I would always uh, often top not just the class, uh but the whole level, so it's like is a really is a really


a cool feel lah you know for people to tell tell me like !wah! Lynn you got first in the level again you know and it's always this guy and me, , uh fighting for first level is I I mean first level first first, uh, place first class no first place it's either


he's in first place or I'm in first place and then the other person, uh usually take second I think there was only once where he became third you know it was like !wow! such a shock, ya but , (ppc) that was only one, that I look forward to


and, English I think, uh, it's also something that I didn't study for, I think I would have been, really much better in it if I had paid attention, in class instead of reading a storybook under my desk


ya, then uh (ppb), actually for English, exam right which part do you like most, the composition the listening comprehension the, uh


comprehension, unseen questions or like, , which part, oh


, eh okay eh you know what, and you know my my composition right, I always will start out not knowing, I always want to have a interesting angle ah and I think sometimes my my English uh results were


propped up because uh I got, uh, pretty good, uh results for the composition part, so it's like, you know I always try to think of an interesting angle and then the story will just evolve as I go along and then sometimes I don't know where it will end it


and and you know like sometimes really rushing to finish, I I really I do wish though that, somehow that could have developed better and then you know by now I would have come up with a few uh storybooks and made as much money as Sophie Kinsella


books ya (ppb) (ppc), have you had any, uh what was your internship and industrial attachments like


or like if you have anything to say about those ah, none don't think so, ya,


what about you, anything interesting difficult, oh, if you have I want to hear it


, so how so you all you rescued them


and you still and you didn't get the credit, they didn't know that you wrote


the whole thing, so you you, they didn't know that that guy uh, what he did, didn't work at all


ah, ya I really hate those you know like people who


can't see the facts for what they are, ya


ya, ya, actually it would have been fairer if, uh (ppb), could have, if if let's say at you know like you you could have have an option to


to just like exit the group and do it on your own then it will be very clear already, (uh huh) ya (ppb), (ppc) ya so


, the the Ka-Chew or, Kee-Chew one right the group, ya they are simpler people right I mean as in they are like, maybe not so, articulate so, and all that but they are nicer lah


okay, then , (ppc) oh , my first attachment was to cisco, I think when I was seventeen or eighteen years old


and I remember that uh, I even remember the, name of my manager then uh starts with uh her name her initials are KS, she was thirty years old, think she was married, and at that time right when I was seventeen I thought thirty was like !wow!


uh or eighteen uh I thought like, !wah! thirty was like so old and, , and it's like , like you know like !wah! really, uh the manager was like really like the corporate communication manager like really like a career woman and really like has everything


, in control and all that and then the people that were reporting to her were like twenty something years old, and, now when I look back right I think like, oh, it's like


the older me, either same age as them now as as them at that time or older than them, uh it's it's such a different perspective lah and, oh, I I and and and that attachment also


there were times when uh people others right they will be late (ppb), uh going to work or they will take breaks you know lunch tea break and all that then because I was, I always insisted that I couldn't lie so


they told me that okay if the boss calls and ask for uh us just say uh they are not available or, uh something like that lah or or they're in conversation and all that or I think actually I think they asked me to lie


uh but I told them not not comfortable lying so when the manager called one day, and asked you know where is this person then I said oh uh that person uh is not available uh just stepped out then another person uh he also just stepped out, then (ppb) she went down one by one you know then she was like so where is everyone then then


then then then uh they, uh ya so so it's like I uh it kind of like put me in a spot lah then, uh I forgot how I got out of it and then another time when we had to go down for some event (ppc)


and uh we had to take taxi but because we cannot claim for me to take taxi and someone else to take taxi you see , and we were coming from different places so I was told to lie and, I think say like


I have to bring something down or whatever lah or, and and then I told I told uh my manager and said but I really can't lie so how then, I'm not sure how how it got through but it was like such a big thing for me you know


so stressful because, I I need that claim because otherwise I can't afford to pay uh that much like twenty thirty dollars, and also I I think I have to make the claim for for them as well but at the same time as a Christian I can't lie so uh


I think that was a scratch of face I'm not sure how I I got through it lah, ya, I think it's the, the first experiences lah in in life and in working world that that kind of stay with you longer


what about yours


, (ppb), ah


!aiyo!


, why, !aiyo!


!aiyo!, so did, oh, so did they pay did they pay you, did it, oh how much ah, oh (ppb), oh but you enjoyed that work lah


ah, oh were we together then, , then pupil age ah


, fired is as in they don't let you continue full time there lah


!huh!


why do they do that why don't they just keep keep those who were already with them


oh, it's like, giving themselves a buffer, !aiyo!, , oh (ppb)


oh ya I wasn't with you when you had chicken pox ah, but I didn't see like the scars leh any scars from the chicken pox, !aiyo!, were you grouchy


then how, oh


so you really did not drink Coffee, how many days


!aiyo!, oh, !aiyo!, oh, but actually if you really wanted to ah she I don't think she would say no if you say like no I really insist I don't even need, I don't want Coffee


then, then he will just, then she'll just be !aiyo! ah boy ah why you like that , oh, okay anyway


ya ya you're supposed to be sleep ya correct (ppb), so it's like three days is it, oh, !alamak!


!huh! unpaid, oh, oh okay obligation to the school is it


oh, , , K, then, okay pick pick something pick


no pick pick pick, pick an uh pick a topic that uh that you wanna talk about from, any of the remaining, !aiyo! (ppb), no you I thought you (ppb)


uh, what do you like to do in your free time (ppb), hobbies hobbies


ya what about if you had free time, real free time, oh, ya


ya, oh just imagine if you had free time, if you had real free time


(ppb) (ppb), okay if, if, for if I had like you know just free time I would like to read (ppb), read, all the things I wanna read,


catch up on uh self improvement books read novels, , watch, like some Chinese or Korean, uh dramas, and, try new recipes


do recipes, , learn I mean repick up sewing, go for pole dance class, uh go watch theater


(ppb) as in like those plays and musicals uh go traveling, ya, !aiyo!, okay what do you like to do to relax


and then , which part, what's your hobby and interest and which part of it engages you, interests you,


right it's something but it's something that you like to do also right, ,


, so what what part of your hobby, interests or engages you the end result, is it


, , , are there any exercises that you enjoy and why


(ppb), my hobby is being pleasured, , my hobby reading lor, reading last time when I was in primary school right oh ya another thing that I would uh


uh aim for, uh it's that I I thought that there was a cockroach in the machine you know, it's , the the you know there's a icon thing, from the side ah it look like cockroach , okay in primary school we were I think I was given my first library card and then we will also like


record like how many books we've borrowed and read in a year and I was also like, vying kind kind of not not really but you know, (Uh) you know like kind of vying to see it like who am I like, the one who read the most and all that ya I think I really do enjoy reading and


can just get lost in in it, uh but now I read more for information rather than , uh delight lah, uh like, in the past, you know all kinds of books that I would read


okay we got four minutes more so, what exercise do you enjoy and why, I thought you like swimming


(ppb), okay, is there any sport that you enjoy watching


, dance lor, ya


uh besides besides dance what kind kind of sport sport do you enjoy watching, , I, oh I I I I kind of enjoy watching uh okay maybe


it's more of movies lah the way they film it I enjoy watching uh basketball movies, it's always like so exciting, ya and then uh gym gym uh ice skating and gymnastics, is not bad as well


uh sprinting oh I like high jump because I was not bad in it last time, but I could always not do the back back jump it was just the front, ya, okay which question uh


art and culture okay, what about art and culture, you pick, okay you, ya


oh, legal thriller, up till last year you still enjoyed it right, (ppb)


ah


oh ya, oh or you can borrow you know on you just download the over drive App, and you can borrow that, ya okay let's let's end it here, ah cause it's five forty five ya okay


oh it's okay it's going to end so then I put down the phone, oh put on the table okay ya put on the table then come out with your, your sheet of paper


okay


hello dear b, okay,


okay now it's time to overcome your fears okay, on the left side I see a shop, did you see that, uh middle left, does it also say designer hat pins


yup okay, then we circle that, ya I have a marker, black marker you have to ask them for one


ya okay I heard that, okay, so uh the, the door says open does it say open for you, okay same, uh the window is like this uh plus across


blue colour bag uh, ground okay uh there are two bails of hay above the shop


ya, ya all capitals, okay uh there's a bush with two birds, oh , missing bird, ya is your bird on the top left or bottom right


, ah okay, I've identified the wrong bird


I have two birds here, one is the correct bird and the other must be the wrong bird, okay uh so uh there's this sign that says meet Sue and Ted


in the middle there there are two sheep, and beside the sheep pent there's a sign that says meet Sue and Ted, okay, okay there are two white ones they


the white ones look, like I'm not sure if they are sheeps or goats but they have horns lah, ya they are facing outwards okay and the pen is uh light brown in colour


uh there are another two grey dark grey sheep plus a small baby sheep you don't have that is it, ya


okay so is one big sheep instead of two big sheep okay I will circle that, uh, one two three four we have a total of four differences now yes, designer hat pins bird Sue and Ted and the sheep, okay uh the basketball hoop


uh ya it's it's facing to the right, diagonally to the right okay there is a boy, standing just below the basketball hoop


ya, long thing, a long thing, ya, ya, okay uh I have that too uh there is a girl playing with this small ball


oh okay I don't have that so I will circle the boy, and then uh the the girl has this uh, ball, okay and a striped shirt


yellow uh yes okay short uh mid length short black hair pink shoes okay, and a semi light brown in color, the girl okay a tractor, ya


there is a person raising his arms, yes, yes, yes, ya, okay uh there is a man beard and mustache and


uh, ya grey, and the saw on the table in front of the man, okay there is a barn the barn door is locked, or closed okay, uh there is a


there is the girl in a white top and, bluish pants, red no no no not white uh uh yellow light yellow top sorry


I have bluish pants, ya, ya correct you have black pants is it


both have a sheet of white is it, okay this one is different


, , , and brown pants, okay reddish brown pants the light pink shoes okay uh the on the floor there's a white colour blanket


ya, okay here another difference and then uh there's a, woman cutting some veg, it's a


it's a long green veg right on the chopping board, okay beside it I have a pear and a banana, okay no banana okay


one , apron and light blue top ya and then beside that there's a boy white top, curly hair light brown skin


ya, and the blue bowl, oh okay mine has no green beans, okay let me count ah one two three four five six seven eight nine three more okay


uh there's a sack that says potatoes, yes and, ya there's one more on the floor empty sack potato not potatoes ah okay


okay, okay two more we're doing well, uh okay so there's the fresh fruit and veg stall, ya, and light blue and dark blue light blue in front the birds are dark blue and then at the side there's curtain dark blue white table yes carrots


and a, ya, one two three ya I have four carrots too, ya, six ya correct, in this box thingy with a handle right okay I think that's correct okay there's this guy eating ice cream


is there a bee in front of him, ah okay there's a difference there, uh no no mine is is right in front of his face okay so there is going to be one last difference ah the rabbit


ya, ya, green and grey ya correct correct, okay so uh the rabbit is it uh does it say buy me, on the cage


no sign, white color rabbit on top there's no buy me lah, okay I think this is done,


okay according to, what I have circled it is twelve I think we are done, unless we make anything wrong ya, okay, done


I let you be, okay, you start, oh


I don't know because I don't remember my dreams, really I no uh okay I mean is it a literal dream or is it a a like


dream as in ambition or what, dream ah


actually I I I don't really know, ya I I don't think I really have an answer for this question I think (uh at, everything I I dream of uh is, still possible I guess


ya but but it's just very uh difficult, to attain, ya


oh, okay uh what is the most interesting thing, that you have seen on the Internet


I think, maybe maybe the okay cupid block, it's uh actually not really about okay cupid but it's very much about data science, so they discover a lot of, surprising, uh


information about human kind by aggregating all the, messages and stuff sent by okay cupid user and aggregating it uh and analyzing it, and then sometimes we get results that we knew all along and


or that we thought we knew all along and sometimes we get surprising results, like for example that uh, people who like the taste of beer tend to uh like to have causal sex, ya


, would you give up everything and uh ditch it off for a sail boat, , okay uh your turn, your turn


hard question because I can't think of what no longer exist since my childhood, (hmm)


ya you start first, ya


how come my childhood didn't seem so free I, let me see I guess I miss uh, maybe in a way the the first house my parents owned, the three room flat at block one five one Toa-Payoh because uh


like if we forgot to get something uh we could just like throw it down from upstairs because it was just from the second floor, and then uh there was this uh wooden beads curtain


in the kitchen that I like to run through, ya, no so so you know like there's this curtain that's made of wooden beads right, you've seen it before, ya ya so I like the feeling of walking through the wooden beads


ya, okay now it's my turn right to ask, okay what useless subject ended up being useful to you later in life


, I don't know maybe Bio in secondary school because, uh I did not like it and I did not see how it was useful to me when I didn't want to do anything to do with it but, I guess now it helps me to


teach you about certain things that you don't know about, ya , , okay your turn


uh uh, okay, I suppose I, I would, go out for a meal with you, and (hmm) I suppose uh


maybe I would go for a holiday, maybe I would just take a rest, ya, ya


maybe I would, go home and be with you, we are not supposed to talk about politics


is it pleasing to you, okay give your answer


how would I celebrate it ah, actually I think I rarely celebrate ya lah go out uh go out and eat something nice take a rest for awhile maybe, because it always seems that success always brings more work


it's always my perception, ya whatever it is that I am doing ya


I don't know I wish I could have lasting success that brought a reward that, that wouldn't be so elusive


okay my turn if you dropped everything to follow your dreams what would you risk, ya, yes


let's assume it's not lah


I guess I risk nothing because, uh, I am currently trying to achieve dream part one still, and, I don't think I risked very much, to give it a shot


ya, I mean I had nothing much to begin with, I didn't really have to give up a lot, I knew the cost and the upset which was basically the school fees and uh


ya I don't think I have really lost anything, your turn


!aiya! I think uh it's some uh measurement of length, I'm I'm very interested in mathematics, uh maybe uh, some other


dimensions, I mean not we've talked about linear maybe circular, and uh let me see what else uh, what other statistics


uh, statistics of uh, I don't know is there a way to measure, uh


passion feelings of uh, love and uh amount of uh, oxytocin and, uh vasopressin , ya, how often we have uh


hit the peaks , ya, okay your turn, ya, , all about you


can't think of anything at present


oh, what question would you ask if you were guaranteed an answer


okay, I guess I would, ask god, uh, dear Lord, what is the explanation for everything that I would ever, wish to have explained to me


small decision made a huge impact, oh I guess saying I do at the wedding, as in it's a small in terms of like duration of time and so on, ya


although of course there was very meticulous and extensive planning but it's like, one of those things like an astronaut stepping out onto the surface of the moon it's like, you just said I will, and uh that is


that is all there is to it and I guess uh your life is now, irreversible , perhaps in a good way, ya, ya, (mmhmm)


that is the intention lah ya, but even those people who believe in open in an open marriage might believe that the open marriage is for life right


I mean some of them might what that this person is always my, number one uh uh whatever it is you know even if there are others, but they will always be number two number three number four


ya big deal ya, and any others or my turn okay, what uncommon characteristic do you really appreciate in your friends


oh finished, okay, I think, I thought of whether I want to change my answer but in the end I still decided no uh I think it is a sense of adventure


because like, I think in this country especially uh, there might be some people who are risk takers but they don't, want to have an adventure for the sake of having an adventure, so like for example people like ray


I feel they are really rare like for example he can just uh, camp in the middle of an open field for no reason other than you know they just want to do it and, uh


oh oh I'm sorry ya, uh, ya and ya spontaneity I guess because it is, quite rare, ya


okay your turn


I don't know actually because different things make different people happy ah, I mean I guess the job would that would generate the most money is a job that finds out what makes other people happy, so that they can then go and


, search out whatever will really make them happy I guess, but of course the Christian answer maybe I don't know something like pastor or whatever lah , okay your turn


sounds like matchmaker, ya, okay uh so I think I'll make a lot of money by entertaining you, but oh only from you


okay my turn to ask right, what is a good argument for the other side of an issue that you feel strongly about, what is a good argument for the other side of an issue


that you feel strongly about


, correct


no politics, or maybe you can think of a counter argument for that phrase you just said everything is political


okay my turn is it, okay so uh I actually managed to think, of a, a, question that has made certain people stunned but it's a distinctly noncontroversial and non dialectical question, so uh and you probably won't understand it


which is uh whether to use tabs or spaces in, computer programming for indentation, so my position is to use tabs, because tabs you can always adjust the settings, to display how many uh equivalent spaces are equal to one tab


so if somebody prefers the tab to appear wider on their screen, then uh they can always uh, make it a wider setting if they want it to be a narrower setting they can set it to a narrower setting, and the other thing is also because uh in terms of the file size


tabs save space, uh it is only one byte instead of uh four bytes if you use four spaces, and I don't know why it's just a personal preference okay but the good and very practical argument for the other side


is strangely enough there's empirical research that shows that, programmers who use spaces, actually earn more money, ya and uh it's inexplicable why, but uh one uh hypothesis


was that uh programmers who uses spaces may be working in larger teams, where you can't afford to have different indentation settings, and uh uh they will have a standard uh uh, agreement like everybody will use four spaces that's the most common


and uh also, uh, spaces tend to be used in open source repositories and uh there is a, some research that shows that uh if you use, if uh that people who commit more to


to open source repositories, normally also interestingly enough, have higher paying jobs, ya


no as in people who who commit more to open source repositories commit as in it's it's a technical term, ya, it it is not commitment it's it's, ya it's it's a specific uh action on that you do on a computer, uh


so uh if people commit more to open source repositories apparently there's some correlation, to, uh, uh higher paying jobs so it appears that the people in the higher paying jobs are also more altruistic, and these people tend to use spaces but exactly why that is the case uh it's not clear yet


, okay your turn, ya half


what is the worst way ah, I, I don't know I think maybe speed dating, because you barely have enough time to


know the person yes you can always get to know the person better later on, but I feel that it's very superficial and it only uh favors extrovert, because often introverts take a a longer while to get warmed up and they may not be able to respond quickly enough and then they are written off by everybody else


ya so I think it's I I would go for speed dating, uh ya you're not and we didn't meet by speed dating, !huh!, what is the best way


uh, I I don't know any, I actually think uh okay cupid doesn't have to be okay cupid but any similar system that is based on personality, uh is definitely better than anything that is based on speed and


ya I think like like tinder is really really bad as well because it's superficial and it's only based on looks, I mean matches should be based on personality because in the long run that's really what matters


my turn uh get a new superpower decided by the person to your left what do you do with it, so I think I'm supposed to decide your superpower, uh okay let me


get a new superpower decided by the person decided to your left what do you do with it, uh, so okay I I will just pick a random superpower uh that you will uh be omniscient you will know everything that is to know


what do you do with it


no lah you choose lah, that's the how it's supposed to be


teleport lah, okay, what do I do with it, , I guess I would use it, to be at multiple places at the same time because although you


you still cannot be at multiple places at the same time but you can create that illusion by being like, at one place for one microsecond and then at one place at another so you kind of like flicker, ya so in that way I can uh I can always be with you and I can also do whatever I need to do in


wherever else ah ya at the same time ya, oh ya ya ya I have to make sure the flicker doesn't affect other things


the the the sensation of me flickering might be a bit different , ya , ya, yours right


into any object ah, can I just take it as another state of myself is uh, uh an object also, another state of myself lah, I mean that I can maybe I can already transform leh


I transform from, , from uh, I transform from normal into


uh, powerful but ready to serve, !aww! , what kind of object, I


I think I don't want to transform to anything else, ya, ya lor, ya but I I don't really want to transform into anything else leh


I just want to transform into something that can please you and satisfy you dear b, good answer, , okay


, ya


okay what kind of jobs would you do if you were shrunk to the size of a quarter, I think they they mean the US coin, quarter twenty five cents coin


ya, would you do not can you do


I go first ah, some sort of espionage I guess, I mean this is, spying work, ya cause I guess this is very convenient for that sort of thing you know you can hide yourself in some


capsule and, go somewhere else and uh, then uh, you'd be undetected, ya or or maybe I I could


be some kind of really really specialised doctor but then I'm afraid of blood so maybe not, like because you can just crow into the person's organ and do whatever surgery, and and you might save people's life


no but you'll probably save a lot people's life, yup okay your turn, ya would you do uh actually eh you're not limited to one it's jobs, plural


(ppc)


I guess, I would hybridize,


okay I mean I'm using the term animal, loosely because uh one thing that I'm gonna select is not, technically an animal in science lah, I would hybridize an Amoeba with a, dinosaur one of the largest dinosaurs


just to see like, what would happen, cause one is like a single celled, organism and the other one is so huge, ya, okay your turn


how's a mermaid an animal isn't it supposed to be like partly human, oh it depends lah do you consider humans animal


but aren't they sentient beings, I don't know whether you consider sentient beings to be animals lah but up to you, we just mentioning, cause we talked about this earlier today, ya


(uh huh), ya, okay sorry sorry I shouldn't have interrupted


, a genie gives you the address of your true love but they are on the other side of the world what do you do


I think the first thing that I do is that I check that uh it is you, so okay I am I am sure that it's you because if the genie gives me a different person, then I will tell the genie you have something wrong lah


ya and then uh, assuming it is you I will be asking you how come you went all the way to this place if I didn't already know, ya , ya and then uh, I guess uh maybe I will


ask you how I can go over to the other side to, meet you and serve you better, but knowing what we know we are married and so true love must be defined as you


, no lah true love is you lah, what trembling answer, oh


yes, what sounded awesome until I tried it, uh, actually I think it's food I think uh like, Mala always sounds awesome


but somehow like after I try it it's like not such a big deal, I I I I mean it always sound awesome to me before I tried because I'm always looking forward to it, but then after I eat it it's like either it's not a big deal or I have a stomachache which makes things worse, or it doesn't taste very nice like the one that Lacey brought us to


like the nine uh sections Mala, so it's, ya in the end it turn out to be not very special because we thought it was nine different kinds of soup but it wasn't


ya lah there were lah but I guess it's still not like as, cause you are looking forward to it for so long and then after that it turns out to be oh okay so that's all there is


please don't say it's me


I don't know


what is the strangest thing you have ever seen or experienced


strange ah let me think what is, what is strange, , I haven't had many strange experiences


maybe when diving then I saw the, the what is that sea cucumbers squirting some uh white liquid into the water, so that looked kind of odd


I have no idea what it was to this day, ya so it was just like squirting and squirting and squirting cause I, I knew that squids will squirt black ink but I didn't know sea cucumbers squirted something also, ya so ya, that was a bit a strange


oh ya


oh


okay your turn will be, eh, I asked you what what is the strangest thing you have ever seen or experienced, I'm not even mad


M A D, this question is so difficult


can I just say that I don't recall any such moment, I I don't think I have had this feeling before leh


okay my turn right, tell us about something your parents have done that you now realize is fairly unusual


I guess it was, having me twelve years after my youngest sister, which I think is uh, not the, not that common it's not very uncommon either but it is


sufficiently uncommon, but it's a if I mean it was something that they had done, but uh what they did was not, that they chose to have me ya that was done by god it's just that they had to do something else


okay next, this is hard, uh I don't think I ever really accomplished something that I thought would be so impossible before


I'm, difficult ah, uh, that means I I guess, I just think like whatever there is to do I will just


do it I will just start doing whatever is the first step that's taken and then after that there's the next step, and then after a while most things are, not very impossible I I guess it's like


uh, whatever I can retake you know if I fail I will just keep on retaking until I pass, so so far uh there are not too many things that, didn't give me a second chance although there are some, and uh if, whatever didn't give me a second chance


is really impossible I can't go back there ya so uh I have not achieved the impossible,


uh although I've heard the story before but it always sounds very painful and (ugh), okay what was your, I have to get out of here as soon as possible moment


I think it was when the side of my pants split open, when I just got up from the chair, and then uh my colleague noticed, and it was just very very embarrassing, and then I had to quickly dash out to buy some safety pins


ya of course I was embarrassed lah


what stupid antics have I done, I'm trying to think of, some, I don't think I'm proud of any stupid antics if I felt it was stupid I wouldn't be proud of it ya


ya,


(mmhmm)


, no I really think there's none, okay my turn if lives uh three, okay if life had an achievement system what would be some interesting achievements to get


, , ya


okay I think one of that is also to like do who does things first like to do something that nobody else has, done before like something that is very dissimilar, I think another thing maybe is that thing about happiness about uh being the happiness person happiest person because


uh, it's very strange uh like uh there was this guy, who was uh found to be the supposedly the happiest person in the US, because uh they hypothesized that the happiest person must be somebody very rare and must be a Chinese american


Jew uh living in Hawaii and they really found exactly one person who matched that description, so uh uh after he became, after after he was considered to be the, happiest person then uh a lot of people uh called him up


and uh asked him how did you be happy and it actually make him very pensive because he realize there were so many sad people around ya, , what else ya, uh and


ya I guess uh most uh representative person in the world maybe uh because I also read somewhere that uh, the most average person in the world will be a a most likely a person names Mohammad-Chen who is a roman catholic


and uh ya male because there are more males so I I was thinking that, it would be an an interesting achievement if somebody could like get that because like such a person is so rare, and and and you you don't think that such a person could exist because it's so contradictory


no as in like such a person would be the most average person uh in the whole world ya but I don't think such a person actually exist, because I don't I doubt there's a person called Muhammad-Chen whose religion is Muhammad Roman Catholicism


let me think for a bit


I guess I will, okay this is, I'm not even sure if this is technically right and I don't think maybe you will understand it, I would create a device


to allow two pheromones to be at the same place at the same time, so that for instance an object could pass through another object, no wait wait wait cancel cancel let's uh undo this I would uh create something that could answer the question to cat


which is that because uh uh what if you could, the problem with measuring things is that measuring anything also changes the thing that you are measuring


and this always happens so if I could solve this problem then we would be able to find out a lot more things


ya correct as in to do any measurement to something you must always affect that thing in some way so like, for example uh at at a very small level right like you can't measure like a light beam without


in some way changing that light beam or you can't measure like this molecule or this very tiny particle without changing that particle ya, so I would want to solve that problem


if you could have any unusual superpower what would it be


okay I would choose uh omnipotent, ya because if I if omnipotence is my superpower then I have all the superpowers, because omnipotence means I have the power to do anything what


so that includes all every other superpower right , okay your turn


animal, ah, real that means that animal must exist right that's all


uh the animal, is some, you can touch him, and uh, he makes you happy, you feel that you cannot do without him, !aww!


okay okay, uh, let me try to describe, an animal okay so uh


let's say a mosquito so uh when, you, you can't see it, but you will know when it happens because uh when it bites you uh it's very itchy and then you can feel this bump on your skin, uh and uh


ya if if you squeeze hard enough sometimes uh if it's uh, uh infected uh maybe some pus will, will come out you won't be able to see what it's like but you can feel that there's something gooey and disgusting coming out of your skin


ya and uh if you if you uh somehow managed to hit it while you are feeling the itchiness from it biting you, then uh you might feel some uh wetness uh on your palm from having killed it, that will probably be the blood that it sucked from you


okay ya


I think so ya, I thought they were black but nevermind, what would I know I'm a blind person


no in according to the question I'm a blind person ya


okay last question pick a character from fiction, and change one major aspect of their personality how would the story have changed, character from fiction and change one major aspect of their personality


how would the story have changed, ,


oh, so sad,


okay uh, I guess uh, I pick Elanor from, crazy rich Asians the film not the book, uh and uh I guess uh if she was not so


disagreeable to Rachel, uh then uh the story , might have changed because they would probably be allies so to speak, and then uh, maybe uh the real villain of the story will become Amanda


and then Amanda would have been the one to create some uh, uh, some sort of a investigation report to hand to the grandmother but then uh, because, Elanor would be on Rachel's side so maybe uh


instead Eleanor will go and defend Rachel, ya and then uh, uh I think the grandmother would be more confused uh instead of saying that uh, oh you uh uh you cannot marry this girl because uh, she will bring uh disgrace to the family uh she might have told Nick uh


she she might might have have had a hard time to decide what to tell Nick because she couldn't make up wouldn't be able to make up her mind as to, what is the truth, okay, the end


okay, you're not suppose to say out the languages okay bye


hello dear b, !huh! is it, oh mine is eighteen no wonder it's not that cold, it's okay lah I'm I'm still okay


put at twenty ah, okay so the first one is what CCA, so what C ah


oh okay, so uh I joined, boys brigade, and uh, the computer club, so uh, in boys brigade I was uh playing bagpipes


and I liked it quite a lot, and I uh also participated in a competition, and I won the third prize in Singapore, for playing bagpipes ya


I was sixteen I think, ya at the end of sec four, then uh, so so actually I won two medals at that competition one was the team event we got third, then I got an individual third also


then uh, one interesting thing was that uh because I played the bagpipes, so I think in sec two, I managed to get to go to Jakarta for a bagpiping competition, ya so it was very fun lah to uh be able to go overseas uh at that age


and uh, so uh, the other one was the computer club uh, in JC I was the president, and uh it was uh somehow very painful because I felt that there was some power struggles which detracted from


uh doing the real work, and I felt that uh, uh I I did okay I won uh two medals also but uh I remember that uh the, many years later I met uh somebody's son


who was also from, AJC and this person said that he just joined this uh, club because uh there's nothing to do, ya and then, he said he heard that and when I told him I used to win medals he said ya they heard that last time the seniors are very good


but now uh nobody uh does anything , so I I felt very sad about that, ya, programming competition, ya I I won a a few medals


ya it was a team but we won nothing, in that one uh the one that I won was a local competition


no we didn't because our band wore capes, ya I have never worn a cube before, capes capes it's like this this thing you know like you know Superman cape ya, ya, on the left shoulder ya


pants ya, okay what about you, oh I thought we were on CCA


okay I I I mean we might as well clear that lah, I never had any tuition enrichment classes uh I had piano, which I disliked greatly, uh I think it is because uh for piano, I don't know why I I was very bad at sight reading and I was very clumsy I think it is because of the need to play with uh


uh both hands at the same time whereas uh for the bagpipe it's only one, one Melody but uh you have uh Grace notes which you play very quickly so I enjoyed doing that a lot more, ya then


no I can play from hearing but I cannot play by sight reading, and I remember I was very angry in my grade six, why, why you laugh


, because uh I got merit, but uh the thing is I got uh I failed my sight reading I got I think four upon twenty one, so if I had just managed to pass the sight reading right, I would have uh gotten a distinction


and then I kept on failing the grade eight also because of the sight reading as well I always cannot pass, it's very bad ya, I don't know why the hand eye coordination cannot


it's okay as in the one that I have to learn and practice, it it it it's okay that I don't normally fail that but, I always get very very very low marks for the, sight reading and no matter how much the piano teacher tried to like put different pieces to make me practice uh new stuff so that I can sight read better but I always failed


okay uh okay let's clear the other two parent teacher meetings I I uh uh ya, oh you want to do CCA, ya


and, oral, play from hearing ya


that's not bad, , oh


!aiyo!


okay uh parent teacher meetings I think there's nothing much to talk about right and then uh


okay uh exams is uh oh okay what do you remember,


then who went for your parent teacher meeting, oh


exams, uh I really do not like exams, but, uh I think sometimes they are better than the alternatives, uh, ya correct, uh


ya I don't like exams primarily because, I have failed a lot of things many times before which was uh very expensive, and uh had very ya negative consequences, ya but uh sometimes even with the project you will also fail and you do very badly


so it's uh, like like I think uh in NUS uh they have uh only exams, as in most of the modules are only exams so they actually liked that system better but in SMU we had


every every module had exam plus presentation plus uh research paper, plus uh class participation, so you can never escape the exam, whereas in I think NUS like those modules where uh they have research paper they have no exam


ya so uh, ya, exams I I I don't like them at all, (ppc)


normally that's not referred to as tuition maybe that's an enrichment class lah, I mean I I I I would go by whatever the child wants to go for and I would never want to force the child to go for something


I mean if they are not interested in, academic results then so be it lah I mean uh that's life, ya


I think we it has to be subject to the budget ya because uh, this is about reality ah, ya depends because like a lot of things are actually useful and can reap finical rewards


almost anything can so I doubt anything will be a waste of money if if the person is good at it like for example sports I mean if your, kid can be an Olympics sportsman I mean I would certainly invest


I mean if they if they they can win the Olympics ya it may not uh, it may be difficult to pursue a career as a sportsman in Singapore but after a certain age they can leave this country and go somewhere else and pursue their sports career


ya it's it's it's it's definitely a potentially great uh I mean sorry to sound uh so shallow about, it but uh uh potentially great money spinner, I mean because we always hear of all the valuable art what then golf and all that then we watch the movie also and


ya but nowadays there are a lot of uh people who do very well uh even well in their life what, like uh ya so if if if they cannot uh pursue their interest in this country the problem is not them


the problem is not about conforming them to to to uh something that they uh do not like, the the point is to find some place where they can do what they like because that's a lot easier what, you know otherwise you waste the person's life you know


ya, let's just go on about it lah uh what is that you haven't talked about exams


okay so it's not interesting to you ya


I think I didn't really like the exams at all ya I never had these positive experiences of topping the whole level, ya


oh you don't want to go to Poly university courses first, you have nothing to say lah, nothing uh interesting or enjoyable


, okay, alright then okay internship uh the first !huh! what, no if you have nothing then I also skip lah then that makes things easier


what is interesting, I think it would be irritation only lah, I mean uh you know there was this module called software engineering, and I was very irritated because even though I had the ability but somehow this guy kind of manipulate the whole group to be against me


and he made the emphasis on I am not able to come for meetings when actually I am doing other things that are very important, ya and, uh, the fact that they met was completely useless because he met up with this other


girl to say uh let's do this work and you know follow some, rule or whatever but in the end the thing they created couldn't even work, it's just to check whether a tic tac toe game had had been won and they couldn't even get that perfect


so, no so I rewrote the whole thing alone, I practically wrote the whole App alone, and they still perceived that that guy was like such an important guy because he put the team together, which was completely useless


of course they knew that I wrote but that's where I felt that, eh my my technical skills were completely useless even though it was the primary reason why you could even pass, if I wasn't around everybody would fail


ya I told them it didn't work but of course they were also not very happy about that, because it's all about that guy being more popular and, and ya it it really made me made me feel that I lost faith in humanity, ya


no it it's it's like oh just because this person seems to be nice it's uh, you you forget that the only reason why you could even make it at all, is because this other person is pulling up the whole team because he he did all the technical stuff


without which you would fail because you have no working product


no but the whole point of this module is teamwork, ya, so at at least in the final year project I had a much better experience ah because, although it was the same thing I did all the code but they I I could tell that they appreciated what I did lah


ya , ah ya ya ya ya correct, ya correct


ya, okay so uh internship industrial attachments okay do you want to talk about it first


!aiyo! I'm so old now


I think the first uh internship I went for was at a, German firm, it was okay but it ended on a slightly bad note, because there was the issue of the pay calculation, the


and then there was also the issue that I sold him a few monitors that ended up being spoiled, and then in the end I had to refund him, ya so, that was not too good then second one was uh at a


another firm it was a it was a local firm, and the, it was a, mid size to big firm, and uh I remembered that I was told that I was, being uh put under the managing partner because I had just won second prize in a voting competition


but then uh it turned to be at the, lousiest person to follow because he was always not around and, busy with something else so in fact I never even saw him at all during the internship, and then uh


another place that I was at was an internship, for, uh at a shipping firm, uh and the during the internship I also applied to the same firm, and uh I didn't get anything uh which was uh very expected because I had a very bad attitude during this internship


I was not very motivated uh primarily because everybody was not happy with me because I was always late, so uh, (ppc), then uh for the


the information systems degree I had, a rather enjoyable self employed sort of internship, where uh I was uh, working for a game development start up, and uh it's uh the first time I was actually


working for someone else on a game it wasn't a hobby project, uh and the, uh I remember the the project manager who who was a professional game developer, uh he was quite skeptical about me at the start but then uh when he saw that I knew what I was doing


then uh he became quite respectful lah, so uh he was actually a somewhat older chap, I guess probably thirty plus, and he used to work for some big names in the industry like, Kowei you wouldn't have heard of them but they are a, pretty well known Japanese game development firm


ya, and so uh, uh, the sad thing about that was that uh if I'm not wrong, uh, after I left subsequently at some point, the game didn't work out and that company also closed down


(ppc), ah okay then the next one is pupilage uh ya they paid, they paid fully, I can't remember lah I mean a few hundred a month I think


about three months ya I I actually enjoyed what I was doing ya and I was very happy because I could, work from home and I just had to summit the clock my time ya, yes, ya


and then after that it was uh pupilage, where uh I was fired and it was not a pleasant experience to be fired, ya


ya but of course uh, we were sort of misled, because uh ten people were hired, just so that they could fire five of us, and it seems to be a trend uh for this firm because nowadays I hear that they are doing the same thing


ya so the previous year they had hired five people and they kicked out one person, so I think their point is they definitely want to have five head count so if they have to kick out five people, for various reasons then at least they have five people left


but if they have, ten people and actually nobody has done anything wrong, then they're free to pick the five whom they think are the best and kick out the other five, ya, correct


ya so uh, it was okay it was also a time when I had chicken pox, which was uh also a very uh unpleasant experience having chicken pox as an adult


ya, at at least you avoided a bad period, ya recovered totally lah, ya because my mother uh told me I was not allowed to drink coffee


ya and she said she would make uh Boh tea for me instead because we had a, uh we just went to Cameron Highlands the previous year, and uh we bought a large quantities of Boh Tea but uh it wasn't quite the same because


when you're used to coffee tea is not, uh, quite the same, ya for that period I didn't I was banned, and I couldn't escape that house and she was in the house too, ya which was a pain lah


for me, no when you're in that state you are in no state of mind to insist to anything


no I mean the the thing is that when you're in that state of mind you just !aiya! forget it lah just, drink tea actually I mean, it's okay to be sleepy for the whole day anyway because I don't have to work, but actually I was still asked to do work even though I was on MC


so I had to work from home plus at the end of it uh even after I was fired I was, told I I had to go back uh I wanted to go back to clear my obligation, so I had to go back for two weeks in December, just to clear the two weeks


uh it was paid lah, ya, because if I didn't clear the two weeks then I wouldn't have finish my pupilage and I cannot get called to the bar


okay you want jobs and careers food cars motorcycles


you choose to be you choose, you want to talk about jobs and career or food, I don't know anything is fine, where is that


is that even on the list oh ya hobbies, what do I like to do in my free time I think right now I work on the App, ya because uh, I'm really hoping that it'll make it big, ya and


it depends on whether one considers working on a, a project that is intended to hopefully be commercialised at some point in the future, as a, free time ya, because my free time is basically spent on


on trying to do something that hopefully will earn money, actually I no longer know what to do, I I mean of course there are some things that I will do, I will want to make you happy


ya but uh, uh, ya the sad thing is I no longer have real free time, it's been this way for a while


ya the the problem is that it's it's very difficult because everyday I, I mean it is work and then it is housework on the weekends, and then what little time I have left, I spend it working on my own project, which is also taking up a lot of time


an excessive amount and even that little bit of time is not enough, so not only do I have no free time I have a deficit of free time


I think sleep and uh to help you to relax as well


actually my hobby really is my project, I think I have to consider it my hobby because it's taking up all my free time, the interest is in, , it's something that I would like to create


the process is not something pleasant all the time I often find that there is a lot of wasted time, yes so, if I could I would want to create more things, but even creating one thing is taking up so much of my time


there are so many more things that I want to create and the, uh, number one limiting factor, is lack of time, I mean it it it it is never an issue about, lack of ability I think even for anyone because


ultimately ability is a function of time, if you have a a lot of time, then you will have a lot of time to become good at something to be able to get things done, and but the the problem is that often we are just packed to the gills


the whole day is spent on various things, the weekends are also expanded on various other things, and then, there is no time left, ya so it is not a lack of, creativity or ability that hampers the vast majority of people but simply the fact that


there is not enough time it's not even time management because, it's not as if by shuffling the time around you can have more time, in terms of absolute number of hours, you simply don't have that number of hours


ya I think it's the end result and seeing the growth, in the number of people using it ya that is what, uh interests that engages me, or even like to have that end product that actually work


ya, why don't you tell me about your hobby, uh ya


(mmhmm)


(mmhmm), click the next one, none uh I do not enjoy any exercise at all


but, uh, it depends lah it's okay ya, but I personally do not enjoy being active but I know it is necessary, among all the necessary evils swimming is the least to me, ya so uh


I run not because I like to run but because I have no choice but to do so, ya, what about you you haven't uh answered what exercises do you enjoy


I don't even enjoy that , , I I ah ya okay if that's a sport then I enjoy watching dance, I don't enjoy doing the dance, ya


I've not watched sports for a long time, I guess uh ya no longer very interested in watching sports


, , yup


, you want to talk about art and culture


I don't know what do you want to pick, let's start with genre of books lor, me first oh okay uh what genre of books did I like uh when I was a child I liked uh legal thrillers


ya so my favorite author was John Grisham, and uh it was uh, ya I I enjoyed the books very much now I no longer really enjoy legal thrillers, because I feel that uh my life is


(ppb) something like that but, ya but then it is not quite as exciting and you, ya actually up till last year still enjoyed it so now uh ya in in recent years it was more towards


uh modern day romance like Sophie Kinsella ya uh there was a point in time where I also liked uh, Victorian romance, ya uh because there always an element uh that is always not romance in the


in the book like for example there might something about a what a ship captain something like that and uh, it it it I mean the way they described the that previous age was uh, quite interesting and the way they describe the things like ships and wooden decks and what not and


and like how society was like and always gossiping ah so that was that was the interesting bit for me, and uh ya for modern day romance what's there not to like about Sophie Kinsella and uh, I think crazy rich Asians also qualifies as modern day romance although I haven't read the book but I read part of rich people problems ya


ya ya now I can borrow it, okay your turn will be, finished, oh it's five forty three on my watch oh okay but the computer says five forty five


so I will just put it on the table ah


hello, okay, okay wait uh


wait do you have a photo in front of you, like a picture just, a beach, but so you only have one photo, I think you describe everything until they find it


I I only have one picture right, I guess you need to find what's the difference, ya how many pieces does yours have


I think so ya but it's okay, ya are the one on the top and the one on the arm right, ya (ppb), look at the shop, fishing right a person fishing with the hat


brown greenish dark green, ya, there's a shop how many like necklaces are there, seashell seashell necklace from the roof


necklace lah, back wait, wait wait wait what I wait I I see three seashell necklaces hanging from the roof do you see that, ya, but I have two on the left and one on the right


okay and then I will on you see two rackets like tennis nets and then two socks, have two socks, tennis balls I don't see any balls and I don't see any socks


I don't yeah I see no balls and no socks only two socks only two socks, no, two more so three, I don't uh no only you circling I don't have any marker you circling for both of us


okay so that's three so we need to find seven more, ya box of rackets right, one two, ed, think three we have I can't really see what we have okay ya anything below the table ya at the table ya green shirt blue pants


okay, ya, ya ya ya


, I guess now the smoothie stands, June hello, ya so now the smoothie stand how, the smoothie stand


is everything do you see one blender on the table, uh I only see a blender, ya ya


and then it says peaches, ya it is peaches okay, so it's, and a plant and a what, uh I only see peaches I only see a peach sliced in two


okay uh the one night only what does it say, the ya one night only mine said one night only, ya, ya so the one night only love shack okay that's still the same it ya then the


oh mine's different mine on the top says one night only, okay, ya I see two red flags and two blue flags


red bucket and shovel right ya, ya with ya with the garbage coming out and the sign says north beach pointing to the right


ya so it's north beach, ya do you see the sign, N O R T H S and N O R T H, oh okay, okay and then above the rocks the sea you got a seagull on the rocks