then they take uh half lah half month ah like uh ya, (ppc), half month lah ya sometime sometime the tenant but my tenant told me what the one tenant don't want to pay he don't want to recommend, right but, oh but my but my but my but no but my tenant ah


problem ah you shift right you got problem, because twelve hour air con who give you, twelve hour is is a lot you know twelve ten nine to nine you know, now the electricity go out for so many rounds you know did you know that


!aiya!, one pocket put into another pocket only lah like like like like the the telecom like that lah


like like the M one ah Singtel lah, right and then cheaper right and then next time when when they have a when they have a, uh, what, electric cut off ah we got problem eh, ya


they they they want to they want to commercialise lah, is it, alright, of course lah because they promote mah propaganda mah, correct


but at the end of the day you save some lah I would say that lah because we go for the beginning mah, long term eh they and then long term we don't know and then secondly is whatever they do thing funny thing we still don't know, funny thing like


like, like abang adik lah, you know what I mean or not funny thing, abang adik later on you tell me ah outside you tell me you remind me


(ppc), !huh!, what do you think about me lah now I talk like that


!huh!, ah that's all not not argumentative lah hor, but this is this kind of thing ah I don't know what they are doing lah just now just now just now I ask them you see


like, more or less like


oh, they actually they are the agent you know they they just do for the some company you know, ya they are not the company they are doing some some company ask them to do the research then they they the the company pay them, ah they are these people are the agent


(ppc), ah they do research, !huh!, what is that, Winnie no Winnie is the like a a stuff like that lah, ah they in charge the in charge this this uh project lah


they in charge ah not only one ah I think they about a few of them in charge this project ah, and then the a company pay to pay to them pay to their company then they in charge this project, and then make and and make sure that this project successful ah


, successful meaning got people attend lah no people attend they are Jialat lah , ah, !huh!, I I shop for supplement ah, every month I must shop for supplement I'm a member of Malaluka


supplement I am a member of this a submit, submit is a is a mattress you know, the the kind of garment ah you wear ah for for health reasons ah, I'm a member of placenta also


placenta is a health food also, I spend about at least about, two hundred plus minus ah, helpful


that's why I keep so young you see, , I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I thought I tell you what lah lie also very hard to say lah I would like I would lah if I go just go like that fast better


you know what I mean or not, if not then don't drag don't drag your sickness !wah! damn Jialat lah, of course lah not up to me


(ppc), no I tell you what lah that's why ah I straight away got the answer for you, when my daughter that time ah the the my my daughter is a the that time I don't know how come my late wife ah came to came to know about this teacher


tutor this tutor this tutor also day time teacher, and this tutor this teacher I think Missus Lee by the name of Missus Lee, he also she also tution Edmund Lee Edmund Cheng ah Edmund Cheng you know the actor


actor ah he also he tutor Edmund Cheng and then he also tutor when Lee-Hsien Lee-Hsien-Loong or what young, he also tutor them and then he say what know if no stress ah you can't learn anything


never mind we stress we working also also got stress, right, now I also have stress what, I swear that I swear that if I sick ah I cannot move around I staying alone you know


my worry ah, you see that's why I say if you want to go just go out like that, ah right, then if I can't, sorry, no lah she stay on she stay with the family lah of course lah she got help me lah but I try to minimize the thing ah


correct, I try to minimize ah she say you want to bought the landed property then stay together ah I say next time then talk lah, right staying together also got problem because no freedom


now I got freedom what I stay on my own, is it but I'm blessed lah, I'm blessed that I can afford, ya lah, then you don't have CPF ah I got CPF know but until two three years or three four years time gone no more already ah


I I still collected seven hundred fifty per month know, ah, I got CPF ah I got I got uh tenant money lah uh thousand plus already


oh, oh ya ya you are under sixty five you under sixty five then how much you can take out I think, ah ya lah that's why lah under sixty five Jialat [liao] they will, Hokkien


oh right I don't Hokkien meh must like sixty five meh, my time not not fifty five my time I think about sixty two ah, sixty two ya


!wah! Jialat, ah, oh ask ask you to top up again ah, but honestly but honestly speaking ah if uh let's say I got extra cash ah I will have to top up then every month I can get another seven fifty already


you know what I mean or not if I can top up ten thousand ah I can at least about two three years what, correct also good what, then you ten thousand Hokkien very fast finish you know, right, then you you it's psychologically ah you put there ah you top up ten thousand right then every month can get another seven hundred and fifty seven


ah so so you feel that, more comfortable lah, things like that,


uh, can swim to exercise not say can swim well I learn on my own ah I learn on my own, ah, I I see people do then I just follow [loh]


no last time last time when I was at the I stay West coast ah I stay I I Clementi swimming pool ah, then after that I shifted to #Choa-Chu-Kang ah the NS lah the the, the


the civil defend ah, Bukit-Batok there, !wah! that one softer already okay already ah, ya why you talk so soft ah I can't hear, ah no nearer to the phone nearer to the ear


ya ya primary one or primary two lah


I don't think it's a good idea also lah, ah maybe maybe they want to please the parent ah, right because you don't get you you don't get you to exam you care less mah, so this is the training primary one primary two is the training


but don't take exam so serious lah one thing, !wah! that means this fella don't do well this fella hopeless already no don't tell it that way, yes


oh yes of course of course of course, of course you see all the all the minister ah all come from RI all the good school,


but better school but better school got got standard you know not easy you know, like like Saint Joseph ah, my daughter want to put the son to Saint Joseph very hard to go in, don't talk about ACS or RI


St Joseph also very hard to go in, last time in a in A, I don't know when ah they they they donate money can go in ah now cannot, now cannot


now also cannot, uh everybody can do volunteer, correct, but this this is not sincere you see, , uh got motive now cannot ah I heard


what kind of volunteer work, I will I will never do this, collecting fund ah like I will I will help I will never do that because, volunteer work is


I see I see what is needed lah I don't really, people want I just go in no no, I don't do that, who


ya they are paid they're paid they're paid they're paid, but my my my friend uh uh uh got one guy visited my house, then turn turn turn turn into friend, I also got his phone he ask me to join PG you got nothing to do you so fit


and then you go and join I say no lah enough lah he say I say they they one case ten dollar, one case, you want you want I ask uh I I I ask Leman I ask Leman


I ask lament, I later I I I come up with you I call him then you talk to him lah, ah better lah like that better than you go you go direct to him, but he ask me to join I'm not interested


one case one case !huh!, (ppc) !aiay!, if you if you if you are Hokkien you can can already now is not a need or don't need ah right, correct or not


now, !huh!, I don't know whether got it but but I don't like office they they have a but he staying in this Aljunied, Macpherson he stay at Macpherson he come to my place, and then they they one person in charge of few few


few senior ah like that list lah there's a list, I say you don't make appointment I say you don't uh some senior very arrogant you know some senior very hard to deal with you know, appointment they when they appointment when they are not around you know they told me that lah


then sometime they come to my house not around they leave the paper, they left a message, sorry, uh uh they no no both sometime two male sometime two female also they are they come in two they come in two correct


no this type of thing is prevent trouble, prevent trouble then got witness mah, ah, don't know day time they have day time I don't know up to you lah up to you lah because the if the if the old old people ah


senior at night and in then you have to come at night lor, then one one case ten dollar lah, ah, then will case Bo lor Bo lor, and then the the police also know part time police, I heard lah I heard lah I heard lah weekday weekday fifty dollar weekend hundred


(ppc), the the the police lah but you cannot carry gun lah, no gun allowed lah, uh like like walk around lah like like like patrol patrolling ah


oh no you think kind of thing you must practice and then if if if you have a background in a in a security better lah, let's say you let's say last time you are in a police NS you're in a police or army better lah


but of course lah police must be physically fit ah, I don't know about pioneer, I don't know about pioneer, ah ya


art and culture, art connected to culture mah, ,


now lah I usually watch news lah, news and musical show lah usually lah but seldom have musical show leh TV


American American got talent American idol all that right, oh, that one I I I I I, uh, I that one I I didn't watch ah, (ppc)


got every every Friday ah, oh afternoon ah afternoon no lah afternoon I out already, ah, everyday I go out otherwise become senile man you see the four wall,


correct you don't you don't go out everyday ah, but you are you are not eligible to buy the senior card right or not, ah but ya eh, sixty sixty sixty sixty and above I bought the sixty dollar ah


I travel every where, cheap ah one day two dollar ah, ah, just now I travel MRT almost two dollar already what, right after I go back MRT more than two dollar already


MRT two dollar right or ninety something over dollar, I know I know, I know I can buy you see ah that kind of confession ah bus only also have, MRT also have


MRT only cannot take bus take bus you pay and than bus you cannot take MRT but my my card is bus and MRT, but not not express know express bus I have to pay, all sort of funny rules ah, sometimes confuse you know you know why


how much ah by the way one MRT when you, minimum, for you ah, therefore seniors I think cheaper right


what, concession card you must sixty and above then have, so once you are sixty they will send to you the card


they send to you the card then you apply, oh very fast lah, very fast lah you go to the counter they give you already, there's a MRT there's a counter right


mostly lah if they if they don't have a counter you go to the reception there, online long lah you know what I mean, ah Bo Hokkien ah (ppc)


then, you talk to me the Hokkien louder I talk to you


parrot, they no not all can afford also lah but sometimes but sometimes our cost is very high you know


let's say uh you got one kid ah, you you husband and wive earn five thousand ah, also very hard to pass you know, five thousand you minus tax minus transport minus food, minus bill


ah they only depend on the bonus you know, uh uh uh uh you know what I mean or not, that's why a lot a lot of report in the paper you did you didn't read you know on the paper


this people ah must at least earn so much so much then can afford to retire, so once retire ah they they must at least ah one month about two to three thousand, is it, then no you three two three two let's say two thousand two thousand you have to pay PUB you have to pay conservative charges


you then then sick then you you you sick then you you uh transport, then your food, let's say I eat three meal outside ah one day about at least about ten dollars plus minus you know, three meal


correct like that will cost about three hundred already you know one month at minimum you know, food only you know food only, then you no need, then you no need eat fruits ah then you no need eat supplements ah then then


correct or wrong then you can you can okay you eat normal food then how about your about your, calcium all that this this is not the luxury you know, this is a compulsory you know you see outside people walk the leg very white right, they don't calcium do you eat calcium or not


ah because the leg pain they keep on walking far far away eh, then the, the the ya ya I I can't hear clearly I can't hear clearly


the front not enough ah, you see but of course lah first of all, first of all when I was young you know, don't depend on government first lah, you you know what I mean anot


do what you can ah, right, that is that is also very wrong those people the mindset also very wrong, everything government government, right, government Hokkien


correct ya, no that is extra what government say that this Hokkien extra lah you know Hokkien you know what I mean or not, wait


oh then then nothing much you can do what you know what I mean or not ah, you see do do you know when I shifted to to Eunos Crescent ah, oh at first I cannot can't can't take it know the people there the thinking very low very like to gossip


you know what I mean anot, like to gossip like to care on other people problem and then they are they are they are now now my my opposite block ah, old old man or old woman like to look into my my flat you know, so I like I close window I don't have I close every time my window and my door open


so every time I either close one door close the door or close the window, I don't like them and then they got nothing to do like to care about other people's business, and then I look at I I I look at them you know I went went to their flat you know their house all ah


your house my house everytime open you know the door and the window, you see, not board one is mine is the common corridor lah, common corridor, you know what I mean you know what I mean or not so Hokkien


you know what I mean anot, that that's why and then then you say and then I look at them uh Bo aircon, but these are the people lah, you know, ah when they young they can't think so when they old they all have problem


and then ask blame government this blame government that, I think much older than me, ah much older than me it it's when you old you too complacent, when you're complacent and you're old you're in trouble


right, (ppc), when I work I I believe they have a children what right, I believe they have children what right then whatever now happen you you must plan and then of course then at the end of the day it's fate ah fated lah I won't dare to


say that all plan can be go through, can can be can be can be accurate is it, right but do but from the way they they behave, you know lah must be very, busybody went to town ah with their basket upside down lah


that kind of thing lah that kind of thinking lah, , not it's not too many shopping center it's the repeated


goods, repeated Watsons everywhere, I go Watsons here I don't need go elsewhere already, Guardian everywhere, ah this is repeated no good, but the rental is too high rental is too high


rental is too high then you need you need people big company like Watsons to fill up the space, because otherwise the the the shopping nobody, empty, is it


sorry I can't hear you your you talk sometime your talk, ah (mmhmm), definitely no good, become monopolize


(ppc), cheaper now can be cheaper without without without buying over, !wah!, this is their excuse lah, right


right you see some people do you know that certain thing are cheaper than NTUC, ah, correct and then do you know that NTUC use my money to to open, because I was a union I was a union I paid union subscription fees mah


no last time lah I been union for for about nineteen seventy for seventy two or seventy four aunt until, about at least about thirty five years lah, last time


if, you know, you join I join that kind of thing lah then if you if you don't join, if you don't join, somewhere or rather you will be afraid that, you know you're being isolated


you see, right and then, government encouragement also to join union because easy for them to control, is it, forty three years


ah, you see so they use my money to to open the the NTUC but, do I get special no, you see the CEO of any accompany go into the NTUC buy the same price as me what


right, so so what do I they have different, no, ya lah this is quite open what this ah, ah the the the the Hsien-Loong some some uh son daughter in law or something like that lah


quite open ah this one everybody knows ah, Sheng-Siong of course Sheng-Siong oh they're very generous you know, you see their Sheng-Siong show on TV like


ah you know what I mean they're very generous, right, I can't hear you again


and do do you think pay well, don't pay well I I I quarrel with one staff what, they they they maybe their salary their part time ah based on hourly ah, so maybe they're not happy not happy they


push you around, push you around meaning meaning sometime, they want to close the counter, they just tell you ah want to close that kind of thing then sometime, the the card the system


they don't know they anyhow say, ah, actually can they say cannot, that kind of thing you see, so I was so fed up, ah I say I say, either ah ah last time you want


ah old people you say no job now the government give you job you behave like that, you see, many many and then instance shoot her now she can recognise me very well


sorry marine Parade, ah marine Parade NTUC you know very small ah don't go there, marine Parade, you see that's why I'm I'm very vocal because we do nothing wrong why you scared, Singapore brain must be you know must be


must brave enough to speak up for for the good of the country, right you correct this kind of people this kind of people are nuisance you don't correct them, right


no this thing is every family they're responsible what, let's say I old my children have to responsible for me mah, correct, and then some people old in front of you they pretend very slow but but overcut you they very fast


ah I experienced that, some people old going into the bus they still want to select the seat, got seat you seat lah why you select the seat wait the bus moving you you fall down, correct


I observe this kind of thing many things you know and then some then I you see ah I also old what I sixty six what, so I sit on the reserve seat some people old I don't know whether they are the the the exceptionally old or what lah like, they sit in front or they stand in front of me I don't give way to them !wah! they angry


right, uh this uh this sort of thing I experience you know my personal life experience know, right, then oh even though you are younger lah I can be sick also what why must I give you way to sit


right if I stand I might get fainted what right so I need to sit what, so how can you get angry, and then some people may most most old people they give them seat ah, they like its a must you know no thank you


its a must you know no thank you and then sometimes foreigner give me seat you know, I foreigner or whoever give me seat hor I thank thank them many time and then before I I leave the MRT ah I thank them again, is it to to show that I I appreciate you have done for me


right, this is caring, ah, again your voice very soft


ya lor that's why lah, , (ppc), no meal if meal can can another half hour know never mind, , I actually we treat we treat it as fun lah


ah after all we also spend two three hour outside also, you know also pass what, ah after take this money go and spend makan lah, (ppc), I belanja you lah the the the lontong lah


no no jobs ah honestly speaking ah you know those charity outside right, they're so many charity ah I'm sick of it, right everybody go for charity and then some family that one have you heard of us uh say everywhere everywhere your charity ah how come I never heard about you


then ah you ask for charity I say I retire I want money in not money out, uh I say you young man ah come on build up your career man, right, the charity you you collect collected then all this money go where


CEO first right, the CEO also highly paid, then is it charity, right I said go and build up your career that's important your parent never teach you ah, then after this people don't build a career when they old they they need government all that this are the this are the cycle lah


correct, ah so you must understand why these people become like that because when they young they are like like do something, irrelevant ah to their career to their to their future lah, right


don't have Iron bowl you do differently last time got Iron bowl we do this now don't have Iron we are do differently now this nowadays a lot of computers what, my age you go and learn computer different what different age different different expectation different demand what


so you must adapt to the situation, that's why those people who cannot adapt you have have to left while being left out


ah, very what, okay finish already finish already


okay already [ah]


hello, okay Rahimah I'm here, so we have to uh do this spot the difference, challenge rather okay basically I assume you get a picture and I get a picture


so basically we do not know uh what are the difference lah cause it's not comparable right next to each other right, so that's where she was explaining to us where we have to start, uh simultaneously and know what we are looking at together


okay ya where do you want to start you want to start at the bar, that's a nice place to start don't get drunk K, okay come, okay the bar what do you see I see


there okay the door on my end I can actually see a window, a see through window which is uh a circular shape a a round shape and then there's a, there's a sign that says push do you see the same thing


so your your door is empty, ah okay so I, sign, okay great so that's one so you circle that area mine is just below the circular window


just below it and it's a rectangular sign with the word push in the middle ya that's all, right you circle that too, so that's the first one K there is a list right, next to uh the the bar counter rather


uh and then the list says wine list the first one is rose and the second one is peach, ah okay so that's our second difference I guess


okay that's two, and then on the bar counter I have two bottles which looks like a ketchup bottle and the other one probably a mustard bottle, so it's red and yellow do you have that too


and then towards the left uh will be uh something that look like a ya a skillet or ladle I don't know, so that's fine how many do you have, ah ya I have two I I have two as well


okay okay great and then the word bar is uh written in uh capital B small letter A and small letter R is yours the same, okay so let's proceed to the top left top of the picture


ah yes I forgot about the rubbish dump come let's do that, yup, okay so uh there's two on my end


my picture has two and, for whatever reason uh the first one that is leaning against the wall of the bar, the first rubbish bin I only have one black wheel and the other one is actually uh brown or nude in colour


overflow with build-up so you see the same thing as well ah okay so I think it should be the same on my end as well, that's alright do you do you have anything else


ah ya that one is uh on the the one that's leaning against the wall, that one cannot be closed the second one is nicely shut, wall


ya, ya, oh the next one is also mine is shut mine is shut, ya I guess that's the third difference lah, okay done, okay and then uh anything okay behind the bar right you can actually see a little of the sea


is it empty or do you have anything on there mine is empty just basically the sand and the sea okay lah empty so uh, lies can be said right , okay now uh left hand side of the picture there's a fisherman


or a man fishing with the rod, there that goes into sea lah uh your what colour is your man uh I my my man is wearing a hat, and the colour is green light green is yours the same


he is also wearing a nude colour jacket and a somewhat navy green colour khaki pants khaki pants correct correct, and a black shoe ya ya I see a shark fin in the distance do you have that as well


I have two seagulls white seagulls flying (ppb) and three, what look like a piranha fish three of them in green, also okay okay then to the left hand side of the man it's actually two sign


one rectangular for both one is bigger than the other the bigger one is uh green with an black arrow pointing to the left, okay and then there the smaller rectangular sign that said that is in red that says


paul and joe's diving school is that what you have, okay so that's our fourth difference, okay the green is the green is just a an arrow a black arrow pointing to the left


ah mine is just a black arrow, okay ya fifth one two three four five ya correct, okay, joe's food shack


yours is just the food shack, okay so that's our sixth difference, and then uh anything on the roof anything on your roof


okay and then I have, okay I have one two three four five six seven eight nine window panes, okay there I have two doors, uh two two doors I mean uh uh uh well uh uh basically side to side lah the door the openings


ah ones that look like in the hospital you know when there's an ER you can actually push ya that kind of door, and then with a rectangular a long uh pane on top of the doors just above it correct, okay alright then uh


uh mine is a, no not orange uh ya yellow rather mustard colour, orange ah I wouldn't I don't know K orange is okay I tell you we we we KIV the orange part see if we number twelve then that could be it (ppb)


okay then just below the food shack there is a there is a uh stand, sign stand that says local shellfish


K that's our seventh difference, okay so let's proceed to there are two couples, in my picture uh one is a young couple the other one is the older couple, okay the older couple uh the okay let's describe the older couple uh there is a white colour radio uh


on the right hand side of the old man, okay the old man is actually wearing uh red socks, with a no are yours wearing socks


mine is wearing red socks with open toe sandals, without the socks okay mine wearing red socks red centres yeah, ah ya anything else on the man basically the man for me he's just wearing those and a pair of blue


pants shorts rather ya, semi bald yes, unlike my husband K now uh then the the lady right next to the man, is reading a book


uh the book has a little, green creature on it, ya so I think they reading the same story ah and the lady is wearing, what look like a pink colour swimsuit with one two three four five flowers on it


red colour, red colour flowers, okay and then she's wearing red slippers with no other footwear just that okay , uh she's wearing glasses yes she is


ya curly hair, ya ya, the younger couple


okay the lazy chair is blue and orange ya ya, ya the younger couple, they are having uh red wine


with two bottle with two glasses filled with red wine, ya is yours filled with red wine as well, okay, the guy is wearing a blue a a pair of blue sneakers


he's missing one sock on my end, ya, he's missing one sock on my end uh okay and then uh she he's wearing a pair of shades, uh okay the lady is wearing


a pair of slippers that's it with blue, the spaghetti strap ya top correct that's all that's can be seen so I think, ya brown hair ya


okay


yes mine is also blue and white, with nothing at the bottom basically just the umbrella and the stand, beach chair, wooden beach chair with red and white


fabric on, okay, and then behind that chair there sorry


no I don't have any sign there, nope I don't have any sign, so uh I guess it's on the bottom right most of the paper next to the chair


right right, right okay [orh] okay between okay got it so I will circle that that's our eighth different


she is sitting on it, okay mine is just holding on to it standing right next to it, okay mine is so that's our ninth different is she wearing a hat, like a straw hat kinda look right


ah ya ya, that sound like that's what I have too but she's not she's not sitting on the ball for me mine is uh, standing right next to the holding on to the ball okay and then there's a seesaw, uh my seesaw is empty no one is sitting on the seesaw


on each end, so each end has one ball right


so one two, uh anything else because uh I think one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve eh we have twelve already, seven eight nine ten eleven twelve ya


can you count and confirm, correct, right I think that's it we are good man intelligent hear that intelligent K don't hang up just put at the side then we can leave the room I think


okay K see you in a bit alright


hello, okay now it's about uh seventeen minutes on my on my clock, as in my stopwatch here so one hour would be what, seventeen plus sixty seventy seven so I we we we have to at least talk till the time the


timer clock seventy seven minutes, so ya ya so ya thank you alright so what do you want to talk about, get a new superpower decided by the, a superpower decided by the person to your left what do you do it with


I don't think I want to talk about superpower lah cause it's so, not real so fictional I don't have if I have superpower I won't be here people, okay, okay I have a question which of your possessions holds the most sentimental value to you


jewellery ya, I think you told me this before I remember you telling me this before okay okay that's nice, right right


children one of your girls, I'm sure it reminds you of good times and hard times to help hard times would be probably to help you to stay grounded and you know


I guess so I don't know, ya, (uh huh) yes yes yes, I agree I agree I think it is uh I think it's very uh important to have uh, uh sentimental possessions like that lah


unfortunately for me I don't have, I don't have any uh apa sentimental value, I don't possess anything that sentimental any any material that holds any sentimental value unfortunately I don't have, I don't have lah I just don't have


yes yes yes yes of course moments definitely but that's in my head lah in my mind I I don't have it as a a , uh in in material form I don't have but


but definitely lots of moments that's uh or has a lot of sentimental value memories, oh you keep it you just keep it


never !huh!, ya very cliche


that often ah okay okay okay I understand I understand I am someone who doesn't like to wear jewellery as well, if you notice my my bangle is gone my chain is gone on my hand, it's kept inside the cupboard


ya I don't like it okay uh do you why don't you read from one of your cards and then we can, can talk, what's the what, surprise


uh okay, (hmm) best surprise ah surprise ah surprise let me see let me think, we were actually talking about my husband on the on our way here right when we made our way here


uh he is a, he doesn't seem on the surface uh he don't he don't seem to look like someone who's very romantic or sentimental, but uh throughout our uh marriage uh from two thousand


three onwards uh I always get surprises which I never do from my previous marriage and also I never do from, whatever lah the other relationship that I used to have ya but he never fail never fail for the first five years of our marriage


so nothing best ah but collectively for five years he he he will always surprise me with, flowers or gifts in form of chocolates or what on every birthday valentine's day and anniversary


so for five years three times a year uh I will receive flowers or chocolates to my office, five times three that will be fifteen uh fifteen times I received flowers and, ~olates to my office and that's it on the sixth year it stopped until now I get nothing


I think it's time to remind him ah when I go back later


so you are like you you are like rachel from the from the sitcom friends ah, she'll get the present she say [orh] thank you and then change it for credit, !aiyaya!


uh okay, won't go well nothing nothing nothing ever surprise you


ah okay okay okay ya ya to each his own it's fine it's fine, okay, anything else, or you wanna ask or I wanna ask actually let's get let's go through the cards ah let's go through the cards and actually find something that's very


interesting to talk to rather than you know talking for the sake of talking I think it's it's you know it's not nice like that I don't know, okay okay okay K then you shoot you shoot go ahead


hundred years from now, to be honest ah I don't think I'll ever wake up that's for now, especially based on the my family uh death pattern right at sixty sixty five they are done


so I have about approximately thirty years to work on probably the hundred years don't have


[orh] okay, uh, let me see hundred years ah, right right right right but they just want to know okay


the dates ah serious ah I don't know if I were to wake up, and I have to google something would be, that's why okay no okay K let's let's really okay if really google is still available after a hundred years from now


I would probably google what are the things I've missed for a hundred years lah, I guess so I feel that's the only thing to google what otherwise, ya based on the, you know based on the rate I'm going at with google I literally google everything these days


so I ya everybody does that everybody does that everybody says ask ask google, I don't know what's your perception there were I was listening to class ninety five this morning, and then they say uh our the muttons show the justin and vernon show


uh they were they they they came up with this one of them one of the muttons actually mentioned this, google makes us stupid do you agree, I don't think so you know we become more intelligent what you agree


lazy I lazy I agree stupid I don't think so why stupid when you google you, absorb information what whatever you read, look it up like do research


but in this new era you don't have time, google is the fastest way you want to go to the library you take like what one hour we come here we took one and a half hour to travel


K lah K lah K next next next so what's the other one, K I got under creative get two words from the people around you your superhero name !wah! god I don't want talk about that, how would you design the most fun house in the world never mind if you had three wishes


eh let's do this if you had three wishes what would you wish for, please go ahead, my friend knock yourself out, okay go ahead go ahead


really, okay and and and these wishes has to be the same like how the genie gave to aladdin you cannot bring anybody back, from death to you cannot fall in love and what's the other one what was the other one that he cannot do


no no I think it's just these two lah I think you cannot make anyone fall in love with you you cannot bring anyone to [orh] no and you cannot wish for more wishes, three so you only have three and you're done so based on this which means if you cannot bring someone else from the dead it's the same as not being able to make you younger lah


I assume is it should fall under the same category of don'ts right, ah so you have if you have had three wishes what would you wish for


okay, okay


cannot lah it's the same as bringing someone else back from the dad from the dead what, you going to make me cry K then


true, money right money right of course right you want to know what are my wishes, my first wish I want my first ten million my second wish my second ten million


my third wish is another ten million because I feel ya so total I have thirty million I think it's enough for my lifestyle my my life, then I'll do something and make sure it grows lah basically okay aside from the fact that money is all evil mother of all evil


but with money you can clean up very easy you know, you need money to clean up definitely I just feel that you know uh money when people say money, don't really make the world go round I still feel that money does


you know if you put it in good use there are so many things that you can do like right now you know the recent tsunami that happen in indonesia I am very sure the only thing they need is money, to clean up right you if at this point of time of their life good values good morals is not going to do anything back to their village


right it's not gonna bring back their houses so they need money so ya I just feel that, uh yes of course, although I have although I have to agree or rather I have to, uh say that uh bad morals is what got them where they are right now lah


what what goes around comes around K but then ya I I definitely three wishes ya correct another story so I three wishes with, first ten million second ten million third ya total thirty million enough at least for the next few generation, that's all I need ya okay


billions ah eh but billions is a lot you know I just saw this article one million is how many uh seconds worth of seconds, no one million is one million seconds is equivalent to one million seconds right but, one billion seconds is three years


something something and how many seconds you know three years you know so which means a the difference between a a million and a billion is a lot lah, I think it's really a lot ah a lot [seh] three million three years know a lot a lot (ppb) okay next one, personal how do you choose how did you choose your eh you your side got what


what do you have on your side, which of your possession holds the most sentimental uh ini dah baca eh read sorry sorry wrong wrong language, what do you have


what is the third question again what, alcohol I don't do that anymore, wines wines and wines and wines have to admit I miss it but ya it's Haram so ya


okay never mind that one is just joking lah ha but the first the first one is nice, why don't you share with me what do you think you do different from others, eh it's a very I believe it's a very big word lah so we have to define it in probably in different sectors or aspects


because I think when you say what do you think you do differently from others it's a very in what aspect right in marriage in in parenthood in, in what what what what do you think you do different, okay let's talk about parenthood ah cause these days I've always been googling about my children


cause between the two of us right now uh Amirul just gave me a shocking news that he started smoking, this happened lah two days ago, shock of my lifestyle I I I I I wouldn't say I'm shocked shocked lah cause to begin with


I I uh !aiya! I'm not supposed to name names ah my son, ya so to begin with I I I myself started at a very young age so it's more of, how I can actually force him to quit and not to continue


so ya, you didn't like it and you didn't continue, I hope it's like that for him I really hope it's like that for him because, uh


to me for me, ya I hope it's a phase for me it wasn't a a phase because, in during my time my personal experience it was very easy to have to get cigarettes, because uh the my the cousins that I hang out with are smokers


so that's why although my both my parents are non smokers I cannot get my fix when I'm home because, I don't find any cigarettes lying around but the cousin that I mix with uh frequently over, uh school holidays or school breaks uh they definitely have sticks and sticks of cigarettes so for Amirul


you did I never did eh you very naughty ah, I never did, cause my father will kill me that's why I don't dare lah ha


really, okay what was your reason when you started what was your personal reason if you can clearly remember, yours is curiosity when I ask him yesterday a day before yesterday when I ask him so why did you what makes you wanted to start


so apparently what he told me is because his friend say that smoking cigarette is a form of stress relief, scary right I said are you so stressed I don't see you study day in day out so why are you so stressed, so I think for personally based on the question that we ask ourself based on the cards given ah the thing that I really do different


compared to any other parent is I try to calm down and speak to my children, I'm not saying it's a good method but I don't see myself wanting to punish them or grab the nearest, knife in the kitchen knife and start stabbing them or whatever I don't I I manage to always keep my cool and speak to them ah and I try to set


talk sense with them the rest I leave it to god seriously I mean it's their life their experience it's, it's what written for them right but I I just feel that, thank god I am given this very strong sense of patience I don't know where it comes from but I always manage to


I always manage to stay cool and and and just accept what is just okay if this is the phase then let's, let's see what we can we can do out of this or let's see how we can find a solution from this I really feel this is what I do differently from other parent


because other parents would want to quickly fix it and then are oh then you you have to go to a boys' home or girls' home, I think so lah I don't know I just hope that this is my his last straw don't give me anything more than this I cannot take it, so ya


next question ah so scary, what was your most okay under stories I have, I have three, I have three in stories describe the tastiest thing you have eaten in much detail as possible I don't know I'm not a foodie


oh okay I am a foodie but I, fried fat food is already uh uh very enough for me I don't need cuisines, so I don't want to talk about that very boring story and the second story would be what was your most interesting classroom experience


the other one would be what is your favourite memory from childhood


sorry I'm not supposed to scream I think but, !eww!, really, in front of you


oh my god, so was he caught by a teacher, anybody turn him in, oh dear really


I'm sure he will I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure he will, okay I didn't had any I didn't have ah I didn't have any sexual, I think I call it harassment ah ya pervert moments uh I don't have but


what is your favourite memory from childhood, or, what was your okay we were talking about what was your most interesting classroom experience right, for me, most interesting classroom experience ah, okay I again this one I cannot uh specifically elaborate because back in school I was the prima donna I'm sorry I'm not trying to blow my own whistle but


yes I was I'm always the one and, uh what I'm always the one performing for every other occasion in school I'm always the one who perform if I don't perform then I'm always the MC, to to to to conduct the the event, uh and


I happen to be the prefect and the head prefect uh for my upper primary level, so I'm always the one conduct flag raising I'm the one who will make the school stand sedia so that everybody has, to, say the eh sing the national anthem and ya I was a prima donna in


uh no I I don't I don't I don't, cause it comes with uh you know cause I no I don't I don't tell that to my children when they ask I say nah I'm just a plain jane but to be honest I was actually a prima donna


so one of one of uh my children one of my son's classmate or rather schoolmate in during secondary school was, a, what is that word, uh ya ya ya ya ya , uh what you mean in the one that goes to the secondary school lah the middle school uh this classmate uh one of the classmate or rather the the the cohort mate


uh the parent was actually from my school, the the both parents ah it they were school heart school they were school, uh uh middle school or rather secondary school sweetheart and they actually ended up in marriage and now have four children, so they happen ah only they they would know they would probably go to Amirul eh last time your mother eh like that like that like that


sorry ah I was uh don't have lah no specific moment because every day was fun in school, I'm always the limelight irritating right, but I wasn't but I wasn't the school bitch lah I wasn't the school bitch uh I was just someone who is always active doing this and that


like how you are right now with the with the the group with the group yes


okay, really


right right, right right, [orh] really


to join you and ya, okay the fact that I'm the prefect and I started smoking at a very young age right uh not young lah in my secondary school days, and the fact that because I'm a prefect that's why that that's why it was very


like I said that every day is is is a nice day in school for me there's no specific experience because the fact that I'm prefect and and and every time I'm, in charge of the canteen uh duty, uh and to to actually look out for these boys or girls who actually smoke during uh canteen or rather recess time


I'll be joining them lah, and these people are my friends because they know eh the prefect in charge here is the person supposed to catch us but she's down here standing smoking with us, ah I I don't unfortunately for the school lah unfortunately for the school but that's how I actually managed to get a lot of friends


yes while while doing that lah abuse of authority but ya not bad not bad okay uh, of course not lah that's why it's very contradicting you know that's the scariest part


every time they come up with anything silly or anytime anytime they come up with all this nonsense ah, basically but it's nothing cliche it's just literally teenagers growing up but it's always always scares me because it brings back memories, and then it bring I I I cannot I cannot uh uh I cannot diss them too much because I know eh


if they knew the mother also picks up smoking when she was in secondary one he picks it up when he's in secondary two I picked it up when I was in secondary one, you know and and he will probably if and he knows it is the scariest, in a thought ever he probably go up to me and say eh mum look at yourself you started when you are in sec one man


you know you know what I mean or not so it's always this this, this contradicting emotions every time it happens so probably I always have that soft approach ah because I know, if they found out then they'll be like eh what the hell you cane me and you yourself a smoker


okay


ya ya, I do that too know actually when I was younger I have a lot of acquaintances rather than friends, so but it was safe lah I I never had any peer pressure, cause I I don't I don't want to please anybody I don't need to see myself pleasing anybody neither do I have to convince anybody to like


me because they are just merely acquaintances, they they just come in my life and I know in a matter of hours of the day they're they'll be gone and god knows whether I'll ever see them again, so ya I never had that uh peer pressure like uh wanting to


be loved or wanting to be wanted I don't have this when I was when I was younger, ya ya ya I do ya ya ya I was just me being myself so it was uh it was, it was I wouldn't say it's fun but it was very safe, I think growing up as a teenager it was very safe for me very very safe uh talk


, what is that


ya ya ya eh which which reminds me okay I know they give us these fifteen cards so that we actually speak, long enough right but I think the both of us we can actually carry on you know without any uh, were you K I'm just gonna go ya but I think we have to go through it lah because it's


fill the criteria we'll go through it later once uh cause I think we have about another uh half an hour to kill uh, were you or were you not a virgin when you married, really


I feel so dirty okay I'm not ah K never mind, understand, right right but of course the person but the person I lost my virginity to would be my first husband lah


it's just that we did the act before we uh we are before we were solemnised so ya it's as good as not a virgin when you're married lah, ya ya lah it's fine it's fine yeah yeah ya it's fine it's fine


yes I always believe that also but I don't tell this to my children you see because I keep I will tell them the other way round I said, uh because a lot of our friends are like ex-convicts and and people who came from a very dark background, you know and they see these people doing well now but then then I uh I do


I I I'm not saying that they do say it but I am sure it occur to them in their head like !hey! this so and so was a bad person before, they turn out good now so right now I'm at my prime why can't my parents allow me to do whatever is it I want to do you know what I mean


because eventually I'll I'll turn out fine see that's why I don't use this story I'll just tell them these people are lucky, that they managed to find back the path you may not be as lucky as them this is what I always tell them so don't even try ya


ya yes while while in the act lah right or not because ya ya this this is also something I say that okay come let's go through our cards


uh let's go through our cards you go through your pink ones ah you answer and then I answer and then we go through our purple so on and so forth, your under personal what are your question, all the three your all the three


what is the what sorry, okay okay (ppb), uh for me would be the fact that


okay I, uh to be honest my children don't know that I actually was a school dropout, none of them, except for the eldest ah cause I think he's old enough to actually understand in fact, he did his math like uh you we we are about so and so years apart


you're I'm very sure you married off at a very young age so I doubt you actually even went to university, he did his math as he grows up so I went like okay so this was my journey K I am


really, I don't think so I think we're very good people we're very good samaritans so one one card down next


ah I think we talk about that already, okay so, useless superpower


you sure you want to ask me that question ah, the pose is it, K lah


let's be , no lah they're asking about the pose right, the pose would be, I would pose like a, a very demure queen


with lots of, actually I want to pose I actually I want to pose like a like like a like a what's that the name of that artiste the black african american artiste, twerking I would want to do that lah but I don't want to promote any sexuality you know all this nonsense in the world ah so I want to pose like a demure queen


a strong independent woman, a woman where a man will need not a not a woman that needs a man very strong character indeed


right, uh okay okay okay okay okay, get a new superpower decided by the person to your left


what do you do with it, if I have a okay okay lah let's let's let's try and talk about this one get a new superpower if I will be given a superpower or if I have, the chance to uh get a superpower uh the superpower that I want to possess would be


I want to be fast lah no no not disappearing I don't need to, ~appear I just want to be fast like the flash so that I can get all chores done and get it done and over with then I'll have all the time to myself


ya I want to be fast, really, then you wouldn't be interesting anymore


oh but you want to lah okay okay lah K lah, , K ah let me put these cards away first the pink one cause I think we are done with the pink, oh no no no for me not yet I have another one how did you choose your career


your career ya ya the past ya ya ya or eh no motherhood is career okay homemaker is also a career, how did you choose your career


that's how you choose it, okay for me why I choose to be a homemaker is because I just want to take care of my own children lah that's all, what dreams from childhood have you achieve, for me nothing


I wanted to be a lawyer I wasn't one, I still speak like one but I'm not one, so you have been, nice


ah okay no nothing for me I wanted to be a singer I did sing I sing in a club and then I know singapore cannot make money when you're a singer, so I dropped it so partially lah maybe forty percent out of it I did, basically I did


sung in front of a crowd, and people enjoying my voice done it before so yes that's my childhood it's to sing so I did it but I didn't pursue it any bigger, that's all which of the possessions [orh] okay this one I have it already


okay ah mine also gone now silly ah superpower we did it what is the worst way to meet a future significant other, drunk in a club


bending over puking, okay, really


that wouldn't be the worst lah that wouldn't be the worst ah but we're talking about significant other is that is that the current one that you're married to, really that's how he did it, okay I remember there was this one time okay basically the current one that I'm married to is uh


birthday introduced by a mutual friend right but when I during my dating days, there was this guy who came up to me uh it was during uh the the muslim fasting month, and we were sitting down waiting to break fast and then me and just my other girlfriend just the two of us


uh after doing little shopping lah and then we were sitting down to break fast suddenly this guy came up to us, and uh usually, during the era of cell phones even though that during that time that it it wasn't a smartphone but of course you can still


play snake or the bouncing ball game so we were killing time and playing ya those, ya brick games so we were doing that on the phone he she my girlfriend was looking at her phone and I was looking at my phone and we were doing our while waiting for the prayer call


suddenly this guy came up to me and then, just came very close to us I thought they were talk taking I thought it was a waiter taking order but I realised that we already have food on the table so I look up to him and I look at him and he was, actually directing to me lah cause he was standing right next to me so he was looking at me and then he's he said this in in the our ethnic language he said


is that a phone, it would sound funnier in our language lah ha but we can't do that now right so he ask me !hey! is that a phone I said I look at him and I went like, ya and then he went can I have the number, like that, and in the I later after this session I'll tell you how he sound like in our language in our malay language but that's how he's like is that a phone I said ya


I because I was very bubbly I was like I I'm not I don't shy away from strangers I don't shy away from comments basically I'm an, extrovert lah right so naturally so when he said is that a phone I said ya can I have the number and I went like !huh!, ha ha and then that's how we actually got acquainted and then we exchanged numbers and then dated him for a while realised he's boring and dump him


K so what is the worst way to meet a significant we're done with that okay sorry that's so funny you have the power to create an, any physical object, the catch is that it talks and is very annoying


when you are alone with it, bloody hell what do you make, my god, a talking object, what do you make you have the power to create any physical object, the catch is that it talks and is very annoying when you are alone with it what do you make


actually I don't want nightmares tonight ah so I'm not going to talk about that one


food fight, consumable weapon of choice ah, in a food fight


rat rat poison lah, F double O D right, ya lah F O O D lah, what I don't understand the question actually


so rat poison not ah, what would it be for you I think would be cannabis muffin lah, will I go to jail or not ah after this


[orh] oh that's what you talking about oh I see okay no lah cannot, it's a food, oh so during a food fight you have to only kill uh someone, uh with a with a food lah the weapon will be food serious ah no I cannot think of anything


I don't think you can die with that lah, okay cannot not I'm not very creative with food so okay cannot think get two words uh you have


you have another one, okay, I think we have about we can we just finish these cards and we're done get two words from the people around you your superhero name is a combination of two words, what is your power and origin story


this one I have to this one I have to carbon copy uh beyonce, the famous artiste, uh sasha fierce, that'll be my


superhero name sasha fierce what is your power and origin story, my power is to intimidate people, and they'll be so scared to death, of me done, that'll be mine


you have you want you don't want next, name cannot think of right, RJ what


okay next question how would you design the most fun house in the world


creatures, (hmm) true how would you design the most fun house in the world when they say fun house means uh


the house has to be fun lah right not, this question is ya this question is more appropriate for children lah fun for me will be different ah very scary very R twenty one know


so cannot I cannot I cannot share very sorry it's too personal okay uh any more cards I have six more cards, all that you read or not, what was, what was your most


achievement system, if life has an achievement system in what form is it definitely I'll definitely I will demolish the meritocracy that we already have, no way no need to study


something else, ya true but I like I mean like if if I get to choose the system that is going down the drain lah


I think I put it in the simpler form, , no need exams, who can sing nicer, who say


name again, ya man


eh your your your cards more ya baby boss, except, except the baby boss movie the that baby was actually preparing, uh, the world to


to love, to love babies more isn't it or something like that, ya I think if I am a toddler in an adult's world I would want to educate the adults that, uh


about unconditional love, that's how I'm going to is it changing the world or or teaching something, prepare right ya so uh I mean I would I would, educate, adults about unconditional love


uh to ya because I feel that where aside from money that I know will make the world go round, aside from money I still feel that uh the second thing will be love lah, love and kindness and and okay love in general love is a very big word so love is actually very important


cause because when you really understand the true value and meaning of love, uh we wouldn't be doing what we are doing right now as in collectively the world, you know killing each other wanting more power I think people would people would


mind their own business more than you know ya so if I am ya a toddler a toddler with an adult mind I would want them to, uh, I would want to grasp their attention and and actually teach them about love and affection ya


you'll be in #las vegas# freak show, ya ya, uh ya it won't be ya


right right, true, okay next card


describe another person, cards are no good ah, ya, okay omit uh I don't know noun, noun using a noun to describe don't you use adjectives adjectives to describe a person


ya ya ya ya but do you describe someone with a noun isn't isn't that person is a noun the person to begin with is a noun how do you describe someone with a noun, K my english cannot make it so never mind okay what labels do you think you have been given by society and how are you different from them


and it's amazing you're actually the chairman


okay what labels do you think you have been given by society to, ah ya ya you have to


okay for me uh honestly uh labels that has been given to me by society, are uh, there are several but the one that always comes out in I know this is going to make you cringe but they call me sexy


ah so uh, ya so it's always it's very cliche I hear that all the time so never mind I don't know which part but probably the way I talk and the way I, ya I guess so okay next question wait what what is the best way to introduce a novice to your favourite hobby


to begin with what is a novice, novice or novice novice what's a novice to introduce a novice to your favourite hobby, what is the best way to introduce, what's a novice


what's a novice, can't hold my phone, K uh pass, uh cause we don't know the meaning of that word you get to add a zero to any number in your life where do you put it


I ya, the bank account ya right to get to add a zero to any number in your life


ya where do you put it, but one zero in front of an account account, amount not allowed what, not allowed what if I have one thousand add one it become ten thousand only ten thousand where got a lot


you give me ten thousand don't need to put me in orchard road don't just put put me in Jurong point I can finish it the whole day, K K I don't want K describe the tastiest thing you have eaten in as much detail as possible


tastiest I think that would be you cause you've travelled the world the places I've travelled was indonesia and uh malaysia so I do we have the same food


egg E G G egg, oh okay


what is it just eggs just eggs, so what do you do to the eggs what do you do you baked it you fry it you


okay, no lah not poached poached would be in water what, ah scrambled


you can never you can never you can never uh uh uh recreate it lah, okay I do understand ya ya I have a few I have a few dishes from my uh from my grandparents as well, that they they created or rather they they cook that I can never replicate uh for me describe the tastiest thing you have eaten would be french fries


I can't describe just McDonald's four dollars you can experience it yourself so it's very nice, K uh I got two cards left, uh what was your most interesting classroom experience you you I said it I've said my


piece as well what is your favourite memory from childhood, favourite memory from childhood childhood childhood, I have one lah I have one I do have one my favourite memory from childhood would be


staying with my grandmother staying with my paternal grandmother, ya, she uh, ya


okay


useless but beneficial in some way, why so contradicting one the question, I cannot answer, next


the extremist muslim in the world, ya right, ya


you can never you can never discuss enough about them, ya let don't talk about ten years lah let's see what happens next year


ya when I when I when when oh okay uh for me would be


not situation because situation usually I will always try and blend but when I'm around very weird awkward people I definitely want to walk out, because I seriously do not know I will not know how to react, and and it is not in my dictionary to offend so I would rather walk away ya I would wanna


oh my god


oh my god okay, okay I if you have that one then uh a uh to be away from or to be to to walk out of, uh you know a group of awkward people uh would be a very safe answer to me if it's really


I wanna get out was uh this party I went to when I was younger, uh I didn't know what kind of party it was but when I arrived to this landed property it was a home, and I came in it was a drugs and sex uh drugs and sex party


as wild as I was I went like my god I gotta go man this, is crazy so yes I did too much too much too overwhelming it was very scary


ya I have a lot of story depends on the conversation lah, ya depends on the what kind of people I am uh you know one thing about storytelling is of course you know I would want to tell it when people are listening


and when you know that you know no one is interested and don't want to know I wouldn't want to tell, so ya


I had I never had an experience of living in a Kampung to begin with, cause I think I if I can remember correctly when I was born I was already in a in a in a high rise uh, building in a in a in a flat lah ya so I don't have a I don't have a Kampung experience except for when I went I go back to


uh my uncle's Kampung in malaysia lah but that it's not yours so it's different you know still, okay let's go, finish I'm done okay I see you in a bit


okay uh seriously I don't know, this is the free topic


what was his, see how not to laugh


ah okay okay, I can't remember I can't remember what was her chronological order but uh the first one was floorball, she wanted to choose hip hip hop but over the over the year this particular year she changed her interest so she said she wanted floorball


and then the uh the three other choices were, choir, I think hip hop and then malay dance, ya that was she she wanted taekwondo but uh the the the the option taekwondo was


not uh included in the form and it was, messaged SMS, that that there was an option it was it was it was just not included in the form right ya


right, savvy ya


ya I've never I've never sent my children for I've never sent my children for any tuition, let alone enrichment classes I don't except for preschool lah uh because ichiban is a, pro pro academy uh kindergarten so they they they do have it in-house


so it wasn't something additional that I have to send them to but it was uh conducted within the school


ya true yes yes yes yes yes yes I agree with that as well


ya, I have to agree that the primary school that our children would goes to is uh is uh it's filled with very dedicated teachers unfortunately the school right next


to theirs uh I don't think I would ever wanna, uh my daughter to to go there I think it's going to end at my son I feel that their school is, uh I I I don't know how to describe ya the secondary school it is the total opposite of the teachers you see in the primary school to be honest they are


quite nonchalant about uh about ya the student affairs and , they are very quick to complain if should there be any problem but they are not very very uh


uh prompt with their uh compliments or or updates on your child's uh achievement but anything any complaint very quick, you know like uh your son needs to go for a haircut or your son needs to or your son was not uh you know was was late for school like you say this


when it comes to complaints about your children's behaviour or or or conduct they're very fast, uh this is what I feel lah this and then the secondary school so it wasn't I don't think I ever want to go back I I I I mean I don't think I ever want


this this uh the girl to go to go to the uh secondary school that the brother went to it now I don't know, eh I this this this jobs and career uh column uh actually


grasp for my attention, what are you working as blah blah blah I'm I kinda like since it's a free topic I was just wondering have you ever thought of , going back into the workforce


ya, right right but what would you but what would you wanna do if you if you are going


ya that's what I thought I wanna do too as well you know I was thinking probably as soon as uh, the youngest baby is uh in preschool, preschool uh ya because once she is in P one I think I will have to concentrate on her as well


okay the fact that my children is uh seven years apart it seems that I will never have my wings back, but uh but ya ya but in sense of preparing myself I think, before she enters, primary one


I would want to use the time, uh to attend you know all the all the courses that I can, uh to prepare myself to go into healthcare


but do they pay


I mean I'm sorry everybody works for money so but do they pay in this area I don't think so right ya ya, [orh] that's [orh] you're talking about giving back to the society okay if if let's say I'm I am accepted or rather I am


I am already involved in the healthcare uh industry or or or ya in in uh healthcare industry, I don't mind to ya I don't I don't mind to actually do voluntary work when it comes to giving, uh, the counselling support lah uh in in the family ya ya what what you mentioned just now I think


quite true know, yes


right


that we I was mentioning about just now, uh I because he is in this in this in this area he's working in this area I can actually ask him you know uh for some


of course of course of course, I think we can start doing our research and and see how we can ya ya ya ya ya I agree as well, we should we should


ya ya, encouraging lah I would say it's encouraging you know I wouldn't I wouldn't say that whatever we we we thought our thoughts are is contradicting with, the society it seems that what we we we are just basically following what


you know the campaigns are doing the the government campaigns are doing which is to to uh to uh to not educate to what, to encourage to encourage this uh uh uh working with with the uh with the senior citizens


or we as the senior citizens or the elderly citizens uh growing growing growing citizens uh should be involved in the working in the workforce also, ya I think so I think so I think we should do that, but where do we sorry where do we begin do we do we look through WSQ the workforce


do they, okay uh the fact that I was a dropout when I was in secondary school I actually gotten myself uh graded, with the WPLN the workforce eh it's uh W W


work workforce literacy and numeracy W, oh my god what is it called, it's not night classes you don't even have to attend night classes basically you it is a it is a four hour thingy


and there were two you have to, workforce or workfare literacy and numeracy WPLN, WLPN or WPLN work workforce


[orh] my god okay I I'll just google it later so I got myself with I got myself a I I went to the uh, the institute of devan nair, uh the NTUC hub


office and and we we has we have this done so basically it's something you go to a class it's like it's like taking your highway code, uh before you know there's a screen you answer a few questions uh uh uh under the mathematics uh subject and then the english subject


and then you get yourself graded there so basically after I went through the uh the questionnaire uh under math and english, uh they they grade me I am as good as an O-level holder, ya then from there with this thing you can actually proceed and take your


certificates which is uh ya concerning uh which is relevant to the fields that you want to involve yourself in lah, , so I got that done ya after that I think we have to just locate but at least I am not you know how when you do not have your secondary uh education


before before now before before this time before now you you kind of stuck, you you you are ya in the eighties in the nineties if you don't have your secondary education you're kinda stuck like from there you cannot go anywhere unless you go for your night classes


which is going to be impossible because it's when you you have an old brain and you have to do algebra you will die, I I mean I think personally that's what some are cause I didn't attempt I have never attempted, uh night classes so uh because


back then I was contented with, the the work that I was involved of involving myself in like the retail industry you don't really need your secondary education especially when you're being recommended to the job, so uh I didn't have any uh difficulty getting myself a to hold myself a job lah


so uh and then after that I was working for lawyer's office same thing it was being recommended and then I was working for, usually that kind of job requires you to at least have an O-level or diploma but I was I was I was, recommended and then they saw my


uh like they saw my capability of handling the job well and then I also have uh I'm quite uh literate with, the microsoft office and all so it was okay for me, back then it was okay for me so but now they have this channel all these WSQ


uh ya ya ya so I had I had the WPLN work, blah bloody hell ya all these WPLN done the so uh once I I've got I I got that done and I and and I was, rated uh to have


whole uh O-level, ~tificates, then from there I can I there are you'll be from there they open up more , uh sectors and and fields where you can actually advance from there you can you can take your your certificates or or even


diplomas ah I think lah but I've not really uh take a proper look at it, but I think I should lah I think healthcare will be one of the fields, and uh doing voluntary job is that thing lah the one you just mention that'll be very interesting ya ya


I guess so I guess so ya ya


we need to google and find out what are the next steps to actually go into this line, uh I think so long as I am not, I always told my husband that so long as I don't uh, I uh what what whatever the activity I'm taking up right now it doesn't uh disturb or interrupt into my daily


routines with the children and and the chores and all I think he should have no problem of me going into the looking into that area, ya be good lah I think I think that's the only there's nobody wants to walk into a store


and seeing a auntie right trying to sell them face product or clothes also I think retail is definitely out of it lah but healthcare will be good, ya ya ya correct correct correct can can can what else can we talk about food


food food, K it's a free topic so after this are we still gonna have food are we still gonna have proper lunch or not, okay actually I have a few things that I need to I that I need to buy I need to buy a proper handphone cover because my first phone was


my first iPhone seven if I if I'm not wrong I shared with you it was run over by a lorry you know that right recently, my phone was being run over by a lorry ya so !huh! I didn't tell you, ya it was run over cause I left the phone on the car


and then drive off, and then the phone drop at the junction where uh the primary school was, between the primary school and the cluster of landed properties at our area, ah it drop there


at that junction and then I suddenly realise eh where's my phone, and then I start I look at the back of the at back of the seat it's not there call back to the childcare centre, uh and ask the the teachers is my phone is my phone in the


in the bag of the child right my my daughter and then uh she say no no no no the the phone is not there, uh I said !alamak! I don't know where is the phone now know I think K never mind let me look so I calm myself down and then I just drive back, that particular uh route that I I went before and I saw that poor thing just on the on the road flat


but the phone ya thank god I had the insurance the smart the smart, don't know what by Starhub ya ya SmartPac so I managed to get a replacement with a very low fee, and then uh but I still use the otterbox phone casing it was really good but by now I think it's falling apart so I need to buy that one


and then I need to get uh the baby's diaper and milk, so these are the three things that I need to buy while we are out here doing this so that can be done in Jurong point so what can we eat in Jurong point, I think we just go back lah no need to go elsewhere we just go back to where we ah my neighbourhood then we end up in Jurong point at least it's close to home


ya ya ya but still what are we gonna eat


ya to be honest for me it's the same thing so long as I see that the ingredients does not, contain things that are forbidden for us to eat I will just go ahead and just gobble it up, okay oh yes and one more thing talk about I saw hobbies can you please do a follow-up with mister


dance teacher and tell him when uh is he going to conduct the zumba class please do a very aggressive follow-up with him, because I really need to do it, and then uh ya I I is is he home is your other half home today


working till late is it, ah so if you want to go for a walk with me at five o'clock later you can join, ah at NTU so right now I can that's all I can do lah I can just walk brisk walk because I don't want to injure my knee further


cause it's really bad my knee is really really bad now


to be honest I like pilates I really love pilates, cause it works on your core, muscles a lot, actually there is this gym that belongs to a friend uh that I would really love to go to and pay them a visit


uh they do strengthening they do conditioning and strengthening exercises so basically they carry weights and, uh kettle bells and all I think uh this the owner of this gym called the strength avenue, was once interviewed by


the gentleman that we were discussing about, uh in the bus ride, the one where the wife is also a celebrity remember, the one that is conducting the korea trip, ya so he was being interviewed by that guy before and it appeared somewhere on TV or youtube I can't remember


because I don't see I don't think this guy is on TV right now mostly is he's doing his own youtube channel, so ya uh but I I think I remember strength avenue owner being uh interviewed and appeared on TV so, uh he he's a friend ah he's a he's a he's a personal friend of mine and every time he has


uh I I I think of going back into fitness , seriously I always have him in mind and sometimes he does uh PM me in instagram and say kak come down lah it's okay just come down anytime let's not talk about money first, just come down and see whether this kind of exercise you know works for you


so I thought of going there as well I think it's somewhere in, you know #ann siang# road ah if I'm not wrong it's called #ann siang# road or, it's it's in between #telok ayer# and


#tanjong pagar# yeah ya somewhere there the I don't know if the the gym has moved but I know it's somewhere there, so ya I thought I wanna try doing conditioning the fact that the youngest one is in school right now, my horizons are wider lah a little bit


a little bit so ya, ya so ya ya ya I'm happy with the the arrangement that that that's going on right now, so it's fine, sure


you don't you ya we in fact I just read recently I just read an article you know, if you are if you are of a certain BMI you know your BMI your your what, ya that thing body mass index ya if you if you are of a certain uh


scale in in your BMI above certain number you don't run, especially when you're a female because you will injure your knee, and ya and once your knee is injured then it will obstruct you from doing, from doing any exercise at all so that's where you start gaining weight even more


we should you know we should you know let's do that lah, it is it is it is I think I think we can actually divide the time


the the thing for me is anytime monday to friday I'm free, but for you you have to wait for the mister to be away at work right otherwise, he should be okay ah


okay lah if he should be okay then we we resume ah cause these days uh I try to work out, uh after the third prayer, after the third prayer I leave home, so either it's a walk or a swim or whatever uh it's always within that time


so whatever it is I have to come back by, to fetch the youngest ya to fetch the youngest, so swimming is fine and in fact I just uh registered her with the active SG


and we just receive another hundred dollars active SG credit so swimming is no problem, and if you want to, to be honest at that point of time ah safra, cause I have access to safra and you can always use one of the children's card to go in right


and the dependent card is fine but the the difference between safra and the one near our home, uh is that the one near our home has a shelter on top of it, so the sun the yeah so it's it's semi indoor kind of thing so at least you don't get


uh for you you're fair it's fine for me I'm dark and I my skin is prone to, prone to get darker very fast under sun rays so ya I think I don't I don't think I want to go to safra unless it's after eight o'clock, swim then it's fine but no lah I think


our current lifestyle doesn't allow us to workout at that point of at that time of the day for now, eight o'clock is too late lah ha I think, ya so I think four thirty uh the one near our home will be good


K lah let's start lah let's let's let's let's start somewhere at the we'll do that again, for each a refund can we end the call now and, let's ya let's let's end the call and see what they say


I don't know I'm just going to step out and see what they say let's let's let's bye don't hang up first though, okay bye


K I was just told that my voice is very powerful, based on the fifteen minutes what I see here is fifteen minutes


okay what are what is what is already in the pipeline first is to prepare ourself to go into workforce second is the fitness, third is what, what else that can be done


for me I think it's just those two lah, other than that it's not much oh ya uh I I understand that you have pre-empted me that I have to be more, uh aggressive with the involvement of the organisation in the primary school


so uh yes yes I I I I roger that uh it's just that probably I would need to have uh, uh the the schedule the schedule prior to ya, give me the schedule in advance before before the week begins lah then at least I know what to do and stuff


I don't know I think we we she mentioned that we this this time round they call us out


he gave me point blank I'm bored you know do you know that, point blank, he said name me he he told he he actually ask me this question name me a student that tell you that studying is fun


ya that's what which I told him lah which I told him there are certain things in life you don't do for fun, there're certain things in life that you have to do because you're you have to be responsible ya ya ya ya but boys being boys that's the thing


they are less, they are more playful and and they can


I actually went out with uh uh the other half last night when we found out about this thing I kept, it from him about a day but then I couldn't so yesterday after his uh NFL, referee duty I told him uh when you come home please don't come up uh wait for me downstairs and uh


we'll go out for tea and I said there's something I need to talk to you about so he wasn't very surprised about the, the situation because ya because like I said both himself and my and me we we actually share the same


same experience lah like for yourself you also did it when you were during that age isn't it but of course for you you didn't like it and you gave it up but for us it, kinda stuck with us it got stuck with us till even adulthood right ya very very long even till now so we do not want that to happen with


him the the young the boy but I did tell him as soon as you're twenty one, the the reason why I do not want you or the reason why we have to step in, you know about this smoking business is that the government has actually


increased the legal age to twenty one years old, and you are only ya yes yes, that's that's that's beside my point the thing is okay legal age is twenty one years old you are you are fourteen years old right now so you


do your math twenty one minus fourteen that's seven years which means you are going to be a refugee for nicotine for seven years, so trust me it's a it's going to be a matter of time before you're caught doing it, ya and then others schools will be involved parents will be involved and if you are you're caught smoking outside with your uniform the authority will be


involved and then your parents which who's gonna be slapped with some, what is that word called summon and we have to pay hundreds of dollars of summon because of you, I told him this I said you gotta stop now you know if you are twenty one right now, you it's your problem it's your prerogative


he didn't own up lah he actually didn't own up we caught him taking cigarette from the elder brother, so that's where ya so I told him when when when my eldest broke the news to me via WhatsApp


I took a deep breath and I said uh I thought this this thing will end you know but apparently it didn't cause we I had an episode what he found, the school found two sticks of cigarette in his bag remember, at one point we had this issue before what


did I share with you no I didn't ah, with Adib, but during that time but during that time when we found the cigarettes he said he just wanted to look cool, and he wasn't smoking back then but this time round when uh the elder found a stick missing from his box


uh he said he and he he ransacked the this boy's bag and found it, so what is his reason now that point of time you wanted to look cool now you actually stealing from your own brother, what kind of cool is that definitely it's for yourself so initially he tried to to pretend like !huh! what cigarette


what cigarette are you talking about so I I just look at him and I I tell him look, you're caught you're busted so spare me the act lah I said just own up, what is it so that's where he came clean he said yeah it's been a month since I start smoking and I said why so of course I ask him the typical questions like


why did you start how how where do you get your fix and then, you know who who are the people you do it with and stuff like that and then of course the lecture, about the the legal age and then he he if he caught he's caught what are the repercussions and stuff like that


so I keep telling him all these lah so ya I said if you're twenty one you know and you're earning your own money by all means go ahead, smoke all you want you know it's only about you know the health conscience lah where you know smoking is no good for you but


again you know if you got to die you got to die but right now the the most important thing would is the fact that it it's it's it's not legal for you yet, so you are opening yourself to risk about getting caught and once you're caught there's so many people that involve the school the authority your parents and then


you know the not forgetting the summon ya so there will be so I told him like you by hook or by crook you got to, so I gave him the ultimatum I told him no more self study no more going out and study with your friends and stuff like that it's because I told him I keep going to counselling


you know I attended workshops when you're in secondary one the counsellors are advising me that when you are younger, uh I I mean when when unlike when you know these children are in primary school now they're in secondary school, you got to cut them some slack you know you got to give them some space you got to start giving them space so that they can start to learn to take ownership and responsibility with their own life


I said I did I cut slacks for you but in return what did you do you abuse it and you've never you this, picking up smoking is never uh uh uh apa taking ownership with your life we being responsible


similarly previously your all his other nonsense uh nonsense uh things that he get himself involved to like , what else ah he was lying lah he's telling lies to the teacher not handing up homework and then yet lying about having


family problem and then the teacher texted me one day and said I'm very concerned Amirul say he has some family problems going on if you don't mind sharing what's going on at home, I say what's going on I don't know nothing is going on at home


ya ya, true true true


the boys, ya ya ya ya ya


teacher, the elder or the younger boys


oh you told the the friend is it another student is it


right right right, tell her to shut up


and she stopped she doesn't do that anymore


naturally he's just a very active ya but it's very difficult for these other people to understand because they, they are not challenged with children like that you see, and then they don't keep themself their mind as an open book that these things can happen to some people out there


that they just you know ya


really, negative inputs ah okay okay okay !wow! !wow! !wow! which teacher is this


nice, which one the form teacher ah, ya of course of course of course


of course he don't he don't ask to be like that right it's just as a nature that he's very


right right, right


right right, ya ya ya ya ya that's normal lah cause ya yes


it's not healthy, it's never healthy, to compare between siblings because they are all different


simpler times lah you can never compare then and now, to be honest really I really feel that it's very unfair for people from the especially the conservative people, ah last time ah have eleven children know all my eleven children all is good blah blah blah hello auntie no internet last time lah easier of course


now it's so different I just feel know I don't think that there is any way you can compare raising up a child, uh before and now, there's no way in fact even in our quran mentions like you there will definitely be uh uh changes when the era change


so you have to be prepared for that so now I rest my case there's no point arguing, to me it's not fair to compare the cannot compare it's different, so uh ya ya but then but then like I'm quite curious like when they are born right when the boys are born okay


let's talk about the youngest one did you see any signs or did the, doctor pre-empted you that he's going to be a hyperactive child


were you pre-empted then that stage, of


right right right, right right right so they rule it out because of that aspect lah that he is able to concentrate he doesn't fall into the category of uh maybe


uh hyperactive or ADHD or even autism ya I see I see


okay okay, so ya I think I think uh the lady has given the signal to wrap things up I just feel this way that , uh, even, uh, you're not the only


contact that I know that actually has uh children, special I wouldn't say special special lah but, uh just, different from norm different from norm where like the youngest one is rarely very uh uh hyperactive but I just feel that


sometimes society has to be more uh open minded you know to be able to accept differences within children, okay thank you for your time Rahimah


ya I was quite surprised when she said wrap it up, did you hang up just now did you hang up, you didn't right you didn't put the cradle back to the handset right


we because uh I was quite surprised when she came over and said uh to wrap it up, I think uh I think she saw I got a feeling she saw the wrong timing that we through because we started at twelve thirty, so ours will finish at about almost three lah


ya man so ya back back to where I was saying lah some some I think society just needs to, have this open mind that that that such thing can happen ah can happen ya


that's why there was one time, uh when, me and my other half was having a discussion about you know children and how he was comparing, and how people tend to compare children which


, he's a very conservative parent lah he's very nineteen seventy type one so I sometimes I do have to, argue my point or I I had to stress out my point more to him because


uh I think his conservative thinking cannot work anymore during this time but like I said being being brought up from a from, only mother cause he grew up without a dad right I mean he didn't have a father figure he had a stepdad but it wasn't a father figure so


uh I I don't blame him for having that type of mindset because it was only a woman who raised him, you do you understand so they become a bit girly because, not not sissy lah but their thinking is more very woman ah very the will nag you know ah ya will nag the children and stuff for me


I came up with a proper set of parent for him he was only brought up by woman in fact he was brought up by clusters of woman, he was brought up by grandmothers, and then mother, grandmothers two two stage some more grandmother and great grandmother who brought him up


so he has a a school of woman who brought him so he's that I don't blame him for being conservative so when he was doing comparing I said no you you you cannot do that, I said you you you cannot feel that uh your child is more right than others because


different children is different I told him, and then I I can't remember what was the exact scenario and the situation but I said I said look at Rahimah, I said look at Rahimah she, if allah had given us the boys


I don't think you can take it, now only you see other people children very naughty naughty you say like, !wah! this one ah if my own children ah I cannot one I tell you this one I sure cannot one this one like I sure I will sure I will that sure I said no you, I give then I gave example cause we already know each other I give example that's why he the almighty didn't give you children like like


the the two boys if they had, I think the reason why that you don't get you don't get it because he knows you cannot handle it, why other people are given a set of children like that because, the almighty knows they can handle it


ah but you are given with all this nonsense ah your boys growing up with a typical under the void deck problem, ah because that's your strength he he knows you can handle this type of children ah but you cannot handle special children so that's why


so I told him lah that he he he needs to start looking from this perspective so I had to go through with him, courses of, from last time ya when it comes to parenting we we we we we always don't see eye to eye, our mind is always never is very rarely on the same path


between me and my other half ya because we he's very conservative, so but now after fifteen years together I am very, I'd say very uh fortunate I'm blessed that he is already leaning towards me, at the end of the day he'll be like uh go talk to your mother I don't know let your mother handle it because he because he knows


when he tried to give his opinion it'll be objected with by me, or whatever so he will always like okay whatever your mother say I second it, ah he will be more leaning to which is a good sign lah which is a good sign because I told him you want to be, ya you want to be stubborn with your own ways but at the end of the day I'm the one attending workshops


I'm the one updating myself with how parenting should be in this era, either he lose out ah on that then what about you and your other half, do do you see eye, I am challenged in in my marriage I'm challenged like that when it comes to parenting we don't see eye to eye I will always have to fight him when it comes to parenting


but has it been like that all the time, that's so nice


go back him go back the kid up the bad cop good cop thing lah


so you do have moments where you don't agree on a certain thing lah I see I see I see I see I see, ah ya ya ya ya ya of course, but what are the things ah if if you don't mind sharing what are the things that you don't agree with


uh when it comes to parenting what's uh what, what's the word specific subject or specific, topics about parenting that you don't agree, I give you an example between me and my other half it's about using uh


the technology I still feel that you should not be, giving uh this, advanced technology to our children too early, I feel that like uh when I said, don't give ah it's literally don't give know not


K lah never mind in one day ah you can give them two three hours then after that take it away and then to me it's like, as much as you can don't introduce is the best but he will strongly disagree he will say what you talking about this is the this, era is a is a is a technology savvy era you want your children to be like outdated ah I I still I I really cannot


agree with the he uses like the word outdated I said no no no it's not about being outdated it's just too soon to introduce, ah this I will still till date, when it comes to this I still have to fight him like he's very the give the child ipad give the child


let him watch youtube give him you know in the car sometimes like it comes to my girl ah my elder girl right, we go in the car we have to travel from point A to point B right without the girl asking he already pass his mobile phone to her, like old and sometimes I'm like, she's not even asking for it [seh] you are already giving to her


so when one day she herself will, go in the car only daddy phone, you cannot angry you cannot get mad with her because you are educating her, be if without her asking you're already giving, you should at least wait then you still even


you wait and then when he ask for it she ask for it you still have to consider okay I'm giving you fifteen minutes give the phone back, you know what I mean ah he no he will just give give give, ah this one I cannot Tahan really, cannot tolerate


technology, wait ah, technology and


ya lah I I I have to agree that it's mainly a uh ya uh that and also the inilah ada , uh what is this ah or what is that ah where where it comes for the boys it's about


uh allowing freedom too fast, uh allowing freedom too fast like going for group studies all these I am definitely against it, because to me uh you you wanna group study and if you really think it works for you which for the case for my my sons it's never it's it's


it's never so when he goes to for group study you know he wants to play because group study doesn't work for him, because group studies is not for everybody, some people can study in a group some people they get distracted so in the end they don't study, so I've seen it with my own eyes it doesn't work for my second boy


so every time he wants to go I will say no but, the other half will always say it's okay lah let him lah but it doesn't work why the hell do you want to give it to him it doesn't even work, and you know ah freedom ah so to me it's like it's not his time for you to give freedom, so that's why you have to hold and when I say


discipline, he will I have a set of discipline that I will follow, he likes to give in in between, in malay you call it hulur hulur tarik to me it's like nonsense, no no such thing you want to set a certain rule you abide by the rules and you don't and you follow follow through it ah


then that's where you can instil discipline ah these are the things ah that we do argue about, the differences between ya, he will okay he's the type of parent who will preach something but do something else


he will say you must like this you must like that must that then the next thing you turn around he say ah can lah can lah can lah, it's okay lah five minutes lah it's okay so then in the end you can't instil the child will be confused, can or cannot now this one, you know what I mean


this one ah these are the things that we argue for you what are the what are the things that you all will, don't see eye to eye, for parenting


slapping her across the face


right right right, right right right right right right ya ya, but who dominates the thing who dominates the situation parenting


okay to be


right, yes yes he's working, right


ya ya ya, but but for for me parenting wise parent parenting wise uh the the dominant party will be me lah, cause usually I will get my last say cause ultimately after even a good fight with him I will just say you're not you're not even around during PTM


how come you get your say, you know what I mean ah I will tell him that you're not even around during PTM how come is it that you get your say, I am the one who sit down on the chair and get having the teacher telling me that oh he's not doing well because blah blah blah blah it get blown off in my face you know you're not even there


so as in, how come you got you ya so I always win lah I always win but so far, it works like whatever it is you know the the the the parenting that I don't have a set of, children who are or I don't have a I don't have children who are overwhelming uncontrolled you know like