The intview was not bad, but I do disagree with her n some things. And just to clarify I do not hate Alexis or Molly. Thesis just my opinion.Personally I think Molly is giving Alexis very little credit here. Alexis is so smart, and while she has not been previed to her dads love life per se, I think to some extent she would know how he feels about Beckett. The mere fact that he almost tried to take a bullet for her speaks volumes. He has changed and being how close castle and Alexis are, don't you think she would have noticed these details about him. I don't know just my thoughts on it. I disagree that Alexis will just look at Beckett as just another girlfriend. Castle is very protective of Alexis and doesn't bring his sex life home, but having stayed around Beckett for four years without really needing too, says lot, and as well brining her home and getting her involved in his family. He wouldn't do that with just any woman. Bottom line, alexis is not some dumb girl high on drugs to not notice stuff in her dads life. On another note. I've seen a poster, a hot one of becketts hand snaking down castle torso, yeah I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, is that real? I thought photoshoots were next week, and why the same clothes. So I'm guessing either a fake one or last seasons one. But why would abc release an old promo photo now. Hhmm, can someone enlighten me.
The poster wasn't real. It's one fans made up. Which I don't know how cause it looks so real. But maybe ABC will release something similar to that. On the interview I agree with you. It wasn't bad but maybe it will be a little different than Molly says. I personally think it's going to be a little like she said though. Like Im going back and forth if she will see her as another girlfriend or not, like I say she won't, but I think she will be very skeptical of Kate and want to know how she feels for her dad. I think soon or maybe mid season Alexis is going to realize this isn't just temporary, Kate and her dad are serious in this relationship and I think this would freak her out because she will be trying to see if Kate is as serious as he is and what if she's going to be like her mom and Gina? And I secretly think Alexis won't want to get attached to Kate because she doesn't want to deal with the hurt of getting close than Kate leaving, which we know she won't do. And again on the girlfriend issue maybe Alexis will see Kate as another girlfriend because her dad falls in love hard and she just sees his relationships as temporarily because that's all Alexis knows. Her mom was temporary, so was gina, so I think she just assumes all the other women in his life are. I'm just thinking up ways of why Alexis would think it. To a certain point what molly tweeted was right that alexis doesnt watch the show and doesn't see the moments Kate puts herself out there or they share moments but what you said is right, that alexis should know the feelings her dad has prove she's not just another girlfriend. One moment I'm waiting for in season 5 is when Alexis sees she is wrong. That this wasn't temporary and she has to see what's Kate's intentions are. But out of that talk she realizes Kate doesn't just care and love her dad but her and Martha also, and she is left out of her element because she isn't used to people her dad date having relationships with everybody in her family. That's just how I see it. I'm just trying to look at it from both sides and I kinda understand molly a little bit of why Alexis could draw that conclusion. I just hope they don't do the whole Kate is putting my dad in danger storyline again. It kinda got on my nerves last season.
Can someone pretty please post a link to that photo, or at least tell me where to find it?? Fanmade or not, I want to see it! Thanks?
It's on google or tumblr. Just type in Castle season 5 poster. It's in black and white.
Brit, that isn't the poster everyone is going crazy about. I'm talking about the one that Is from season 4 photoshoot. Anyway it's been stated that it is real, it was handed out at comic con at the abc booth it think. The one with the tag line, A line has been crossed....their clothes are the same as the season 4 poster, but it was not released until yesterday.
Oh sorry anon 8:36z didn't hear about that one,
Ok think I found it at www.fanpop.com/ spots/ castle/ images/31453338/castle-line-crossed-fanart.
Interesting interview but nothing we don't already know. I like Molly but she sounds weird when she talks, like something's in her mouth. Hehe. Alexis and her professor??? What??? Come on, that's stupid. Alexis can't be that stupid right. It's weird that Molly talked about that like its a saucy storyline. It's a freaky and disgusting storyline, so I hope Marlowe doesn't do that. I don't think he will, that's a little to disturbing.
I don't think it would be so bad if it were a young, hot professor- remember her violin teacher? That would be better than an old guy.
Hahaha agreed. I thought Molly was being creepy with her comments on the professor. Please never get into writing Molly. I find it odd that Alexis would think Beckett is just another girlfriend. When did Alexis become stupid? I think she is inhaling too many autopsy stuff.
Personally, I wouldn't be worried about her and this "professor."First, it's kinda nasty. I just find teacher/student relationships on TV weird. Second, there's no time for an Alexis side story as deep as a professor. If she got a boyfriend it would be "Okay, she got a boyfriend. Moving on," like it was with Ashley. But a professor? That's breaking all kinds of rules and AWM would eventually have to deal with that. I'd hope we would get more Lanie/Esposito or Ryan/Jenny before we'd get THIS storyline.Third, Alexis is a goody-goody two shoes. Which is refreshing for a teenage TV character. But the girl wouldn't even have a party (S4) without shutting it down. Alexis would NEVER have the guts to date a prof, unless they went seriously OOC. Why does Molly keep pushing for Alexis to be "sassier"? That's not her character at least not from Andrew's perspective. Why is Molly always saying "She really is sassy, we just haven't seen it yet."? Girl, we haven't seen it for 4 seasons. That's not her character. I just hope Andrew doesn't make Alexis go OOC.
Molly has got some downright unpleasant ideas, the college professor thing is just pathetic. No way Alexis will think of Kate is another girlfriend like anyone else, she must be a totally dense girl of she does. Anyway I was never fond of Molly and her interviews, so her comments don't surprise me. It I'm more interested in that poster floating around. Gave me breathing problems when I saw it.
I don't know much about Molly so I won't judge her, but I too feel she needs to research her character a little more. The Alexis I've seen from season 1 till now will definitely know the meaning and depth of catstyle and becketts relationship. She will know it isn't just another woman in his life. She knows what Beckett mean to her father, and the Alexis I know would never even consider a relationship with a teacher.
Same! I have no opinion of Molly really, but she keeps trying to change Alexis in interviews, like she wants her to be cooler or more bad a**. The Alexis from season one to four would never date a professor. And if she hasn't figured out C&B are different, I don't know what to think.
Boring interview, but I have a question. Can someone confirm of that yummy poster of caskett is real?
It is, basically. B/c it was from comic con(this year). And I think Andrew m. Already knew they would get together in season 4 so they made the poster in advance. Last one is my thought...
This chick rubs me the wrong way. Just not a fan. Sorry.
First of all, Molly Quinn looks different. I prefer her straight hair. She is all grown up...I felt her idea about her college professor was strange. Why would alexis even do that.
what photo where can i see it
Go to castle tumblr. It's all over, it's hot.
I've found a poster! Can anyone explaine me this??? http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72r4jlQy91qd6tc2o1_500.png
the poster isn't real...abc hasn't released promo posters yet..
I think it is a real poster because Stana and Nathan must have done several different poses for the one at the beginning of season 4, so that's when this must have been shot. If you look at the photo at the top of this page they're wearing the same clothes.
It is real, as it was from Comic Con. Probably just a teaser in ABC's attempt to satisfy the fans, since they decided there won't be a Castle panel this year.
They give out teaser posters like this at Comic Con every year, or at least the last two years. I have one and it's very real. The use photos we haven't seen from older photoshoots until the new photoshoot has been done. Next year they'll do the same thing with some unreleased photo from this year's shoot. Love the photo they used, and the tagline.
All I can say is, thank god Andrew Marlowe is the creator and writer. Between Molly's thoughts and Nathans moonlighting drama, the show wouldn't have lasted more than a season. Why would Alexis think Kate is just another girlfriend. Even if she has nto seen all the eye sex and moments those two share, has she known her dad to risk his life for just anyone or follow her around for nothing. Stop making Alexis look stupid. And I agree with the others, the Alexis dating her professor is just dumb. Doesn't suit the character at all.
It's an ok interview I guess, but I figured Alexis would behave that way, so not surprised. But I am surprised at her wanting some old dude as her boyfriend. Jeez, disgusting much. And that soooo does not fit her character one bit. I've noticed this in other interviews of Molly before too, she doesn't seem to grasp the details of her character. The Alexis I've watched would certainly and instantly know that with Kate, things will be different, it will not be just another girlfriend. She knows Kate is her fathers partner and best friend. And the old professor, please that in no way describes Alexis. I like Molly, don't love her, but like her enough, but every time I watch her interviews, she just makes Alexis sound like an idiot.
Is it strange that my least favorite characters in castle is actually the castles. In reality I'm not really a fan of Nathan, nor am I a fan of Molly. Weird huh. But true. I know for a fact that once the show is over, I won't know much about Nathan, because I won't be interested. Ps. Spoiler alert. If you're a huge castle fan who feels Nathan doesnt appreciate his current show or his current fans, like me, do not watch his interview with Kevin and bean. He raves about firefly, which is fine given it was a comic con slot, but acts like castle is just a job to him. Yes I'm venting here, because I wish I could walk up to the guy and tell him that where he is today is because of castle, and give him a huge slice of the gratitude pie, cause he is seriously lacking it. I try very hard not to dislike Nathan but he makes it easy with his firefly worship and utter disregard for castle. Sometimes I wish AM found another actor, at least one that appreciates the opportunity. I can't imagine what Marlowe and bowman and miller must feel when Nathan does this. If I were them I would be truly hurt. And to think Nathan is the one who told the Marlowe to stop looking after his casting screening because he said he was perfect for the role. God knows why. I guess he just needed a job because he sure as hell doesn't sound like he really cares. Ok done venting. Remember don't listen to the interview.On a positive note, have you guys seen pennys twitter. Oh she is so becoming one of my favorites. I've always loved Stana and Seamus the most, but now penny is right there with them. She is cute and I like how invested she is in her show, unlike someone we know.
Alexis is one weird chick! That's all I got to say.
Her interviews are always so annoying. I'm a 25 year old guy and I think I understand her character more than she does. Something about Molly just makes me cringe every time I watch her interviews.
Let me start off by saying that Molly is a great actress. However i hardly ever agree with her views about the show. At least she thought that athe caskett relationship would be good this season...she must of changed her mind since plaeyfest though when it seemed like she never wanted them to be together. And i also definetly think there may be some as Molly said "fiesty" Alexis next season. HOWEVER, Alexis has to know that Kate is going to be so much more that just another girlfriend. Yes I know Castle in the past has kept his love life seperate from his daughter but Beckett is totally diffrent, and Alexis and Castle have even had conversations about Kate. I can see how Alexis may not know how strongly Kate feels for her father , but she just has to know that her fathers feelings for Kate are so diffrent then his past girlfriends. And yeah the professor thing a bit random and weird , but i guess it could be a young professor lol..Okay random question totally not related to this spoiler but I have been searching the internet for an answer and cannot find one : does anyone know how big Stanas role will be as Genya Ravan in the movie CGBG?~Brittany
Hey Brittany, I agree with you on Molly. I think her views are bit off too. I find it hard to believe that Alexis would put Beckett in the same category as jacinda was, just like some normal new girlfriend. Alexis is suppose to be smart right? She may not know Kate well but she knows her dad well enough to know that Kate isn't just anyone to him. A four year partnership, tagging along and willingly putting himself in dangerous situations for her, trying to take a bullet for her, wanting to keep her safe by lying and hiding his investigations into her mothers murder, all of which Alexis is very aware of, so how does that make Kate just another girlfriend. The professor thing is just silly in my opinion, and very out of character.As for Stanas role, I think it isn't very big, as they have a slew of actors in it as well. I think it's more of a mix of actors coming together and depicting rock and roll back then. So not a small but not a big role either, as it features a number of rock and rollers. So all actors have a similar amount of screen time. That's what I think.Cheer's from Malaysia.
I'm fine with the "if it was a young and hot prof" but let's look at it in this perspective: Alexis would be 18-19 going into college, and a prof would be at around age 30 (at least). There is an age difference. No, age shouldn't matter (as it should be around the same difference between Rick and Kate -- BUT they are both at different stage in their lives to make it work). But for a teenage girl to go that way...um no.
thank you cheers from Malaysia :) yea I figured that would be how big Stanas role would be since the movie will focus around The Ramones that owned the club and that Stanas character will be a part of the slew who plays there. I hope this movie can be seen in theatres since it has some big names yet it is and indie film and sometimes those aren't in theatres as much . Oh well the movie dosent come out till 2013 anyway so I guess Im gonna have a lot of questions till closer to that time.And your right Mollys view seem off. You totally said what I was trying to get across: even if Alexis dosent know the extent of how much her dad feels for Kate she is a smart girl and just hazs to know that is gonna be diffrent from other blond bimbos like Jacienda.Oh well cannot wait for season 5!! Only bad thing is i will have to go through a couple weeks of school before the premire:(~Brittany
A friend of mine who was at comic con said Nathan was being a drama queen. Will get details and let you know. Hhmm I'm so curious as to what he did or said. So back to the Molly interview. Yeah I don't agree with her. She doesn't have a sense of what her character is and where it's going. The professor boyfriend story was quite simply ridiculous.
I think I know what the drama queeness was from.1) Nathan cried when talking about firefly and how he wants it back...boohoo2) Nathan said that firefly thought him how to act which apparently annoyed some fans because he has previously stated that one life to live taught him how to act. So some fans felt he was being hypocritical and fake.3) he indirectly insulted ABC for giving them a long season for season 2 and 3 because it contained 24 eps and not the regular 22.4) he said towards the end of a season, he doesn't really care how his acting is, he just wants the season over, so he can go on vacation. ( this statement alone shows me he doesn't care about the craft of acting, he just wants popularity and money) I'm a little annoyed and sad but hey if he hates castle so much, then maybe he should just break his contract and leave. No need to drop hints all the time. Safe to say, he is no longer an actor I like. I think to voice things like that to the public shows how disrespectful you are to the creators who have given you this amazing opportunity. Btw, I got this info from a brown coat friend who attended. She said although she loves him the crying was a bit much and a turn off.
Oh so that's what it was about. I've been hearing some negative comments about Nathan from friends here and I didn't know why. Man the guy just can't keep a lid on. It can he...hehehe...oh well, I'm not surprised he has always made it very clear that castle is just a job and he doesn't have the passion for it.
Oh wow, seriously? I'm sorry but I find this hilarious. He cried. Ok yeah Nathan, wars are taking place everywhere, people are dying of hunger, economies are crashing, and you sir are crying over a show you had a decade ago which lasted 10 or 11 eps. Yeah Nathan's got his priorities straight. Just googled and saw that crying thing, enough with the drama.
Well, maybe this explains why it's been awkward between stana and Nathan; b/c stana loves her job and the show -after all she is the queen of all caskett shippers- and she appreciates the creators, as well as ABC. Nathan on the other hand, doesn't seem like it. I mean, in the beginning he did, but it's like something happened and his views changed.... well what can we do?
The only one who's being a drama queen is you. Nathan, Joss, Summer, Alan and others cried because they saw a room of thousands of people who were camping out all night to make it to the panel for a 1 seasoned show canceled 10 years ago, and show its creators and actors their love and respect. Despite constant joking and laughter there wasn't a dry eye in that room and I saw nothing but respect and awe about the whole thing at the con. I understand that you are not a fan and it's hard to see why people are so moved by something you don't appreciate yourself. But I think everybody has this special feeling for one thing or another - a place, a period of time in the past, a job, a circle of friends, - something special. It's not understandable for outsiders, but it has a special meaning for you and yours. And mocking and spitting at other people's special things is something that decent people just don't do. Firefly happened to become a favorite project for many people who worked on it, and it happened to acquire and keep very loyal and passionate audience. This panel was a special moment when they came together after 10 years to celebrate their continuing existence and express their mutual gratitude. You don't see the appeal - fine, move along. But laughing at people crying about something obviously dear to them is heartless and immature.
Anon 10.07, just saw this on the net. Hhmm....ok. Never expected that from Nathan but ok. I'm confused though, why did he say that abc is cutting into his vacation time with more work and by giving more than 22 episodes. It's not like it's overtime without getting paid. He is still paid for the other episodes, so yeah it may cut into the vacation time but come on, you're getting a whole lot more money and you complain. For a guy whose success only came with castle, I think he should be glad that they order more episodes right, shows ow well it's doing. When he doesn't have a job he complains, when he has a job he complains. I mean he gets paid so well and then he gets sent to monte Carlo and London by abc where he vacations with his girlfriend and yet the guy can complain that abc didn't give them a break by adding the extra episode. Wow. The fame has obviously gone to his head.
I don't care about his crying or tearing, but I do think his comment on ABC was not right. He acts like he was tortured, yeah tortured with big fat paychecks. Sow some gratitude man. This dissing of castle is getting lame. Be happy with the show of get out of it. Simple. Bet he won't do that cause he wants the money and the fame, which as much as I enjoyed firefly, he never got. He only got it from castle. I love firefly but I'm living in the resent man, he is stuck in the past.
I think all this Nathan Fillion hating is getting close to being a bit ridiculous. I've seen the clip of Comic Con 2012 of Firefly with the "tears" moment and there doesn't appear in my view to be anything remotely arrogant about it. In terms of his apparent "worshipping" of Firefly, he obviously genuinely feels that being a part of that show, regardless of the fact it lasted 15 episodes plus a spin-off movie, was very dear to him and you can't blame him for that. Just because he likes to talk about Firefly doesn't mean he hates his current show. If you want proof of how much Castle means to him, just watch his speech at the People's Choice awards and listen at how genuinely close he was to tears to have won an award for his work as Richard Castle. Maybe it's just not his style to salivate over his current show as he may feel that if he does so then he might alienate fans in the process (although it seems he has inadvertently done that anyway by not shipping his character and fellow lead character of Castle enough). Stana is clearly a complete opposite and is happy to regularly talk about her character and naturally fans appreciate that stance more than the one Nathan takes. For what it's worth, I've seen enough interviews of Nathan Fillion to know from my point of view that he does indeed care about his character on his current show. He is also known for being quite a facetious person, so I'd imagine that comment about ABC cutting into his vacation time was meant as a joke and nothing more. Take it and the many other facetious things he says with a grain of salt and move on I reckon.
Molly's interview is super boring, the teacher affair is creepy and weird. Hope they don't change Alexis too much. Anon 12.14, I don't think people don't like Nathan because he wasn't a shipper, he just doesn't come across as someone who cares about his show, and as a hardcore castle fan, I have to admit that sucks a little. He seems to care for only his firefly fans, and not the castle ones. I think it's because he enjoys the worship of firefly fans, castle fans don't really do that. Anyway it's his opinion. Haven't seen or read about this comic con tears thing, but the comment about abc as someone stated above, cutting into vacation time, yeah I think that's a it far. Facetious or not, certain things should not be voiced out or it can be taken in the wrong context, like it apparently has now. He does nothing for free, abc is paying for extra episodes, so really its a win win. No need to bring that up in the panel.
Anon 12.14 here again. I'll stand by my original statement, but you do have a point Anon 12.44 AM. Perhaps he should take a bit more care in what he says because just like that things said can be taken out of context. A good example is the comment he made around 2010-11 on a Michael Auseillo interview. What he actually said was along the lines of "it's good to watch a character fail at something and learn from it and become a better person for it", yet I've seen quite a few people referencing this particular comment and only focusing on the first part (up until he said the word fail) and overlooking the rest of his comment.Like I said above it just doesn't appear to be his style to constantly gush over his current character like a lot of people want him to. Having said that I've seen plenty of interviews where he has talked in a positive manner regarding his character Richard Castle and his current show. People who get on these hate bandwagons tend to overlook the good things he says and focus on the bad things he might say (like that point I made in the first paragraph), so are they being any different from what they perceive him to be? I'll leave that question open to debate!
Hi this is anon12.44 again...I see your points too. But personally it's not about gushing about his current show. Truth be told, none of them gush about it, but yes the other cast members do seem to appreciate the show more. He need not gush, but he needs to be more careful with comments. He is a sarcastic guy by nature I think, and not everyone gets his sarcasm or jokes. I think it really boils down to the step child syndrome on some way. Castle fans just don't feel loved or appreciated when it comes to fillion. He recently tweeted about how firefly fans are just a bit better than everyone else. Now that could be a joke, but given Nathan's obsession with firefly, it is also a slap in the face to castle fans. He nevers says anything like that or gives an appreciative nod to castle. It's little things like this that piss fans off. And honestly I don't blame them. What's the harm in showing more gratitude to your current show, thanking your loyal fans. This is what Nathan lacks, and that is where problem stems from. It's like he goes out of his to ensure he doesn't promote castle or talk about it outside of his abc scheduled interviews. For a man who has a lot to be thankful for, he could show it more often. That's all I'm saying. His statement about abc cutting his vacation time was done in bad taste. There are so many actors out there, hell just his firefly co stars that would kill to have a successful series, one that orders more episodes, which means you get paid more. It's a domino effect, if he didn't have this great show he wouldn't have the opportunity to travel around, that vacation time he talks about won't exists. He can afford all those luxuries now because of abc, so to be blunt, quit the complaining Nathan. This is just my opinion of him, no offense to firefly or castle fans out there.
Anons 12.14 and 1.37 here again. You do raise an excellent point Anons 12.44 and 2.05. I can see where you're coming from in regards to the fact he appears to acknowledge fans of Firefly a lot and not really for Castle, which leads to Castle fans crying out stuff like "what about us?". I think it's pretty clear that Castle has progressed into something far bigger and better than Firefly ever was (no disrespect to those who worship Firefly). Somehow that show (Firefly) has attained a cult status of sorts. Maybe that's down to the fact it must have been a popular show at the time that was culled too quickly. I don't think Nathan's completely ignored the fans of Castle, but because of his apparent stance in not wanting to over-promote Castle he has perhaps overcompensated and has ended up alienating the fans of Castle to some extent.When he was doing interviews last season (especially the ones where Stana was involved also), it seemed more like a deliberate ploy by the show's promoters to have the two leads taking opposite viewpoints on whether or not Castle and Beckett should get together now in order to build up the hype and get fans talking about the show more. We know that Nathan has always been a bit coy on the subject of Caskett, but Stana has always been keen for it to happen and naturally the fans side with her. Now that the two characters are together I think we'll see interviews with Nathan from now on where he will be unable to hide behind the touchy "will the fact the two leads are together now signal the beginning of the end of the show?" subject. As much as he appears to be taking his current role as Rick Castle for granted, he still does care enough about it, just like I referenced in my first post (the award speech for his role as Rick), therefore I think we could see him change his tune a bit and start trumpeting for Caskett a bit more, but with Nathan you never know!Despite his antics away from the screen that seems to be getting on the nerves of some people he is still doing a fantastic job on-screen, along with Stana and the rest of the cast and crew. People seem to get nervous about a show that brings its male and female leads together, but with Castle there's clearly a heck of a lot more water to flow under the bridge before the river runs dry. Season 5 should be another great season and will have that extra anticipation hovering over it because Rick and Kate are together now.
Anon 2.05, you said it perfectly. I don't hate him but I like him significantly lesser than idid when the show started.
It's funny you guys are talking about this. Now, I love Nathan as much as the next person, and he's a wonderful actor. The ABC comment kind of ticked me off because here you have him mad about Firefly's cancellation (10 years later, no less) yet he's whining about getting MORE episodes on Castle than other shows. That makes zero sense to me.Another thing I want to say is about the comments many of you said above. About Nathan misses the "worship" of Firefly fans. Now, everyone's heard the Stana/Nathan hate rumors and I don't believe them.But could it be he's jealous of Stana? Fans absolutely WORSHIP her. If you think about it, Castle focuses more on Beckett's backstory and her life where you only see Castle's life now. A few fans even consider Beckett the main character, her story being almost "told" through Castle's eyes.He may miss the worship he used to get that Stana now gets.
Ok maybe it's just me but Nathan tearing seemed fake. He didn't look like he was tearing, maybe he was just pretending. But if he was, kind of weird don't you think. It's not like it's the end of the world. And it's not like he doesn't still hang out with those guys. Maybe he just wanted some drama.
Ok so after watching all this drama that people are buzzing about, I finally get why Nathan is thought to be somewhat ungrateful. Yeah it's very very obvious, he does not really appreciate what he has now.
Me too. Some women in my office can't stand him, and have said that he is a very self absorbed person, always wanting attention. But I didn't get what they meant by that. Now I do. I'm not a huge fan, only starred watching castle last season, but I loved it and got the DVDs to catch up. I never heard of fillion before this, so obviously I don't know about his past shows. But I do agree to the fact that he can be very annoying to watch in.interviews. It's very dissapointing when as a fan you like the character way more than the actor playing it. It's a shame that he is the title character, or not he could just leave and they can bringin someone else. I mean why stay and complain about working hours and the network. These people gave you an opportunity and you throw it back in their faces.
This is the funniest post on here. If they got rid of Nathan, the show is over. HaHa!I am a Beckett girl and can admit this.You people need to get over it already. You don't have to watch the celebs personal lives. They are human like us and have their own likes and dislikes. Some of you probably hate your job or love it. Does that mean people have a right to judge you?I watch plenty of tv shows and never see anything in the media about the stars and guess what? I still love their show.I find these comments a bit creepy, honestly.This fandom still annoys me and is one of the whiniest i've ever been a part of. Some of you are NEVER happy and ALWAYS complain.I feel like a kid when I come here. Ugh.I can never discuss Castle because people alwas get down on the show. You would think it was the worst show ever.Now Stana and Nathan hate each other because of Nathan's love of Firefly. Nathan's jealous of Stana?IT IS ALL IN YOUR HEADS! IT IS YOUR DISCONTENT, NOT THE SHOW'S OR THE ACTORS'. WHAT THE HELL?Do you people hear yourselves or read what you type?Why read a Firefly panel or watch a Firefly interview if you hate when Nathan discusses it? It's like you guys want to be miserable.Just watch the show and stay away from spoilers and interviews and articles.
So true Anon 2.23 PM. It's ironic how people are slagging Nathan for not showing Castle and its fans enough love, yet they also slag him for believing in the Moonlighting Curse. Now there's a massive contradiction if I've ever seen one. If he believes in the Moonlighting Curse (which I don't BTW), then that would mean that he is enjoying his current show and is fearful that getting his and Stana's characters together too soon may be the beginning of the end of the show. According to a lot of the "experts" on here, they think he isn't enjoying his show because he doesn't talk about it unless forced to and is apparently stuck in the past (Firefly). Now that statement is purely and simply wrong. I've seen many interviews with him happily talking about his character. There's also his speech at the People's Choice Awards that comes to mind.This Castle Fandom has proven to be incredibly hard to please. The reaction to the episode called "The Limey" is a good example of this. The cast of Castle warned us at Paley Fest that Castle and Beckett would go through a bad patch with each other before things got really, really good, yet the reaction from some of the fans was quite comical really. Stuff like: "Andrew Marlowe has ruined these two characters and this show" was what was being said after The Limey.A lot of the fan reaction is light-hearted in nature and most comments are made tongue-and-cheek style, but there are some out there that never seem to be happy regardless of what the show's creators do. Even in the magnificent kiss scene from Always I've seen people complaining about the use of "jump cutting" as they felt it ruined the scene for them. The two character's were finally getting together FFS!
Thank you for understanding my frustration. I agree with what you said about The Limey. Season 4 was boring because nothing was happening with Caskett (which was so not true) and before that Josh ruined the show. Now people want just fun and light in season 5 and I guarantee you the first challenge to the ship people will begin dogging Marlowe again because in life nothing dark ever happens and it's all roses and balloons and laughter and physicall pleasure are the only emotions there are in life according to some. Marlowe can't win for losing. I wasn't worried at all by 47 Seconds, The Limey, Headhunter, Undead Again, or Always. I loved those episodes. There's a destination we seek when times are dark and getting to that light at the end of the tunnel builds courage, strength, and character and ours came out stronger in the end.I really love this journey we're on and even in challenging times I feel these characters are learning, growing, and evolving. I don't always agree with the characters, but I do give them the time and patience to figure things out. We see things they don't and we don't always know what they do. It's give and take. Some fans only see what they do wrong and don't give the characters a chance to grow from their mistakes and spend more time complaining and threatening to give the show up, etc. I rather give a show up if I can't find something to enjoy about it, but I guess some rather be miserable than happy.Nothing Nathan has said or done in his interviews has affected how I see the show. Molly, either. I have the right to agree or disagree. He's not Marlowe. She's not, either.Now i'm off to watch more Castle. HaHa! Firefly be damned. I don't even think of Firefly when I watvh Nathan as Richard Castle. I do think of how incrediblly delicious he is to look at and love his chemistry with the lovely Stans Katic. LOL!
Anonymouse 2:52, this is Anon 2:23. I wish I could talk to you somehow about my frustrations with this fandom. Someone finally gets it. This fandom is beyond pleasing. Nothing the show does short of Caskett making kissey faces satisfies them. They don't care about growth and development, which will involve difficult times to overcome in order to evolve.Is it a wonder why Nathan isn't as into the fandom if he's read what is said about Castle and him personally? Everything from his weight to the women he dates is rudely commented on.Btw, he's looking good! To hell with his weight. He's lost some for those of you who can't look at him due to his gaining. Wow. Did I just say that?In this fandom I find myself acting like a kid. I want to find some adults or teens who want to discuss the ups and downs without whining about quitting the show or hating on Marlowe.
Anon 2.52 PM here again. No worries Anon 11.20 PM. I've always wondered since the Season 4 Finale how many of those who threatened to leave the show after the Pandora/Linchpin two-parter (or The Limey) actually made good on their promise and then missed out on that wonderful Season Finale! I don't think Castle is any different from any other TV Show. There will always be that element who will simply just never be happy no matter what the show's creators do. Like I said in my last post, I've seen people complaining about that magnificent scene where Castle and Beckett finally gave into each other's feelings, because the editing style used apparently ruined the scene for them. What's wrong with you people?!! They were finally getting together! Isn't that what you guys always wanted?!!! Who cares about the way they edited the scene?!Trawling through a lot of the comments on this article particularly (and many others), it seems clear to me that there are people out there who take things too far by butting in on the actor's personal lives. There's nothing wrong with wanting to ship the characters of a show, but when the actors playing these characters start getting shipped (in this case called "Stanathan"), then that's taking things too far in my view. That sort of stuff has the potential to make things very awkward between Nathan and Stana in real life, as the moment some plonker with a camera takes a photo of them maybe having a friendly coffee together somewhere the rumour mill can get sent into overdrive as people start thinking that they're more than just friends off the screen. This is probably why they're rarely ever seen together in public so they can avoid these silly rumours that will rage like a massive bushfire if they get seen together.You're right about the story arc that began at 47 Seconds. It was necessary to cause a bit of mayhem between Castle and Beckett as they were stuck in a holding pattern (as referenced by Lanie in The Limey) and that pattern needed to be broken. Andrew Marlowe used Season 4 to smash down as much of that wall around Kate Beckett as possible, in order to bring her to a level where she could have a wonderful relationship with Rick and not be held back by this wall of hers. This is why the case that has defined her life for over a decade will be solved at some point this season, so she can finally move on with her life and commit 100% to a relationship with Rick. I'm really looking forward to seeing how that all plays out, as there's a lot of fun to be had with the two of them dealing with their relationship while handling everything else going on in their lives. If anything this show is proof that you don't need to hold off getting the male and female leads of a show together in order to keep the interest and anticipation up. You can get them together earlier in the show's run and then open up a whole new world to explore, as long as you've got the right mix of actors/writers, and Castle certainly does have that right mix!
Wow. You and I see things in the same way! I could talk to you all day. I so agree with you on everything. I also think Marlowe did a great job of bringing Kate very close to the edge of losing Castle and then realizing what has become more important to her. While we saw Castle regressing in 47 Seconds, we also began to see Kate falling back into what was comfortable for her in The Limey, down to calling Colin Hunt after Castle walked away from her on his way to see Jacinda. How often have we seen them turn to others when they feel like things are not working between them?? It's their escape from dealing with their feelings and the hurt that comes along with it. Many complained it was out of character, but it SOOOO was not. Every thing the two of them did in the 5 episode arc to end S4 was very much them and they realized in the end that they could no longer go back to who they were before they met each other because so much had happened between them to continue this holding pattern.Both made mistakes and for me it doesn't really mattter who started it or who has caused the other more pain, what matters to me is seeing how the two of them resolved it and I feel these two are well on their way to being happy and in love with the one they've always meant to be with. Finally. Like Nathan said there's still going to be complications, but these two will be in it to win it. That will take work like any relationship does with two people invested in it to make the person they love truly happy and committed. I love Caskett! I love Castle & Beckett! Their ups and downs have been fascinating and amazing to watch, even during the bad times.
Anons 2.52 & 12.16 here again.In regards to Anon 12.03 PM, yeah it's quite funny reading people going way overboard with their criticisms. I made the point of saying during the "tough" times last season that I think criticism is fine as long as it's constructive. Sadly I didn't see much that could generally be called constructive criticism. A lot of it was more along the lines of venomous hatred aimed in Andrew Marlowe's direction in particular as people humorously tried to justify that he was letting them down by "deliberately" avoiding getting Castle and Beckett together. Funnily enough those people went oddly quiet after "Always" lol. I did manage to get called "someone who thinks Andrew Marlowe is a god" on at least one occasion. I'm someone who hates negativity with a passion. I'd rather look at the positive side of things, which brings me back to Anon 2.30 PM's comment.I really like what you said about Andrew Marlowe bringing Kate close to the edge of losing Rick, as that is pretty much what literally happened on that rooftop (along with her life)!I watch this show for the other aspects aside from the Castle/Beckett dynamic, but I have to say that that dynamic is one of the best love stories I've ever seen. I think it's amazing how the two of them have both directly and indirectly changed each other for the better through their words and actions. Both of them have shown immense growth over the four seasons. Rick has pretty much "matured" from that playboy persona we first associated him with, a direct result of the influence of Kate on his life. The same goes with Kate. She started off as someone a bit anti-social and obviously still haunted by her mother's death and unsolved murder. Over time and with Rick's heavy influence she has finally come out of hiding and is now ready to go full steam ahead into a relationship with Rick. That means that there's so much to look forward to as they slowly begin to readjust with each other in their new status. I'm not expecting everything to be smooth-sailing, as that would not be realistic. There will be a heap of speed-bumps for them to navigate, but that's the beauty of this show and their relationship. Whenever they've faced tough times together they've always come out stronger on the other side and for that reason I can't wait for Season 5!
so the Nathan subject....I have mixed views. First though Im not gonna give him grief over crying at the panel.... Its obvious that he really loved firefly so I think his feelings for that show are very strong. Im only 21 but i guess its like how people say that in your life you look back to a certian time that was sorta your greatest moment, and you wish you could just go back and re live that time period...seems to be the case with Nathan i guess? I dont know how to say it lol. Lets just say he has an obivous passion for firelfy . We all have certian times in our life that we may tend to talk about bc it was something to be really proud of. Plus he was at comic con for firefly if im not mistaken so we cannot be upset if thats the large majority of what he talks about. The vacation comment- may have been a bit out of taste because like others have said he is paid for the extra episodes. However think about it each episode i believe takes 8 days to film...so thats over 2 weeks over his vacation gone...how would we fill if we got part of our vacation taken from us? Im sure we may not like that either. On the other side though abc did provide vacation for him-monte carlo,london which none of us will probaby get anything like from our job lol!HOWEVER, he could show more enthusasim for Castle. No its not his passion so he cannot be blamed for not loving castle as much as firefly. Yet he never talks about Castle unless hes being asked specificaly about it. I dont follow him on twitter ( i only forllow stana,penny, and tamala) but i do look at his tweets sometimes. I cannot be mad at him for giving alot of love to his firefly fans- i mean it is his account and he can say what he wants. My problem with Nathan isnt his his firefly passion(which by the way i have never seen). It isnt that he belives in the moonlighting curse(which i dont believe in). What bothers me is like i said his lack of appreciation for Castle. When he does talk about Castle when he has to i usually disagree with his comments. But thats not the problem with me. For example take Molly i usually totally disagree with her views on castle but at least she seems happy and enthusiastic to talk about it. Thats all i want from Nathan. Its sad because his acting on Castle is great but its sad to think that he really dosent care for it much. Ive tried to stay positve concerning Nathan but I do have to admit it is hard with how he treats castle the show that I love. I would also think he would really like his role on castle since him and his character have alot in common minus obviously nathans not a father. But both Nathan and Richard Castle how that boyish charm, both love things like comic books,super heros, gadgets and cars. Anyway i could say so much more on the Nathan issue but will shut up. Its fine that he loves firefly so much but a little love, gratitude and enthusiasm for Castle would really be appreciated.~Brittany~ Brittany
I try to like Molly but he mostly makes me cringe now. She's very sweet but doesn't think much about her character.I can kinda see where Nathan is coming from because I'm 16 and I really want to work in film production when I'm older. My dream would be to work on a crime drama but if I was offered a soap opera I'm not going to say no. Nathan is a geek at heart so of course he is going to love Sci-Fi more than crime drama. But I kinda wished people would let Firefly go. I love it but it's been ten years and only one season. You need to let go because it's not coming back. The actors have new jobs and are older. But it kinda feels like a punch in the guts when Nathan goes on about how Firefly was the best show and Mal was the best show and nothing can ever be better. But he never really gives Castle fans credit and only talks about it if asked. I really wished he actually answered that girls question about what he thought when he read Always rather than talking on about holidays and ABC. But he did talk about getting to kiss a hot girl! But I never know with Nathan now. He charming but seems to be sometimes limited when he wants to be and will only do Castle things when forced.
^ whoops meant to say 'she' and 'character' my bad x3
Guys, why are you all so surprised. If you ask me, Nathan gave standard Nathan answers. His answers are always, literally always recycled. And yes the firefly worship will never end, and yes the castle hate will never end for Nathan. He hates his job but wants the fame and money. So he stays. Well tough luck Nathan. Just ignore his interviews. I have never heard Nathan actually talk in a sincere positive manner about castle, and I'm confident I never will. So let's just all appreciate the fact that at least Marlowe and rob bowman got the casting for Stana, Seamus, Jon, tamala , Susan and Molly right. Because in my opinion, Nathan should have let someone else who can enjoy their jobs nd respect their creators and respect their fans and live in the present to be cast at Rick castle. For me it has simply come to a point of if he doesn't like it, then go. Go start firefly again and be happy. Stop deliberately hurting and frustrating castle fans. Nathan needs to take a hard look at himself before he judges others. He says it cost you nothing to say something nice, or to shut up altogether. But he does not practice what he preaches. He takes any opportunity he has to dismiss castle as nothing. I stopped being. Nathan fan over a year ago. He just seems so insincere and ungrateful to me.
So I came here and saw all the very frustrated comments. So Nathan's screwing with castle fans...AGAIN. Relax guys, this what Fillion does. He has done for so long. It's no secret that castle is just a job to him. The sooner we accept that the better off we are. But really it isn't some out of this world theory you know. Nathan loves being worshipped, he said so in not so many words in a number of interviews. He loves comic con because he loves all the attention and love for him in the room, again he said this. For someone who likes that, of course he will love the fandom that worships him which is firefly. Castle fans don't worship Nathan, we like him, we think he is good actor, but no worshipping, so it's natural for him to prefer firefly fans simple because they stroke his ego. It's his personality. So just Leave him be. Let's focus on the fact that filming starts soon.
I remember reading that about why he loves comic con, I think it was last years one, and I was rolling my eyes. Yeah I agree, he gets worship from firefly fans, with them dressing up as his former character, calling him captain, calling him geek god etc. he loves that and castle fans don't do that. I guess with castle, the fan admiration is shared with Stana and Seamus and Jon, so he doesn't feel so special. But with firefly, he gets all that for himself. Just my thoughts. I could be wrong but sure seems like the worship he gets is why he is obsessed with his past. Anyhow it's better to not read his interviews, he just brings you down.
What I have noticed as a huge Castle fan how this fandom's online tone is generally NEGATIVE and I have left message boards discussing the show because of this tone. Last season I filtered throigh many posts due to the negativity and commentd about how FAT Nathan is and I can assure you some idiot has reached out to Nathan via twitter and has made similar comments about how bad the show Castle is due to the fact Caskett aren't together and his weight comments.My point is if as a huge Castle fan I don't respect this fandom's attitude, as an actor of the show if I read these comments, especislly those at its main nessageboard for ABC.COM, I wouldn't be as devoted to the fandom, either.I am usually embarrassed and disappointed by the comments on this site and those at the ABC boards and always pray the actors and Marlowe didn't read a majority of them.Firefly fans don't put the show down or call him fat and oher asinine personal attacks on him. If I were him, I would call those fans the best because they are honestly. They are way more devoted to his talents than this fandom is who ONLY seem to care about the status of the Caskett relationship and hardly anything else.I love this show and ALL the characters do much and find it hard to discuss Ryan & Espo or Lanie or Alexis or Martha or Beckett individually and Castle individually because all these fans care about is when Caskett will sleep together. Their journey was constantly dissed and people called the show and them boring and threatened to give up the show, etc.That is the majority of the tone in this fandom webwide and it's sad. This fandom lacks patience and complain more than discuss the shows ups and down in a respectable manner. It's all Marlowe sucks. Nathan's fat. Beckett's always wrong and doesn't deserve Castle. OMG!I have no problem with Nathan not focusing as much on the fans of this fandom as long as he continues to do the great job he does for me every week. I don't care if he loves FF or its fans more. It's his right.I can't even handle this fandom. It's the worst one i've ever been a part of and I am part of plenty fandoms. Of all these posts less than 10 of them are positive. Mine not included because I get so sick and tired of the total lack of respect for the show, Caskett, Beckett, Marlowe, Nathan, & Molly. Ugh.
"Firefly fans don't put the show down or call him fat and oher asinine personal attacks on him. If I were him, I would call those fans the best because they are honestly. They are way more devoted to his talents than this fandom is who ONLY seem to care about."You do realize that Nathan was actually HOT during Firefly? Like oozing with hotness. I'm 100% sure that if Firefly were still alive today and he has become what we Castle fans seen him went through, they would be complaining as much, if not more because they are, as some people say, more passionate. You can't blame the Castle fans for complaining about his weight. As superficial as it sounds, in Hollywood especially, sex sells. Castle was hot and believable as this bachelor in the beginning of the series. And Nathan fits this character so well. Now? He's just too comfortable in this job and let things go. Castle can now be sold as a family man...to put in a nice way. During season 4, Caskett was sweet, but I can't come to say a hot couple (thank god there is still chemistry tho).
I'm sure the anon was referring to Nathan as he is today with the Firefly fans... 2012. They still worship him to this day and aren't so whiny like the Castle fans.You guys are acting like he owes you his life. HaHa! It's funny to me how people don't even want to talk bout the show but cry over Nathan preferring Firefly. Also, I would phuck Fillion from here to Timbuktu. Weight gain and all. He's still HOT to me. Not all men are meant to age as well as Tom Cruise or Will Smith, but that doesn't mean they can't be sexy or hot because they have a little thickness to them. I think husky men are very sexy! Yum!Nathan was a little too skinny in Firefly. I prefer him as he is now.
http://mysteryyoullneversolve.tumblr.com/post/27187103127/nerd-hq-live-mystery-panel-clip-of-nathan-fillionI read ALL your comments, and now I understand why you wrote what you wrote. I am glad you guys spoke of this.The_Unicorn22
I decided after seeing some of Nathan's first comments about Castle season 5 that I wouldn't watch any of his interviews this year, and yet I made the mistake of watching the clip mentioned by everyone above. I'm not surprised that he said what he did, but that doesn't make my disappointment any less. It's sad that this is what we have come to expect from Nathan. The girl obviously wanted to know how he felt about what it means for his and Stana's characters to take this big leap- hell, it's what I want to know, too. We don't care about your vacation time, Nathan. How many of us in the real world get paid millions of dollars 9 months out of the year and then get a 3 month vacation? I can hardly feel sorry for the guy. I understand that Firefly was important to him, but this utter lack of respect for Castle- for his costars, the production crew, and ABC itself- has got to stop. I know he's a sarcastic guy, but it's often difficult to tell whether he's joking or whether he's being genuine. I'm a huge Caskett shipper and Castle fan, and frankly, it's sad to see that one of it's leads had so little interest in the show.
I've watched the clip http://mysteryyoullneversolve.tumblr.com/post/27187103127/nerd-hq-live-mystery-panel-clip-of-nathan-fillionand if you not see its only sarcasm then you are blind.
It's not just sarcasm. It's true that Nathan is a sarcastic guy and jokes around a lot, but there comes a point where those comments turn into something real. Nathan has crossed that line too many times, and fans are taking more notice of it because his comments are turning ever more snide and even rude at times. I don't begrudge Nathan the Firefly worship, but I do wish he'd show more love for his current show, too. He has this uncaring air about him when he talks about Castle, and is often quite disrespectful to his fans, costars, and ABC itself. It's almost as if he doesn't have the filter between his brain and his mouth that most adults develop over time. That comment about his vacation time getting cut? Yeah, that was genuine, and if you can't see that, then you're blind.
I can't believe people got bent out of shape about his comments about his vacation time being cut into. I also didn't see much stated about how he stated success is good and it's good to have extra episodes and not being canceled. It doesn't sound to me like he hates working on Castle or doesn't care about his acting, but was ready to go on vacation and had to do another episode. Nathan was being truthful and I imagine he would be exhausted after working 10 months straight of long hours and ready to go on vacation. Many people in the world are the SAME way about their vacation time.He's usually sarcastic and I saw him poking fun at ABC for cutting into his vacation time, which he seriously was ready for, and also being grateful for the extra episode and not being canceled. I wasn't bothered at all about this. He's not the only person that feels that way about vacation time. I am ready for mine and it's still 2 months away!!! HaHa!Btw, Stana once said in an interview how much she loved her family at Castle, but once they are done shooting for the season she's ready to travel and spend time with her own family and even intimate how she talks to her Casle family when she's done with shooting for the season! HaHa!I am so not upset by this interview with Nathan. I think some fans are way too sensitive and looing for something they don't have to from the stars. Nothing they say outside of Castle affects how I watch them on tv. I disagree with Charlie Sheen most of the time, yet will still watch him on tv. The dude can be hilarious. Oh, well.Is It September yet??!! Dying for more Castle!
Ok I totally get all the frustrations, but tis is Nathan fillion we are talking about...he has always made it a point to put firefly on a pedestal and show very little enthusiasm or none at all for castle. Frankly it doesn't bother me anymore. I have accepted that Nathan will always treat castle and it's fans and anything castle related as just the step child. But I'm fine with that, because whilst he cant appreciate his own show, his amazing co stars do and I truly respect them for it. Molly's intview was disturbing to say the least. Professor? That's a little over the top don't you think. Alexis would never do something that dumb. It's official Molly and Nathan give the worst interviews. Hehe. One is too sarcastic and self absorbed, and another is just irritating to watch. There I said it, so sue me.
What's with Nathan tearing. God, I'm sorry but that really seems OTT for me. He acts like he doesn't see these guys anymore. Isn't he like with them all the time. I like Nathan but crying over a show that ended 10 years ago, is silly.
Molly does not know her character.Alexis has always been the most focused of the Castle family.She had noticed the father's interest by Beckett since the first season.But it was the 4x1 she tells her father that knows exactly what he feels for Beckett, but not explicitly. Alexis: She makes you happy? (The same for me = you love her?)Castle (makes a face like, you know I love her?)Castle :: Yes, she does. (The same for me: Yes, I love her)Alexis: Is it enough(The same for me: even if she does not match?)Castle: It is enough for now. (The same for me: yes)Sorry , my englishe is not good....
Your English is great. I Also think molly gets some things wrong on her character sometimes. And I think she was just teasing about the professor. At least I hope she was. I think that storyline would be overrated, extremely creepy, and out of character. If we want to see Rick get flustered at who she dates, bring a guy in with a motorcycle or something. I still however think Alexis might see Kate as another girlfriend like Molly said. Hear me out. I think Alexis knows how her dad feels about Kate and that Kate is different, but she is so used to his relationships not lasting that I think she just figures that their relationship won't be forever. But I do think when she starts to see and realize that they are serious and that it is going strong, she will freak out and try to see what this means and where Kate stands as feelings for her dad. This is just my opinion and I agree with yours.
so I just watched a Nathan interview with Aussielo and it wasnt too bad. Well other than the first question Aussielo asked him was about Castle and he totally just started talking about Firefly....which was irritating. But once he started talking about Castle it was okay. Aussielo asked him about the moonlighting curse and Nathan said although he has always believed in it that the writers of Castle were clever to keep the relationship and not just a one time thing as well as to have the relationship be a new beginning not a ending...so maybe hes coming around. When asked about the vice president and senator being involved he said that maybe it could lead to Castles father sometime...however it wasnt clear if this was just Nathans ideas or what is actually going to happen. Just thought I would share this news ...like I said this interview was decent except Nathan totally ignoring what Aussielo asked him in the beginning.~Brittany
Actually Ausiello stated before we get into Castle and then asked him about Firefly. I think you need to rewatch the interview.
my mistake ! Thank you for telling me :)~ Brittany
I agree with pretty much everyone above that Molly does not know her character at all. I think a lot of us realized that while watching Paley Fest. She seemed off, and I thought it might be a one- time thing, but she continues to show her pure arrogance in interviews like these. It's like she's been taking notes from Nathan, or something. She, of all people, should know Alexis inside and out, and yet she doesn't get it. Molly should look toward Stana for inspiration, because she truly knows her character- remember Beckett likes strawberry shakes and the color purple? Those are the kind of little things we fans like to hear about. Stana is smart in that way, because it actually humanizes Beckett a little more to reveal those trivial details about her life. It's the kind of thing that only an actor can bring to the character because it's too trivial to put in the script and waste valuable screen time, but Stana makes it work.In short, Stana uses her interviews to add layers to Beckett, and gives insight on the thoughts and actions of her character. Molly wants Alexis to go out with an old man, and Nathan complains about his vacation being cut short.
Agreed. Molly should really get to know her character because after 4 years, it seems that she is still daft. Excellent point about Stana at paley. That little comment on strawberry shakes and the colour purple was so simple, innocent and cute. We get to imagine her pre coffee days, and it makes her so relatable and fun. She knows when to add real intellectual depth to her character and she knows when to add the small things here and there. I remember right after paley, many fans tweeted that the first thing they thought of in a fast food joint was strawberry shakes and how Beckett loves them. Many tweeted pics of them holding or drinking strawberry shakes. And in 47 seconds, needless to say we were left with hurt and angst, but the silver lining lots of fans commented on was that Beckett was wearing purple, and it made me smile. It's the little things but till today, castle fans remember that Beckett loves strawberry shakes and the colour purple. Yes I agree, Stana seems to give lots of thought into her character and adds layers for the benefit of us viewers. My mom always says this about castle interviews. Stana= smart interviewNathan = stupid interviewMolly = idiotic interviewI always laugh at her, but truth be told she has a point.The crying thing didn't bother me but the comment about ABC cutting is vacation time was childlike and immature. I mean the man is making millions, has a steady job, gets to travel, is actually known out of the united states, all because of ABC. So yeah, the lack of appreciation is appalling. Others just at that panel with him, would kill for that opportunity.
I gotta give respect to Stana. She always seem so thorough about getting to know and knowing her character. Great example is CGBG. Even if we don't know how big of an involvement she is with the project, she still takes it seriously enough and go out and research her character. She actually met with the real Ms. Gavan.
In regard to the Nathan hating, I wouldn't even call myself "a fan" of his but I think people are making a mountain out of a mole hill here. The tearing up is completly justified and I don't think he did it with any sort of ulterior motive such as trying to convey to Castle fans that he doesn't give a s@#t about them, etc. As someone here pointed out, Firefly meant and still means a lot to him, his getting emotional over it is absolutely understandable. Have you not seen the F.R.I.E.N.D.S cast whenever anyone brings up their finale in an interview?! They get all choked and can barely even talk about it. I would also really like to point out that he does express his gratitude for Castle. Not long ago he said in regards to filming the show that, "Even on my worst day, it's still a good day." And he very often jokes that he knows how lucky he is to be on a popular show since he could still be "freezing his ass off in Canada". I looooovvveeee Castle but I will admit, it's a guilty pleasure. I do adore Stana, and Seamus just seems like the loveliest person alive but I wouldn't consider myself part of the fandom. Look, in the past his whole standpoint on the 'Moonlighting Curse' has made me roll my eyes but he's now openly admitted he doesn't have that opinion anymore (whether or not he's just saying it to save face, who cares?) I can totally understand why die-hard members of the fandom would find certain things he does and says annoying but there's no need to make assumptions or jump to the conclusion that he hates his job. His comment about ep 23 cutting in to his vacation time, that was directed at ABC. I agree with those who say it was in bad taste, I think so too. Honestly though, actors being annoyed with network decisions has been happening for decades. Just because he made a negative comment, that doesn't negate every positive one he's ever made.
(anon 12:48, again) *choked up.
I would think he gets paid the most out of the cast, and getting paid for an extra few episodes over the years shouldn't be his worries. Since, you know, there are struggling actors out there looking for jobs... Having a good relationship with the network isn't a bad thing either (when they are offering to pay you more).
Ok this may sound a little rude, but seriously Molly is a dimwit. Her character analysis is the worst I've seen. She honestly has no idea what Alexis is like, or she is high on something and sprouting out nonsense. Nathan tearing did not peeve me, Nathan gushing about firefly did not peeve me, what peeved me was his very insensitive comment about the ABC network cutting in on his vacation time. Without this show, he wouldn't even be on that vacation, spending his millions, so get off your high horse Nathan. You don't work for free, so of ABC orders more, you get paid more. Wow, that must be tough!!!! What peeved me is that he openly admitted to not caring about his acting and his work which indirectly shows how he doesn't care about what the fans get. If you respect your fans, you would put in your best effort to reward their loyalty. But Nathan admitted that he doesn't care about the quality of his acting, he just wants to go on vacation. That really ticked me. God, he is super annoying at times. And I think it was insensitive to make such a comment in a room with other actors who do not have the success he has yet. If I were there, I would have rolled my eyes, like stop complaining, you got a great deal man, not all of us have that or are even close to getting that. Of course it's natural to want to have your full time off, but expressing that in public is just not right.
Molly is very good at making fans cringe! Is that some kind of talent of hers. Oh and Molly is also very good at coming up with crappy storylines. That's all.
she makes me cringe too, have you seen that picture at some party in comic con, she's clinging to nathan, hands on his chest all the while creepily looking. *shudder*it's on tumblr if people wanna look.
anon 7.10, i did, and my dad looked at that picture and said molly has some real daddy issues. it was a creepy photo. im starting to think that she really does like older men, given her picture and her comment on the professor. strange girl. i know people love molly, but she has always been a little weird to me,dont hate me please.
Ok so I just saw the interview you guys are talking about. Here's my take. I will forgive the tearing up part because it's the 10 year reunion and those things can get emotional. Any other time though, I would think its ridiculous. But I do agree with those saying that he should not have made the comment about abc. He is enjoying all the luxuries now because he has this job. Not to reign on anyone's parade, but firefly and his soap days never did afford him those luxuries. So he needs to show more respect to his current show and it's network. If he didn't have this hit show, I'm sure he will be singing a different tune and wanting any job and working 30 episodes if he had to. But he has this and he takes it for granted. That's what I don't like about this guy.
Wow a whole lot of whining about Nathan. Keep in mind the comic con panel was for FIREFLY, not Castle. He can talk about Firefly all he wants there and is under no obligation to talk about Castle. Remember when last year someone at the Castle panel asked a Firefly question everyone here freaked LOL but now it's like 'not enough Castle at the Firefly panel ahh!' Seriously get over it. Firefly is a cult fave that was absolutely amazing regardless of it's length. Joss Whedon is an absolute genius, and creates fantastic stuff. Nathan has every right in the world to like Mal over Castle if that is his opinion. Some here act as if Castle is a television phenomenon and Nathan is committing blasphemy by not loving his character to the utmost. Geez, let him like what he likes. Truth is, Castle is just another light procedural drama. What sets Castle apart from other procedurals really is this amazing love story. I understand you may feel that Castle is the best thing to ever happen to Nathan, but evidently he feels different. Doesn't mean he's arrogant, wants worshipping or any of the other idiotic things being thrown at him simply because he likes Firefly more. Just get over it.
Thank you. I still am a Nathan/Castle fan who has never watched Firefly, but it's his right and opinion to prefer one over the other. Perhaps this fandom who gets down on him for everything from his weight to the women he dates, whom the CASTLE fans stalked online and led to the twitter debacle, and the constant disrespect shown for Marlowe and Castle, should really look at why Nathan prefers FF fans over Castle.
Actually the panel where he said all this was not firefly. It was the nerd HQ panel, so castle questions are expected. Nothing about castle and no question about castle was asked during the firefly panel. Just thought I should correct you.
Yes, it was a panel where we could ask all kind of questions, nothing related to firefly. The problem is not he loves firefly more than castle, it's his inability to answer a castle related question, he always hands up being clumsy and say the wrong things, like how he couldn't wait to go on vacation when asked what he thought when he saw the script for always, he could have muster some answer, it was after all a special final for the show, stepping ground in the storyline. SO it's annoying, that he always repeat the same P.R crap in every official castle interviews, in this panel you could see his true self.
wow a lot of crap slinging around here. I think that Stana is more grateful for her role, because it's one of her first major roles that she has had.
..so that's okay to belittle Castle in Nathan's part because Firefly was his career launching pad?
Nathons true love is firefly.. Lets face it he landed castle because he needed a job. he is hoping that they will revive firefly. So every chance he gets he will push firefly.I bet that if they did bring back the fly he would drop castle like a hot potato. I guess you can tell Im a real fan of Nathons. I have always felt that Marlowe could have done better.
Jesus Christ Almighty! It's the second time I come here in two weeks for CASTLE SPOILERS, and both times I end up with a thread bashing Nathan Fillion for his Firefly love and supposed "arrogance". I'm starting to feel this fandom (or this site's audience) is made up of immature and, sorry, dimwitted kids. The guy (and his other co-stars) cried at the ComicCon panel for his long canceled show which is still loved by millions (yes, it's not Star Wars franchise, but it's still millions). Let's make fun of him! He is obviously faking because he wants to be the center of attention! He is dumb for crying because his show was canceled! and other crap.I still haven't watched Firefly, but I was getting choked up myself watching this clip on Youtube. It was obvious to me that people in that room love their canceled show and each other, and it moved me too. It just made me respect them and want to watch Firefly ASAP to learn what's it all about. Laughing at these people's feelings means you haven't yet experienced love and loss however ridiculous it may sound.Now to the comment about vacations. First, I follow Terry Miller on Twitter and remember her saying essentially the same thing when this decision about reducing the number of episodes was made. She said it is good because otherwise cast and crew don't have enough time for rest, and they need it badly. But of course nobody was bashing her because her name is not Nathan Fillion. Stana also said similar things, how she can't wait to go to other countries and do her thing as soon as the filming is done. But, read above.Second, I am actually afraid of this fandom's almost nonexistent sense of humor - which is odd considering that Castle is primarily known for its humorous touch. Do you know the word "self-deprecating"? Do you seriously consider arrogant the actor who won't wax poetic about his acting choices in his acclaimed (!) performance, but only state that he didn't think much, just wanted to go on vacation? Do you really not see what he was going for?Now, I understand that you might be disappointed to not get a full answer or do not care about the wording, but to think that the dude was serious is just... not very bright of you. Did you like his performance? Did he sell Castle's feelings to you? If yes, then his work is done. To get angry about his "not thinking it through, only waiting to go on vacation" BECAUSE HE SAID SO is, sorry, pretty dumb. And to call him "arrogant" and "ungrateful" after that is even dumber. You're just turning it all upside down. He also constantly says in interviews that he's not very smart, humiliates himself on dates and all his creative ideas are crap, and what, you believe this too? Well, I guess you do. And probably still think it's arrogance. Jees, I don't even know why I bother.OK, it got much longer that I expected but I just wanted to add this: for a year and a half of watching Castle I came to know Nathan Fillion (whom I didn't know previously) as a self-deprecating, smart, charming, seemingly very kind-hearted man who is (surprise!) regarded as such by his past and present colleagues and is talked about with great respect in the media. Of course my spidey senses might be failing me, and of course all these people who go out of their way to praise him might be faking it. It might all be one giant cover-up, and only a couple hundreds of butt-hurt Castle fans know the truth. Stranger things happened. What I know though is, as some other poster said, you'd be better off not watching clips of Firefly panels and Nathan Fillion's interviews if you despise him so much. Craving and trying to recreate feelings of hate and misery is not healthy. You might get yourself an early stroke, before you acquire brains, a sense of humor and learn to enjoy your life and let others enjoy theirs.
I have to say I agree with everything you say! I think people often overlook things. For example, the comment by Nathan about ABC cutting into his vacation time. The cast and crew of this show work incredibly long hours up to eight months a year to bring us this show and it's understandable that they get burnt out towards the end of each season. Also, some of them have other projects on the go that they have to incorporate into their lives. I don't think these haters have taken that into consideration when having a bleat about Nathan being arrogant (wrong on so many levels) for making a comment about his vacation time being cut into.The comments about him "faking" tears at the Firefly panel at Comic Con by a lot of people are quite frankly, cynical. There seems to be a stance taken by people that Castle is a greater show than Firefly ever was and so therefore Nathan should be salivating over Castle and its fans rather than Firefly and its fans. Regardless of the fact that Firefly only lasted 15 episodes (plus the spin-off movie Serenity) it is a time in Nathan's life that he obviously holds very dear to himself and there is nothing wrong with that. Those who say that he doesn't apparently care about his current show and its fans are short-sighted I'm afraid.That same cynical attitude is what I saw a lot during Season 4 (especially on this site). People are welcome to voice their concerns but I lost count of how many people confidently predicted that Andrew Marlowe was going to keep on dragging things out for at least another season and ignore the fans' pleas to get Castle and Beckett together now. Funnily enough those people went oddly quiet after "Always". I guess they were eating humble pie or something!
I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. EVERYTHING. That is all. I just can't engage into this silly debate; like you already said "Why even bother." There will always be people out there who will never ever be satisfied, no matter which way the show / the actors / the creator turn. I am much happier in leaning back, watch the show and enjoy the incredible ride Andrew Marlowe & Co. have taken us on in the last 4 years (and ongoing). Thank you all.
Hey, 11:59, great post, you make a lot of valid points there! The one that always strikes me as the oddest is that Nathan always kinda downplays his good qualities and plays up his supposed not so good qualities and how many people are ready to run with it as the God's truth! I mean he always says how he is not smart or brave or cool, that he's selfish and loves attention and so on. He says it in this funny lighthearted manner, like playing Captain Hammer, how he is the greatest ever, and then adds something funny to show how he really isn't. And some people in our fandom take it at face value it seems, like as if he really is that unpleasant arrogant person and just ignore how he puts himself down after the pun. It's mind boggling to me, how can they really not see when he is joking around, and that a person he pretends to be (in jest) would have never actually admitted it. Gosh, I feel like I'm explaining basic hygiene to kindergartens. Just goes to show how many dumb people there are in the world, sorry people who think so, but you really need to step up your game!
okay so i read my previous post on Nathan and truly said what I feel the good and the bad but I have to agree that we have been quite tough on Nathan. He has a right to cry.... How can we judge him for crying? Im a woman and think its great that a man can feel comfortable crying and that it showed Nathans soft side.the thing about the vacation comment...yeah I still think he should of answered the girls question about Always yet hes just like us and two extra episodes(although i would love ten extra episodes lol) is over two weeks of work for the cast.I think we could all find things about members of the cast we dont like. For example I am a totally Stanatic and adore Stana but there was once something she said in an intetview that I politicaly disagreed with yet I still love Stana! Yes I still wish that Nathan would give a little more lovin to Castle but firefly gave him his initial fame whereas for thee rest of the cast this is the first major thing they are known for. I cannot wait for season 5 and Nathan as well as the rest of the cast are all amazing actors and give us the best show ever with an amazing love story. We all have the right to our opinions and can even disagree, but lets not become a hateful fandom to this wonderful show!~Brittany
can't agree more anon 11:59 AM. I am not even a fan of Nathans, only seen him in Castle and that's it. same with Stana.I only care about Castle LOL but I too think it's ridiculous, some people in our fandom always hating on Nathan and trying to find faults. It's annoying give the guy a break already, youre just torturingg yourself with this hate and give the fandom a bad name. I dont care what he loves best,it's his life and he knows more than me about it wnyway LOL. But I guess some folks just have a vendetta, I hear just now Jon twitted someth about not seeing Nathan for their photoshoot and some people immediatelyy started sending Nathan hate tweets how he can ignore his cast members and not go to photoshoot LOL..... that's just crazy, you all Nathan haters need to relax and start worrying about your own lives LOLsame with Stana haters if there are those LOL
wow thats sad . Jon tweeted saying he missed Nathan and people thought Nathan didnt go to the shoot? Obviuously they didnt read jons whole tweet cause he said he didnt see Nathan because their SCHEDULE wasnt at the same time. Like I said Im not a huge Nathan Fillion fan but thats just awful that Castle fans would do that. I saw Jons tweets today about the photoshoot and saying how excited he was to start working with the cast and people twist this one tweet about Nathan. ~Brittany
yeah I hear you, I am not any kind of personal fan of any actor on Castle but I think they all seem like decent people and don't deserve any hate. man I'm just so tired of it in our fandom. every discussion turns into fans of Stana bashing Nathan and vice vers (I havent seen much od Stana bashin thou LOL) it's what gives fandom a bad name and all this constant hate tweets to nathan dont help LOL if folks think he's not so in love with Castle fans maybe that's why LOL He just thinks we re a bunch of crazies spamming his girlfriend and him with hate on any ocasion LOL
Agreed britany. I think it's just because some fans were already annoyed with the comic con debacle, so it went on from there. I don't follow Nathan so I don't know about those crazy tweets but I do follow Stana and during last season wrap party, a picture of Stanas boyfriend was all around, and Stana and her boyfriend were getting some hate tweets etc. poor girl. Apparently fans were pissed that the guy whom they thought was her brother actually turned out to be her boyfriend. The hate tweets are bad, really bad, it's their personal life, not for us to judge. Btw, her boyfriend, kris I think, is totally hot! Haha...and I think they've like been together for like 7 years. Good for her.With regards to Nathan's crying issue, I guess it was a reunion so it's not so bad. But maybe he should have been more careful with his comment about ABC, I think that's what riled fans up a lot, because he sort of implied that he doesn't care much about the show and the quality of his acting, and just wants to go on vacation. I know Nathan often talks nonsense and jokes so it didn't bother me but I can see how hardcore fans could have taken that out of context. Well mistake made, let's all just move on and be totally excited that filming starts today. Totally excited from Malaysia!!!
do ya know ehre i can see a picture of the wrap party with Stanas boyfriend ? I would love to see what he looks like too!~Brittany
Brittany, the picture circulating was one where penny and Stanas boyfriend were going in for a hug. It was posted by Marta very, the editor of castle. But you can only see his back. However, if you look at the Elton johns party Stana attended, he is there in a picture in the background. We I think they've been together for long is because, Stana has some old pics with him too, like before castle, and even in season 1 of castle. Even at the Rome film festival, he was with her when she was greeting fans. He is usually very quiet and in the background. But it's always the same guy in these events. And she mentioned like 2 years ago that she has a gentleman in her life. She never proclaimed that he was her brother but people assumed it was because she also never talked about having a boyfriend. But the most recent one with penny was confirmation that he is in fact her boyfriend. And he seemed comfortable with her co stars so he can't be someone new. Im not sure if you can get many pics, but try typing Stana katics boyfriend and see what you get. He is tall, with a beard and very European looking. Some pics he has long hair. Or tied in a ponytail.
thank you so much! yah...okay then ya ive seen him before. I saw the film festival one but it was super blurry. And i just googled the wrap party one lol. Thats the only picture I could find as well. It makes me smile that he has long(er) hair. If that really is her boyfriend and not her brother then good for her... deserves an amazing man . Its sad that people would tweet her hate tweets ...how could you hate Stana???? Thats awful. The only thing about Stana that I dont like is that everytime that I look at her I get a bit jealous cause I wish I was that gorgeous lol!!! Oh and cheers from Malaysia thank you for also explaining why people think shes been with him for 7 years:)~Brittany
No problem Brittany, I believe he also took part in the cycling marathon in season 1. Stana and Seamus took part for the cycling charity event by the children's hospital I think, and in the group photo with Stana, Seamus, Marlowe and Terri miller, with a few others, he is there too. There are some really old pics of her hiking too, and again he is there. All these pics sort of resurfaced when the whole wrap party picture came out. So that's when I saw it and realized that he has been in her life for a long time. Well he must be a good guy and treats her right for her to stay with him for so long. I wish them the best.
thanks again...I cannot find the old pictures of him then but oh well:( yah he must be really good to her cause Stana seems to be such a romantic and believer in true love!-Brittany
molly tweeted she received the script for 5x01 yesterday so this interview is just molly's whishfull thinking. thank god.