Then from there, Remus spoke of how the Dark Lord had heard "rumors" about how someone had some mysterious power to defeat him and acted upon it, by targeting the family after Harry's parents were betrayed by the man he called Wormtail. Remus and the others knew of the prophecy because Dumbledore told them about it, but he had caught the look from Dumbledore which said do not mention the prophecy yet. Both teens held skeptical looks about it, but Remus continued, saying that they had arrived too late. The house was in ruins, and for some reason, the Dark Lord was nothing but a pile of ash and he was found in his damaged crib with the scar that he (Harry) still bore on his forehead today.